idk why y'all doubted him like he was some college kids fresh out Duke. He's been playing pro ball against grown men for years now in a league where you can actually play defense.
The physicality part of the game is not effecting him because he doesn't play in the post...he slashes through the paint, but he's not rooted down there because he can shoot, dribble and defend on the wing...SO ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPARE HIM TO AN AVERAGE BIG MAN BECAUSE HE HAS THE SKILLSET OF A GUARD AND/OR SMALL FORWARD. Wimby has everything except "back to the basket" game...so he's more like a KD type of player than he is like Tim Duncan or David Robinson. HOW DO YOU DEFEND A 7'4" GUY WHO DRIBBLES AND SHOOTS LIKE KD, WHILE DEFENDING LIKE GIANNIS ? ...NOBODY HAS SEEN THIS BEFORE🤔
VW is basically a very skilled small forward but he's 7'4" where most of those guys are around 6'6"-6'8". His skillset is kind of similar to KD's but he's 5-6 inches taller. It's going to be an amazing season watching what he does. There's really never been anybody like him in the NBA other than maybe Ralph Sampson who didn't have this kind of skillset.
Love Wemby's attitude. His head seems to be on right. Maturity beyond his years for sure. Skill and genetically gifted for the game. Can we let him be new though? The conjecture gets exhausting and ridiculous after a while. Jokic is still the best big in the game. By far. With these past few seasons he has put his stamp on the invite to the all time greats conversation. Posting a triple double season opening win against the Lakers with shockingly typical efficiency. Hot off a finals MVP and NBA championship win. Bring Denver it's first ever trophy. He ate every last big he faced in that run. Two regular season MVP's in his back pocket. Arguably he should/could have gotten his third regular season MVP and in a row no less. Not one team has an answer for him. Don't see any reason to believe that has changed. He is now truly into his legacy era. So curious to see where he ends up.
@@OhsoCarolina Giannas is also a great player. Love his game as well. He is great for the game of basketball. Are you asking me to quote readily available stats and advanced stats?
Good on Paul to change his opinion. Most people when given an opportunity to change their opinion about someone, especially in regards to sports, never take that chance and double down on their previous statement while looking foolish. Wemby looks like what people projected a monstrous tall NBA center could do, just dominating. Yao Ming looked uncomfortable and unathletic for his size while Victor looks completely natural. He's going to be a problem for the unforeseeable future and it's going to have a lot of ripple effects.
It's because in the age of social media, where anyone's opinion is timestamped and archived, people forgot one crucial thing: opinions change. People never stop evolving. Viewpoints can change in the course of one day or one year. Social media reinforced a false belief that one's opinion is set in stone forever, or else they be hypocrites. And people got afraid of changing or correcting their opinions because they fear online blowback, of which I think is crazy. So they double down as you said. And look foolish while feeling like shit inside. People should feel free to change any of their opinions without fearing the little crazy people online. After all, they're opinions and not facts.
Orlando magic shaq was just as skilled as lakers shaq. Y’all are getting skilled confused with an offensive bag. As a big man, Shaw’s footwork was guard like. That’s why he was so successful in combination with his strength. Magic Shaq was running breaks too.
True Shaq was unstoppable offensively. But Shaq cannot guard a Steph curry. For every 2 points he makes, he gives up 3 points. Wemby though is so mobile he can guard a wing.
People’s evaluation of Wendy really proved if people do their draft evals based more on current skill level or potential. Victor is SKILLED. He’s not “oh he could be good if we polish him up” he’s already polished. He plays and thinks like someone who knows the game and not just playing off natural talent and instinct. I never watched a full game of dude but it was clear to tell he’s already the most skilled true big (at that age) since KG. Post game, brings the ball up the court, the stepbacks, his motor on defense. A true complete player at such a young age bro is about to shit on the league. I give it until next year. After that, spurs won’t miss playoffs again until he retires.
Bruh I’m sorry but dude is gonna be riddled with injuries by his 2nd or 3rd year. He’s simply too tall and for the moves he makes and how he plays, it’s scary to watch. Like a ticking time bomb.
Kobe wouldve loved Wemby. RIP Kobe. Wemby is the most skilled Big in the league already imo (Banchero is a close second but Wemby is just different; crazy high hoops IQ already; I think they are Finals contenders ALREADY, that's how nice Wemby is). It's nice seeing guys evaluate SKILL rather than slurp overrated Bron and his bulldozing layups (his only real move). SKILL is back baby! And i genuinely believe anybody who takes prime Lebron over prime Kobe has a mediocre hoops IQ, but that's just my opinion. I digress. This is the WORST Wemby will ever be. He will only get better. And if Kg, would was also slender (and who people said would need to bulk up to survive in the league - he didn't) as a teen could survive, I think Wemby will be just fine because these injury concerns are insanely overblown. He's been playing in PROFESSIONAL European leagues where the refs allow way more contact without bailing out stars with cheap fouls (e.g. 30% of Bron's free throw attempts are "ghost" fouls) so the physicality is nothing to him. He proved to be VERY durable in the French league and so why should we worry about his durability in the MUCH SOFTER NBA (this isnt the NBA from 1960 - 2010 when the league ALLOWED physical play, from 2011 onward the league consciously softened up the league after an "ugly" finals in 2009/2010 Laker - Boston series, which was very defensive and very physical). People have SHORT memories. Go read the scouting reports on Durant. People back then said Durant was too skinny to avoid injuries in the "grown man's NBA" and, achilles aside, he's been mostly healthy in his career. Wemby is GOAT potential. I say he finishes top 5 when it's all said and done. 1. MJ 2. Kobe 3. Wilt 4. Hakeem 5. Wilt/Russell If he wins a ring before year 4, I say he ends up #1 ALL TIME. He's THAT special. And he will eventually develop a back to the basket game to preserver his legs - it's the most energy efficient way to play the game. It reduces the amount of plays you have to waste sprinting to create space. A post game is something OLDER players use to negate a defenders athleticism. Once Wemby develops a back to the basket game (which he doesnt need right now but can easily develop given how ridiculous his proprioception is in other areas of basketball).
I love how within the first 20 seconds of the video, the title is addressed right away. Straight to the point, no nonsense. For that, I will subscribe.
Rookie Shaq vs. rookie Wemby is not a fair comparison. Shaq was a 21-year old rookie. Wemby's 19. Two years at that early stage of a career makes a tremendous difference with experience, development and the ability to put on weight and get stronger.
Yet, now that we've hit two-thirds of the season, Wemby is definitely in that realm/conversation of some of the best Rookie seasons we've ever seen. Especially adjusted to age and minutes played, and even adjusted to pace.
The Shaq versus Wemby as a rookie question should be under the basis of which team has a better chance of winning, not if Wemby could defend Shaq on the block. I saw a fair few problems in Wemby's game around deferring decisions at critical moments, but yeah, I'd maybe pick Wemby on that question.
Every euro player says that, Luka did too. The NBA is a shell of what it used to be. Shit's barely enjoyable now watching refs rig the game or watching guys flop all the time and constantly carry the ball and jack up threes and scream after every dunk like they just won a championship... shit is boring
That is part true for sure. It's a good thing I seen them giving out techs last night, for players flopping in the Celtics & Knicks game. 🤣 The NBA has some freak athletes and some strong mfs. But they can't play how they want to play, with players flopping around and refs calling some ridiculous offensive fouls every game. And even without the players flopping to the floor, refs still call very interesting stuff veryy often (the past 5 or 10 years). I wish I could see someone like Zion actually play bully ball. New Orleans would probably be Top 5 team in the league if offensive fouls didn't go "that" way. It doesn't gotta be full on "Shaq mode" level of play. But closer to that, than what we see on the court today. Same goes for some of the touch fouls on defense, or when you body someone up who is driving against you, some are a bit ridiculous. Also, I would like to see Wemby talk about that same topic at the end of this season when he does play every team and goes through the 82 game grind for a better assessment of the NBA level.
He said it. Luka, Jokic, Giannis said it. It’s common knowledge for everyone who knows European Basketball and the NBA. NBA is more athletic, talented, cardio-intensive, and offensive. FIBA rules allow more contact, less fouls, less free throws, less space, not 3 second rule in the paint. It’s more defensive and team-oriented. The rules make NBA basketball less physical, and more of an entertaining spectacle of athleticism and talent. It goes fast, has dunks, open spaces, quick runs at the rim, longer games, more fouls to protect the player and make advertisement money.
The league is changing a lot of these young overseas players that have been playing pro since 16 years old are gonna be used to the nba very quick like Luka and wemby and even lamelo ball kinda
He was obviously very skilled. His size how he moves, how he spaces the floor at the five spot and you didn’t think he would be good. My only concern was health but when I saw his stretch’s and how flexible and agile he is for his size it’s gonna take something really bad to take him out. This is not a Anthony Davis situation.
And this is the difference between New Media vs Old Media. Old Media would’ve made a take & rode with it no matter what. New Media know when they’re wrong & knows how to take accountability and change their opinion if needed
There's no bonus points for being a jack of all trades. Don't act like Shaq in his rookie season didn't have more points, more rebounds, more blocks, more assists, and a higher FG% than Wemby so far in his rookie season. And it isn't even close. Dude put up 23 and 14 rebounds with 3.5 blocks. Bol Bol can do Kevin Durant type moves too. I wish Wemby well but he ain't close to Shaq convos yet.
If I remember, his brother switched to basketball not so long ago (2 years ?); He was playing handball before. So he can be gifted as well, but I don't think he will have the same basketball skillset/mindset as he wasn't "living for NBA" as a kid
Wemby just needs to be durable and have stamina for the nba pace and officiating because everything else is easy the internationals are running the show right now. Luka said it’s easier to score in the nba vs fiba.
did y'all watch wemby in france or just base your previous opinion on a couple summer league games? If you didn't watch him in France idk why ur giving takes about a player from so few games
He flexed on a fellow rookie who he has history with. He’s too legitimately intelligent (intellectually and emotionally) to act a fool. He’s not done dumb American kid who thinks all of this is owed to him. He’s an immigrant, Giannis/Luka/Jokic style. They didn’t start squawking until the lit up a few MF’ers for months in official league runs. Chet’s been on the court with him, taking sh*t, any any hooper would, for YEARS now. That flex has way more history than anything he could ever do with another baller who wasn’t one of his French teammates.
He can basically pick up the ball at a step inside the three point line , take two steps and dunk it. He did it the other night. If this dude stays healthy, then either san antonia, or whoever he goes to after is gonna win multiple championships in his second contract.
Wemby is definitely the most skilled big ever.. right now 1game in.. he's doing things thats never been done and he's a coordinated 7'4 alot of guys are 7'0 and up but none move with the fluidity he does and soon he'll be someone you dont want switching on you if you're a guard
@@supercoolguy466 yea and he doesn't have the ball skills wemby has the fluidity in his movement or the agility when moving around the court. Can jokic beat a wing off the dribble? Those are the things im thinking about when I made the statement
Wemby is the highlight right now even might not make the playoff or go far in it He will surprise in every of his game he is an offensive&defensive highlight Rethink that for a sec
There is one thing that kida "pissed me off". I know Wembanyama is out of the ordinary adn will be an extraordinary player, and I understand that coming after Lukamay be a reason but; I hate Luka got loads critics and "no" hype(compared to Wemby) when going to the Draft, despite being MVP both of ACB(Spanish league which is a STEP above the french league) and Euroleague (Wemby's team didnt even played at European level. I mean it was so obvious Luka was gonna be a superstar since Day 1 yet some how went down to No.3 and in a trade down .... Seems crazy to me
I wanna say Luka walked so Wemby could run. Luka proved that a youngster formed in Europe could absolutely EAT up players formed in American challenges. Victor's got that shock factor too because he's gigantic. (+ with hindsight everybody agrees Luka shoulda come in number 1)
@@nouvelarrivantYea, Shaq being solid as Rock and Strong as Hercules helps. No one was as Big and Athletic as Shaq. Dude was a Cannonball but he was also Skilled, so that is a Freak Combo.
I saw Steph had to work so hard on wemby to get a shot off. The amount of work required is not sustainable. Wemby will win his matchups bc he doesn't have to work as hard to create space for shooting.
Bruh if this was the 90’s players would of been like “we are going to kill him regardless of how good he is because he’s a rookie.” Y’all players are too damn soft
I get what he was saying about Shaq. Shaq may be the most dominant big in the history of the NBA but he didn't have the skillset Wemby has. His game was more one dimensional. Did it work for him at the highest level? Of course, but I just think what he was saying what being taken out of context.
Listen if my friend can't stop my 2 or 3 combos then I'mma keep spamming them. Shaq is Shaq lol, he was physically dominant so he didn't need to have a deep bag.
Get ready, Americans! France is about to dominate world basketball, and I'm not just talking about Wembi. The young players currently being trained at the INSEP are all incredible. In 4 or 5 years' time, you'll have 3 or 4 Wembi players in the NBA.
Ive been saying this for YEARS. INTERNATIONALS ARE COMING and they are going to TAKE THE NBA BY STORM. The Europeans and Africans, unlike Americans, actually takes EDUCATION, at ALL levels, in every sport, technical field, and academy subject, MUCH more seriously than Americans do. France and international players in general are going to take over the NBA just watch.
He good but Shaq would score 54 points and 15 rebounds and 3 blocks. Right now Wemby might have a game where he gets 50 points 20 rebounds and 8 blocks. He is heading in that direction. Glad I have NBA Season Ticket. I can watch his every game!
Heres the thing about shaq vs wemby. Shaq came in as the most physically dominate center and people would take him 10/10 times right now because we've seen shaqs career. But, if shaqs foot problems came earlier in his career, he wouldn't have been the great he is. Or if he team up with Kobe...and never won a chip. Legacies can change in a single moment (...just ask drose) Wemby is the most unique player we've ever seen because we don't know what his potential is. At every other position we know the potential...we've seen the Mjs or the curry's, or the LeBrons or KDs now. We've seen the physical and athlete peak for every position...except for the center. We thought we saw it with players like KD, porzingis as tall unicorns, but weve never seen a big man like this before, and thats the unknown. If he can stay healthy, wemby may be the most game breaking player in history.
0:25 You guys still don’t get that the NBA is nowhere as strong as it used to be, whereas Euro Basketball has become much better The gap between the two is not as big as it used to be Don’t you wonder why all the best players in the league these last 10 years came from Europe? Wemby has no problem in the NBA cause he is used to play dudes who actually play defense, who put real physicality in the paint He is gonna crush that league you have no idea
All NBA players would be a hater unless they’re from France, it’s just competitiveness and ego. This whole process of hating to believing was inevitable the whole time like with Luka lmao
Once again NBA players have no clue what the European leagues are like, the level of play, the level of coaching, the level of strategy, the level of skill. You would think just the move called “the EURO step” might give them a clue. But no, narrow minded and ignorant.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! Ive been saying this for years, KOBE BRYANT, God rest his soul, was saying this ad nauseam before he died. Euro leagues are more PHYSICAL, the refs allow WAY more contact and do NOT call fouls (most of the time) for INCIDENTAL contact. Wemby has been HEALTHY in a more physical league and yet low iq hoops fans (I mean, of course they are low Iq, many of them think a PED-injecting, stat-padder like Lebron who feasts on trasitional layups/dunks and refs swallowing their whistles when he bulldozes his way to the rim - the beginning and end of his value on the court is getting to the rim - is really in the goat conversation when he has no business being in it) think he will get injured. They are questioning his durability in a less PHYSICAL league where stats are outrageously protected in ways that border on "rigging." Wemby will end up as the GOAT. Just watch. Durant is very skinny and 7 foot. He, Achilles injury aside, has been mostly healthy his whole career. Wemby has access to the latest in exercise physiology and exercise medicine and nutrition that past Big greats didn't have access to. The efficacy of platelet rich therapy, for instance, and Lebrons alleged use of EPO, for instance, show how valuable modern medicine is in injury prevention and recovery. Fears of him being overhyped were ALWAYS dumb if you actually watched him play in Europe. He was always going to be a STUD because, like MJ, Kobe, he has SKILL, not just athleticism. Some players are overrated (Lebron), some players are underrated (Wemby before the NBA season started). But in the end, the cream rises to the top.
that was already an apologie but comming 6 month later he has "flexed" on whole league everyone love him even draymond called him true DPOY lmao y'all should redo it i swear
He's more mobile than Dirk. I think he'll end up as some combo of Hakeem, KD, KG, KP, a modern Kareem and Ralph Sampson with his defensive and offensive impact.
@@jdankerdake brother I agree , I only thought of dirk because of his ability to put it on the floor but a Ralph Samson sized KG is a PERFECT comparison
idk why y'all doubted him like he was some college kids fresh out Duke. He's been playing pro ball against grown men for years now in a league where you can actually play defense.
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Must be a both that speak the truth
“Doubted” i don’t think anyone was doing that. People had “questions” about his game translating into the NBA because of his size.
Same shit for Dončić
People overrate the shit out of D1 ball. LNB Pro A is a grown man's league.
The physicality part of the game is not effecting him because he doesn't play in the post...he slashes through the paint, but he's not rooted down there because he can shoot, dribble and defend on the wing...SO ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPARE HIM TO AN AVERAGE BIG MAN BECAUSE HE HAS THE SKILLSET OF A GUARD AND/OR SMALL FORWARD. Wimby has everything except "back to the basket" game...so he's more like a KD type of player than he is like Tim Duncan or David Robinson. HOW DO YOU DEFEND A 7'4" GUY WHO DRIBBLES AND SHOOTS LIKE KD, WHILE DEFENDING LIKE GIANNIS ? ...NOBODY HAS SEEN THIS BEFORE🤔
Yup, he’s closer to being KD than Tim Duncan. Over time more ppl will realize it
The physicality isn’t affecting him because there is no physicality in the modern nba. He was born in the perfect time for his skill set.
he has that game
Players today are soft
@@LAvisionplayers today have stewpidafrows
VW is basically a very skilled small forward but he's 7'4" where most of those guys are around 6'6"-6'8". His skillset is kind of similar to KD's but he's 5-6 inches taller. It's going to be an amazing season watching what he does. There's really never been anybody like him in the NBA other than maybe Ralph Sampson who didn't have this kind of skillset.
That's exactly right. He's the modern Ralph Sampson.
Great description of him and his skill set. That's what I've been saying the whole time.
Yeah and ralph Samson stayed hurt. Wemby is very blessed that nba is soft or he would be up and out too
Shaq would destroy!!!!!!!!! That boy!!! Make him go home and quit!!
@@DANNYBLVCK Yeah that's the problem being that long and lanky. Sampson's career was basically 7 years. I hope VW can last longer than that.
Love Wemby's attitude. His head seems to be on right. Maturity beyond his years for sure. Skill and genetically gifted for the game. Can we let him be new though? The conjecture gets exhausting and ridiculous after a while.
Jokic is still the best big in the game. By far. With these past few seasons he has put his stamp on the invite to the all time greats conversation. Posting a triple double season opening win against the Lakers with shockingly typical efficiency. Hot off a finals MVP and NBA championship win. Bring Denver it's first ever trophy. He ate every last big he faced in that run. Two regular season MVP's in his back pocket. Arguably he should/could have gotten his third regular season MVP and in a row no less. Not one team has an answer for him. Don't see any reason to believe that has changed. He is now truly into his legacy era. So curious to see where he ends up.
What has he done that Giannis hasn't ?
Great comment, thanks for the thoughtful post.
Jokic is done for buddy. People will start realizing Embiid is better at everything except passing
@@flackaflacko4629 Embiid is a great player. I hope he does. It's good for the game. But statistically speaking Jokic is better at this point.
@@OhsoCarolina Giannas is also a great player. Love his game as well. He is great for the game of basketball. Are you asking me to quote readily available stats and advanced stats?
If Wemby gets on the Giannis fitness program it’s game over for the league in 2-3 years
Nah he don’t need to put on no 50 lbs of muscle, may effect his shooting, I’d say 15-20 more the most
@@TimDaGoofman he's ready cook the league
Yeah, because he'll be on the injury reports
"Giannis fitness program" means testosterone and EPO
@@PassFirstPostbe careful what you wish for bruh
Good on Paul to change his opinion. Most people when given an opportunity to change their opinion about someone, especially in regards to sports, never take that chance and double down on their previous statement while looking foolish. Wemby looks like what people projected a monstrous tall NBA center could do, just dominating. Yao Ming looked uncomfortable and unathletic for his size while Victor looks completely natural. He's going to be a problem for the unforeseeable future and it's going to have a lot of ripple effects.
In a soft era
Arenas?
It's because in the age of social media, where anyone's opinion is timestamped and archived, people forgot one crucial thing: opinions change. People never stop evolving. Viewpoints can change in the course of one day or one year.
Social media reinforced a false belief that one's opinion is set in stone forever, or else they be hypocrites. And people got afraid of changing or correcting their opinions because they fear online blowback, of which I think is crazy. So they double down as you said. And look foolish while feeling like shit inside.
People should feel free to change any of their opinions without fearing the little crazy people online. After all, they're opinions and not facts.
@@mikewilliams9069 what does this have to do with anything
@@novaismajin you people said lebron plays in a soft era so his accomplishments dont count therefore anything victor does doesn’t count either
He’s trying to say Wemby is more skilled than Shaq which is true, but there’s a list of bigs more skilled, Im still taking Shaq though.
Yeah Wemby, Chet and even Giannis want to be wings with Shaq everything was point blank plus intimidating
Wemby still have years to prove that.
Orlando magic shaq was just as skilled as lakers shaq. Y’all are getting skilled confused with an offensive bag. As a big man, Shaw’s footwork was guard like. That’s why he was so successful in combination with his strength. Magic Shaq was running breaks too.
@@HoopsRaccoonthank you. People forget how fast that mf was. Him and Kobe was the original lob city.
True Shaq was unstoppable offensively. But Shaq cannot guard a Steph curry. For every 2 points he makes, he gives up 3 points. Wemby though is so mobile he can guard a wing.
People’s evaluation of Wendy really proved if people do their draft evals based more on current skill level or potential. Victor is SKILLED. He’s not “oh he could be good if we polish him up” he’s already polished. He plays and thinks like someone who knows the game and not just playing off natural talent and instinct. I never watched a full game of dude but it was clear to tell he’s already the most skilled true big (at that age) since KG. Post game, brings the ball up the court, the stepbacks, his motor on defense. A true complete player at such a young age bro is about to shit on the league. I give it until next year. After that, spurs won’t miss playoffs again until he retires.
I'd argue Banchero is more skilled but agree with everything else
Bruh I’m sorry but dude is gonna be riddled with injuries by his 2nd or 3rd year. He’s simply too tall and for the moves he makes and how he plays, it’s scary to watch. Like a ticking time bomb.
@@AaronSoDope ngl I forgot about paolo when I wrote this lol Im taking Vic over him but I won’t argue with that at all
Kobe wouldve loved Wemby. RIP Kobe. Wemby is the most skilled Big in the league already imo (Banchero is a close second but Wemby is just different; crazy high hoops IQ already; I think they are Finals contenders ALREADY, that's how nice Wemby is). It's nice seeing guys evaluate SKILL rather than slurp overrated Bron and his bulldozing layups (his only real move). SKILL is back baby! And i genuinely believe anybody who takes prime Lebron over prime Kobe has a mediocre hoops IQ, but that's just my opinion. I digress.
This is the WORST Wemby will ever be. He will only get better. And if Kg, would was also slender (and who people said would need to bulk up to survive in the league - he didn't) as a teen could survive, I think Wemby will be just fine because these injury concerns are insanely overblown. He's been playing in PROFESSIONAL European leagues where the refs allow way more contact without bailing out stars with cheap fouls (e.g. 30% of Bron's free throw attempts are "ghost" fouls) so the physicality is nothing to him. He proved to be VERY durable in the French league and so why should we worry about his durability in the MUCH SOFTER NBA (this isnt the NBA from 1960 - 2010 when the league ALLOWED physical play, from 2011 onward the league consciously softened up the league after an "ugly" finals in 2009/2010 Laker - Boston series, which was very defensive and very physical).
People have SHORT memories. Go read the scouting reports on Durant. People back then said Durant was too skinny to avoid injuries in the "grown man's NBA" and, achilles aside, he's been mostly healthy in his career.
Wemby is GOAT potential. I say he finishes top 5 when it's all said and done.
1. MJ
2. Kobe
3. Wilt
4. Hakeem
5. Wilt/Russell
If he wins a ring before year 4, I say he ends up #1 ALL TIME.
He's THAT special. And he will eventually develop a back to the basket game to preserver his legs - it's the most energy efficient way to play the game. It reduces the amount of plays you have to waste sprinting to create space. A post game is something OLDER players use to negate a defenders athleticism.
Once Wemby develops a back to the basket game (which he doesnt need right now but can easily develop given how ridiculous his proprioception is in other areas of basketball).
I love how within the first 20 seconds of the video, the title is addressed right away. Straight to the point, no nonsense. For that, I will subscribe.
Rookie Shaq vs. rookie Wemby is not a fair comparison. Shaq was a 21-year old rookie. Wemby's 19. Two years at that early stage of a career makes a tremendous difference with experience, development and the ability to put on weight and get stronger.
Yet, now that we've hit two-thirds of the season, Wemby is definitely in that realm/conversation of some of the best Rookie seasons we've ever seen.
Especially adjusted to age and minutes played, and even adjusted to pace.
If anyone here watched Kuroko no Basuke, this kid is like Atsushi Murasakibara. His defensive coverage is craaaazy!
W reference
That’s him
Got me wanting to go back and rewatch it now
Combined with aomine
This why I’ll always have respect for Paul George he a real 1 for sure 💯
His parents prepared him well. He just needs to get stronger and use to the NBA game.
The Shaq versus Wemby as a rookie question should be under the basis of which team has a better chance of winning, not if Wemby could defend Shaq on the block. I saw a fair few problems in Wemby's game around deferring decisions at critical moments, but yeah, I'd maybe pick Wemby on that question.
Sorry penny and shaq vs wemby I’m going magic but wemby going to give them work
Stupid take
Paul George always taking back everything he says.
Rather that than stand on a dumb take
@@novaismajinfacts I would rather someone take back there take and adjust it when new info comes out then to stay on it knowing they wrong
glad yall back!!! you aint payin attention if you aint listenin to Podcast P!
Wemby already came out and said NBA is easier and less physical lol
Every euro player says that, Luka did too. The NBA is a shell of what it used to be. Shit's barely enjoyable now watching refs rig the game or watching guys flop all the time and constantly carry the ball and jack up threes and scream after every dunk like they just won a championship... shit is boring
That is part true for sure. It's a good thing I seen them giving out techs last night, for players flopping in the Celtics & Knicks game. 🤣 The NBA has some freak athletes and some strong mfs. But they can't play how they want to play, with players flopping around and refs calling some ridiculous offensive fouls every game. And even without the players flopping to the floor, refs still call very interesting stuff veryy often (the past 5 or 10 years). I wish I could see someone like Zion actually play bully ball. New Orleans would probably be Top 5 team in the league if offensive fouls didn't go "that" way. It doesn't gotta be full on "Shaq mode" level of play. But closer to that, than what we see on the court today. Same goes for some of the touch fouls on defense, or when you body someone up who is driving against you, some are a bit ridiculous. Also, I would like to see Wemby talk about that same topic at the end of this season when he does play every team and goes through the 82 game grind for a better assessment of the NBA level.
He said it.
Luka, Jokic, Giannis said it.
It’s common knowledge for everyone who knows European Basketball and the NBA.
NBA is more athletic, talented, cardio-intensive, and offensive.
FIBA rules allow more contact, less fouls, less free throws, less space, not 3 second rule in the paint. It’s more defensive and team-oriented.
The rules make NBA basketball less physical, and more of an entertaining spectacle of athleticism and talent.
It goes fast, has dunks, open spaces, quick runs at the rim, longer games, more fouls to protect the player and make advertisement money.
Euro is physical but the NBA is just different
Wemby never said that.
The league is changing a lot of these young overseas players that have been playing pro since 16 years old are gonna be used to the nba very quick like Luka and wemby and even lamelo ball kinda
Rookie of the year🎉
MVP ALL-STAR 🎉
Wemby said I took it personal Wee Wee 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He was obviously very skilled. His size how he moves, how he spaces the floor at the five spot and you didn’t think he would be good. My only concern was health but when I saw his stretch’s and how flexible and agile he is for his size it’s gonna take something really bad to take him out. This is not a Anthony Davis situation.
This is 7 days ago. lol. And he just exploded. Man. I hope he stays healthy.
And this is the difference between New Media vs Old Media. Old Media would’ve made a take & rode with it no matter what. New Media know when they’re wrong & knows how to take accountability and change their opinion if needed
And this is before he dropped 38
Nahh don’t change up keep that same energy PG
I’m saying
Wdym?
@@maxmehlberg I love pg he my favorite player but I’m from San Antonio he said that WEMBY wouldn’t be good as soon as he gets in the league
You need to get him on the show
Wemby skillset next to Shaq is just hilarious, there is no comparison. #1 sports prospect in history.
There's no bonus points for being a jack of all trades. Don't act like Shaq in his rookie season didn't have more points, more rebounds, more blocks, more assists, and a higher FG% than Wemby so far in his rookie season. And it isn't even close. Dude put up 23 and 14 rebounds with 3.5 blocks. Bol Bol can do Kevin Durant type moves too. I wish Wemby well but he ain't close to Shaq convos yet.
BTW Wemby has a brother who’s 15 and is 6”5(cant find the wingspan) although I’ve heard 6’8.
If I remember, his brother switched to basketball not so long ago (2 years ?); He was playing handball before.
So he can be gifted as well, but I don't think he will have the same basketball skillset/mindset as he wasn't "living for NBA" as a kid
1:41 dude def smoking something laced 😂
Wemby just needs to be durable and have stamina for the nba pace and officiating because everything else is easy the internationals are running the show right now. Luka said it’s easier to score in the nba vs fiba.
As long as he is healthy, once he get injured, it can be different.
He not yet there with the greatest bigs, but his potentional is through the roof. Hoping for his future success.
Bro said better not greater
PG is cooking him rn 😭
1:50 this why nobody respects Jackie’s takes 😂. Shaq was a coast to coast BEAST not just a paint player lmao
Jackie is pure comedy 😂 Pasadena stand up!
He wasn’t no damm coast to coast nothing. 🤦🏾♂️😂😂 he just did that to show off he had no business dribbling up the court. Stop it
Jackie right here is doing more than what Shaq could do
Rookie Shaq babysitting Wemby lol he was not fair
He will be fine
The Shaq comparison is beyond crazy.
it is NOT a comparison bro wym
Was crazy af
The kid is the next goat it’s insanely apparent
did y'all watch wemby in france or just base your previous opinion on a couple summer league games? If you didn't watch him in France idk why ur giving takes about a player from so few games
This dude wild lmao! Shaq is on that list with Bron and Kareem as day 1 impact rookies in the NBA. Orlando Shaq was a scary mofo
A.I too.
I think he was just talking about the skillset
Shaq was a 21-year old rookie. Kareem was 22 when he entered the league. Wemby is 19.
He flexed on a fellow rookie who he has history with. He’s too legitimately intelligent (intellectually and emotionally) to act a fool. He’s not done dumb American kid who thinks all of this is owed to him. He’s an immigrant, Giannis/Luka/Jokic style. They didn’t start squawking until the lit up a few MF’ers for months in official league runs. Chet’s been on the court with him, taking sh*t, any any hooper would, for YEARS now. That flex has way more history than anything he could ever do with another baller who wasn’t one of his French teammates.
I think if he had different type of coach n system he would thrive even harder
Wemby ain’t better than Shaq. You smoking good LA weed esquire
KG already said Guarding Shaq was like holding up a building lol
lol right that’s actually crazy to say
Same way people said bron wasn’t better than dr J and gervij
Never doubted wemby. When he gets in the weight room it’s really over he is to dam big that can move like AI 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 we never seen this shit before
He can basically pick up the ball at a step inside the three point line , take two steps and dunk it. He did it the other night. If this dude stays healthy, then either san antonia, or whoever he goes to after is gonna win multiple championships in his second contract.
he's incredible
People really just didn’t listen to what Luca said , the nba is easier , people just made the lazy take that he’s to skinny he won’t hold up
Luka never said the nba is easier. Luka said it’s easier to score in the nba. The nba his still harder.
PG that hat is clean my guy
But the way Pop has been using Wemby I don't think he would even guard Shaq
Man delete your RUclips channel. If Wemby guarded its bbq chicken all day.
No, he wouldn't. Wemby plays forward. The Spurs start Zach Collins at center.
Paris talent ⚡️🇫🇷
3 games in fella's? small sample size? perhaps we should wait until next year before commenting.
Y'all beat them.boys down last night had a he had a welcome to the NBA moment y'all humbled that boy but he nice great job Pg !
Wemby is definitely the most skilled big ever.. right now 1game in.. he's doing things thats never been done and he's a coordinated 7'4 alot of guys are 7'0 and up but none move with the fluidity he does and soon he'll be someone you dont want switching on you if you're a guard
Im sorry jokic exist
@@supercoolguy466 yea and he doesn't have the ball skills wemby has the fluidity in his movement or the agility when moving around the court. Can jokic beat a wing off the dribble? Those are the things im thinking about when I made the statement
@@supercoolguy466 and he can't switch in pick and roll
Y’all don’t even know how to define skill. Y’all think dribbling and shooting threes is all there is to skill.
@@devontewilson151agility and athleticism is NOT skill. This is exactly what I’m talking about.
Wemby new name should just be future!
Wemby better than Shaq???? 😭😭😭😭😭 this is why you don't do drugs kids
2:05 he said shaaek in a high pitch voice 😂
Wemby is the GOAT 🐐 It’s not fair!
Wemby is the highlight right now
even might not make the playoff or go far in it He will surprise in every of his game he is an offensive&defensive highlight Rethink that for a sec
Can’t wait to see him vs Durant
Just checked the schedule them Niggas play on Halloween night 😂💨
Talkin bout his, what the hell you got on YOUR feet?! 😂
The one person I know will still be able to finish around Wemby is Kyrie.
He blocked kyrie once
Wemby blocked Kyrie's first shot attempt.
The new Chamberlain! 🎉
Aye tell buddy don’t be like them folks who say ridiculous takes for views
There is one thing that kida "pissed me off". I know Wembanyama is out of the ordinary adn will be an extraordinary player, and I understand that coming after Lukamay be a reason but; I hate Luka got loads critics and "no" hype(compared to Wemby) when going to the Draft, despite being MVP both of ACB(Spanish league which is a STEP above the french league) and Euroleague (Wemby's team didnt even played at European level.
I mean it was so obvious Luka was gonna be a superstar since Day 1 yet some how went down to No.3 and in a trade down .... Seems crazy to me
Dude this is so fucking dumb.
Luka fanboys are the biggest crybabies HES 7”5 DOING STUFF THAT HAS NOT BEEN SEEN. it’s such an anomaly
I wanna say Luka walked so Wemby could run. Luka proved that a youngster formed in Europe could absolutely EAT up players formed in American challenges. Victor's got that shock factor too because he's gigantic. (+ with hindsight everybody agrees Luka shoulda come in number 1)
Luka broke the mold. 4 bozo franchises passed off on him and they’ll forever regret it.
Team needs play a factor. Luka is a prolific scorer. That's not a team need for every franchise
And the mavs have won nothing with him... Yet
Shaq was a superstar in his first game
Happy for him...
And he was 20 yo
@@nouvelarrivantYea, Shaq being solid as Rock and Strong as Hercules helps. No one was as Big and Athletic as Shaq. Dude was a Cannonball but he was also Skilled, so that is a Freak Combo.
Weird... They talk about Wemby, no relation at all with shaq 😂 😂
I saw Steph had to work so hard on wemby to get a shot off. The amount of work required is not sustainable.
Wemby will win his matchups bc he doesn't have to work as hard to create space for shooting.
Wemby > Shaq when it’s all said and done
Bruh if this was the 90’s players would of been like “we are going to kill him regardless of how good he is because he’s a rookie.” Y’all players are too damn soft
I get what he was saying about Shaq. Shaq may be the most dominant big in the history of the NBA but he didn't have the skillset Wemby has. His game was more one dimensional. Did it work for him at the highest level? Of course, but I just think what he was saying what being taken out of context.
Listen if my friend can't stop my 2 or 3 combos then I'mma keep spamming them. Shaq is Shaq lol, he was physically dominant so he didn't need to have a deep bag.
Then say he's more skilled, but he's not better! Gimme the guy who can't be stopped opposed to the more skilled guy.
Victor is Ralph Sampson to the 10th power
worst case scenario for Wemby is a taller Gobert with a jumpshot. that's a pretty good floor to stand on.
Honestly not even, he’s wayyy better guarding the perimeter than Gobert
Get ready, Americans! France is about to dominate world basketball, and I'm not just talking about Wembi. The young players currently being trained at the INSEP are all incredible. In 4 or 5 years' time, you'll have 3 or 4 Wembi players in the NBA.
Ive been saying this for YEARS. INTERNATIONALS ARE COMING and they are going to TAKE THE NBA BY STORM.
The Europeans and Africans, unlike Americans, actually takes EDUCATION, at ALL levels, in every sport, technical field, and academy subject, MUCH more seriously than Americans do.
France and international players in general are going to take over the NBA just watch.
Players dont kno how good Wemby is until they play against him on court
Only reason these NBA dudes doubted him is because he not an American this Kid been playing pro ball against pro players in *A DEFENSIVE LEAGUE*
1:14 "offensive people" make me laugh for no damn reason lmao
I think they just doubt him out of pride. They did the same with bron and it’s just pride and I understand
Wemby is KD, Dirk, Rudy Gobert all in one and he can add to it by adding Giannis Antetekounmpo skills and Getting stronger .
He did not say wemby is better than Shaq bruh he did not 💀
He is def bugging if he think Shaq cant dribble he needs to go and watch Orlando Magic Shaq… shit was insane
Shaq never handled the ball like Wemby, get prescription glasses
Shaq couldn’t do the shit wemby could do offensively just be serious man.
Crazy, they sound just like the fans in the off season now 💀
Nah to keep it 100 real Lakers fan don’t put Shaq that high anymore. Wemby for sure has a chance to take all time big.
Wemby will definitely make All star Starter as a Rookie lol sorry Joker and i can see San Antonio in the play in this season.
100% agree bro
Fuck no
Both of you are delusional spurs fans
No way wemby is averaging more than Jokic
Did you see jok stat line ? 🤣🤣 get the fuck outta here
This was recorded after Wemby’s FIRST NBA game.. how you gonna compare him verses Shaq as a rookie?? His rookie year just started!
Media train in full effect
And Shaq was two years older when he was a rookie.
That kid is better than Shaq rookie he might be better than LA shaq.
Stop it bruh
He strength is what impresses me.
He good but Shaq would score 54 points and 15 rebounds and 3 blocks. Right now Wemby might have a game where he gets 50 points 20 rebounds and 8 blocks. He is heading in that direction. Glad I have NBA Season Ticket. I can watch his every game!
if shaq got wemby in the post he would get arrested for murder. lol
Heres the thing about shaq vs wemby. Shaq came in as the most physically dominate center and people would take him 10/10 times right now because we've seen shaqs career. But, if shaqs foot problems came earlier in his career, he wouldn't have been the great he is. Or if he team up with Kobe...and never won a chip. Legacies can change in a single moment (...just ask drose)
Wemby is the most unique player we've ever seen because we don't know what his potential is. At every other position we know the potential...we've seen the Mjs or the curry's, or the LeBrons or KDs now. We've seen the physical and athlete peak for every position...except for the center. We thought we saw it with players like KD, porzingis as tall unicorns, but weve never seen a big man like this before, and thats the unknown. If he can stay healthy, wemby may be the most game breaking player in history.
They said similar things about Luka
Wemby is the 2k create a player you make with max stats and height.
It was very fun to watch the entire NBA go “holy shit, wtf is this kid” throughout Wembys rookie season.
Call me crazy, but... Wemby's ceiling = #GOAT. His "floor" = short lived superior star, another "what could have been" star.
0:25
You guys still don’t get that the NBA is nowhere as strong as it used to be, whereas Euro Basketball has become much better
The gap between the two is not as big as it used to be
Don’t you wonder why all the best players in the league these last 10 years came from Europe?
Wemby has no problem in the NBA cause he is used to play dudes who actually play defense, who put real physicality in the paint
He is gonna crush that league you have no idea
All NBA players would be a hater unless they’re from France, it’s just competitiveness and ego. This whole process of hating to believing was inevitable the whole time like with Luka lmao
He takin it back cause they play today 😂😂😂😂
Get Jackie off the show for that take 😭
Once again NBA players have no clue what the European leagues are like, the level of play, the level of coaching, the level of strategy, the level of skill. You would think just the move called “the EURO step” might give them a clue. But no, narrow minded and ignorant.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! Ive been saying this for years, KOBE BRYANT, God rest his soul, was saying this ad nauseam before he died. Euro leagues are more PHYSICAL, the refs allow WAY more contact and do NOT call fouls (most of the time) for INCIDENTAL contact.
Wemby has been HEALTHY in a more physical league and yet low iq hoops fans (I mean, of course they are low Iq, many of them think a PED-injecting, stat-padder like Lebron who feasts on trasitional layups/dunks and refs swallowing their whistles when he bulldozes his way to the rim - the beginning and end of his value on the court is getting to the rim - is really in the goat conversation when he has no business being in it) think he will get injured.
They are questioning his durability in a less PHYSICAL league where stats are outrageously protected in ways that border on "rigging."
Wemby will end up as the GOAT. Just watch.
Durant is very skinny and 7 foot. He, Achilles injury aside, has been mostly healthy his whole career. Wemby has access to the latest in exercise physiology and exercise medicine and nutrition that past Big greats didn't have access to. The efficacy of platelet rich therapy, for instance, and Lebrons alleged use of EPO, for instance, show how valuable modern medicine is in injury prevention and recovery.
Fears of him being overhyped were ALWAYS dumb if you actually watched him play in Europe. He was always going to be a STUD because, like MJ, Kobe, he has SKILL, not just athleticism.
Some players are overrated (Lebron), some players are underrated (Wemby before the NBA season started). But in the end, the cream rises to the top.
“He looked good bro.”
Pause, bro. Pause.
that was already an apologie but comming 6 month later he has "flexed" on whole league everyone love him even draymond called him true DPOY lmao y'all should redo it i swear
I get what he saying about Wemby but he’s more Dirk then Shaq . There will never be another Shaq
He's more mobile than Dirk. I think he'll end up as some combo of Hakeem, KD, KG, KP, a modern Kareem and Ralph Sampson with his defensive and offensive impact.
@@jdankerdake brother I agree , I only thought of dirk because of his ability to put it on the floor but a Ralph Samson sized KG is a PERFECT comparison