I often go to Manticore bush. He was there from the beginning of the fight. When AMX went down, there are 2 rows of bushes, so they didn't spot each other.
Any time some one comments on how my Wn8 is 'lower', I tell them to learn what actually determines a good player, some one who tries to do their best for the team and team make up, or some one who sits as just stat pads. Personally I hate losing a battle, but, you can't always win, when I get a team that does everything they can TO lose, I get really annoyed. Most of those teams are players just sitting around trying to stat pad and stupid snipe.
WOT hates anything that doesn't require spamming large amounts of gold ammo. So simply getting huge amounts of spotting damage, WG is going to put you in the shitter category.
LOL funny. But... WN8 is not made by War Gaming. It is a 3rd party programmer, who according to some posts, is one of the smartest people in the world. Math genius...if you will. If that is the case, then we are in trouble.
there are 2 aspects to spotting?: a) be in the right place to see the enemy and, more importantly, be in the right place that your side can hit what you spot. See so much suicide scouting done to get their medal but not actually help their team
Claus, I know that this is a late post and might not be seen. Anyway, I fully agree with the WIN8 problem. It doesn't properly rate pub match play. As I recall WIN 6 thru 8 were primarily designed as recruit rating tools for Clans. They are intended to give the recruiter a gauge for what to expect from a potential recruit in Clan Wars, not pub matches. For Clan Wars WIN8 tells them what they need to know - does this payer pump out damage and finish what they start with a kill shot? They aren't too concerned during recruitment with spotting as a statistic because the new recruit isn't likely to instantly be given the recon role. That spot is earned. Clans fully appreciate what a good to excellent light driver can do for the team in Clan Wars - but that's not recruiting.
When I used to play this game, (and I stopped after 3 years) I had my worst losing streak of 23 games but my average damage across those games was over 3K, my win rate in my last year was 38% does that make me a crap player?….it’s all meaningless bullshit stats that sad depressed players without a life chase to feel better about themselves.
An obvious bias, this WN*. Forcing the spending of credits on shells in the chase of a higher WN* rating is the War Gaming priority. It preys on the OCD in all of us, the gambling and winning bug, so to speak. Team play, such as spotting, is not rewarded, rendering the game more one dimensional and less strategic. GG's.
Yep, you have to make sure that some team mates get in position & fire at the targets you light. Too often they don't. It's like playing party & nobody shoots the tanks that you stun. Then it's your fault when your team loses the battle
"...Letting the tanks go by, merely sitting in my bush. Letting the tanks go by, spotting nicely in my bush. In the open, once the spotting is gone. Once in a lifetime, spotting nicely in my bush..."
Thanks for the 2 great LT games. Enjoyed them both. Highway is a great LT map for me. I usually go to the same area of bushes from the OTHER spawn. You can’t let an enemy LT get in there early. Thanks again Claus
I don't care about win8 but I wish the game rewarded a tank for playing its role well in xp received. A light tank should get more xp for 2000 spotting damage than for 2000 damage.
Stats are useless anyway, completly idiotic that people only play for stats and screen shots, which is what 90% of the player base does instead of trying to win
That's why after 10 years I no longer play no one wants to win anymore everything is about trying to get marks and taking as few risks as possible myself I have always been willing to sacrifice my tank for that crucial spot on a light tank or stopping a flag cap exctera I also would actively try to defend team mates at great risk to myself but they won't do the same for me and then you have the stat whores who try and act like they are better than everyone else when they let multiple team mates die so they wouldn't get spotted and could run away to keep trying to get dmg for a mark
In fairness, most players try to win, but dirty little stapadders are in it for themselves and are not team players. When I played the game I did just that, play the game, not the stats.
This was the best comment: You do not need to look for WN8 or any stats, just play and have fun. And this is actually a very important thing to remember. This game like other PC games are just for fun.
It just goes to show that shitty players compare WN8 because they are clueless of how it works. Another group of clowns are those who compare win rates, too many times I have been stuck on teams where at least half the team is useless, causing a loss. I have always ignored WN8 and win rate, because they don't accurately take into account all of a players contributions, and I have seen games where an AFK player got more experience and WN8 than players actively trying to win the game. Comparing these stats to belittle other player just proves how shitty of a player you are!
Theres a huge difference between console / pc play, you wouldnt hold that spotting position for longer than 5 seconds on console, most games are 5-6 minutes on a good day, most are 4 munutes, and 3 minute battles show up sometimes, definitely not the same game
WN8 is trash, and doesn't count spotting... and it only counts the highest score between spotting and assist. not both. Those who use Wn8 as a scale for good players, are almost as clueless as some of the muppets we see in this game. Best way to see if a player is any good, is to look at their average exp per battle. That will tell you a lot about how they play. No matter what they do, or what tank they play most. An average player like me would have somewhere between 600-800 average exp per battle. If a player had over 1k exp per battle...well that's pretty good.
I spent 4 days playing light tanks - which I HATE - trying to get 2k spotting for a mission. Never achieved more than 1500. Now this dude runs out and posts 15k ... this is when I hate replays.
Claus, it is a game, to tell people they should not be playing this game is stupid, so not everyone plays perfect every time or even half the time so what? if you are on the field and you want someone to do an action just tell them
The AMX 13 105 should've never been added to the game. AMX 30 has better sustained fire, and both the B-C 25 t ap and 25 t have better firepower. Oh, and both can spot and have about the same mobility.
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Light tank spotting, not shooting, is spending no $$ on expensive ammo. Therefore, he sucks. Good one Claus. Tanks a lot.
Hense the Low Rank on WN8 ... WOT says You Spend No $$, therefor You SUCK
I often go to Manticore bush. He was there from the beginning of the fight. When AMX went down, there are 2 rows of bushes, so they didn't spot each other.
Good video and great comparison on the WN8, CK.
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Any time some one comments on how my Wn8 is 'lower', I tell them to learn what actually determines a good player, some one who tries to do their best for the team and team make up, or some one who sits as just stat pads. Personally I hate losing a battle, but, you can't always win, when I get a team that does everything they can TO lose, I get really annoyed. Most of those teams are players just sitting around trying to stat pad and stupid snipe.
When @Claus Kellerman invokes Talking Heads it is pure poetry.
I remember you grinding the manticore on twitch 2-3 years ago. Happy days. Happy Dec 26 Claus.
WOT hates anything that doesn't require spamming large amounts of gold ammo. So simply getting huge amounts of spotting damage, WG is going to put you in the shitter category.
LOL funny. But... WN8 is not made by War Gaming. It is a 3rd party programmer, who according to some posts, is one of the smartest people in the world. Math genius...if you will. If that is the case, then we are in trouble.
there are 2 aspects to spotting?: a) be in the right place to see the enemy and, more importantly, be in the right place that your side can hit what you spot.
See so much suicide scouting done to get their medal but not actually help their team
Happy Holidays Claus, greetings from Banja Luka.
Claus its well known that WN8 doesn't calculate correctly for spotting damage, somehow limited by what can be accessed
"doesnt calculate correctly" :D man, its way worse than that, it completely ignores any assist damage you do!
That second match looked like he was going for "the art of the tease"
Wish you Happy Holidays
you too
Claus, I know that this is a late post and might not be seen. Anyway, I fully agree with the WIN8 problem. It doesn't properly rate pub match play. As I recall WIN 6 thru 8 were primarily designed as recruit rating tools for Clans. They are intended to give the recruiter a gauge for what to expect from a potential recruit in Clan Wars, not pub matches. For Clan Wars WIN8 tells them what they need to know - does this payer pump out damage and finish what they start with a kill shot? They aren't too concerned during recruitment with spotting as a statistic because the new recruit isn't likely to instantly be given the recon role. That spot is earned. Clans fully appreciate what a good to excellent light driver can do for the team in Clan Wars - but that's not recruiting.
When I used to play this game, (and I stopped after 3 years) I had my worst losing streak of 23 games but my average damage across those games was over 3K, my win rate in my last year was 38% does that make me a crap player?….it’s all meaningless bullshit stats that sad depressed players without a life chase to feel better about themselves.
An obvious bias, this WN*. Forcing the spending of credits on shells in the chase of a higher WN* rating is the War Gaming priority. It preys on the OCD in all of us, the gambling and winning bug, so to speak. Team play, such as spotting, is not rewarded, rendering the game more one dimensional and less strategic.
GG's.
Yep, you have to make sure that some team mates get in position & fire at the targets you light. Too often they don't. It's like playing party & nobody shoots the tanks that you stun. Then it's your fault when your team loses the battle
"...Letting the tanks go by, merely sitting in my bush. Letting the tanks go by, spotting nicely in my bush. In the open, once the spotting is gone. Once in a lifetime, spotting nicely in my bush..."
Well done, and Merry Christmas.
Thanks for the 2 great LT games. Enjoyed them both. Highway is a great LT map for me. I usually go to the same area of bushes from the OTHER spawn. You can’t let an enemy LT get in there early. Thanks again Claus
Both our heroes initially went counter clockwise…
19:17 ... I've never noticed the WN8 on my post game stats. Is it a mod or am I just not looking close enough on the first tab of the stats?
I don't care about win8 but I wish the game rewarded a tank for playing its role well in xp received. A light tank should get more xp for 2000 spotting damage than for 2000 damage.
A good spooter made a good game on that first one. The second game was a right stomping thanks to their spooter shooter.
What's going on here? Focusing on gameplay and not going off the rails. Are you ok Claus?
😆
It actually was a rant, but a rant about how dumb WN8 is, so it lined up with the gameplay
That's my point though. It's suspiciously on topic,no shenanigans at all. I'm concerned that there might be a WG related hostage situation 😂😂
Perfect illustration of why WIN8 as a sole is meaningless.
AY UP CLAUS
GG, proper light play, used their brains and won.
Ze spooting mechanics now works as intended! Forget what you know about lt spooting and go to ze training room! Your mind will be blown away!
Nice games Claus !!
Yes! Too a select few I am their scout.
☕👍
I may one day get a scout at upper tier
Claus, if
I grind up to a manticore, I will play it
Happy Boxing day! Two well played LT games!😊
Claus, sorry for not subscribing and joining sooner. I thought I had done this long ago!
Maybe the Manticore's commander was outside the tank tanking a piss? 🤷
Stats are useless anyway, completly idiotic that people only play for stats and screen shots, which is what 90% of the player base does instead of trying to win
That's why after 10 years I no longer play no one wants to win anymore everything is about trying to get marks and taking as few risks as possible myself I have always been willing to sacrifice my tank for that crucial spot on a light tank or stopping a flag cap exctera I also would actively try to defend team mates at great risk to myself but they won't do the same for me and then you have the stat whores who try and act like they are better than everyone else when they let multiple team mates die so they wouldn't get spotted and could run away to keep trying to get dmg for a mark
In fairness, most players try to win, but dirty little stapadders are in it for themselves and are not team players. When I played the game I did just that, play the game, not the stats.
15:41 somebody bring the man some water, his mouth is dry as f!
Hope you're having a fantastic day
How do you get WN8 to show up on your post game stats ?
wot-record site
This was the best comment: You do not need to look for WN8 or any stats, just play and have fun. And this is actually a very important thing to remember. This game like other PC games are just for fun.
Most players take this game too seriously, and lately feels more like a second job over a game to relax to.
Only did 6k spotting damage! I dream of 5000 .
It just goes to show that shitty players compare WN8 because they are clueless of how it works. Another group of clowns are those who compare win rates, too many times I have been stuck on teams where at least half the team is useless, causing a loss. I have always ignored WN8 and win rate, because they don't accurately take into account all of a players contributions, and I have seen games where an AFK player got more experience and WN8 than players actively trying to win the game. Comparing these stats to belittle other player just proves how shitty of a player you are!
GM Claus!
@19:59
"SOME COMMENTS"
manticore was in a paralell-dimension....?
Theres a huge difference between console / pc play, you wouldnt hold that spotting position for longer than 5 seconds on console, most games are 5-6 minutes on a good day, most are 4 munutes, and 3 minute battles show up sometimes, definitely not the same game
Happy algorithm comment have a good day
lol the commentary 🤣🤣
E50 had 530 HP, he would not kill him in 1 hit.
both good battle, i don,t look at win8, not sure where to see it 👍
Happy algorithm comment.
Therefore he sucks! Love it!
WN8 is trash, and doesn't count spotting... and it only counts the highest score between spotting and assist. not both. Those who use Wn8 as a scale for good players, are almost as clueless as some of the muppets we see in this game. Best way to see if a player is any good, is to look at their average exp per battle. That will tell you a lot about how they play. No matter what they do, or what tank they play most. An average player like me would have somewhere between 600-800 average exp per battle. If a player had over 1k exp per battle...well that's pretty good.
Stupid muppet army... Sitting on the edge of the map... Why waste time spotting for teams that just want to sit and die?
Comment, Comment, Comment!!!!! 👍
I spent 4 days playing light tanks - which I HATE - trying to get 2k spotting for a mission. Never achieved more than 1500. Now this dude runs out and posts 15k ... this is when I hate replays.
And yes - it sh*tcanned my WN8 for the week.
Lies, Lies & damn statistics!!!!!!!!!!!!
In XVM he's probably borderline tomato, tells you all you need to know about stats monkeys!!!!!
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Claus, it is a game, to tell people they should not be playing this game is stupid, so not everyone plays perfect every time or even half the time so what? if you are on the field and you want someone to do an action just tell them
The AMX 13 105 should've never been added to the game.
AMX 30 has better sustained fire, and both the B-C 25 t ap and 25 t have better firepower.
Oh, and both can spot and have about the same mobility.
:)
WN8 sux because it depends on how much money u spend / waste playing each game! Second game he shoots prem ammo and cost to repair his tank and plays well. WG is a scam!
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everyone calls it win8. not perfect but a better calc than win7. like the game the mods evolve . unlike the game the mods get better
everbody know,.de,. de,. de,. WN8, only count for,.de,. de,. payboys,. it ahh,. say jou pay good .or jou pay ah,. no good,.everbody know zhat! Sacre' bleu!🙄😂