Disney CLOSES Star Wars Hotel - NOT SURPRISED
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2023
- Disney has officially announced the closure of their Star Wars Galactic Cruiser Hotel at 5000 for a few nights. This sequel trilogy themed 'experience' hasn't done as well as they probably imagined. Here are my thoughts on how to open an extremely successful hotel after this failure.
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Disney should create an experience which gives the option to become a Jedi at a Jedi Temple, a Sith at a Sith Temple, or a Bounty Hunter at a Bounty Hunter's Guild School. Each will give a totally new and unique experience that will for sure make fans of all ages (especially kids asking their parents) to go to the next experience, which is a completely new price, rooms, etc. Encompassing all eras of Star Wars is the way to go. Please be inclusive, Disney, and let all Star Wars fans enjoy and in turn you will never have to shut down a bad idea again.
if they lowerd price maybe made it same as other hotel prices they had rather then what it was at maybe it be still be open.. but once again disney showing they want money.
Agree completely. No one cares about some random space themed hotel that just feels so non Star Wars.
I really like what you said about including all parts of star wars rather than making everything about sequels
Unless Disney abandons the sequel trilogy, at least for a good chunk of time they’ll never make any money! They need to market to the prequel trilogy because that is the generation that is still young, travels there, and has a pretty good amount of money. Aka my gen
I agree with what you said Theory
Disney: Why can’t people afford our $5,000 a day stay at our mediocre scam of a hotel
Two reasons one the majority of americans dont make that kind of money a day so that effectively means the majority of americans probabllly wouldnt want to waste money and two with the inflation everything is costing more putting a strain on peoples walets
@@anakinskyogre1037 you act like he was legitimately asking
Lol even with more than $5,000 in my bank account to spare I still wouldn’t spend that much on the hotel despite being a Star Wars Fan!
$5000 you could spend on a beach at the Philippines or Hawaii than some cramped shithole. And it probably wouldn't even be that expensive.
@@jon6309 just to see discount Rey and Kylo fight? you couldn’t even pay me to sit through that……again???
This could've been such a big success had it been a prequel/originals themed hotel, with far better pricing.
Run it didn't even matter it coulda been seasonal all eras etc but what park goers asked for was JUST a star wars themed place hotel didn't have to be some huge financial specific gamble and all on just one small area of operation like just sequels and just extended stays
Bro you can't even go to the parks you have to also buy extra tickets smh it's wa so dunb
The pricing was the nail in the coffin for me.
Pricing alone would of saved it
Yup
Could have worked, but had 0 chance at the absurdly high cost
This is not a loss for the fandom. Only a loss for Disney.
Disney is a loss for the fandom.
@@crewchief5144 Depends on which fandom your talking about.
@@DocMicrowave THE fandom. The folks that were excited about Episode I coming out and then severely let down. Then they waited and watched everything after...and were let down, again and again and again...
@@crewchief5144 The target fandom of Disney is not the older, die hard fans. The ones who actually spend money.
They only want to appeal to a young, newly created fandom. And it just isn't working.
I don't think "THE FANDOM" as you put are are excited about anything Disney tries to put out now. Thus, they are no longer a fandom.
@@DocMicrowave Fine. The ORIGINAL fans, those that saw it when it came out and grew up with it no longer care.
RIP SW 1977-2012
Dude, Disney is just so beyond disconnected from us.
Disney is not doing well as a company right now at all, Disney+ is actually losing them money. They keep making lazy remakes of movies with just a minority actor in the lead role, it’s more insulting then anything, can’t give minorities their own original stories, just going for the quick easy buck with the race swap. Plus this 5k Disney hotel, crazy they think the average fan could’ve afforded that. They also had plans to build some massive project in Orlando but canceled it and blamed desantis for it, truth is they’re cutting 5.5. Billion in spending, they aren’t broke yet but they can’t keep this up. You can’t keep losing 100s of millions on movies and projects and survive.
Just for context, I spent a little over $5,000 to backpack europe for 30 days visiting 8 countries. That price includes airfare and my hostels/hotels every night.
Or i could have spent that money on a windowless hotel room that looks like the jail cell in Andor to cosplay in a generic space environment for 48 hours…
It's just hilarious to me how insane Disney is as a company. You couldn't even pay me to work for them knowing what they do. Sorry Swoozie, but I don't see the magic in working for them at all
100 bucks a night is 3000 bucks for 30 days.
Interrail train pass for 30 days = 350 bucks (allowing you to travel anywhere in Europe by train as much as you like).
40 euro per day for food and drinks for 30 days is 1200
3000+1200+350= 4550
So you even save 450 euros for other stuff.
Disney has gone completely crazy.
@@bodigames Yeah you nailed it. My trip was a bit more bc i had to get a roundtrip flight from the states but you can get deals on flights depending on when you book and where you land. Whole trip cost me around $5300 USD
@@Escape.Velocity you had such an awesome experience for 30 days because visiting Europe is really fun knowing you can go wherever you want inside the Schengen area, and for that Star Wars jail cell you feel like a prisoner with good food for 5k in one night such a bummer
It was about 5k for 2 people for the 3day/2nite, not 5k a night.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Disney keeps doubling-down on stupid.
Lol, the sequel trilogy failed on a massive level and Disney is like, welcome back Rey for another adventure that everyone was waiting to see! *crickets* I don't want to see another Mary-Sue adventure!
@@Fifth313ment "You know what was fans' favorite part of the sequel trilogy? Rey! :D" *Facepalms ensue*
@@mar_speedman you're living in a fantasy land. Rey sucks. Her lightsaber skills, suck. Character development, sucked. Suddenly became all powerful without doing anything. Definitely a Mary Sue. Not entertaining to watch. Even the actress didn't like her character, because Rey didn't make any sense. "The new chosen one" that's just bad/lazy writing. The sequels suck and I feel back that that's the star wars the kids of this generation get to know.
@@squishypineT03 *More facepalms ensue*
You really didn't notice the sarcastic undertone to my comment at all, did you?
@Mar Speedman Disney is one of those companies that doesn't care what it's fans want. It's like you have a realtor and she shows you five houses and you say, I'm not interested in any of the houses you showed me, I want "x". And then she immediately takes you to see five more of the same houses. Disney doesn't care but it's going to get them sued by their shareholders. They want to push this woke agenda while the majority of their customers are straight nuclear families. Unbelievable
What's so mind-boggling to me is that as much as Disney markets themselves as such massive money-grubbing capitalists, they cut off 66% of their target market by using only sequel-trilogy-exclusive content themes for the hotel. On top of that, they blacklist people like Theory who can make content 1000x better than them with a handful of people and a notepad of ideas. And now it's going under. I couldn't have laughed any harder at this.
Anyways, good luck speaking with your investors in your meetings on Monday.
@@telegra443no
Execute order 66%
@@nUmBskulLL Bro that's so clever, I didn't even think of that. But thts exactly what they did.
Disney is losing a ton of money and it hasn’t been a good year past 2 years especially this past one. They’ve had to cut over 5.5 billion in spending, they’re laying off 7000 employees. They keep making lazy remakes with just a different skin color playing the roles, it’s actually insulting more then anything, can’t give minorities their own original stories. They have this 5k Disney hotel, crazy to think the average fan can afford that. They’re beyond so out of touch, they actually have been losing money on their Disney + subscription service.
@@Scheboygan8767 based asf yes! Give people of color their own stories that are inspiring instead of shitty remakes!
The pricing is ridiculous we all know this and it’s the main reason for the shut down. But the people that did get to go regardless, most of the experience came from the cast members who worked there. Props to them for everything they did to make the starcrusier feel very alive and interactive. I almost had the opportunity to work on the starcrusier but i did pass on it, but I know friends who took the offers and it was one of their best job positions.
For real it really was the price tag and how exclusive they tried making it. Because this was very exclusive which makes sense but don’t try to them say hey want many people to experience it with that price tag!
I’m glad you mentioned that:) every review I watched (including the negative ones) spoke highly of the staff:) it’s not their fault they were given such an unsustainable situation. It makes me sad to hear that some of them really loved their job and will be losing out now that it’s closing 😢 Disney really screwed them over too.
I love how Theory just came up with a better hotel experience in 5 minutes than Disney did for years
Ikr! He likes Star Wars. Disney only likes Disney Wars.
I thought the same thing when he brought up the idea for this stuff before
@@zxyatiywariii8 FACTS
Ironic
Making it affordable would be a nightmare for Disney. That’s kinda why this is failing…
Disney should really just hire this man for designing fan experiences. He has more of an idea of what fans want than Disney ever will and it's been proven over and over again the past 5 plus years.
What? He only has 3.3million subscribers, people dont like what he has to say or his ideas ;)
This would entail them to admit they don’t know jack and he’s been right. isn’t gonna happen 😂
@@BigPapiChi lmao very true
@@davidschruhl5628 True true ;) Having millions of people who back you and your content means nothing lol.
I’ve never heard of this but the fact that they made an incredibly expensive hotel (both to maintain for Disney and to stay at for customers) and immediately alienated the majority of the fandom and virtually all hardcore fans by making it sequel trilogy only means it was only doomed for failure.
Although I do get that the sequel trilogy does alinate a audience idk how Star Wars can come up with an era that isn’t ancient past or a far future
Imagine a prequel or original trilogy hotel. The possibilities are endless and would be epic. Absolutely a waste of money and ideas.
Or recreate Jabba’s Palace, with the prison cells for rooms? I’d pay to go there in a heartbeat.
Exactly, Disney is delusional for this
I want a live action clone wars show also.
I know lots of people who definitely would've saved up money for an original trilogy hotel or a prequel hotel!
A downsized version of the Jedi temple on coruscant would've been enough.
The more they try to jam the sequel trilogy down our throats, the more I hate it. I am happy this failed. Disney deserves nothing until Kathleen is gone and they start pumping out REAL Star Wars content.
its more the price I feel like was the problem
Nobody EVERY quotes the sequel trilogy yet we’re supposed to believe it’s a hit
There is only one line that I often quote from the Sequals... One one line out of three movies!
Do you know the line?
It is old Han Solo saying "that is not how the Force works!"
She will never leave, she is the real life palpatine.
I'm also glad this failed and almost feel bad for the workers but if you're working for Disney without doing your research on their capitulation to the CCP and blatant hypocrisy then idk what to tell you.
Three hotel towers (example) Tatooine, Endor, Deathstar. All with various price points depending on how luxurious your room is. Each tower fully themed of course but also having its own unique star wars attractions e.g. Endor has a huge forest jungle gym, Tatooine has the original bar with the original band (animatronic or live actors) Death Star has a massive high class restaurant where Vader and the emperor stride through intermittently.
I am but a pleb, imagine what actual fully fledged Imagineers could come up with. A one eyed monkey could come up with a better concept than Disney's so called "award winning" effort.
Pricing mostly everyone out of a popular franchise, especially when it's aimed at kids who will NEVER get to see it thanks to the rip off price is DISGUSTING. Good riddance Galactic failure.
They need to include multiple unique experiences for all age groups like a romantic getaway vacation based on Padme and Anakin's trip, a cantina hopping experience, the gambling planet from Last Jedi, etc.
The entire detour to Canto Bight was terrible, but yes, this would still be a fun experience for fans.
Damn those 5 people who went there are probably very sad about this.
Yeah me and my 4 other imaginary friends were very sad not to see those thic stormtroopers again dancing 😢
My daughter's 1st grade teacher went and loved it.
@@jxchamb on a teachers salary??? A teacher can afford this?
@@BarbRogersMs.SolarTerror yea they can crying and complaining about their poor salary in strikes also using school money that should be for kids 😂. You’d be surprised this goes on.
@@BarbRogersMs.SolarTerror I know, right. Blew my mind when she told me about it.
Disney's hubris and insanity is beyond belief. How do these fools reach such heights of power?
GIF of Mr. Burns's army of high priced lawyers
Same way the Empire reached such power: greed for power and using the ever living Force for personal gain. Star Wars is a nonfiction epic packaged in sci-fi Jedi/Sith robes.
KKs affirmative action
International clique that gains power in all institutions, then they load up on diversity hires. They buy the rights from truly remarkable minds they milk it to death and move on.
By assuming the position for favors.
You could literally spend a week enjoying Disneyland for $5000, that price is ridiculous.
If you're a vet, you can stay at Shades of Green for two weeks...three if you're disabled.
Exactly you can stay at Disney for a week or something take your time with all the parks and eat at various restaurants and even get a couple of souvenirs or trinkets😂
To be accurate, Theory, the “voyage” costs around $1,200 per person per day, with family packages reaching closer to $6,000 for the two-day experience. Still a ridiculous rip off.
Wow that’s actually super important to point out. I was under the impression it was 5k a head per day. But even if it was free and I just had to pay to travel to the hotel, I probably wouldn’t do it because that setting isn’t Star Wars to me. It’s just a ship…
Disney seeing the Star Cruiser sales: “Time to abandon ship” 😂
😂😂😂
💀
We all knew this was going to happen sooner or later. I still think it's very strange that it never actually looked like a Star Wars attraction. Same goes for the park itself. Why on earth didn't they make Tatooine with the cantina and Jabba's palace etc... or Endor with an Ewok village.
'Cause those were created by Lucas and not Disney?
Because if it’s not the disney way it doesn’t count lol
Disney does not want to pay licensing royalties to George Lucas for anything he created prior to the 2012 acquisition.
They'd likely have to give George royalties.
Honestly take it one step further, imagine at each Disney park (Orlando, LA, Tokyo, Paris) they had a different planet for “Galaxy’s Edge”. Tatooine in LA, Endor in Paris, coruscant in Tokyo, etc. Traveling to each of these parks is traveling to a different planet and experience.
You gave a good message, with wonderful ideas. I do like the immersion aspect that they were trying to do. They could definitely make a laser tag battle where one side suits up as stormtroopers and the other rebels. Just being immersed in the galaxy of Star Wars.
They should have tried a moderately priced SW themed hotel first… a hotel that is branded like THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY … where you can stay the week and enjoy leisure … not be overwhelmed with schedule commitments to see dinner theatre …
It's way too expensive. I'm surprised it took this long for it to close down
Right!? I thought they announced they were closing it 6 months ago
5k a night... Even those with 1-2k a night are struggling. I'm also more surprised that they stay longer than expected.
I remember when this hotel came out a bunch of content creators got invited and shilled the hell out of it trying to convince people that it was worth the money, what an absolute joke 😂
Which ones? All i remember are the ones warning us of the scam
@@Grid433 supercarlinbrothers made a video that actually got me pretty hyped for it.
Oh yeah. They grifted HARD.
I remember Eric Goldman over at Screen Junkies went.
Thats the reason I support SWT. He keeps it real. All these other star wars creators are told what to or what not to say by disney.
On another note: We went to Galaxy's Edge at Disney World this summer, and I have to say I was pretty bored walking around looking at stuff. It was sad to me, because I love Star Wars, and am an OG trilogy fan since 1977. They could have made this awesome and interesting. Meeting Chewie at Launch Bay and seeing the ship models was far more interesting to me than the Galaxy's Edge garbage. While the Resistance ride was loaded with uninteresting sequel trilogy stuff I had no interest in, the illusion of being transported off-world was very impressive. I enjoyed seeing the Millennium Falcon and riding Smuggler's Run. I got a big kick out of that. Sad story: I felt like Rey was only focusing on meeting with girls, and pretty much ignored any boys that wanted to meet her. My son was up next to talk to her and get a picture, she broke away from talking to a couple of girls, left my son hanging and walked to the other side of the section we were in to talk to a baby that wasn't in line to see her, and then she left. I felt bad for my son, and that really hurt me as a parent to know my son was ignored, but I flipped the script for my little guy and played it like he was protecting Rey from the First Order who was showing up shortly after. I guess the Force is Female at the parks.
Your son learned a very valuable lesson that day: Rey is the worst!
@@austinbevis4266 but she’s the BESTEST JEDAI EVAR!!!!
We had a great time at the SoCal one. Going to do the Star Cruiser trip this Summer and I'm hoping it's even better.
Don't get me wrong...
Not a sequel fan. Force Awakens had promise and I think that's about where the park stops. Kylo is always masked and it doesn't get too cornball from what I've seen.
I also can't stand what Disney has done to the franchise but since I first rode Star Tours, I dreamed of a "Star Wars land" and I saw it in a drive-thru AND indoors during the first re-release. I'm an OTF too, but Disney trips are what you put into it.
Maybe I'm just simple, but I could nap next to the gonk droids and vaporators. That's MY type ASMR vibe.
Your words remind me of the promo videos for 'Star Tours' that played while you were waiting in line. They actually advertised skiing trips on Hoth, desert treks on Tatooine, & nature retreats on Endor. Disney already laid the groundwork for how they could tackle doing a Star Wars themed vacation package over 40 years ago (at least in terms of the approach of basing it on multiple classic locations from the movies), and they just ignored it!
I stayed there last June with my nieces. It wasn't really a hotel so much as it was like going on a cruise ship. We had a great time. They fed us. They entertained us with live music. They docked the ship and let us out to explore the mainland (Galaxy's Edge's Batuu). It should have been marketed as a cruise in the Star Wars universe, not as a hotel. We hardly spent any time in our room, which was small. It was just a place to sleep and shower. The biggest problem, as anyone and everyone will point out, was that it was based on the Disney sequels, which were demonstrably terrible. No Luke Skywalker. No Darth Vader. If they had themed this on the original trilogy it might have worked. There was an engineering room much like an escape room. They had a running storyline based on the First Order and, spoiler alert, Rey and Kylo Ren showed up. When I left I thought, "There's no way this will survive the test of time and I'm sure it will be gone in a few years unless they re-theme it." Long defunct Disney attractions take on a legendary status after they're gone, and I'm glad I got to experience this in all its glory and inevitable doom.
Oh, and I should mention that we got Covid there from a friend my nieces met on the Starcruiser.
Yeah, I think that's a great point. This seems to me to be exactly what you said, a cruise that takes place within the Star Wars universe. Which is why the "cruise ship" doesn't scream Star Wars, but instead "generic space" themed. Definitely a missed opportunity with a ton of potential.
@@troyfoster6004 I mean...to be fair that could have happened anywhere, but I can see how it wasn't the kind of souvenir you'd want with the memory.
For that kind of money why didn’t you go to Paris or Venice
Unless I'm mistaken, it's a building, isn't it? I feel like if it was marketed as a cruise, people would get irritated/confused at not _actually_ going somewhere. I know it's a LARPing experience and we're pretending, anyway, but my immediate thought is "how is that a cruise?", and I feel like I wouldn't be alone in that thought process.
Then again, I'm not the target audience. *WAY* outside my budget, and I've never had even the slightest interest in cruises, hotels, or themeparks. My vacations are _staycations;_ I just wanna rest! XD
If Universal made a Hogwarts Hotel...THAT would kill.
They should have made a hotel where each floor is a different planet with it’s own experience.
Can we just appreciate how he sat here and gave this more thought and planning in a 17-minute video that Disney did with, for all intents and purposes LITERAL, unlimited power?
I really want to hear from cast members and actors who were apart of this and hear about their experiences. It's insanely expensive, but I also want to know what Disney's payroll looks like to make this all work.
It will come out
@@crazyralph6386unless they got forced by the mouse to sign NDAs 😂
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I mean as far as the cast members go, it's probably the same as the rest of the park. Disney pays $16 an hour for Cast members.
My daughter worked as part of the Disney college program and loved it. She told me that afterward when applying for a an opening their pay starts out at 16 an hour, which is not enough to afford living in Orlando by yourself. You'd need roommates or a second job because they also try to avoid overtime.
Oh no! Who could’ve seen this coming??
The fact that this isn’t sold out for the next 3 years tells you everything you need to know about it.
I moved to my new farm the week this opened…
And I find it hilarious that it took longer for me to unpack everything, than the hotel survived.😂🤦♀️
A Star Wars Kamino themed Hotel would have worked very well on a Cruise Ship, and may have justified a bigger price tag. However, 5k is beyond the pale, and nobody is going to pay that much for the ridiculous Cruiser/Hotel disney built with the sequel theme nobody wants, even if they can afford to stay there.
Disney's entire plan after buying Star Wars was to make Star Wars their own by remake it with the Sequel Trilogy. That is why the theme parks are based on the Sequel Trilogy because they don't care about the prequels or the originals.
And why its failing
Correction: KATHLEEN KENNEDY 'S entire plan...not Disney as a whole.
@@jaylcwho is left man? This shit so dead not even bones remain!
@@XxRumoALibertadores Jon Favreau and George's protege Dave Filoni.
@@XxRumoALibertadores where is your profile pic from?
The pricing is absolutely what killed this. Locking things down to the sequel's definitely hurt it as well but I feel like most fans regardless of their preferred trilogy would've checked it out at least once if it was at a reasonable price.
I wouldn’t visit a sequel trilogy hotel even if it was free and I just had to take time off work to go and pay for travel. That ain’t worth it at all!
To be honest at least try to fix it to original trilogy (I prefer prequel personally) and lower the price by more than half then I might consider going there
Sorry, nope ... even for 5 dollars a night I wouldn't have gone to a sequels themed hotel.
Don't think I would have gone for 5k to an OG trilogy either, just cause it's too much money, but at least they would have had me thinking how much I would like to go. And at the right price I would have gone for sure. But I wouldn't have gone to nothing sequels related, unless ... they would have paid me 5k to just go, sleep there, and then go and pay the 5k on the one I really like.
Generally, I do agree with you since if you make something cheap enough you'll obviously get more people. You'll just have the die hards like myself who wouldn't go even if it was free just on the matter of what Disney did to the Skywalker Saga.
@@austinbevis4266 c'mon now if you got a free room and a free food pass youd go 😂
I think Disney's biggest mistake with this specific business venture was making the assumption that any demographic old enough to have that kind of money to burn would want to spend it on a sequel trilogy experience at all. Then they also assumed parents with money would just take their kids there when a cheaper Harry Potter experience is right next door to them. Like honestly, I'd really love to know who in their marketing team ever thought this would ever lift off the ground, it's priced at a 5 star hotel level experience while being a theme park for a child focused universe.
Become a Sith on Mustafar (or on the Death Star), a Jedi on Coruscant (or on Dagobah w/ Yoda), a Mandalorian on Mandalore (maybe you could even duel to win the Darksaber).
Other possible things:
- You could jump in Luke's X-Wing and try to destroy the Death Star
- Pod racing on Tatooine
- Hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise
5000$ per night???? For that money I’m expecting a real lightsaber
3 reason I don't go. 1. It's about the sequels. 2. I don't have 5000 dollars. 3. If I had enough money to stay at 5000 a night hotels I'm just going to have a millennium Falcon built in my back yard instead.
For that money, Daisy Ridley better be waiting in my room.
It’s $6000 for 2 nights for 4. $4800 for 2 ppl. Still garbage none the less
5k is a whole saberstaff
@@rector0455I want Watto
Imagine having like a theme for your suite. You can choose any era. There’s a wall sized screen as a “window” and for whatever temperature you have the thermostat set to, it’ll go to a corresponding planet (I.e. prequel trilogy goes to Mygeeto if it’s cold, Felucia if it’s hot) and you can set it to randomly select a hot/cold planet from that era. As the fan kicks on, the screen shows you taking off and jumping to hyperspace. Maybe it lands you near a battle and you hear some ambient battle sounds in the background, or just the sounds of the local fauna.
Congratulations, you've just won the award for "Last one to the party". This is old news now, but thank you for playing.🎉
It should just be nicely themed rooms in a hotel. Cantina type bar/grill. Making it an interactive role play experience isolates a huge chunk of the fans that are not extroverted. It definitely should be OT and Prequel themed as well. Have activities for kids, but don't make it a mystery theater type of thing.
Exactly. I saw a vlog from it and the staff were telling guests that they pretty much have to interact with characters to have any sort of enjoyment. As an introvert myself, that sounds like hell🙃
anakin said the company has a lot to do to make the product available in a competitive marketplace that will allow the companies and the consumers who buy the products that are sold in a market where the products come in
If it were prequel trilogy it could have been a Jedi temple themed. 6000 dollars dollars is too much to ask for.
Disney is allergic to the prequels unfortunately due to the dumb prequel haters
@@Irken_Invader_Zim the prequels still have lore associated with it that works for other fans.
Disney stopped trying with the prequels because they rereleased Episode 1 and it did poorly
Or the cloning facility on Kamino! They could run clone training with Cody & Rex and mandalorian training with Jango & Boba in parallel.
Alternatively, they could have a jedi training experience with Yoda, who would later bring the people to Dagobah for advanced training. It would satisfy fans of both trilogies. Maybe even have Luke take them to Ahch-To afterwards.
Disney really should focus on satisfying ALL fans with these super-expensive projects. Limiting it to one trilogy will make the rich super-fans who grew up with another trilogy second-guess.
@@ryanshinermusic Episode 1 3D was launched in theatres before the Disney purchase, and it was at a time when 3D re-releases were pretty much dying. That's not particularly indicative of fandom size.
A anakin role play room or VR when your anakin and going off on younglings
I originally told my friend that the Hotel's "lightsaber training" should've been a dojo style 30-60 minute lesson on lightsaber training
A "master" explaining the meaning of Lightsaber color, forms, and letting attendants to spar
Edit: I meant 30-60 minute long lesson
Dude I went to a local Star Wars meetup with my lightsaber and they literally showed me all these stances and full contact moves while I was there. Shit was so fun and it lasted like an hour including general geeking out about Star Wars.
It was $5k total for a week at WDW for my honeymoon. That included airfare, food, lodging, tickets to all the parks and money for souvenirs…better off going that route.
This is one of the most unshocking news I've heard
1:30 "ridiculous theme, ridiculous price" perfectly put
With how expensive they made it, I knew it was only a matter of time
I think there is also something to be said about creating an experience that isn't all about making tons of money upfront but instead focuses on developing new customers. What will make you more money long-term, creating a highly exclusive experience that only a select few can partake in or something priced to be more affordable? Sure, you may not make as much from the hotel, but over time you're creating lasting memories for fans and those who will be the next generation of fans who will go on to buy merchandise, share with their kids, etc.
What we wish Disney would do:
1. Jedi Temple Experience (Not one of the random temples, do Coruscant)
2. Sith Temple Experience (Star Wars version of a haunted house)
3. Galactic Senate Experience (Become a Senator in the Senate Chamber)
4. Rebel Alliance Base Experience (Yavin or Hoth)
5. Star Destroyer or Death Star Experience (Darth Vader's Executor)
6. Bounty Hunters Guild Experience (Navarro or something on Mandalore)
Create a hotel incorporating those 6 themes at realistic prices and it will generate insane amounts of cash and fandom hype. You don't have to build 'entire' structures, although that would be cool, but just elements to create the environment and proper atmosphere. Everyone would want to do it. Hotel problem solved.
Bro why do the beds look like the prison beds from Andor 💀
Dont step on the floor
"Life's greatest teacher failure is."-Yoda
I'd like a quasar lazar type holiday where you can stay in a rebel ship themed hotel then during day 1- fight your way to the star destroyer or death star ultimately, and stay in hotel areas themed like those areas. Like a choose your adventure RPG themed holiday but with lazer tag guns
I definitely agree about the whole theme park. I think it should have been divided by time periods. The first land would be the prequels. With three different areas/planets. Naboo, Coresuant, and Camino. Then the Original trilogy, with Tatooine, Death Star, Hoth. Lastly the sequel trilogy or what ever they do next. I would also use the shows as a transfer between trilogies. You could have the Two separate experiences as an option. The rebels/light or the empire/dark. Here I would barrow from The old republic. With Jedi/Sith, solders/bounty hunter, and smuggler/agent.
I also like what you said about the premium prices and suits, and the different themed hotels. Those are good ideas and should have been done from the beginning
This is a 10 on the f-around and find out scale!!!! Love the irony and glad to see it happen! Sorry about those innocent caught in the collateral damage! But until there is major failure, they won’t correct it!
This was my experience too. We didn’t stay at the Star Wars hotel, but we went to the outpost. Pay walls everywhere, essence of Star Wars that just doesn’t feel organized or well planned. They just cranked out a sequel trilogy park to crank it out.
It was never going to succeed unfortunately with a price tag like that. With that same amount spent on the weekend you can stay at a better hotel at Disney for a week plus going to the parks every day. It just wasn't worth it and honestly surprised it stayed open this long.
So that Vader immortal VR experience was called the void at Disney Springs Orlando and in downtown Disney, California. I was working for the company and was contracted through Disney from when it opened, and when it closed. I was a service technician there and worked on everything behind the scenes, how the operation works, and everything else in between. I have so many crazy stories about this cannon story that can no longer be experienced, and how easy it can be done in real life.
The simple fact that they have decided to close, instead of lowering the price, indicates the only interest of disney in this disaster
You do realize that a project like this/attraction like this HAS to be expensive. Its too big of a project for a niche market. And thats entirely the problem, its a 100million dollar project for a niche market.
didnt they lower it from 6 k to 5 k?
@@andrewvasquez7872 theoretically, they could've charged way less, 500/night and made profit from volume of customers. Though, it might take longer to make a return.
@@andrewvasquez7872 Star Wars is a niche market? You cant be serious. It's the largest most popular pop culture franchise in the history of the world.
@@djdmac2417 I think they mean the whole LARPing bit is niche. That would drive me nuts; I just wanna relax.
You hit the nail on the head. If it was OT or Prequels, I would pay that price. But let the dream go Theory... Sadly they will never accept that focusing on the sequels was even a factor.
Na the price is what the problem was, people love the sequels...but not everyone has that kinda money to spend.
Honestly, it should have been all trilogies. Even if it breaks the continuity, it would have had something for everyone. It's hard to justify such a trip for a family if the kids aren't into the OT or the parents aren't into the sequels.
They can't admit why they failed. They're convinced the sequels are the heart of Star Wars.
@@zxyatiywariii8 At this point they definitely know. There's a reason why they're mostly stuck before episode 7 with current TV projects. If it was after 7 (especially post-9), interest in them would be many times smaller.
There’s not one setting in the sequel trilogy that I find interesting. Jakku is another desert world, Luke’s planet looks like earth, maz’s planet looks like earth, the black girl stormtroopers planet looks like earth. It’s just not alien enough or technologically advanced looking enough for me to want to stay there. Give me coruscant, kamino, or the Death Star…
When they said star wars resort, I was hoping they would opt for a range of accomodations. Imagine 4 different areas with distinct themes. One is maybe an imperial base that looks exactly like you'd expect, one is like a bunch of individual villas themed like Tattooine-style homes and such, another themed like the Jedi Temple with the lightsaber emblem in polished metal everywhere intended as a middle of the road option, and maybe like a central tower or building themed as a luxurious Coruscant hotel or even Canto Bight resort and casino.
Ya know there was a play center before that was constructed as a small town filled with tiny buildings for kids to go to and pretend to hold a job of various trades to run a little community. Could do something like that for an area that can let you take on the various roles you mentioned(Jedi/sith temples, a guild, recruiting centers to be a rebel or imperial, etc) could even have a legit cantina with an animatronic band playing every now and then.
UPDATE: it’s Kidzania
Imagine how much money they “could” make if they had only expanded universe continuity and you had to fought off a Sith boarding party as a group event.
Whoever thought of 5k a night should be fired, shamed, and banned from ever making a business decision again.
Exactly, 5k for some generic sci fi crap? Get outta here with that shit
Literally, these people are so out of touch with reality, like they literally are ignorant to the fact that the average person could never afford to spend that PER NIGHT, that tells you all you need to know, $5000 to them is literally change
Don’t worry Disney already got rid of Chapek now Iger is back to fix his mess
Ironically, I'm reminded of booster terrick's star destroyer turned casino resort and smuggling den by your description.
What was so difficult?
Make a hotel, design and craft star wars decor. Stormtroopers statues, imp officer staff dress.
Main foyer for arrivals looks like space port. Off foyer are Transition rooms, mini cinema/ride which 'transitions' you to your planet of choice (brief flight experience) - Kasshyk, Kamino, Star Destroyer/Imp Station, Coruscant. Room themes.
Have another Transition when leaving hotel and outside can be mixture of environments, Tatooine, Kashyk etc.
Transition rooms could double as Cinema or communal TV rooms when not being used.
The only 'excess expense' in all of this is Transition rooms, which is why I suggest making them multi-use and prevent it pricing it out of the vast majority of your audience.
There was nothing in the hotel which justified the price tag. Felt like they were trying to pay for the investment in first year.
Sequel themed! 🤣"Good...I can feel your anger."
That’s what happens when you charge $6000…
Hang in there brother. You are voicing the concerns for a lot of fans in this frustrating time in the fandom and it's appreciated.
He's honestly being too polite. I was giggling so much reading this report and I would have SO many choice words to say while making a video like this. XD
@@justalpha9138 Oh, trust me I hear you on that. But I believe he is trying to use his platform to try to effect some positive changes in the franchise. Unfortunately, papa RUclips won't let him say what we all are thinking.
The temple/guild is great idea. Especially if cosplay/roleplay comes in and a costume shop sells everything Star Wars related needed.
Very important: props in every price category/quality. From $20 china costume to $2000 Mandalorian armor which includes visiting the disneyland-tailor team backstage to get it right.
They really shouldn't have charged a kidney for it
A Bounty Hunter's guild would be cool. They could participate in minigames/arcade games in the suite and earn enough "Credits" to get upgrades for their experience such as a free desert or the kids could purchase "beskar" for their "armor". And maybe the suite experience could end with their bounty hunter career "retiring" and if they were ever to return their leftover credits could be maintained etc, incentivising the diehard disney goers to make repeat trips to get the "full experience"
6:21 You had me at "Maybe Anakin comes in..." lmaooo
"Some blue shrimp."... "Ok, so they just made some shrimp blue." 😂😂😂
The Prequels are my favorite era of Star Wars
For $5000 per night, you should be able to pick which trilogy you want your custom experience based on... THAT would be "the most inclusive experience possible."
And yeah, I know this idea is a logistical impossibility... But so is the entire business model for a Star Wars hotel charging $5000 per night so...
Though I haven't been, they did apparently have a rebel side and a empire side that would change the quests you do, and there is a hologram of Yoda on the rebel missions at one point. Also it's $5,000 for 2 nights BUT it's still way too expensive for what wasn't a proper Star Wars themed hotel and definitely in the wrong trilogy area
Why not make a Mos Eisley style Inn with a restaurant themed like the cantina? Complete with an in-costume band playing all the jams from the movies?
This way you don’t have to stick with this idea of locking people in a box with no way out. It allows people to visit other parts of the park as well as staying at the inn.
Along with these good ideas, can we also say any outdoor experience takes place on a subtropical planet with only a single star? Makes being outside in Florida more immersive.
They should have made a huge hotel with different wings. Like one a Star Wars wing and another, a Disney princess wing.
And remember, it doesn't even come with admission to the whole park.
Went to Legoland in California many years ago. They had good package deals for the parks with buffet breakfast. The suites were different themes. They had multiple activities throughout the evening. One of the really neat things was a “scavenger” hunt to figure out the combination to a safe in the room that had a small Lego kit in it. I do not know what the Disney package included. The passes for the park are quite expensive per person per day. This would obviously be a factor of the price. What is the cost for a few nights at other Disney resorts? What is included in the package?
Some people love the prequel trilogy and some people don't. Some people love the sequel trilogy and most, sorry, some people don't. What unites everyone is the original trilogy. If Disney chose to make this about Bespin during the events of the Empire Strikes Back they would make all of the money.
Honestly, I don't think different settings or story lines would have made a significant difference. I think the biggest problem (besides the price) is that everyone always says that they want these "immersive experiences" because they want to be the kind of outgoing people that enjoy immersive experiences, but when it comes down to it, most people would prefer to be entertained rather than be a part of the entertainment. Personally, being pulled out of the crowd and asked to participate in something like that, does not sound enjoyable at all. The concept of a role playing experience itself (regardless of how well it is executed) creates such a big risk of spending all that money to have an awful time if it turns out you are not that kind of person. It is one thing to imagine you are a rebel pilot while doing something like fighting a battle in an x-wing simulator for 10 minutes, but something entirely different to feel compelled to act like a Star Wars character for nearly 48 hours. So you are already taking something that would by nature only appeal to a small audience and making that audience even smaller because of the price. Unfortunately, the labor required to run an operation like that probably makes better pricing virtually impossible.
Theory even said he knows someone who isn't a fan of the OT.
Just add something from each, it's not that hard to cater to all fans
They shot themselves in the foot with that one 100%
The stuff that you say about what either a park or hotel could be like for star wars even if your not a fan can be awesome
I just went last week, solo on a week long cruise to the Caribbean for $1800!!!! $5,000 per couple, for 2 days is just nuts.
Another victory against the evil Disney!
I truly believe the broker Disney gets, the more they’ll be forced to make quality content. If not, they’ll go broke and someone else will come along and make us good content.
@@austinbevis4266 We already do have that. The fan community has been giving us better content for years now.
@@Aikurisu not feature length content though. Not even tv show episode length content
The weird thing is I mentioned this for an assignment for my Uni course. The assignment was to make a presentation about Disneyland (one of the sub-categories was theme parks), so I decided to do it about Galaxies Edge and mentioned the Galactic Starcruiser and how expensive it and how it's not really a hotel but.... an experience. I just find it odd that I talked about it only for it to be set to be closed a few days after I completed that assignment.
As for the Galactic Starcruiser on it own.... I feel they messed up with it, too much money, especially for those outside of the US, like myself, and the era I feel doesn't really suit it as I'm presuming it's set between TLJ and TRoS and I just don't think that's a great time to set it as there seemed to be a lot of conflict in that time. Where as I believe it might have been better to set it either during the Clone Wars (sure, there was a war going on, but people seemed pretty chill about it) or the Reign of the Empire? That way, they could keep their little mini adventures where a Rebel Spy is sneaking around avoiding Stormtroopers. I don't know. The overall idea doesn't appeal to me, but I definitely think they could have done better.
I appreciate that Galaxies Edge tries to immerse you into the Star Wars experience. I had a great time on Batuu when I went last year. That being said, I would’ve loved to have different Star Wars time periods on Batuu. Imagine certain days, weeks, or months where Galaxies Edge took place during the Original Trilogy or Prequel Trilogy. Also, I don’t know if it is asking a lot, but I wish I would’ve seen some iconic Star Wars aliens around Galaxies Edge too. Maybe have just a few cast members briefly walk around Batuu as a Rodian or Duros (I understand a costume like that could get hot, but look at Kylo Ren’s costume they have walking around). I don’t know much about this hotel, but I do know it’s extremely over-priced. The space cruise ship vibe is cool, but they should be all encompassing for all of Star Wars. Again have different time periods of Star Wars every now and again. Other than that, your guild ideas are awesome, albeit maybe needs more refinement.
Awe, I’m sad. No more Star Wars Galactic Prison Stays
The thing that ruined this the most was the price. 98% of people can’t afford a $4,000+ two night hotel stay and those who can won’t be going multiple times. That $4,000+ can be spent so many better ways. It’s a gigantic waste of time and money.
Dude I can get some cool shit done to my car or house for $5,000 and I’ll be able to enjoy it for years
My bf kept circling back on going and my response was always, 'we can go to Europe for 2+ weeks for that kind of money!' I flat out refused to pay that. For 2 days, especially when they don't even discount the park entry for APs.
disregarding the gargantuan cost of staying at the hotel, you could not possibly, and by possibly i mean; by every single calculation in all scientific reality known to man, create a fully immersive SW experience, by having one section of the guests go all in on (absurdly expensive/out of stock) costumes, immersion, and general geekery, while the other section was dripping with Disney merchandise (on hotel grounds) and pampered A++ hotel mentality, ready with their smartphones to capture every scripted moment in this funtime romp fanfare.
Maybe if Disney pumped aerosolized LSD/Marijuana throughout the hotel people would create their own realities which would be immersive enough for them. 🤣
@@necessity1 Plot twist, they were already doing that but the experience was THAT bad. =P
Arcade room, desert aesthetic on the wallpaper and carpet. You go in and it's one of those arcade racing games, but it's a Star wars pod racing game. The room's game is connected to the other guests so you're racing against other players, and the room is available at set schedules for maximum turn out for the day/night.
Daycare event but instead of just a younglin thing. A big brother, guardian to look after a child in a one on one adventure to spend time together. Your companion is dressed up as Mando and he takes the kid around throughout the hotel (They'll have credentials so you know it's not some kidnapper), and this gives parents the time to do stuff in like the Cantina aka Bar.
I wonder if an actual Disney Star Wars cruise line would be a better experience, for still way less than 5k but whatever a normal luxury cruise would be. Still get to participate in any actual storylines and a great way to immerse the people in it as they kind of have to being at sea for days on end lol. Separating the rooms people that want to do rebel/Jedi/resistance on one half of the ship and the dark side on the other but most of it being interactable for story lines and maybe one designated area for confrontations. And they could change each full trip for a designated era or depending on size of the ship have two eras at the same time.
You can have multiple stories like you were saying, and have some stuff interchangeable, as you make adventures rotate. Sith, Jedi, Mandalorian, Stormtrooper Academy, Rebel Academy, Clone Academy, etc.
I think the concept is super awesome, I’d love to live there. I’ve always wanted to have a Star Wars themed house/room, BUT yikes… the price is just far too much. For 5K I could literally just buy the stuff I need to build a Star Wars themed room that looks like similar to that lol.
If it were OT/PT themed, it would’ve rocked. But since KK and Disney would have to pay George, not in the cards.
Such good ideas. I wish we had those options now.
I was planning on going. However, when Disney released their pricing, I decided against it. Ridiculous.