Mr. Olympia Legends Rivalry: Arnold Schwarzenegger vs. Sergio Oliva
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Welcome back, fitness enthusiasts! Today, we're diving into the captivating world of bodybuilding and exploring the legendary rivalry between two titans of the sport: Sergio Oliva and Arnold Schwarzenegger. From their humble beginnings to their incredible achievements, these two icons revolutionized bodybuilding and left an indelible mark on the sport. Join us as we take a deep dive into their journeys, their fierce competition, and the lasting legacy they've left behind. Get ready to be inspired!
Sergio Oliva, born on July 4, 1941, in Guanabacoa, Cuba, is considered one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time. His incredible physique and unmatched strength propelled him to become a dominant force in the world of bodybuilding during the 1960s and 1970s. Oliva's journey from humble beginnings to the pinnacle of the sport is a testament to his determination and dedication.
Two legends that looked awesome. This is not something you see anymore. Bodybuilders today are grotesque.
3:11 - This is not correct. Oliva did not “dethrone” the reigning champion (Larry Scott); Scott retired after winning the '66 Olympia (beating Oliva in the process). He didn't compete in '67.
Yes in his own word told Joe W I can not ever beat this guy I’m done!!!!
@@peterodriguez5636 He DID beat him, though -- convincingly -- in 1966. (He must have said or meant "beat him again.")
I saw Sergio guest pose at a contest in 1980 and I still haven't seen anyone who could touch that.
❤️ late 1960s & early 1970s Sergio Oliva body invincible, & unbeatable 😊
Oliva had a higher peak, genetically better than any body builder, that 27 inch waist .....wow😮
As good as Sergio was at his peak 74-75 Arnold was superior IMO. The overall shape from head to toe. Everything just flowed together perfectly. Check out the video of Arnold and Franco at the poolside posing....
He had no legs Arnold is the most overrated body builder of all Time.
@@robbie6833 Lol, what are you 16 years old? Look at pictures of Arnold from the 74 Mr Olympia and tell me he had weak legs. The guys today look like total shit, big bloated bellies, thin layer of fluid between skin and muscle from insulin abuse not matter how lean they look, weird looking body parts from site enhancement oils, no one can pose anymore and they all have the personality of a rock. But Arnold has weak legs ...no he doesn't have over blown development that not only looks redundant but ridiculous. But ok your the authority
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@@robbie6833 An opinion held by maybe 3 uninformed, ignorant idiots in the world.
@@robbie6833Arnold Schwarzenegger by far had the best legs of any of his contemporaries.
1973/74 he was perfectly balanced.
Sergio Oliva won the Mr. Olympia three years running and Larry Scott retired before Sergio began his three year reign.
Yes Sergio would have won 5 Mr O before even Arnold could stand next to him (wide waist bad quads & small Hamstring!
Look up the 1974 or 1975 yes big Arms but not Oliva size best Chest for sure ( Back nothing because of a wide waist!
1989 was the worst but con man Dady Joe W Robed Mike Menzer
@@peterodriguez5636 Yep no doubt. Joe Wieder disqualified Sergio in 71 and basically paid Sergio off by letting him guest pose for a check ! And I believe your referring to the 1980 Mr Olympia . Arnold was allowed to break every rule they had in place and still won the competition !
@@peterodriguez5636 Soft legs and midsection (poor conditioning) he could rarely keep his midsection tucked in, higher lats from the front. Lackluster definition in his arms. This plagued him throughout his career. The best he ever looked was 1972 under the training of Arthur Jones.
@@waynestone6462 Sergio and others (including Franco Columbu and Bill Pearl) were disqualified from the 71 Olympia for competing in a rival Mr. Universe. Stop your BS. Sergio's worst enemy was Sergio.
@@WhyAreTheyOverHere First of all Joe Wieder disqualified Sergio because he didn't want his boy beat Fanco and whoever else was not a threat ! He was seen arguing with the judges at the 1970 Mr Olympia and actually replace a couple of them at the last minute ! Arnold Schwarzenegger won . Arnold Schwarzenegger himself said Sergio Olivia was in a class by himself what other proof do you need ! Also the comments you made about Sergio Olivia conditioning was plain wrong ! Just look at the 1972 Mr Olympia in Germany there is no way on earth Arnold Schwarzenegger or any other bodybuilder there that night beat that version of Sergio Olivia ! Arnold was gifted at least three of his Olympia titles !
Sergio was gigantic and dangerous looking
Late 1960s & early 1970s invincible Sergio Oliva
Hey I like both of them
Sergio oliva n1
Totalbodybuilder arnold
Arnold is greatest bodybuilder to ever walk on the stage!!!!!!!!
Was good but not 7 times Mr Olympia ,he was cheating twice
Not hardly
Sergio never had to pose in knee deep water like Arnold.
Sergio never had calf implants like Arnold, either
@@lateralus2199 You have some evidence for this 'calf implant' claim? If not, you should retract it.
@@Eugene_Connor That's been known for many years. There has been ongoing allegations that Arnold had calf implants which include these people have said about Arnold, were/are, Dan Lurie, Robby Robinson, Mike Quinn, Mike Katz, Roger Callard, Ric Drasin and others
Me:
Height: 9 feet 10
Weight: 3,750 pounds
Biceps: 575 inches
Height: 11 foot 6
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Arnold King
You are using many historical/copyrighted photos-please make an effort to attribute the photos to the photographers who created them!
Arnold: "The best is not the biggest but the most perfectly developed." And Arnold was, slightly, more perfectly developed than Oliva.
Arnold has bigger waist and stomach than Sergio.
And Sergio had bigger legs,back .
Arnold was better. Period.
How does Schwarzenegger bend his hands like that?
Arnold was superior with more definition and size, better than Sergio.
More size? Hell you say !! Sergio's back . deltoids . triceps . traps . quadriceps . hamstrings . and forearms made Arnold Schwarzenegger's looks sick ! In Arnold Schwarzenegger's book the education of a bodybuilder Arnold said the first time he saw Sergio oliva in person he was in a mild state of shock ! It was at 1969 Mr. Olympia which Arnold got beat ! Talking out your arse fella !
Not hardly. Sergio outweighed Arnold in the 72 Olympia. All of his body parts were bigger (exception of the chest--which were close). Bigger back, bigger delts, biceps, triceps, forearms, quads, hamstrings, calves and a smaller waist. Sergio was a genetic Marvel
@@lateralus2199 In 72 Olympia Arnold had bigger biceps with more definition and more difined legs. Man you have eye problem, i rewiewed the photos of this Olympia and Arnold was superior in size and definition, Sergio had a good abdominal line and good back but Arnold was superior.
@@trashbasementproductions223 Not hardly fella. Sergio's arms were definitely bigger. His insertions of his biceps were longer extending past elbow joint which equates to bigger biceps. Arnold's were more peaked. Sergio triceps and forearms were bigger as well, as Arnold's were piss poor. Triceps account for 3/4 of arm mass. Sergio's legs were much larger as well. Arnold had glaring weaknesses that included, sloped shoulders, smaller delts, wide waist (opposite of Oliva's). Arnold knew this, which is why he twisted his hips to give the illusion of a smaller waist. Arthur Jones measured both Sergio's and Arnold's arm, and the measurements drastically came down from the Weider magazines. Arnold measured at 19 3/4" vs Sergio's at over 20" cold! Biggest at the time. Arnold was taller, and that's about it. Might want to make an appointment with a optician. Either you're blind or the one's (glasses) you have on now are clearly not working for you. Hell maybe the ones you have on now, are so thick, you could probably burn ants with them
@trashbasementproductions223 Sergio had larger arms than Arnold at least in the early 70's when Arthur Jones measured them
The debate betw Sergio and Arnold, who was best, is a good one. Even side by side photos make it so close. I think big Lou was most impressive and made both of them look small.
Lou was tall but both Sergio and Arnold were better
@@odessafile75 judging and peoples taste have always been emotional and subjective. Mr. O judging was usually political too (Weider politics). Eg., Gunter was both bigger and more aesthetic than Ronnie several times but Ronnie was Weiders chosen one. Like a beauty contest, not fair much of the time. 5’10” to 6’ is the ideal height but that too is arbitrary. Gunter was 6’2” so he was out of there. Big Lou never had a chance, not because he wasn’t “better,” On stage, he was much more impressive than Arnold or Sergio or anyone. But height is penalized.
@@mikemccormick8115 While, I understand your point about height I don't think Ferrigno's physique was as developed as Arnold, Sergio, Robby Robinson and many others. Just my opinion. Good Night.
@@odessafile75 fair enough.
Big Lou F would have Beaton Arnold on the Day he won the Mr Universe but daddy Con man Joe W & Arnold but talked Lou of competing on the Mr O on the same day
Two con man & then Big Lou got a Acting $$$$$ making at the time that could not be pass
What Happened To Robbie Robinson Rob of a Mr O but the contract $$$$ could not talk
The word is pronounced 'un-way-vering'. I can't believe you never heard that word before.
I don’t think Arnold should’ve won against Sergio, I think they got that one, and if the playing field was fair, arnold physique wasn’t better than Robby Robinson either
Facts….
@@roderickberry2508 Not facts. Nothing but opinion.
@@Eugene_Connor I love Arnold too but it was a fact
@@roderickberry2508 Robinson looked great, but he was a manlet. Arnie outsized and outclassed him. Nobody beats Arnie at his best. Nobody.
@@Eugene_Connor that’s the point he wasn’t at his best and politics give him a win a couple times in contest facts
Sergio was better than Arnold
The Myth
Sergio was an incredible bodybuilder. He was huge. But Arnold had a more refined body....bigger pecs....much higher peak to his biceps than Sergio. I don't think Sergio had the greatest posing routine either.
And Sergio's lat spread. Most muscular. Victory pose. Anything to do with Quads. Hamstrings. Traps . Triceps. Deltoids. Forearms. Blew Arnold Schwarzenegger away ! On top of that Sergio calf development was on par with Arnold . Now pecs and biceps Arnold had a slight edge . You say Sergio had bad posing ? What about Ronnie Coleman's posing routine ? 8 time Mr. Olympia and all he did was that raise the roof mess ! Pump his arms overhead and hit a pose over and over !
Here's how I see it. Sergio had bigger arms, much bigger legs, and a smaller waist than Arnold. Arnold knew how to peak and how to pose. He was also, let's just say, more marketable during that time. Take that for what you will. From what I've been able to see, Sergio's physique in 1972 should have taken the title, but if you look at the right shots at the right time, Arnold does look like the winner.
@@stevegeorge6880Very good analogy . But like Around stated himself it was very difficult to look impressive beside Sergio Olivia and that he felt small and underwhelming when he posed against him also that pictures did Sergio no Justice that in real life he looked God like ! I know a couple of decades ago a fellow gym rat had a collection of old bodybuilding competitions on VHS tape . One was a NABBA competition from the late 1970s and the Myth dominated the competition . The only man on stage that came close was Bertil Fox but when Bertil took on Sergio in a lat spread ! Well let's put it this way Bertil Fox should not have done that !
Remember, liitle Frank Zane even beat Arnold once!.....
because Arnold was new to american bodybuilding... he had no definition, no tan, just mass. That was enough in Europe, but not in the US.
@@AndrasMihalyiThen he shouldn't of entered with all of those things wrong with him. He lost as a result
@@lateralus2199 Yes because you have to enter your first Mr Olympia when you are perfect and finish first... 🤦♂ So every other competitor who finished worse than Zane in 1969 should have (not "should of") stayed home too according to your "logic".
@@AndrasMihalyi When you enter the Olympia, you should be at your best no matter what, since this is the biggest BB contest there is. "So every other competitor who finished worse than Zane in 1969...?" We're talking about the 68 Mr Universe in Miami. Not in a contest in 69. Understand? Arnold in that contest, should of known how BB's in the U.S. looked compared to Europe. Why didn't he research, before he entered? He should of known how Frank Zane presented himself in how to prepare for a contest. Arnold lost because he was soft, white (with no tan), etc; If you are going to enter a high caliber contest (at the time), better to come prepared
To me Serge Nubret was was good as Sergio.and in close to Arnold for symmetry of not better
Sergio could never get his conditioning down,otherwise he would have been superior to Arnold
Sergio was always de best,he got robed by wider