How the Media Lost the Narrative on Trump | The Mehdi Hasan Show

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024

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  • @shannonbloom4133
    @shannonbloom4133 3 года назад +45

    Mainstream Media equating Fascist Republicans with law driven Democrats is getting really tiresome.

    • @tinadmytryshyn3676
      @tinadmytryshyn3676 3 года назад +10

      What would you call what happened last week? It was a President inciting a mob to destroy the American government. That is fascism. Trump didn't care if his own government members were killed in the riot, in fact the mob was calling for his Vice President to be lynched.

  • @LMNevada
    @LMNevada 3 года назад +61

    And we are still giving him a pass. Why isn’t he under arrest?

    • @if131
      @if131 3 года назад +1

      He still holds power for 9 days. Cant prosecute the president under normal laws. Lets hope it happens jan 20.

    • @mmb628jr2
      @mmb628jr2 3 года назад +4

      There’s no Lock Him Up chants going around across the country. After he’s out- The American PPL should all support a Lock Him Up Movement. Even though we probably shouldn’t stoop down to his level- but that’s the only way it could happen.

    • @elliemccarthy3487
      @elliemccarthy3487 3 года назад +3

      Exactly I’m so shocked it’s virtually a week & he is in Texas saying he didn’t do anything wrong ... no wonder he dose this no one stops him ... impeach him !!!

    • @patriciax3677
      @patriciax3677 3 года назад

      @Mo Elm Look WHO IN THE SENATE does this !!!
      Hint: It sure as hell ain't the Dems

  • @shannonbloom4133
    @shannonbloom4133 3 года назад +21

    95 years ago 25,000 hooded and robed KKK members proudly and openly marched in a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue past the Whitehouse and Capitol. How soon we forget.

    • @along9971
      @along9971 3 года назад +1

      Trump's grandfather was arrested after that march, Rachel Maddow did a show called long division, showing the arrest report

    • @tinadmytryshyn3676
      @tinadmytryshyn3676 3 года назад +2

      @@along9971 His grandfather also ran a brothel, what a great guy, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.

    • @Kick_Rocks
      @Kick_Rocks 3 года назад

      Those people were called DEMOCRATS.

  • @lanceb7556
    @lanceb7556 3 года назад +18

    Left media has been calling him out for five years, but the mainstream media kept calling them alarmists.

    • @cynthiapickett7403
      @cynthiapickett7403 3 года назад +1

      Exactly!

    • @ajmeyers5661
      @ajmeyers5661 3 года назад

      @Lance B - I disagree. _Some_ left media saw him for what he was and acted responsibly. But many in the progressive press saw Trump and Trumpism as an opportunity. They thought the outrages of Trump would be "good for _their_ brand", as it would drive more people to their point of view. I won't call any individual progressive journalists out by name (tbf it's probably easy to guess the ones I mean), but they've been engaged in this ridiculous "3D chess" against Democrats so long that they lost perspective. If it was more in their interest to attack Pelosi than Trump, then they would prioritize attacks on Pelosi over attacks on Trump.
      That kinda of politicking by journalists had its costs.

    • @lanceb7556
      @lanceb7556 3 года назад +1

      @@ajmeyers5661 No. That's what the mainstream media has been doing. Most of the progressive left media have been responsibly calling them all out for doing just that.

    • @ajmeyers5661
      @ajmeyers5661 3 года назад

      @@lanceb7556 - Please provide an instance of the "mainstream media" prioritizing attacks on Pelosi over attacks on Trump. I consume quite a lot of media, both progressive and "mainstrean" and I've only ever seen this from the former. Reporting on Trump in the progressive press will almost always take a backseat to any attack that can be cobbled together against any Democrat, irrespective of the comparative scope of their offenses.
      To prevent straw manning my position, let me be clear that I think politicians should be called out in accordance to what they've done, and I don't think there should be any fear or favor in reporting. But the sad fact is progressive media (despite a handful of conscientious and thorough progressives who are the exception) will focus on perceived slights from Democrats, while glossing over existential threats from the right. When in doubt attack a liberal who "isn't progressive enough".
      But most espcially attack Pelosi. Pretty sure that woman is the only person in America who'd be hanged by either leftists or rightists with equal glee.

    • @50jakecs
      @50jakecs 3 года назад +2

      The mainstream media are the ones that filmed Trump's EMPTY podium when he was campaigning, instead of covering, umm news.

  • @kathleenm3443
    @kathleenm3443 3 года назад +7

    I’m a 70 year old white Jew. I’ve come to realize in the past 5 years that mainly Black Politicians are among the only Politicians that reflect back to me my values of freedom and hope. The Black American experience has insisted that America live up to its’ ideals. We all need to support the view of most African-American politicians, intellectuals and journalists. They can guide America into a formation of beautiful Country... one that full fills the ideals it was founded upon. In contrast, many White Americans oppose those ideals as we have seen over the past 5 years under Trump. That cancer that infects our Nation has been here for hundreds of years, and will not be rooted out and defeated. Not without a lot of work and a lot of help from White Americans. We need to stand tall and strong.... support Black lives and improve the life of our Country as a consequence. We truly are all connected.

  • @odonata9838
    @odonata9838 3 года назад +10

    Thank you very much, Medhi! This is a clear and concrete analysis of our media.

  • @ajmeyers5661
    @ajmeyers5661 3 года назад +20

    Let's hope we can hear a little less "both sidesism" from the media and a little more factual analysis. Tapper's rightly famous for his 'both sides' bs at every conceivable moment, warranted or not...though he does have his good days.
    I have to say I've been digging almost everything Mehdi has been doing since he came to MSNBC. I hope the quality work continues.

  • @parrotletsrunearth1173
    @parrotletsrunearth1173 3 года назад +14

    The MSM literally got him elected in 2016.

    • @kenbrownfield6584
      @kenbrownfield6584 3 года назад +3

      Yes it did

    • @Account.for.Comment
      @Account.for.Comment 3 года назад +1

      Blame the msm is bs, considering 70 millions + think that they are all liars. They only cover him because he is a threat to humanity and made $$$ in the process. Fox News is not news but its audience trust in them.

    • @parrotletsrunearth1173
      @parrotletsrunearth1173 3 года назад +1

      @@Account.for.Comment Fox is part of the MSM. CNN and MSNBC did plenty for him in 2016 to get him elected as well. The ENTIRE MSM wanted him to be POTUS.

    • @50jakecs
      @50jakecs 3 года назад

      @@parrotletsrunearth1173 I don't know if the pundits at CNN or MSNBC wanted Trump to be president but they like that his campaign increased their ratings and their ad revenue.

    • @colinbaker3916
      @colinbaker3916 3 года назад

      @@parrotletsrunearth1173 Agreed. Joe Scarborough’s filibustered indignation punctuated by Mika Brzezinski’s sighs of frustration ignore how they ingratiated Trump earlier.

  • @LeslieLarsen
    @LeslieLarsen 3 года назад +3

    Frankly police beating and murdering has been just as terrifying as the insurrection at Capitol. And courts not holding accountable has been twice as terrifying. Without accountability at every level the whole thing fails

  • @earthangels4977
    @earthangels4977 3 года назад +9

    Well said and good perspective

  • @phosawelonewolf5686
    @phosawelonewolf5686 3 года назад +4

    Should have called him a LIER when he did. I couldn’t understand why, because that’s what he was doing. We tell our children to stop lying why not call it what it is.

    • @patriciax3677
      @patriciax3677 3 года назад +1

      Donald's been and is the Liar In Chief

  • @Daniel-kk6zd
    @Daniel-kk6zd 3 года назад +4

    Most fatal mistakes are ignored till it’s too late.

    • @patriciax3677
      @patriciax3677 3 года назад +1

      with ignorant and/or nieve citizens, that's true

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch 3 года назад +2

    Snowden, Manning, Assange and others, they also are persecuted and not many outlets talk about them. So journalism must also talk about these cases as well as so many other injustices world wide. Thanks for the show!

  • @elikalman9066
    @elikalman9066 3 года назад +3

    Excellent points, thank you!

  • @MichelleIbarraMHAEdD
    @MichelleIbarraMHAEdD 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for admitting culpability, sad as it is to admit, it's so true. And he loved it. I'm glad things are changing. We all need to call these people out and shine the light on them.

  • @amug.7279
    @amug.7279 3 года назад +3

    I called him a fascist and my Google account was cancelled. I called his supporters fascists as well.

    • @MichelleIbarraMHAEdD
      @MichelleIbarraMHAEdD 3 года назад +1

      Are you kidding me? Wow, that's ridiculous. I'm waiting for youtube to cancel me for my remarks on these idiots. But, I will keep liking and commenting about this bigotry and the double standard attitudes bc we need to bring awareness and educate Americans who have become complacent.

    • @Kick_Rocks
      @Kick_Rocks 3 года назад

      I'm a black woman that voted for Trump twice but I'm a Fascist? Yeah right... 😂😂😂. Y'all are brainwashed.

    • @amug.7279
      @amug.7279 3 года назад

      @@Kick_Rocks birtherism is racism. Lying about elections is was fascists do. Gerrymandering and voter suppression is what fascists do. Lying and denying facts is what fascists do.

    • @Kick_Rocks
      @Kick_Rocks 3 года назад

      @@amug.7279 It's too late for folks like you. Trump is a populist not a Fascist.

    • @Hargeysa
      @Hargeysa 3 года назад

      @@Kick_Rocks any relations with Clayton Bigsby?

  • @PeacockPoverty
    @PeacockPoverty 3 года назад +3

    From the moment he descended the elevator. We all knew.

  • @jmp01a24
    @jmp01a24 3 года назад +2

    Truer words are rarely spoken in media or among the people on the left.

  • @michaellynn7745
    @michaellynn7745 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for your courageous voices. I am a new viewer to your channel.

  • @octopusfly
    @octopusfly 3 года назад +2

    She's amazing.
    ...and so right about the situation.

  • @kevoutjones5739
    @kevoutjones5739 3 года назад +4

    So true Mehdi I really like your program cool k

  • @LuisRamos-yz7qr
    @LuisRamos-yz7qr 3 года назад

    God bless you Karen Attiah! Your passion and clarity of the threat of White supremacy and the media's complicity with it is a breath of fresh air. Continue to add your truth to power.

  • @davidskeffington1269
    @davidskeffington1269 3 года назад

    Finally someone in media used the expression 'Fourth Estate'. I have been, in comment sections, asking for some time of main stream media what ever happened to the Fourth Estate?

  • @leealexander3507
    @leealexander3507 3 года назад +1

    I've been calling Trump a fascist and white supremacist since he early in his 2016 campaign and getting a lot of pushback from friends and family who thought my words were too strong but some of them are finally coming along.

  • @elliemccarthy3487
    @elliemccarthy3487 3 года назад

    Iv watched USA news this week & the back peddling is so shocking; only few tv outlets have made a stand ... this can not be tolerated...

  • @jamessears1000
    @jamessears1000 3 года назад

    “a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter” said Thomas Jefferson, Founding Father.

  • @fromsurrey9538
    @fromsurrey9538 3 года назад

    Peacock is the real deal.

  • @galej3966
    @galej3966 3 года назад

    That's why I love Lester on NBC, he'll expose things so cool! I love you Mehdi for being truthful everyday & up front about matters! I love Joy for truth & escalation of wrongs, plus she's smart! Love Zerlina for just being herself! Thanks for sharing, bless you!

    • @Kick_Rocks
      @Kick_Rocks 3 года назад

      They are lying to you.

  • @shamspuri2493
    @shamspuri2493 3 года назад +1

    This is also starkly truer and more visible in the UK among white indigenous Britons, Brexiteers or not.

    • @shamspuri2493
      @shamspuri2493 3 года назад

      I will also add that there is a greater probability that liberal America(which is most of it) will survive and be a fairer society of the future, having experienced EVILl, up close and so personal

  • @gbail9566
    @gbail9566 3 года назад +1

    How about reporters in the White House Briefing Room standing up for themselves when POTUS calls them fake news or worse. To wit, "How dare you?'

  • @waynenorris5711
    @waynenorris5711 3 года назад

    If we all knew the difference between strength and power and not crossing the line, we would be serving ourselves and the whole to a greater advantage.

  • @roboldx9171
    @roboldx9171 3 года назад

    Thank you Mehdi. I've been living in disgust inside the world of white supremacy ever since I say it for what it was. Ever since I saw the media reaction to Charlottesville. They were shocked about something I have taken for granted for most of my life. The power of white supremacy running the most important institutions in our society.

  • @nathaliedufour3891
    @nathaliedufour3891 3 года назад

    It takes a village. Everybody participates. This has been outrageous, frustrating, and shocking. Children were separated from their parents and locked in cages. It takes a village.

  • @kingpx
    @kingpx 3 года назад

    It happened because they were making advertising $$$$$ and competing for the highest ratings, for shame

  • @mksandals9572
    @mksandals9572 3 года назад

    What the HELL is wrong with Congress...HE SHOULD BE LOCKED UP!!!

  • @sytoh715
    @sytoh715 3 года назад

    Thank you Mr Mehdi Hasan for the honest truth about the role news media had abdicated and encouraged the rise of fascist / fascism, and for introspection on the role to report truth.

  • @riazmkhan
    @riazmkhan 3 года назад +1

    News and opinion programming is wrong. Difficult journalistic inquiry has given way to lazy programming where either side is simply handed the microphone and camera to spew talking points, misrepresentations and outright lies without challenge. The former needs bright, inquiring, critical, and honest journalists. A much more difficult ask. The latter simply needs attractive photogenic presenters who simply watch the rhetoric ping between the guests on their shows like a 70s game of Pong.

  • @opalhall1834
    @opalhall1834 3 года назад

    You could not have said it any better

  • @emmanuelrobert208
    @emmanuelrobert208 3 года назад

    Michelle Woolf summed up the media's relationship with Trump brilliantly at the correspondence dinner.

  • @peterneyndorff9452
    @peterneyndorff9452 3 года назад

    WELL SAID 👍👍🏆

  • @anthrogurl4484
    @anthrogurl4484 3 года назад

    Research shows that diversity in a profession or learning environment promotes better solutions to problems with more creativity & better problem solving. Additionally, it usually takes at least 3 people of a particular minority for that impact to be felt. Just having one person representing an entire group doesn’t cut it.

  • @BN-hy1nd
    @BN-hy1nd 3 года назад

    Touché

  • @robertjohnston8876
    @robertjohnston8876 3 года назад

    As a Canadian I am astounded at the level of reverence the country has for the office of the President
    Any criticism is so reserved and polite. Many people hold the occupant as a Jesus like figure.
    Eg. Trump recommends chlorox be taken, and thousands of people take it as fact.
    Amazing.

  • @etmoiaussi439
    @etmoiaussi439 3 года назад

    It seems all America does is talk. No one is prepared to say exactly what is what. As if all journalists are censored.

  • @gillesmeura3416
    @gillesmeura3416 3 года назад

    Good points. I think you can add many LGBT journalists to the list of those who saw immediately who / what Trump was.
    Another point: we should remember that Trump's fascist tendency, and his racism, were considerably boosted by Steve Bannon (using the leverage and previoud polling tests from Cambridge Analytica). And therefore we cannot ignore the role played by Robert Mercer in mid-2016, when he dropped Ted Cruz and invited Trump to use his bandwagon.

  • @lunarsma8446
    @lunarsma8446 3 года назад

    My experience, what I heard from many, is even with basic understanding (without the frilly dramatics),the donald brought deep concern. Those who would vote for him- I still can't get over those numbers. But reporting was willfully inept in it's coverage of what the long game of his leadership had the capacity to do to the US and globe. It was awful and chilling in 2016( and before with some historical context), to see what's occurred in the last 4 years is devastating.
    The donald walked the spotlight that shined for him, instead of the public good.

  • @kesart8378
    @kesart8378 3 года назад

    Justifiably passionate, dead brilliant, and spot-on.
    Part of the fault, too, lies in the fact that many of America's networks have placed their news divisions under the bailiwick of the Director of Sports or Entertainment (a trifling difference). To such people news must, of a necessity, display characteristics of entertainment: snappy graphics, stirring theme music and colorful interviewees who will provide space for conflict, as in the two-opposing-partisan-talking- heads screaming at each other. (Too often the case on CNN.)
    So, yes, indeed, as Les Moonves, former Chief Executive at CBS--and alleged sexual abuser-- was quoted as observing, "Trump is bad for America, but good for us [networks]."
    The network heads loved Trump for he rarely failed to put on a transfixing--through the monster revealed--show. So networks gave near his every hiccough airtime, for the show must go on, and in a twenty-four hour news cycle--where shows and their presenters live or die by their ratings--programs damn well better grab the viewer straight off before said typical viewer, possessed of a minuscule attention span, changes stations.
    The late Neil Postman wrote so eloquently and movingly of how America, and so much of the rest of a world busy chasing America's lead, has shaped its news coverage to a post-textual, post-literate, attention-deficient audience in his book, Amusing Ourselves to Death. His thesis has proved all too true, particularly in an age of near limitless venues for entertainment, dwindling cultural literacy and the doctrine of "grabbing eyeballs" at the outset, then holding them through teasers, sensationalism, manufactured controversy, "clickbait", etc.
    Now with the seeming end of the reign of Mad King Donald, the media must reflect upon it's part in elevating Trump to the prominence he enjoyed from so much air time and ink. Again he almost always put on a good show, one that while having the feel of watching, riveted, as an inevitable accident unfolds, lent him a gravitas that he would never have acquired had he not been allowed to suck up all the oxygen in the newsroom, and to grab so many headlines, whether on tabloids or broadsheets.
    It remains to be seen whether today's lessons resonate for longer than the immediate moment. If they do not, then the media may once again elevate a demagogue--and the next proto-fascist may prove far more competent and clever than Trump did.

  • @fauziachoudhry5312
    @fauziachoudhry5312 3 года назад

    Mehdi should bring in chris hedges. He has been talking about america heading towards fascism and white supremacy for years now

  • @robbyeapperson6240
    @robbyeapperson6240 3 года назад

    Yes you are right that we all will pay the price for the failure if narrative; and you are right that the issues are difficult for journalists to grapple with, so we might start by letting them off the hook. Let's acknowledge that language gets stuck in semantics. Let's accept that broadcast journalism could be more than the producers' rush to glamourize the faces of (female) news readers. Maybe we could all practice being smarter about the painful truth if our world; and our fatigue with it all.

  • @SlimKeith11
    @SlimKeith11 3 года назад

    VERY exciting to finally see more diverse faces on the news!! It's unfortunate it took the murder of black people to get so many intelligent, articulate, well informed (and often gorgeous people) on air

  • @waynenorris5711
    @waynenorris5711 3 года назад

    I think it would have been so different without Mitch the obstructionist. To much bully power there.

  • @ninanano
    @ninanano 3 года назад

    i like that mehdi also admits blame

  • @clarkpalace
    @clarkpalace 3 года назад

    It doesnt take skin color to b a journalist. It takes guts. White Canadian here

  • @HealthCoach-TaiChiGung
    @HealthCoach-TaiChiGung 3 года назад

    No kidding!

  • @qoqopepper
    @qoqopepper 3 года назад

    But you got Great ratings, right 🤔? Money is always the determining factor 🤯

  • @albertchehade9916
    @albertchehade9916 3 года назад +1

    This is a Hollywood movie in the making.......2024 will be the title
    Who will play trump?
    Perhaps Alf.......the sitcom from the 80's......
    Who will play gulianus?
    Marty Feldman.......(if he was still alive)
    Tom Cruise can play DJT jnr

  • @ericramsteijn8959
    @ericramsteijn8959 3 года назад

    Thank you. Now, is this all just talk or will you, the media, learn and change so you won't make the same mistakes again? Accurate news reporting or sound bites modelled to build profit margins? Facts or reality tv? What direction will you take?

  • @kingpest13
    @kingpest13 3 года назад

    Check out Marlon crafts "gang". Interesting take and excellent video

  • @tigersforever4577
    @tigersforever4577 3 года назад

    Why not invite Briahna Joy Gray who combines passion with analysis?

  • @raeleefelsman6969
    @raeleefelsman6969 3 года назад

    BLM........Worldwide.........God Bless. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🇦🇺♥️🇦🇺

  • @arkadybelsky4256
    @arkadybelsky4256 3 года назад

    What are you going to do with 74 million fascists?

  • @tigersforever4577
    @tigersforever4577 3 года назад

    Sorry, Mr. Hasan, this is just not terribly coherent.

  • @antskilu1354
    @antskilu1354 3 года назад

    journalists? mabe u first get yr own media? NY times owned by mexican carlos slim and slim fortune is chinese investors lol

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    @raphaeldouglas8802 3 года назад +1

    I'm Single 😍😥

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    @alizeerraroa627 3 года назад +1

    Oh yeah. Do you love me? 😍💋 💝💖❤️

  • @anthrogurl4484
    @anthrogurl4484 3 года назад

    Research shows that diversity in a profession or learning environment promotes better solutions to problems with more creativity & better problem solving. Additionally, it usually takes at least 3 people of a particular minority for that impact to be felt. Just having one person representing an entire group doesn’t cut it.