COBB Stage 2 Ford Raptor Review - vlog 3
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2019
- Fed up with the lack of power my 2018 Ford Raptor was making, I decided it was time to give COBB Tuning a try. Their upgraded Stage 2 Kit solved lots of the issues I had with this truck. Everything from improving the exhaust notes to eliminating that dreaded pedal lag. This kit is well worth the investment, adding another 100 horsepower to the engine and making it feel as awesome as it looks.
link to COBB Stage 2
www.cobbtuning.com/2017-2018-...
Hidden winch kit by Swarf Works
swarfworks.com/shop?olsPage=p...
Modification list:
• COBB Accessport
•COBB FMIC Intercooler
• Cobb Air Intake
• Icon Leaf Springs
• Icon Bump Stop Kit
• FOX Racing Series External Pass Shocks
• FOX Racing Series Coilovers
• Swarf Works Hidden Winch Mount
• Warn Zeon Platinum 10-S
• Swarf Works Switch Pros 9100 Mount
• VenomRex Wheels
• Built Right Industries Bed Panel Rack
• SPD Performance Downpipes & Turbo Adapters
Music:
1st song Star Wars Imperial March Trap remix by Goblins From Mars
2nd song Candy Floss by Push n' Glide
3rd song Expanding by Johan Börjesson
4th song Retriver by Henrik Olsson
100% correct that these trucks need a tune. I was massively underwhelmed by my Gen 2 when I picked it up. Sadly I traded my 2013 Roush Raptor that was heavily tuned for it, and kind of regret it.
That said, this truck takes to tunes far better and is way more capable than the Gen 1 when it comes to off road ability, and off road durability. The Gen 1 definitely lacked in that area.
So glad hearing you say that. It’s difficult to get an honest opinion out there when there’s so much pride of ownership clouding people’s assessment of their truck.
That was a long ass Cobb commercial 😂😂
😂😂😂
Nice Matthew McConaughey impression. You're working hard and hitting all the right buttons to become internet famous, just too many of you guys out there.
Bro I don’t know if you make your own videos... but wow. Your video quality is unmatched
💯 home brewed. Thanks for the love. Once we can come off this lockdown I’ll be making a few more.
Awesome review and channel!!!
Vinícius thank you for the kind words.
Today I learned a 450hp 500ft/lbs of torque is under powered.
In a 6000lb truck with 35s But really it’s the turbo lag that makes it feel sluggish, the truck has NO roll on power it’s a light switch
Own one and you’ll discover that trying to offroad this thing ain’t all that. Factory Suspension is junk and yes, it’s under powered. Lot of pedal and turbo lag. Both easily fixed with a small investment which is my point, should’ve come better tuned from the factory. Numbers don’t matter if it’s not getting the job done and keep in mind, the factory 450hp isn’t at the wheel.
0-60 in 5.2 seconds. I'm not sure what this kid is smoking... link below..
Obviously it's a paid content by Cobb...
www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/f-150/2019/2019-ford-f-150-raptor-first-drive-review/
First you sound very similar to Matthew McConaughey. Secondly the production value is amazing. At first I was asking myself why I wasn’t subbed and then it really blew me away how amazing the video vs the lower number of subs you have. My hats off and a sub for sure.
Dead Leg Media well alright alright alright 😁 Thank you for the very very kind words and compliments. I’ll do my best to keep it entertaining for you
As I’m shopping for raptors right now and you’re only a state away from me in Colorado I’d love to do some colab work if you’re down. Love all your very tasteful mods you’ve done to yours already
Dead Leg Media I’m 100% down for that. Dam me and let’s make something happen 🙌🏻
I’ll shoot ya a DM on Instagram @dead_leg_media
Killer video brotha, Cobb tune it is 🙌🏼
Yoooo this is probably the best video I’ve seen for the ford Raptor. I’m actually looking at buying a 2019 Raptor in this video is inspiring lol. Great job cinematics on point audio is frkn great makes me just want to go and get that truck right now. Shit this video makes me want to make some Raptor videos once I get mine, I don’t think I have the skills to get this type of footage but DAMN This thing is amazing man. Definitely subscribing. Hope I get to see more videos of your raptor
Nice vid bro 👌
Lol, the Leo scene. 👋👋👋 I subscribed cause of the Raptor.
el Caballero thank you and I’ve got some really awesome Raptor content coming out shortly!
amazing video.
This is exactly how I felt on my first drive in the gen 2. Def going to look into this, all around great video keep'em coming!!!!
josh White 100%. Lot of people think I’m spoiled with the fast cars and have no grasp of what’s fast but I felt for 70k ford could’ve put a few more ponies under the hood.
Picking up a '19 Raptor on monday. Once the warranty is over hopefully Cobb will have something. Used Cobb for my old STI.
The Cappy COBB should have their Accessport tune for the 19 coming out in the next couple months. You could always drop their larger intercooler in it for some gains. Won’t void your warranty and you’ll have some cooler charge temps.
Kid Richmond won’t void warranty?
How do you only have 2k subs?! This quality is A-1!
I really like your content! Very enticing video editing, I was having some trouble with the audio that was a little distracting though. It sounded like during the city shots you may have had an underlying track playing over the louder track that cuts in? Maybe I'm wrong but that's what it sounded like. I was only getting audio out of my left ear during your talk in the car that starts @8:00, also had a pretty good echo effect going on. Last thing that I and many others would agree on would be to cut out the audio on exhaust notes so we can hear it clearly, especially if you are trying to isolate the sound after installing a mod. Other than that, good stuff! Look forward to more Raptor content :)
Thank you for the words. Yes the audio definitely has some issues. I switched from Adobe premiere to Final Cut half way through editing and somehow have a ghost track in there. Also, I think you're spot on with only hearing one channel. I picked up a new Rode VMP+ in hopes to capture better audio but I think I'll have to read the manual thoroughly for the next vlog. Currently editing that now, going to showcase the Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid!!!
aww man, no amount of modding is gonna make that exhaust sound good enough for me, I swapped mine out for the Borla S type and have absolutely no regrets. The underwhelming exhuast volume was solved without being too obnoxious
Borla was high on my list. I heard that’s who Ford used to build their performance exhaust.
Kid Richmond not very expensive and great sounding, hoping it will sound better with this stage 2 kit (yea I’m probably gonna end up getting it for the low end gains) I also agree a tune is 100% necessary. 450hp is a lot of horsepower but the throttle response isn’t really where you want it and really want to get some of those low end gains
Wonderful video and thank you for the tips! Any thoughts on running E85, as well as what would need to be done to have a reliable setup on flexfuel and E85? I’m really considering doing this, I’m just afraid of dealers being able to see that the stock map hasn’t been in use before coming in for service and just has been reflashed the day before . From some of the information I’ve gathered over the years with tunes and warranty claims, is that if a significant problem pertains (I.e. new engine, new trans, ect) the dealers can see when the last time the base parameters were running. So I’m sure they can put two things together and realize the car has had some sort of tune over a period of time where the ecu was not functioning at stock parameters. I know It’s a nightmare scenario but I’d rather be safe than sorry, any input would be greatly appreciated! Thank you once again for your wonderful video, you have earned yourself a subscriber, keep up the good content!
Christian Menger thank you for the compliments and yes that’s a rather hot topic with regards to warranty.
Here’s the deal on that, legally, a dealer can’t void a warranty due to tubes, parts install/ modifications etc unless they can prove unequivocally that said mods are directly responsible for the incurred part failure. But here’s the deal with that; even though you as a consumer are protected by the Moss-Magnusson warranty act, it doesn’t mean that some dealerships won’t give you a hard time.
Now with that said, it’s why I’ll only run parts and tunes from highly respected and reputable companies such as COBB Tuning. They’re a huge company and put a ton of work into product R&D.
I’m not sure what’s required for E85/ flexfuel setup. I think the COBB is already programmed for E85 but I’ll double check and follow up.
Kid Richmond Thank you so much for the input, and getting back to me so fast. I will have to find a dealer that won’t try to flag me for mods , and won’t give me hard time for modding. Can’t wait to see more raptor content ! :)
I just picked up a 2019 raptor and I'm enamoured with this truck. I think the power is awesome in stock form and can't imagine what Cobb feels like. I had a GD7 Impreza STi with Cobb Stage 2, so I know what Cobb is capable of. Just not sure if I want to bust the warranty on a 90k truck just yet. We'll see.
Simon Johnson if you’re already liking the stock performance then you’re definitely going to be in for a treat once COBB releases support for the 2019.
I saw they released turbo blankets for the Focus the other day. Hoping they release them for the 3.5 🤞🏻
90k damn you got butt fucked. They got 2019 raptors here in Texas for 65-67k www.helfmanford.net/new/Ford/2019-Ford-F-150-for-Sale-in-Stafford-TX-9641468d0a0e0ae72b213ab93bc29c33.htm?searchDepth=1:11
@@BlackHornetTactical Canada truck. Thanks for your input though.
I can appreciate your opinion on the lack of power. Without going crazy, a little more power is always good. I was checking into the parts list you’ve supplied and when I check the manufacture’s web site, I’m having difficulty narrowing down what parts you’ve actually gotten. Would you be able to supply more specific information on those parts, please? Additionally, would you be able to post what the truck sounds like outside the vehicle? Thanks!
More specifically, you listed: SPD Performance Downpipes & Turbo Adapters. Also, did you purchase the other hardware for the adapters?
Happy to. You’re looking for the 17+ Raptor COBB intercooler and Accessport. I wouldn’t bother with the turbo adapters. They help with sound but I think you’ll be happy with just the intercooler and Accessport.
I’d get some sound clips for you but I’ve moved on from the Raptor yo a Ram Rebel.
Best editing ever
You hit on my biggest gripe with the truck. The turbo lag sucks, but when it struggles to figure out which gear to be in, that’s just infuriating. Don’t think it needed all 10 gears…
Yeah the 10 speed was definitely overkill. Maybe great in a more refined TCM but this setup is dogshit.
Blow of valve back into the air filter box , that’s what I’m talking about !
Hard to cross streams and rivers with a big hole sucking up water.
I picked up a 19 also, ultimately I’m on the quest for a 4 second 0-60
Carlson Ramos then I’d highly recommend getting their stage 2 plus once it’s ready for the 19. These ecoboost engines really rip once they’re properly tuned. Did you get the 802a? How’s the live valving on that thing.
I love that intro!
Right on !
Raptor $70,000 , cobb stge 2 tune kit $3,000 , asking the little lady if your guns in the door
Pricless !! Thanks for the video
See ya on trails
How much horsepower and torque is the stage 2 vs stage 1
Lol man I own a 2018 ford raptor for a truck form the factor it is fast and has good power. When you drive a exotic car a raptor is probably gonna feel slow to you😅
Glo Kingzz I think everything just feels slow to me 😁
Do you still run this or have the raptor?
Hey i'm in they northern Utah area. I was wondering where you got your work done?
jerlowthom I’m in Park City and do everything myself. Let me know if you need some help.
Why risk voiding your warranty when you can trade it in for the new ram trx
Could you do a review on what you have installed on your raptor?
Absolutely 👍🏻 I’ll be putting out a video in the next couple weeks that showcases the mods and why I chose them.
Kid Richmond that’s great I’ll be waiting👍🏽👍🏽
anyone know what is that controller call @ 7:43. Thanks in advance
Thanks for warranty reply. How strong is the eco boost platform to sustain the power increase?
Guillermo Faria it’s got some room for growth but I wouldn’t try going full out like some tuners are suggesting. It’s a turbo so easy to burn up if you’re not careful
Just got a 2019 raptor and goes alright depends what your used to, gas mpg not good my friends 400hp dodge gets 26-28. And those who say you don't buy a Raptor for mpg are either rich or serious off roaders. If I'am going to get bad mpg than it better GO. Thats why I'am here debating Cobb vs Whipple. Problem is neither give you the best in a kit it's ok but not best. So I got a CP-E Monster intercooler and the AFE duel filter air intake I believe thats better, now it's up to whos the best TUNER, the Cobb looks good can you adjust top speed I mean 108 mph that's a joke. Have you tried a perfor. blow off valve is it worth it? Havn't bought anything yet but will in next 2 weeks feedback would be helpfull thanks.
I never worry about gas mileage. Guess I’m a bit of both of what you describe but I do agree, for being a V6 “ECO” boost, I did expect it to get better than 14mpg on average. Our Porsches have twin turbo V8s and twin turbo V6s, make anywhere between 450-550 HP and get waaaay better mileage. I know these are lighter vehicles but a prime example is the 2020 Cayenne that weighs around 5000lbs 550 hp and I get around 19 on average with my foot in it all the time.
For which tuner to chose I think it really comes down to what you’re expected levels conveniences/ inconveniences are. By that I mean, COBB has the best off the shelf tune, works with a Mac, has a really slick interface and won’t give you any fuss and the hardware looks good. I’ve used other tuners as well like through the Ngauge which looks extremely cheap and hated everything except the actual tune that was built custom for me. Plus you have to do the whole email back and forth with your tuner, give them time to get it dialed in, they pass back a file built off your stock file and so on. I don’t like this approach for one simple reason, i got shit to do. I just want to jump in the truck, set it and forget it.
I do have a freshly rebuilt turbo smart BOV sitting here in the box if you’re interested. It’s what I ran with the COBB setup and had it reroutes back to the airbox. No gains made but I felt better about running the turbo smart bov than the plastic that Ford sends with the truck.
4WD, 35s BFG KO2w and a motor with boost 14-16 is actually good. You put that motor in a 2WD on street tires or gets 20+
Please can you put out a video on how much all thess mods costed you.??.
Rishab Mishra coming soon
@@KidRichmond Waiting Bro Thanks for replying.🙂
I have a 19 that I'm looking to tune. Not sure what this guy is expecting, its a truck. This thing is faster than any other truck. Stick for stock of course. Its quick for what it is. Next video "my truck gets horrible gas mileage"
Nope, not one of those MPG people but for a 70k truck it feels dead in the water. Sure, it’s still a truck but doesn’t mean we shouldn’t expect more when paying a premium. When I make my assessments I don’t compare to what is currently the fastest, I compare to what could’ve been done and who did it. Your method requires everyone to lower their standards. My methods ask consumers to expect more and encourages innovation.
Awesome video, thanks for the kind words about our Raptor tune! Let us know when you're ready to wake up the P-cars. ;) - Marshall@COBB
2019 raptor tune?
@@Peavey02 In the works!
COBB Tuning it’s tempting. Always need more power 🙌🏻
COBB Tuning the current tune online is only up to 2018? ETA for the 2019? Thanks
Are you guys working on E85 kit?
Does this void the warranty
Guillermo Faria yes and no. With the Moss Magnuson warranty act, the burden of proof that the parts caused damage should anything break resides on the dealer. Let’s say you install the intercooler and forget to tighten up a clamp and the turbos ingest dirt then the bearings go out, that would potentially void it because the dealer can say those are the points of failure. That’s why you want to make sure everything is properly installed. As for the tune, that’s something the dealer would have to prove caused engine failure and if you remove it prior to having it serviced or repaired then they can only know you had it installed if you tell them. Sounds sort of deceitful but you have to remember dealers love to blame anything. They’ll try to blame a paint job for an axle breaking if you let them. COBB engineers their products and tunes to meet very high and rigorous standards. This tune plus intercooler really opens up the motor so it feels punchy.
Panty dropper is such an underused term
This guy drives a Ram Rebel now, turned in the Raptor for a better truck, in my opinion. You should see his Ram, it's bad ass.
Lol have you ever driven a raptor?? Besides the Ram having a V8 , it is underpowered compared to the raptor. So if he wasn’t happy with the raptor the Ram is wayyy slower.
At what point will the engine blow up? 50k or 100k miles?
22,000i -ish
Lot’s of talk about being underpowered from the factory when the ‘17 runs a 13.9 seconds at 97.3 mph in the quarter. It was also featured in motor trends “12 Quickest Pickup Trucks“. Your explanation of pleasing or “good” exhaust tones is just incorrect. Horsepower alone simply does not correlate to pleasant exhaust tones. Plenty of applications with far less power than the Raptor have had aggressive and pleasing exhaust notes (take a 90s LT1 F-Body for example). I also would have appreciated some before and after ETs, or at least some Dyno results to substantiate your findings instead of the girlfriend and gun bit. Excellent quality and production on the video though.
Thanks for the underhanded compliment. I’ll keep my girl and gun in the future bits before dyno pulls though.
The biggest issue with me saying the truck is underpowered is not that there’s a lot of talk about it, the real issue is the way people spout off 1/4 mile times as if it translates to a trucks performance abilities offroad. The even bigger issue is the fanboy base this truck has amassed and how those people who don’t even own, or have ever driven the truck, talk so highly about it.
A new Ram can run the 1/4 mile in 14.7 seconds. So saying the Raptor can do it in 14 isn’t saying much and that’s another reason why I don’t talk track times. In the desert you don’t go into launch mode unless you want to dig ruts and create dust clouds. So that’s a rather useless statistic and one you won’t see published on XTV brand sites because in real world usage those specs mean nothing unless you’re goal is to have the fastest stoplight to stoplight times in front of the local Dairy Queen.
And yes, more horsepower pumping through the same matrix of stainless will create different exhaust notes, thats just a fact.
@Kid Richmond Its your channel bro, you can do whatever you please. I came looking for facts and empirical results about a specific tune and got a lot opinions and subjective claims. That's ok, its youtube, its just not for me. I also never stated a change in horse power wouldn't create different tonal characteristics of the exhaust note, I just refuted that there is a one to one correlation that more power is what makes a vehicle sound "better", as you implied in your video. There is a lot factors that account for an appealing exhaust tone(flow, pressure, runner lengths, firing order, materials, etc). Anyways, just giving honest feedback, and not intending to offend you. Keep on trucking.
John-Paul Dienst thanks for the feedback
Maybe your truck had a issue bc I got 2 and they are fast my 2017 runs 0-60 in 4.9 and my 2019 with only 14K on the odemeter is running it in 5.2 not Porsche fast but maybe that’s why I don’t drive the type of cars u do maybe my sense of speed would change. Or maybe being in Utah just at elevation even with turbos it’s slower either way glad u enjoying the truck now
I understand what you’re saying and yes speed can also be very subjective but I drive a lot of trucks and the raptor doesn’t feel impressive, especially or the price. To compare, a 19 Ram can run 0-60 in 6.1 miles. Until you get into the 4s you won’t really start to feel a big difference. So whether it’s 5.9 or 6.1 or even 5, it all feels relatively the same.
Ford really messed up putting an ecoboost in such a beautiful truck. But they messed up even more by going with a leaf-over-axle rear instead of a coil suspension. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping the 2022 Raptor has coils and a supercharged V8 option. But I’ll likely be in a TRX
Kid Richmond there is a coil spring raptor coming you’ll have the option of leaf or coil spring it’s all over the internet they have seen it out testing multiple times a few even caught it parked while the driver was away and got actual pictures of the coil spring suspension so don’t worry lol.
Richard Mahoney I’ve seen that. My buddy got to ride with the engineers but the worry is they’ll scrap it with the current direction of the economy. I think Ford going to coil speaks volumes to their indirect admission of short comings on the gen 2. Really loving what Ram has done lately though so we’ll have to see who can deliver first.
Hey Kid, do you know any coupon code for Cobb tuning?
Francisco Rios Ceuppens I sure don’t but that’s something I’ll ask COBB about. I’d highly recommend ordering from Offroad Alliance though.
@@KidRichmond oh i will look it out!!
@@KidRichmond But in off road alliance is the same price .. do you know if they have a coupon code??
Shoulda just bought a roush cold air intake for $300 and petal commander for $300 if you want to fix the hp and lag for cheaper...
Interesting comment. Unfortunately it’s not as you say. 1. Pedal commanders do nothing to eliminate turbo lag, wish they did but they don’t. They merely adjust curve for the throttle wire input. You can depress the pedal 1/4 and get full throttle. 2. The factory intake in a raptor (and most vehicles) is a cold air intake. CAI can help the engine get a better breath but it isn’t the magic HP gain that everyone claims it to be. At most some people have been able to pull 5hp gains on a dyno and even those are tall claims. The importance of adding an upgraded intake to a tuned engine is simply to make sure the engine is capable of pulling in a large enough volume of air under x amount of time to be compatible with the remapping of the tune. 3. Shoulda just bought a Ram TRX but those weren’t available at the time.
What is that grey color called?
Lead foot gray
Kid Richmond I’ve been studying the raptor for at least four years and just can’t do it. I love the idea but the reports of problems and shop visits just annoy me to no end. Every component in a Ford is as cheap as it can be made. I just can’t do it.
Nice production, extremely limited feedback.
You didn't walk on it much
I own one and they are shit in terms of power delivery. Quality has really suffered with all the plastic garbage. Door latches are shit. I was a big fan of ford products, now I have my doubts. Great aftermarket support, but only after $3500, should have come from factory with all the tunes especially at 80k.
Glad to hear you’re not in the fanboy camp that just wants to choke on Ford’s schlong. I caught so much hate for saying this truck sucks from the factory. I now realize most people have low standards.
Bro.... lol hahaha
buy a trx if this isnt enough power
Wtf is this guy talking about? It's not powerful stock? It's more powerful than the gen 1, and I'm sure it's one of the more "powerful" stock trucks that you can buy
Adam Erickson for how much this truck and what it’s marketed to do, the truck lacks power from the factory which is easily accessed with many different brand tuners. The fact that a $500 tune can unlock an additional 80-100HP is evidence enough that companies saw the lack of power as a great money making opportunity because the customer demand is there.
If you try to offroad the raptor in hot weather you’ll quickly find that the stock intercooler is prone to heat soak which is another reason why companies such as COBB have engineered a larger FMIC to allow the truck to deliver consistent performance. I’ve logged more miles than 90% of Raptor owners in the offroad department and feel I’m delivering a qualified assessment for those that use their Raptor as a Raptor and not a commuter vehicle.
I stand by my original statements that for the amount this truck cost and the fact that Ford could’ve easily unleashed the appropriate amount of power for the same cost, leaves buyers underwhelmed. But like you said, what the fuck do I know.
Ur driving a turbo s of course this will feel slow. All cars will..
Toddly21 not exactly how that works but i can see why you’re thinking that. It’s just a slow truck for the specs it has. Even the ford engineers think so but since fanboys buy them up they don’t have a reason to make them faster. Well, now that the TRX is coming ford will have to do something.