This episode was actually really deep i didn't expect it to be.. let me know your opinions on it! Also do you want me to make this a series and react to more Supernanny episodes?
Or even one episode where the parents refused to spend any time with their younger kids outside of playing and left child rearing to the pulled-out-of-school eldest daughters, and one of the girls literally passed out due to exhaustion from not sleeping and eating properly for days
@ think you probably need legal proceedings there, never mind super nanny 😬😅. Or the episode where the dad nearly chucked super nanny out of his house for giving him advice when he was the one who called her, it’s crazy!
I feel like Tara definitely has depression, the way she doesn't have the energy to do anything but will try everything to help her children, she's such an inspiration to stay motivated but she definitely needs help or therapy
@@tofu7269 Yeah I guess she had the strength to reach out for help; I only had one child and he turned out to be a shit so far. His dad is one of those; honestly I wish I had never born him
If your kids don't seem to appreciate you, they will. My mum was a single mum and as I've gotten older, I've been able to appreciate everything she did for me, even the tiniest things.
I felt bad for her and the kids. When a parent has depression like that (especially if you are a single parent), it doesn’t only affect the person who has it but also affects the children. Most of them are in very important ages where they need constant attention and Tara obviously is not in the right emotional or mental state to do that for them. This can result in neglect and emotional abuse (obviously not on purpose but it doesn’t change what it is) and can have detrimental consequences on the child’s brain that will remain for the rest of their lives. It’s a very sad situation where I feel bad for the mom, but my heart especially goes out to the children who inconsequently become victims in this situation when their parent(s) are unable to fully parent and give affection
That's part of the reason why I don't want kids. when taking care of yourself is a daily battle that feels unwinnable.... taking care of another life is THAT much harder
The thing is, Reese‘s behavior is unacceptable, so the naughty corner thing has to be carried out religiously. Once she starts she CANNOT stop putting him there until he does what she wants, otherwise he’ll learn that he can still get his way eventually
yes, and the point he made about "surely it isnt working" was ill informed. changing behavior requires patience and repeated effort. they wont always get it as fast as you want them to, but its not about what you want, its about getting your kid to the level they need to be without causing them harm. leadership is about communication, understanding, and respect. every family and child is different, but we are all still able to learn from each other.
there’s this amazing study (it’s lowkey harrowing, but it’s intellectually amazing) about how a mother’s facial expressions impact the child’s mental health and development. i THINK it’s called the still faced mothers? but Tara seriously reminds me of that study, which would explain why the eldest child is more emotionally developed, and why the younger two are… hellish. this also supports the attention theory. i wonder if the presence of another adult in the house (even just part time) would benefit Tara, because it seems like she doesn’t have any external support from the grandparents or anything. this is proper depressing…
I’m inclined to agree. When she was handed a mirror to look at her face (not a picture as Cam thought LOL) she found it really difficult to moderate her voice and face to show enthusiasm. All her energy has been sucked out by those kids.
Yes, babies whos mothers show no emotion withdraw and don't make eye contact because they don't feel any sense of safety and security. Tone of voice is also something very young children pick up on.
Lmao every time I get on my phone my 3 year old says "why you mad, Mommy?" I always have to say I'm just thinking or concentrating. I'm really not mad or trying to look angry.
@HerHollyness yes but it's less tiring to parent them right the first time. I have a toddler and a baby and I'm tired all the time, but not like Tara. My God, I would need a caffeine IV. She's got it 100x harder than I do, with one extra kid
Love how empathetic and entertaining these videos are I found Supernanny’s hacks helpful when I was a nanny, it’s very hard to stay consistent but it eventually pays off In some cases I think the issues are deeper than just misbehaviour and should be looked into
I'm adopted. I was an only child for 12 years, got three adopted siblings when I was 12, and three more when I was 15. I'm quite a bit older than them as well. Being the quiet behaved one because your other siblings are having meltdowns and destroying the house is so real. I've really struggled a lot with hiding in the background and not getting my parents attention, and even not getting outside attention from friends and family because I'm being quiet, so they think im fine. I'm 26 now and still struggle to open up, and often feel out of place in my own family. It's getting better but it's so refreshing to see someone recognize that the quiet kids need the attention too, it's so hard to grow up like that
six siblings in three years??? hell, no wonder the house was in an uproar, and thats before factoring in behavioral issues which are common for adoptees. it feels... irresponsible of your parents. i mean i dont know the situation, if it was an emergency, or what, but it's a lot of new children to bring into the family at once. regardless, im really sorry you had to deal with such a chaotic home environment in your adolescence, and had to suppress yourself into that invisible kid even outside of the family. :( i cant imaigne how lonely that'd feel.
Unfortunately for parents that are struggling it’s the squeaking wheel that gets the grease. The kids making noise get the attention because they steal the attention.
I have respect for people who adopt children but having 7 children at once, regardless of if they're adopted or not, just always seems like a trashy thing to do. I had 3 siblings and I'm the oldest and even growing up like that I feel like 3 is the absolute limit before you start neglecting the other children.
The absolute fear that this woman struck into my soul as a young girl cannot be exaggerated. "Stop doing that or I'll ring supernanny" was possibly the scariest threat you could recieve 😨🤣
As a teacher, the absolute lack of safeguarding by these 2000s TV shows does my head in. They literally show the children in their school uniforms and the exact route they take from home to school. Every predator in the country would have known exactly where those children lived, their names, what school they went to, and that they had a single mum who finds it difficult to cope with them. It makes every instinct in my body SCREAM.
Kids who are loved with parents are way less likely to be kidnapped then kids who are in abusive or poverty riddled households (even more so in families who are poc)
As someone who has worked in childcare/child rearing, the whole naughty corner thing where yes, it does seem confusing and like a waste of time to keep repeating an action that isnt getting immediate results! but just as youve mentioned, this is a new concept that they have not learned or experienced yet, and with young children the cardinal rule is consistency is key and they will learn eventually. And while yes, an hour of this is EXCRUCIATING, it also is a fairly quick turnaround time in terms of child understanding for such a radically different way of doing things. (PS I also watched a lot of supernanny, and this is a VERY common occurrence when she implements the naughty space for the house. Almost every time the parents repeat the process for at least an hour or so, LOL)
I think it's probably harder being a lone parent continually putting the same child back on the naughty step..at least working in childcare you have colleagues to support you and lighten the load
What’s crazy is that this tactic worked when we were training my dogs. My male dog was a wild guy and got into EVERYTHING as a puppy, so we did time outs. You stole my shoe? Five minute time out. Stole it again? Another five minute time out. Over and over and over and it’s absolutely miserable but it worked, and he’s so incredibly well behaved four years later. I literally just have to give him a look when he’s getting into trouble and he immediately listens. I’ve never gotten physical with him, just calmly suffered through the training, and he’s really great. Not comparing dogs to kids, I can just see the logic here.
My parents never had time for me when I was younger because my older brother has so many allergies (anaphylaxis) and he was almost dying regularly. I was told I wouldn’t cry much as a baby and I would only start crying after my parents had sorted out my brother, almost like I already knew that he was the priority.
I feel this, but i was that child that had all the attention. I have several chronic disabilities, and my brother must have been the same, just having to deal with life without the same support I had because my parents were focused on me. I hope you are doing well now!
I feel you - my brother was born and spent his first 6 months in intensive care and then was in and out. I went from being the centre of my parent's world to only existing in my father's eyes. My mother was overwhelmed, anorexic and just pandering to my brother with no regard to me. I stopped trying to seek her approval and only sought it from my father and grandparents - with her I was like the eldest here, present, but quiet and robotic. The problem was that he grew up unable to not be the centre of attention. He'd destroy my things to get attention from mum. Mum and Dad split up and gave us to my half-uncle to raise. We remained the respective "favourites" of our mum and father until they died.
@@catedempsey5707that’s really tough, sorry you had to go through that. For me because he’s my older brother and only sibling I’ve never known any different. I was told that I’ve slept on hospital floors and got dragged around to doctor’s appointments…unfortunately I’ve now developed OCD because I’ve never known a life without worrying about food. My dad is completely emotionally unavailable and my mum was always focused on keeping my brother alive. It can be really difficult for siblings of children who need extra care as well as growing up with a parent with disorders of their own. I hope you’re doing well.
As someone with clinically diagnosed depression, in my opinion Tara has depression and needs to see a professional for help. I say this as her behaviour, her body language, they way she speaks and replies to supper nanny with short un-emotional answers or with a huff or sigh and They way she seems empty with no energy and zombie like as you described it all fits the symptoms of depression. It's completely understandable though and honestly I think anyone in her position would struggle I definitely couldn't do what she does. It's amazing how despite this she still wakes up everyday and does what she can to help and take care of her kids. She puts them first no matter what and it's inspiring, she's so strong and I truly believe that with time, supper nannys and I think a therapist help and potentially maybe some medication I think she and her kids can live a happy, healthy lives. I wish nothing but the best to her and them 🙏
You can’t give up on discipline with kids. You won’t get anything done in the beginning. It will be exhausting. It will take months and months. There are NO shortcuts. But if you don’t do it, your kids will be unsafe, they will grow into poorly adjusted adults and they won’t feel love from their parents because the home will be a constant war zone. Once the discipline is there, it gets easier.
yes, because you are giving a new habit and breaking the old one. those kids spent years learning to behave a certain way. 30 min is NOTHING compared to that. give them time, obviously! if you can not spend at least 40 minutes a day to teach your kids then I dont know what to tell you. if you are not present and an active part in your kids lives, dont expect them to be any different. you cant give up on them before you even give them a chance.
@@magicdolphin3090Exactly, think about how many minutes have gone into creating their bad habits! 30 minutes or a few hours is a drop in the ocean. I am also sure that there are many parents with children who turn out poorly due to poor parenting who would jump at the opportunity to go back in time and sacrifice a few hours to help their child's entire life.
It was a longterm fix for me & my kids. The long standoffs only happened a few times at the start, where I had to prove I was the one who was in control. They're 17 & 19 now and I couldn't be prouder of the people they are. It allowed me to parent without raising my voice, gave me back my power and kept the entire household calm ♥To be clear - I watched the show for a good bit, and then used the technique
Yup. scrolled down to say this, the techniques might be frustrating at first, but the kids will realise they won't win, and it's not worth the energy just for a few seconds more out of timeout or being in bed. A lot of the families they revisited genuinely had massive improvements and I believe these techniques work well.
I wish my parents were like this! They were inconsistent on discipline, they wouldn't make it clear what I was doing wrong, and they'd go from 0 to 100 on the rage and getting WAY too harsh. Now I'm an adult with crippling anxiety, no confidence, second guessing every action, and if it weren't for my childhood cat still living with them I'd probably go no contact because they've caused me severe C-PTSD.
17:45 yeah... thats what being a parent is. Also with the time out, yes, in the beginning it may take 400 attempts to get them to stay in time out, but the 5th month of doing it that way every single time, they will learn that you arent going to give in and it will work. Same with the bed time. It works, just not the first time.
I'd be interested in seeing you react to the Chapman Family episode. Another completely different episode as it's the daughters who call Supernanny on the Parents
I have a faint memory (I think from this same season of Supernanny) of a family who I think had lost a child to SIDS, and their remaining son was so badly behaved that they couldn't even do a naughty step with him. I think they were called the Smith-Clarke family or something like that, you should totally react to that one because frankly I think it' the wildest one out there!
I had a holiday job while I was at College, 'monitoring' a group of 9 boys, around 11-12 years old. The 'posh' ones were the worst behaved. Usually took an hour to settle them down once in bed. Reading a story usually worked (story suitable for their age), along with threats to withhold activities as an extreme measure. It was exhausting, but the worst behaved were the ones who seemed saddest to be leaving. I did three holidays, three different groups of children. Always the same. Children need discipline, and boundaries.
@CamKirkham school trip to a zoo. All sorts of unexpected shit happens then. Like the time two of my friends saw some rhinos shagging. I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up in a situation on a school trip to the zoo where it was either deal with a child or fight a bear
It's actually so nice and such a change watching someone having empathy for the parent. You seem like a really kind person, and seeing the mum as a human being ❤ Also really enjoyed watching this, great work 😊
10:00 this is actually like a super good take, these kids are essentially being abused, verbally and physically, and the kids hurt her back as this is all they know, as it what’s they’ve been taught. it’s a cycle
But perhaps Tara only started responding in aggressive ways because the kids did it first. It's completely natural to end up responding aggressively when people are being aggressive towards you over and over again. It's obviously not right, but it's natural. I honestly think Tara was quite restrained...I probably would have ended up seriously hurting them...or letting Reece run under a car because I'd given up caring and just wanted the stress he constantly caused to be over in any way possible. Regret would have come later, but in the moment, I wouldn't have given a crap. I have zero patience with kids like this. Luckily my children were really fantastic most of the time and were an absolute joy and pleasure to bring up.
@ children do not just start behaviour, social learning theory, behaviour is seen and copied. they will not learn to be agressive without seeing that happen first. admitting you would let a child die is a pretty horrible thing to say??? you should genuinely consider getting therapy or other mental health help if you would let a child die simply cause they’re annoying you. that’s beyond fucked up
@@tee-ee1ow Yes, I understand all that, but it's not always just 'learned behaviour'. Sometimes it's genetic. The very fact that her oldest child was perfectly nice and well behaved should tell us something. It's extremely important (for all of us!) for people to be open and honest about what they could be driven to when they are constantly under attack. Not everybody can handle that amount of stress. That's just a fact. So there is no point in pretending otherwise. It wouldn't have been a conscious decision to let a child die (which is not something I would ever want to do). It would have been a desperate moment where I couldn't cope and just wanted everything to stop.
@ there is zero excuse for saying you would let a child die in any circumstances at all. as an abuse survivor i will not sit and hear the same rhetoric i heard whole being abused. there is zero excuse for admitting you would let a child die under your care, zero. also basic psychology, which i am studying, children’s behaviour is learnt. chikdren do not know how to be this level of aggressive without seeing this behaviour beforehand. that’s a basic fact. her eldest was parented differently it’s quite blatantly obvious, eldest children are always raised to different standards. she is also a different age to the rest, which would have impacted her development differently to the other two. a year can be extremely important to development. so don’t you ever dare try and admit to me you would let a child die under your care because you woudlnt parent them properly. what a disguting thing to say. if you are driven to let a child die you should seek immediate help. whatever lead you to believe that is fine is wrong. i hope your children are at an age where they can be safe and far far away from you
@@letsrock1729it is quite literally, IMPOSSIBLE, for a child to express new behaviours with Zero outside influence from the world around them. A sociopath is not born, they are made. This women has made her child like that, simple as. This isn’t a moral argument, it is a known fact that it’s impossible for a child to express any new behaviour, however they act is due to their environment
Don't underestimate the power of talking! Speaking from experience with a family that only knows small talk, it is so important! I am 35, still can't talk to my parents about serious things like my feelings etc. Been in therapy for 3 years now, still don't know how to do that because the subconscious learned behaviour of "not talking about things" is so strong.
13:45 I see why you say that, but this is why so many parents give up. You keep going and going and going. Eventually the child realizes that you will never give up. After a few weeks of absolute hell, the child will STAY in that naughty corner, learn accountability, learn to apologize and hugs and kisses always come after so the child will still feel that unconditional love. True, you’ll get absolutely nothing done at first, but eventually you will because the child will learn manners and basic decency.
Putting them back in the naughty corner over and over and over again eventually shows the child who is in control. The thing with this show was what the parents did when Supernanny went that was interesting. One thing I’ve always wondered about is what Supernanny was like when the cameras weren’t rolling, what do others think?
Yes exactly, it isn't just about the end result of the child staying in the corner but each time they get out back they are learning that they have to do what their mother tells them and they will face consequences for their bad behaviour.
There's a reason why you don't get single parent swans. It's a full time job raising kids - and then some Cam speaks like someone who isn't a dad but has a good heart and empathy. Sadly those things don't raise kids
I feel so bad for Kacey, as the eldest daught3r, 4 younger, my heart really goes out to her. It's so hard knowing You'll never get the most attention no matter how good you behave because of your little siblings. It's really sad aswell that she's come to terms with the fact she's not going to get much attention.
Repetition is key with correcting behaviors. You are suprised it took 98 times to get him in bed but how many times did he get away with it before that night? 2 hours is nothing compared to how many hours of programming in his brain needed to be undone. If you try to mix it up after 3 times they wont learn anything. This is actually the best thing super nanny does for the family because she sits with them for the most grueling part and it gets less grueling every time after that. Trust is lesrned through consistency.
Also, when you do the timeout for the first time and you start implementing this plan, it's a battle of the wills. If you give up and 'try something else' you've lost the war...
Exactly, if you give up it shows the child that they can just act poorly and you will cave, it also shows you are a poor leader who the child is Les inclined to respect.
I do feel sorry for Tara in this episode. I remember reading somewhere that the father of her kids died which makes sense as to why Tara is like this. She is obviously depressed and is struggling to not only cope with looking after her kids by herself but also grieve for the loss of her partner.
Yeah, I did a bit of parental bereavement and the effects it has on kids in college, and one of the big things was making sure the adults had a support system for their grief so they could support the kids. You cant pull from an empty well after all. I remember as a kid telling my grandma (who was my guardian) that I missed my dad and she shot back that "he was my son too, and I dont get time to cry about it" in this bitter tone. It wrecked me and wasnt good for a grieving kid to hear, but in hindsight I can also understand that she was hurting and unsupported. It doesnt make what she said okay, but we cant expect an adult to be perfect when they're going through something like that without some sort of give.
@@Wandervenn my mum died when I was 11 and all I got from my dad when I tried expressing that I missed her or was struggling was "life goes on" and that was it. He had about as much empathy as a brick.
@@katbagley3214 What attitude? Dude I'm literally just confused as to what you're trying to say. You're not really writing in complete sentences so I'm left to try to figure out the context based on assumption.
Ive been in this situation 3 kids under 10. All with autism and adhd. I decided I needed to change my mindset. I was always scared of school holudays, bc the boys behaviour was horrendous. I took my 2 youngest out of school they were not coping. There are loads of hime school groups u could do 4 a day if u wanted to. Eventually I took my eldest out. The children also had PTSD frim my abusive ex husband, which now they are 31 29 and 25 we are still working with. But over time doing lessons making them fun, they imorived to the amazing people they are today. Eldest is a swordsman and does tournaments, the other does mountain bijubg and airsoft. My daughter struggles but is a self learner and has great intelligence I was told by doctors they would never be able to do anything. They do so much. So proud of them xxx
Cam.. I just wanted to say how refreshing you are. I love the commentary RUclips space but I've had to stop following some creators because they exclusively bash and try to cancel people. It's always "this person said this and now they basically deserve to die." (Note I'm not saying that we shouldn't call people out on their bs) But they way you approach topics is extremely respectful. You always look at it from both sides with empathy and give fair and constructive criticism. Your kindness really shines through ❤
Since you watched the one with the worst kids, you need to watch the one with the worst parents, the ones that force their fourteen and sixteen year old daughters to homeschool so they can spend all their time babysitting their younger brothers. Very depressing episode, the Chapman Family, I believe it is.
Tara could almost do with some respite care, like they sometimes do for parents of kids with severe care needs. Just to give her a bit of time to reset and focus on herself, and maybe being looked after by someone else for a bit might help the kids appreciate their mum more
She needs support from friends and family. It would be basically impossible for her to access respite care through the council and it might be cost prohibitive for her on her own.
I hate to tell you but these methods 100% work. It looks brutal but you need to persist with it. I promise you minor miracles occur if you stay strong.
It's all about consistency and following though. Never threaten the child with a punishment you are unprepared to follow through with and don't promise them a reward they won't get to get a moment's peace. She told him he had to stay in the naughty spot and made sure he did no matter how hard he made it.
When you've got behavior issues like Reese's, you really DO have to celebrate the "small" wins like keeping your cool on the 98th time of putting your kid back to bed.
One of my family friends went on one of the supernanny type shows (her kid was later found to be neurodivergent) and EVERYTHING was blamed on her parenting. It's made me take shows like this with a huge pinch of salt, especially when supernanny treats the kids like the devil. They are possibly acting out cos theres a whole film crew in their house and they're neurodivergent, and their parents are the "safe people" that they know won't abandon them. Editing cos of replies: I'm not debating that parents are responsible for their kids behaviour lmao, I'm a parent myself I fully agree with that. But when "professionals" are not considering other options than lazy parenting or a lack of discipline when kids are displaying very clear signs of autism or ADHD, I remember that they're making a TV show and don't take what they say as gospel. That's all 🤗
In one episode where the boy was known to be ADHD, supernanny was extremely nice to him and was more of helping his parents to understand the boy rather than demonising the child for him acting out I have often seen episodes where supernanny just focuses on the parents because she knows that it _is_ the parent so does not treat the child as evil. In many, she even makes activities where the child is encouraged to say how they feel to the parent because of her knowing that the child just needs support
Other shows that aren't this exact supernanny are unreliable though because they aren't under British TV laws, where in England you can't stage things and lie to people so you know that Jo is professionally trained
@@Sh12pen The thing is, outside of genuine congenital disorders, children aren't just _born_ 'evil'. It really does come down to bad parenting an overwhelming majority of the time. The problem is that there seems to be some sort of social taboo against calling out bad parenting or actually placing blame on parents for how they've raised their children to behave. No parent ever wants to accept responsibility, usually making remarks like "don't tell me how to raise my child!!". We're supposed to pretend parents are infallible and that their child's misbehaviour must be the result of mystical intervention from some sort of malevolent higher power. These parents apply for the show because they want validation. They want Supernanny to come and 'fix the child' when again, the majority of the time, it's the parents themselves (or more so their methods) that need fixing. It's like how people will call Gordon Ramsay to come fix their restaurant yet will flip out the moment he dares to suggest it's their food that's the problem. The thing people don't seem to understand about parenting is that there are so many ways you can fuck it up that aren't easily apparent or the symptoms of which will take years to appear. The consensus seems to be that so long as you're not doing anything that will get authorities to take your child away (like blatant abuse) then you're doing a great job and cannot be criticised in any way.
I literally just made a comment like this. I was like I wonder if Supernanny ever behind-the-scenes tell these parents that they should see a specialist. Apparently not. That is so sad.
@@Sh12pen it was a British show she was on, I can't remember the name of it but it was on the BBC. I def agree that some issues are caused or made worse by negative parenting skills (I think parenting classes should be mandatory tbh), but in my opinion some of these kids are clearly struggling with something more than just "not enough discipline" or "wanting attention please ignore them till they behave", and that's why I personally don't trust their judgement. I know that our friend didn't get offered any support to help with her parenting even though they spent the whole show blaming her. And that was the BBC, in the UK, so I don't trust them. But everyone's entitled to an opinion ☺️
Trust me, you probably do not. You never know what you're going to get. It is not just nurture. Genetics (nature) can kick your ass. I wanted kids, didn't think I could have them, surprise at 29 I was pregnant, and yea, my child is non-speaking, autistic, ADHD, and recently had a seizure at age 7. I'm really depressed (granted, I have had MDD since I was a kid), and it is really hard. Probably just get a nice pet. 😊
@androgynylunacy hey I know you're struggling but think about how your kid would feel if they read this comment when they're older or even just right now because all I'm getting is "oh I'm a burden and my mom wishes she never had me" thankfully I haven't had a seizure but I myself have autism and ADHD (I have been diagnosed since 6) among many other physical issues which is typical and genetically linked with autism. And uh we don't appreciate be talked about like that. And if you feel that way then yeah you should have never had a child. You don't love them despite, you love them because.
@@androgynylunacy I get that kids can be hard, but be careful your kid never hears those thoughts. Because the idea that you are a burden and the fear of not being a burden are very easy to ingrain in a child and once they’re there, it’ll take them years to untangle themselves from those self hating ideas.
I think the point of going through with Rhys for the hour+ just to get him to politely ask for a drink, is so when this practice is repeated it will take less time - it's not intended to work overnight. This is the same with the 98 times to get him to go to bed; next time it might be 88, then after that 78...it's gone take a while but Tara is proving to them that she can't be ignored - no amount of ignoring commands will make her give up. Tara has amazing patience and obviously cares for her kids, but it's at a breaking point where this show is like a last resort, hope it worked out well for her.
I love how u add such empathetic and insightful commentary, it really sets u apart from other RUclipsrs in this genre in the best way❤️ love ur videosss
it's so important to have empathy like you do... it's so extremely difficult to have kids on your own, and it's so stressful and painful to have your kids treat you that way and not have a break. The depression and pain she must be in is so sad. And her kids not having their other parent is also so hard for them.
My mother once said to me “being a parent is a thankless job” I didn’t understand that until I became a parent myself. You can do everything for your child and it’s still not enough to them.
Never forget the episode where she was in the U.S and the father beat his intellectually disabled child with a belt. And Nanny was so upset, trying to tell him that doesn't help, it's wrong etc. And he was just like I don't care that's how we raise our children. Like why you ask for her help then? He also had all his kids glued to devices and never took them outside for family fun or exercise or anything. Such a horrible father who learnt nothing. Mum just let him do whatever...
I feel so sorry for that mother, she looks miserable and having to deal with 3 children alone must have left her without any time to rest, let alone have time to relax somehow. I don't know why she called super nanny but she was in need of help, real help. Like someone watching the kids a couple of times a week to let her get some rest and some sort of therapy for the children to figure out what is going on, she also probably would need therapy herself. Honestly? she needs a break not a camera crew following and being completely useless
With the naughty corner bit, it was just a battle of wills at that point. You can’t give in. The mom did right by going back to the corner with her kid.
If it takes 98 times it takes 98 times. You have to really get it through their heads that you’re in charge now and not them. It might take a week or so but even if you have to do it 200 times it’s worth it! It works! Kids are super stubborn but you can take back control!
It's not about control because fun fact, if you treat kids with respect and explain and shit like that you won't need control and also CLEARLY she's sending him to bed too early and she also didn't look like she was gonna even do anything but leave him in his room and not actually help him winde down
I actually really appreciate your take on thus. Over knocking her as mother over her shortcomings, you see and emphasize with rhe level of stress she has to overcome on a daily basis. It's refreshing. Being a single mother of 2 isn't easy and I'm sure it's harder for her with what looks like no one.. she likely called the nanny in a desperate attempt in a community. That's what it takes to raise our children
I just watched one of your Super Nanny episodes ten minutes ago as a first time viewer on the channel. Clearly you've psychically compelled me to be here. Cool.
Putting the boy back into bed using the method of being absolutely mechanical and unemotional will teach the boy he's not getting one spark of what he wanted. He won't be getting out of bed that many times again. And soon he'll give up.
Yeah but I think it's easy to see where this may not be "normal" for the mom and she needs psychiatric help more than a strict talking to in order to behave.
Listen, when you're a single mother to a boy, they really push the boundaries. I only have one and I've been through something similar with my boy. He wasn't as bad as this little one but still gave me a HARD time. Trying to escape from school, hitting, running away etc. I can't imagine having another 2 while trying to deal with that. There's only so much patience you have in a day and when everyday is like that, you do want to just leave! I used supernanny to help my situation and it works. Those time outs really get to the kids. Especially one with energy that can't sit still!
Wow you’re such a sweet person. 99% of people would be extremely critical of the mother and probably blame her for everything. They would blame her more than the absent father. But you’re showing so much empathy for her. What a breath of fresh air
as a parent, you couldn't be more wrong lol. doing the same thing over and over again, no matter how long it takes is the ONLY way to teach children. super nanny's techniques work whether it seems like it or not. parents not being able to be persistent is what causes bad behavior. it looks like hell because she should've started parenting correctly from sentience - 10, 12 months even depending on the kid. you reap what you sow but you CAN change.
I had two "interesting" kids. I tried the "Supernanny" techniques and they didn't work. You have to do deep work on the relationship between you and your child, and then they want to coperate with you and you start to enjoy your kids.
Look, we can judge Tara all day, but clearly something is wrong. She's pulling from an empty well and you cant expect her to fix anything when she is broken. Her husband is dead and she has three kids to care for who are at sensitive ages for this kind of thing. She doesnt seem to have support from family or friends. When a plane goes down, you have to put your own mask on first. That doesnt change even if you have a kid with you. This plane is going down and Tara is suffocating trying to fight to get her kids to wear their masks. Something has to be done to help Tara long term if she's expected to get these kids to develop long term, healthy habits.
Thank you for not just snarking on the parents and actually being empathetic towards those who struggle in life such as the mom in this episode. It’s appreciated and welcomed, that you spread some positivity for the mom’s mental health and her struggles, instead of critiquing her to do better. And yes it is likely stressful having to balance her kids constant demands on top of listening to super nanny, and you acknowledging her lashing out as a mom is a sign of stress, way more than bad parenting; because she does love her kids, is so welcoming and nice to hear, as sometimes the best intentioned people break under pressure and falter in ways they wish they didn’t or never otherwise would and I love your ability to be able to see that! So kind! ❤
I get that you don’t have kids so maybe you don’t know, but it absolutely will work with the naughty corner/step. To say that if it’s not worked after half an hour you should try something else - that’s the worst thing you can do. These kids haven’t ever been given consequences so of course it’ll take a long time the first time, the same with bed time. It will take a bit less time each time that you do it. As long as you stick with it then it will be fine. Sleep training always is hard but they take a little less time before they give you each night. the worst thing you can do is to give up and try something else because all you’re doing is reiterating to the child that as long as they tantrum for long enough then they will get their own way. You’re young so maybe you don’t get it. Also she wasn’t talking to a photo of the child - she’s talking to a mirror so she can see how she looks when speaking to the children. I’ve got 5 kids and her techniques definitely work but the key to all discipline is consistency. I’m hoping that didn’t sound harsh, because I love your videos and you always make me laugh out loud at least a couple of times per video.
In most cultures the idea of forcing kids to go to bed when they're not tired is considered not just bizarre, but a form of abuse. Most cultures get the kids to be busy all day and then the young children naturally sleep when the parents go to bed.
My mother raised me and my 3 siblings on her own and we were always helpful to her bc she worked hard and was stressed 99% of the time. The one thing she looked forward to was seeing us and i couldnt imagine making that the worst part of her day
From America and never saw this show but now I want to watch it. Ive been a therapist for 28yrs and worked with families in crisis. Mom looks so depressed and in survival mode. With boundaries its worse before it gets better the kids will test it nonstop to see if you cave. If you do it consistantly it typically gets easier but nothing will be overnight there are so many factors. Good insights!!
This one breaks me because it doesn't seem like the mother has a support system at all! Like no friends, no grandparents, no sisters, no nothing that I can see and that breaks my heart because she's clearly struggling and she needs some help.
Children weren't born evil. Parents fail to do what they're supposed to. Like 90% of these episodes are just neglect, verbal abuse and other psychological abuse.
@ZaneLikesCheese people dont realise that the hidden point of Supernanny is that the parents are in the wrong when they have kids who act like demons. Even if you can understand why the parent acts like that, a 4 year old definitely won't.
Honestly I was surprised at how insightful you were in this video! Super fun to watch and see your view where no one person is in the wrong, but also to hear you critique Super Nanny too, I do also question some things she does, I think there should be more emphasis on emotional management since the mom AND kids both blow up when things get tough. Sometimes I think parents forget that they can just talk with their kids, which I know isn't always easy but keeping your cool is important so your kids can feel calmer and more stable too
What's interesting about this particular family is that they reappear in another episode, I believe it's called The Howat Family Return. Not only do Tara's parents show up (at one point her father loses his temper which is probably where Tara got hers from) but also her boyfriend and sister. Makes me wonder where the hell they were in the first place.
Me and my brother uses to act a bit like this. But we're both autistic and looking back it was meltdowns. Our dad did nothing but shout at us or ignore us and our mum was at her wits end. I don't think supernanny I'd always the solution. It's not always the parenting. It's sometimes other things. You can't parent a kid with pda the way you would a neurological. It just isn't gonna work for example.
I doubt that if you were constantly acting like this it was always meltdowns. Keeping on biting someone or swearing at them every hour is not a meltdown. Maybe you were overwhelmed so lashing out, that is much more reasonable. So addressing you being overwhelmed and preventing you getting to the point where you either couldn't control yourself or felt like you had to let the emotions out physically, would have been the most sensible approach. Like shown here with repetition and firm boundaries the children were able to calm down and control themselves. As you mentioned your father shouted at you, which Amps up most children but even more ones who are autistic &/or struggle with anxiety. It's about not doing bad things that make a child's behaviour worse, as well as it is going good things to make thenchilds behaviour better. Of course autistic children still act up too, so regular techniques work too, you just need additional approaches. I am sorry that you and your brother had such a bad part to life and even now I assume you are trying to improve yourself it is sad you will never know how much better you could have been if you were parented better.
Came here to mention this. I can’t tell you how many things I just lived without because my parents tried to take them away as punishment. Also the insomnia is VERY real and I legit need medication for it. OT, access to stims that aren’t hitting, teaching resilience and emotional regulation, and non-verbal communication would all help way more than a time out or being put in bed repeatedly. Time outs honestly eventually led to me just putting myself in time out when we had to leave to go somewhere so my parents would be late anyways until they stopped giving time outs 🤷♀️.
Seems like there are deeper things at play here. I’d bet that Tara grew up in a similar dysfunctional home herself and that her partner was also the same when they were around.
Hey Cam, I wanted to clarify something: You commented multiple times that the extreme lengths Tara has to go to to keep Reese in bed are unfeasible in the long term. And you're right, they would be. That is, if it always took that long. The reason Reese keeps giving up is because he assumes that she'll back down at some point. That she'll give up, like you said you would have. The first time they try this, he's used to Tara being far too exhausted to fight him on it, so in his mind, all he has to do is wear her down. But if Tara is consistent and calm, eventually Reese will learn that no matter how many times he gets up, he won't get his way, and he will fight her less and less on it. Yes, the first several times she does this, it's going to be a nightmare, but in the long term, so long as she sticks to it, it will get better over time. I will agree that some of her methods, like the map, are very short-sighted, but when it comes to discipline, the techniques she's teaching Tara will actually work better the longer she uses them. It's about re-establishing authority as a parent, and getting the kids used to their actions having meaningful consequences.
This episode was actually really deep i didn't expect it to be.. let me know your opinions on it!
Also do you want me to make this a series and react to more Supernanny episodes?
Cam you are the best reporter ever ❤😂
Keep up the good work ya wee donut 🍩
Yea please 😂
I’ve been wanting this since I found your channel a few months back ❤
@@CamKirkham you should check out the wife swap program 👍. But i do like when you do super nanny 👍
Yes, do lots of Supernanny episodes. I like your insight and humor.
Sometimes it’s the parents that need her, not the kids…remember the episode where the dad called his daughter a s*ut for wearing a regular T-shirt 🫠😵
Or even one episode where the parents refused to spend any time with their younger kids outside of playing and left child rearing to the pulled-out-of-school eldest daughters, and one of the girls literally passed out due to exhaustion from not sleeping and eating properly for days
@ think you probably need legal proceedings there, never mind super nanny 😬😅. Or the episode where the dad nearly chucked super nanny out of his house for giving him advice when he was the one who called her, it’s crazy!
Think it was cause she was wearing tight pants, not the shirt, but still not okay.
@ it originally cause she was wearing a necklace then he started to criticise her top and her trousers when they were fine. Horrible man.
That’s actually insane wtf
I feel like Tara definitely has depression, the way she doesn't have the energy to do anything but will try everything to help her children, she's such an inspiration to stay motivated but she definitely needs help or therapy
Give her both of those
@@themoonlit-wolf3773no shit Tara is depressed
Yeah very flat affect 😢
@@tofu7269 Yeah I guess she had the strength to reach out for help; I only had one child and he turned out to be a shit so far. His dad is one of those; honestly I wish I had never born him
What she needs is a dad.
Respect you so much for how you spoke about the mother. I completely agree, I feel for her. As a single mother, thank you
One of the hardest jobs !!
respect to you, your amazing 💗
If your kids don't seem to appreciate you, they will. My mum was a single mum and as I've gotten older, I've been able to appreciate everything she did for me, even the tiniest things.
At the same time, she hurt them.
kids are the by product of their environment and parents so no its not the kids its the parents dummies
Tara showed every sign of being clinically depressed… I felt so sorry for her.
I agree.
I felt bad for her and the kids. When a parent has depression like that (especially if you are a single parent), it doesn’t only affect the person who has it but also affects the children. Most of them are in very important ages where they need constant attention and Tara obviously is not in the right emotional or mental state to do that for them. This can result in neglect and emotional abuse (obviously not on purpose but it doesn’t change what it is) and can have detrimental consequences on the child’s brain that will remain for the rest of their lives. It’s a very sad situation where I feel bad for the mom, but my heart especially goes out to the children who inconsequently become victims in this situation when their parent(s) are unable to fully parent and give affection
@ Yes… that’s very true.
That's part of the reason why I don't want kids. when taking care of yourself is a daily battle that feels unwinnable.... taking care of another life is THAT much harder
As a mom of two. You hit sho many points, thank for having empathy for the parents.
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If they set boundaries when they are young that would make a big problem! And if you cannot handle the ones you have don't have more!
The thing is, Reese‘s behavior is unacceptable, so the naughty corner thing has to be carried out religiously. Once she starts she CANNOT stop putting him there until he does what she wants, otherwise he’ll learn that he can still get his way eventually
yes, and the point he made about "surely it isnt working" was ill informed. changing behavior requires patience and repeated effort. they wont always get it as fast as you want them to, but its not about what you want, its about getting your kid to the level they need to be without causing them harm. leadership is about communication, understanding, and respect. every family and child is different, but we are all still able to learn from each other.
Yes exactly. In order to change the behavior the consequence must occur contingently and consistently!
Exactly!
there’s this amazing study (it’s lowkey harrowing, but it’s intellectually amazing) about how a mother’s facial expressions impact the child’s mental health and development. i THINK it’s called the still faced mothers? but Tara seriously reminds me of that study, which would explain why the eldest child is more emotionally developed, and why the younger two are… hellish. this also supports the attention theory. i wonder if the presence of another adult in the house (even just part time) would benefit Tara, because it seems like she doesn’t have any external support from the grandparents or anything. this is proper depressing…
That's interesting. Thanks for sharing, I'm going to look into that. It totally makes sense though. 😢
I’m inclined to agree. When she was handed a mirror to look at her face (not a picture as Cam thought LOL) she found it really difficult to moderate her voice and face to show enthusiasm. All her energy has been sucked out by those kids.
Yes, babies whos mothers show no emotion withdraw and don't make eye contact because they don't feel any sense of safety and security. Tone of voice is also something very young children pick up on.
Lmao every time I get on my phone my 3 year old says "why you mad, Mommy?" I always have to say I'm just thinking or concentrating. I'm really not mad or trying to look angry.
@HerHollyness yes but it's less tiring to parent them right the first time. I have a toddler and a baby and I'm tired all the time, but not like Tara. My God, I would need a caffeine IV. She's got it 100x harder than I do, with one extra kid
Love how empathetic and entertaining these videos are
I found Supernanny’s hacks helpful when I was a nanny, it’s very hard to stay consistent but it eventually pays off
In some cases I think the issues are deeper than just misbehaviour and should be looked into
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Yeah, put in the hard work before it becomes overwhelming. A strong foundation for the future. It's hard, but worth it in the end.
I'm adopted. I was an only child for 12 years, got three adopted siblings when I was 12, and three more when I was 15. I'm quite a bit older than them as well. Being the quiet behaved one because your other siblings are having meltdowns and destroying the house is so real. I've really struggled a lot with hiding in the background and not getting my parents attention, and even not getting outside attention from friends and family because I'm being quiet, so they think im fine. I'm 26 now and still struggle to open up, and often feel out of place in my own family. It's getting better but it's so refreshing to see someone recognize that the quiet kids need the attention too, it's so hard to grow up like that
six siblings in three years??? hell, no wonder the house was in an uproar, and thats before factoring in behavioral issues which are common for adoptees. it feels... irresponsible of your parents. i mean i dont know the situation, if it was an emergency, or what, but it's a lot of new children to bring into the family at once.
regardless, im really sorry you had to deal with such a chaotic home environment in your adolescence, and had to suppress yourself into that invisible kid even outside of the family. :( i cant imaigne how lonely that'd feel.
Unfortunately for parents that are struggling it’s the squeaking wheel that gets the grease. The kids making noise get the attention because they steal the attention.
That must’ve been such a HUGE adjustment, holy hell… the teen years are hard enough as it is 😭
Im so sorry you had to go through that
I have respect for people who adopt children but having 7 children at once, regardless of if they're adopted or not, just always seems like a trashy thing to do. I had 3 siblings and I'm the oldest and even growing up like that I feel like 3 is the absolute limit before you start neglecting the other children.
“Bro’s acting like he’s in Just Stop Oil” 🤣🤣🤣
I howled at that 😂😂
Same here! That commentary was so funny! 😂😂😂
Or is just stop oil acting like the toddler lol 😆
The absolute fear that this woman struck into my soul as a young girl cannot be exaggerated. "Stop doing that or I'll ring supernanny" was possibly the scariest threat you could recieve 😨🤣
You just unlocked a memory for me 😭
@@jamswiz I'm so sorry 😭
Damn that unlocked a memory…I received that threat ONCE and I was just like “go ahead”. (Super nanny didn’t get called😅)
I turned around and told my mum " i think you'd better" lol 😆
As a teacher, the absolute lack of safeguarding by these 2000s TV shows does my head in. They literally show the children in their school uniforms and the exact route they take from home to school. Every predator in the country would have known exactly where those children lived, their names, what school they went to, and that they had a single mum who finds it difficult to cope with them. It makes every instinct in my body SCREAM.
They are statistically wayy more likely to be harmed by someone they already know
Both of you are right
Kids who are loved with parents are way less likely to be kidnapped then kids who are in abusive or poverty riddled households (even more so in families who are poc)
Omg that’s such a good point! How much of this is really just adults dropping the ball????
@@gemh89Yeah but also people online or watching tv could also be a problem
As someone who has worked in childcare/child rearing, the whole naughty corner thing where yes, it does seem confusing and like a waste of time to keep repeating an action that isnt getting immediate results! but just as youve mentioned, this is a new concept that they have not learned or experienced yet, and with young children the cardinal rule is consistency is key and they will learn eventually. And while yes, an hour of this is EXCRUCIATING, it also is a fairly quick turnaround time in terms of child understanding for such a radically different way of doing things. (PS I also watched a lot of supernanny, and this is a VERY common occurrence when she implements the naughty space for the house. Almost every time the parents repeat the process for at least an hour or so, LOL)
I take it it only really works on young kids who don't receive much consistent discipline?
I think it's probably harder being a lone parent continually putting the same child back on the naughty step..at least working in childcare you have colleagues to support you and lighten the load
and what exactly does "the naughty corner" accomplish ?
these "methods" are so f*ing backwards.
What’s crazy is that this tactic worked when we were training my dogs. My male dog was a wild guy and got into EVERYTHING as a puppy, so we did time outs. You stole my shoe? Five minute time out. Stole it again? Another five minute time out. Over and over and over and it’s absolutely miserable but it worked, and he’s so incredibly well behaved four years later. I literally just have to give him a look when he’s getting into trouble and he immediately listens. I’ve never gotten physical with him, just calmly suffered through the training, and he’s really great. Not comparing dogs to kids, I can just see the logic here.
Naughty corner/step/room whatever, doesn't accomplish anything. It's not an effective method of discipline, it doesn't teach them anything!
My parents never had time for me when I was younger because my older brother has so many allergies (anaphylaxis) and he was almost dying regularly. I was told I wouldn’t cry much as a baby and I would only start crying after my parents had sorted out my brother, almost like I already knew that he was the priority.
@@VioletTheLizard I hope you feel like a priority now
I feel this, but i was that child that had all the attention. I have several chronic disabilities, and my brother must have been the same, just having to deal with life without the same support I had because my parents were focused on me. I hope you are doing well now!
Jesus. ..
I feel you - my brother was born and spent his first 6 months in intensive care and then was in and out. I went from being the centre of my parent's world to only existing in my father's eyes. My mother was overwhelmed, anorexic and just pandering to my brother with no regard to me. I stopped trying to seek her approval and only sought it from my father and grandparents - with her I was like the eldest here, present, but quiet and robotic. The problem was that he grew up unable to not be the centre of attention. He'd destroy my things to get attention from mum. Mum and Dad split up and gave us to my half-uncle to raise. We remained the respective "favourites" of our mum and father until they died.
@@catedempsey5707that’s really tough, sorry you had to go through that. For me because he’s my older brother and only sibling I’ve never known any different. I was told that I’ve slept on hospital floors and got dragged around to doctor’s appointments…unfortunately I’ve now developed OCD because I’ve never known a life without worrying about food. My dad is completely emotionally unavailable and my mum was always focused on keeping my brother alive. It can be really difficult for siblings of children who need extra care as well as growing up with a parent with disorders of their own. I hope you’re doing well.
As someone with clinically diagnosed depression, in my opinion Tara has depression and needs to see a professional for help. I say this as her behaviour, her body language, they way she speaks and replies to supper nanny with short un-emotional answers or with a huff or sigh and They way she seems empty with no energy and zombie like as you described it all fits the symptoms of depression. It's completely understandable though and honestly I think anyone in her position would struggle I definitely couldn't do what she does. It's amazing how despite this she still wakes up everyday and does what she can to help and take care of her kids. She puts them first no matter what and it's inspiring, she's so strong and I truly believe that with time, supper nannys and I think a therapist help and potentially maybe some medication I think she and her kids can live a happy, healthy lives. I wish nothing but the best to her and them 🙏
You can’t give up on discipline with kids. You won’t get anything done in the beginning. It will be exhausting. It will take months and months. There are NO shortcuts. But if you don’t do it, your kids will be unsafe, they will grow into poorly adjusted adults and they won’t feel love from their parents because the home will be a constant war zone.
Once the discipline is there, it gets easier.
yes, because you are giving a new habit and breaking the old one. those kids spent years learning to behave a certain way. 30 min is NOTHING compared to that. give them time, obviously! if you can not spend at least 40 minutes a day to teach your kids then I dont know what to tell you. if you are not present and an active part in your kids lives, dont expect them to be any different. you cant give up on them before you even give them a chance.
@@magicdolphin3090Exactly, think about how many minutes have gone into creating their bad habits! 30 minutes or a few hours is a drop in the ocean. I am also sure that there are many parents with children who turn out poorly due to poor parenting who would jump at the opportunity to go back in time and sacrifice a few hours to help their child's entire life.
You enjoyed the last supernanny episode so much hahaha had to find one even more dramatic for you
love ya donut
Thanks mate ❤
It was a longterm fix for me & my kids. The long standoffs only happened a few times at the start, where I had to prove I was the one who was in control.
They're 17 & 19 now and I couldn't be prouder of the people they are. It allowed me to parent without raising my voice, gave me back my power and kept the entire household calm ♥To be clear - I watched the show for a good bit, and then used the technique
I bet the kids are proud of you too
@@your3kidding Awww ty ♥
You speak truths. Thank you.😊
Yup. scrolled down to say this, the techniques might be frustrating at first, but the kids will realise they won't win, and it's not worth the energy just for a few seconds more out of timeout or being in bed. A lot of the families they revisited genuinely had massive improvements and I believe these techniques work well.
I wish my parents were like this! They were inconsistent on discipline, they wouldn't make it clear what I was doing wrong, and they'd go from 0 to 100 on the rage and getting WAY too harsh. Now I'm an adult with crippling anxiety, no confidence, second guessing every action, and if it weren't for my childhood cat still living with them I'd probably go no contact because they've caused me severe C-PTSD.
17:45 yeah... thats what being a parent is. Also with the time out, yes, in the beginning it may take 400 attempts to get them to stay in time out, but the 5th month of doing it that way every single time, they will learn that you arent going to give in and it will work. Same with the bed time. It works, just not the first time.
I'd be interested in seeing you react to the Chapman Family episode. Another completely different episode as it's the daughters who call Supernanny on the Parents
I have a faint memory (I think from this same season of Supernanny) of a family who I think had lost a child to SIDS, and their remaining son was so badly behaved that they couldn't even do a naughty step with him. I think they were called the Smith-Clarke family or something like that, you should totally react to that one because frankly I think it' the wildest one out there!
Ithink she’s just on autopilot. Poor woman is drained emotionally and physically it’s like she’s just shut down
Terrified of children, would rather try to fight a bear
I just want to know how you’d find yourself in a situation where these were the only two outcomes
@@CamKirkham Easy, you bump into kids on a school trip to your local woods, and a bear appears when you turn the other way
I had a holiday job while I was at College, 'monitoring' a group of 9 boys, around 11-12 years old. The 'posh' ones were the worst behaved. Usually took an hour to settle them down once in bed.
Reading a story usually worked (story suitable for their age), along with threats to withhold activities as an extreme measure.
It was exhausting, but the worst behaved were the ones who seemed saddest to be leaving. I did three holidays, three different groups of children. Always the same.
Children need discipline, and boundaries.
@CamKirkham school trip to a zoo. All sorts of unexpected shit happens then. Like the time two of my friends saw some rhinos shagging. I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up in a situation on a school trip to the zoo where it was either deal with a child or fight a bear
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Cam’s channel is like a nice safe space on RUclips, he’s just so wholesome and empathetic, I love watching
It's actually so nice and such a change watching someone having empathy for the parent. You seem like a really kind person, and seeing the mum as a human being ❤ Also really enjoyed watching this, great work 😊
"THANK YOU CAM!" we all say in unison
Cam really said: “You lovely doughnuts are in a ‘What to Watch at mealtimes?’ Crisis. I’m on my way.”
i feel like cam would more likely say "i'm on ME way!" lmfaoo
10:00 this is actually like a super good take, these kids are essentially being abused, verbally and physically, and the kids hurt her back as this is all they know, as it what’s they’ve been taught. it’s a cycle
But perhaps Tara only started responding in aggressive ways because the kids did it first. It's completely natural to end up responding aggressively when people are being aggressive towards you over and over again.
It's obviously not right, but it's natural.
I honestly think Tara was quite restrained...I probably would have ended up seriously hurting them...or letting Reece run under a car because I'd given up caring and just wanted the stress he constantly caused to be over in any way possible.
Regret would have come later, but in the moment, I wouldn't have given a crap.
I have zero patience with kids like this.
Luckily my children were really fantastic most of the time and were an absolute joy and pleasure to bring up.
@ children do not just start behaviour, social learning theory, behaviour is seen and copied. they will not learn to be agressive without seeing that happen first. admitting you would let a child die is a pretty horrible thing to say??? you should genuinely consider getting therapy or other mental health help if you would let a child die simply cause they’re annoying you. that’s beyond fucked up
@@tee-ee1ow Yes, I understand all that, but it's not always just 'learned behaviour'. Sometimes it's genetic.
The very fact that her oldest child was perfectly nice and well behaved should tell us something.
It's extremely important (for all of us!) for people to be open and honest about what they could be driven to when they are constantly under attack.
Not everybody can handle that amount of stress. That's just a fact. So there is no point in pretending otherwise.
It wouldn't have been a conscious decision to let a child die (which is not something I would ever want to do). It would have been a desperate moment where I couldn't cope and just wanted everything to stop.
@ there is zero excuse for saying you would let a child die in any circumstances at all. as an abuse survivor i will not sit and hear the same rhetoric i heard whole being abused. there is zero excuse for admitting you would let a child die under your care, zero. also basic psychology, which i am studying, children’s behaviour is learnt. chikdren do not know how to be this level of aggressive without seeing this behaviour beforehand. that’s a basic fact. her eldest was parented differently it’s quite blatantly obvious, eldest children are always raised to different standards. she is also a different age to the rest, which would have impacted her development differently to the other two. a year can be extremely important to development.
so don’t you ever dare try and admit to me you would let a child die under your care because you woudlnt parent them properly. what a disguting thing to say. if you are driven to let a child die you should seek immediate help. whatever lead you to believe that is fine is wrong. i hope your children are at an age where they can be safe and far far away from you
@@letsrock1729it is quite literally, IMPOSSIBLE, for a child to express new behaviours with Zero outside influence from the world around them. A sociopath is not born, they are made. This women has made her child like that, simple as. This isn’t a moral argument, it is a known fact that it’s impossible for a child to express any new behaviour, however they act is due to their environment
Your commentary is really fair and empathetic, something that a lot of these naughties reality shows were missing at the time when they aired.
Don't underestimate the power of talking! Speaking from experience with a family that only knows small talk, it is so important! I am 35, still can't talk to my parents about serious things like my feelings etc. Been in therapy for 3 years now, still don't know how to do that because the subconscious learned behaviour of "not talking about things" is so strong.
13:45 I see why you say that, but this is why so many parents give up. You keep going and going and going. Eventually the child realizes that you will never give up. After a few weeks of absolute hell, the child will STAY in that naughty corner, learn accountability, learn to apologize and hugs and kisses always come after so the child will still feel that unconditional love.
True, you’ll get absolutely nothing done at first, but eventually you will because the child will learn manners and basic decency.
Putting them back in the naughty corner over and over and over again eventually shows the child who is in control. The thing with this show was what the parents did when Supernanny went that was interesting.
One thing I’ve always wondered about is what Supernanny was like when the cameras weren’t rolling, what do others think?
I don't trust her. i wouldn't even let her dog-sit.
Yes exactly, it isn't just about the end result of the child staying in the corner but each time they get out back they are learning that they have to do what their mother tells them and they will face consequences for their bad behaviour.
There's a reason why you don't get single parent swans. It's a full time job raising kids - and then some
Cam speaks like someone who isn't a dad but has a good heart and empathy. Sadly those things don't raise kids
I feel so bad for Kacey, as the eldest daught3r, 4 younger, my heart really goes out to her. It's so hard knowing You'll never get the most attention no matter how good you behave because of your little siblings. It's really sad aswell that she's come to terms with the fact she's not going to get much attention.
Repetition is key with correcting behaviors. You are suprised it took 98 times to get him in bed but how many times did he get away with it before that night? 2 hours is nothing compared to how many hours of programming in his brain needed to be undone. If you try to mix it up after 3 times they wont learn anything. This is actually the best thing super nanny does for the family because she sits with them for the most grueling part and it gets less grueling every time after that. Trust is lesrned through consistency.
Exactly, he's probably had 2000 hours of being allowed to misbehave before then.
Also, when you do the timeout for the first time and you start implementing this plan, it's a battle of the wills. If you give up and 'try something else' you've lost the war...
Duct tape will ensure a flawless victory.👍
Exactly, if you give up it shows the child that they can just act poorly and you will cave, it also shows you are a poor leader who the child is Les inclined to respect.
Now that child knows all they need to do is piss you off until you give up. You’re the adult and must be a wall
Cam being so kind and concerned for the moms mental health and care is so sweet
I do feel sorry for Tara in this episode. I remember reading somewhere that the father of her kids died which makes sense as to why Tara is like this. She is obviously depressed and is struggling to not only cope with looking after her kids by herself but also grieve for the loss of her partner.
Yeah, I did a bit of parental bereavement and the effects it has on kids in college, and one of the big things was making sure the adults had a support system for their grief so they could support the kids. You cant pull from an empty well after all.
I remember as a kid telling my grandma (who was my guardian) that I missed my dad and she shot back that "he was my son too, and I dont get time to cry about it" in this bitter tone. It wrecked me and wasnt good for a grieving kid to hear, but in hindsight I can also understand that she was hurting and unsupported. It doesnt make what she said okay, but we cant expect an adult to be perfect when they're going through something like that without some sort of give.
@@Wandervenn my mum died when I was 11 and all I got from my dad when I tried expressing that I missed her or was struggling was "life goes on" and that was it. He had about as much empathy as a brick.
@katbagley3214 I dont think that goes against my point to be fair. Or maybe I dont understand what your point is meant to be.
@Wandervenn showing understanding for childhood grief and not having support. But based on the attitude I probably shouldn't have bothered.
@@katbagley3214 What attitude? Dude I'm literally just confused as to what you're trying to say. You're not really writing in complete sentences so I'm left to try to figure out the context based on assumption.
Ive been in this situation 3 kids under 10. All with autism and adhd. I decided I needed to change my mindset. I was always scared of school holudays, bc the boys behaviour was horrendous. I took my 2 youngest out of school they were not coping. There are loads of hime school groups u could do 4 a day if u wanted to. Eventually I took my eldest out. The children also had PTSD frim my abusive ex husband, which now they are 31 29 and 25 we are still working with. But over time doing lessons making them fun, they imorived to the amazing people they are today. Eldest is a swordsman and does tournaments, the other does mountain bijubg and airsoft. My daughter struggles but is a self learner and has great intelligence I was told by doctors they would never be able to do anything. They do so much. So proud of them xxx
Cam.. I just wanted to say how refreshing you are. I love the commentary RUclips space but I've had to stop following some creators because they exclusively bash and try to cancel people. It's always "this person said this and now they basically deserve to die." (Note I'm not saying that we shouldn't call people out on their bs)
But they way you approach topics is extremely respectful. You always look at it from both sides with empathy and give fair and constructive criticism. Your kindness really shines through ❤
Since you watched the one with the worst kids, you need to watch the one with the worst parents, the ones that force their fourteen and sixteen year old daughters to homeschool so they can spend all their time babysitting their younger brothers. Very depressing episode, the Chapman Family, I believe it is.
Tara could almost do with some respite care, like they sometimes do for parents of kids with severe care needs. Just to give her a bit of time to reset and focus on herself, and maybe being looked after by someone else for a bit might help the kids appreciate their mum more
She needs support from friends and family. It would be basically impossible for her to access respite care through the council and it might be cost prohibitive for her on her own.
I hate to tell you but these methods 100% work. It looks brutal but you need to persist with it. I promise you minor miracles occur if you stay strong.
It's all about consistency and following though. Never threaten the child with a punishment you are unprepared to follow through with and don't promise them a reward they won't get to get a moment's peace. She told him he had to stay in the naughty spot and made sure he did no matter how hard he made it.
When you've got behavior issues like Reese's, you really DO have to celebrate the "small" wins like keeping your cool on the 98th time of putting your kid back to bed.
One of my family friends went on one of the supernanny type shows (her kid was later found to be neurodivergent) and EVERYTHING was blamed on her parenting. It's made me take shows like this with a huge pinch of salt, especially when supernanny treats the kids like the devil. They are possibly acting out cos theres a whole film crew in their house and they're neurodivergent, and their parents are the "safe people" that they know won't abandon them.
Editing cos of replies: I'm not debating that parents are responsible for their kids behaviour lmao, I'm a parent myself I fully agree with that. But when "professionals" are not considering other options than lazy parenting or a lack of discipline when kids are displaying very clear signs of autism or ADHD, I remember that they're making a TV show and don't take what they say as gospel. That's all 🤗
In one episode where the boy was known to be ADHD, supernanny was extremely nice to him and was more of helping his parents to understand the boy rather than demonising the child for him acting out
I have often seen episodes where supernanny just focuses on the parents because she knows that it _is_ the parent so does not treat the child as evil. In many, she even makes activities where the child is encouraged to say how they feel to the parent because of her knowing that the child just needs support
Other shows that aren't this exact supernanny are unreliable though because they aren't under British TV laws, where in England you can't stage things and lie to people so you know that Jo is professionally trained
@@Sh12pen The thing is, outside of genuine congenital disorders, children aren't just _born_ 'evil'. It really does come down to bad parenting an overwhelming majority of the time.
The problem is that there seems to be some sort of social taboo against calling out bad parenting or actually placing blame on parents for how they've raised their children to behave. No parent ever wants to accept responsibility, usually making remarks like "don't tell me how to raise my child!!". We're supposed to pretend parents are infallible and that their child's misbehaviour must be the result of mystical intervention from some sort of malevolent higher power.
These parents apply for the show because they want validation. They want Supernanny to come and 'fix the child' when again, the majority of the time, it's the parents themselves (or more so their methods) that need fixing.
It's like how people will call Gordon Ramsay to come fix their restaurant yet will flip out the moment he dares to suggest it's their food that's the problem.
The thing people don't seem to understand about parenting is that there are so many ways you can fuck it up that aren't easily apparent or the symptoms of which will take years to appear. The consensus seems to be that so long as you're not doing anything that will get authorities to take your child away (like blatant abuse) then you're doing a great job and cannot be criticised in any way.
I literally just made a comment like this. I was like I wonder if Supernanny ever behind-the-scenes tell these parents that they should see a specialist. Apparently not. That is so sad.
@@Sh12pen it was a British show she was on, I can't remember the name of it but it was on the BBC. I def agree that some issues are caused or made worse by negative parenting skills (I think parenting classes should be mandatory tbh), but in my opinion some of these kids are clearly struggling with something more than just "not enough discipline" or "wanting attention please ignore them till they behave", and that's why I personally don't trust their judgement. I know that our friend didn't get offered any support to help with her parenting even though they spent the whole show blaming her. And that was the BBC, in the UK, so I don't trust them. But everyone's entitled to an opinion ☺️
This is why I can't have kids, I know I couldn't handle this.
The easiest way of dealing with this is not having it happen in the first place. Prevent the behaviour before it happens
Trust me, you probably do not. You never know what you're going to get. It is not just nurture. Genetics (nature) can kick your ass. I wanted kids, didn't think I could have them, surprise at 29 I was pregnant, and yea, my child is non-speaking, autistic, ADHD, and recently had a seizure at age 7. I'm really depressed (granted, I have had MDD since I was a kid), and it is really hard.
Probably just get a nice pet. 😊
@androgynylunacy hey I know you're struggling but think about how your kid would feel if they read this comment when they're older or even just right now because all I'm getting is "oh I'm a burden and my mom wishes she never had me" thankfully I haven't had a seizure but I myself have autism and ADHD (I have been diagnosed since 6) among many other physical issues which is typical and genetically linked with autism. And uh we don't appreciate be talked about like that. And if you feel that way then yeah you should have never had a child. You don't love them despite, you love them because.
@@androgynylunacy I get that kids can be hard, but be careful your kid never hears those thoughts.
Because the idea that you are a burden and the fear of not being a burden are very easy to ingrain in a child and once they’re there, it’ll take them years to untangle themselves from those self hating ideas.
I can honestly say single parenthood is really hard but we fight every day for our children ❤
Keep going 🙌🏻❤️
I think the point of going through with Rhys for the hour+ just to get him to politely ask for a drink, is so when this practice is repeated it will take less time - it's not intended to work overnight. This is the same with the 98 times to get him to go to bed; next time it might be 88, then after that 78...it's gone take a while but Tara is proving to them that she can't be ignored - no amount of ignoring commands will make her give up. Tara has amazing patience and obviously cares for her kids, but it's at a breaking point where this show is like a last resort, hope it worked out well for her.
18:18 “Let’s do it together” EXACTLY. That’s what she wanted the entire time. Help, not some lady to tell her everything she’s doing wrong.
just got home from school and cam’s just posted. life is good.
Thanks Cam, You rlly helped me through a hard time so I'm rlly thankful for your content ❤️❤️❤️🍩🍩🍩
I love how u add such empathetic and insightful commentary, it really sets u apart from other RUclipsrs in this genre in the best way❤️ love ur videosss
it's so important to have empathy like you do... it's so extremely difficult to have kids on your own, and it's so stressful and painful to have your kids treat you that way and not have a break. The depression and pain she must be in is so sad. And her kids not having their other parent is also so hard for them.
Nanny-cam ... if you had a show where you were a nanny why would you call it anything else? 😂😂
Huge amount of respect for you Cam. You were so open minded and respectful throughout this whole video. Not judgemental in the slightest 👏
My mother once said to me “being a parent is a thankless job”
I didn’t understand that until I became a parent myself. You can do everything for your child and it’s still not enough to them.
Never forget the episode where she was in the U.S and the father beat his intellectually disabled child with a belt. And Nanny was so upset, trying to tell him that doesn't help, it's wrong etc. And he was just like I don't care that's how we raise our children. Like why you ask for her help then?
He also had all his kids glued to devices and never took them outside for family fun or exercise or anything. Such a horrible father who learnt nothing. Mum just let him do whatever...
I feel so sorry for that mother, she looks miserable and having to deal with 3 children alone must have left her without any time to rest, let alone have time to relax somehow. I don't know why she called super nanny but she was in need of help, real help. Like someone watching the kids a couple of times a week to let her get some rest and some sort of therapy for the children to figure out what is going on, she also probably would need therapy herself. Honestly? she needs a break not a camera crew following and being completely useless
With the naughty corner bit, it was just a battle of wills at that point. You can’t give in. The mom did right by going back to the corner with her kid.
If it takes 98 times it takes 98 times. You have to really get it through their heads that you’re in charge now and not them. It might take a week or so but even if you have to do it 200 times it’s worth it! It works! Kids are super stubborn but you can take back control!
It's not about control because fun fact, if you treat kids with respect and explain and shit like that you won't need control and also CLEARLY she's sending him to bed too early and she also didn't look like she was gonna even do anything but leave him in his room and not actually help him winde down
I actually really appreciate your take on thus. Over knocking her as mother over her shortcomings, you see and emphasize with rhe level of stress she has to overcome on a daily basis. It's refreshing. Being a single mother of 2 isn't easy and I'm sure it's harder for her with what looks like no one.. she likely called the nanny in a desperate attempt in a community. That's what it takes to raise our children
I just watched one of your Super Nanny episodes ten minutes ago as a first time viewer on the channel. Clearly you've psychically compelled me to be here. Cool.
Fun fact: Nick Frost of Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead narrates these old episodes 🎉 no luck catching them kids then
Its just the one kid actually
why is the little one so filled with rage that "NOTHING" had the hate full of 6 generations past of evil little children
Not enough of the right consequences for such sickening behaviour.
That Just stop oil comment was hilarious 😂
This is a heartbreaking episode but I enjoyed seeing cams response to this episode. When I watched this episode I genuinely found it mind numbing
Putting the boy back into bed using the method of being absolutely mechanical and unemotional will teach the boy he's not getting one spark of what he wanted. He won't be getting out of bed that many times again. And soon he'll give up.
Supernanny talks to the mum like a child, because she needs to be taught how to behave, just as the children do.
Yeah but I think it's easy to see where this may not be "normal" for the mom and she needs psychiatric help more than a strict talking to in order to behave.
Why just "donuts" and not "beautiful donuts"??? ARE WE NOT BEAUTIFUL ANYMORE CAM 😂😂
I noticed that. Are not beautiful?!😢
Listen, when you're a single mother to a boy, they really push the boundaries. I only have one and I've been through something similar with my boy. He wasn't as bad as this little one but still gave me a HARD time. Trying to escape from school, hitting, running away etc. I can't imagine having another 2 while trying to deal with that. There's only so much patience you have in a day and when everyday is like that, you do want to just leave! I used supernanny to help my situation and it works. Those time outs really get to the kids. Especially one with energy that can't sit still!
the sex of a child doesn't dictate how a kid acts.
@alr3764 it does 99% of the time
@@Internal_InvestigationNot really, no.
@@Internal_Investigation because society reinforces girly girls and rough boys
Wow you’re such a sweet person. 99% of people would be extremely critical of the mother and probably blame her for everything. They would blame her more than the absent father. But you’re showing so much empathy for her. What a breath of fresh air
as a parent, you couldn't be more wrong lol. doing the same thing over and over again, no matter how long it takes is the ONLY way to teach children. super nanny's techniques work whether it seems like it or not. parents not being able to be persistent is what causes bad behavior. it looks like hell because she should've started parenting correctly from sentience - 10, 12 months even depending on the kid. you reap what you sow but you CAN change.
Excellent documentary on contraceptives this is.
I’m so happy cam did another video on super nanny 🎉
Wonder if supernanny knows how to fix this guys teeth
I wonder……?????🤨🤨
It's okay cam, my grandad has none 💀
His teeth are perfectly fine
real
Who’s teeth
I had two "interesting" kids. I tried the "Supernanny" techniques and they didn't work. You have to do deep work on the relationship between you and your child, and then they want to coperate with you and you start to enjoy your kids.
There’s no such thing as a bad child. Just a bad parent /child who desperately needs therapy
Look, we can judge Tara all day, but clearly something is wrong.
She's pulling from an empty well and you cant expect her to fix anything when she is broken. Her husband is dead and she has three kids to care for who are at sensitive ages for this kind of thing. She doesnt seem to have support from family or friends.
When a plane goes down, you have to put your own mask on first. That doesnt change even if you have a kid with you. This plane is going down and Tara is suffocating trying to fight to get her kids to wear their masks.
Something has to be done to help Tara long term if she's expected to get these kids to develop long term, healthy habits.
Thank you for not just snarking on the parents and actually being empathetic towards those who struggle in life such as the mom in this episode. It’s appreciated and welcomed, that you spread some positivity for the mom’s mental health and her struggles, instead of critiquing her to do better. And yes it is likely stressful having to balance her kids constant demands on top of listening to super nanny, and you acknowledging her lashing out as a mom is a sign of stress, way more than bad parenting; because she does love her kids, is so welcoming and nice to hear, as sometimes the best intentioned people break under pressure and falter in ways they wish they didn’t or never otherwise would and I love your ability to be able to see that! So kind! ❤
I love your empathy towards parents. It is not easy
That poor little boy, he’s been called a bad kid for so long that it’s now a part of his personality
I get that you don’t have kids so maybe you don’t know, but it absolutely will work with the naughty corner/step. To say that if it’s not worked after half an hour you should try something else - that’s the worst thing you can do. These kids haven’t ever been given consequences so of course it’ll take a long time the first time, the same with bed time. It will take a bit less time each time that you do it. As long as you stick with it then it will be fine. Sleep training always is hard but they take a little less time before they give you each night. the worst thing you can do is to give up and try something else because all you’re doing is reiterating to the child that as long as they tantrum for long enough then they will get their own way. You’re young so maybe you don’t get it. Also she wasn’t talking to a photo of the child - she’s talking to a mirror so she can see how she looks when speaking to the children. I’ve got 5 kids and her techniques definitely work but the key to all discipline is consistency. I’m hoping that didn’t sound harsh, because I love your videos and you always make me laugh out loud at least a couple of times per video.
Yeah exactly, well said.
0:50 reminds me of the most infamous episode of the german version of the Super Nanny where a 5 year old (!!!!!) knew the c-word.
In most cultures the idea of forcing kids to go to bed when they're not tired is considered not just bizarre, but a form of abuse. Most cultures get the kids to be busy all day and then the young children naturally sleep when the parents go to bed.
My mother raised me and my 3 siblings on her own and we were always helpful to her bc she worked hard and was stressed 99% of the time. The one thing she looked forward to was seeing us and i couldnt imagine making that the worst part of her day
From America and never saw this show but now I want to watch it. Ive been a therapist for 28yrs and worked with families in crisis. Mom looks so depressed and in survival mode. With boundaries its worse before it gets better the kids will test it nonstop to see if you cave. If you do it consistantly it typically gets easier but nothing will be overnight there are so many factors. Good insights!!
It’s really fun to watch a 45 minute advert on why it is a bad idea to have kids.
This one breaks me because it doesn't seem like the mother has a support system at all! Like no friends, no grandparents, no sisters, no nothing that I can see and that breaks my heart because she's clearly struggling and she needs some help.
Earlyyyy. What brilliant timing Cam thank you ❤
Children weren't born evil. Parents fail to do what they're supposed to. Like 90% of these episodes are just neglect, verbal abuse and other psychological abuse.
If i behave like this then i would be pooping out my teeth 😂😂
im sorry that your parents abuse you
@@alr3764and it's sad that it's normalised and laughed off and kids deserving it
@ZaneLikesCheese people dont realise that the hidden point of Supernanny is that the parents are in the wrong when they have kids who act like demons. Even if you can understand why the parent acts like that, a 4 year old definitely won't.
@alr3764 yes they did. But that's 👍
Honestly I was surprised at how insightful you were in this video! Super fun to watch and see your view where no one person is in the wrong, but also to hear you critique Super Nanny too, I do also question some things she does, I think there should be more emphasis on emotional management since the mom AND kids both blow up when things get tough. Sometimes I think parents forget that they can just talk with their kids, which I know isn't always easy but keeping your cool is important so your kids can feel calmer and more stable too
Thank you sm for this! I totally agree with your point as well
What's interesting about this particular family is that they reappear in another episode, I believe it's called The Howat Family Return. Not only do Tara's parents show up (at one point her father loses his temper which is probably where Tara got hers from) but also her boyfriend and sister. Makes me wonder where the hell they were in the first place.
Angry parent, angry child. They're a direct reflection of their parent.
Me and my brother uses to act a bit like this. But we're both autistic and looking back it was meltdowns. Our dad did nothing but shout at us or ignore us and our mum was at her wits end.
I don't think supernanny I'd always the solution. It's not always the parenting. It's sometimes other things. You can't parent a kid with pda the way you would a neurological. It just isn't gonna work for example.
Honestly I can relate to you
in your case though, it does seem like it's because of your parents.
I doubt that if you were constantly acting like this it was always meltdowns. Keeping on biting someone or swearing at them every hour is not a meltdown. Maybe you were overwhelmed so lashing out, that is much more reasonable. So addressing you being overwhelmed and preventing you getting to the point where you either couldn't control yourself or felt like you had to let the emotions out physically, would have been the most sensible approach. Like shown here with repetition and firm boundaries the children were able to calm down and control themselves. As you mentioned your father shouted at you, which Amps up most children but even more ones who are autistic &/or struggle with anxiety. It's about not doing bad things that make a child's behaviour worse, as well as it is going good things to make thenchilds behaviour better.
Of course autistic children still act up too, so regular techniques work too, you just need additional approaches.
I am sorry that you and your brother had such a bad part to life and even now I assume you are trying to improve yourself it is sad you will never know how much better you could have been if you were parented better.
*bad start to life
Came here to mention this. I can’t tell you how many things I just lived without because my parents tried to take them away as punishment. Also the insomnia is VERY real and I legit need medication for it.
OT, access to stims that aren’t hitting, teaching resilience and emotional regulation, and non-verbal communication would all help way more than a time out or being put in bed repeatedly.
Time outs honestly eventually led to me just putting myself in time out when we had to leave to go somewhere so my parents would be late anyways until they stopped giving time outs 🤷♀️.
Seems like there are deeper things at play here. I’d bet that Tara grew up in a similar dysfunctional home herself and that her partner was also the same when they were around.
Love the super nanny series so much! Cant wait to see more
Hey Cam, I wanted to clarify something:
You commented multiple times that the extreme lengths Tara has to go to to keep Reese in bed are unfeasible in the long term. And you're right, they would be. That is, if it always took that long. The reason Reese keeps giving up is because he assumes that she'll back down at some point. That she'll give up, like you said you would have. The first time they try this, he's used to Tara being far too exhausted to fight him on it, so in his mind, all he has to do is wear her down. But if Tara is consistent and calm, eventually Reese will learn that no matter how many times he gets up, he won't get his way, and he will fight her less and less on it. Yes, the first several times she does this, it's going to be a nightmare, but in the long term, so long as she sticks to it, it will get better over time. I will agree that some of her methods, like the map, are very short-sighted, but when it comes to discipline, the techniques she's teaching Tara will actually work better the longer she uses them. It's about re-establishing authority as a parent, and getting the kids used to their actions having meaningful consequences.
Just came home from doing my final maths exam, was about to cry then saw cam posted and the sad tears were happy tears