A DEEP DIVE INTO ALTERNATIVE TIKTOK
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2021
- We take a deep dive into the world of alternative and emo TikTok! Who doesn't love the delicious combination of emo cringe and TikTok cringe??
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Gonna join twitch now! Also, thank you for all the new music. This video just turned me on to Real Friends, and you have pointed me into other musical directions that I probably wouldn't have known existed (Yes, i'm in my early 40's LOL) through your PRMBA channel. Keep up the amazing work, Finn! Love from Detroit!!
I'm from Los Angeles, so luckily in middle-high school (2006-2013) being emo/scene/punk/goth and unabashedly dressing so wasn't crazy (you can wear basically anything here and no one cares toooo much). I was more of a mall emo but had friends from all those subcultures. I always loved and wanted to adopt the scene aesthetic (not the band lol) but didn't think my african american hair could hang 🥺
I could so do great things with your hair and that look!
I’m black and I have classic emo hair. I just have to flat iron it.
Finn: When I was 16 I assassinated the Burger King.
By law of Burgercide that makes you the new Burger King.
*graceful bow*
I PLEDGE TO GIVE MY LIFE FOR YOU IF NECESSARY MY LIEGE
@@justinx590 🤣
Yo, Finn telling about his work and routine is actually more useful than 99% of that self-improvement bullshit which's on Internet
dammit Finn, i come here for the culture and the jokes and you got me thinking about my whole life.
TikTok is almost like an archeological thing, new generations are discovering old artifacts (mostly clothes and music), and attributing them new uses and meanings.
Some rock bands labeled as normie stuff back in the day (like Gun's and Roses, mid 2000s pop culture or MTV emo music) are basically part of some kind of new alternative aesthetic. You only have to add some anime and new emo/punk/metal-rap and hyper-pop and you have almost the full equation.
The “elder emo” thing is me. I’ve grown out of the “look” but if I’m probably listening to Motion City Soundtrack, Mayday Parade, Dashboard Confessional or any other band like that, maybe even The Acacia Strain or Whitechapel if I’m feeling really edgy that day. When people said “it isn’t a phase” they really meant it.
Never quit listening to the music. Same with all my friends. We just look like normal 20 year olds.
If 27 year olds are emo elders I must be an emo senior. 😂
At 31 I feel like I must be on life support
One of my friends is 29 and still basically in his emo phase. Not as deep into it as he was 15 months ago, but he's still there.
scene-ior citizen, actually
When I was into scene culture Monster was a huge deal. I think it's probably because everyone told you it was super bad for you and it could kill you. It was like doing drugs but far easier and less likely to ruin your life.
That being said I haven't felt a caffeine buzz in years and I need at least 160 mg of caffeine a day just to function.
Love Tyler from Tired Violence, we actually just signed him to the record label a few months ago and has been killing it on TikTok!
Thats great! Thank you Ghost Killer Entertainment
Thank you GKE, very cool!
"you can't get attached to things if they aren't working"
Time to put my dog up for adoption
"Emo" as a term was coined in the mid-80's, which is where the movement actually emerged out of the post-hardcore or Washington DC emocore scene with bands like Rites of Spring. Bands like "Fall out Boy" was actually part of what I call the 3rd Wave of EMO.
All I know about Monster is in Florida there's a 95% chance if the sticker is on a truck the driver will be shirtless 82% chance they'll attempt to fight you at the gas station and a 74% chance they commit domestic violence
I too live in FL.. and i agree with this statement
Last year I discovered that current alt culture is so way more self aware, inclusive and based post ironic funny than anything we had back in the day, I love this modern nonsense and I enjoy alt tok a lot!
Same, it's honestly really cool and refreshing
Ya, ok, alt is woke and inclusive. Gotcha. The old alt crowd I grew up with before the woke kids took it over are laughing at your stupid shit
@@bvonscott I can’t tell if ur ironic or not and that lowkey makes it better
Just sounds like the MySpace lolrawr so random nonsense from the early mid 2000s. Kids trying hard to sound weird and nonchalant.
Monster is part of any culture they can sponsor. They would sponsor a Bronie event if given the opportunity
TRUUUU
Eco-terorism is a much more respectable interest than "Look at my colorful hair, do I scare you? *plays SWS*"
As a guy who loves metal, country, punk, pop, classic rock, and hip-hop, I can safely say that there’s gatekeeping from each genre I listen to
The monster thing has been a emo/scene thing a while back in 2010/2013 all the scene girls at school had monster tab necklaces and drank it like it was water
And now they all have kidney stones 😂
we did that pre 2010. I graduated in 2008 and we were doing that shit when I was 15/16.
@@pageweaver6862 people collected the tabs and made necklaces with them
@petitmorte yep I remember getting excited everytime a new flavor came out bc it meant a new color tab. I had so many I made necklaces and Keychains and a pyramid of the different colored cans against my wall as decoration.
@@petitmorte2186 some of my friends still do it
My dude, I'm gonna be 41 in september and I've never stopped being emo. *shrugs* I always told my parents it wasn't a phase...
I'll be 39 in October. Still emo. If the 27 year olds are emo elders we must be the emo senior citizens.
I call that Mayday Parade thing "Dave Matthews Syndrome"; it's for any band who ostensibly has millions of fans but you don't know any.
Lol! Good term
Ah yes, the Three Days Grace and Skillet syndrome
I hate Dave Mathews, and I never heard a single song by Mayday Parade.
Hey that’s me! Rawring 20s baby let’s do it! Milkw33d x PRMBA let’s do it
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I'm down with your swoopy haired revival.
I knew you had to watch Finn’s videos from a lot of the stuff you say in your tiktoks lol
What up my dude! 🤘
5:14 pretty true. I know less than 5 people that dressed like this.. but they were gods in 2009
These videos are so fun man! Glad the 2nd channel has been growing!
Yo Finn, you look like you’re in your early 30s, keep doing what you’re doing my dude. Also thank you for your content, I generally hate marketing but you make it interesting, not just for bands/music but across industries.
🙏🏼
Dude I kid you not the year was 2009 I went to soma in San Diego. Me and my boy left the show, and hidden in something (I can’t remember if it was a tree or just like a window seal was a can of hairspray so me being like 14 i grab my lighter. As I am about to make a torch 2 scene girls come rolling up yelling “hey that’s our hairspray”. I laughed so damn hard.
Like the reaction videos on this channel. Good change of pace from PRMBA. Keep it up Finn!! 💪
Hey man, been a fan of your work for a while now. I've been subbed to your main channel for quite a while now and I just gave this video a shot and decided to sub here as well. The more loose feel of these videos is refreshing and I enjoy your perspective and life advice type stuff as well. I really like hearing your pov on things like careers because I'm now 31 and about to start classes for my Bachelor's in about a week. Watching your videos makes me feel like I'm not too late to try and get what I want in life, after years of partying and fucking off like a loser. Anyway, as tacky as it sounds you've been a big inspiration to me and I wanted to tell you that. Thank you.
Also, you should link your main channel on the "channels" section of this one, I'm sure there are more people like me who immediately check to see what other channels are available when they find content they like.
Thanks again, godspeed.
Thanks man!
when i was 14 and listened to Mayday Parade someone said to me "Is this McFly for self harmers?"
Spot on with the mayday parade observation lol. All the girls who liked them didn’t branch out further than fallout boy.
As a 30 year old who brazenly dresses like I want you to know Korn is my favorite band without saying it.......its just who I am. Nu Metal for Life 🤘🤘🤘🤘
This is something I've noticed about us millennials, some of us never quit dressing odd or different. All of my friends still have days where they dress very outrageous and bizarre.
Meanwhile all of my memories of my dad and mom were of them dressing so boring and uninteresting.
Tik tok reminds me of being a kid playing with a old school video camera that my parents had. Doing skits, lip singing to song etc.
You're the best, Finn. "Bait a Hook" is one of my favourite country songs for every reason you mentioned. "Somebody Else Will", "You Look Like I Need a Drink" and "The Ones That Didn't Make It Back Home" are some other terrific cuts from Justin Moore. Recently I've been getting back into synthpop (with artists such as GUNSHIP, September 87, Lazerhawk, etc.), what are your thoughts on the genre?
How uncool of you to mistake Modern Baseball for American Football. :^)
I've listened to You're Gonna Miss It All more times than I can even remember. Still hasn't gotten old.
ball
Both suck :)
Which is exactly why I listen to both of them. haha
@@KnivingDispodia You seem to fit your username perfectly.
As an elder emo, former mall screamo emo 04-08. Monster was an essential accessory to the mall rat ensemble
Emos are culturally appropriating Kyle culture with that Monster statement
Working for myself is hard. My boss can be a real jackass sometimes.
this whole context creeps me out so much watching a mid age man watching a teenager in her bikini
this is creepy AF
He didn't make it sexual though, he was genuinely listening to what she was saying
@@omegazx7236 lmao I swear you and all his viewers will do anything but just admit this dude has some issues
friendly reminder Finn dated his wife when he was 35 and she was 17
@@donglen4330 just shut up
I absolutely love Mayday Parade. I’m 39. In my teenage years (1997-2004)my favorite bands were Hole, Blink 182, Good Charlotte, The Used, MxPx, Social Distortion, Staind, Dashboard Confessional, Letters to Cleo, Korn, Coal Chamber, Third Eye Blind etc. all of these bands I still love to this day. So pop punk, emo, alternative, Nu-metal type genres but I like all different types of music but a majority of what I love falls into the rock/alternative group. About 3 years ago I started listening to some bands I’ve heard in the past just overlooked somehow like Mayday Parade, A day to Remember, and Pierce The Veil ( I couldn’t stand his voice when I first heard them so I didn’t dive further into their discography at that time ). All 3 of those bands have become part of my favorites. Mayday parade is an altogether great band. The lyrics, melodies, song arrangements, everything I love. They are down to earth and aren’t making music just for fame or money. They never disappoint with their live shows. Their fan base ranges from people my age to those in their late teens and twenties. And I wouldn’t say their fan base is too close to those who love Fall Out Boy ( I like some songs from them but don’t own every album they have or anything). Maybe could group the fan base of them to 04-08 bands that were signed to Hopeless Records.
My wife was really big into the scene 08ish and Her and her friends all had different monster energy drinks that was kind of their designated brand/color. She was legit 13 so I guess it was a thing
I mainly listen to metalcore but I can’t deny Doja Cat is one of my favorite artist
I remember chatting to a friend when I was 16 and he asked me what my favourite band was. I said Mayday Parade and he laughed and said ‘he doesn’t really see them as good enough to be anyone’s favourite band’. When I asked him his favourite band he said Brand New. For years I always saw that as an L on my part, but who’s laughing now, baby!
It’s actually hilarious that Finn mistook modern baseball for American football
😂
The two emo sport bands. (And Canadian Softball)
Don’t forget Chinese football… and that band just called ‘sports’ haha
He also mistook Knuckle Puck for Real Friends lol!! I love all these bands but they do sound similar for sure!!
I appreciate the tid bits of advice shared throughout this video!
Finn is like if Joe rogan had a baby with Henry Rollings
I hereby declare! Today we Form The "international Screamo, Protective, Collective!" May all people on the fringes be accepted and find the peace their hearts and minds have yet to give them!
A lot of scene / alt kids would use the Monster can tabs to make necklaces or collected / posed with the cans because they were colorful. I had a hoodie with a giant blue M on it at one point and stopped drinking that nasty stuff pretty early on
Those green tabs are nice looking. I wouldn't mind driving a car in that color.
I was in my late teens/early 20's when the whole "mall screamo/scene" thing was around in the uk and it definitely had a minute around 2005 where lots of people dressed like these scene kids but you'd mostly see them at either tours for the bigger bands in that scene like MCR or funeral for a freind (they were massive here at one point, not sure how well they did in the US) or at big live events like festivals oand alternative clubs/bars, if you went to a DIY show they'd be very thin on the ground so it definitely would be interesting to see what the Tik tok generation think that period was like
I was in my first couple of years of college in the UK during 2005 and the emo/scene "rawr means I love you in dinosaur" look was huuuuge here, knew loads of people who dressed that way. It's funny because the fashion divides even in the alt community were huge in that brief timespan, I was in the 'dress like Matt Heafy with skinny black jeans, stud belt, adidas classics (before they quadrupled the price) and classic thrash or maiden shirts'/every metalcore band with a black button up shirt. Loved it, but then you had the scene kids, pantera wanna-be-rebel, the 'hate everything thats come out in the last year unless its tr00 CvLt', still plenty of KoRn, Slipknot and Cradle of Filth hoodies going round, thats just a handful of what I'd see on a daily basis. And thats just 2005/06. Now everyone just looks the same. Its weird.
Correct Finn, mayday parade girls are normally preppy, normie girls you used to see at the Hollister store that have a slight alternative emo edge
Ily for this video bro. I love the RAWRing20s🦐
The "what you think I'm listening to" clip is so accurate to me 😂
Wise words at the end Finn. Love your content man.
Finn Mckenty looks like a 47 year old that still attempts to kick it with the 24 year old crowd.
I disagree he looks early 30s when he's actually 44/45
Whenever someone wishes they were in a previous era I remind them how much our social awareness and technology have advanced since then.
08:00 I've literally looked like that since 2010 😂 rocking that Beau Bokan look forever haha
Hes never changed😂😂. I approve of it though.
I have so many friends who were emo/scene kids back in the day and didn't really change. One is still hes emo self even at 29 and has effectively perfected his look to where I just can't criticize it. Plus he's still as skinny as when he was a teen.
If anyone is looking for the song at 10:30 its actually Untitled by Knuckle Puck. An understandable mistake since one of Real Friend's most popular songs, "From the Outside," has an opening line involving a ceiling. I'd been looking for the actual song for months and just found it lol.
Tyler from tired violence is awesome. Also had a METALCORE band called misgiving. Highly reccomend checking out all his stuff. Super nice dude aswell
I appreciate you so much ❤
@@tiredviolenceband LOVE THAT YOU GOT MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO :)
I have no idea what’s going on these days. Power to ya for staying on top of it haha
FINN YOU CALLED KNUCKLE PUCK REAL FRIENDS IM GONNA THROW UP REEEEEE
Omg they couldnt be more different!!!
Whenever I tell people I used to be a scene kid they always say "yeah I can tell"
Dude this is HILARIOUS !!
It's so weird. Seeing kids react almost the same way i did, to videos i've seen now, hundreds of times. I love tiktok. This goes under the same roast as mtvs change over to reality television.
as an early-2000s-borne pop-punk/metalcore/etc. fan and also someone who grew into country as well...not sure if anyone has said this yet but "bait a hook" literally has a nascar driver in it and the whole thing is like a self-parody and once I saw the video it seemed super self-aware to me and cool
I can hear the word prep being thrown around already lmao
Oh god, not again lol. its going to be Preps VS emos again
8:14
Lol.. I'm still rocking cords and grandpa shirts with vans in my mid-30s.
Dude I was a scene kid back in the day and now I’m a working cowboy. Life is weird
at the end of the vid you suggested abandoning things that don't work out right away, but is that not what happened to your youtube channel when you first started?
Yes, great point! I abandoned the original idea for the channel. But you’re right: it’s oftentimes unclear whether to keep going or bail. Theres a great book about this called “the dip”
I never stopped looking like 8:54, just stopped straighting and dying my hair. Graduated in 2012, just as most of us emo/scenes were turning into candy ravers.
I swear I remember what is now referred to as "Midwest emo" was just "emo" in 1997. The heavier screamo shit was called emocore.
But I was into skate punk back then, so I dunno.
That matches my memory
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA OK it's not just me then. I was like, that's a couple decades and a lot of partying ago so I could be way off. Also being from the Midwest, we were traditionally a bit behind the pop culture curve before the whole advent-of-the-internet thing.
Loved the kid's myspace shout-out.
Im 48 and I gotta say, myspace was the shit!
Okay but Justin Moore played at my county fair (small ass town in MO) and I was in 8th grade and almost caught his JD bottle he threw into the crowd.
I was having an identity crisis the entirety of middle school. 🤦🏻♀️
That was Modern Baseball 😂
35 year old dude and I have always loved early Mayday Parade.
I remember saying or believing stupid, naive, sometimes whiny things as a teenager. Luckily social media was not really a thing in the late 90s and so unlike these kids, I did not preserve my cringiness for posterity.
Lol I love those deep cut YT country videos.
I'm 28 & I love the rise of emo again but it is odd af to see young teens aim for something that happened 15 yrs ago. 🤣❤❤🔥
Great video! An interesting video idea would be heavy metal & mixed martial arts. There are a lot of artists who have found a home with martial arts as well as Every time I Die getting involved in pro wrestling.
What's funny about these people who think they are bringing scene back is how they don't realize that scene was a continuation of the goth/industrial fashion of the 90s, via Marilyn Manson and Hot Topic. Manson came along, kids were dressing a certain way, and then Hot Topic became the hip place to shop (i remember when they were mail order in theback of Rolling Stone magazines), and thus scene fashion was born out of that. Tripp pants bridged the gap.
Some of us from the goth scene in the early 90s haven't ever really stopped having certain fashion elements, for me, if I take my hair out of my ponytail, it is long in the front and the back, all around, and shaved underneath. I have had hair like that, with the exception of my first marriage when that evil human decided she didn't want me to have long hair, since the early 90s. There have been corporate goths for decades, fitting in at work. There are many types of goths, dressing in many ways. Right down to the chick on CSI. So I'm not surprised that there are scene kids who are in their 20s and still living it and that is actually oddly comforting. The clothes are still black and the hair is as weird as you can have it and still be employed, the sleeves are long to cover the tattoos and other markings (we Gen-Xers had those markings too and so do the younger kids, wear your scars proudly). But underneath and inside is the same human, who was never in a phase. Fuck you, mom.
So, nothing is new. Everything old is brought back. The only things that are "new" are just bastardizations of things that already existed, like that fucking horrible misogynistic country-rap bullshit with the rebel flags. I haven't heard music that I would consider "new" since the 90s, really, when Primus and Tool were breaking new territory. Everything else is derivative of something else. And that's not a bad thing. All forms of art are derivative of something else in one way or another.
I feel weird reminiscing on scene stuff from when I was a teenager already. It makes me feel like my mom, who still fawns over her 80s hair bands lol. I also remember having like loudness wars with my friends about whose MP3 player or headphones was the loudest. I did have one time where a kid sitting in the seat in front of me did ask what I was listening to because it sounded cool. I’m pretty sure it was Black Label by Lamb of God iirc lol.
my heart died a little when he said that Modern Baseball was American Football
I love spreadsheets. In 2009 and now in 2021. My previous bands tours were set up on those haha
The whole scene kid scene definitely had a Peter Pan vibe to it like yeah we’re never gonna get older. I’d like to think I’m 17 still.
Dude no matter how hard i try on Tictok, the irony is too deep to penetrate.🤣
Monster for me is an alt thing but that’s because it started getting big in the UK around 2008 and that was around the same time emo exploded at my school and me and all my friends discovered skateboarding
Mate, same here 😆 despite the subtlety of this comment I somehow still got a serious nostalgia blast 😅
My home town didn’t have a skate park back then so we spent our days skating in an Asda car park and because we were 14 we couldn’t buy alcohol so we got our buzz on with monster then one day monster ripper appeared on the shelves and it was a game changer
@@aOx666 hahaha 🤣 fucking hell that's literally what it was like, my home town did have a skate park but we never went becuase it was just full of crustys and chavs and we just couldn't be asked to deal with it 😅
When you referred to Modern Baseball as American Football I lost it. lol
Same difference tbh
5:16 there were so many kids like this at my high school (early to mid 2010s) and we all just called them emos lol. never thought of them as “alt” but i guess they totally were
Br000! Scene chicks were crawling around the parkway plaza mall in san diego in 2009, they were EVERYWHERE
They were common af even in my lame ass city in Kansas(not the KC part of Kansas). They were a very common thing all thriugh the 2000s oddly enough.
The very fact that you can't tell these things about people on TikTok is simply why I can't fucking stand trolls. Yet people like Finn love it. At least there are still some people in this world who are genuine without this whole bullshit.
my dude called modern baseball american football
I think Monster Energy has been associated with the “Alt” way back when they were in Warped Tour.
The guitar culture thing is actually a joke. My buddy and I have been doing for over 10 years. It started with people calling a guitar ‘sexy’ and avalanches from that.
hey finn, you ever listen to celldweller? Own little world is a great song
What is this 9 to 5 luxury you speak of, I'd love that. Here in Brazil a regular job is from 8am to 6pm.
I met someone who likes mayday parade once in my life. It was at warped tour and a kid thought I was the guitarist because we has similar hair, so I autographed his cd lmao.
One of the girls in that 'scene girl' compilation is an ex of mine, I can confirm that it wasn't just an odd day or a one-off, it was an every day thing. I can also say that they are pretty embarrassed by it these days but can have a good laugh about it.
I cried when I saw Mayday Parade in concert lmao
I like Mayday Parade. Not as much as before during ALIR era but I check them out still from time to time.
I always hear the scene kids today talk about 2008-2009 but I remember scene not being as popular then at least at my school the peak was 04-06ish
me, literally today: damn, there's all these artists like jxdn and lilhuddy coming from tiktok yet I know nothing about the tiktok scene, wonder what it even looks like
finn: I gotchu
5:13 should of gone to Stoke, UK circa 2008. It wasn't so unusual to see someone dressed like that.
Stan a bald king who keeps the content FLOWING.