Woman Blinds Herself With Drain Cleaner - PART 3
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It's funny because Dr.Phil is totally on her side and Dr.Travis is like how can you protect someone like this
Dr Phil is a clinical psychologist and he understands mental illness. Dr Travis and the other female doctor are not trained in mental illness, thus, they don't understand abnormal human behaviours, this is the stigma of having a mental illness.
DeepBlueMonday why specifically female doctors that's just out right wrong male doctors it could be trained the same way if not they are
Madeline George The female doctors are medical professionals, Dr. Phil is a clinical psychologist. They are trained in completely different areas. Reading comprehension is your friend.
did you watch the video or just make assumptions ....going with the last one
why didn't they get a psychiatrists opinion on this
The person who ‘helped’ her 100% sounds like he just wanted to hurt someone
You could well be right. It's outrageous that he is still practicing psychology. His license should be pulled.
I personally don't believe she had a doctor help her. I think she is using that to make her decision seem valid.
@@GrrlonFire76 she claims they interacted online. Couldn’t that be verified?
I don't believe anyone helped her she is making it up
That guy was a psychopath
She literally just sat there with her mouth open the entire time while everybody else talked about her. I don't know that blindness is her biggest problem
That is the problem, if you undergo of a transtorn or sickness you defend yourself. In this case, she listens anymore. She is not deaf or mute to defend herself from the arguments against her, that makes me doubt of her transtorn. At least, personally I would defend myself saying whatevee I can to argue about my decision to do it. Not only, I feel better or it's what makes me feel fine with myself.
the woman isnt deaf. she's right there. talk to her.
EXACTLYYYY it's her body but this is extremely misunderstood- I'm not saying go blind yourself but I'm not saying don't do what you want, this is so misunderstood but It took me soooo long to somewhat get an idea of how Jewel's feeling- it's not right but it's not wrong for someone to do as they please either.
with English? don't know if you're implying that Deaf people can read lips, but most cant.
Megan Angell well true but it’s out of respect. You want to be talked to and from there they can figure out a a way to talk back or let you know if another method should be used.
Essence Elise yes look at the Deaf person while speaking to them. My point wasn’t regarding the woman who is blind. It is that she used an inappropriate comparison. Hey the blind woman isn’t Deaf, speak to her. I guess indirectly saying that if she were Deaf, they wouldn’t directly speak to the Deaf perso
TopangaC. So true, they treat her like an invisible person and as if she were an experimental mouse. Have some more respect I say.
I can understand that this lady wants to be blind. But drain cleaner in her eyes to ruin her sight????? My daughter was born blind in one of her eyes and I would give my left arm, and I am left handed to have her see again. This lady could have donated the eyes or parts of them to help someone like my lovely daughter, NO, I'd give my left eye to have my daughter see again. This was reckless by her and her doctor. He could have sent her to an eye doctor to have her eyes transplanted to someone like my daughter or someone in a terrible accident. I feel like the lady doctor on this video. My hands are shaking as I write this. I believe this is a travesty to the blind community. I have to stop writing this because I'm afraid to say something I'll regret. God bless. If anyone is thinking of doing something like this, please at least give your "disability" to someone who could use it, don't waste that opportunity to help someone fix the disability you wish to have. With love.....
I really hope your daughter is okay. I never ever reply to youtube comments, but your's got to me. I agree with you, ant it is very unfair.
I have hope in medicine and science, so I hope there will be an answer for you daughter, and, people like you and your baby are the reason people like me are organ donors, without giving a second thought. I've always told my parents and sister, that if something happened to me, I would so much rather be helpful to others. Much love.
+Jody Pettit I don't know how you think you can "understand" that this sick woman wants to be blind, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Dear Jody, you should never be fearful of voicing what you really want to say. Who knows? Maybe, your words could change the thinking of an ignorant society. I'm so sorry about your daughter. I hope and pray that some day medical advancements can give your daughter sight. Bless her!
However, do not give this crazy woman any credence. She wasted a gift. There has been much research done on her story. Dr. Phil was being too kind to her as far as her claim that her psychologist aided her in blinding herself. The alleged psychologist was PROVEN to have NEVER met this woman or to have treated her. She is insane. She pulled his name from a phone book.
Even though you think that she should have donated her eyes or parts of her eyes to other people, we do not live in a society that that takes advantage of insane people. We never should!!
Your hands are shaking because you are a normal person. You cannot imagine why anyone would ever do this to herself, even though, you try to be sympathetic to her obvious mental disorder. The greatest thing you can do for someone like Jewel is to pray that the state mental health hospitals are re-opened so that people like Jewel cannot harm themselves or others around them.
+maggie bridget Dr. Phil specifically stated he was playing devil's advocate. Probably so not to offend the woman who was sitting right next to him. I'm not agreeing with either side but you seem to be awful angry for something that does not affect your life.
Savannah Ash On what criteria are you basing your "expert" opinion of me on? Here's an idea. You are completely devoid of commonsense.
maggie bridget Says the person who thinks it's a good idea to lock up people who are ill. And I state that you're getting overly mad about this considering how you're reposting the same garbage on just about everyones comment like anyone gives a shit about your archaic opinion.
I truly hope this woman is happy with her decision cause what she did is not reversible. I hope that she is honest with herself when she says she doesnt regret. Truly sad. I will never understand what her disorder is like. But she is not a victim in my eyes.
Zoraya Seeram exactly. She freed herself from whatever force she felt she was held in. Quite the odd way to think, but hey if she's happy I'm happy for her. Just tell her not to spread or encourage this behavior, because the next person who permanently mutilates themselves might regret doing so and that my friend will never go away.
Zoraya Seeram I agree
Good One
This is a perfect example of why you should treat mental illness, rather than reinforce or enable it to continue. My guess, that psychologist really didn't know anything about her, she probably read his work or something and obsessed over it. Then after she blinded herself, she HAD to find someone to blame so then she could be the misunderstood victim.
but there would be records if she went to him..insurance, payment records, etc.....
@@110311DONTWANTCHANNE That is true. But correct me if I am mistaken but she has never said or provided such evidence. Just her "word".
@@jcfra420 not what i saw, by why wouldn't dr phil ask for verification? they left out important information. Phil acted like he thinks the shrink is lying.....phil usually investigates claims like that...
@@jcfra420 she could always claim the doctor required cash payments and refused to provide receipts...if it had been investigated right away, there was likely proof from her cell phone position that she was in the area of the doctors office repeatedly...i don't know if that could be tracked now...not sure if other commented posted...Phil normally investigates claims and I would think he would have asked her for proof she had contact with the shrink....Phil sounded like he felt the shrink was lying
@@110311DONTWANTCHANNE I think even Dr. Phil is wary about what he can say that could be called "transphobic". Honestly, the moment she took her eye sight, she should have been committed.
I was born with a physical disability, but I can walk. I would do anything to be able to walk for long periods of time without exhaustion. I would be appalled and offended if anyone made themselves disabled just for the benefits or whatever excuse they may have. Stuff like this is inexcusable and these people need help.
I'm similar.. but I got injured later in life, these people are disgusting
I was born with chronic asthma. And I’d give anything to have healthy lungs and be able to live a normal life, exercise, etc. what this woman did is just selfish and disrespectful
I was born with a small form of cerbal palsy as well as 2 broken femurs I can also walk but also not for long periods of time I envy people who can jog or jump rope . What this person did us truly disgusting.
I disagree with many of the comments. The blonde doctor was making sense. Mutilating your body is NOT normal. For crying out loud, have we become a society so far removed from reality that we see nothing wrong with this? And don't say "they are only hurting themselves" because they're not. She went to an ER for treatment. She had surgeries. She continues to see a doctor for eye issues, all because of HER actions. We have to pay for this with higher premiums and out of pocket costs or taxes, if she didn't have insurance. Is she going to claim disability now too? Another good question. Someone who really is blind and disabled is getting the same benefits as someone who purposely took her own sight? I don't want the money I work for to go to her, not one penny. How many other mentally unstable people are going to see this and decide to do it? How many young people with mental health issues will see this and use it as a cry for attention? It's also telling when people say well this is wrong but chopping off your penis and testicles so you can be a "woman" is ok. No, it's not any different. I know that's not PC but the truth isn't always PC. This is an example of the slippery slope we are on as a society and common sense and reality are not allowed in it.
Ikr
Agreed!
Beautifully spoken
i am SO thankful you realize this.
thank you
if she was basically already "blind" without her glasses on why didn't she just leave them off and be blind that way? instead of hurting herself ? I just don't get it ...
LaLa Reeves she was legally blind, which doesn’t actually mean she’s fully blind. I have glasses and once I take them off I would be considered “legally blind” I can still see tho, theres no darkness or anything it’s just extremely blurry.
you don't get it because you're healthy. there is no getting it, we can either trust her when she talks about how she felt or not.
Purple Burples finally some common sense.
She's stupid that's what, some people wish to be able to see things and this idiot makes herself blind. What's wrong with wearing glasses? I think it's sexy?!
Despite all explanations - I don't get it also !!! And I don't understand that "doc" who put the acid into her eyes ... Horrible !!!!!
I'm truly sorry to ALL those who SACRIFICED their lives in WW1 and WW2 for this
😂
Even as a Turkish myself, that's a fucking ouch. Yes, those Martyrs did not die because of this.
For this, and all the mentally ill people fighting for any kind of 'trans-rights'
She should pay for her own healthcare and whatever help she needs as far as blindness
I finally found what I find offensive about the blonde woman's behavior: the fact that she is going to talk about Jewl in her presence without ever speaking directly to her, as is he Jewl was too much of a fool to be able to speak for herself. Also... why doesn't anybody ask her why did she feel the need to blind herself..
+yyoo1294 I though I was the only one. I have been working with disabled people for years. It's so annoying that people come up and ask me "what is wrong with him/her/them?" and even make ignorant assumptions.
When working with the visually impaired I agreed with them they'd answer the questions like it were about me.
So when another nosy "mercy" person comes and asks "How old is she? How did she go blind? blabla".. The visually impaired answered about me "She is xx years old. She is not blind. Why would you think that? LOok she has big blue eyes!"
I am physically disabled and if that blond doctor had talked around me and made arguments for things I hadn't said I would have not have sat nicely like Jewel did.
yeah she's very condescending. and it's also really ridiculous the way she is shouting at and about this woman as if she can't comprehend that she's fucking mentally ill!! like what the fuck this is not the way you treat people with mental illness. you don't yell at them as if they're rational fucking people. like I can't with this woman how are you a doctor and you are treating a mentally ill person this way..!!? so inappropriate and unprofessional
I was thinking the same thing. That blonde bitch needs to get off the stage. She's just saying shit for the attention of the crowd and the applause and it's really pissing me off. Obviously none of us agree with puttin drain cleaner in your eyes but that chick is a disrespecful snooty ass fake.
thats because she's a disrespectful over privileged bitch with no idea what its like to live with a disorder.
Why didn't she just blind fold herself and pretend she was blind? Now she's dependent on others.
Ikr
+JennyBMoon She did that for several years if you go and watch the Dr Phil episode on her
+AppleSauce no she didn't thats what she was supposed to do
Elaina DeWitt No she did do that.
+Elaina DeWitt She did do it applesauce is right
It's not a disorder. I feel like I had a slight version of this growing up. I think it is a cry for attention that festers and becomes a obsession. Being unique is intoxicating and pity is the most tragic and romantic version. I think it's that plus it's a cop out for failure. I lied about having bad eyesight to get glasses as a kid and i pretended to have ADD so I had an excuse to not do well. I thought about breaking my arm when I saw people come to class with casts on and got all the attention. I realized how petty it is when I got a bit older but I can see people getting addicted to that but maybe I'm way off.
Same thing with me I wouldn’t really call it a body integrity thing but I always wanted certain disabilities and stuff. I currently have glasses but for some reason I’ve always wanted everything to be more blurry than it is right now. I always wish that I fell on the ground and broke my teeth or something for braces. I used to throw myself on the ground hit myself into the wall and stuff trying to break my bones. I used to punch myself in the eye trying to get a black eye, rub poop and pee into a deep cut trying to get infection, tried to give myself conjunctivitis(after successfully giving myself it once), and even trying to give myself a deep gash so that I could end up in the hospital. I remember being younger and wrapping up my arms trying to make it look like I had a cast. I don’t really know what was wrong with me but after getting hurt a few times I just loved having the injury on my body and I love the attention you get in the hospital. Every time I get injured or sick or go to the hospital it excites me. I’ve never had really any intervention for it but I just don’t really try to hurt myself anymore after so many failed attempts although I still save her and long for injuries and illnesses and I love having conditions or just being different in general.
@@blackqweenmars I think your case would be extreme enough to be a disorder. You could possibly be diagnosed with Muchausen syndrome. Look it up and see if that fits you.
It IS a disorder and probably neurologically based. A scientist studying it ruled out the cry for attention hypothesis because of the precision of the cut an amputee wannabe wanted. It would always be the same place to an inch. A brain study was done on a man who believe his left leg beneath the knee didn't belong there. He was touched on various parts of his body and it lit up normally except the part he said shouldn't be there. Quite simply, there is a body map in your brain. That map is defective in some people.
Self reflection is powerful for growing as a person....
You just gave examples that at least some of us may have experienced. The ADD was me, maybe even the cast one. But never thought about breaking an arm. They just got different colored casts with signatures.
In 20 years this will be a thing and everyone will applaud people like her, for being true to what they identify. The same thing what dr Phil and the doctors say it was said against lgbtq people some years ago.
You're right, our world is very confused.
Can’t wait to be called biidphobic
Genau! Und Ich fuhle wie ein Kind von 8 Jahre (bin 60) , also konnte eine Beziehung mit ein madchen von 7 jahre alt
@@a..j3783 I don't understand german.
Your prediction was so true brother. People now are just losing their minds, they don't know what they're doing anymore. More and more people like jewel are coming up and their absurd actions are being justified by the term identity.
and why does the female doctor go on and on about her taking ownership for whats she done? Is the patient regretting her decision or something? from what i know, she doesn't. so why is this doctor projecting her own believes to us all? makes no sense. she's really talking from emotions rather than a sensible, level headed doctor on a show.
epique wenqa aka epik As a person with a mental illness I wouldn’t want anything to do with this doctor.
Maybe bc she's sane and know that to blind yourself, one must be stupid as fuck.
Lena shut up Lena.
Because blinding yourself is dumb asf
@@lelisbet you must be absolutely moronic to say this shit and not realizing the reason you don’t understand it is because you don’t have the fucking disorder
Imagine living in such a world where blindness is a fashion statement instead of a Darwinian death sentence.
Imagine living in a world where people don't realise survival of the fittest belongs to everyone.
@brett flower We already are.
@@markbeale7390 people use it as a statement as if they're better or smarter than someone who doe's something risky.. it's stretching the meaning
2023 I wonder how those doctors are feeling about the Hypocratic Oath when it comes to puberty blockers and/or gender reassignment surgery...
That doctor seemed so ignorant and just doesn't even try to understand anything
Kassidy Gonzales she seemed like more of a sensational news caster
the lady doctor is being as close to reality as possible...
She was gifted with sight ,but blinded by the devil!🤔🙄😕😤😤
Do not blame the devil, even the devil it's not stupid to do something like this. This has a specific word and it's stupidity.
She was legally blind
The blonde lady is making the false dichotomy fallacy. It is possible to admit partial fault in a situation. There is no contradiction in saying "I shouldn't have gone about it in the way I did, but I also don't think he should have assisted me in doing so." I am not necessarily saying that this is the case, but I am saying the blonde woman's statement is not true. (And also, a licensed doctor should have much better judgment in this specific situation than a person with struggling with the severe disorder that fuels the specific situation, might I add).
seriously and they should treat a mentally ill person with respect and not scream at them and speak to them as if they're dumbasses who somehow can think rationally about this shit
That’s crazy she asked him to do it and he did, how can you be mad at somebody doing what you asked? He didn’t flag her ass down, she went to him with the bs if that’s even true. How y’all trust the word of a chick who blinded herself? She don’t seem trustworthy to me.
He said he doesn’t know her 🤷🏽♀️
@@tinarobinson6902because he is a PSYCHOLOGIST. A PSYCHOLOGIST IS SUPPOSE TO TREAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM. IMAGINE IS Someone Comes TO A PSYCHOLOGIST WITH SUICIDAL TENDENCY AND THE PSYCHOLOGIST HELPS THEM TO DO SO, WOULD YPU BLANE THE SUICIDAL OR THE PSYCHOLOGIST??????? SHE REACHED OUT TO A PSYCHOLOGIST BECAUSE SHE NEEDED HELP NOT TO ANYONE BUT A PSYCHOLOGIST!!
Well guys. I've just decided that I do not need my fingers... there Siri
People are saying the lady should have donated her eyes. Sure, chances are the poor woman would have donated her eyes if she had the mind to reason and do so! Where is our empathy! Dig deeper, and try see things from HER perspective, imagine having a mind that perceives like hers. I wish her a good life.
Zaahrah Mansoor she was born legally blind. I doubt her eyes were very good candidates anyway.
Zaahrah Mansoor she said she regretted the way she did it, I’m sure if she had the option to donate them when she did it she would have
You can’t donate eyes.
Omg, she didn't come there to be criticized Jewel came on there to tell her story and to raise awareness about her condition. The lady doctor is SO critical in almost every video I see. Just let Jewel talk!
titansgo135 so you think this behavior is okay?!
@Angie Lozada 👏👏👏
@@ZoyaRainn no, of course you shouldn’t harm yourself. literally nobody said you should. but she has a disorder that causes her brain to not recognize her sight as part of her body. it’s not her fault that she feels that way. have some fucking respect gd
I know I'm late, but I don't think doctors would allow you to donate your perfectly good eyes. Idk I'm no doctor
Wrong, she went to get attention, which is why she really got this done in the first place and the doctor said what needed to be said, she can't take both arguments, that it was her choice but that she was treated badly
Must be physically frustrating to have eyes constantly leaking.
Can't blame the doctor until she has proof that he treated her. She's obviously not okay in the head. Don't understand why they would believe her saying that a dr put that stuff in her eyes. She's crazy
The blonde lady is annoying me like she chose to do it. Doctor Phil is explaining clearly...
Abigail Dodge damn shawty tell emmm
yea she chose to do it lol
I am glad they addressed the issue regarding the medical professional she claimed did this to her. I do not believe that she had assistance, she did this to herself and in her crazy State of Mind she concocted the story with no regard to ruining and ending someone else's career.
Did she do this to get attention and be catered to her whole life, maybe?
I have a lot of compassion and understanding towards people who have medical conditions, afflictions, disabilities but I don't feel sorry for her at all because she did this to herself.
I can't imagine living without vision ☹️
everyones hating on the blonde chick but in a way she's answering some questions that people have my confronting her etc.
That lady doesn’t understand that this is a mental disorder that her brain she truly believes somethings wrong with her eyes and she’s not the only person That had done this there’s been people who cut their legs their arms their skin off because I think it’s a foreign body.
Fucking disturbing that someone would do that to themselves!
DR.PHILL MY MAN
IS THAT FINN WOLFHARD IN YOUR PROFILE PIC THO
phanic ! at the 5sos twenty øne crybabies yeah😂
Wow... they were literally just talking through her that entire time.
Would have been nice to hear her opinion on some of what was said. Gosh
that blonde doctor makes me mad
Bridget Dotson I agree with her. This isn't normal behavior.
+Patrick Lange that's why dr. Phil said it was a disorder
yes but that's not how you treat people with disorders.
+Bridget Dotson oh I completely agree with u! I didn't like her either. I was commenting on Patrick's comment
bridget your picture makes my pants tight
*The louder that woman talks, the more valid her opinion is.*
That's the way that works. Right?
This would piss me off if I was blind. Like you can't see and this lady purposely makes herself blind. I mean does she get disability? Handicap parking? Probably, and she doesn't deserve it.
There should be a program that takes people who have BIID and helps them get whatever body part removed by a professional, in the end the person with BIID will end up feeling better and someone else can get the body parts. Instead of using drain cleaner and destroying her eyes, she should have had them properly removed and donated to someone who needs working eyes. There are so many people who would kill to have their sight back.
I HAVE BIID please HELP me 😫😫😫😫😫😫😭😭😭😭😭😭.......can I free liposuction now??? My body fat just doesn’t really FEEL like it belongs to me.
... That's because you don't have mental health problems.
the thing is, she has made peace with it. she has said it herself its the lady doctor that keeps making it seem like she didn't know what she wanted when she did and she is taking responsibility.
I’m living a miserable life due to blindness from having lupus, i can’t leave my house because I don’t have any devices to help me yet there’s ppl out there intentionally becoming blind and most likely she has all she needs to live a independent life. I can’t even get a cane paid for or glasses. Wow
I understand. I'm legally blind without my contact lenses. One of my biggest fears is going blind. I have difficulty getting around when I don't have my contact lenses on my eyes.
It’s the way jewel wiped her blind eye at the end for me 😂
People would die for her "old" eye sight idk what to refer it to, I just find it sad :(
When I was younger I dreamt of breaking my leg or arm, because of the attention. I don't want that anymore.
There's a difference between breaking (a temporary situation) and amputation (super permanent)
You don’t have the disorder smart shit
The comments are disgusting. The amount of offense against the blonde doctor and the blind girl is beyond disgusting. This is sad. The comments are also sad. I lost brain cells reading the comments.
Watching this after years and I'm glad that Dr. Phil is actually involving Jewel in the conversation. As opposed to the other two doing a fucking show and tell with the woman lmao
Am I the only one that agrees with the blonde chick?
Ariel the mermaid no! I agree with her. Someone should of had her evaluated before she blinded herself. The blonde dr is saying that it could of been stopped before it got out of hand. No idea why people dont like her.
While the female doctor could have said what she was thinking in a much better tone, overall I do feel and think the same things she said. If only this woman went with the correct path to do this and did this in a surgically professional manner, her eyes could have been donated to someone who desperately wants the sense of sight.
Dr Phil is the only compassionate one here, the others are incredibly full of themselves. There are ways to completely disagreeing with someone without making it an entire spectacle with _yourself_ in the focus.
I hope they don’t actually work with any patients.
Yes. Thank you. Well said.
Went to reply to a comment but realised something entirely different:
totally agree on the sight thing but in terms of gender change, I think that's important if you're trapped in the wrong body (ie a women's body when you're a man OR vice versa). As I type this I understand that this women probably felt this way too but about her sight. I wish she could have sought out help beforehand (from a qualified professional) and I'm sure somewhere in the world this is allowed, so if it is deemed necessary for her happiness then it could be safely done.
I guess we're all shocked because we all view sight as a gift in this world, one of which many people take for granted.
I'm not condoning or agreeing with what this women has done but I guess sight was a burden for her that she needed to released from in order to be free and live her life the way she was destined to (in her mind that is).
Hellomylovelies I think the difference is that a trans person, whilst the operations etc are painful, are not in the long term damaging their body. The BIID seems to be solely about damage, and doing something to your body to create a disability, and that's what is so hard to comprehend! I can see the similarities, but whilst I can understand what it must be like to be transgender, I cannot fathom BIID!
Kathryn Kibby I totally agree with you, I'm just trying to rack my mind around this disorder to see why drives someone to do this
How would they distinguish BIID from Body Dysphoria?
I believe in the existence and validity of BIID after watching a very thorough documentary on the subject. Apparently they did very advanced brain scans of the sufferers of BIID, and they showed that whatever body part felt alien to the person, would not show as "registered" very clearly in their brain scans. In other words, all their other body parts would show up as accurately recognized and "accepted" by their brains, but not the conflicting body part. For a person not suffering from BIID, it would be like having a giant horn growing out of your head that wasn't supposed to be there. Anyone would want the horn removed. That's basically how it is for a person with BIID. Their body is telling them they have a part that should not be there, so they want it removed. It was a fascinating documentary, but it was also very strange and somewhat frightening.
With that said, I don't understand why this woman couldn't have simply worn black, opaque contacts that would essentially "blind" her without actually blinding her. I'm sure such a thing exists. That way, should a successful treatment or cure come about for BIID, she could simply stop wearing the contacts. At this point, her vision is destroyed and not salvageable.
I think the reason why she wouldn't want to just cover her eyes up, was because it wouldn't be enough. Just as you said, if we had a horn on our forehead, we would want it removed IMMEDIATELY. we wouldn't want to cover it up with a hat, or a wig, we would want it gone! Because it's foreign to us, it annoys us, frustrates us, makes us sad, angry. So I'm pretty sure she felt the same sort about her eyes.
Why large horn on your forehead. What about extra limbs like arms and fingers you don't want
I think that's not a good example. Having something "extra" is seen as bad mostly for aesthetical reasons or when this compromises your normal life. Now, imagine you have something extra that also gives you an extra ability, like wings, you would feel different but happy to be able to fly. So for the eyes, she might feel her sight as something extra, but she cannot deny it's also useful for a comfortable living. That being said, if the problem is not psychologic (and I'm nobody to affirm that), there's should be something else for sure to explain in what way they feel their body parts as not part of the whole.
I know it's a stupid example but hopefully it's easy to understand.
A horn (like you said) would be cumbersome, awkward, unnecessary etc. while sight is clearly not, it has no negative impact on your life in any way.
Well if u did have a horn growing from ur forehead, u wouldnt just wanna cover it up would u? You'd want it GONE, just as she wanted her eyesight gone. She did it to her own body, it doesnt effect anyone else, so i say let people do what they want to their own bodies.
Oooooooooohhhhh you watched a ‘documentary’ what an expert!!
You’re sick
God bless u all. Follow him. Poor woman. She needs help. I suffer from mental health.
Jesus that female doctor is disgusting. All she has done is attack that woman in very underhanded ways because her little brain can't get past her disdain for what she had done. I certainly don't support what she did to herself but the pathetic way that "doctor" tried to make out the woman was playing the victim and had to take ownership for what she did to herself was less than professional. Even more so when the woman has owned her actions from the get go. ....and of course the audience applaud blindly at just about everything but then again doesn't every TV show audience.
i agree
I only agree with the validity of her points, I will never support self-harm if anyone respected her they would enroll her in a mental institution out of kindness
She's right though! think about it, you know if that's what she wanted yes by all means! but it's honestly just stupid, its not a good show for younger people thinking it's okay to do that because no it's not, that's just like suicide it's like taking the easy way out when people are soo full of depression and just had enough, they see other people on the news committing to it! its not a good look , but taking it away by dropping drain cleaner in purposely.. girll na uh it's not right sorry but it aint
get2rog when she was saying "it can't be both"
well, yes it can. The woman has a psychological condition that causes her to feel this way and this has always been the way she feels. She risked losing her family to get this, that's how much it meant to her. It isn't something you just decide and she has took ownership of it.
But also (assuming her story is true) she found someone on the internet who she believed was a psychologist who would help her to finally be the person she wanted to be. If this person did this to her then he is completely
get2rog accountable for his actions and should be questioned further. That is unprofessional, not done clinically or safely (to other body parts). it is a strange case, definitely and I am not condoning her taking her own sight when others would kill to even have it for a day. But a psychological issue is just that. it plays on your mind forever and you cannot help it. should this woman have to live in misery all her life just because the blonde doctor doesn't understand it. she talks past her, she won't even look at her. She is so blunt and rude and doesnt seek to learn more about her and get a better understanding, she just judges and ridicules her on TV. Jewl actually cries and wipes her tears at one point and that bitch doesn't care.
It's unbelievable that a doctor would do that to her. I don't believe her. She's mental.
Blonde lady making no sense.
+maggie bridget your argument begs to differ
no sense at all and also being a horrible bitch and super unprofessional
trolololol lololol So, prove me wrong and gouge out your eyes.
I disagree with both her and Dr. Phil that it is ANYTHING like being transgender, oh my god -- extreme self-harm via chemically burning your eyeballs because of what Dr. Phil himself calls a mental disorder, is NOTHING like *professionally and safely* operated sex reassignment surgery -- HOWEVER, that very last point that she made was completely correct, absolutely.
Jenya March I think that's the overall point they're trying to make. This woman maybe is alike to transgendered individuals in a way that she experiences dysphoria regarding an aspect of her physical body. However, transgendered individuals usually (hopefully) have the means to professionally and safely go about medical reassignment or what have you. This woman unfortunately was not afforded the professional help she needed and ended up with someone who took advantage of her mental state and acted completely irresponsibly.
it's scary The person diagnosed with this!😕
Since self-perception began to be discussed, I have had the same opinion: "Nobody encourages an anorexic person to vomit, so why are we going to encourage a person to change their gender with irreversible surgery?" And this has nothing to do with his sexual orientation. Later, cases appeared of men who were convicted and who perceived themselves as women to go to a women's prison, and where they raped women. Or a man over 50 in Canada who sees himself as an 8-year-old girl. Now we see this case of a woman who injured herself on purpose to go blind. Millions of blind people in the world, whether from birth or accidents or some disease, would give anything to see again. I think we need to go back to the roots of science where there are 2 genders and self-perception of something that a person is clearly not, should be treated as a disorder. This disorder may be to get more attention or something deeper, but it should be treated by specialists and not encouraged by "progressive" groups.
She lied to the hospital about what happened. Why are we believing her about who the doctor is or if there was a doctor
TAKE👏YOUR👏MEDS👋👀
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I think they had an agreement that it would never be told.
Comparing this to gender identity disorder is just another thing that’s going to hurt trans people.
Every thing doesn’t have to be a diagnosis,, sometime is good to call out crazy
I can relate. Ever since I can remember I have always felt that my legs should not be there below the knee. I am 18 now. I’ve gone as far as looking up how to get selective amputations, and or how to damage my legs to the point of needing a double below the knee amputation. I’ve looked up all kinds of prosthetics, wheelchairs, etc. my legs have just never fit right in my mind. I heard about this disorder a couple of years ago and it clicked. I haven’t sought out therapy for it, and I’ve never even told a single person; I just don’t know how. I probably will in the near distant future, but it’s scary to bring it up. People judge.
They do but I wish you the best on however it turns out for you
People are always going to judge.
Mental illnesses are staigmized and demonized as something "Evil"
Another dummy
So did you cut them off or what ?? I wanna know
As someone who's disabled not by choice. I hope you don't get disability or get handicap parking. Other than that it's your life.
It doesn't matter what I think.
I don't blame the psychologist, she drove herself to him and pursued it, he just did what she wanted and you can say that's wrong but psychologist give out drugs every second to patients that can kill them but it's what the patient wants, we don't stop the pharmacies, it's her own damn fault
+Ganjah King
there would've been better ways than drain cleaner, though
like giving her working eyes or parts of it, to people who need it
+Ganjah King
there would've been better ways than drain cleaner, though
like giving her working eyes or parts of it, to people who need it
When I see my eye doctor every year, I'm petrified when the doctor and the technicians open my eyes for me, and put eye drops into my eyes. For Chloe here, I just can't comprehend this disorder.
I hate my eyes but I wouldn't do this tbh. I'm already blind as it is I run into walls and shit if I don't have my glasses on but my glasses drive me crazy soo yea. her eyes were so pretty too. tbh I'd do anything to have her eyes before she did this
Your a beautiful person 💜
I think she just don't want to have to see her self
This is so stupid, no one is going to see this and think fuck it I don't want to see anymore. -__- To do this to yourself isn't on a whim. How can you say that you want to help people, but have no compassion for them?
Great doctor I agree I understand it’s not her it’s a disorder but I do agree that’s it hard to understand why it happens
Guys it is rare disorder called BIID. It really exist. It is basically your brain skipped registering your eyes or arms or legs before you are born and your brain tells you it is not your eyes or arms or legs. It bothers so much and i have seen it where this girl cut one of her legs off because it felt so heavy-like she feels like she can't walk even though her legs are completely healthy. It is really sad but who are we to judge🙃
It’s not a recognized disorder, Nd no, it doesn’t exist.
The question is : where is the limit of “ I feel like I am something else” ?
some people will do anything for sympathy, some do it to their kids
I really hope that insurance didn’t pay for this
I'm wholeheartedly with the female doctor. Usually people with a disorder(my opinion) don't want to have a disability or want something wrong with them. I watched the parts given, someone please show me where she tried to get help before actually taking her own sight. You deliberately did this to yourself, so please don't look for taxpayers to deliberately take care of you. My thoughts and opinions.
This is 8 years ago but sooooooooo relevant right NOW!!!
What is her point on being on the show if shes not regretting it ?! what does she wants out of it?
Stella I think she wants her family back because they disowned her.
oh I see....
Stella Yeah, I believe she wants them to understand that she isn't a normal human being, lol.
What!? LOL
Stella lmao I have no further reasons why she is even on the show.
i am sitting here going blind because of axenfeld-rieger syndrome and glaucoma and praying everyday i keep my sight or that they can actually do surgery to keep what sight i do have and this lady poured drain cleaner in her eyes? you have got to be kidding me!
Better not be in the next DSM. That would open the door for justifiable self harm when the behavior is self harm and they are 5150 at that point and should be hospitalized until mentally stable. Period!
But the DSM is a catalogue of mental disorders and most, if not all, are deemed not normal by social standards. Including this in the DSM could open the door for a better understanding of the disease and lead to better treatment options and the prevention of self harm.
I’m a nurse practitioner and I have to side with Dr. Phil here.
I just can't understand her logic.. why would anyone want to purposely go blind?
Natasha Bellasario its a mental disorder are u listening
Hope Lichtenstein no shit. 😑 and FYI I have a minor in human psychology. I KNOW it's a disorder. So for starters, stop typing like a child. :)
Hope Lichtenstein the question is WHY. Duh. Ignorant people like you are the reason beer was invented. 😑
This is just scary thinking about it
no way is that normal. some people would do anything to have sight why should she be allowed to do that to herself without being put in a syhc ward
Chloe Limb *psych ward
No trying to denegrate or detract from people with Body Integrity Identity Disorder, but wow, blinding yourself seems a soupçon extreme
Already commented on one part of this video and just gonna say this again. She already had terrible eyesight to begin with. She was legally blind without her glasses. Blonde woman needs to calm down.
I'm scared of Drano all of a sudden.
That blonde woman was speaking facts
Lady! SPEAK! Exactly!
i bet the guy who blinded her made it part of the agreement that she tell no one his name or what he did, and then this one goes on TV and tells everyone 😩 of course he acted like she has no idea who he is
**like he has no idea who she is
she would have records that she went to that doctor, insurance bills, payments, etc....
satan is responsible
for the above sentence
Why can't they make an opaque Lens, an intraoculaire lens (IOL). It would leave the 'body identity disorder' patient with what they want, left without sight. At the same time not damaging the eye and compromising the doctors oath. If the patient changes their mind, the lens can be removed.
she lied when dr phill asked her if he did it to her. when she replied she lied to dr phill. she did this to herself.
Where do we draw the line?
She wasn't "victimized".... She , SHE, herself decided to do this act to herself. It's all about being a "victim"... that's it. Everyone feel bad for me. Aaahhh! That's the problem.
Rofl the fact that this ‘psychiatrist’ denies knowing her says it all. Insanity.
It is really disaponting to see everybody judging instead of undersanding. The female doctor was completly pug of place saying what she said. LIVE AND LET LIVE.
Can’t you just close your eyes instead of ruining it?
This is what happens when we pretty much acknowledge everything is being okay in society
We get things like this