Hey Mr. Mitsubishi, great video. Thank you for doing a video on an often overlooked subject. I was wondering if you can talk about the 10 year lithium ion battery limited warranty. Why is it limited and what it is limited to? I've heard that to replace a hybrid battery can be quite expensive, in some cases up to $12K - $15K. That said, for example if for some reason the battery dies in year 7, am I covered by the 10 year lithium ion battery limited warranty? In this example, does Mitsubishi provide me a new lithium ion battery installed with all materials and labour, free of charge? Can you kindly please advise. Thank you.
The US manual direct from Mitsubishi says every 6 months or 7,500 miles under "normal" conditions. If you drive in more severe conditions its every 3,750 or 3 months. Even for severe that seems like a LOT of oil changes.
Hello. I have a couplequestions here: 1) How often CVT fluid should be replaced? 2) Does CVT have replaceable filter? 3) What brand of CVT Mitsubishi using (its own or Nissan)? 4) What fuel octane Mitsubishi Outlander phev recommended (87 or 91)? Thank you.
I heard in Australia that the same vehicle oil change interval is 15000 km or 12 months, which makes more sense. Here, seems like Mitsubishi is trying to make extra $$$ especially every 5 and not 6 months time interval, LOL
Yes 'fvl1210' I fully agree with you, here is Australia for 2023 Outlander PHEV the service interval is 12 months and the mileage interval is every 15,000km. One can argue the weather patterns are different in these two countries, however, good point for a debate😊
Thanks for this. I've been thinking about the oil change interval since we got our PHEV a few months ago. 8000 km is a normal interval for a gas engine, but the gas engine in my PHEV only runs very occasionally, probably about 25% of the time on average (only on longer trips since our daily commute is handled 100% by the drive battery). So even though my odometer is showing 8000 km, there's only 2000 km on the engine itself. Seems like a waste of money to get an oil change that often, and probably to no real benefit for the vehicle. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
On the surface it may seem like waste of money - however, oil goes bad 2 ways - due to engine running and due to time passing. So even though engine is not running, it still goes bad with time hence has to be replaced
@@mr.mitsubishi The issue isn't the calendar time directly, it's the many short runs. Which are less likely to allow the engine to get hot enough to dissipate the contaminants in the crankcase. Bearings soaked in contaminants can pit even if the engine doesn't run at all. That would be the engineering theory. The cynical theory is that the 5 month recommendation will generate more income for the dealers.
Is there anything recording how long or how many km's the engine was on for? Driving 8000kms is fine, but likely the engine has only been on for 3000 of those. How is that dealt with?
Thanks for the great video Sir! I visited North Van Mitsubishi this week to explore the 2024 Outlander PHEV GT-P. Unfortunately, they not only apply a markup but also include additional accessory packages. The pre-tax cost amounts to nearly $63,000 before tax and rebates. Moreover, I was informed that all services must be performed exclusively at the dealership to maintain the 10-year warranties. Can you verify the accuracy of this claim? Additionally, they are offering a service package priced at around $8,000. This significantly raises the total cost of the car, making it considerably higher than the Tesla Model Y. I would appreciate your insights on the maintenance costs and warranties associated with this vehicle. Thank you!
What about cvt trans fluid services? That is very important to me and I am wondering if dealers would be able to do that on the phev model? Debating this car since I want to know for a fact they will be able to do that.
In the UK my 2014 2.0 phev has had an oil change every 8000 miles from when I bought it at 58900 miles (95k Km approx) it is now on 328,500 miles! Running very well too. Needs a new battery though. That is down to 50% :( still in daily use as a taxi
Thanks for information, I bought my unit from cambridge mitsubishi, after driving about 1000km I realize the crooked steering wheel slightly to right. Will they fix this?
@@mr.mitsubishi they are not even recognizing this. My bad luck is I bought the vehicle from them. They dont even have allignment checker setup in workshop
Drive it normally and the first portion of brake pedal travel activates regeneration - hence, less brake pad and rotor wear. Not much need for paddles. Some users are reporting that Innovative Pedal actually increases friction braking, which will increase pad and rotor wear, and decrease battery range.
Thank you for your comment. The innovative pedal in theory shouldn't decrease the EV range.. It brakes with motors and is charging the battery as it does so.
@@mr.mitsubishiI thought the Innovative Pedal uses the regen brakes but also the friction brakes. It is my understanding that the paddles increase the use of the regen brakes but not the friction brakes.
Brake pads will vary depending on the type of driving among other factors. Check them every time you do oil changes and if they are worn, replace them.
thats the reason why BEV makes so much sense: no maintenance required, at leased for Teslas :-) are you KIDDING?!?! every 5 months change the Oil?!?! our current 2019 PHEV has 20.000 km or 12 months maintenance (Germany) schedule (incl. oil change) - I’ve expected Mitusibishi is able to improve this, but this is an absolute show stopper!
A chart about this stuff when you sold the outlander would have been nice. Like you said. No info on any of this was given when I went to pick up mine. Something to think about in the future.
I found that I rarely had to rotate the tires on my previous PHEV. I would measure the tread depth to make sure. The dealership would often say they didn't need rotating. I think because the car is always using both front and back motors they wear evenly.
I would still rotate every 8000km. Remember you turn your front wheels and drive on uneven roads. For example you drive in the right lane your vehicle will be on a slant, thus more weight on the right side of the vehicle. Definitely recommend rotating :) wont hurt.
Thanks for the video. Im having a problem with my head unit and carplay (wireless or wired). Sometimes when you start the vehicle it doesnt automatically go to carplay and the carplay button will be unresponsive. Ive also had issues where all music and sounds will leave the car stereo and start playing back on the phone. HELP
Hello Mr. Mitsubishi there is an odd warning to my Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV after starting the car: "consuming old fuel, engine stops after refueling 20L or more". What does is mean & how can I fix this?
I only got the car & the dealership told me that they just full tank the car but then on the day that I will pick it up that odd warning came out, the mechanic told me it would be alright after consuming 20L but still I am nearing the empty & still the odd warning didn't disappear. Is it okay to empty it then fill it up after?
If battery is too full (above 50%) you can't stay in EV mode while using B3,B4,B5. Excess regen coming from brakes is dissipated by motor. Weird way to deal with such a thing, but hey, it works.
As a resident of SF bay area in CA, Mitsubishi cars is almost nowhere to be seen. I am highly interested in Outlander PHEV and seriously considering buying it. However, the major information about this car I am getting now is from your youtube channel. U.S Mitsubishi is not doing their job at all. I think Mitsubishi should give you a promotion and make you in charge the north American market. I am really sorry to see that Mitsubishi”s California market is dying.
I think it would be useful to clearly state that there is no transmission, therefore no transmission oil, no transmission filter. Many reviews of this vehicle think there is a CVT transmission, obviously wrong. Also, you mention rotate the tires, but you do not state in what order to rotate the tires, clockwise? Counterclockwise? Front-to-back? Crosswise (right rear to left front etc.)
Hey Mr. Mitsubishi, great video. Thank you for doing a video on an often overlooked subject. I was wondering if you can talk about the 10 year lithium ion battery limited warranty. Why is it limited and what it is limited to? I've heard that to replace a hybrid battery can be quite expensive, in some cases up to $12K - $15K. That said, for example if for some reason the battery dies in year 7, am I covered by the 10 year lithium ion battery limited warranty? In this example, does Mitsubishi provide me a new lithium ion battery installed with all materials and labour, free of charge? Can you kindly please advise. Thank you.
The US manual direct from Mitsubishi says every 6 months or 7,500 miles under "normal" conditions. If you drive in more severe conditions its every 3,750 or 3 months. Even for severe that seems like a LOT of oil changes.
Exactly. I wonder where that 5 months comes from... ?
I've been following you since we started shopping for a PHEV. Another great video! Thanks!
Hello. I have a couplequestions here:
1) How often CVT fluid should be replaced?
2) Does CVT have replaceable filter?
3) What brand of CVT Mitsubishi using (its own or Nissan)?
4) What fuel octane Mitsubishi Outlander phev recommended (87 or 91)?
Thank you.
Where is the cabin air filter located? Could not find any reference in the Owner's Manual ???? or did I not know where to look . Please advise .
I heard in Australia that the same vehicle oil change interval is 15000 km or 12 months, which makes more sense. Here, seems like Mitsubishi is trying to make extra $$$ especially every 5 and not 6 months time interval, LOL
There shouldn't be difference on interval.. Maybe that's for gas version? It's different interval for gas.
@@mr.mitsubishi I posted a link in other post. It's clear mentioned 2023 outlander PHEV.
Yes 'fvl1210' I fully agree with you, here is Australia for 2023 Outlander PHEV the service interval is 12 months and the mileage interval is every 15,000km. One can argue the weather patterns are different in these two countries, however, good point for a debate😊
imagine you‘re driving very often EV-only and have to change oil every 6 months - what a joke and what a bad story regarding environmental Protection…
@@airestocky Exactly. I'm 95% ev driving so far. Changing that oil every 5 months sounds so ridiculous.
Thanks for this. I've been thinking about the oil change interval since we got our PHEV a few months ago. 8000 km is a normal interval for a gas engine, but the gas engine in my PHEV only runs very occasionally, probably about 25% of the time on average (only on longer trips since our daily commute is handled 100% by the drive battery). So even though my odometer is showing 8000 km, there's only 2000 km on the engine itself. Seems like a waste of money to get an oil change that often, and probably to no real benefit for the vehicle. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Agree 100%
On the surface it may seem like waste of money - however, oil goes bad 2 ways - due to engine running and due to time passing. So even though engine is not running, it still goes bad with time hence has to be replaced
@@mr.mitsubishi The issue isn't the calendar time directly, it's the many short runs. Which are less likely to allow the engine to get hot enough to dissipate the contaminants in the crankcase. Bearings soaked in contaminants can pit even if the engine doesn't run at all. That would be the engineering theory. The cynical theory is that the 5 month recommendation will generate more income for the dealers.
My one question, why when looking at the uk Mitsubishi site the recommended service interval for exactly the same car is 12months or 12000 miles?
I wondering whether there is a "Need inspection" message in the display shown - when the car needs a check-up.
My Mitsubishi Lancer does this. So ...
It will show you service needed reminder for oil change.
Can you make a video how to change a cabin filter in outlander 2023? Seems different from old models. I hate to go for that to a dealer.
Can you make one vedio for tire change ...know how ...i had difficulty to change by 2 1/4 ton jack...
Thank you, thank you. Very helpful to have this information.
Thank you for watching and commenting :)
Is there anything recording how long or how many km's the engine was on for? Driving 8000kms is fine, but likely the engine has only been on for 3000 of those. How is that dealt with?
Thanks for the great video Sir!
I visited North Van Mitsubishi this week to explore the 2024 Outlander PHEV GT-P. Unfortunately, they not only apply a markup but also include additional accessory packages. The pre-tax cost amounts to nearly $63,000 before tax and rebates.
Moreover, I was informed that all services must be performed exclusively at the dealership to maintain the 10-year warranties. Can you verify the accuracy of this claim? Additionally, they are offering a service package priced at around $8,000. This significantly raises the total cost of the car, making it considerably higher than the Tesla Model Y. I would appreciate your insights on the maintenance costs and warranties associated with this vehicle. Thank you!
Hey Mr. Mitsubishi Is it okay to fully empty the gas tank? Then run a little KM then fill up a new gas afterwards?
Just go add fresh gas... There's no reason to drain it down to empty.
What about cvt trans fluid services? That is very important to me and I am wondering if dealers would be able to do that on the phev model? Debating this car since I want to know for a fact they will be able to do that.
In the UK my 2014 2.0 phev has had an oil change every 8000 miles from when I bought it at 58900 miles (95k Km approx) it is now on 328,500 miles! Running very well too. Needs a new battery though. That is down to 50% :( still in daily use as a taxi
Thanks for information, I bought my unit from cambridge mitsubishi, after driving about 1000km I realize the crooked steering wheel slightly to right. Will they fix this?
If it's a factory defect, they will fix it.
@@mr.mitsubishi they are not even recognizing this. My bad luck is I bought the vehicle from them. They dont even have allignment checker setup in workshop
Drive it normally and the first portion of brake pedal travel activates regeneration - hence, less brake pad and rotor wear. Not much need for paddles. Some users are reporting that Innovative Pedal actually increases friction braking, which will increase pad and rotor wear, and decrease battery range.
Thank you for your comment. The innovative pedal in theory shouldn't decrease the EV range.. It brakes with motors and is charging the battery as it does so.
@@mr.mitsubishiI thought the Innovative Pedal uses the regen brakes but also the friction brakes. It is my understanding that the paddles increase the use of the regen brakes but not the friction brakes.
Hi Mr. Mitsubishi, you never told when to change the break pads as recommended on your video?
Brake pads will vary depending on the type of driving among other factors. Check them every time you do oil changes and if they are worn, replace them.
thats the reason why BEV makes so much sense: no maintenance required, at leased for Teslas :-) are you KIDDING?!?! every 5 months change the Oil?!?! our current 2019 PHEV has 20.000 km or 12 months maintenance (Germany) schedule (incl. oil change) - I’ve expected Mitusibishi is able to improve this, but this is an absolute show stopper!
Do I void my extended warranty if I change the oil myself?
If you do everything correctly, get proper parts/filters and keep receipts, you should be good. However, it's not recommended.
Super informative, what about the engine coolant?
That can run for a very long time.. Can't remember seeing it but it's years.
older comment but you can get test strips to test it, but by mileage its around 90k to 120k miles is a good time to get that flushed out
gf6a SP A?? Or gf6a SP B??
Would you recommend doing rust protection for these PHEVs? (especially with the snow & salt)
Always good to do regardless of what type of vehicle. Recommend Krown, oil film. Don't get that black tar looking stuff.
We were told by the dealership you can still add rust protection in your doors and other panels but the under the car where the battery is
If you are keeping the vehicle for the long term, it's good to have. Just keep in mind that you can't undercoat it due to battery presence.
A chart about this stuff when you sold the outlander would have been nice. Like you said. No info on any of this was given when I went to pick up mine. Something to think about in the future.
That is hard to believe. Don’t you have the owner’s manual in the glove box?, just go to the maintenance chapter.
Owners manual has all this info on maintenance and service. Plus, once you bring in your car for service, they will let you know what's required etc.
It's available online with a quick search.
I found that I rarely had to rotate the tires on my previous PHEV. I would measure the tread depth to make sure. The dealership would often say they didn't need rotating. I think because the car is always using both front and back motors they wear evenly.
I would still rotate every 8000km. Remember you turn your front wheels and drive on uneven roads. For example you drive in the right lane your vehicle will be on a slant, thus more weight on the right side of the vehicle. Definitely recommend rotating :) wont hurt.
Most people would still benefit a lot form rotating tires.
Also consider that you are carrying an engine in the front which adds more weight there thus more tire wear.
@@jasonkirkland1304 tread depth measurements would say otherwise.
Does the vehicle give you a notification that service is coming due?
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@@mr.mitsubishi Is that a yes?
Thanks for the video. Im having a problem with my head unit and carplay (wireless or wired). Sometimes when you start the vehicle it doesnt automatically go to carplay and the carplay button will be unresponsive. Ive also had issues where all music and sounds will leave the car stereo and start playing back on the phone. HELP
I have tested with 2 different iphones, wired and wireless, even offline music
Weird.. I would reach out to service..
Hello Mr. Mitsubishi there is an odd warning to my Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV after starting the car: "consuming old fuel, engine stops after refueling 20L or more".
What does is mean & how can I fix this?
Go get some new gas! Maybe it's been sitting in the tank for more than 90 days. Hope this helps.
Yes, the car will do this if you don't run on any gas.. Simply "forces" some gas consumption so it doesn't go bad.
@@mr.mitsubishiis it okay to empty the gas then filling it up with new one? Thank u
I only got the car & the dealership told me that they just full tank the car but then on the day that I will pick it up that odd warning came out, the mechanic told me it would be alright after consuming 20L but still I am nearing the empty & still the odd warning didn't disappear. Is it okay to empty it then fill it up after?
I use the pedal shifter however every time I go up to from B2 to B3 , the gas engine kicks in, is that normal and why?
It shouldn't.. Try with steering wheel paddles
@@mr.mitsubishi yes I’m using the steering wheel and it’s happens to me
If battery is too full (above 50%) you can't stay in EV mode while using B3,B4,B5. Excess regen coming from brakes is dissipated by motor. Weird way to deal with such a thing, but hey, it works.
I believe here in Canada the dealer offers different level of maintenance packages for a charge. Peace of mind.
Possibly
its about 16,000 km not 8,000 kms for the gas version so PHEV should do better than 8k oil change.
As a resident of SF bay area in CA, Mitsubishi cars is almost nowhere to be seen. I am highly interested in Outlander PHEV and seriously considering buying it. However, the major information about this car I am getting now is from your youtube channel. U.S Mitsubishi is not doing their job at all. I think Mitsubishi should give you a promotion and make you in charge the north American market. I am really sorry to see that Mitsubishi”s California market is dying.
I think it would be useful to clearly state that there is no transmission, therefore no transmission oil, no transmission filter. Many reviews of this vehicle think there is a CVT transmission, obviously wrong.
Also, you mention rotate the tires, but you do not state in what order to rotate the tires, clockwise? Counterclockwise? Front-to-back? Crosswise (right rear to left front etc.)
Thank you! Typically you just swap fronts with backs, same side.
Doesn't make since. What if I drive mostly in EV mode?
You still need to chgange oil ect
Why are oil changes so much more frequent on this car compared to almost every other car these days?
Not sure.. I haven’t cross referrenced it with other makes and models
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Why you need frequent oil change if don't run the engine once in a while? Seems they want grab money for nothing.
Oil still goes bad with time.. Even if the car would simply sit in the garage all the time, still has to be changed.