The Likely Outcome Of The Russia X Ukraine Conflict | Joe Rogan & Mike Baker
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Mike Baker is a former CIA covert operations officer and current CEO of Portman Square Group, a global intelligence and security firm. He’s also the host of the popular "President’s Daily Brief" podcast: a twice daily news report on critical events happening around the globe available on all podcast platforms.
Host: Joe Rogan
Producer: Jamie Vernon
Episode: 2147
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Man, it's really depressing that Mike doesn't see through the bullshit and actually still thinks that this is a 'good vs evil' war.
Could it be he’s just a shill for the Deep State and is still CIA....🤔😂
Why would a propagandistic spy see through what his paycheck tells him to believe? 🤨
Fascists always believe they are on the good side. Why is this surprising from a literal spook?
Well the agressor is the evil side. Whoever attacks and thinks they can just take over someones country is the evil one.
Thats might have been okay 500 years ago, but not in todays world. The lines have been drawn and everybodys got their borders mapped out.
Lmao a country defending itself against an authoritarian invader is a “gray” war
Stop it Mike. Have a snickers.
Yeah, he's not him when he's hungry...
Yes Russian bot have some vodka
I only came here for the comments. 😂😂😂
Why does Joe keep having this guy on?
3 letter agency tells him to
The more I listen to Baker the more I’m convinced of the “Rogan’s Handler” conspiracy 👀
How would that make since if Mike is advocating for more funding to Ukraine and Rogan says the opposite?
100%
If this guys lips are moving... he's lying.
Most of things he said seem to be US government propaganda but he is correct about Russia needing a buffer zone. The same goes to China.
Weird thing to say. He sounded very credible
@@camwatters644 your sarcasm is strong, i almost didnt even catch it
@@camwatters644 Ex cia is credible?
@@tavish4699 I didn’t know he was ex c.I.a but ya of course they would be credible. They would be amongst the most knowledgeable on that subject…. Obviously.
CIA mouthpiece guy again awesome
How you would like to listen to FSB agent
You sad that is not FSB
i think ill have some potato vodka and put on an Adidas outfit.
Putin came to the table in the beginning. UK and USA said hit the road. Come on man.
I hate when people keep saying this. Yes, Putin started negotiating, but the terms were initially like this:
1. We get pretty much most of Ukraine
2. We will do whatever we want with this land
3. We will "definitely not" attack you immediatly again when possible
It's hilarious how people don't realize that Putin would just use this to re-build his army, and then hit the rest of Ukraine with full force. Of course they can't give in to his pathetic excuse of "peace terms".
They didn't because of the way that shitshow invasion started there was no point in negotiating as they were easy to push back in the first few months.
No he did not lol he has always had the same objective and that is to re unite the Soviet empire and its obvious
😂😂lol shure@@Anonymoustruth293
It's such a stupid argument. Yeah they came to the table when they were almost in Kiev and they wanted change of government and demilitarised Ukraine. You are so stupid that you would take it. Does that live next to Russia and actually know how they work understand that it will mean surrounding to Russia. Maybe give your country to Russia if you think it is such a great idea.
There’s no way Ukraine was ever winning this war. That’s crazy talk.
First war where we haven’t had legitimate reporters on the battlefield
there are some, from Poland, but u are right about American and English reporters
There is an insane amount of coverage and daily video footage, even first person imbedded footage with ukraine soldiers. Our news is certainly being quiet on it given the amount of media available but it does not fit their narrative or agenda. They want to talk about lgbtq for palestine and trump instead.
@@gorzkawodkano he's not lol
From the Russian side you mean
As opposed to what? All the previous wars where you'd have to sieve through an army of useless pricks with tweezers and a microscope just to be able to pick the one rare competent journalist?
its not about winning a war its about spending the money...
Americans thinking they are the good guys remains mind blowing
You're a Russia fan, eh?
@@theslowevo9303no I’m English and he’s right America and the west allowed and pushing for Ukraine to break the Minsk agreement wake-up instead of watching the propaganda western news
Thinking we're not is even more absurd , I know your just gas lighting tho
Edgelord take
Compared to the alternative, they are good.
Ukraine bots arriving in 3,2,1....
Ya called that shit lol😂
The Russian bots actually
Says the Russian bot
Glad to being one
This guy getting all his information from sky news
Mike's right about Russia wanting a buffer. ... but it's from nato not the eu
And they where at the table two months in... Ukraine walked away not Russia
70 pencent of nato funds are from the USA and most nato bases are American base Russia doesn’t won’t USA base on it boarders
Coming to table is one thing. Coming to table with reasonable terms is another.
They are the same
Putins trying to bring back all the Soviet countries into Russian borders and its obvious , has nothing to do with nato
Thanks to Johnson and Biden. Blocked agreement between Ukraine and Russia before hundreds of thousands of deaths
It's going to be whoever runs out of money first will lose. Cuz even if u don't have soldiers u can just recruit them from other poor countries and pay them
That's true.
Russia is recruiting people out of Africa now. And France's Foreign Legion is essentially doing the same on behalf of Ukraine.
He never retired
Once a company man, always a company man.
@@timlindberg9393 like the Mafia, you never actually leave the CIA.
Nice
Listen why are we even arguing about sending any money to anybody why are we as America concerned about sending any money to anybody other than to Americans
What a clown.
You are talking to the mirror again
Rogan tries so hard not to sound stupid.
In a war of attrition the artillery ammunition differential indicates on which side more soldiers are dying - and Russia has been using almost ever since at least 5 times as many shells. Lately 10 - 20 times (cause the collective west ran out of them).
Statistics, shmatistics - one can do enough math...
(to see that on the average probably at least 4 times as many Ukkie soldiers have died in comparison to the Russian ones)...
Then why they are still fighting for destroyed villages. With your math they should be in Kiev
@@piotrsie5465
No. They shouldn't. It's not "my math". These are facts in a war of attrition - as long as Ukraine still can generate "some" substantial reserves, and be it merely with another multibillion dollar package Russia won't make much progress - ground-gain-wise. That's how a war of attrition is defined: "Hold your ground and grind them and their foreign stimulus package down - to the last Ukrainian and down to the last dollar"...
@@Torrriate lol. Ruski spend 30% of their GDP on there military. You don't take to account that their equipment is not that precise like the West one and they need to use much more resources for same effect. Instead targeting objects they targeting area. That is why you have does moon like fields. Plus they are attacking now. They have much bigger losses than Ukraine. If not that counter offensive in the summer Ukraine would be in much better place. Russians had already 3 major mobilisations. They are using ammo from N.Korea that you pray it will go forward but when it will lend its a guess everytime although you can have same settings everytime. If West would not fk around with delivery of ammo and equipment things would look much better. Russia is eating through all their tanks that they had saved up. One year more and there will be non left and T 14 Armata that they were hoping to produce is dead
@@Torrriate if russians would kill 4x more than they loosing there would not move front lines for several km in 2 years. Most that they have is shit they took in first 2 months in the south
@@piotrsie5465
Yeah. That's what they all said a year ago. Heck two years ago.
"It was just 2 minutes 3 minutes ago..."
Sure thing!
Regardless, you can't substantiate these estimates and figures with any major principle that would be a strong indicator, other that Russia is probably losing more than they used to for most of the war, since they're charging a larger offensive now (I'll give you that). But if they'll lose more in total during that offensive than effed up Ukraine will at this point during the defense, is more than doubtful.
Besides - you can't pin-point a mass-barage of shells. That's not how artillery works. And if them Asov-Ukkies are hiding in every last room of a former babushka's house like rats, smoking them out will naturally leave her garden and backyard look like a crater field.
You're right the Russian's are using rather cheap means of warfare - en masse.
But meanwhile you can read in some renowned American Anti-Russian bulletins, that this tactics pays off, and that even the current aid package, if it had come much earlier, would have had only delayed the unevitable (the victory of the RF) and the US needs to restructure super-fast and massively its weapons manufacturing in regards to its supply of Ukraine in order to leave it a slither of hope to turn this shit around still...While other analysts say that Ukraine won't even win then, cause you can't compensate for the count of KIAed Ukrainian soldiers, being in total multiple times higher than the one of the Russian army. To me that picture is coherent and makes absolute sense.
Georgian law to require foreign agents to register is the same type of law with the US
That guy sounds completely full of shit...
Afaik no one talked of getting Georgia into the EU, ever (it's an Asiatic country by the way, not European, what would we do, a train through the Black Sea?)
I've been seeing articles that regular American men with skills would be better off in Russia that the woke USA. I fear for this nation the way it's going.
what 💀 russia has the highest std rates in the world. its not the white man heaven u think it is lol, more muslims then christians
Lmfao then go. You first!
Yeah, go move there. Have fun.
@@BBBBBBBBBBBXyou haven’t even been there wtf do you know?😂
@@glenmcdonald3548you haven’t been there either pipe down.
Mike you speak talking points so well, next time try history
What history. You watched Carlson with putler and you think you know history of the region?
Lol. Of course you have Tucker in subs. What a potato. Tell me how Poland didn't want to give up their land and provoke Hitler.
He needs to study history.
Which history? The one that pootler was telling Carlson lol.
You have fake account
You need to study history.
@@Strusprawa it's a russian bot account. No subscription, only one comment, never responding and catching likes from other bots
Vladimir Putin actually had a very comprehensive understanding of history, while this Mike guy has been groomed his entire life to tell lies at the behest of the deep state.
Hold on, if you don't think they'll win, why did you arm Ukraine instead of getting them to negotiate?
To negotiate what? It's like telling Jews to negotiate with Hitler
Because the goal has always been to weaken and divide Russia. Ukraine and Ukrainians don't matter to them.
Guys stop bullying Mike, he has clearly lost his mind. Go on Mike, talk some more.
Mike Baker said Russia would initially take Ukraine in 2 weeks. How did that play out?
Nobody expected Ukraine to hold out for this long
the jazz in the end is banging
Joe has been gifted such a huge platform and he wastes it on this dude.
How is a foreign agent bill a Russian thing? The Western countries have foreign agent bills too. Heck, the US is banning TikTok.
Finally someone talking sense. Ukraine won't win, Russia won't win. There needs to be a middle ground.
This guy is a triggered lib
Lol. Every time this guy is on Roganites Luke what he says or claim he's intentionally lying cuz he's Cia except the one time he says something that sl8ghrly makes Russia not the good guy. I swear half of rogans viewers must be russian lol
Mike thinks nobody gets what he is doing here. 😆 😂 😆.
American people are finally seeing what's going on. Usa helping people be more free ,fine. That's not what we were doing in the Ukraine. As an American it's hard to accept putins right on this one.
You are russian bot so what you know about American people.
Would America allow a Russian or Chinese military build up Mexico . . . Cuba
Began 2014 V Nulands Maidan coup
Right with what? Conquering a neighbour country?
First time see this guy named Mike, he talks bullshit.
First time see you commenting. You have IQ of drunk potato
This guy is so smart....I cannot believe it 🤣
Приветствую Вас - Враги мои. В эти часы мы подходим к Харькову. Мы освободим Украину, отмоем ее от следов Вашего грязного присутствия. Восстановим свои памятники, улицам вернем их настоящие имена. Вы нас разбудили.
You ain't doing shit
As ridiculous as the propaganda has been from he West...........the fuck are you doing mate? You don't cerebrate this shite.You're not even remotely near the front now are you?
Russian Bot
Wake up Sasha. You drunk again and you shit yourself
@@eighty88eight are you on front or you just urra on Internet
Obviously ukraine lost, our cia started this war
No potato. You don't need CIA agent to tell you that EU is better than being under russian boot. Same like you don't need CIA to tell you that Mercedes-Benz is better than Lada. Maybe you need someone to tell you that but it proves you are very slow
You are russian bot
This guest is absolutely clueless.
For informative purposes checkout yuri bezmenov interviews and lectures in the 1980's
The Duran, Redacted, the new atlas, colonel Douglas McGregor also Scott Ritter and military summary channel,
Truly the worst guest.
Unfortunately, Zelenski is into meet grinding strategy, approx 500,000 Ukranian men died in 27 months, this is almost an average of 20,000 Ukranian men died each month.
If that is true then why russians are still in some destroyed villages and not in Kiev? 0,5 dead means 1,5mln injured and your russian army is still struggling. Stop drinking Sasha
Your account is fake you russian bot
Holly shit with all russian bots in comment section
So now he promotes NATO's troops out there
No he said what French president said.
Joe Rogan is getting a bit 'dis-info' ish lately..🤷♂️ a good portion of his viewers can debunk a lot of his guests..unreliable these days..
Ok give examples then rather than a blank statement. lol
@@Me-ed8po This guy and that lady talking about Bible!
Shes still mad about Tucker@Me-ed8po
@@Me-ed8po Graham Norton who's pretty much complete hack and a fraud, this prick Mike Baker. Tucker Carlson who has some decent views ont he wars but was utterly embarrassing himself when it came to biology/evolution, science and history. Then convicted felon who gave everyone the creeps immediately who then turned out to have killed someone a month after his performance on JRE.
Why is this man on,why show a C.I.A. agend or that tipe of shit.
Very poor presentation - it wasn't worth the time listening to him.
I wish he would stop talking to this guy
Long live the leader of the free world, President Vladimir Putin of courageous Russia!!
Now wash yourself because you shit your bed again
But its ok because Joe Biden's family and others can get rich
Listening to an american who has absolutely no idea what he's talking about is always hilarious.
Said russian bot. Atleast make account with some subscriptions and not only one comment
this video should be called "Here's CIA's opinion"
Joe likes this guy unfortunately he’s not very informed
Chasing kids is normal in France.
Mike is misinformed
Just like at the beginning of the movie Enemy At The Gates just throwing bodies at it.
What about minsk
What about it? What about Budapest
i have been watching youtube for 10+ yrs now and i havent seen a bigger BSer than this guy.. or maybe thats the agency new strategy... if so than lol!
Putin has been open for a settlement since the beginning 😅
I'm open for settlement as well. I want your trailer and everything you got. Why you don't accept
They both have no idea whats going on :DDD
About time something new came out. Love the JRE stuff, but for a long time the "new" stuff has just been excerpts of older issues. Great stuff and Baker is obviously a very interesting guy.
You are just dumb
Go away bot
Nobody thinks Baker is a very interesting guy
Defund Ukraine
Brain worm 🪱 2024
This guy is either completely uninformed or just a shill.
Said drunk ruskie
holy shit how can i have that time back smfh
The guys who got owned by the taliban taking shit about beating Putin lol
I know you forgot that russian drunks were send home buy Talibans and Russians had more losses than USA while being there for 20 years.
Lol russia already won.. this cia goof is a joke 😂😂😂
Then why they are not in Kiev?
I hear that already for 2 years now
@@piotrsie5465they’ll be in Helsinki soon
@@chocolatepudding6146 lol
As if you’d go to war. Bugger that. I wouldn’t go.
GOD BLESS PUTIN..
It is not surprising that your mother is your dad cousin
Joey…. Damn! Just damn.
Vaccin and Ukraine?
Ratlines and the Catholic Church go way back 🤷♂️
Yeah and flat earth. Now go back to hospital you run away from
This dude talks, talks and -0-
Ukraine = 5 year old child
Russia = Mike Tyson
Who’s going to win?🤔
So why could mike tyson not get Kiew?
@@praesodym6117 there was an agreement over this but pshhh dont tell anyone, its a secret. You 🤡
Russian Bot Party here :)
Poland is next
The more ground you give to Putin the more he will take.
Baker is a CLOWN SHOW..
Your mom has a lot of fun in gulags
Mike is right as usual
Alot of Russian bots commenting here haha
Russian bots arriving in 3,2,1....
When you wrong you wrong lol
Good, then they can argue with the NATO/Ukraine bots that already populate the comment sections.🤣
@@willia3r There are no Ukraine bots just people with common sense
russian bots arriving in yo mama in 3,2,1
@@nomad789 Sure there are only entire government sponsored shill farms in Ukraine lmao
Slava Ukraini!
They will lose. I'm 100% behind Russia.
@@alienprepper5918 you'd pull for Hitler too during ww2 probably
Ukraine WILL WIN!!
🤡🌎
What's the average age of a Ukrainian soldier? From what I've seen the new conscripts are around 45.
😂😂😂