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Pokemon Generation 6 Review (XY, ORAS)
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The lack of a Pokémon Z was what really confined the gen 6 games in this area of mediocrity. Imagine Diamond and Pearl without Platinum, or Ruby and Sapphire without Emerald.
Kalos truly had amazing potential as a region.
Yeah I agree but I never got platinum and DP were still great games. I think the main reason they didn't make a Z was because they knew it wasn't good so why fix it.
We're already two generations after this and I am still sad and upset about that. I wanted this freaking Z and I loved the Kalos region!
Them not making Z was a huge mistake. I agree that Plat and Emerald were much better and refined editions of their gens. But even without them DP and SR were strong enough to stand on their own. XY was not. Even if they couldn't fix everything they could have done more and also made more money. A missed opportunity.
Also going to gen 7 with the ultra games. To me those felt like cash grabs. Not enough new/changed content to justify TWO "definitive" games.
@@MrSupersonic2012 I agree, Z shouldve been made to fix those things that were wrong with XY.
The Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon games were completely misleading. They made it seem like it was going to be like B2W2 in which the entire game would be different. They made two different versions similarly to B2W2 and the legendaries on the cover were fusions exactly like B2W2. Also they haven't made a 3rd version of a Pokemon game in about 10 years making me think that trend died.
Even if we put the misleading thing aside. This definitive set of games felt worse in some ways compared to the original. The story was worse (Lusamine and Nihilego was way more interesting) and they removed the whole looker ultra beast missions. I actually prefer fighting the mysterious necrozma in ten carrot hill than what they did in USUM. Necrozma was overly done with gimmicks it ruined what I liked about it from the first set of games. Also necrozma having a catch rate of a caterpie should never be the case even if you fought it as a boss battle before. Catching the legendary should always be the final battle. That's my opinion anyway.
Facts
I think we can mostly agree on the fact that the Gen 6 anime was one of the best tho..
if not, the best
@smb85 dkc94 like b2 w2
Yeah, both the anime and the manga were better at handling Gen 6 than the games did
Xy and Diamond and Pearl are the best pokemon seasons so far
Miles Sharpe your profile picture is literally Serena
Finding a copy of x or y at best buy was harder than the game themselves
eshop: am I a joke to you?
Amazon for the win
Taking off the plastic wrapping on the game was harder than the game itself.
Have you ever hear of target? Nobody ever buys games when new pokemon games comes out tbh
Sock Team no physical copies
Barber: what do you want?
Lysandre: ever seen a male Pyroar?
Barber: say no more!
I think x and y needed sequels or a pokemon z game kalos is a great region it's a shame we didn't get more of it
I wouldn't say great per say, but I hope it does get improved upon when the remake/sequel gets made
@James TH
Yes, the region looked so beautiful. I definetly want more!
Zygarde was wasted too
James TH honestly though the story is really intriguing and rly underrated
@@jacobmorales2451 yeah it would be great idea the kalos war was actually against galar
What about the fact that we never even got an event for AZ’s Floette? It has a custom model and a signature move!
Pixel Pudding it would've been awesome to get one!
Itll come out with x and y remakes in 2050
It also has different stats
And with gen 8 that floette finally got removed from the game's data
Yo gamefeak, im still waiting for that floette
It hasn't been 3000 years. Or 3000 days since XY's release.
I'm still waiting for that Azure Flute.
GF: she is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE
i have her :p
"On October the 12th 2013 everyone in the world will play it at the same time...
And then the entire game got leaked a week in advanced" 😂😂😂😂😂
Gen 5
- Amazing games terrible anime
Gen 6
- decent games Amazing anime
Problems
- too easy
- 4 boring rivals
- The Gen 5 Sprites where better
- The Team
- Kanto fanservice
- The remakes lack the battle frontier
- lacking postgame
- removed/altered places in the remakes
Good things
- Mega evolution
- The player search System/ Wondertrade
- The introduction of the fairy type
- The Improved rivals in the remakes
- The delta episode
No minigames the supertraining The Pokémonami?
evil team wasn't bad pandering didn't affect it much and how did the 'altering' of locations mess up anything?
Am I the only person that doesn't like Mega Evolutions?
Trigun Vash yes
JJ C
I despise them, they broke the metagame if you ask me
No mention of character customization?
Reverting Tate and Liza back to just Solrock and Lunatone was A CRIME
Practically BEGGING you to use surf
Indeed, they deserved those extra mons from Emerald ;(
Goner Kid THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I DID
Do you mean just the first tate and liza fight
And also removing Manectric from Wattson's team
The fact that Kalos has fewer legendary mons than other regions is a good thing in my opinion
Gen 8 did the same and yeah, that ain't bad at all
@@kwayke9 gen 8 literally has none lmao, it's a joke of a post game
Especially when we consider the next generation
GOSHDARNIT ALOLA
WE GET IT LEGENDARIES EXIST
It would be if it had been traded by quality, but it didn't
@@Xman34washere is it bad that i haven't played Sun and Moon even though i bought the steel case edition for Moon? The game had such backlash that i just can't brave my way through all the hand holdy stuff they throw at you
Unless the game has really good side quests branching off from the main story, a lack of post-game is completely inexcusable in any RPG.
Yes the only other Pokemon game XY beats in terms of postgame is the original RBY and that was at a time postgames weren't really a thing.
Dude chill
Meh, I disagree. There's nothing inherent about that. Some games have very simple objectives.
Now the gen 6 anime, THAT was something truly memorable
5:30 You forgot the guy giving you a Lapras for free.
Making new 3D models for all 700 something pokemon?
May I mention Pokedex 3D Pro?
that's not really the same honestly and that was when they were makign the 3d models and developing x and y
Honestly I think the only reason I was able to get into Pokemon was because these games were easier even though I wish they were harder now. Wish they added difficulty settings because when I had the game when I was very young I didn't know anything about type matching and stats. I just wanted to have fun.
Yeah i can see a hard mode where the trainers taking advantage of every thing they can, imagine an opponent thunderwaving half your team or going for a sweep lol
Same , I would have never gotten into the Pokémon games if x and y were really hard
Same me and my older brother started pokemon in the kalos in 2014
@@Kage57 just curious, how old were you (and the others in the thread if they see this) when these games came out? It's interesting to see ppl who started with the 3ds generation when I can still remember when gen4 was new and I'm only in my early 20s lol
@@MagillanicaLouM I was 7 when I first got Pokémon y lol every year after that I got the new Pokémon games and some of the older ones
"These games will keep you entertained but not for long"......as I stare at my over 300 hours of gameplay in Alpha Sapphire
*laughs in 800*
@@LucasMBoysOurRoy *Cackles in 999:59 competitive training*
I had like over 600 in x before my data got corrupted
Here a I have 999:59😂
Honestly tho! Gen 6 is the only generation I actually spent time after I beat them. Most of the other gens I beat the championship and I call it a day. Like maybe it’s just me but Pokémon never had a good post game in my opinion. They typically only had like a few small features and that was it.
Despite its easiness am I the only one who *loved* XY? Like the region was amazing, the graphics, the story was not as bad. (IMO)
So with you
You're probably not the only one. Though, I still dislike X & Y. Everything from it's terrible story & worst villians of all time to the horrendous pacing of it's gameplay, forgettable region exploration, forgettable characters, broken battle systems no thanks to Mega Evolution & the difficultly being way too easy ( even without the Exp. Share ), this is definitely my least favorite gen.
You are not alone. I’m straight up obsessed with it.
JJ C “worst villains of all time” *yeah cause Chairman Rose is totally great and amazing*
Doggy. He's not really an villian.
Gen 6 getting a low grade?! *WOW I AM SHOCKED!!!*
People know the negatives and the disappointments. I commented them several times, this vid mentioned them, and probably lots of comments are also listing them here. It's my second least favorite gen. However, I still like the games. XY is very far away from my fav Pokemon games, there are so many things it just scrapped the surface and would have love to see them expanded, but the thing I appreaciate the most is the huge Newbie Boom it brought. Many players began here, more people to battle and trade with, so in the social aspect this game was a success.
I like ORAS the most, love what it brought to the Hoenn mytology and how it expanded the characters and the world. Dex Nav is sincerely, one of my fav features ever introduced: addictive to hunt for Pokemon, as well as giving the player an alternative to random encounters. Soaring was awesome, exploring Hoenn from above and visiting new areas. And I don't have a problem with no Frontier, what bothers me was the reasoning behind it...
Bruno Linares I am going to be completely honest, that newbie boom you mentioned, I was part of it since my “first” Pokémon game was Pokémon Black running on an R4, and due to the R4’s problem with “breaking” when you buy them, I couldn’t finish Black and X was my first time finishing the game all the way. I was truly upset that it was mainly easy. I played Pokémon Black when I was 10 and it was so/so hard. When I went to X when I was 15, I though it was much easier since I could have figure out things better, but the game was much easier in general and I saw how much easy it was when I bought a copy of Pokémon Black, and a legit copy this time, and played it. The fact that Game Freak thinks kids are “not good at handling difficult games” is absolute nonsense. There is literally kids that are amazing at harder video games and the fact that Game Freak doesn’t see that is just sad. Also, I really want to get into competitive Pokémon battling, but as I got older, I have never got the grasp of it due to time.
@@MrOfflineAlways One of the reasons I think XY was made to be an entry for newer players was its lower difficulty. And it must have worked, that game sold inmensely well and I regularly hear comments like: wow I remember XY, my first Pokemon game (I began with Pokemon Gold).
I do agree with the difficulty being poorly implemented. Sweet lord, even turning off the exp share and ignoring the other OP toys the game brings you, it's still a pretty easy experience with how bad the npc teams are designed...
Forgot to mention, "an entry with lower difficulty for newer players". Pokemon (despite being my fav franchise) is already an entry for RPGS in general, and so all games are easy. So an even easier entry just sounded like a bad idea...
Don’t forget the PSS. It made battling randoms so much easier
Honestly, I expected the grade to be lower like a D+
Great review. I like how honest you are in your criticism without being overwhelmingly negative. Pokemon games are generally good but could be better and your review highlights that.
I wish the Looker story from X & Y got a mention. It was phenomenal and really emotional, one of the best parts. It's an element I wish could have gotten an expansion with a possible Pokemon Z. Or heck, make the Looker Detective Agency the driving force of the story as we investigate Team Flare and the legends.
Yeah that would've been way better, that story was cool. Especially since Diantha isn't doing anything about team flare, girl let the damn second in command in her e4 lol (love Malva though).
Yesss, someone said it!
@@MagillanicaLouM do champions even get to decide who's in the elite4?
When some of the gym leader’s Pokémon don’t even have four moves, then you know that something’s been fucked up.
yeah it's pretty sad to say the least
@JPRPokeTrainer98
I second that.
Gen 6 is when I gave up on Pokémon. X&Y were so forgettable to me that i didnt even bother finishing It. I finally replayed it recently and my opinions haven't changed that much, although I can appreciate its qualities. Thankfully I loved gen 7!
glad to hear you got back into it!
Huh
Gen 6 was when I got back into the franchise.
BW1 was when I gave up
Phil 21 Exactly, man! I considered stop playing pokemon after BW. Thanks god XY came to bring me back to pokemons games.
Gen V was disgusting.
Pedro Monteiro if you think Gen 6 is better than Gen 5, then I'm sorry to tell you that you have terrible taste.
Phil 21 Your crazy man. Gen 5 was a lot better. Best story, content and postgame. How can you even hate it? Because there is no Bulbasaur, Charmander or Squirtle?
generation 6 is the start of the Pokemon Franchise going into a downwards spiral IMO. Thanks Masuada
I agree.
At least we got a better Ruby and Sapphire known as Pokemon Alpha Sapphire
Segun. True.
Gen 6 was a huge disappointment, I used to love this game as a kid, but after replaying through it and slowly going through kalos and button mashing my way through an unbearable amount of dialogue from the worst “Rivals” I now hate the kalos region. But I can say that the new games after are even better, and I see the franchise making a huge comeback not only with the new dlc (which I think is an interesting turn of events and I can’t wait) but also with the diamond and pearl remakes that will probably come out next year (it makes sense because 15th anniversary). So although Pokémon has changed radically from these two games, I can see the franchise skyrocket high again. This franchise will always be something special no matter what happens.
Cullen Bloodstone
Seeing so much hate for gen 6 brings tears to my eyes 😭
Tears of joy! I can’t even get started on how these games absolutely ruined Pokémon for me. When I bought them I was so excited and then I played for a few hours and something just seemed off. The models didn’t look too good, the fact that I was just getting all these free Pokémon, those stupid bland “rivals,” I didn’t even get to the second gym and I knew something was wrong. I put the game down for a couple weeks, went back to my heartgold, black, pearl and realized how much better and how much more heart those games felt. To this day I haven’t finished the game and have zero intention, but I’ve clocked hundreds of hours on my gen 4 and gen 5 games to this day. These games truly deserve hate because of how trash they really are !!
They are not Legendary if there's no legend about them. 💯
not every legendary has a legend
The legendary trio brids dont have any legends about them
Neither does Latias & Latios.
Heatran : yes I have legend
Wait I don't?
imo Pokemon X and Y were more about transitioning to 3d rather than making a game BW standard, the ORAS used what X and Y brang to make ORAS imo a really good remake
Thelivelysnivy They're good, but they could be considered a downgrade from Emerald. Except in the music department, everything sounds fantastic on ORAS.
Am I the only person that actually likes the remake of Gen. 3 more than the original?
@@jjc4924 No you're not I prefer Oras over the originals to.
A small correction: the New Mauville sidequest can be accessed after battling Groudon/Kyogre, *not* after beating the game. It's later than in Generation III, yes, but not as late as you say in this video.
im surprised you didn't mention the looker postgame story, that really boosted x and y
true.
Gen 6 had my favorite batch of new Pokémon, and the Fairy-type was an addition that grew onto me quickly, but I do agree the story and game experience was rather lacking in XY.
Yeah. I agree.
I'm seeing a trend with the modern pokemon games..
SwSh is a similar case, it just depends on if the story actually matters this time unlike x and y, but even then no national dex does not make the game worth 60$
Yes he is a gen oner
Who is?
The guy who made this review
@@themarmot8943 Watch his Gen 1 review
Music was top-notch though
Chaos Lesbian I liked the remixes for ORAS and Zinnia's theme. But X and Y have the most forgettable soundtrack for me. That gym leader theme is easily the worst in the series.
Ifrit101 how dare you the music is perfection
I prefer rse’s music over ORAS especially songs like rustburro but x and y’s soundtrack was AMAZING
Facts. X andY’s gym theme is horrible compared to BW/2’s
mujiha
That’s because bw2 had a gimmick with the music and we can agree that both generations had good music
Man, I love hearing ‘good morning everybody, good morning’ at 11:25pm 😂
The two pluses of Gen 6 was getting a new MD game and a great anime
agree to that!
Gens 6 and 8 have a lot of similar issues.
What do you mean?
Yes but Diathia from Gen 6 is way far better as a Pokemon Champion then Leon from Gen 8 is in Pokemon Sword and Shield!
@@oliviamiller1388 she might be a bit better as a concept but she is laughably easy to beat unless you don't ever use Exp Share. Leon can actually be (sadly almost the only) tought opponent (unless you consume too much Exp Candies, of course)
Finally, someone who also thinks that the original ruby, sapphire and emerald is better than oras
landon taylor That’s not an uncommon opinion tho
I’m not surprised
Yeah I mean Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are by far my least favourite Pokémon games alongside Let’s Go Pikachu and Let’s Go Eevee.
Where are you heading now furret?
To the original hoenn region
I think 6th gen is better than sun and moon
Everything is better than sun and moon
Lilcavi At least Sun and Moon weren't easier than buying the games themself
DapperDavid only ultra sun and moon were challenging
At least Sun and Moon had an better story.
I think Gen 6 is underrated mainly because of ORAS. Kalos deserved a Pokemon Z to make it better.
Maybe no one will care about this... but we're missing the berry blending mini game from R/S/E in ORAS. That was one of my favorite things to do in Emerald and I was so excited about contests that when I finally saw the old man telling the player about the berry blender machine that's on display, needless to say I was actually disappointed. I sunk a good few hours of my playtime for those pokeblocks back in the day as a Pokemon Contest buff
I think the Team Flare being Team Rocket and Viridian Forest map thing was more time constraint rather than fan service.... they just got into the 3D realm and probably took a lot of the time on that, so they just took a cookie cutter approach and just crashed in stuff similar to Kanto.... cause Kanto is literally the most bare bones one, so they could just copy paste it without much effort and it'd work.
Think about it. Can they do such a thing with any other generation other than Gen 1???
Heck, they might not even have been thinking of it as Gen 1 fan service, just throwing in some random map part and putting the bare minimum of a "plot" of trying to steal the most obvious things (Master Ball and Fossils).
Rather than being a copy of Team Rocket, I think it just shows how bare bones Team Rocket was....
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Now, the Starters being given might have been fan service, with the 2 Charizards being because so many people wanted a Charizard to be a Dragon. But we also got Lucario as well.
I think a lot of the so called fan service was just cut corners rather than being intended as fan service. I mean, think about it. Would most people even notice if the map was recycled?
Don't try to pass off laziness as being fan service.
Only Gen 7 was as chock full of fan service as people claim and that was more because of the time it came out, the fact that it was time for a Gen 1 remake and they wanted to know how people would view regional variants.
Cause regional variants could have easily gone 2 way (beloved for breathing new life into old Pokemon and expanding the lore, or laziness in designing new Pokemon; plus, Kanto needed more Ice, Steel and Ghost and Dragon types).
The Inverse Battle feature is an underused one. It’s a fascinating and fun one, giving a new angle to battling while being simple to grasp unlike Triple or Rotation battles and making you think while you have to deal with muscle memory in regards to type match ups. Yet it only shows up one time, in a single house on one route late in the main campaign and only accessible once a day. It’d have been a lot of fun to implement this for gym and Elite Four battles, giving these rebattles more difficulty or at least encouraging you to use different teams. It doesn’t hurt that visually it’s still a one on one battle so it doesn’t tax the 3DS’s system like triple or rotation battles would have, and could have carried into Sun and Moon. Given the context the type matchup reversal is implemented with, it could have been applied through use of an in game item that activates inverse mode while in the area you’re in.
This is a little eye opening. People have been upset about no full dex in sword/shield, but if you're right about x/y... if they made sprites for the full dex, wouldn't gen 8 have all the problems of gen 6? Are they just taking a leap of faith and making people mad now to make a better product?
@Mr. Man it's not even a skeleton budget thats the issue its lack of time. Their not giving themselves enough time to finish it, and no matter what they say or do these games are not worth 60$ with no national dex that's less for more
Can we talk about how the Ghost girl in X and Y never got an explanation? Or how there's a whole power plant that goes unused
Probably because they scrapped it.
I stopped playing pokemon for over a decade easy, then my friend convinced me to get X and Y and I loved how different it was. Not I've gone back and bought the gen 3s to 5 to catch up. Gen 6 is my favorite now.
I agree with pretty much everything, but also find these games some of the most charming in the series. I think for me the fact you can replay it over a weekend with very little frustrating parts is the most enjoyable. The region itself is decently atmospheric and I liked a lot of the gen 6 Pokemon too. I've tried replaying gen 5 a few times and keep finding myself losing interest after the second badge or so, where as X and Y I can complete in a few sit troughs.
Gen 6 was my 2nd favorite generation. I do agree with some of the issues that XY and ORAS faced. A Pokémon Z version would’ve probably made Gen 6 a bit better.
Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are probably my least favourite Pokémon games...
What about the original RSE?
I never played the original so I'm wondering if it's any better.
Andrew Harris They aren’t my favourite games in the series but I enjoyed them much better than Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, granted since you played the remakes first, i doubt you will find the originals better just due to natural bias.
@@kpbevan_904 I didn't enjoy ORAS really. I thought the legendaries were lazily slapped around the region in wormholes and regigigas was terribly executed...
The evil team was cool and so was the E4 and region though.
It was ok but I always had issues with it...
Am I the only person that actually prefer Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire over Ruby, Sapphire & Emerald?
@@kpbevan_904 I mean many people fidn the originals better due to natural bias so...yeah
Who still plays Pokemon xy and oras, they were the best games in my opinion
I like how one of the best "feature" of X and Y is the one people (and even GF) forgot most :-D Inverse battle (its shame there was only one battle as its really good addition and while on paper it seems easy enough,pokemon weaknesses and resistances are swaped,in reality these battles could be hard,because you battle greatest enemy of all....your muscle memory)
If no one attacks Area 51 we will release sinnoh remakes
Pokemon X is my favorite Pokémon game, it’s not the best, not close. But my memories with this game!!!! This game was my childhood!
Honestly one of my favorite Gens, it's super underrated nowadays.
Not really underrated. That goes to Firered and Leafgreen.
How it is underrated? It's the best selling 3DS game and one of the most popular Pokemon games, along with Red, Blue & Yellow, Gold, Silver & Crystal and Sword & Shield.
Pokemon X and Y’s music is honestly my favorite part of the game.
ORAS were my favourite games, so I’m dead.
Gen 6 would've been fantastic if GF did these 3 things:
Added a Pokemon Z: Would've gave us so many answers to the questions we have, along with story developments for Lysandre and so forth. Plus, we probably would've had more Mega Pokemon, perhaps even the 3 Kalos Starters having a Mega Form?
Added the Battle Frontier in ORAS: I mean, come on... they literally just needed to add that one thing and I think 90% of people would have been satisifed. Hell, throw in a clothing unlockable that would give Brendan & May their Emerald colours instead of the original red one we got.
Last but not least, adding a Challenge Mode. They literally did it the generation before with B2W2, if they had just changed it to where you could activate the difficulty setting without having to complete the entire game first then it would've been a fantastic addition to an already very easy XY & ORAS.
I feel like GF really let the people down in this generation. There was just so many high hopes, and we got the absolute bare minimum. Not even an apology or explanation as to why there wasn't a Pokemon Z, they just barely touched the surface of this generation and quickly moved onto Gen 7. They better do X&Y justice when they finally get around to remaking it.
Pokemon Missed and Pokemon Opportunity
XY are my favorite Pokémon games
@@KKHell who’s joe
The Unova 3 Musketeers should have bean the Kalos trio
Platinum, heart gold and oras are my favorites
DG 2 any particular reason you prefer ORAS over Emerald?
Will Mau Well ORAS does have better music, Megas, more pokemon, and is more easy to come by than Emerald. I prefer Emerald, but there's nothing wrong with preferring ORAS.
Ifrit101 I’m just genuinely curious, I’m not implying that OP’s wrong to like ORAS more. Could also be younger and not been playing when Gen 3 was new.
Am I the only person that prefer ORAS over Emerald?
I started with gen 6 and loved it. X was my first main pokemon game which I played a whole lot, than alpha sapphire came which is definitely my favorite. I'm gonna have a soft spot for the 6th gen forever.
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Ah, Gen 6. The Sonic '06 of Pokémon. I hate this generation for a multitude of reasons such as the cardboard cutout rivals, stupid villains, dreadful music, lack of story, lack of cohesion, lack of new Pokémon, lack of GOOD new Pokémon, boring region, boring character designs, and the introduction of everyone's least favorite things: *Battle gimmicks and "Gen 1 Pandering"* . The biggest reason I hate it is because of the potential that was squandered due to it clearly being rushed. There are a lot of ideas that, with a little bit of effort and time, could actually work like AZ's story, Mega Evolution, and even the hated friend entourage. While it was designed to be the main series' jump to 3D, XY never accomplished anything outside of that and being a box of ideas that Gen 7's Ride Pokémon came out from. There was no third version or sequel or anything to pick up the slack that was XY. Heck, the "supposed" 3rd version mascot Zygarde had its story in the infamous Pokémon XY&Z anime and it's obtainable forms were shoehorned into SM. Then there was Eternal Flower Floette, which was never released and perfectly sums up XY's lacking in everything and what could have been.
There was also ORAS, a botched up remake of Ruby & Sapphire that did not live up to expectations, especially with the Battle Frontier exclusion. I don't hate it as much as XY(since I've never played RSE), but it was very lacking. Barely anything noteworthy to do, with degraded and boring music and it was all around not a good remake. It's quite shameful that this was my introduction to Hoenn.
After replaying Y recently, I found that the only good things Gen 6 had were the PSS, which made it easier to trade and battle with others (with VOICE CHAT for some reason) and the fact that it brought the community together during 2013-2016. Other than that, it's the most hated generation next to Gen 8, which isn't even out yet and features a region based on a European country. Gen 6 and Kalos will sadly be remembered as the games that *"ruined"* Pokémon, and no potential remake or fangame can change that fact. I'm hoping Sword and Shield will not end up being XY 2.0.
Except benches, I thought those were cool.
Regarding the lacking story and cohesion, I'll just quote:
"You had kings, wars, Pokémon, giant weapons of masss destruction and fanservice for nostalgiafags. How the f*ck can you screw up with that formula?!"
Gen 8 will certainly be better because they aren't putting every Pokemon in, which was a main priority in X and Y and let to a somewhat rushed development cycle (at least from what I can tell)
Mathew Ricafrente
“lack of new Pokémon”
Gen 7 Sun & Moon had exactly that too.
“dreadful music”
Wtf? Boi I gotta stop you right there. X&Y easily had some of the best soundtrack in the entire Pokémon franchise, and the gym leader theme was the only bad one.
“boring region”
Disagreed. Alola was a boring region. Kalos was based off of France and Lumiose City (being based off of Paris, France) is the largest city in the Pokémon world to date.
“boring character designs”
Maybe some of them were. But I liked most of the character designs.
X and Y gen 6 / ORAS had for sure, the best anime, youtube and community in the modern era of pokemon. SM/USUM and more left the scene divided and destroyed now. Gen 6 is the reason why many people picked up 3DS, and know youtubers like you, kgprestige and others in the good old times. Sure the games might have sucked, but for a fact it was one of the best times to be a pokemon fan then.
I totally agree, I play since Yellow and the best community online was during Gen 6! Gen 3 and 4 was the time when we all believed in mysterious occurances and Gen 5 altough it was good was quite silent. I remember ORAS battles on YT and participating myself when YT was flooded with great channels and people.
Best gen don’t @me
(Because of Oras)
I love all of these games bc they were my first games but I can understand why people dislike them
Gen 3, 4 and 5 are my favorite gens, kalos didn't have anything to do after story really, the best games in my opinion seem to have more of an extensive post game and growing up with that it kinda trains the mind to think the main story is only half the journey, platinum and white 2 had plenty of stuff to do after beating the main story, i personally enjoy going and hunting more pokemon and filling out as much pokedex as i can and training up pokes for the battle frontier, the post game in kalos to me was underwhelming, there was no "grandness" to it like it felt in emerald or platinum, it kinda felt like an after thought of the developers, i enjoyed what i did with x but all there is left to do is shiny hunt in friend safari and that definitely not as fun as what platinum or b/w 2 has to offer
I agree that Kalos felt really incomplete due to the lack of explanation behind the legendaries, post game areas, and where the train station in Couriway Town leads. There have been theories that Kalos is close to Galar like France is to England, so the train likely leads there and I really hope that we get to go back there in a future game.
Ok but that Lumiose City theme sure is dang catchy
I think the fact that the 20th anniversary of Pokemon was coming up really screwed this generation a lot. It possibly made the people who worked on the games need to rush these games. I preferred when pokemon took its time with its main-line releases.
Gen 6 would have really benefitted from an expansion. The Kalos region, Pokémon and soundtrack are amazing but it is all wasted on the most shallow and mindless Pokémon game I have played. ORAS fair a bit better but they are still way too easy compared to the originals and dumbed down in terms of progression. Still the expanded characters, soaring and dex nav do help alleviate the games a bit.
I also do not like Mega Evolution in terms of execution. To many Pokémon received Mega's when they didn't need them, breaking already powerful Pokémon. They just make the games even more unbalanced. Its also a major problem that the player mostly fights trainers without Mega Evolution. I sets the match way to much in your favour and both Gen 6 games suffer from this problem. Mega Evolution had potential to be great but in execution I think its one of the worst mechanics ever introduced to Pokémon.
I agree with most of your points, but I completely disagree with the "Pokémon who didn't need a mega" bit. The only broken Pokémon who received a mega was blaziken (for fanservice reasons); other strong Pokémon who had the same treatment were garchomp and tyranitar, but their megas were never relevant (M-Garchomp was in fact worse than regular Garchomp). Every other Pokémon with a mega needed that mega to compete.
Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like Mega Evolutions.
Honestly, Gen 6 felt incomplete, that's it. You can see the skeleton of what was supposed to be, but maybe they couldn't finish it due to THEM LIMITING THEMSELVES TO ONLY A FEW YEARS TO DEVELOP A GAME. Seriously, Diancie was clearly supposed to have a event to herself with that mysterious glass room but they changed that to a mega spot. The power plant was supposed to be a place but they scrapped that too. They shoe horned Hoopa into ORAS for some reason. Volcanion did whatever. There were hints about things to come everywhere, like the new lady saying she was going to find a pokemon, or the rail network going nowhere. Everything in gen 6 felt like they scrapped the game and saved it for later installments. Gen 6 was their "baby's first attempt" so they played it too safe. I mean it took until ORAS for our characters to be able to move in a circle. Just imagine what Kalos would've looked and feel like if they used the sun and moon engine to create all the awesome views in Pokemon X and Y. I'm really hoping for a proper remake in 2025 to fix my personal favorite gen. Just the feeling of going through Kalos is unlike any other from any pokemon game.
Gen 6 is heavily slept on
Keep sleeping on it, maybe it'll go away
Mathew Ricafrente you don’t have to play it
It doesn’t have much so of course people don’t care for it.
Z- Reggie it’s a fun adventure full of charm, without the expectation, the preconceived idea about what should be in a Pokémon game (like post game content and a better story) I imagine most people would have loved these games
Those expectations have caused us to create a bar....a line....that if a game does not meet this bar then it is bad
It’s a narrow minded way of looking at things, we lose sight and appreciation of everything a game has to offer because we are so preoccupied with what it does not...
It’s like going to Disney land and having your favourite ride closed down....there is still so much to enjoy about Disney land however to some people they don’t have the ability to appreciate everything else or anything else and now Disney land sucks because space mountain is closed down
Plenty to appreciate in most things we just have to choose for ourselves wether we want to focus on being happy or focus on being negative
We have far more power in the control of wether or not we enjoy a game than we realize
It takes an internal change of character to go from focusing on he negative to focusing on the positive (not artificially in your mind I mean ACTUAL appreciation...tangible enjoyment) You can eat a good meal with a great dessert at a restaurant....but the next time you go there you order the same meal and it’s good but then you find out they don’t have the dessert anymore and so you’re disappointed and dissatisfied ....the experience is now “bad” for you even though for another person who didn’t care if there was dessert or not....they would think the meal was really good! They enjoy and appreciate the food they got instead of focusing on something they didn’t get
And it just takes a change in a person’s heart and mind from negative to positive, apparently it’s a completely foreign concept and action to people...they don’t know how to let go of the negative and enjoy what they can for the sake of their own happiness
When I see Avengers Endgame....do I let the fact that Tony Stark just casually solves time travel one evening? Or the weird science behind all the time travel stuff? No. Why would I purposefully make my experience of something worse?
Well a lot of people do this....but it’s not purposefully....the are not setting their intentions or controlling their emotions proactively before hand....
I used to be like this....and so I very much disliked Gen 5 and Gen 6 when they first came out....:I was negative and complained and didn’t get enjoyment out of the game....but after some personal work and revelations I understood the state of spirit and mind I had when I was a child....that I would pretty much enjoy anything you threw at me....give me a ball and I could spend hours of fun....give me a new Pokémon game and I don’t care what it is I’m going on a fun adventure!
And so I revisited Gen 5 and Gen 6 back in 2016 and had a completely different experience with the games when I just opened my heart and mind, setting my emotional and mental intention to enjoy the games regardless of what I thought I “knew” before .....regardless of my previous thoughts and opinions
If I was never open to changing myself I would have never grown to love these games and I would be missing out on a lovely addition to my life.
I couldve stuck with the opinion that I hated those games and the Pokémon sucked now and it as too linear etc....and most people stick to their previous mindsets and opinions for life. Never changing or growing.
It was only until I changed myself, was I capable of appreciating these games and all the things they have to offer ....
The things that I had previously been BLIND to... if you understand me
At the time if you were to tell me those games were good I would’ve argued until I was blue.....nothing would change my mind.....but after being able to see a bigger picture .....and the other side of my own personal growth I now have more knowledge, understanding and perspective than I did back then
And so I know what it’s like to be where you are now and I know trying to change your opinion isn’t going to work so I’m talking to you because I want to let you know I used to be like you, until I changed my own inner workings and now I would never go back....because after seeing good where you never saw it before....why would you ever want to erase that?
If you played X and Y as a child how would you have felt about it then...is a good way to reorient yourself
And if you can’t or don’t want to, that’s fine, but if you’ve never been to the other side you can’t really tell someone that there isn’t another side
Yeah I get what you mean, the only thing is I loved Gen 6 as a kid and as I’ve gotten older I just didn’t like it as much anymore. I even replayed it recently trying to get that feel I had when I was a kid but I just couldn’t even looking past it’s flaws didn’t help me. I don’t hate Gen 6 but I can’t say I love it either. My standards for a good Pokémon game are basic it needs to have a good story, interesting Pokémon( well interesting to me at least), and a rival I can really hate and enjoy beating. In my opinion XY didn’t do that for me, also I’m indifferent when it comes to ORAS they were just there no hate no love. XY were decent games Imo, my love for the games when I was 11 compared to now has just fade a bit. My favorite Pokémon is Black and Gen 5 gets tons of hate I just have a bias towards it. I do apologize if I sound like an ignorant child I really just made that comment to see what would happen. Also thank you my eyes were opened a bit I will try loving Pokémon games more, and not judge them based on what I hear about them or things youtubers point out.
I don’t think XY is as much flawed as it is undercooked. What is there is phenomenal, to the point it is one of my favorite Pokémon games. But it’s missing a lot of stuff present in Gen 5, likely due to the time crunch of going 3D. It reminds me a lot of Diamond and Pearl. It never got its Platinum. I really wish that rather than getting a semi-rushed Sun and Moon (resulting in a truncated Gen 6) for the 20th anniversary, we got Pokémon Z either before or after ORAS.
Gen 6 felt like an oddly-incomplete generation which is odd because no generation really felt that way up to that point. The lack of any Zygarde story and good post-game in XY, combined with the lack of and the teaser of the Battle Frontier "coming soon" in ORAS really felt like it warranted a Z Version to tie them all together. Z could've involved the actual Complete Zygarde story, similar to the anime, and also had you visit the Hoenn Battle Frontier in the post-game, but instead we got nothing in 2015 and got SM in 2016 which just sort of shoehorned in Zygarde's forms. This gen fell short for me because I spent most of 2014 and 2015 hoping for some sort of Z announcement, and it never came. I enjoyed both XY and ORAS individually, but not to the extent I would say I enjoyed games like Emerald, Platinum, or HGSS.
Unpopular opinion: XY is one of my favorite pokemon games (and I really enjoyed the plot). And I'm having a tough time trying to figure out why, but I think it's because I really like the 3D graphics, battle mason, mega evolutions, and not having a stupid rotom dex. I think the rotom dex map always on ruins SM because it ruins the surprise of exploring and finding new places. Sure the game was too easy, but I guess I just got used to it (and didn't play B2W2).
I'd love it. The music in the city is soo nostalgic that I begin to tear up. The first time we went into 3d.. I also love the map and the art style. Yeah it was easy which is sad, and also thst the gym leaders were really boring. But I still have great memories with it.
Features they removed for no Gat Damn reason.
I mean, Dexnav was literally a god-sent feature and would've SO come in handy for S&M.
Why remove a feature that let's you know if you caught all the pokemon in the area?!
GF secretly want war with their consumers..
I don't know about the rest of you guys n girls but, finding alolan rattatas in EVERY grass in Alola got boring Real quick and if not rattata, it was Definitely yungoos 😒
We need a new X & Y remake to cover the story line more
X and y added the LEAST number of new Pokémon in the series.
Gen 8 Sword and Shield: “Hold my national dex. “
actually mega evolutions, Gigantamax and regional variants count as new Pokémon
Ey bro, I gotta admit, I've been watching your vids for like maybe the past week + now. You've absolutely earned my subscribe 👌🏻💪🏻
As much as I feel that gen 6 is the one gen in need of a remake to flesh out the region and its lore, it was also a shiny hunting haven and I have spent well over 5k hours just shiny hunting on that gen.
Shoot. Not an remake. But an enhanced version more accurately. It desperately needed an enhanced version.
I disagree. It was one of my fav generation and my first game was red when I was 9. Still you got my like because I enjoy your videos so thank you.
XY is the most forgettable game in my opinion. It didnt get a immediate "remake" like BW and DP to fix its issues. If their was one it would be such a good game! The only thing they need to fix is:
1.Stop pandering gen one
2.Give a difficulty setting
I think XY would need a lot more fixing than just reducing the amount of Gen 1 stuff and adding difficulty settings (that weren't gated by version exclusivity).
It would definitely help if the story and characters didn't give me an aneurysm.
@@popplio7891 The character were EASILY the flattest when it comes to character
BW2 didn't fix anything from BW, they were planned sequels as the story resume 2 years after BW & the only minor fixes that are worth noting for BW are the repel reload & breeder trainers are rematchable by leaving & reentering again. Everything else was new features to BW2 & well deserved as best generation.
@@CheeseTank12 oh dont forget More areas and better pokemon distribution.
Hands down the weakest generation. Sure, the gen introduced some cool concepts (that were sadly removed in gen 7 so eh) but with it being the weakest mainline games aside from gen 1, soulless 3D models, cutting content, and no third version (seriously everyone and their grandmother thought Pokemon Z was coming November 2015) so that just makes it worse. And the cherry on top is the absolute murder of mythical. Easily the worst thing they've ever done to a group of Pokemon. They used to be involved in the world and have such rich lore added to them but now they're just like candy handed to you. Such a fall from grace. And no battle frontier ORAS (but seriously too challenging for new kids??? Kids aren't stupid Masuda.) was ok but other than that the only thing saving this gen is the new Pokemon designs, the anime, a new MD game, and Kalos looks pretty. That's it. In conclusion, these games had so much potential but sadly these games made me the most disappointed in Pokemon since the huge focus on Mobile games. Gen 5 kicks this Gens ass in my opinion. 1/10
Jan Plix I have to disagree with Gen 6 pokemon designs. Most of the Kalos pokemon are forgettable and just look boring. I like Greninja, the fossil pokemon, Hawlucha, the Honedge line, Sylveon, Clawitzer, Xerneas, all the megas, Phantump, and Klefki. Everything else sucks. Delphox is the most boring final evolution I've seen for a starter, Zygarde is a pokemon that just kind of...exists, and you cannot tell me that there is a single person on Earth that likes Binacle.
Imo, Kalos had worst story, worst rival, worst champion, worst evil team and worst post game content.
I haven't played any of the 3D Pokemon games. I stop after Gen. 5 cause I've moved on. So hearing people on how Gen. 6 and onwards went into an dumpster was both disappointing and sad at the same time. What happened? Why is Pokemon being so lowed now? It's almost like there turning into how modern Final Fantasy games does and I'm an huge fan of Final Fantasy. Hopefully FF7R is good and I've heard it's great. So that gives me much hope. But how will Pokemon make an comeback?
JJ C The reason? Stupid Genwunners couldn’t stop whining and moaning about Gen 5 causing them to put less effort in more recent titles.
@@KKHell I just appreciate the little touches like how he uses his tongue for a scarf. Also, Greninja is based on a Japanese folktale character named Jiraya, a ninja who could transform into a giant frog.
Ah yes, the beginning of the end for Pokemon :(
Absolutely agree with everything except the 3D models. The models inject personality and life into the Pokemon. That was the only step up during this gen.
@@KKHell Thanks for attacking my character over a neutral comment, without a rebuttal, random internet person. I hope it helps you sleep well at night.
My first Pokémon games and I love them because of that, also I do really love all the new Pokémon, and region as a whole. I really wish Pokémon Z happened
Pokemon Y was my first ever Pokemon game. I had a TERRIBLY unbalanced team of Greninja, Charizard, Lucario, Talonflame, Azumarill, and Yveltal. But even though it was my first game, I understand that it was pretty bad. Not a great story, and super easy. I really hope that X and Y get remakes this Gen PLEASE! There is so much potentional in Kalos, ESPECIALLY consiering how great the Anime was.
I want all of the Gym Leaders and Elite 4 to have a Mega Evolution. Even Viola, been the first Gym Leader, could have a Mega Beedrill since you can get Beedrill at level 10.
Diantha was done dirty. Not only was she completely wasted in the main story but the creators didn't bother to make her a real challenge as a Champion. On paper, her team's pretty good. In practice, they fucked it up because neither Gardevoir nor Aurorus know Hyper Voice, which takes advantage of Pixilate and Refrigerate respectively, and Tyrantrum had Head Smash despite not having Rock Head. Also, Goodra rightfully belonged to Drasna. Give Diantha Blissey with Seismic Toss, Counter and Toxic for a stronger defensive core while Gourgiest handles physical attackers with Will-O-Wisp. Save Goodra for rematches where she replaces Tyrantrum and Aurorus with Goodra and Eelektross respectively. Then we'd have real Champion material.
Kalos will forever be in my heart
So what I need to know is that Pokemon is one of the most profitable franchises of games/anime/etc. and Gamefreak is not putting doing their best creating new content/new games? We've all seen this before guys. Star Wars for instance is just a mirror of its past movies. Super Mario Bros. new games are just 3d versions of the old characters. There's a bunch more that I coincidently forgot ;-; but the main thing is that the best stories are from games/books/movies that take what has already been made and *Improve* it. Gamefreak hasn't improved since when? Maybe gamefreak doesn't need to handle this franchise anymore...
gen 6 got me through high school but i felt bad it since it was never complete
I think XY were perfect starts to the post-sprite era, felt like an adventure and the bottom screen social/amie/super training were the best they’ve been as well as trainer customisation.
I think from there it was a steep decline ending with SUMO, over 10 friends in their mid 20s bought 3ds/2ds to get back into Pokémon after Pokémon go and 9 of them didn’t make it past the first gym with how hand holdy sumo was, the third game on a console 20 years deep into a franchise and I treats you like you can barely breathe by yourself.
Lacking a post game and being generally too easy are also complaints but as the start of the generation I’m fine with a lot of that
I loved kalos man, i dont get why people dont like it
OrAs also removed character customization immediately after introducing it, and when questioned about it, they said "Well you can put the Item Finder on your head, that's character customization".
X and Y were their first attempt at a 3D world, and we forgave them for it's lack of polish. But OrAs was terrible on purpose.
Gen 6 would've been great if half the generation wasn't cut. I'm talking no 3rd version/sequel versions, intentionally cut Emerald features in ORAS, etc.
I agree with literally everything said. Gen6 brought some nice quality-of-life features, but it cost everything else... I would say that considering the time period, this is probably the worst generation.
At least the new pokemon designs were good though. Gourgiest, Tyrantrum and Malamar remain some of my favourites.
Also ORAS forced Lati@s on you mid-game. That wasn't fun. I wanted to save it for later but noooo.
didn't cost everything I didn't mind gettiong a legendary mid story felt weird yet cool wasn't that op
@@Jdudec367 I didn't say it was OP. I said I wanted to do it later, at my own leisure. You can't even knock it out and come back later like other legendaries.
@@tyranitararmaldo true you didn't say It was op and zi heard what else you said
I never played any Pokemon games after Gen. 5. So am I missing anything?
@@jjc4924 only seeing pokemon from gen 5-onwards in 3D. And Sun/Moon has a good plot (but it just does not involve your character).
Other than that, you are missing nothing.
i'm binging this mini series and i can't disagree with your reviews at all! subscribed!
You should upload the gen 7 review (if you make one) on the same day the sun and moon anime releases its last episode of the series
Kalos was my first region i played ! Pokèmon X ! I feel bad that there is no Z or X 2. Kalos is by far the best looking region...
This game really was fun to play, but also really, really dull. I had more fun actually battling and playing around than I did actually following the story. And not to mention the fact that most of the Kalos trainers have like. Three Pokémon or less. That was the biggest blah of Kalos to me. Tougher battles are fun, but when I have literally twice as many Pokémon as the other people, a battle is completely dull. And good gosh, Tierno and Trevor are totally freakin useless. Just spread their traits over to Serena/Calum and Shauna. That would make it much more fun.
While playing through the story of Y and X, I was pretty bored by the story. I was thinking that once I finished I could really get started but there was hardly anything for me to do afterwards. In my opinion, they are the worst Pokémon games to date.
I actually enjoy gen 6 a lot, i just started using over 30 pokemons during gameplay. That made the game more fun than previous gens and provided the challenge I was looking for
I also use 30 pokemon in gen 7 but at the end game I drop 2 teams because I was underleved Still mutch more fun than using only 6 or 10.
yeah i must admit X&Y had a lot of gym rushing around the other half and a lot of problems but for some reason it’s still like my 2nd favorite game