Rob makes me laugh every time cuz he's so against Curry and as time goes on these video make Rob look more ridiculous. Curry didn't need big shots cuz he's so dominate, when they win, he's sitting down on the bench in the 4th qtr! Every shimmy, every dance, ever ring point, every night, night is an ICONIC SHOT!!! You will see these shots forever! . When you lay down a top ten, you need to agree on common criteria to judge against. If it's just subjective, the discussion will go round and round and round and round!! The media who doesn't like Curry, keeps moving the goal post back, first was, he needs an MVP Finals, now it's about "big shots"- sorry that was the knock against Kobe back in the day. Rob you can have your opinion but that's all it is. If you want to base on actual titles, MVPs, facts and numbers, Curry is top 10.
Right, at this point it’s intellectually offensive. He can’t be as blind as he acts. He must think people are stupid for him to vomit his ridiculous takes with a straight face.
I’m not saying Curry is top 10. It’s a subjective take but Broussard has been OWNING Rob Parker in these segments about Steph. Rob is just hating hard and we all know it.
Shout out to Brou for being the ONLY person on a major platform to QUALIFY the criteria for his list. He has been doing it and others continue to jump over that part.
Broussard is the most non biased analyst on TV, and like you said, his ability to actually have factual material to his arguments is what makes him on a different level than other Skip & Rob type analyst
This “pressure” argument is so weird. Wouldn’t you rather a player keep the game out of reach and never allow it to get close in the 4th. Which is what Steph usually does by finishing teams in the 3rd. Rob has no actual argument so he’s resorting to “no big shots”🤣.
Exactly. It’s such a dumb argument. Since Steph’s team take care of busy in the first three quarters he gets penalized for not hitting pressured shot in a close game.
What you have to realise is that people, players, all time greats, analysts are shook, because they didn't see Steph coming. That's what a lot of the hate is about you know. Steph Curry redefined what you need to win a championship. People thought you needed a big wing player or a center. Steph proved all you needed was an all time great PG who is one of the most efficient scorers in NBA history. That's why they try to discredit him at every turn and why he plays with a chip on his shoulder. The media are directly to blame for Steph torching the Celtics in the NBA finals. 31 PPG on 48/42 splits is a bit crazy. Plus Steph isn't athletic, trust me if it was Russell Westbrook/Derrick Rose/John Wall getting all those chips and accolades they wouldn't hesitate for one second to put them top 10 of all time. Think about this, they put LBJ top 2 all time, when he had a 3-6 finals record. They would never do that if LBJ was under 6'5. It's literally because he's short and not athletic that people try to throw all types of bs at him to see what sticks. Take last year for example Steph as the only primary scoring threat, avg 32 PPG on 48/42/91 splits. Dragged a team with no other Allstars on it to the 8th seed. Tell me when Larry Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Kareem, ever did that in that level of efficiency. But all they're going to do is make Steph go 2016 on them again. I predict he gets both the MVP and scoring titles and wins the chip and gets another fmvp. Then their heads will explode.
I wonder why called Karl Malone never gets any love in the top 10 or top 20🤔. Does anyone have a theory on this? I mean he is top 5 in all time scoring
This segment is like when you are qualified for a raise but your supervisor tries to make up reasons why he wont give you a raise to keep up with inflation
Steph will never have enough rings, enough Finals MVPs, enough game winning shots for people like Rob and Skip… Just say you don’t like Steph, that would make much more sense 😂
to not believe hes in the top 10 doesnt mean you dont like Steph. You can think there are 10 players better than Steph all time without being Steph hater.
@@spenser6353 if you know Rob and Skip you know he not just talk about the top 10 argument he talk about anything that have to do with Stephen Curry please stop acting like we just mad at the top 10 discussion
What's Duncan's biggest shot in the Finals? Or Shaq? Or Olajuwon? Or Chamberlain? Or Russell? Or Jabbar? 🤣 Steph doesn't have the moments of Jordan but not everyone can be like Mike! He's not MJ and that's ok.
The only 4 shots remembered are Jordan game 6 , Kyrie's 3 on GS, Ray Allen at Miami, and KD on Lebron.. I don't particularly remember any " big shot" from Magic , Bird, Kobe, Russell as well as the players you named . Robs logic is so flawed it's ridiculous..
@@soda8736 KD's shot over Lebron is overblown and only over analyzed by Rob and Skip. The Warriors were up 2-0. There was no added pressure. Now if they were down 2-0 in danger of being 0-3 then that's a different story.
According to Rob Jordan wasn’t clutch because he never played in a game 7 he never was in a pressurized situation in the finals. Also Joe Montana beating the Broncos 55-10 in the Super Bowl wasn’t clutch either
The dagger he hit over white in game 4 was a huge shot that iced the game for them. That shot will absolutely be In his highlight reel. Not to mention the shot he made after putting Delli's ankles in the ER back in 2015. Dude has hit big shots in big moments.. Rob just wants to find any reason to hate.
Remember game 6 wcf 2019. Kd injured & Steph scores 33 points in the 2nd half. He also hit the last 3 field goals in the 4th to win them the game against pj tucker
@@Shinobi91 that 2019 run alone should have proven the curry haters wrong , a ring would have been great but this was the icing on the cake run this season
Thank you Chris for being objective vs Wilt. For a guy with the regular season numbers that he has, it’s a massive disappointment that he only has 2 chips especially with the level of competition.
I’ll take Wilt over Steph any day. Chris is jumping on the hype. He himself said 1-2 weeks ago that putting Steph in the top 10 would be impossible because you can’t take anyone out of the top 10. Now he takes Wilt out of it? Just trying to get people to talk about him
@@vincegonzalez6804 dude…wilt was averaging 50 ppg in the regular season and was out here dropping 4 points in playoff games. multiple play off/ final games finishing under 20 points…the dude was overrated asf. steph is clear of him
I think what Rob forgets is that the NBA is different now. That 10 point lead is a huge deal because of the 3 ball. A team isn’t out of it just because it’s double digits.
Yeah. But compared to other big shots in nba history Curry technically didn’t hit any big shots. A 3 pointer with a 10 pt lead isn’t technically a bit shot
He doesn’t forget anything. He just is a Curry hater. Curry could win 5 more championships, MVP’s and Finals MVP’s and he would still say Curry isn’t top 10.
@@TrestanSKYWALKR exactly. Guys like Skip, Max and Rob…. They pick a player to hate, and never let up…. It’s shtick, click bate…. Like Rob vs Brady. This isn’t real journalism it’s entertainment!
yeah but Steph is not dominating the league if theres hand checking. YOU CANNOT GUARD ANYONE on the perimeter nowadays, every 3 pt shot is a wide open shot. Whose to say the reggie miller wouldn't dominate the game based on today's rules?
Parker is getting destroyed. Broussard made a great rebuttal. So Game 4 when Steph had all the pressure in the world to tie the series wasn't pressure? He scored 43 in what's basically do-or-die. They were ready to fall to 3-1.
That game was pretty close too. Even though the score was similar to game 6 that game 4 felt more like a nail biter while game 6 was pretty comfortable.
Steph took over in a must win game 4 just Tatum did in that gm 6 against Milwaukee when they were down 3-2. Lebron did the same thing in 2012 when he went berserk in gm 6 down 3-2 to Boston in the ECF scoring 45. Jimmy Butler replicated Lebron's performance in gm 6 against Boston dropping 48 where every bucket was meaningful. Steph's gm 4 takeover was just as dominant as all the others yet Rob is blind by his bias hate for Steph.
Rob is just as crazy as Skip. How you rate a guy based on “a big shot” 😂😂The reason why Steph never had a big shot because he gave them such a big lead by scoring the whole game. Rob don't even believe this crap.
I was actually with Rob before this Celtics series but it's not about big shots its about big moments and that game 4 was an all time great moment for Steph especially that shot where Gary Payton II passed up a wide open shot to give Curry a contested shot and Curry still swished it.
@@williamgray9692 So its people like you who allow for the existence of people like Rob Parker, and Skip Bayless who make a career doing constant mental gymnastics to betlittle others? While also being childish and condecending in his tone. He is a grown adult, this is nothing to love or admire. Yikes. It's the same copy and paste, lazy, predictable arguments where the goal post gets moved depending on who they're discussing. It's so disingenuous and actually belittles the game of bastetball and its complexity down to casual fan Twitter takes.
@@williamgray9692 assuming you're also drowning in tears given the fact that you felt the need to respond, which means it triggered an emotional response, I just hope you take your own advice. Or you're probably just 12. For you're sake, I hope you're 12.
Curry averages 27 ppg in 6 finals series.. Averaged 27, 9 and 8 in the 2017 Finals. He's been absolutely brilliant in most of every Finals he's played in.
Before Chris said his top 10 I decided to pause the vid and make my top 10. Our list was almost identical. I had Wilt over Russell. Honestly he kinda changed my view on that. Well done Chris you’re the goat
I can't put wilt over russell because they played in the same Era and russell had 9 rings to wilts 2. Now Russell did play with 9 hall of famers lol.. I think we gotta start looking at these old guys for what they were. Legends of the game but some of them aren't as good as we make them out to be. Russell averaged 15PPG for his career. Yea he has 11 rings but there was only 8 teams in the league and playoff series were only 5 games. All of this stuff matters.
Shaq is top 5 scoring all time, steph is 47th, Shaq has more mvps more final mvps more all defensive selections so Chris comparing shaq doesn’t make sense, steph is top 15 all time not top 10
@@Capcaller300 his point was Shaq never hit what we’d call an iconic “clutch” shot, like a buzzer beater or something. Still easily qualifies because of how he completely dominated games.
Without Curry they don't win this series like they did. From the 4th game on it was all Steph Curry more than not. They couldn't find an answer for him, and in turn everything else they tried to do just fall apart. That 3-pointer that he hit in the last game was a critical iconic shot which basically closed the door on the series. This is reminding me of the Derek Jeter commentaries where everyone said that he did this that and the other, though he wasn't a power home run hitter? And all Derek did was hit for a .300 average more or less and won I think five world series with the Yankees?
The Warriors could've added any other good player to that team and would've won the same amount of chips. People act like the Warriors were lunchmeat when KD joined. KD went along for the ride just like any other solid player that we could've gotten would've. Stop the hate
What else does Rob need to see from Steph? Score a clutch shot down 3 from the halfcourt line? Come back down 30 in the 4th in the finals? Win DPOY, MVP, scoring title, and Finals mvp with a 50/50/95 splits all in the same year? It's getting ridiculous what some analysts are wanting Steph to do just to give any respect.
Not everyone can be like Michael Jordan in the Finals. 1991 Game 3. 1992 Game 4. 1997 Game 1 & 5. 1998 Game 6. More playoff series ending game winners than Kobe, LeBron, KD, and Steph combined. It's hard to be like Mike, man.
@@nostalgiacorner1999 what happen to lebum in 2007 2011 and 2018 he got swept twice in the finals and loss to mavs with 1 allstar against his 3 allstars 😅
Shaq's big moment was the alley oop against Portland. However, I'd argue that Steph's big moment was when Gary Payton II passed up a wide-open shot to let Curry swish a contested shot.
I think we have to redefine clutch playmaking because of how fast teams can come back and flip the game. Boston could have easily came back and took the lead if it weren’t for Steph hitting some key layup and a 3 to weather that storm.
Rob is such a buffoon. There’s no “pressure” to make a shot when a team has a 10 point lead, yet if the Celtics were to come back and win the game he would have said that Steph “choked” or was a “no-show”. Rob literally hates that Steph IS in the top ten and is looking for every excuse to diminish his legacy. Keep it up Rob, at this rate you might lose your job for such ridiculous and nonsensical arguments.
Even Kobe doesn't have as many memorable moments in the Finals except the Sprain Ankle Game. His only clutch shot was in 2004 to send it to OT. Skip and Rob wants to compare Steph to Mike but Mike is incomparable.
Game 4 finals against the Pacers and Game 3 finals against the 76ers. I suggest you watch both games. However, Steph was clutch against the Celtics. Also watch the Lakers 2000 conference semi's against Suns in game 2.
@@zeaferjones1404 they’re talking finals I believe. Anyways, Kobe has choked and played horrible way more than Steph ever has. Steph only has one bad series on his resume
@@sheamonty3152 The Lakers vs Pacers was a finals series so I suggest you watch game 4. The 76ers vs Lakers was also a finals series and I suggest you watch game 3. I mentioned the 2000 conference semis against the Suns game 2 just to give you guys a little more context.
@@sheamonty3152 The only one that isn't a finals game that I mentioned was the Suns in game 2 in the 2000 conference semis. The other games are finals games.
Wilt had Elgin Baylor and Jerry West as teammates but only won 2 championships. Wilt was notorious for stat padding and the reason is he took way too many shots to boost his points and that's not consistent winning basketball. Wilt's stats drop drastically in the playoffs 30 pts a game on 51% free throw shooting in the regular season, 22 points on 46% free throw shooting in the playoffs. Wilt took 39 shots a game when he averaged 50 points that's just way too excessive. I'm not trying to be harsh I just don't like when people don't include context when they bring up stats and Lebron fanboys are the absolute worst in that category. I'm not saying you're a fanboy I'm just saying in general.
I think LeBron, KD, and Kawhi must look at next year as they don't want to watch Steph keep winning rings. LeBron is stuck at 4. KD and Kawhi are stuck at 2. But out of those 3, KD seems the least motivated to win any more rings.
Bron and Kawhi know they can actually win rings KD probably not motivated because of the “greats” of this era he the only one who ain’t been able to overcome the best
@@Husslenot1201 5 out of 10 have 5 or more Duncan magic kobe bill Russell Kareem the others often listed by people includes Oscar LeBron wilt Shaq Hakeem bird..... 5 championships almost garuntee steph a spot on most ppls list
@@robd1811 that’s what I’m saying. Why does that fifth chip guarantees him a top 10 spot while half of them don’t have 5? Top 10? If you going off chips then bill Russell should be one but y’all aren’t going off of that
Bottom line . Rob Parker will Never fully embrace Steph curry as a great player . It almost seems personal . A 4th championship didn’t do much to change things in rob Parker’s eyes lol smh
to not believe hes in the top 10 doesnt mean you dont like Steph. You can think there are 10 players better than Steph all time without being Steph hater
That is where I differ. I also criticized Curry for not stepping up in the playoffs but that is because I like Curry and I think he could perform so much better than he played in those first two Cleveland series. Now that Curry basically dominated a great defense in the finals that shut down Durant and Giannis, he has proved himself.
@@zeaferjones1404 Stephen Curry averaged 26.0 points, 6.3 assists and 5.2 rebounds in 6 games in the 2015 NBA Finals. I won't even bother with the 2017 and 18 numbers because I'm sure you'll just mention the super illegal alien Kevin Durant to discredit his impact. Steph been proved himself. All he did was add on to the legend.
Rob’s says Steph doesn’t have the “body of work” to be in the top ten? A two time MVP (one unanimously), 4 time NBA champion, 8 time (and counting) all star, finals MVP, and the greatest shooter of all time. Mr. Parker is either a hater or just wants to go against the grain for the heck of it like Marcellus Wiley does. Either way, it’s not a good look. I can see where Broussard is coming from concerning Wilt, but his stats are too amazing to keep him out of the all time top ten. For me, I put Steph in my top ten and switched him with Oscar Robertson (sadly).
Disgrace what some people are doing too Wilt's legacy. When Jordan was playing in his prime people were debating who was the greatest Wilt Chamberlain or Michael Jordan. Now 20+ years later Wilt isn't top 10 fuckin ridiculous man!
Wilt will never leave the top 10 for me. But back then, it was definitely less about the rings than in modern sports media. Now its only about the rings and the quality of those championships (i.e. LeBron's 2016 ring to KD's 2017 and 2018 rings).
Rob Parker is doing his best skip bayless impression. They just have to face it curry is top 10 now, before this finals everyone said he can’t carry a team to a finals without kd and they said they had to see him do it and win finals mvp. He did exactly that and now people like rob Parker and skip still discredit him smh
Those single digit finals games were at the end of Wilts career post knee surgery while performing as defensive anchor. Learn your history better Chris.
top 5 is more than just being great individual player. you must also be a great team player. your team must have dominated the era. along with amazing, divine, mindblowing team and individual feats that will never be surpassed. top 5 must have tremendous impact on the game, revolutionized the game, beyond accolades and stats. that's why Curry is easily top 5. 1. Curry's Warriors dominated the league for most of the decade, and still not done. 4 rings in 6 finals appearances within 8 year span, hasn't been done in over 20 years. Set new regular season record for wins. A system that even other superstars are envious and enticed to be a part of. 2. Curry has better playoff games winning rate than other top 10 nominees. He has won 69.40% of his playoff games. The next closest is Magic with 67.37%. OTOH Wilt and Hakeem has won only 55% and 52% respectively their playoffs games. In terms of playoff series winning rate, Curry is second only to Russell. Where Russell won 93.10% of his playoff series, and Curry won 84.62%. Again Wilt and Hakeem has won only 62% and 55% respectively their playoffs series. Thus Curry and his Warriors dominated both regular season and post season. Including record-setting 73 wins, and unstoppable 16-1 playoff run. 3. Curry set new records that weren't even in existence until he came along. Most importantly, everybody is changing their game, play style, skill set, in order to try to chase his records. that's revolutionary. everyone, even bigs, centers, forwards, that used to only attack the paint, now must learn to shoot 3s because of Curry's monumental influence. 4. Leadership. NBA is ultimately a team sport. Curry's leadership and charisma fosters a winning culture. A culture that turns a downtrodden franchise into a dynasty.
Best part of this debate... Steph Curry gives zero Sh!ts what Rob and anyone like Rob thinks.... Curry the man. He might even where a shirt next year that says ROB YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!
This man really said 43 master piece in game 4 of the Finals wouldn't be in Curry's career highlights. WTH is this man smoking? Or even game 1 when he made 6 three pointers in the first quarter. That's also definitely going in the hightlights.
"Steph needs other things"? You mean how MJ needed Pippen, Shaq needed Kobe, Kareem needed Magic? C'mon man thats so stupid. Every superstar needed a supporting cast. If you can't acknowledge Game 4 was one of the most clutch performances in NBA history to avoid going down 3 games to 1, and putting up 43 against super tight defense on the road... You're just a hater and nothing more. That game was f'n legendary.
Lebron needed Kyrie/ Wade/ AD, Duncan needed Robinson/ Ginobli/ Parker, etc. Also Steph doesn't hit as many big shots in the 4th quarter because he's spent a lot of his prime putting teams away EARLIER with big 3rd quarters. Can't judge clutch ability properly when your closer decides to finish the job early.
Rob HATES Steph with all of his fiber. Steph ain't clutch but he still praises Aaron Rodgers and this dude chocked in virtually every playoff games he has played.
You can tell he was emotional because Shaq's big moment is obvious, but he was so flustered because he knows he is wrong about Steph's performance in this finals. Shaq's big moment was the alley oop dunk on Portland in game 7 and although Curry didn't have any moments that big I do think the shot where Gary Payton II passed up a wide open shot to let Curry make a contested shot was Steph's big moment of the finals.
i got Curry in top 5, by sheer impact and influence on the game. single-handedly influenced entirely novel strategies offensively and defensively for all teams in the league.
Just for the record, Rob says Stef has never had that shot well he's wrong but it's the hate that fuels his debates!! I can give you one shot instantly. The Shot Stef made against OKC when he literally got the ball a little over half court and shot the 3 to put them up by 3.
*Warriors* *Will* *Repeat* *In* *2023* I just looked at the power rankings for next year and I have the same exact top 4: Warriors, Clippers, Bucks, & Celtics. I think the only team who can beat the Warriors are my Clippers but I'm not sure on that. Stephen A. Smith will be correct again. Warriors will repeat. This was the WORST version of the Warriors and they still won the title. They'll only improve with Klay getting his conditioning back. With Wiggins entering his prime. With Poole and Kuminga only improving. With Wiseman returning. Kawhi and PG-13 are MJ and Kobe. They are archaic no different than LeBron, DWade, Melo, KD, DRose, Ja, etc. It doesn't work in this era. I'm not saying Steph is better than MJ or Kobe. I'm only talking their style of play in these current times. But the reason I'm giving my Clippers a puncher's chance is because they have the only coach who has beaten the Warriors whole. Draymond is wrong. They were beaten whole in 2016. He just didn't play Game 5. I'm aware Bogut got hurt but Kendrick Perkins got hurt in Game 6 of the 2010 Finals. Whole as in your core trio. Ty Lue can get his players wide-open threes. They just need to make them. But Kawhi and Paul George are not the shooters of Steph, Klay, and Poole. I'm not sure Norman Powell has the clutch gene in him. He gagged in that play-in. Seems like a nice role player during the regular season like Lou Williams was. A lot of my team might look good in the reg season only to disappear when the playoffs hit. I'm looking at you, Paul George. My Clippers should've been the champs in 2021 if Kawhi didn't get hurt. Clippers must view the Warriors like the Lakers. They must HATE them. If Bucks are healthy, they can return to the Finals. Giannis is the new LeBron in the East. Celtics caught a lucky break with Middleton out. But Bucks also caught a lucky break the year before with Harden hobbled and Kyrie out. If we get Warriors vs. Bucks, I still got Warriors. Bucks are taller but we're talking a dynasty vs. a one-hit wonder. Four rings clearly beats one. It's almost like if MJ's Bulls met Dream's Rockets in 1997 if Stockton didn't make that clutch shot. The rest like the Suns, Celtics, Heat, & Sixers, I see teams that caught lucky breaks the last 2 years. Suns will still be good but they're championship frauds. CP3 will only get older. Looking like they want to get rid of Ayton. Booker and Butler lacks the deep range. Celtics probably won't return to the Finals next year if Bucks stay healthy. Heat just don't have enough firepower. The Sixers are still the Sixers. Annual underachievers. Their best team was in 2019 when they still had Butler and Redick. Won't get out of the 2nd round. Thanks, Doc & Beard. As for the Nets and Lakers? The Nets are trash. Kyrie doesn't really want to be an NBA player any more. Only part-time. He seems content with his 1 ring. And KD is content with his 2 rings. They have a terrible culture like the Lakers do. The Nets as the 2nd choice in the betting is way too high. KD will probably never win another ring the longer he stays with Kyrie. Nets are full of enablers. Wiggins got vaccinated but Nets couldn't convince Kyrie to do it. Weak leadership. The Lakers were just lucky in 2020. Bubble. No fans. No travel. No pressure. A near 5-month break to recharge their bodies only to play another 30 games in Disney World. AD seems content with his 1 ring. He seems lazier than Shaq. Low motor. Who knows if he gets hurt again and again next year? Westbrick is Westbrick. Even if we get LeBron & AD healthy, those guys from the 2020 team are mostly gone. I got them at 7th seed at best which is where Vegas has them. Of course by next week, it will be 95% Lakers talk because LeBron is there. I'm already mapping out how I'll play next year's Finals. Cover the Warriors, Clippers, and Bucks. Then maybe add another 3 more teams when the regular season happens. My top 3 seed angle works. Just grab the top 3 from both conferences and you'll likely hit the Finals like 97% of the time. Top 3 In West 1. Warriors 2. Clippers 3. Grizzlies (Ja = new Westbrick/DRose) Top 3 In East 1. Bucks 2. Celtics 3. Heat As much as I hate the Lakers, if I see their odds really high, I might throw a few bucks on them. Why not? I don't bet with feelings. I hate the Warriors and they just made me close to $900. Need to put all your personal feelings aside when gambling. But again, I just don't see it with the Lakers. They completely fluked in 2020. But I know ESPN will keep talking about them even if they're an 11th seed again next year. Luka might be the next big superstar and superstars usually get the furthest but he'll show up fat and is actually a poor shooter. I'm not too high on the Mavs. Maybe 2nd round but that's it. I still think the Grizzlies are better than the Mavs as a whole. Now expect Skip Bayless to keep hyping the Clippers and Grizzlies but I don't trust the Grizzlies enough. Still too inexperienced. I think Ja is fun to watch but I also think he's another Westbrick/DRose. He plays very dangerous. My Clippers with their experience can knock out the Grizzlies in the playoffs. Put $100 on the Warriors to net $500. They're going to repeat barring no injuries. Steph is a transcendent player that Kawhi, PG-13, Giannis, Jokić, Kyrie, AD, Tatum, Butler, Booker, Embiid, and Ja are NOT. This is the honest truth. We have many stars but there are very few SUPERSTARS. And even fewer transcendent superstars like Steph. THE WARRIORS ARE BACK! And no team is going to stop their bullet train.
Omg I was wrong just watched Jimmy's video and gotta remove wilt for Curry didn't realize how little wilt contributed to winning and its ridiculous how much Curry has.
Rob will never give curry his credit. If he had missed those layups while Boston was trying to come back rob would say he missed shot after shot down the stretch and allowed Boston back into the game. Hitting those shots was big because it prevented Boston from getting back in the game.
Curry benefits for being a dominate player. He doesn't usually win/lose close. It's rare he has a buzzer beater because they typically win by 5+. Wouldn't that make you better if you're usually not in a situation where you need to hit buzzer beaters? I guess Dame is better if big shots are the case lol.
Exactly Chris. Impact on the game: Steph has selflessness, playing basketball the right way and leadership. In addition to that, he’s a transcendent player. He revolutionized the game in such way that other teams, players, kids are trying to mimic today .
What do you expect from Rob? When Tom Brady won 7th SB, he said Brady was Robert Horry. When Robert started hating a player, that player is closed to GOAT
Man...we really got to get the the source of all this Steph hate. The more he accomplishes the more glaring it is to see. After Steph won this Chip and FMVP, several people over the course of the last 3 days have been desperately sweating trying to find SOMETHING new, because they can't process that he actually accomplished the thing they didn't think he could pull off. I wish some of these dudes would be honest beforehand, and just say it You don't believe a person 6'3 and under can be in the top 10 even if they are just as great or greater than someone 6'5 and up, there is this unspoken gatekeeping/bias going on in media when I look at all of the analyst top 10 lists, I think this is going on with Steph currently Just my opinion, feel free to disagree.
Not sure about previous finals but this time it was just Steph, he carried gsw on his back in the finals. Had he not played the way he did in game 4th, gsw had almost lost the series.
Here's what Rob Parker is saying, MJ hit the game winning shot over Bryon Russell in the '98 NBA Finals Game 6 and Magic Johnson hit the game winning baby sky hook shot in the '87 NBA Finals Game 4. Steph Curry missed two 3 pt attempts in the 2016 NBA Final Game 7 & a 3pt attempt in the final seconds in the 2019 NBA Final Game 6. Steph's complete package is based on his long range from 3 pt land and can make a lot of them during the regular season & post season, but when it comes to the finals, he doesn't have a memorable 3pt shot that we can all point to and say that's the greatest shot he's made in the NBA Finals. My personal reason for keeping Steph Curry in the Top 11 - 15 is totally different than what Rob Parker is saying.
Did you forget that Steph flew across the country to beg Durant to save him after he got walked down by LeBron and Kyrie? Interesting how you didn't mention that
There wasn’t even one buzzer beater to win the game in the entire playoffs run for the Warriors. Rob wants to see the scenario that was non-existent 😂.
When Chris asked Rob what big shot did Shaq make Rob just made up something real quick. He said Shaq didn’t have to hit a big shot because he averaged 30. He set himself up. Black Skip gotta stop
Game 6 Steph scored 34 points but only had four attempts at the free throw line where he was 4 out of 4. The best defense this year in the playoffs and I think 🤔 during the regular season was the Boston Celtics. You mean to tell me this light skin brotha scored 34 points and only had four trips to the line? I’d love to see this statistics from past NBA finals MVP’s to see the number of points in the last game and the number of trips to the free throw line those MVP’s had. I’m sure not on Steph’s level. The brotha is for sure top ten. Easy.
PARKER GOTTA STAY OFF HIS PHONE HE REALLY DONT BE LISTENING TO EVERYTHING THATS NOT COOL BUT CHRIS IS ALWAYS LISTENING THE WHOLE TIME PARKER TOO BUSY TEXTING ESCORTS LOL AND IG GIRLS
4 NBA Titles 1 FMVP 2 Regular season Mvp 8 All Stars appearances 1st All-time in 3 pointers made in NBA history 4x First team 3× Second team 2× NBA scoring leader
Rob come on, it's like saying MJ isn't the goat cause he was never played great in a finals game 7... He didn't have to, cause he played well enough to not have to be in that position.
@@spenser6353 no one said he was. My point was about the "big shot" reasoning. Steph is too 10. He's better than Shaq, Bill Russell, Oscar, KD, Wilt....
I really don’t understand this argument for the need to hit a big shot. The objective of the game is to win. The greater the lead, the greater the chances of winning. How many games in the history of the NBA comes down to a single shot to win the game? Personally, I don’t think the big shot is as great as people make it out to be. Because it means the winning team is not outright better and there is an element of luck involved.
@@tj2nasty4ya83 Steph missed a few big 3PT and if he had hit just 2 more then they would have gone to a game 7. But Klay went down and he was the only offensive threat, so the defence collapsed on him. TBH all this debate between the players, media, and fans don’t really matter. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is their impact on the lives of their fans and how well they manage their money.
@@empiricalpurity if u being honest with urself n look at that shot he was open enough to hit it.. Hell I've seen steph hit some crazy 3s with more difficulty than that shot he missed..
@@tj2nasty4ya83 I agree. Steph did have a couple of open looks. It’s a hit or miss league and he missed crucial shots that could have changed the course of history. That’s what people like Skip holds against him since 2016.
Rob is just mumbling. Winning a 4th ring doesn’t do much for Curry but losing diminishes his greatness. Just imagine what will come out of Rob’s mouth if GSW had lost this finals.
That's the problem we are basically splitting hairs. In fact, if you give Iverson one title, he is in the top 10. If you give Iverson 2 titles, I might put him above Lebron because the 76ers team he carried to the finals was much worse than the early Cleveland teams. At least Mo Williams could score 20 points per game. Iverson didn't have anyone that could consistently score 10.
rob parker is a pure hater of steph curry, while chris broussard is talking he is looking in his phone to find a way how to counter attack chris, he didnt really watched the NBA Finals, what a clown 🤣
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Rob makes me laugh every time cuz he's so against Curry and as time goes on these video make Rob look more ridiculous. Curry didn't need big shots cuz he's so dominate, when they win, he's sitting down on the bench in the 4th qtr! Every shimmy, every dance, ever ring point, every night, night is an ICONIC SHOT!!! You will see these shots forever! . When you lay down a top ten, you need to agree on common criteria to judge against. If it's just subjective, the discussion will go round and round and round and round!! The media who doesn't like Curry, keeps moving the goal post back, first was, he needs an MVP Finals, now it's about "big shots"- sorry that was the knock against Kobe back in the day. Rob you can have your opinion but that's all it is. If you want to base on actual titles, MVPs, facts and numbers, Curry is top 10.
Well said, my man!
🗣 PREACH
The media is the one who trying to dub him top 10
broussard waisting his time with this fool
Right, at this point it’s intellectually offensive. He can’t be as blind as he acts. He must think people are stupid for him to vomit his ridiculous takes with a straight face.
I’m not saying Curry is top 10. It’s a subjective take but Broussard has been OWNING Rob Parker in these segments about Steph. Rob is just hating hard and we all know it.
I put him 11 over Durant cuz of this ring he got without him
Top 10 of All Time
Score = Rings x MVP x FMVP
Sample: Horry = 7 x 0 x 0 = 0
Top Player Rings MVP FMVP Score
1 MJ 6 5 6 180
2 Jabbar 6 6 2 72
3 LeBron 4 4 4 64
4 Bill 11 5 n/a 55
5 Magic 5 3 3 45
6 Duncan 5 2 3 30
7 Bird 3 3 2 18
8 Shaq 4 1 3 12
9 Kobe 5 1 2 10
10 Curry 4 2 1 8
Wilt 2 4 1 8
Kevin Durant was a bus rider
Welcome to mainstream sports media? New here?
Hate on light skin brothas is real.
Shout out to Brou for being the ONLY person on a major platform to QUALIFY the criteria for his list. He has been doing it and others continue to jump over that part.
Broussard is the most non biased analyst on TV, and like you said, his ability to actually have factual material to his arguments is what makes him on a different level than other Skip & Rob type analyst
You sound saucy af calls him Brou, copying Nick Wright 😂
He played freaking 20years
@@bbginc694 ....umm...ook 🙄
@@bnoothtx-hvac1862 EXACTLY. Broussard uses FACTS for his takes and Rob only uses his emotions/opinions for his takes.
This “pressure” argument is so weird. Wouldn’t you rather a player keep the game out of reach and never allow it to get close in the 4th. Which is what Steph usually does by finishing teams in the 3rd. Rob has no actual argument so he’s resorting to “no big shots”🤣.
Exactly. It’s such a dumb argument. Since Steph’s team take care of busy in the first three quarters he gets penalized for not hitting pressured shot in a close game.
What you have to realise is that people, players, all time greats, analysts are shook, because they didn't see Steph coming. That's what a lot of the hate is about you know. Steph Curry redefined what you need to win a championship. People thought you needed a big wing player or a center. Steph proved all you needed was an all time great PG who is one of the most efficient scorers in NBA history. That's why they try to discredit him at every turn and why he plays with a chip on his shoulder.
The media are directly to blame for Steph torching the Celtics in the NBA finals. 31 PPG on 48/42 splits is a bit crazy.
Plus Steph isn't athletic, trust me if it was Russell Westbrook/Derrick Rose/John Wall getting all those chips and accolades they wouldn't hesitate for one second to put them top 10 of all time.
Think about this, they put LBJ top 2 all time, when he had a 3-6 finals record. They would never do that if LBJ was under 6'5.
It's literally because he's short and not athletic that people try to throw all types of bs at him to see what sticks.
Take last year for example Steph as the only primary scoring threat, avg 32 PPG on 48/42/91 splits. Dragged a team with no other Allstars on it to the 8th seed. Tell me when Larry Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Kareem, ever did that in that level of efficiency. But all they're going to do is make Steph go 2016 on them again. I predict he gets both the MVP and scoring titles and wins the chip and gets another fmvp. Then their heads will explode.
Nobody believed steph is gonne do this at 34 in the finals averaging 31ppg carrying the dubs haters are shook lol
Can you imagine. His whole argument is down to "no buzzer beaters?" Dude has lost the plot for real. Takes like these get you off air lol
When he's been under pressure he's folded like a cheap tent come on man your missing the point
Rob sounds like Skip Bayless when LeBron won his first championship
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Rob is piggy backing off the Skip Bayless playbook, he’s a phony, they both are.
Nah, Rob has yet to bring up a Curry finals 15 years later or a playoff loss to a better team a decade before.
Notice how he won’t even listen to Chris & his reading talking points t entire TIME! 🥺
Isn’t Rob parker owned by Tom brady?
And to think none of this would be happening if GS wasn't patient with his early injury history.
Top 10 of All Time
Score = Rings x MVP x FMVP
Sample: Horry = 7 x 0 x 0 = 0
Top Player Rings MVP FMVP Score
1 MJ 6 5 6 180
2 Jabbar 6 6 2 72
3 LeBron 4 4 4 64
4 Bill 11 5 n/a 55
5 Magic 5 3 3 45
6 Duncan 5 2 3 30
7 Bird 3 3 2 18
8 Shaq 4 1 3 12
9 Kobe 5 1 2 10
10 Curry 4 2 1 8
Wilt 2 4 1 8
Kevin Durant was a bus rider
I wonder why called Karl Malone never gets any love in the top 10 or top 20🤔. Does anyone have a theory on this? I mean he is top 5 in all time scoring
I think of that a lot. They could have dismissed him as too small and injury prone, but they stuck with him, and he has been worth it.
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This segment is like when you are qualified for a raise but your supervisor tries to make up reasons why he wont give you a raise to keep up with inflation
@AbsorberOfBooks
Bro, literally the perfect analogy. Congrats 👍🏾💯
This is the perfect analogy. Well done.
Steph will never have enough rings, enough Finals MVPs, enough game winning shots for people like Rob and Skip…
Just say you don’t like Steph, that would make much more sense 😂
to not believe hes in the top 10 doesnt mean you dont like Steph. You can think there are 10 players better than Steph all time without being Steph hater.
Sure but the explanation they give is nonsense!
These guys are lil girls hatin on Steph for being better at basketball than their daddy lmao
@@spenser6353 if you know Rob and Skip you know he not just talk about the top 10 argument he talk about anything that have to do with Stephen Curry please stop acting like we just mad at the top 10 discussion
@@spenser6353 If you are watching Rob and Skip regularly, you wouldn't say that. They are pure hater!
What's Duncan's biggest shot in the Finals? Or Shaq? Or Olajuwon? Or Chamberlain? Or Russell? Or Jabbar? 🤣 Steph doesn't have the moments of Jordan but not everyone can be like Mike! He's not MJ and that's ok.
The only 4 shots remembered are Jordan game 6 , Kyrie's 3 on GS, Ray Allen at Miami, and KD on Lebron.. I don't particularly remember any " big shot" from Magic , Bird, Kobe, Russell as well as the players you named . Robs logic is so flawed it's ridiculous..
@@soda8736 kawhis game 7 shot...
2013 nba finals game 7.lebron's jumper over kawhi.they were up by 2 and that bucket made it a 2-possession lead.
@@soda8736 KD's shot over Lebron is overblown and only over analyzed by Rob and Skip. The Warriors were up 2-0. There was no added pressure. Now if they were down 2-0 in danger of being 0-3 then that's a different story.
@@incogneto2834 That's not in the finals.
According to Rob Jordan wasn’t clutch because he never played in a game 7 he never was in a pressurized situation in the finals. Also Joe Montana beating the Broncos 55-10 in the Super Bowl wasn’t clutch either
LeBron isn't clutch either because he's never hit a 3 down 4 and intentionally missed the and-1 to score on a put-back dunk.
jordan last shot was to win the game its not the same
@@georgeprchal3924 lmao!!!
Jordan had many game winners , and Rob never said that. Stop misquoting him fool.
January 28th 1990 the 49ers put on the greatest clinical demonstration in the Superbowl era!!!!
Honestly my favorite shot from Steph is still that buzzer beater in OT against OKC in 2016. Regular season but still lol
SAMEEE, you can see the life leave the bench while the ball in the air 😂😂😂
Bang Bang. Oh what a shot from Curry!
I can see Steph dancing still in my head after he hit that shot.
Greatest shot all time!!!
his best shot ever!! Thats what people want to see from him do in the finals...
YUP!
The dagger he hit over white in game 4 was a huge shot that iced the game for them. That shot will absolutely be In his highlight reel. Not to mention the shot he made after putting Delli's ankles in the ER back in 2015. Dude has hit big shots in big moments.. Rob just wants to find any reason to hate.
Remember game 6 wcf 2019. Kd injured & Steph scores 33 points in the 2nd half. He also hit the last 3 field goals in the 4th to win them the game against pj tucker
@@user-xv1sr3uy7p exactly!
@@user-xv1sr3uy7p yes he danced on Tucker and let it fly from the wing 🤣🤣
@@Shinobi91 that 2019 run alone should have proven the curry haters wrong , a ring would have been great but this was the icing on the cake run this season
@@moneyman4740 if Klay didn't get injured we could've seen a game 7....remember he swept the blazers without KD also.
Thank you Chris for being objective vs Wilt. For a guy with the regular season numbers that he has, it’s a massive disappointment that he only has 2 chips especially with the level of competition.
I’ll take Wilt over Steph any day. Chris is jumping on the hype. He himself said 1-2 weeks ago that putting Steph in the top 10 would be impossible because you can’t take anyone out of the top 10. Now he takes Wilt out of it? Just trying to get people to talk about him
@@vincegonzalez6804 you’ve never seen Wilt play LMAO, let me guess Steph beat your favorite team or player so you’ll say anything to discredit him
Ask yourself why he played worst,
@@vincegonzalez6804 dude…wilt was averaging 50 ppg in the regular season and was out here dropping 4 points in playoff games. multiple play off/ final games finishing under 20 points…the dude was overrated asf. steph is clear of him
Steph hit multiple big shots in game 4, where there was huge pressure of going down 3-1
I think what Rob forgets is that the NBA is different now. That 10 point lead is a huge deal because of the 3 ball. A team isn’t out of it just because it’s double digits.
Yeah. But compared to other big shots in nba history Curry technically didn’t hit any big shots. A 3 pointer with a 10 pt lead isn’t technically a bit shot
He doesn’t forget anything. He just is a Curry hater. Curry could win 5 more championships, MVP’s and Finals MVP’s and he would still say Curry isn’t top 10.
@@TrestanSKYWALKR exactly. Guys like Skip, Max and Rob…. They pick a player to hate, and never let up…. It’s shtick, click bate…. Like Rob vs Brady. This isn’t real journalism it’s entertainment!
@@theshow1269 exactly! 💯
yeah but Steph is not dominating the league if theres hand checking. YOU CANNOT GUARD ANYONE on the perimeter nowadays, every 3 pt shot is a wide open shot. Whose to say the reggie miller wouldn't dominate the game based on today's rules?
Did Rob got rejected by Curry's mom or something, he seems on his feelings, his criteria are contradictory , it applies only to a certain player...
Seems like it.😆
He's trying to ride KD D
He's consciously stupid. A true student of Skip Bayless
Parker is getting destroyed. Broussard made a great rebuttal. So Game 4 when Steph had all the pressure in the world to tie the series wasn't pressure? He scored 43 in what's basically do-or-die. They were ready to fall to 3-1.
That game was pretty close too. Even though the score was similar to game 6 that game 4 felt more like a nail biter while game 6 was pretty comfortable.
@@zeaferjones1404 yeah game 6 was a lead of 20+-10+ for 90% of the game, while game 4 was mostly back and forth until the end of the 4th
Steph took over in a must win game 4 just Tatum did in that gm 6 against Milwaukee when they were down 3-2. Lebron did the same thing in 2012 when he went berserk in gm 6 down 3-2 to Boston in the ECF scoring 45. Jimmy Butler replicated Lebron's performance in gm 6 against Boston dropping 48 where every bucket was meaningful. Steph's gm 4 takeover was just as dominant as all the others yet Rob is blind by his bias hate for Steph.
Rob is just as crazy as Skip. How you rate a guy based on “a big shot” 😂😂The reason why Steph never had a big shot because he gave them such a big lead by scoring the whole game. Rob don't even believe this crap.
I was actually with Rob before this Celtics series but it's not about big shots its about big moments and that game 4 was an all time great moment for Steph especially that shot where Gary Payton II passed up a wide open shot to give Curry a contested shot and Curry still swished it.
rob is hilarious. i love it when he acts like this.
@@williamgray9692 So its people like you who allow for the existence of people like Rob Parker, and Skip Bayless who make a career doing constant mental gymnastics to betlittle others? While also being childish and condecending in his tone. He is a grown adult, this is nothing to love or admire. Yikes. It's the same copy and paste, lazy, predictable arguments where the goal post gets moved depending on who they're discussing. It's so disingenuous and actually belittles the game of bastetball and its complexity down to casual fan Twitter takes.
@@williamgray9692 assuming you're also drowning in tears given the fact that you felt the need to respond, which means it triggered an emotional response, I just hope you take your own advice. Or you're probably just 12. For you're sake, I hope you're 12.
Go check his another take: Tom Brady is Rober Horry of NFL!!!!!!!!!
Curry averages 27 ppg in 6 finals series.. Averaged 27, 9 and 8 in the 2017 Finals. He's been absolutely brilliant in most of every Finals he's played in.
Rob has zero arguments. Chris is making him look awful in these segments
I love Chris not prepared for a big shot argument. The shot in game 4 with a minute left was massive
Before Chris said his top 10 I decided to pause the vid and make my top 10. Our list was almost identical. I had Wilt over Russell. Honestly he kinda changed my view on that. Well done Chris you’re the goat
I can't put wilt over russell because they played in the same Era and russell had 9 rings to wilts 2. Now Russell did play with 9 hall of famers lol.. I think we gotta start looking at these old guys for what they were. Legends of the game but some of them aren't as good as we make them out to be. Russell averaged 15PPG for his career. Yea he has 11 rings but there was only 8 teams in the league and playoff series were only 5 games. All of this stuff matters.
The entire game 4 was clutch
Yea he also hit a floater to take lead from 1 to 3. Then took it 3 to 6
But that doesn't make him top ten
@@fuckyourfeelings3360 lol he’s top 10 make 10 better players
@@fuckyourfeelings3360 No, his entire career does.
@@fuckyourfeelings3360 Yes it does.
I respect Chris and Shannon so damn much, because the absence of logic in the arguments they face every single day is astounding. Stay strong, men
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According to Rob Parker’s logic, Robert Horry is one of the greatest of all time.
Shaq is top 5 scoring all time, steph is 47th, Shaq has more mvps more final mvps more all defensive selections so Chris comparing shaq doesn’t make sense, steph is top 15 all time not top 10
@@Capcaller300 his point was Shaq never hit what we’d call an iconic “clutch” shot, like a buzzer beater or something. Still easily qualifies because of how he completely dominated games.
Without Curry they don't win this series like they did. From the 4th game on it was all Steph Curry more than not. They couldn't find an answer for him, and in turn everything else they tried to do just fall apart. That 3-pointer that he hit in the last game was a critical iconic shot which basically closed the door on the series. This is reminding me of the Derek Jeter commentaries where everyone said that he did this that and the other, though he wasn't a power home run hitter? And all Derek did was hit for a .300 average more or less and won I think five world series with the Yankees?
The Warriors could've added any other good player to that team and would've won the same amount of chips. People act like the Warriors were lunchmeat when KD joined. KD went along for the ride just like any other solid player that we could've gotten would've. Stop the hate
What else does Rob need to see from Steph? Score a clutch shot down 3 from the halfcourt line? Come back down 30 in the 4th in the finals? Win DPOY, MVP, scoring title, and Finals mvp with a 50/50/95 splits all in the same year? It's getting ridiculous what some analysts are wanting Steph to do just to give any respect.
Not everyone can be like Michael Jordan in the Finals. 1991 Game 3. 1992 Game 4. 1997 Game 1 & 5. 1998 Game 6. More playoff series ending game winners than Kobe, LeBron, KD, and Steph combined. It's hard to be like Mike, man.
But what happened to my idol Jorchoke in the 80s and 1996? 😂
@Lee Keele I mean Bill was definitely a G, but there were also only 8 teams in the league in the time
@@nostalgiacorner1999 what happen to lebum in 2007 2011 and 2018 he got swept twice in the finals and loss to mavs with 1 allstar against his 3 allstars 😅
Shaq Alley from Kobe was pretty iconic moment in his career
That is why I think Rob is wrong. If you get yourself so flustered, you can't remember that moment than you must subconsciously think you are wrong.
Shaq's big moment was the alley oop against Portland. However, I'd argue that Steph's big moment was when Gary Payton II passed up a wide-open shot to let Curry swish a contested shot.
I think we have to redefine clutch playmaking because of how fast teams can come back and flip the game. Boston could have easily came back and took the lead if it weren’t for Steph hitting some key layup and a 3 to weather that storm.
I mean he's just outside it for me but its subjective list. What we can all agree on is that Rob Parker is so inconsistent with his takes its criminal
Rob Parker got his girlfriend stolen by a Steph Curry back in high school he's not over it yet lololol
Rob is such a buffoon. There’s no “pressure” to make a shot when a team has a 10 point lead, yet if the Celtics were to come back and win the game he would have said that Steph “choked” or was a “no-show”. Rob literally hates that Steph IS in the top ten and is looking for every excuse to diminish his legacy. Keep it up Rob, at this rate you might lose your job for such ridiculous and nonsensical arguments.
Rob is the type of guy that would get into a debate with a 3 year old
Even Kobe doesn't have as many memorable moments in the Finals except the Sprain Ankle Game. His only clutch shot was in 2004 to send it to OT. Skip and Rob wants to compare Steph to Mike but Mike is incomparable.
Game 4 finals against the Pacers and Game 3 finals against the 76ers. I suggest you watch both games. However, Steph was clutch against the Celtics. Also watch the Lakers 2000 conference semi's against Suns in game 2.
@@zeaferjones1404 they’re talking finals I believe. Anyways, Kobe has choked and played horrible way more than Steph ever has. Steph only has one bad series on his resume
@@sheamonty3152 The Lakers vs Pacers was a finals series so I suggest you watch game 4. The 76ers vs Lakers was also a finals series and I suggest you watch game 3. I mentioned the 2000 conference semis against the Suns game 2 just to give you guys a little more context.
@@zeaferjones1404 I realize, but all of them weren’t finals games lmao.
@@sheamonty3152 The only one that isn't a finals game that I mentioned was the Suns in game 2 in the 2000 conference semis. The other games are finals games.
Chris Broussard had wilt number 5 a few years ago when he was on undisputed now he’s dropped him out of the top 10 wtfff
True hypocrisy. Smh like be consistent chris.
It's called changing your mind. Chris didn't realize Wilt was such a choker but now he's know better. You should try knowing better too.
If anything he should move out the person he had at number 10.
Hearing the older players contextualized is always mind boggling. People make those guys seem like gods.
So the warriors should of let the Celtics take the lead just so curry can make a “big shot”? Lol what a 🤡
Well said! Rob is a hater, as is Skip Bayless, Nick Wright & Max Kellerman! Give this man his flowers NOW!
The wilt disrespect is crazy
Wilt had Elgin Baylor and Jerry West as teammates but only won 2 championships. Wilt was notorious for stat padding and the reason is he took way too many shots to boost his points and that's not consistent winning basketball. Wilt's stats drop drastically in the playoffs 30 pts a game on 51% free throw shooting in the regular season, 22 points on 46% free throw shooting in the playoffs. Wilt took 39 shots a game when he averaged 50 points that's just way too excessive. I'm not trying to be harsh I just don't like when people don't include context when they bring up stats and Lebron fanboys are the absolute worst in that category. I'm not saying you're a fanboy I'm just saying in general.
Warra 3rd championship for my idol Wilt Statpadderlain
@@Renegade77784 the crazy thing is we say harden and Westbrook are hof and kd are locks, and wilt lapped their stats
Every game this series was a double digit win so there really wasn’t opportunities for a big shot in rob terms
I think LeBron, KD, and Kawhi must look at next year as they don't want to watch Steph keep winning rings. LeBron is stuck at 4. KD and Kawhi are stuck at 2. But out of those 3, KD seems the least motivated to win any more rings.
Can't assume the Warriors will automatically be back. Winning is hard.
Bron and Kawhi know they can actually win rings KD probably not motivated because of the “greats” of this era he the only one who ain’t been able to overcome the best
I'm not gonna be caught in the moment. I do believe a 5th ring would put him in top 10 for sure.
What are you talkin bout? Why does a fifth ring have to propel him in the top ten when majority of the people in the top ten doesn’t have five?
If he gets 1 more I’ll have him at 6th all time next to Tim Duncan
@@Husslenot1201 5 out of 10 have 5 or more Duncan magic kobe bill Russell Kareem the others often listed by people includes Oscar LeBron wilt Shaq Hakeem bird..... 5 championships almost garuntee steph a spot on most ppls list
@@robd1811 that’s what I’m saying. Why does that fifth chip guarantees him a top 10 spot while half of them don’t have 5? Top 10? If you going off chips then bill Russell should be one but y’all aren’t going off of that
The moment? 4 rings in 8 years. Only unanimous mvp, back 2 back mvps and the greatest shooter of all time. Tf you talking about bruh
Rob trying to punish Steph for not being down and making a shot lol
Who had a big shot when all games now are now blowouts or loss? Why should I make a big shot if I can build a lead and never look back?
Big facts
lol exactly dumbest thing I ever heard
14 15 people in our top 10. Basically every NBA fan ever 😂
Bottom line . Rob Parker will
Never fully embrace Steph curry as a great player . It almost seems personal . A 4th championship didn’t do much to change things in rob Parker’s eyes lol smh
@Beery dam lol
to not believe hes in the top 10 doesnt mean you dont like Steph. You can think there are 10 players better than Steph all time without being Steph hater
That is where I differ. I also criticized Curry for not stepping up in the playoffs but that is because I like Curry and I think he could perform so much better than he played in those first two Cleveland series. Now that Curry basically dominated a great defense in the finals that shut down Durant and Giannis, he has proved himself.
@Beery the light skin card?
@@zeaferjones1404 Stephen Curry averaged 26.0 points, 6.3 assists and 5.2 rebounds in 6 games in the 2015 NBA Finals. I won't even bother with the 2017 and 18 numbers because I'm sure you'll just mention the super illegal alien Kevin Durant to discredit his impact. Steph been proved himself. All he did was add on to the legend.
Rob’s says Steph doesn’t have the “body of work” to be in the top ten?
A two time MVP (one unanimously), 4 time NBA champion, 8 time (and counting) all star, finals MVP, and the greatest shooter of all time.
Mr. Parker is either a hater or just wants to go against the grain for the heck of it like Marcellus Wiley does.
Either way, it’s not a good look.
I can see where Broussard is coming from concerning Wilt, but his stats are too amazing to keep him out of the all time top ten.
For me, I put Steph in my top ten and switched him with Oscar Robertson (sadly).
Disgrace what some people are doing too Wilt's legacy. When Jordan was playing in his prime people were debating who was the greatest Wilt Chamberlain or Michael Jordan. Now 20+ years later Wilt isn't top 10 fuckin ridiculous man!
Wilt will never leave the top 10 for me. But back then, it was definitely less about the rings than in modern sports media. Now its only about the rings and the quality of those championships (i.e. LeBron's 2016 ring to KD's 2017 and 2018 rings).
Rob Parker is doing his best skip bayless impression. They just have to face it curry is top 10 now, before this finals everyone said he can’t carry a team to a finals without kd and they said they had to see him do it and win finals mvp. He did exactly that and now people like rob Parker and skip still discredit him smh
Those single digit finals games were at the end of Wilts career post knee surgery while performing as defensive anchor.
Learn your history better Chris.
Oh OK I was like surprised by those numbers so they happened late in his career
Parker is saying people should drag themselves into threatening situations in order to make big shots and become great players
Chris has a good list
top 5 is more than just being great individual player. you must also be a great team player. your team must have dominated the era. along with amazing, divine, mindblowing team and individual feats that will never be surpassed.
top 5 must have tremendous impact on the game, revolutionized the game, beyond accolades and stats.
that's why Curry is easily top 5.
1. Curry's Warriors dominated the league for most of the decade, and still not done. 4 rings in 6 finals appearances within 8 year span, hasn't been done in over 20 years. Set new regular season record for wins. A system that even other superstars are envious and enticed to be a part of.
2. Curry has better playoff games winning rate than other top 10 nominees. He has won 69.40% of his playoff games. The next closest is Magic with 67.37%. OTOH Wilt and Hakeem has won only 55% and 52% respectively their playoffs games.
In terms of playoff series winning rate, Curry is second only to Russell. Where Russell won 93.10% of his playoff series, and Curry won 84.62%. Again Wilt and Hakeem has won only 62% and 55% respectively their playoffs series.
Thus Curry and his Warriors dominated both regular season and post season. Including record-setting 73 wins, and unstoppable 16-1 playoff run.
3. Curry set new records that weren't even in existence until he came along. Most importantly, everybody is changing their game, play style, skill set, in order to try to chase his records. that's revolutionary. everyone, even bigs, centers, forwards, that used to only attack the paint, now must learn to shoot 3s because of Curry's monumental influence.
4. Leadership. NBA is ultimately a team sport. Curry's leadership and charisma fosters a winning culture. A culture that turns a downtrodden franchise into a dynasty.
Best part of this debate... Steph Curry gives zero Sh!ts what Rob and anyone like Rob thinks.... Curry the man. He might even where a shirt next year that says ROB YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!
This man really said 43 master piece in game 4 of the Finals wouldn't be in Curry's career highlights. WTH is this man smoking? Or even game 1 when he made 6 three pointers in the first quarter. That's also definitely going in the hightlights.
No Hakeem in your top 10 is crazy.
He was until Curry got his 4th ring.
@@thechild7355 curry ain't over the dream
Defense is apart of the game
@@kevkoning9065 It is but impact and accolades is more important. More MVPs, more scoring titles, more championships, and more finals appearances.
He only has 2 rings and got them when Jordan was playing baseball, he's not top 10.
@@thechild7355 finally somebody who understands
"Steph needs other things"? You mean how MJ needed Pippen, Shaq needed Kobe, Kareem needed Magic? C'mon man thats so stupid. Every superstar needed a supporting cast. If you can't acknowledge Game 4 was one of the most clutch performances in NBA history to avoid going down 3 games to 1, and putting up 43 against super tight defense on the road... You're just a hater and nothing more. That game was f'n legendary.
Lebron needed Kyrie/ Wade/ AD, Duncan needed Robinson/ Ginobli/ Parker, etc.
Also Steph doesn't hit as many big shots in the 4th quarter because he's spent a lot of his prime putting teams away EARLIER with big 3rd quarters. Can't judge clutch ability properly when your closer decides to finish the job early.
Rob HATES Steph with all of his fiber. Steph ain't clutch but he still praises Aaron Rodgers and this dude chocked in virtually every playoff games he has played.
Its hate because he doesn't have Steph in his top 10? Go to sleep. I don't have Steph in my top either. Get over it
Shout out to Broussard. My man speaks with integrity. When Rob speaks, I turn off the video.
I can’t believe Rob can give these takes with a straight face. The amount he contradicts himself is wild
On Shaq - “He doesn’t need one” LMAO
You can tell he was emotional because Shaq's big moment is obvious, but he was so flustered because he knows he is wrong about Steph's performance in this finals. Shaq's big moment was the alley oop dunk on Portland in game 7 and although Curry didn't have any moments that big I do think the shot where Gary Payton II passed up a wide open shot to let Curry make a contested shot was Steph's big moment of the finals.
@@zeaferjones1404 I think the ring shot and every night-night shot will be on every Steph highlight reel
Brew’s top 10 pretty solid.
The question for Steph is no longer top 10 its whether or not hes top 5
Bingo. I have him around 7.
I think top 5 is a stretch but top 10 is reasonable.
Steph could pass Lebron who most think is second.. what if t he gets another mvp and 2 more rings.its possible he's still in his prime
i got Curry in top 5, by sheer impact and influence on the game. single-handedly influenced entirely novel strategies offensively and defensively for all teams in the league.
its so funny rob parker wearing under armour .. lmao.... curry's brand
Just for the record, Rob says Stef has never had that shot well he's wrong but it's the hate that fuels his debates!! I can give you one shot instantly. The Shot Stef made against OKC when he literally got the ball a little over half court and shot the 3 to put them up by 3.
Oh, but that's a regular season game which means nothing, Rob would say LMAO
Rob also said that the team has to be down one when the big shot occurs. They can't be tied for it to matter.
Big shot? Yeah I got one for you Rob - the “Ring Me” shot from 35 feet out
They was already winning.. Big shot is Robert Horry back tap out hits the 3 for game that's a big shot
@@tj2nasty4ya83 so Horry top 10?
@@keneosegbo3788 in clutchness yes..
*Warriors* *Will* *Repeat* *In* *2023*
I just looked at the power rankings for next year and I have the same exact top 4: Warriors, Clippers, Bucks, & Celtics. I think the only team who can beat the Warriors are my Clippers but I'm not sure on that. Stephen A. Smith will be correct again. Warriors will repeat. This was the WORST version of the Warriors and they still won the title. They'll only improve with Klay getting his conditioning back. With Wiggins entering his prime. With Poole and Kuminga only improving. With Wiseman returning.
Kawhi and PG-13 are MJ and Kobe. They are archaic no different than LeBron, DWade, Melo, KD, DRose, Ja, etc. It doesn't work in this era. I'm not saying Steph is better than MJ or Kobe. I'm only talking their style of play in these current times. But the reason I'm giving my Clippers a puncher's chance is because they have the only coach who has beaten the Warriors whole. Draymond is wrong. They were beaten whole in 2016. He just didn't play Game 5. I'm aware Bogut got hurt but Kendrick Perkins got hurt in Game 6 of the 2010 Finals. Whole as in your core trio.
Ty Lue can get his players wide-open threes. They just need to make them. But Kawhi and Paul George are not the shooters of Steph, Klay, and Poole. I'm not sure Norman Powell has the clutch gene in him. He gagged in that play-in. Seems like a nice role player during the regular season like Lou Williams was. A lot of my team might look good in the reg season only to disappear when the playoffs hit. I'm looking at you, Paul George. My Clippers should've been the champs in 2021 if Kawhi didn't get hurt. Clippers must view the Warriors like the Lakers. They must HATE them.
If Bucks are healthy, they can return to the Finals. Giannis is the new LeBron in the East. Celtics caught a lucky break with Middleton out. But Bucks also caught a lucky break the year before with Harden hobbled and Kyrie out. If we get Warriors vs. Bucks, I still got Warriors. Bucks are taller but we're talking a dynasty vs. a one-hit wonder. Four rings clearly beats one. It's almost like if MJ's Bulls met Dream's Rockets in 1997 if Stockton didn't make that clutch shot.
The rest like the Suns, Celtics, Heat, & Sixers, I see teams that caught lucky breaks the last 2 years. Suns will still be good but they're championship frauds. CP3 will only get older. Looking like they want to get rid of Ayton. Booker and Butler lacks the deep range. Celtics probably won't return to the Finals next year if Bucks stay healthy. Heat just don't have enough firepower. The Sixers are still the Sixers. Annual underachievers. Their best team was in 2019 when they still had Butler and Redick. Won't get out of the 2nd round. Thanks, Doc & Beard.
As for the Nets and Lakers? The Nets are trash. Kyrie doesn't really want to be an NBA player any more. Only part-time. He seems content with his 1 ring. And KD is content with his 2 rings. They have a terrible culture like the Lakers do. The Nets as the 2nd choice in the betting is way too high. KD will probably never win another ring the longer he stays with Kyrie. Nets are full of enablers. Wiggins got vaccinated but Nets couldn't convince Kyrie to do it. Weak leadership.
The Lakers were just lucky in 2020. Bubble. No fans. No travel. No pressure. A near 5-month break to recharge their bodies only to play another 30 games in Disney World. AD seems content with his 1 ring. He seems lazier than Shaq. Low motor. Who knows if he gets hurt again and again next year? Westbrick is Westbrick. Even if we get LeBron & AD healthy, those guys from the 2020 team are mostly gone. I got them at 7th seed at best which is where Vegas has them. Of course by next week, it will be 95% Lakers talk because LeBron is there.
I'm already mapping out how I'll play next year's Finals. Cover the Warriors, Clippers, and Bucks. Then maybe add another 3 more teams when the regular season happens. My top 3 seed angle works. Just grab the top 3 from both conferences and you'll likely hit the Finals like 97% of the time.
Top 3 In West
1. Warriors
2. Clippers
3. Grizzlies (Ja = new Westbrick/DRose)
Top 3 In East
1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. Heat
As much as I hate the Lakers, if I see their odds really high, I might throw a few bucks on them. Why not? I don't bet with feelings. I hate the Warriors and they just made me close to $900. Need to put all your personal feelings aside when gambling. But again, I just don't see it with the Lakers. They completely fluked in 2020. But I know ESPN will keep talking about them even if they're an 11th seed again next year.
Luka might be the next big superstar and superstars usually get the furthest but he'll show up fat and is actually a poor shooter. I'm not too high on the Mavs. Maybe 2nd round but that's it. I still think the Grizzlies are better than the Mavs as a whole. Now expect Skip Bayless to keep hyping the Clippers and Grizzlies but I don't trust the Grizzlies enough. Still too inexperienced. I think Ja is fun to watch but I also think he's another Westbrick/DRose. He plays very dangerous. My Clippers with their experience can knock out the Grizzlies in the playoffs.
Put $100 on the Warriors to net $500. They're going to repeat barring no injuries. Steph is a transcendent player that Kawhi, PG-13, Giannis, Jokić, Kyrie, AD, Tatum, Butler, Booker, Embiid, and Ja are NOT. This is the honest truth. We have many stars but there are very few SUPERSTARS. And even fewer transcendent superstars like Steph. THE WARRIORS ARE BACK! And no team is going to stop their bullet train.
Wow. You wrote a lot
Tl;dr
Chris never let's rob finish his point. JUST LET HIM FINISH! He let him finish
Exactly. He is so damn rude. I wish they were in the same room sometimes
Omg I was wrong just watched Jimmy's video and gotta remove wilt for Curry didn't realize how little wilt contributed to winning and its ridiculous how much Curry has.
Why have a conversation with someone who’s so emotional about a team where they can’t be objective?
What bout defense like steals, bocks and rebounds? Or mid range shots? Post moves?
he got midrange
Kevin Durant was a bus rider
Steph actually led the league in steals twice and in his Finals career he avg 5.8 Rebs with 55 steals and 11 blks.
@Beery Perimeter defense was unimportant in the 80s, dude.
Lol post moves from a guy 6’2”? Lol 😂 just say you dont knkw basketball without saying it
Rob will never give curry his credit. If he had missed those layups while Boston was trying to come back rob would say he missed shot after shot down the stretch and allowed Boston back into the game. Hitting those shots was big because it prevented Boston from getting back in the game.
Rob hates anybody that the world adores Tom Brady Steph lebron
Lol
Don’t forget Matthew Stafford
Curry benefits for being a dominate player. He doesn't usually win/lose close. It's rare he has a buzzer beater because they typically win by 5+. Wouldn't that make you better if you're usually not in a situation where you need to hit buzzer beaters? I guess Dame is better if big shots are the case lol.
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Exactly Chris. Impact on the game: Steph has selflessness, playing basketball the right way and leadership. In addition to that, he’s a transcendent player. He revolutionized the game in such way that other teams, players, kids are trying to mimic today .
What do you expect from Rob? When Tom Brady won 7th SB, he said Brady was Robert Horry.
When Robert started hating a player, that player is closed to GOAT
Man...we really got to get the the source of all this Steph hate. The more he accomplishes the more glaring it is to see. After Steph won this Chip and FMVP, several people over the course of the last 3 days have been desperately sweating trying to find SOMETHING new, because they can't process that he actually accomplished the thing they didn't think he could pull off. I wish some of these dudes would be honest beforehand, and just say it
You don't believe a person 6'3 and under can be in the top 10 even if they are just as great or greater than someone 6'5 and up, there is this unspoken gatekeeping/bias going on in media when I look at all of the analyst top 10 lists, I think this is going on with Steph currently
Just my opinion, feel free to disagree.
Everything you said is facts they hating on him cause he literally has a chance to be top 3 all time!!!
People should just say "I don't like him, and he can never do enough."
Not sure about previous finals but this time it was just Steph, he carried gsw on his back in the finals. Had he not played the way he did in game 4th, gsw had almost lost the series.
Here's what Rob Parker is saying, MJ hit the game winning shot over Bryon Russell in the '98 NBA Finals Game 6 and Magic Johnson hit the game winning baby sky hook shot in the '87 NBA Finals Game 4. Steph Curry missed two 3 pt attempts in the 2016 NBA Final Game 7 & a 3pt attempt in the final seconds in the 2019 NBA Final Game 6.
Steph's complete package is based on his long range from 3 pt land and can make a lot of them during the regular season & post season, but when it comes to the finals, he doesn't have a memorable 3pt shot that we can all point to and say that's the greatest shot he's made in the NBA Finals. My personal reason for keeping Steph Curry in the Top 11 - 15 is totally different than what Rob Parker is saying.
When it comes to impact Steph does have an impact on winning, and never changed team.
Doesn't make him top 10. Everyone up there can effect the game.
Did you forget that Steph flew across the country to beg Durant to save him after he got walked down by LeBron and Kyrie? Interesting how you didn't mention that
There wasn’t even one buzzer beater to win the game in the entire playoffs run for the Warriors. Rob wants to see the scenario that was non-existent 😂.
Game 4 was one of the greatest individual performances I've ever seen
When Chris asked Rob what big shot did Shaq make Rob just made up something real quick. He said Shaq didn’t have to hit a big shot because he averaged 30. He set himself up. Black Skip gotta stop
Game 4 Steph made a floater to put them up 3 next possession hits a three to put them up 6. If he makes either they go down 3-1. Stop hating Rob
Rob is a hater 43 points that’s big shots and they was down 2-1 smh and won 3 in a row
Game 6 Steph scored 34 points but only had four attempts at the free throw line where he was 4 out of 4. The best defense this year in the playoffs and I think 🤔 during the regular season was the Boston Celtics. You mean to tell me this light skin brotha scored 34 points and only had four trips to the line? I’d love to see this statistics from past NBA finals MVP’s to see the number of points in the last game and the number of trips to the free throw line those MVP’s had. I’m sure not on Steph’s level. The brotha is for sure top ten. Easy.
I like chris, but him moving Wilt outside of his top 10 is strange, considering he had Wilt fifth in his list a few years ago.
PARKER GOTTA STAY OFF HIS PHONE HE REALLY DONT BE LISTENING TO EVERYTHING THATS NOT COOL BUT CHRIS IS ALWAYS LISTENING THE WHOLE TIME PARKER TOO BUSY TEXTING ESCORTS LOL AND IG GIRLS
Chris carries rob ever since the show started
Parker logic “Shaq averaged 30, he didn’t need one.” I mean Steph averaged 30 in this finals? Weak ass argument.
Top 15, 20 yes. Top 10, not yet. We gotta see how his career pans out.
I’d love to hear your top 10 and why curry isn’t in it
4 NBA Titles
1 FMVP
2 Regular season Mvp
8 All Stars appearances
1st All-time in 3 pointers made in NBA history
4x First team
3× Second team
2× NBA scoring leader
Top 10 of All Time
Score = Rings x MVP x FMVP
Sample: Horry = 7 x 0 x 0 = 0
Top Player Rings MVP FMVP Score
1 MJ 6 5 6 180
2 Jabbar 6 6 2 72
3 LeBron 4 4 4 64
4 Bill 11 5 n/a 55
5 Magic 5 3 3 45
6 Duncan 5 2 3 30
7 Bird 3 3 2 18
8 Shaq 4 1 3 12
9 Kobe 5 1 2 10
10 Curry 4 2 1 8
Wilt 2 4 1 8
He has two more chips than Wilt and Hakeem 🤣🤣
Rob didn't bring a list or provide any info but had the nerve to demand details from Chris. Rob stop embarrassing yourself
Rob come on, it's like saying MJ isn't the goat cause he was never played great in a finals game 7... He didn't have to, cause he played well enough to not have to be in that position.
Great point😂 I wish someone can bring that up one day. Rob is a Robber
You can think there are 10 players better than Steph all time without being a Steph hater. Hes not MJ
@@spenser6353 no one said he was. My point was about the "big shot" reasoning. Steph is too 10. He's better than Shaq, Bill Russell, Oscar, KD, Wilt....
@@Chezkenny he’s not better than any of those guys 😂 those guys were a force on defense. He’s not
@@spenser6353 only bill Russell was... And he was really bad on offense, 15PPG ON 44% FG and 56% FT... HOW IS THAT A TOP10 PLAYER
I really don’t understand this argument for the need to hit a big shot. The objective of the game is to win. The greater the lead, the greater the chances of winning. How many games in the history of the NBA comes down to a single shot to win the game? Personally, I don’t think the big shot is as great as people make it out to be. Because it means the winning team is not outright better and there is an element of luck involved.
2019 Game 6 finals..
@@tj2nasty4ya83 Steph missed a few big 3PT and if he had hit just 2 more then they would have gone to a game 7. But Klay went down and he was the only offensive threat, so the defence collapsed on him. TBH all this debate between the players, media, and fans don’t really matter. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is their impact on the lives of their fans and how well they manage their money.
@@empiricalpurity if u being honest with urself n look at that shot he was open enough to hit it.. Hell I've seen steph hit some crazy 3s with more difficulty than that shot he missed..
@@empiricalpurity n facts to the second half of that.. Everyone is debating just to pass time..
@@tj2nasty4ya83 I agree. Steph did have a couple of open looks. It’s a hit or miss league and he missed crucial shots that could have changed the course of history. That’s what people like Skip holds against him since 2016.
The "Dream" is top 10
THANK YOU!!! The disrespect is sickening
Rob is just mumbling. Winning a 4th ring doesn’t do much for Curry but losing diminishes his greatness. Just imagine what will come out of Rob’s mouth if GSW had lost this finals.
Rob is trying so hard to keep his persona as a GSW hater 😂😂😂
A top ten is subjective. We need to start saying is this person top ten of his era? Steph is definitely top 5 of his generation.
That's the problem we are basically splitting hairs. In fact, if you give Iverson one title, he is in the top 10. If you give Iverson 2 titles, I might put him above Lebron because the 76ers team he carried to the finals was much worse than the early Cleveland teams. At least Mo Williams could score 20 points per game. Iverson didn't have anyone that could consistently score 10.
Yes Chris does talk over & cut Rob off everytime on site right after Rob says some dumb stuff.
Every time.
@@royalcityfamilia7159 You probably a Skip fan.
rob parker is a pure hater of steph curry, while chris broussard is talking he is looking in his phone to find a way how to counter attack chris, he didnt really watched the NBA Finals, what a clown 🤣