May I say something about suffering? I'm a woman in the Middle East. I'm familiar with pain and suffering, I know them intimately. The pain and suffering, their intensity and utter hopelessness brought me to Jesus. Had I not been drifting in that pitch black darkness, I could never have seen the light of God. You need to know both. It's like those drawings with charcoal, shadow and light play together to create a beautiful picture. Seems immature to expect only goodness in the world. How would we learn anything then?
@@velkyn1 This reminds me of the famous quote: "At Auschwitz, tell me, where was God?" And the answer: "Where was man?” ― William Styron, Sophie's Choice
We need more people from the Academic community to speak out on their faith. If they are believers. It's refreshing to hear highly intelligent men talking about their faith and why they believe. I hope that made sense. Thank you for sharing this video.
Religion is for insecure ppl...if you really need a god , try praying to thunder god, more mightier than Jesus god... All you need is just have faith in thunder god, don't ask questions, just pray to thunder god 12 time a day
"We" being you, and which, specific identifiable interlocutor? No academic or intellectual you eh Elsie? You have *Absolutely_No* idea what faith Is and even les of an idea that it is the *Exact_Opposite of that weakness and stupefying factor belief, which is a form of dreaming They two are as alike as butcher's cleaver is*like* a surgeon's scalpel. Foth has *Fuck_Nothing* to do with believing or belief they are *Exact_Opposites*, but you simply *cannot* understand that any more than a did could understand it, can you? *That you are about to demonstrate as you demonstrate your complete innocence of any sort of intellectual ability or accomplishment.
Help me with this please: What exactly do you suppose yourself to be doing when you " *believe*", and do you understand that faith and belief are*exact_opposites*? and that faith has *absolutely_nothing* to do with belief? However I have the uneasy suspicion that I would be better-or as well, off addressing a dog, but give it your best shot and surprise me, you that are entirely innocent of any sort of intellectual accomplishment or acuity, are you not?
My respect for this man is ever growing, every single video I have seen him speak on Christ is totally refreshing and I wish all people had the ability to speak so intellectually clear and straight forward! May the lord bless you ❤
John 7:18 18 Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.
If you suppose that pork chop Lennox could possibly be able to be able to be a christian, you clearly have no idea of what the way of christ consists and no more does the smug arrogant porkchop that supposes that the sun shines out of his own arse
All religions but one are Satanic works of fiction. The only religion that God recognises is charity, James 1:27. True Christianity, on the other hand, isn't a religion but a way of life founded on the belief in and the teachings of Jesus Christ which lead to eternal life, John 3:16. True Christianity is love, 1 Corinthians 16:14.
@@Libeth-97 Jesus literally taught against the religious leaders during His time on earth. Christianity is a religion in that anyone is welcome to leave the faith in peace, versus a cult, whereby people are not welcome to leave in peace. However, the truest form of Christianity is following Jesus, exactly as He asked people to do. May the peace of The Lord be with you, in Jesus’ name. Amen. ✨💖💪✝️🕊️💖✨
I can't think why fatso might defend christianity when he is no more able to be able to be a christian than you are and has no better or worse idea of what it might mean to be a christian than you do, neither of you having the ingredients or any idea what conditions must be satisfied before anyone can even begin to be able to be able to be a christian and neither you nor he nor anyone has any idea what they might be, which is why there*Are_No* christians
What makes you ssuppose that the pork chop understands anything of christianity when he is no christian because he could no more be a christian that you I orany dreaming machine, and like you or I could not be christuanymore than he could fast for eve seven days; the smug pork chop is a fraud. I'm never sure what those that chuck the word'god'about like confetti mean by it and whenever I ask them they make it more than obvious that they have not the faintest idea whattheyymean byy the silly word, exactly as you don't titch. You simply*cannot* define'god without resort to cngonates synonyms desciptions(and of course not) examples and other forms of circularity or begging the question or x=y=x where neither x nor y are defined or ascribed a value because god is just some vague dreamy idea that *some_else* put into diddum's head,so it is somene_elses* idea not diddum's who is just the passive recepracle of someone else's shit- a sort of organic walking chattering bog or lavatory and what the word actually*means* diddums has not the faintest idea. and that titch you are about to demonstrate why the fcuk anyone supposes that Christianity has anything to do with the god fantasy is anyone's guess, because it is not a word that a Jew is allowed to use thus jesus christ*Never* used the word god for obvious reasons and if ever anyone suffered in translation it is that poor fcuk, who picked a *very* queer way of committing suicide indeed.
I love listening to this gentleman he makes everything so clear. I could listen to him for hours. I find myself looking for the next video and the next one!!
Pah! The pork chop humble?!! if fatso got any more smug complacent and arogant he would explode; there never was a man with a higher opinion of himself than porkchop Lennox, who plainly thinks that the sun shines out of his own arse. From where do you get such meaningless mantras as "accept accept Jesus from our birth"? I don’t know if it has escaped you attention as has the detail of the way of Christ, but Jesus was-for himself destroyed forever some thousands of years ago and is thus very dead indeed Man hat says "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon theworld,t hey do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war, for there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone,” could well bring a teaching so hard and austere that by comparison pathetic bleating about” accepting jesus which is precisely the sort of sloppy sentimental bulllshit, that such a man who went out of his way to warn those attracted by his reaching how expensive it was in terms of sacrificing vacuous dreams about nonsense like accepting Jesus into our hearts which is simply sloppy sentimental pap! logic calls for valid premises and a valid conclusion not sloppy sentimental and utterly meaningless bleating. The idea that the swaggering complacent Lennox could possibly be able to be able to follow the way of Christ is simply absurd. Logic? where are the premises and what is the inclusion that the premises force? what the fcuk does "let jesus into our hearts*Mean*, over and above being sloppy sentimental bullshit? its just the sort of weakling nonsense, that sentimental weaklings tend to bleat-It's not supposed to*Mean* anything? No surprises there.
My Mum was nurse in British hospital in India during World war 2, the Surgeon General of hospital, Always said prayers to God before he performed the operstions on people.
Did he view the colonized Indians as equal??? think on that and then you will see why places like India don't care for Christianity. And I say this as a Christian myself.
Golden wisdom from John Lennox. Great awesome answers of those familiar questions of our faith. With some humor along. Jesus bless us all our journeys.🥰✝️🙏💞
Why did God not intervene with the suffering in this broken world? Actually, He will! I look forward to the day when God will console his people who have endured suffering and that there will be no more death, sadness, crying, or anguish because God will wipe every tear from our eyes. Herein is the utmost goodness that God possesses!
Suffering is intrinsically good, apart from the hope of ultimate restitution. Just look at the people who've always had it easy and compare them to those who went through horrible times.
You illustrate the concomitant confusion that inevitablt accompanies idolatry which is why that latter is forbidden by whichever section it is of the tencommandments commanment(as amended by the ten commandments(miscellaneous amendments)commandment to be found in the book of Makeitupasyougoalong in the jewbook which - being a devout religious Jew, you suppose to have some magic.. You*are* a Jew as I am, are you not? Lucky old you.
The amusing thing is that nearly all their orisons of men(human beings/dreaming machines) boil down to "Please make it that the sum of two and two be *not* four or that- which- is - and -cannot- be different different. In the imortal words of Eliot: " humankind cannot bear very much reality" Quite how and why rthe smug pork chop imagines that he might be or even might be*able* to be a christian when he plainly is not and s*simply_cannot* be anything of the sort is anybody's guess, but then men(human beings/sreaming machines are inveterate dreamers liars and self-deceivers,and the worst and most stupfying form of dreaming is *believing*which has*Fcuk_Nothing* to do with faith which is a very subtle psychological skill, so it osnot*not* for dreaming halfwits.
Thank you so much for sharing this absolutely wonderful conversation! I can only confirm what Professor John Lennox said about Germany: look at what is happening right now in this country! It’s so sad … One can only cry 😢 😢😢 Anyway, I would like to express once again my sincere gratitude for sharing this interview on this channel! 💐💐💐 May God bless you all! Amen ✝ Kind regards, Anna
This was a really great discussion, thanks for posting it! I’m sad to see so much hate in the comments but I’m sure the points made have to get those searching for the truth thinking seriously.
Thanks for your interest! It's good to know, on the other hand, that we're not just preaching to the choir and people on the other side of the debate engage with this type of content.
The only major religion that insisted the earth is a sphere all through the middle ages Wass Christianity. Christian kings held a sphere with a cross on it because the Bible is clear the earth is a sphere which rotates on it's own axis. The Galileo incident didn't happen as taught today.
@@Practical.Wisdom John can't use a simple chalkboard and demo an A is B, ILLOGICAL IMPOSSIBLE CONTRADICTION. A ABSOLUTE FALSE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS. Lets plug data into formula and critically evaluate result. Only the opposite hypothesis can be ABSOLUTE TRUTH. A isn't B law of non contradiction A is B? A non conscious non intelligent non being non moral non legal non just caused the A is B illogical impossible contradiction effect of B your conscious intelligent being, moral legal and just This is an ABSOLUTE FALSE FACT, an ABSOLUTE ILLOGICAL IMPOSSIBLE CONTRADICTION never evidenced in nature or labs.
Thanks for sharing what you went through and perspective. I would also like to share my observations of many people including myself that led me to similar perspective. That is often it’s only through suffering that we would even think of God; at least they make us ask if there is a God or his existence. Otherwise in our busy lives chasing after the pleasures of life/ wealth/fame….etc, we wouldn’t give a hoot who God is or if even exist. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against going after our dreams in this world but….sufferings do make us think God, at least to ask if he exists cos we hate sufferings
This is magnificent! So many practical examples of how to explain Christianity to others. I feel like I have been rebooted in my faith by the truth I just listened to! 🙌🏼
Why do you think Cristianity is on the decline in Europe? Great answer by Professor Lennox. Another thing I want to point out is the rise of bolshevism or neo bolshevism as I'd like to call it, in Western Europe, even though the example of bolshevik terror, pain and suffering in the Eastern Europe is right there for evereyone to see and the memories are still very much alive. I'm Albanian by the way and even though I was a kid in the 80s I remember pretty much everything. It goes to show you how stupid the human pcyche in the Western Europe it actually is. Gold fish intelligence. The same thing goes to us in the Eastern Europe I guess, for adopting bolshevism in the 1940s, when the example of Stalin's death and destruction was out in the open. Bless you Professor Lennox!!! Keep up the good work!
Whatever whoever supposes christianity to be, it was replaced in Europe and most of the sort-of english speaking world by that queer religion modernism that is a sub-religion of the religion Marxism as a direct result of the inevitable collapse of the big business pseudo christianity Ltd to say nothing of several bouts of mas psychosis; it is no longer fashionable to claim to be christian(which is of course impossible for dreamers)
Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world. (James 1:27 ESV)
Thank you for sharing your Christian faith with such humility 'Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will acknowledge before my Father in heaven' Mt 10: 32-33
The one who says, “Love your enemies” is definitely a God, because enemies are God’s creation as well, and we have not heard of any other religion that says, “Love your enemies.” If these words were applied to people, evil would be eliminated from the earth. This is what makes Christianity, which is an extension of Judaism, a unique religion.
hahhahahahhah, you don't call people who you love, enemy. If it is the other way around and they are your enemies first and than you try to love them, will they love you back, if they not, is it realistic to actually love them? Surely somewhere within you, you will surely be wary of them if they do something to hurt you again even if you seriously fucking love them although that is out of option. I think logically we can understand that one can forgive their enemies to save themself from the mental trauma, that is psychologically true as well. Forgive but never forget or you'll collapse again.
Wow, what a prince the crafting of God has allowed John Lennex to become. May God preserve, lengthen and ever widen your sterling living witness and logic for years to come.
"Christianity does not Compete with any other Religion, because Jesus offers me what No other Religion offers me. Nobody else offers Forgiveness & Love on such terms & a relatonship" ❤❤❤
If only you could set out what god is or define whattever it is *without*resort to cognates and synonyms or other forms of circularity, but you are about to demonstrate that you simply cannot, by signally failing to do so, because you neither have the faintestidea what you mean by god nor what the word conveys to you, nor what you seek to convy when you use the word, because you have *Absolutely_No*idea what whatever you mean by'god is, and that you will demonstrate. Rember the rule no circularity or cognates or synonyms or psychological albra of the sort x-y=x, where neither x nor y is defined or given a value. you*will* demonstrate that because like many of the words you use you have *no* clear idea what it means and cannot set out what it means without resort to circularity or begging the question. You*will* not et out what it is set out what it means without resort to circularity or begging the question, because you simply cannot, and that you are about to demonstrate.
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Flat earth theory is not believing, but quite the opposite, we’re being lied to about everything, some people just choose to go with their own eyes and senses rather than governments telling what to believe in.
People wish to remain ignorance many times in the Bible scriptures say that the Earth stands on foundations and is on unmovable has 4 corners. It’s very clear in the book of Enoch especially NASA is just a lie the letter T when they say minus T and counting. Rearrange the letters with the letter T and you have Satan.
@@jasonroberts9788 flat earther is not the believe on a flat surface, like a table, we have been lied to so much on everything, still, im sure you buy into the moon landing, many questions but hey was on tv must be true. do you believe the earth is spinning wild with the other planets thru "space" but the stars still keep same orientation?.... just that one questions boggles logic, there is more to creation that tv talking heads,bankes ans politicians which benefit of normies to buy into the stories on tv and news.
Jesus Christ is active from heaven to earth, he has not left us, he's always present in the holy Eucharist I've seen him there during my visits.. may God bless and protect Mr Lennox he's doing a pretty good job representing the holy Faith around these times ❤
The way I view the difference between Religion and Christianity and religion is that Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with a living GOD. It is not a bunch of rules but a real relationship with a God that has accepted you on the merit of Son the power of His Spirit.
@@mchooksis, atheists (aka: leftists). Which is why they believe in nonsense such as: there are more than 2 genders, all cultures are created equal, the worlds greatest threat is global warming, evil doesn’t exist, etc.
On the cross, God has become a man, Jesus, who has offered himself as a sacrifice for our sins. He who had no sin to atone for, took our place who had sin to atone for. Only the spotless, sinless one had the ability to atone for what we had done. God was just in accepting that sacrifice, that payment for all mans sins, because it was not wiping it away for free, but at His cost.
Genesis is myth.. therefore adam and eve did not exist, therefore NO original sin, therefore NO need for a JC to redeem anyone by an ancient ritual of scapegoating 🙄....QED..
Except Jesus is not a God, idol worshipper, your sins are your own, your atonement theory makes no sense on any level and not in any hypothetical scenario would God have to require or benifit from magical blood sacrifice. And even your own scripture says idolaters have their portion in the lake of fire. What you follow is pure undulaterated satanism.
In scripture all sin is reckoned as a debt , a debt that we owed to the law ; Christ paid our debt and now owns our debt which is why scripture declares we are not our own for we were bought with a price 1Corinthians 6:19,20
Prof. Lennox is an admirable and thoughtful Christian. Nevertheless I cannot help but be curious about how he sees, as a Christian, the genocide currently unfolding in Palestine, or, the devastation incurred in Iraq under false pretense, or, going back further for that matter, the morals of the British Opium wars committed on another country, before he holds and promotes his strong conviction on his 'persecution of the uyghur' belief. I wish Prof. Lennox did not get his strong conviction on the 'uyghur persecution' from the BBC and the like. How much time has Prof. Lennox spent in Xinjiang, or in China, for example? As a Christian myself, I sincerely wish Prof. Lennox the best, because the first loyalty of a Christian is to Truth, not to political ideology, however deeply ingrained. May God Bless you.
What Genocide? Israel told the civilians to move out which is more than the chance given by the Palestinians to the Jews shot at home. Those same Palestinians in the majority voted for Hamas. If you knew your Bible you would know that Isaac and Ishmael would be at war.
agreed... anglos tend to wash away their own sins and magnify others. I actually heard a Muslim say ironically that it's peculiar the west seems to care about Muslims in China (whether the allegations are correct or not) but the west kills far more Muslims than anyone else all around. And that was before even the Gaza war (of course China had terror attacks from extremists too - but somehow that doesn't matter).
Some people think the utility of Christianity is important, and to a degree, I agree. However, I am far more interested in the question is it true, rather than is it useful. I remain unconvinced that it is true.
The utility gives us a type of evidence. Beginning somewhere you must ask God to reveal himself. You give him a tiny drop of faith and he will give you the gift of more faith. This will increase.
@@angelawatkinson245 What type of "evidence" does utility provide? There is utility (to different degrees) in the scriptures of other religions as well as in various works of fiction (both ancient and modern). Aseop's Fables, which predate the Christian scripture would be a good example. Are you arguing that utility implies truth? I suspect that "tiny drop of faith" is simply a euphemism for "accept the proposition without sufficient evidence". Essentially, you're asking me to "believe" something I don't believe because there are not sufficient reasons for me to be convinced. You would definitely NOT accept this line of reasoning from a member of a different religion, so how can you reasonably expect me to accept it from you?
This is an interesting point. William Lane Craig had an interesting conversation with The Cosmic Skeptic on this issue. While the utility or social aspect of Christianity is not direct evidence of it being true, I think the social impact of Christianity shouldn't be overlooked - I would ask, WHY did Christianity have such an impact on our culture and shaped our Western mind? As for truth, I also have an episode with John on 'What is Truth?'.
@@Practical.Wisdom We know why, polytheist. Because Theodosius made Nicene Christianity mandatory Roman law in the Edict of Thessalonica 380 AD. And centuries later Charlemagne would christianize large parts of Western and Central Europe by the sword.
Zachias,was tax collector that Jesus went to his home. The people scorned cs Zachias was thought of as criminal. But because Jesus accepted Zachias, Zachias repented and paid back to the people he had wronged four fold. It says Salvation came that day to his whole household . Jesus offers us Salvation
What leads you to suppose that fatso Lennox could possibly able to be able to be a christian or has any idea what conditions must be satisfied before anyone can lay claim to being able to be able to be a Christian?The pork chop is merely a pseudo scientific uncle Tom?
In the book of Job, satan tells God that if God takes a persons family and money and health then people will turn against God. Job says though he slay me yet will I trust him. True honor for Gods goodness and holiness. mj Fletcher Alpine OR
The dtatistics are flat against you and it is irrelevant how many people self-deludingly lay claim to being christians and those that do lay claimto being christians(which is impossible for willless dreamers) are simply deceiving themselves as is that fat complacent fraud Lennox who could no more be a christian than he could fast for three days; hr is self-deceiving liar and comple fraud.anyone that imagines that being a christian depends on being a good liar and mouthing words understands nothing of the way of christ. it is simply *impossible for a dreaming liar to be able to be able to be a christian, and doubly so if who ever has*absolutely_no* idea what conditions precedent must be satisfied before*anyone* could be able to be able to be a christianand neith you nor the pork chop has any idea what thoe conditions are, be cause*No-one* could possibly discover what the are now that thereis no living tradion of the way of christ, for the simple reason that there is no way of finding out whst conditions must be satisfied before anyone could truthfully lay claimto being able to be able to be a christ whucgh can only possibly mean be ablre to*Live* christ precepts, because there is no way of discovering what they were. for example neither you nor the poerk chop has the slightsest idea of what the method or way of christ consisted -what he prescribed for what, and if you think it was being a good liar and mouthing empty words you are as big a lying fraud as fraud as fatso.Any one that imagines that ll that is required of anyone aspiring to be able ti be able to be achristian is that he mouth the empty words I am a christian ins not just pignorant but a self-decieving fool, samd neither he nor you have the faintrst idea whof what aman must be capable before he cam even hope to be able to be able to be a christian, how could you or the pork chop who are merely self-deceiving dreams ever be capable of impartial live when you have no idea what impartial love is and are incapable of impartial love. the idea that lying self-deceiving self-indulgent dreamers could possibly be capable of imprtial love is simply laughable. if you can fast(eat nothing) for 20 days and can sell*All* that you have a devote the proceeds to those less well off than you, them you -*-might-*--just*might* be able to beable to be a christian, but then you have no idea what the ingredients of being able to be able to be a christian are. Well might you pray(which is merely a genuine and sincwere recogbitonof -*-Need-*- to be able to be ablto be achristian but you woul be wating your time because you have not the faintest idea for exactly what you might be praying. what would be the point of divesting yourself of all your possessions and living a life of absolute poverty that you might be able to have compassion for(which means -*-suffering-*- for and with[experiencing what they experience] the poor the sick hungry and oppressed) when you have -*-absolutely_no-*- idea what that might achieve/?You merely talk the talk, merely*Say* that you are a christian which -*-can_only-*- be a lie when you have not the faintest idea what it might mean to be able to be able to be a christian; it takes monstrous arragance and masive self deceit for anyone to suppose that the are able to beable to be a christian, and doubly so when they have absolutely no idea -*-of_what-*- they must be capable to follow the way of christ - have no idea of what the way of christ consists and you have no idea of what the way of christ consists - of what you muust be capable if youare to folow the way of christ or be able to be able to be a christian, because how could you? You are incapable of Impartial Love, incapable of Will, and cannot even Begin* to be capable of conscious labours and intentional suffering(and have no idea what that means) Pork chop's stomach and swaggering arrogance and complacency give the lie to any claim he might make to being able to be able to be a christian. fFatso is all talk and were you capable of sincerity(which means being truthful -above all with yourself) he would have to confess that he is all talk and no more able to be able to be a christan than he can fast for seven days. fatso and five gives me ten you, is an idolater, or what is called an anthropomorphic Like-us_ian , worships an*Image* of god which (surprises surprise) both is like and looks like fatso - supposes god to be some sort of homunculus or person- like him/ you hence the term anthropomorphic *Like-us_ian* which is pure... induluted.... fcuk-the- commandments idolater.
Only the carrier shell or Ark is different. The template it’s framed on is like anything else from antiquity. It’s just dovetails incredibly well with fearful humans who need ways to not have to see reality.
To improve the efforts of encouraging others… We all are oblivious to: The Affects of Critical Criticism on a perfectly good relationship. Critical Criticism is how we can express ourselves with positive intentions (because we believe we’re being Constructive) to others. Yet somehow our statement results with a negative response. This stimulates a reaction from us… Thus ultimately cutting off the lines of proper communication and closing the window of opportunity. The negative interaction was not simply because others are sensitive and don’t want to listen to anyone tell them what to do or what they should be doing, or what they’re doing wrong. And it’s certainly not because we said what was needed to be said and they just didn’t want to comprehend. The avoidable error is created when we mistake Critical Criticism for Constructive Criticism and then never adjust or correct the poor mentality.
"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." (Revelation 14:9-11)
Believing in God answers very few questions. You have to take the next step and believe in the bible and to me that is a giant step especially when the bible looks like many other books that we know are made by people making up stories, getting many things completely wrong.
@ramigilneas9274 Care to elaborate? Which part is a myth and legend to you - and why would that keep you from the essence of the gospel - that we are all sinners in the presence of a good and Holy God (evidenced by the conscience, morality, the presence of good and evil, objective truth). We can look at the justice system, and realize a criminal is not pardoned for the good works that he has done, for he is being judged for that sin which he has done - the way out is to throw yourself on the mercy of the judge, and Jesus came in as judge and savior, and imparted on himself the penalty of our sins, that we might come back into communion with a good God in spite of our sins, IF we believe in that which Jesus is and what He has done. Don't let something like Jonah or Noah stop you from belief, because in the end, if this is all created, creation itself is a far greater miracle than we could ever understand. Ive always taken it as an act of humble faith to believe those parts of the Bible that seems unbelievable, because in essence, all of reality is that. It is insane that we exist, and that anything in this existence works! Crazy! It all glorifies God in the end!
Are you even serious 🤣 the bible is the biggest work of fiction ever created and as it doesn’t claim to be fiction means it’s the biggest lie. How can you actually take it seriously as an adult.
@@matthewalexander3891what about evolution theory, or is it abiogenesis now? That belief is insane! Everything, all life, all self sustaining systems that make this planet teem with life, all happened by accident!!!
‘What does atheism offer a dying person?’ It seems arrogant to presume ‘a dying person’ needs to be offered anything, other than relieve of pain, for comfort, if required and if possible the presence of non-religious family loved ones. Especially if you have lived a ‘longish’ life. To ‘slip away’ knowing that you’ve contributed what YOU can during your time on earth, is quite enough. If you are aware of loving family members at your side, then what more do you need? Certainly not a guilt/sin ‘obsessed’ priest, or other (Their interference is really for THEIR benefit), poking their nose in, as too many seem entitled to do and are puzzled if their presence is refused. Memories of you may or may not live on in the minds of those you loved, but if you believe that to be probable, then that is more than enough to ‘go quietly into that good night’ (to misquote Dylan Thomas - no need for ‘rage’). Certainly NOT to meet some mythical ‘maker’!
It's an interesting point. Although I wouldn't think the question is offensive in itself, as it refers to the idea that Christianity offers hope to a dying person, the hope that there is something better in the afterlife, which may even bring peace in this life. That is, of course, if you believe there is such a thing as life beyond death. Otherwise, as you say, Christianity doesn't really bring anything to the table. Your answer reminds me of a great book, A Secular Age, by Charles Taylor in which he makes this very point, that our world doesn't really need God anymore because you can accomplish things and feel you had a good and meaningul life without God. So the question is, why would anyone need Jesus Christ, why would anyone need God? The question is then, do we think our accomplishments (whatever that means) are enough for us to find meaning beyond death. And that's actually the subject of my next interview with a UK theologian.
You realize he said a mother who has cancer right? She's going to be worried about her children. Your comment seems to be missing a lot from the points made in the video.
Wow, I love listening to John, but in this video, his answer starting at 29:00, and especially the part about the illustration, blew me away. It’s so profound. I have to listen to it again.
You can stand for something untrue and misleading, if all you do is stand for something without scrutiny. That's what religion is about. Falls apart under scrutiny.
...no doubt, that some very good points have been made. However, the one most difficult question asked over why man suffers, leading many doubt there is a God,...was either skirted around that no one would be offended,...or John has not had it revealed to him yet. Thank you John, for at least your submission to be used to give testimony as you have been.
The singular difference among the many religions is, that Christianity is the ONLY one guaranteeing Hope for Salvation from Hell's certainty, by Faith in the Blood and Resurrection of Jesus Christ...not by one's works. Hallelujah 🙏🙏
But it can't truly guarantee anything and just sounds like a very weird cult. Especially considering you have to believe rather than be a good person. That means evil people can believe and go to heaven, and good people who don't would go to hell. This is disgusting and nothing to be happy about.
@@alenkratohvil6479Not true. Many people believe and won't go to heaven. Satan and his fallen angels believe and won't be saved. Noby is good we all fall short of the glory of God. What you believe about Christianity is false.
@@alenkratohvil6479 Also, people of faith in Jesus must deny themselves from wilfully sinning which doesn't completely happen easily overnight; as well as heed the implanted Holy Spirit in their consciences towards God's Will, instead, as often as humanly possible...God is patient with his children.
@@sally9352 nobody will go to heaven because it doesn't exist. I know very well what christianity is about, although it differs from christian to christian. None of you agree on everything. The God you believe in is man made and absurd.
If we examine the Scriptures we see that the earth is in the grip of a raging war between God and Satan. God cannot destroy Satan summarily because His precious humans are being held hostage. So Christ has to rescue us one at a time.
We'll, you got close at the end there. God is a relationship between three persons that are one. A communion of love. There must be at least an I/Thou for there to be love. The pear Fox of the Trinity ( one God , three persons) is the most pregnant revelation of all in my opinion. Read the first 20 pages of Fr Stephen DeYoung's masterful book, "The Religion of the Apostles"
Flat earthers may be able to cobble together a few biblical texts that APPEAR to give credence to their lunacy, but this doesn’t make them Christians. Satan himself quoted scripture to tempt Jesus into sin. He quoted scripture accurately and in context too! The problem is that he left out the counterbalancing texts which prevent an unbalanced and erroneous understanding of the texts he quoted, which is the exact same mistake that irrational Flat-earthers (who claim to be Christians) do. The texts used by these people do NOT teach that the earth is flat and given that this is a deception, a true Christian who knows and loves the truth as embodied in the person of Jesus Christ, should KNOW the TRUTH and be set free from such lies (see John 8:32) which come from the father of lies. Jesus didn’t say that He wanted us to learn the truth, He said that we WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL MAKE US FREE. He also said that He would send the Holy Spirit, who will teach us all things (John 14;26) and lead us into all truth (John 16:13) It follows from these texts that people who are deceived to such an extent that they can’t read the word of God properly, don’t have the Holy Spirit and therefore cannot be Christians.
Parable of the sower. The enemy planted weeds amongst the wheat. The servants asked should we cut it down? The sower said no, let them grown together until it is time for the harvest. Once harvested the wheat will be separated from the weeds, and the weeds thrown into the fire. This means there has been and will continue to be bad apples screwing up some of the pies ya know? Great video, thank you.
Alahuakbar, god is great by.................. ..... ....definition, because if it were not great it would not be whatever god is that being the word used by common cosmic science for the Megalocosmos.
In answer to the posed question... "Tangibilty, the fact that you're dying, the fact that the experience ceases when you do, just as it did before you"
@@mirandahotspring4019he's a genius, Miranda, so he knows that we should reconcile ourselves to Oblivion. The fact that he can't master basic punctuation is no reason for you to doubt his insight.
@@rickallen9167 I don't disagree with you, I was correcting your English. You're lying, not "your" lying. "you're" is the contraction of you are whereas "your" is the possessive advective meaning belonging to you. Try to remember that and you'll come across a bit smarter in the comments section.
Sad to see Dr. Lennox write off any idea without first considering it (Earth being a level stationary plain). He doesn't seem like he'd be in lock step with "consensus science", but then no one's totally immune to cognitive dissonance.
You know how people say when they are going through hard times that you find out who your true friends are? That is maybe a hint at why God allows suffering. Who is there for you when you have nothing and are broken? They are the few true friends you or I really have. To add to that, Job is a good story to remember. Did he really love God? God made it easy for him because he gave him riches and a big family. But when that was all taken away and his love for God was truly tested, and it was shown to be true. This world is not our final resting place and that is what we should remember when hardship comes our way. It is also why we should put our trust and our Love in God.
The small minded attempts to make big brained demonstrations is truly something to behold by some atheists in this sphere. It has to be childhood trauma
Here is an attempt to demonstrate just a normal sized brain in any case..with a question even a traumatised child could answer... How did the flightless endemic species of Cormorant arrive on the Galapagos Archipelago? Be careful of the trap,...
I don’t determine truth by what it offers me at death. That puts me at the center of my own reality, choosing what reality serves me best. I’d become a Muslim if death benefits determined my truth.
I once heard a story that captures the irony of the 'I don’t believe in God because of suffering' argument, and I think it’s worth sharing. Imagine God hears our complaints and eliminates all our greatest fears: diseases, cancer, wars-you name it. Suddenly, we’re living in a utopia of peace, health, and harmony. But wait! The atheist pipes up: 'How can I believe in a God who lets me experience minor discomforts?' Fine, says God, and poof-no discomforts at all. Now, do you think everyone’s finally satisfied? Of course not! Someone will grumble, 'How can I believe in a God who lets me feel sad sometimes?' So, God waves a divine hand, and voilà, everyone’s eternally happy. No pain, no sadness-just perfect, perpetual bliss. But guess what? Someone will still manage to complain: 'How can I believe in a God who allows water puddles that mess up my shoes? and so on. Enough with the irony, I praise the wonderful answer given by John Lennox. God bless him for what is doing to proclaim the gospel.
Yeah I don't think there are many who "don't believe in god because of the suffering argument". It's much simpler, "don't believe in god because I see no evidence for god".
@@hongotedesco8931 When I see a design, I think of a designer, because I am not as dumb as Dawkins, who says that the universe and life seem designed, but they are not.
@@bhocatbho Sure, and that is a *very* common reaction (ie, things appear designed, therefore designer). But when you look deeper, you realize nope, it can all be explained by Evolution. Understand that this is just a fact, it's not a "debate". Look at this way, 100% of the things we have discovered about the universe have a naturalistic explanation..no god needed. How many things have we discovered that have a supernatural explanation? Zero percent.
The banner on the thumbnail for this video offers the statement 'what does atheism offer when you die'. Well, exactly the same as those that call themselves theists. You close your eyes, strain for that last breath, your mind racing thinking about your loved ones, fear of what is to come as the darkness clouds your mind and body functions come to an end. Atheism provides comfort in knowing you've lived the best life possible, just like theists. The only real difference? theists believe they will have an afterlife if a fictional heaven. Or false hope. NDEs are a bad arguement against this position since, in that case, these people tend to see what fits their belief systems. An atheist generally believes that this is the one life we know for sure that we get. So, they make it a good one (for better or worse). Christians, I'm forgiven my sins on my deathbed if I ask for it. Then, same as atheists.
Not the same at all. I've had stage 4 for 6 years. Still working part time functioning. If I didn't know there is eternal life I would probably be insane by now.
Atheism offers me the fact that this life is all I get. That we are all dying people from the moment of conception. That I need to cherish this life that I know I have instead of pining away for something that is claimed but unsubstantiated in any way, that simply appeals to my mammal existential dread of dying with false promises. Atheism shows me to love everyone as hard as I can NOW. That's real. Which is more than anyone can say about Christianity.
We used to think that everything revolved around Earth, when we found out it wasn't like that, we started to think everything revolved around us. Humans are megalomaniacs, we think we can be the truth of this world, we think we can explain everything using our perception of it, but we are limited. We are no bigger than this world, our ego is big. No human can be the truth, there's only one truth, we didn't create this world and we are too limited to explain it. There's no love outside Jesus. Atheism says you were created for nothing and you live for nothing, no love can be extracted from that. But truth and lies exist, good and bad exist, we all have a moral code inside us and life is bigger than us. I'll never follow another human being like me, because I know the limits of a person. And if a human, limited and imperfect is the lie, only a perfect and limitless being can be the truth.
One way I answer the question of evil and suffering in the world is, by asking the question, what crop is God growing here on this planet, isn’t it our faith and love? And do we remember the parable Jesus told us of the good seed planted and an enemy sowing bad seed, and the solution was to let them grow together, but separating them at harvest? Is evil sometimes a fertilizer to help faith and love grow stronger? Perhaps we don’t understand now, but perhaps later we will understand the brilliance of God?
Prof Lennox equates belief in a flat earth to unbelief in God. But that answer was unsatisfactory. All the ppl I know who are "Flat Earthers" are very committed evangelical Christians...
Same here, and they're very sceptical people. They don't swallow anything hook, line and sinker. They demand evidence from a system that's lied about literally everything. I'm a globe earther who's open to evidence.
@@uncletungsten5253 Most of the ones I've seen cite (erroneously in my view) the Bible. I wasn't making an argument. I was just sharing my observation that flat earth and a biblical worldview aren't mutually exclusive. I LOVE Prof. Lennox. I just disagree.
I appreciate Prof's candid conversation. I respectfully disagree with his ideas of God, and now I wonder the kind of students he had graduated 😮 in mathematics.
You're unfortunately right. The Flatearth community is primarily conservative Christians who have fallen into a conspiracy rabbit hole. Most of Flatearthers also believe that the Moon landing was a hoax, that images of the Earth from space are all CGI, and they'll handwave away any other evidence as they see fit because they've made up their mind about the outcome: it's all a conspiracy and the Earth is flat.
@@Practical.Wisdom The Lord has been teaching me the importance of repentance and hunger for scripture after I gave my life to him a few weeks ago, and your conversation just reiterates this and heartens me further. I grew up in a Christian home and thought I had "belief", but I led a sinful and unhappy life because I tried to do things my way and only take from His Word that which was easy and agreeable to me and the world. Thank you, Lord, for showing the error of my ways, not giving up on me and leading me on this amazing journey. And bless you for your faith and work here. Maranatha!
@@jbut1208 It presents our earth as flat. Rev 21 "I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia in length, and as wide and high as it is long." A structure 1400 miles by 1400 miles square coming down from heaven would be impossible to rest on a globe earth. As we're told even 1000 miles yields 125 miles drop in curvature.
@@daveyofyeshua a more serious answer (and question): isn't the New Jerusalem to be on the New Earth? We don't know anything about the physical design of the New Earth
When you listen to him carefully you realise he doesn't really answer any of the questions. He just waffles on in a way that sounds good but doesn't mean anything
Well, the massive problem a great many people have with God is why he allows so much suffering. His answer to that was pure nothingness. This is the central problem with religion, and he's basically got no answer.
He literally says "the problem of evil is the biggest problem for anyone with any worldview" It's not... You can't blame an atheist for the fact that YOUR all powerful, all loving GOD allows suffering. Sure, the suffering is here all the same, but that's not what "the problem" is that was asked about.
*Atheism,* - A belief that there was once absolutely nothing. And nothing happened to that nothing until the nothing magically exploded (for no reason whatsoever), creating everything and everywhere. Then a bunch of the exploded everything magically rearranged itself (for no reason whatsoever), into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
Not so. Law of contradiction is what you erroneously believe. A is B is an ABSOLUTE FALSE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS. Lets plug data into formula and critically evaluate your deception. A is non conscious non intelligent non being non moral non legal non just caused your A is B illogical impossible contradiction effect of B your conscious intelligent being moral legal and just A is B caterpillar? Only the opposite is ABSOLUTE TRUE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS A law of abiogenesis caused the effect of B law of biogenesis This is A is B an ABSOLUTE FALSE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS never evidenced in nature or labs but in labs all day long A isn't B logical non contradiction ABSOLUTE TRUTH A TRUE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS EVIDENCED IN NATURE AND LABS ALL DAY LONG A is law of abiogenesis causes the logical non contradiction effect of A is law of abiogenesis, A is A period B law of biogenesis causes the logical non contradiction effect of B law of biogenesis These are ABSOLUTE TRUE SCIENTIFIC FACTS. DAH ...😢😂
@@bobwilkinson2008 There are plenty of scientific reasons to believe that Bible narrative is reality and Evolution is not.
For example, the enigma of the molecular machines within cells. These tiny machines, literally built on the scale of atoms, are constructed from the encoding contained in the DNA. Some of these molecular machines are also the things that reads the DNA’s code to construct the other molecular machines and to make copies of the DNA. For a cell to be alive, there has to be a minimum of around 20 different types of these molecular machines, each working in unison to enable the reproduction of the cell, the coping of the DNA and the ability to take in energy and use it. Without this bare minimum, there is no life.
So where did this huge amount of information come from? How did this huge leap happen to go from non-life to life?
@@bobwilkinson2008 So, how do you believe that we went from a state of no life existing to a state where life exists. Don’t say it evolved because evolution can only happen once life exists. Survival of the fittest and all that only works when live exists and does not show how life came into existence.
After we die, an atheist will never know if he is right, but only if he is wrong. Conversely, the Christian will never know he is wrong, but only that he was right. The most rational person will take the second choice as much happier than the first.
Any mindful atheist who strived to genuinely live an impeccable virtuous life the best he/she could , given the knowledge, insight , understanding, and wisdom he/she has at any given time , and led this life with love and kindness , is much better than some religious person doing it bc of reward or punishment from the wrath of god type of mindset (not genuine at all) . Be self responsible and accountable for your choices and actions . You create your own “heaven or hell “ from moment to moment with your thoughts, words and actions in the only like we know we have for certain . And if whatever god there may be keeps you from heaven merely bc the fact that you reject him and hurt his feelings instead of being judged on your conduct , then that god would not be worthy of respect nor worship . Separate the “concept of god” and msn made gods like yaweh and zeus and thor and ra and the other thousands of man made gods
I agree with you that some of our atheist friends who are very decent people may have stronger moral values than some Christians, and live a 'better life' in a sense. But the question remains, why would anyone do what's right and proper, and if we are to live a just life, where do we get that idea from? In other words, what is the basis or the standard for our moral values. Is it just because of our social norms that have evolved over the years in our respective cultures? And most importantly, are our moral values objective?
@@Practical.Wisdom do you agree that all living creatures have an instinct to survive and, in general, “thrive” (in contrast to self destruct) and also the natural instinct to recoil from pain ? Do you prefer well-being to suffering ? Do you prefer happiness to sadness and depression ? Do you prefer comfort to discomfort ? It is certainly conceivable that early hominids as consciousness evolved over time eventually figured out that it is a lot better to cooperate with one another rather than be hit over the head with a club or stoned or lose loved ones in conflict . Perhaps a mutual sense of pain and suffering eventually led to the foundation of rudimentary notion of morality . Who knows 🤷🏼♂️ I can speak for myself at least … I am a sentient being and I know what it feels like to hurt physically and psychologically, I know what it feels to be deceived and lied to , I know what it’s like to suffer etc and I know that I’m not the only human who exists. If “god” is synonymous with nature then great . In fact I’m not to put off by the idea of the deist version of god, that is to say one that set everything in motion billions of yrs ago and then either died, can’t intervene or doesn’t care to . I just reject a personal god , one that hears and answers prayers , intervenes , creates miracles etc . I find no convincing evidence for that . Moreover, what do you have to say about Buddhists and Jains for example , who are amongst the planets most kind compassionate and loving people and who revere the sanctity of life so much so that they walk on cheese cloth to avoid killing insects ? Yet neither Buddhist nor Jains , traditionally speaking , do not believe in a personal god at all. Their motivation is much different. What comes first , god or morality ?
@@Practical.Wisdommonotheism (or an interventionist creator of the universe) was divised by man for the explicit reason of making morality objective. which it clearly is not, it is subjective.
@@Practical.Wisdom "why would anyone do what's right and proper," I cannot believe you even typed this sentence. If you cannot see it for yourself, you are a morally bankrupt person who should stay in church for as long as possible, you deserve each other. Disgusting.
I certainly agree we humans have a capacity for goodness, compassion, love, etc. we also have the capacity for just the opposite. If it’s driven by instinct isn’t just a means for evolution to ensure that the organism survives and replicates. Than all of our experiences are arbitrary dictated by random choices, personal whims and circumstances as our genes strive against one another to replicate.
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Sometimes i think God's silence is necessary to show us what life is without Him.
What total nonsense
@@Lightman741 Do you feel better about yourself now? You don't have to agree but why do you need to be offensive?
@@Dune137 I could argue your case that suffering is needed, in order for us to appreciate god is abhorrent. Stop being so soft
Fortunately I know what life is like without god.... far better than with him
@@truthgiver8286 Which is why He will allow you to spend an eternity without Him.
May I say something about suffering? I'm a woman in the Middle East. I'm familiar with pain and suffering, I know them intimately. The pain and suffering, their intensity and utter hopelessness brought me to Jesus. Had I not been drifting in that pitch black darkness, I could never have seen the light of God. You need to know both. It's like those drawings with charcoal, shadow and light play together to create a beautiful picture. Seems immature to expect only goodness in the world. How would we learn anything then?
Thank you for sharing this wonderful perspective!
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@@Practical.Wisdom Thank you, sir.
amamzing how this god is failing people right now in the middle east. Your lies dont' help.
@@velkyn1 This reminds me of the famous quote: "At Auschwitz, tell me, where was God?"
And the answer: "Where was man?”
― William Styron, Sophie's Choice
I can spend hours and hours watching and listening to John Lennox and I never get tired 👏👏👏
Thank you for your interest!
@@Practical.Wisdom My pleasure . I really enjoy listening to John Lennox , he has a lot of wisdom and he's always very friendly to everyone .
Try listen to my thunder god as well..
Thunder god created Jesus god 7 millions years ago...
@user-ky5dy5hl4d !!!
We need more people from the Academic community to speak out on their faith. If they are believers. It's refreshing to hear highly intelligent men talking about their faith and why they believe. I hope that made sense. Thank you for sharing this video.
Religion is for insecure ppl...if you really need a god , try praying to thunder god, more mightier than Jesus god... All you need is just have faith in thunder god, don't ask questions, just pray to thunder god 12 time a day
@@OppoA16-fz6rp thunder god! Who is that?
@@rodolfosoriano5960Ricardo Kaka
"We" being you, and which, specific identifiable interlocutor?
No academic or intellectual you eh Elsie?
You have *Absolutely_No* idea what faith Is and even les of an idea that it is the *Exact_Opposite of that weakness and stupefying factor belief, which is a form of dreaming They two are as alike as butcher's cleaver is*like* a surgeon's scalpel.
Foth has *Fuck_Nothing* to do with believing or belief they are *Exact_Opposites*, but you simply *cannot* understand that any more than a did could understand it, can you?
*That you are about to demonstrate as you demonstrate your complete innocence of any sort of intellectual ability or accomplishment.
Help me with this please: What exactly do you suppose yourself to be doing when you " *believe*", and do you understand that faith and belief are*exact_opposites*? and that faith has *absolutely_nothing* to do with belief?
However I have the uneasy suspicion that I would be better-or as well, off addressing a dog, but give it your best shot and surprise me, you that are entirely innocent of any sort of intellectual accomplishment or acuity, are you not?
The most underrated thing about John Lennox is his humility. So much respect for him!
My respect for this man is ever growing, every single video I have seen him speak on Christ is totally refreshing and I wish all people had the ability to speak so intellectually clear and straight forward! May the lord bless you ❤
Thank you for your kind words! It's truly heartening to see the profound impact John's work is having on so many people.
John 7:18
18 Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.
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John Lennox's closing statement on Christianity was just WOW! That is why I am a Christian too!!!
If you suppose that pork chop Lennox could possibly be able to be able to be a christian, you clearly have no idea of what the way of christ consists and no more does the smug arrogant porkchop that supposes that the sun shines out of his own arse
Christianity is not a religion it is a relationship with God through Our Savor Lord Jesus Christ
All religions but one are Satanic works of fiction. The only religion that God recognises is charity, James 1:27. True Christianity, on the other hand, isn't a religion but a way of life founded on the belief in and the teachings of Jesus Christ which lead to eternal life, John 3:16. True Christianity is love, 1 Corinthians 16:14.
Amen!
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It is a religion, considering it's a system of belief
@@Libeth-97 Jesus literally taught against the religious leaders during His time on earth.
Christianity is a religion in that anyone is welcome to leave the faith in peace, versus a cult, whereby people are not welcome to leave in peace.
However, the truest form of Christianity is following Jesus, exactly as He asked people to do.
May the peace of The Lord be with you, in Jesus’ name. Amen.
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@@s.d.melcher like what you said against religious leaders and the wrong religion
I now understand John Lennox's passion in defending Christianity.
I can't think why fatso might defend christianity when he is no more able to be able to be a christian than you are and has no better or worse idea of what it might mean to be a christian than you do, neither of you having the ingredients or any idea what conditions must be satisfied before anyone can even begin to be able to be able to be a christian and neither you nor he nor anyone has any idea what they might be, which is why there*Are_No* christians
Thanks God for John Lennox. He's a good representative of Christian faith.
What makes you ssuppose that the pork chop understands anything of christianity when he is no christian because he could no more be a christian that you I orany dreaming machine, and like you or I could not be christuanymore than he could fast for eve seven days; the smug pork chop is a fraud. I'm never sure what those that chuck the word'god'about like confetti mean by it and whenever I ask them they make it more than obvious that they have not the faintest idea whattheyymean byy the silly word, exactly as you don't titch.
You simply*cannot* define'god without resort to cngonates synonyms desciptions(and of course not) examples and other forms of circularity or begging the question or x=y=x where neither x nor y are defined or ascribed a value because god is just some vague dreamy idea that *some_else* put into diddum's head,so it is somene_elses* idea not diddum's who is just the passive recepracle of someone else's shit- a sort of organic walking chattering bog or lavatory and what the word actually*means* diddums has not the faintest idea. and that titch you are about to demonstrate why the fcuk anyone supposes that Christianity has anything to do with the god fantasy is anyone's guess, because it is not a word that a Jew is allowed to use thus jesus christ*Never* used the word god for obvious reasons and if ever anyone suffered in translation it is that poor fcuk, who picked a *very* queer way of committing suicide indeed.
As a fellow Irishman and Catholic, I wish John the best of Health and the blessings of the Lord.
I love listening to this gentleman he makes everything so clear. I could listen to him for hours. I find myself looking for the next video and the next one!!
We all love him..he is so sweet, gentle, kind and you just want to hug him…thank you Father for sending us John…what a blessing…we love you Father…
I'd rather suffer knowing that there is God, than suffer without God.
Wowwww so well said !! Making it so logical to accept Jesus from our birth!! Holy Spirit is talking through this humble man!!
Pah! The pork chop humble?!! if fatso got any more smug complacent and arogant he would explode; there never was a man with a higher opinion of himself than porkchop Lennox, who plainly thinks that the sun shines out of his own arse.
From where do you get such meaningless mantras as "accept accept Jesus from our birth"?
I don’t know if it has escaped you attention as has the detail of the way of Christ, but Jesus was-for himself destroyed forever some thousands of years ago and is thus very dead indeed
Man hat says "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon theworld,t hey do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth:
fire, sword, war, for there will be five in a house: there'll be three against
two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone,” could well bring a teaching so hard and austere that by comparison pathetic bleating about” accepting jesus which is precisely the sort of sloppy sentimental bulllshit, that such a man who went out of his way to warn those attracted by his reaching how expensive it was in terms of sacrificing vacuous dreams about nonsense like accepting Jesus into our hearts which is simply sloppy sentimental pap!
logic calls for valid premises and a valid conclusion not sloppy sentimental and utterly meaningless bleating.
The idea that the swaggering complacent Lennox could possibly be able to be able to follow the way of Christ is simply absurd.
Logic? where are the premises and what is the inclusion that the premises force?
what the fcuk does "let jesus into our hearts*Mean*, over and above being sloppy sentimental bullshit?
its just the sort of weakling nonsense, that sentimental weaklings tend to bleat-It's not supposed to*Mean* anything?
No surprises there.
My Mum was nurse in British hospital in India during World war 2, the Surgeon General of hospital, Always said prayers to God before he performed the operstions on people.
And I can guarantee he had no more success than another surgeon who did not pray.
and?... guessing lots died inspite of the utterances to santa in the sky...
Did he view the colonized Indians as equal??? think on that and then you will see why places like India don't care for Christianity. And I say this as a Christian myself.
Well that proves it then
for sure these people are beyond delusional @@1414141x
Golden wisdom from John Lennox. Great awesome answers of those familiar questions of our faith. With some humor along. Jesus bless us all our journeys.🥰✝️🙏💞
Why did God not intervene with the suffering in this broken world? Actually, He will! I look forward to the day when God will console his people who have endured suffering and that there will be no more death, sadness, crying, or anguish because God will wipe every tear from our eyes. Herein is the utmost goodness that God possesses!
Suffering is intrinsically good, apart from the hope of ultimate restitution. Just look at the people who've always had it easy and compare them to those who went through horrible times.
You illustrate the concomitant confusion that inevitablt accompanies idolatry which is why that latter is forbidden by whichever section it is of the tencommandments commanment(as amended by the ten commandments(miscellaneous amendments)commandment to be found in the book of Makeitupasyougoalong in the jewbook which - being a devout religious Jew, you suppose to have some magic..
You*are* a Jew as I am, are you not?
Lucky old you.
what the fcuk is god?
You have *Absolutely_No* idea?
That you are about to demonstrate.
The amusing thing is that nearly all their orisons of men(human beings/dreaming machines) boil down to "Please make it that the sum of two and two be *not* four or that- which- is - and -cannot- be different different.
In the imortal words of Eliot: " humankind cannot bear very much reality"
Quite how and why rthe smug pork chop imagines that he might be or even might be*able* to be a christian when he plainly is not and s*simply_cannot* be anything of the sort is anybody's guess, but then men(human beings/sreaming machines are inveterate dreamers liars and self-deceivers,and the worst and most stupfying form of dreaming is *believing*which has*Fcuk_Nothing* to do with faith which is a very subtle psychological skill, so it osnot*not* for dreaming halfwits.
There’s just no curing you anthropomorphic idolaters of your fcuk-the commandments idolatry is there?
Thank you so much for sharing this absolutely wonderful conversation! I can only confirm what Professor John Lennox said about Germany: look at what is happening right now in this country! It’s so sad … One can only cry 😢 😢😢
Anyway, I would like to express once again my sincere gratitude for sharing this interview on this channel! 💐💐💐
May God bless you all!
Amen ✝
Kind regards,
Anna
Thank you for the kind words! John loves Germany and has visited the GDR numerous times.
@@Practical.Wisdom Thank you ☺
This was a really great discussion, thanks for posting it!
I’m sad to see so much hate in the comments but I’m sure the points made have to get those searching for the truth thinking seriously.
Thanks for your interest! It's good to know, on the other hand, that we're not just preaching to the choir and people on the other side of the debate engage with this type of content.
Thank you so much for these videos; I watch them over and over until I have them memorized. God bless you, always.
Glad you like them!
The only major religion that insisted the earth is a sphere all through the middle ages Wass Christianity. Christian kings held a sphere with a cross on it because the Bible is clear the earth is a sphere which rotates on it's own axis. The Galileo incident didn't happen as taught today.
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John can't use a simple chalkboard and demo an A is B, ILLOGICAL IMPOSSIBLE CONTRADICTION. A ABSOLUTE FALSE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS. Lets plug data into formula and critically evaluate result.
Only the opposite hypothesis can be ABSOLUTE TRUTH. A isn't B law of non contradiction
A is B?
A non conscious non intelligent non being non moral non legal non just caused the A is B illogical impossible contradiction effect of
B your conscious intelligent being, moral legal and just
This is an ABSOLUTE FALSE FACT, an ABSOLUTE ILLOGICAL IMPOSSIBLE CONTRADICTION never evidenced in nature or labs.
Because you don't think hard enough...
Thanks for sharing what you went through and perspective. I would also like to share my observations of many people including myself that led me to similar perspective. That is often it’s only through suffering that we would even think of God; at least they make us ask if there is a God or his existence. Otherwise in our busy lives chasing after the pleasures of life/ wealth/fame….etc, we wouldn’t give a hoot who God is or if even exist. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against going after our dreams in this world but….sufferings do make us think God, at least to ask if he exists cos we hate sufferings
This is magnificent! So many practical examples of how to explain Christianity to others. I feel like I have been rebooted in my faith by the truth I just listened to! 🙌🏼
I'm thrilled to hear you found this message inspiring!
Hahaha, you need to have the Courage to ask yourself hard n honest questions... Otherwise..
You tube should give us more of John Lennox❤
They do…keep searching…he is still doing shows as recent as 2 months ago…
Why do you think Cristianity is on the decline in Europe? Great answer by Professor Lennox.
Another thing I want to point out is the rise of bolshevism or neo bolshevism as I'd like to call it, in Western Europe, even though the example of bolshevik terror, pain and suffering in the Eastern Europe is right there for evereyone to see and the memories are still very much alive. I'm Albanian by the way and even though I was a kid in the 80s I remember pretty much everything. It goes to show you how stupid the human pcyche in the Western Europe it actually is. Gold fish intelligence. The same thing goes to us in the Eastern Europe I guess, for adopting bolshevism in the 1940s, when the example of Stalin's death and destruction was out in the open.
Bless you Professor Lennox!!! Keep up the good work!
Whatever whoever supposes christianity to be, it was replaced in Europe and most of the sort-of english speaking world by that queer religion modernism that is a sub-religion of the religion Marxism as a direct result of the inevitable collapse of the big business pseudo christianity Ltd to say nothing of several bouts of mas psychosis; it is no longer fashionable to claim to be christian(which is of course impossible for dreamers)
Dude hearing John Lennox talk about angels is inspiring.
The book of Job would give another beautiful understanding
What a wonderful closing speech, Thank you Dr John Lennon❤️🙏🏻
Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world. (James 1:27 ESV)
Thank you for sharing your Christian faith with such humility
'Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will acknowledge before my Father in heaven' Mt 10: 32-33
The one who says, “Love your enemies” is definitely a God, because enemies are God’s creation as well, and we have not heard of any other religion that says, “Love your enemies.” If these words were applied to people, evil would be eliminated from the earth. This is what makes Christianity, which is an extension of Judaism, a unique religion.
Buddhism says love your enemies.
@StudentDad-mc3pu not really. Buddhism teaches not to love, because from love comes worry and fear.
Why don't Christians love Satan then ?
What the fcuk is god?
You have not the faintest idea?
This you are about to demonstrate
hahhahahahhah, you don't call people who you love, enemy. If it is the other way around and they are your enemies first and than you try to love them, will they love you back, if they not, is it realistic to actually love them? Surely somewhere within you, you will surely be wary of them if they do something to hurt you again even if you seriously fucking love them although that is out of option. I think logically we can understand that one can forgive their enemies to save themself from the mental trauma, that is psychologically true as well.
Forgive but never forget or you'll collapse again.
This is just so wonderful. Thank you
Wow, what a prince the crafting of God has allowed John Lennex to become. May God preserve, lengthen and ever widen your sterling living witness and logic for years to come.
I am Romanian and I concur 100%
Thank you for your interest!
Very inspiring to all spiritual persons who are studying further!
not really
"Christianity does not Compete with any other Religion, because Jesus offers me what No other Religion offers me. Nobody else offers Forgiveness & Love on such terms & a relatonship" ❤❤❤
And that's great...but that doesn't make it true.
@hongotedesco8931 ACCEPTANCE
31:35 “Acceptance” (from God) happens at the beginning “. I’ll use this from hereon
If only you could set out what god is or define whattever it is *without*resort to cognates and synonyms or other forms of circularity, but you are about to demonstrate that you simply cannot, by signally failing to do so, because you neither have the faintestidea what you mean by god nor what the word conveys to you, nor what you seek to convy when you use the word, because you have *Absolutely_No*idea what whatever you mean by'god is, and that you will demonstrate. Rember the rule no circularity or cognates or synonyms or psychological albra of the sort x-y=x, where neither x nor y is defined or given a value.
you*will* demonstrate that because like many of the words you use you have *no* clear idea what it means and cannot set out what it means without resort to circularity or begging the question.
You*will* not et out what it is set out what it means without resort to circularity or begging the question, because you simply cannot, and that you are about to demonstrate.
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lennox - 'because we know about god'
see what he did there ! so clever
Brilliant!!😊. Thank you so much.
Flat earth theory is not believing, but quite the opposite, we’re being lied to about everything, some people just choose to go with their own eyes and senses rather than governments telling what to believe in.
Omg are you a flat earther out here in the wild!? 😅
People wish to remain ignorance many times in the Bible scriptures say that the Earth stands on foundations and is on unmovable has 4 corners. It’s very clear in the book of Enoch especially NASA is just a lie the letter T when they say minus T and counting. Rearrange the letters with the letter T and you have Satan.
NASA minus T and counting rearranged the letters Satan
@@jasonroberts9788 flat earther is not the believe on a flat surface, like a table, we have been lied to so much on everything, still, im sure you buy into the moon landing, many questions but hey was on tv must be true. do you believe the earth is spinning wild with the other planets thru "space" but the stars still keep same orientation?.... just that one questions boggles logic, there is more to creation that tv talking heads,bankes ans politicians which benefit of normies to buy into the stories on tv and news.
@@jasonroberts9788 I am too. Space is a lie.
Jesus Christ is active from heaven to earth, he has not left us, he's always present in the holy Eucharist I've seen him there during my visits.. may God bless and protect Mr Lennox he's doing a pretty good job representing the holy Faith around these times ❤
The way I view the difference between Religion and Christianity and religion is that Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with a living GOD. It is not a bunch of rules but a real relationship with a God that has accepted you on the merit of Son the power of His Spirit.
Chesterton: If you don't believe in anything, you will fall for everything. Amen
Peggy. Who are you saying doesn't believe in anything? Please expand.
@@mchooksis, atheists (aka: leftists). Which is why they believe in nonsense such as: there are more than 2 genders, all cultures are created equal, the worlds greatest threat is global warming, evil doesn’t exist, etc.
if you believe in anything, you absolutely will fall for something.
I believe religion is fake - and that really helps me not fall for it.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Religion and belief in God aren't necessarily the same thing.
On the cross, God has become a man, Jesus, who has offered himself as a sacrifice for our sins. He who had no sin to atone for, took our place who had sin to atone for. Only the spotless, sinless one had the ability to atone for what we had done. God was just in accepting that sacrifice, that payment for all mans sins, because it was not wiping it away for free, but at His cost.
God sent himself to sacrifice himself to himself to atone mankind for the sins he created. Yeah, that makes sense, to an idiot!
Genesis is myth.. therefore adam and eve did not exist, therefore NO original sin, therefore NO need for a JC to redeem anyone by an ancient ritual of scapegoating 🙄....QED..
Except Jesus is not a God, idol worshipper, your sins are your own, your atonement theory makes no sense on any level and not in any hypothetical scenario would God have to require or benifit from magical blood sacrifice. And even your own scripture says idolaters have their portion in the lake of fire. What you follow is pure undulaterated satanism.
In scripture all sin is reckoned as a debt , a debt that we owed to the law ; Christ paid our debt and now owns our debt which is why scripture declares we are not our own for we were bought with a price 1Corinthians 6:19,20
@@NevilleBillett Gentiles were never under the Mosaic law, your sins are your own, Paul was a false apostle and you follow a false religion.
Prof. Lennox is an admirable and thoughtful Christian. Nevertheless I cannot help but be curious about how he sees, as a Christian, the genocide currently unfolding in Palestine, or, the devastation incurred in Iraq under false pretense, or, going back further for that matter, the morals of the British Opium wars committed on another country, before he holds and promotes his strong conviction on his 'persecution of the uyghur' belief. I wish Prof. Lennox did not get his strong conviction on the 'uyghur persecution' from the BBC and the like. How much time has Prof. Lennox spent in Xinjiang, or in China, for example? As a Christian myself, I sincerely wish Prof. Lennox the best, because the first loyalty of a Christian is to Truth, not to political ideology, however deeply ingrained. May God Bless you.
What Genocide? Israel told the civilians to move out which is more than the chance given by the Palestinians to the Jews shot at home. Those same Palestinians in the majority voted for Hamas. If you knew your Bible you would know that Isaac and Ishmael would be at war.
agreed... anglos tend to wash away their own sins and magnify others. I actually heard a Muslim say ironically that it's peculiar the west seems to care about Muslims in China (whether the allegations are correct or not) but the west kills far more Muslims than anyone else all around. And that was before even the Gaza war (of course China had terror attacks from extremists too - but somehow that doesn't matter).
How is it genocide and no one says that about Ukraine? Isr uses no knock boms
The war ends the minute they get the hostages back
Some people think the utility of Christianity is important, and to a degree, I agree. However, I am far more interested in the question is it true, rather than is it useful. I remain unconvinced that it is true.
The utility gives us a type of evidence. Beginning somewhere you must ask God to reveal himself. You give him a tiny drop of faith and he will give you the gift of more faith. This will increase.
@@angelawatkinson245 What type of "evidence" does utility provide? There is utility (to different degrees) in the scriptures of other religions as well as in various works of fiction (both ancient and modern). Aseop's Fables, which predate the Christian scripture would be a good example. Are you arguing that utility implies truth?
I suspect that "tiny drop of faith" is simply a euphemism for "accept the proposition without sufficient evidence". Essentially, you're asking me to "believe" something I don't believe because there are not sufficient reasons for me to be convinced. You would definitely NOT accept this line of reasoning from a member of a different religion, so how can you reasonably expect me to accept it from you?
@@angelawatkinson245What would you know about that? Are you a prophet? And which God did you have in mind?
This is an interesting point. William Lane Craig had an interesting conversation with The Cosmic Skeptic on this issue. While the utility or social aspect of Christianity is not direct evidence of it being true, I think the social impact of Christianity shouldn't be overlooked - I would ask, WHY did Christianity have such an impact on our culture and shaped our Western mind? As for truth, I also have an episode with John on 'What is Truth?'.
@@Practical.Wisdom We know why, polytheist. Because Theodosius made Nicene Christianity mandatory Roman law in the Edict of Thessalonica 380 AD. And centuries later Charlemagne would christianize large parts of Western and Central Europe by the sword.
Beautiful ending ❤
"I was poisoned by the secret police", the host laughs out loud! Priceless.
I wish you were in the United States. We are starved to hear the truth in the way you explain it …….I’m forever changed 🙏🏻
Ethiopian and Eritrean Christian experience is similar to ithe Romanian experience pre and post Cold War period.
Zachias,was tax collector that Jesus went to his home. The people scorned cs Zachias was thought of as criminal. But because Jesus accepted Zachias, Zachias repented and paid back to the people he had wronged four fold. It says Salvation came that day to his whole household . Jesus offers us Salvation
baloney
Bologna is a cold cut not an argument.
Appreciate John Lennox
no thanks. He isnt much of a thinker.
John Lennox is an amazing Christian genius.
Agreed 💯
What leads you to suppose that fatso Lennox could possibly able to be able to be a christian or has any idea what conditions must be satisfied before anyone can lay claim to being able to be able to be a Christian?The pork chop is merely a pseudo scientific uncle Tom?
The only Christian genius since the Reformation is Karl Barth
In the book of Job, satan tells God that if God takes a persons family and money and health then people will turn against God. Job says though he slay me yet will I trust him. True honor for Gods goodness and holiness. mj Fletcher Alpine OR
So many are giving up in hopeless atheism for Jesus Christ .. love it!
We are down to less than 3% of people who go to church. Christianity is all but over.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Exactly. Let's move on without the shackles of supernatural nonsense
It's actually going in the opposite direction. Non believers are the fastest growing and now equal evangelicals and white catholics combined
The dtatistics are flat against you and it is irrelevant how many people self-deludingly lay claim to being christians and those that do lay claimto being christians(which is impossible for willless dreamers) are simply deceiving themselves as is that fat complacent fraud Lennox who could no more be a christian than he could fast for three days; hr is self-deceiving liar and comple fraud.anyone that imagines that being a christian depends on being a good liar and mouthing words understands nothing of the way of christ. it is simply *impossible for a dreaming liar to be able to be able to be a christian, and doubly so if who ever has*absolutely_no* idea what conditions precedent must be satisfied before*anyone* could be able to be able to be a christianand neith you nor the pork chop has any idea what thoe conditions are, be cause*No-one* could possibly discover what the are now that thereis no living tradion of the way of christ, for the simple reason that there is no way of finding out whst conditions must be satisfied before anyone could truthfully lay claimto being able to be able to be a christ whucgh can only possibly mean be ablre to*Live* christ precepts, because there is no way of discovering what they were. for example neither you nor the poerk chop has the slightsest idea of what the method or way of christ consisted -what he prescribed for what, and if you think it was being a good liar and mouthing empty words you are as big a lying fraud as fraud as fatso.Any one that imagines that ll that is required of anyone aspiring to be able ti be able to be achristian is that he mouth the empty words I am a christian ins not just pignorant but a self-decieving fool, samd neither he nor you have the faintrst idea whof what aman must be capable before he cam even hope to be able to be able to be a christian, how could you or the pork chop who are merely self-deceiving dreams ever be capable of impartial live when you have no idea what impartial love is and are incapable of impartial love. the idea that lying self-deceiving self-indulgent dreamers could possibly be capable of imprtial love is simply laughable. if you can fast(eat nothing) for 20 days and can sell*All* that you have a devote the proceeds to those less well off than you, them you -*-might-*--just*might* be able to beable to be a christian, but then you have no idea what the ingredients of being able to be able to be a christian are. Well might you pray(which is merely a genuine and sincwere recogbitonof -*-Need-*- to be able to be ablto be achristian but you woul be wating your time because you have not the faintest idea for exactly what you might be praying. what would be the point of divesting yourself of all your possessions and living a life of absolute poverty that you might be able to have compassion for(which means -*-suffering-*- for and with[experiencing what they experience] the poor the sick hungry and oppressed) when you have -*-absolutely_no-*- idea what that might achieve/?You merely talk the talk, merely*Say* that you are a christian which -*-can_only-*- be a lie when you have not the faintest idea what it might mean to be able to be able to be a christian; it takes monstrous arragance and masive self deceit for anyone to suppose that the are able to beable to be a christian, and doubly so when they have absolutely no idea -*-of_what-*- they must be capable to follow the way of christ - have no idea of what the way of christ consists and you have no idea of what the way of christ consists - of what you muust be capable if youare to folow the way of christ or be able to be able to be a christian, because how could you? You are incapable of Impartial Love, incapable of Will, and cannot even Begin* to be capable of conscious labours and intentional suffering(and have no idea what that means) Pork chop's stomach and swaggering arrogance and complacency give the lie to any claim he might make to being able to be able to be a christian. fFatso is all talk and were you capable of sincerity(which means being truthful -above all with yourself) he would have to confess that he is all talk and no more able to be able to be a christan than he can fast for seven days. fatso and five gives me ten you, is an idolater, or what is called an anthropomorphic Like-us_ian , worships an*Image* of god which (surprises surprise) both is like and looks like fatso - supposes god to be some sort of homunculus or person- like him/ you hence the term anthropomorphic *Like-us_ian* which is pure... induluted.... fcuk-the- commandments idolater.
Only the carrier shell or Ark is different. The template it’s framed on is like anything else from antiquity. It’s just dovetails incredibly well with fearful humans who need ways to not have to see reality.
Thank you for sharing!
To improve the efforts of encouraging others…
We all are oblivious to: The Affects of Critical Criticism on a perfectly good relationship.
Critical Criticism is how we can express ourselves with positive intentions (because we believe we’re being Constructive) to others. Yet somehow our statement results with a negative response. This stimulates a reaction from us… Thus ultimately cutting off the lines of proper communication and closing the window of opportunity.
The negative interaction was not simply because others are sensitive and don’t want to listen to anyone tell them what to do or what they should be doing, or what they’re doing wrong. And it’s certainly not because we said what was needed to be said and they just didn’t want to comprehend.
The avoidable error is created when we mistake Critical Criticism for Constructive Criticism and then never adjust or correct the poor mentality.
Love this guy 👍 Mr. Lennox
Good Morning
Thank You for the platform time and effort. Keep up the Good Work.
🙏🏾💓🙌🏾
Prof John Lennox for Education Minister, to get rid of filth they put in the schools.
God bless Prof Lennox
NO thanks.
"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." (Revelation 14:9-11)
If you want to anger a Atheist lie to him , if you want to anger a Theist tell him the truth
There are real extraterrestrials and there are false extraterrestrials. These guys think they believe in the real alien.
Because we have more evidence than you do for ET
@ Delusional
following Christ and God is not a religion it is the truth. Religions are devised by man to make God's laws easier to break.
Believing in God answers very few questions. You have to take the next step and believe in the bible and to me that is a giant step especially when the bible looks like many other books that we know are made by people making up stories, getting many things completely wrong.
The other books are made up, the bible is not?
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The Bible mostly consists of myths and legends.
@ramigilneas9274 Care to elaborate? Which part is a myth and legend to you - and why would that keep you from the essence of the gospel - that we are all sinners in the presence of a good and Holy God (evidenced by the conscience, morality, the presence of good and evil, objective truth). We can look at the justice system, and realize a criminal is not pardoned for the good works that he has done, for he is being judged for that sin which he has done - the way out is to throw yourself on the mercy of the judge, and Jesus came in as judge and savior, and imparted on himself the penalty of our sins, that we might come back into communion with a good God in spite of our sins, IF we believe in that which Jesus is and what He has done. Don't let something like Jonah or Noah stop you from belief, because in the end, if this is all created, creation itself is a far greater miracle than we could ever understand. Ive always taken it as an act of humble faith to believe those parts of the Bible that seems unbelievable, because in essence, all of reality is that. It is insane that we exist, and that anything in this existence works! Crazy! It all glorifies God in the end!
Are you even serious 🤣 the bible is the biggest work of fiction ever created and as it doesn’t claim to be fiction means it’s the biggest lie. How can you actually take it seriously as an adult.
@@matthewalexander3891what about evolution theory, or is it abiogenesis now? That belief is insane! Everything, all life, all self sustaining systems that make this planet teem with life, all happened by accident!!!
‘What does atheism offer a dying person?’
It seems arrogant to presume ‘a dying person’ needs to be offered anything, other than relieve of pain, for comfort, if required and if possible the presence of non-religious family loved ones. Especially if you have lived a ‘longish’ life.
To ‘slip away’ knowing that you’ve contributed what YOU can during your time on earth, is quite enough. If you are aware of loving family members at your side, then what more do you need? Certainly not a guilt/sin ‘obsessed’ priest, or other (Their interference is really for THEIR benefit), poking their nose in, as too many seem entitled to do and are puzzled if their presence is refused.
Memories of you may or may not live on in the minds of those you loved, but if you believe that to be probable, then that is more than enough to ‘go quietly into that good night’ (to misquote Dylan Thomas - no need for ‘rage’). Certainly NOT to meet some mythical ‘maker’!
It's an interesting point. Although I wouldn't think the question is offensive in itself, as it refers to the idea that Christianity offers hope to a dying person, the hope that there is something better in the afterlife, which may even bring peace in this life. That is, of course, if you believe there is such a thing as life beyond death. Otherwise, as you say, Christianity doesn't really bring anything to the table. Your answer reminds me of a great book, A Secular Age, by Charles Taylor in which he makes this very point, that our world doesn't really need God anymore because you can accomplish things and feel you had a good and meaningul life without God. So the question is, why would anyone need Jesus Christ, why would anyone need God? The question is then, do we think our accomplishments (whatever that means) are enough for us to find meaning beyond death. And that's actually the subject of my next interview with a UK theologian.
You realize he said a mother who has cancer right? She's going to be worried about her children. Your comment seems to be missing a lot from the points made in the video.
I have stage 4 cancer and I assure you that knowing my accomplishments live on is no comfort.
I need to know I will go to heaven
Thank you so much John Lennox
A senile old man afraid of losing his marbles
Religion is bonkers with absolutely no credible empirical evidence
Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence
Religion is the cause of so much suffering
The Christian God is an Awful Character
Wow, I love listening to John, but in this video, his answer starting at 29:00, and especially the part about the illustration, blew me away. It’s so profound. I have to listen to it again.
If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything!
You can stand for something untrue and misleading, if all you do is stand for something without scrutiny. That's what religion is about. Falls apart under scrutiny.
@@alenkratohvil6479 Religion falls apart under scrutiny? Demonstrate for us how Christianity "falls apart" under scrutiny.
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They never have an answer. They never even watch the videos! They just like to try to shake the faith of others!
@@grantsmythe8625 yes, it does, and you can watch debate after debate demonstrating that. Demonstrate that it doesn't.
@@alenkratohvil6479 Show us. We won't accept diversions and distractions. If that's all you have, don't bother replying.
...no doubt, that some very good points have been made.
However, the one most difficult question asked over why man suffers, leading many doubt there is a God,...was either skirted around that no one would be offended,...or John has not had it revealed to him yet.
Thank you John, for at least your submission to be used to give testimony as you have been.
The singular difference among the many religions is, that Christianity is the ONLY one guaranteeing Hope for Salvation from Hell's certainty, by Faith in the Blood and Resurrection of Jesus Christ...not by one's works. Hallelujah 🙏🙏
But it can't truly guarantee anything and just sounds like a very weird cult. Especially considering you have to believe rather than be a good person. That means evil people can believe and go to heaven, and good people who don't would go to hell. This is disgusting and nothing to be happy about.
@@alenkratohvil6479
Music to my ears. Well said.
@@alenkratohvil6479Not true. Many people believe and won't go to heaven. Satan and his fallen angels believe and won't be saved. Noby is good we all fall short of the glory of God. What you believe about Christianity is false.
@@alenkratohvil6479 Also, people of faith in Jesus must deny themselves from wilfully sinning which doesn't completely happen easily overnight; as well as heed the implanted Holy Spirit in their consciences towards God's Will, instead, as often as humanly possible...God is patient with his children.
@@sally9352 nobody will go to heaven because it doesn't exist. I know very well what christianity is about, although it differs from christian to christian. None of you agree on everything. The God you believe in is man made and absurd.
If we examine the Scriptures we see that the earth is in the grip of a raging war between God and Satan. God cannot destroy Satan summarily because His precious humans are being held hostage. So Christ has to rescue us one at a time.
I'm a big fan of John Lennox :)
Why ?
@@1414141x A smart man, he makes my faith even stronger.
We'll, you got close at the end there. God is a relationship between three persons that are one. A communion of love. There must be at least an I/Thou for there to be love. The pear Fox of the Trinity ( one God , three persons) is the most pregnant revelation of all in my opinion. Read the first 20 pages of Fr Stephen DeYoung's masterful book, "The Religion of the Apostles"
I wonder if John Lennox is aware of flat earthers being mostly Christian.. or that it’s biblically accurate.
John seems far more aware than you, mate! After all he is far smarter! He is a professor at Oxford!
Flat earthers may be able to cobble together a few biblical texts that APPEAR to give credence to their lunacy, but this doesn’t make them Christians. Satan himself quoted scripture to tempt Jesus into sin. He quoted scripture accurately and in context too! The problem is that he left out the counterbalancing texts which prevent an unbalanced and erroneous understanding of the texts he quoted, which is the exact same mistake that irrational Flat-earthers (who claim to be Christians) do.
The texts used by these people do NOT teach that the earth is flat and given that this is a deception, a true Christian who knows and loves the truth as embodied in the person of Jesus Christ, should KNOW the TRUTH and be set free from such lies (see John 8:32) which come from the father of lies.
Jesus didn’t say that He wanted us to learn the truth, He said that we WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL MAKE US FREE.
He also said that He would send the Holy Spirit, who will teach us all things (John 14;26) and lead us into all truth (John 16:13)
It follows from these texts that people who are deceived to such an extent that they can’t read the word of God properly, don’t have the Holy Spirit and therefore cannot be Christians.
There’s nothing biblically accurate about flat earthers!
@@jbut1208the bloke's a mathematician, and his metaphysics are complete rubbish
Yep, the Bible describes a flat earth.
Parable of the sower. The enemy planted weeds amongst the wheat. The servants asked should we cut it down? The sower said no, let them grown together until it is time for the harvest. Once harvested the wheat will be separated from the weeds, and the weeds thrown into the fire. This means there has been and will continue to be bad apples screwing up some of the pies ya know? Great video, thank you.
Oh, sing my heart! Hallelujah!
Alahuakbar, god is great by..................
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....definition, because if it were not great it would not be whatever god is that being the word used by common cosmic science for the Megalocosmos.
In answer to the posed question...
"Tangibilty, the fact that you're dying, the fact that the experience ceases when you do, just as it did before you"
"you're dying"
@@mirandahotspring4019and your lying to yourself
@@mirandahotspring4019he's a genius, Miranda, so he knows that we should reconcile ourselves to Oblivion. The fact that he can't master basic punctuation is no reason for you to doubt his insight.
@@rickallen9167 I don't disagree with you, I was correcting your English.
You're lying, not "your" lying.
"you're" is the contraction of you are whereas "your" is the possessive advective meaning belonging to you.
Try to remember that and you'll come across a bit smarter in the comments section.
@@bobtaylor170 I agree with him, I was just pointing out his error.
Sad to see Dr. Lennox write off any idea without first considering it (Earth being a level stationary plain). He doesn't seem like he'd be in lock step with "consensus science", but then no one's totally immune to cognitive dissonance.
All flat earthers are trolls or mentally ill.
Considered it for two seconds, and worked out it is nonsense.
Figures, you're most likely brainwashed. @@StudentDad-mc3pu
For a man of his intellect, it’s not worth considering.
@@tombrown2409 But then he believes in fairies etc
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Praise the Lord for his people ❤
Suffering is a gift from God you get stronger while you endure it
In that case I'm wishing you a lot of strength.
That's mean
it's called free will and if GOD steps in at any time you no longer have free will.
Free will isn't possible according to the Bible
That doesn't makenany sense.
That's exactly right! Very well said!
You know how people say when they are going through hard times that you find out who your true friends are? That is maybe a hint at why God allows suffering. Who is there for you when you have nothing and are broken? They are the few true friends you or I really have. To add to that, Job is a good story to remember. Did he really love God? God made it easy for him because he gave him riches and a big family. But when that was all taken away and his love for God was truly tested, and it was shown to be true. This world is not our final resting place and that is what we should remember when hardship comes our way. It is also why we should put our trust and our Love in God.
The small minded attempts to make big brained demonstrations is truly something to behold by some atheists in this sphere. It has to be childhood trauma
Nice gotcha. Westerners love them.
Here is an attempt to demonstrate just a normal sized brain in any case..with a question even a traumatised child could answer...
How did the flightless endemic species of Cormorant arrive on the Galapagos Archipelago?
Be careful of the trap,...
Atheism is simply an acknowledgement of the lack of evidence for the supernatural. Prove me wrong
@@joedennehy386 Lack of Scientific evidence.
I don’t determine truth by what it offers me at death. That puts me at the center of my own reality, choosing what reality serves me best.
I’d become a Muslim if death benefits determined my truth.
We know the Earth can't be flat, it if was the cats would push everything off the edge.
I once heard a story that captures the irony of the 'I don’t believe in God because of suffering' argument, and I think it’s worth sharing. Imagine God hears our complaints and eliminates all our greatest fears: diseases, cancer, wars-you name it. Suddenly, we’re living in a utopia of peace, health, and harmony. But wait! The atheist pipes up: 'How can I believe in a God who lets me experience minor discomforts?' Fine, says God, and poof-no discomforts at all.
Now, do you think everyone’s finally satisfied? Of course not! Someone will grumble, 'How can I believe in a God who lets me feel sad sometimes?' So, God waves a divine hand, and voilà, everyone’s eternally happy. No pain, no sadness-just perfect, perpetual bliss. But guess what? Someone will still manage to complain: 'How can I believe in a God who allows water puddles that mess up my shoes? and so on. Enough with the irony, I praise the wonderful answer given by John Lennox. God bless him for what is doing to proclaim the gospel.
Yeah I don't think there are many who "don't believe in god because of the suffering argument". It's much simpler, "don't believe in god because I see no evidence for god".
@@hongotedesco8931 When I see a design, I think of a designer, because I am not as dumb as Dawkins, who says that the universe and life seem designed, but they are not.
@@bhocatbho Sure, and that is a *very* common reaction (ie, things appear designed, therefore designer). But when you look deeper, you realize nope, it can all be explained by Evolution. Understand that this is just a fact, it's not a "debate". Look at this way, 100% of the things we have discovered about the universe have a naturalistic explanation..no god needed. How many things have we discovered that have a supernatural explanation? Zero percent.
The banner on the thumbnail for this video offers the statement 'what does atheism offer when you die'. Well, exactly the same as those that call themselves theists. You close your eyes, strain for that last breath, your mind racing thinking about your loved ones, fear of what is to come as the darkness clouds your mind and body functions come to an end. Atheism provides comfort in knowing you've lived the best life possible, just like theists. The only real difference? theists believe they will have an afterlife if a fictional heaven. Or false hope. NDEs are a bad arguement against this position since, in that case, these people tend to see what fits their belief systems. An atheist generally believes that this is the one life we know for sure that we get. So, they make it a good one (for better or worse). Christians, I'm forgiven my sins on my deathbed if I ask for it. Then, same as atheists.
Not the same at all. I've had stage 4 for 6 years. Still working part time functioning.
If I didn't know there is eternal life I would probably be insane by now.
I can't understand why one of the host would laugh when Prof. Lennox was deliberately poisoned.
Atheism offers me the fact that this life is all I get. That we are all dying people from the moment of conception. That I need to cherish this life that I know I have instead of pining away for something that is claimed but unsubstantiated in any way, that simply appeals to my mammal existential dread of dying with false promises. Atheism shows me to love everyone as hard as I can NOW. That's real. Which is more than anyone can say about Christianity.
well said.
Sad said.
Sad
We used to think that everything revolved around Earth, when we found out it wasn't like that, we started to think everything revolved around us.
Humans are megalomaniacs, we think we can be the truth of this world, we think we can explain everything using our perception of it, but we are limited. We are no bigger than this world, our ego is big. No human can be the truth, there's only one truth, we didn't create this world and we are too limited to explain it.
There's no love outside Jesus. Atheism says you were created for nothing and you live for nothing, no love can be extracted from that. But truth and lies exist, good and bad exist, we all have a moral code inside us and life is bigger than us.
I'll never follow another human being like me, because I know the limits of a person. And if a human, limited and imperfect is the lie, only a perfect and limitless being can be the truth.
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
One way I answer the question of evil and suffering in the world is, by asking the question, what crop is God growing here on this planet, isn’t it our faith and love? And do we remember the parable Jesus told us of the good seed planted and an enemy sowing bad seed, and the solution was to let them grow together, but separating them at harvest? Is evil sometimes a fertilizer to help faith and love grow stronger? Perhaps we don’t understand now, but perhaps later we will understand the brilliance of God?
Or....maybe god is made up? And we need to look elsewhere for understanding?
@@hongotedesco8931 Yes indeed, that is a choice option.
Prof Lennox equates belief in a flat earth to unbelief in God. But that answer was unsatisfactory. All the ppl I know who are "Flat Earthers" are very committed evangelical Christians...
Same here, and they're very sceptical people. They don't swallow anything hook, line and sinker. They demand evidence from a system that's lied about literally everything. I'm a globe earther who's open to evidence.
But the majority of flat earthers are atheist. So unfortunately your argument falls flat.
@@uncletungsten5253 Most of the ones I've seen cite (erroneously in my view) the Bible. I wasn't making an argument. I was just sharing my observation that flat earth and a biblical worldview aren't mutually exclusive. I LOVE Prof. Lennox. I just disagree.
I appreciate Prof's candid conversation. I respectfully disagree with his ideas of God, and now I wonder the kind of students he had graduated 😮 in mathematics.
You're unfortunately right. The Flatearth community is primarily conservative Christians who have fallen into a conspiracy rabbit hole. Most of Flatearthers also believe that the Moon landing was a hoax, that images of the Earth from space are all CGI, and they'll handwave away any other evidence as they see fit because they've made up their mind about the outcome: it's all a conspiracy and the Earth is flat.
Brilliant. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
@@Practical.Wisdom The Lord has been teaching me the importance of repentance and hunger for scripture after I gave my life to him a few weeks ago, and your conversation just reiterates this and heartens me further. I grew up in a Christian home and thought I had "belief", but I led a sinful and unhappy life because I tried to do things my way and only take from His Word that which was easy and agreeable to me and the world. Thank you, Lord, for showing the error of my ways, not giving up on me and leading me on this amazing journey. And bless you for your faith and work here. Maranatha!
Answer Yes ✅ The Bible is a flat earth book
What nonsense this is!
@@jbut1208 It presents our earth as flat. Rev 21 "I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia in length, and as wide and high as it is long."
A structure 1400 miles by 1400 miles square coming down from heaven would be impossible to rest on a globe earth. As we're told even 1000 miles yields 125 miles drop in curvature.
@@daveyofyeshua The New Jerusalem is basically Minecraft
@@daveyofyeshua a more serious answer (and question): isn't the New Jerusalem to be on the New Earth? We don't know anything about the physical design of the New Earth
@@MartinHindenes Hyper Minecraft 😁
Suffering draws us near to God. Its not that God has brought it but man has chosen to rebel against God and brought on all this.
When you listen to him carefully you realise he doesn't really answer any of the questions. He just waffles on in a way that sounds good but doesn't mean anything
Nice gotcha. Made you feel morally superior and boosted your frail ego. Saying positive things won't boost egos.
If you listen even more carefully you'd grasp what he's actually saying.
Well, the massive problem a great many people have with God is why he allows so much suffering. His answer to that was pure nothingness. This is the central problem with religion, and he's basically got no answer.
@@phexcell Amen! John is a babbling baffoon!
He literally says "the problem of evil is the biggest problem for anyone with any worldview"
It's not... You can't blame an atheist for the fact that YOUR all powerful, all loving GOD allows suffering.
Sure, the suffering is here all the same, but that's not what "the problem" is that was asked about.
Love the Yule decorations!
Lennox justifies my atheism even more
*Atheism,* - A belief that there was once absolutely nothing. And nothing happened to that nothing until the nothing magically exploded (for no reason whatsoever), creating everything and everywhere. Then a bunch of the exploded everything magically rearranged itself (for no reason whatsoever), into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
Not so. Law of contradiction is what you erroneously believe.
A is B is an ABSOLUTE FALSE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS. Lets plug data into formula and critically evaluate your deception.
A is non conscious non intelligent non being non moral non legal non just caused your A is B illogical impossible contradiction effect of
B your conscious intelligent being moral legal and just
A is B caterpillar? Only the opposite is ABSOLUTE TRUE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS
A law of abiogenesis caused the effect of
B law of biogenesis
This is A is B an ABSOLUTE FALSE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS never evidenced in nature or labs but in labs all day long
A isn't B logical non contradiction ABSOLUTE TRUTH A TRUE SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS EVIDENCED IN NATURE AND LABS ALL DAY LONG
A is law of abiogenesis causes the logical non contradiction effect of
A is law of abiogenesis, A is A period
B law of biogenesis causes the logical non contradiction effect of
B law of biogenesis
These are ABSOLUTE TRUE SCIENTIFIC FACTS. DAH ...😢😂
@@The_Last_Rick You clearly don't know science. Read up and come back
@@bobwilkinson2008 There are plenty of scientific reasons to believe that Bible narrative is reality and Evolution is not.
For example, the enigma of the molecular machines within cells. These tiny machines, literally built on the scale of atoms, are constructed from the encoding contained in the DNA. Some of these molecular machines are also the things that reads the DNA’s code to construct the other molecular machines and to make copies of the DNA. For a cell to be alive, there has to be a minimum of around 20 different types of these molecular machines, each working in unison to enable the reproduction of the cell, the coping of the DNA and the ability to take in energy and use it. Without this bare minimum, there is no life.
So where did this huge amount of information come from? How did this huge leap happen to go from non-life to life?
@@bobwilkinson2008 So, how do you believe that we went from a state of no life existing to a state where life exists. Don’t say it evolved because evolution can only happen once life exists. Survival of the fittest and all that only works when live exists and does not show how life came into existence.
After we die, an atheist will never know if he is right, but only if he is wrong. Conversely, the Christian will never know he is wrong, but only that he was right.
The most rational person will take the second choice as much happier than the first.
And that's how most of the thousands of religions works and convert people based on that ..fear
How are u?
Any mindful atheist who strived to genuinely live an impeccable virtuous life the best he/she could , given the knowledge, insight , understanding, and wisdom he/she has at any given time , and led this life with love and kindness , is much better than some religious person doing it bc of reward or punishment from the wrath of god type of mindset (not genuine at all) . Be self responsible and accountable for your choices and actions . You create your own “heaven or hell “ from moment to moment with your thoughts, words and actions in the only like we know we have for certain .
And if whatever god there may be keeps you from heaven merely bc the fact that you reject him and hurt his feelings instead of being judged on your conduct , then that god would not be worthy of respect nor worship .
Separate the “concept of god” and msn made gods like yaweh and zeus and thor and ra and the other thousands of man made gods
I agree with you that some of our atheist friends who are very decent people may have stronger moral values than some Christians, and live a 'better life' in a sense. But the question remains, why would anyone do what's right and proper, and if we are to live a just life, where do we get that idea from? In other words, what is the basis or the standard for our moral values. Is it just because of our social norms that have evolved over the years in our respective cultures? And most importantly, are our moral values objective?
@@Practical.Wisdom do you agree that all living creatures have an instinct to survive and, in general, “thrive” (in contrast to self destruct) and also the natural instinct to recoil from pain ? Do you prefer well-being to suffering ? Do you prefer happiness to sadness and depression ? Do you prefer comfort to discomfort ?
It is certainly conceivable that early hominids as consciousness evolved over time eventually figured out that it is a lot better to cooperate with one another rather than be hit over the head with a club or stoned or lose loved ones in conflict . Perhaps a mutual sense of pain and suffering eventually led to the foundation of rudimentary notion of morality . Who knows 🤷🏼♂️
I can speak for myself at least … I am a sentient being and I know what it feels like to hurt physically and psychologically, I know what it feels to be deceived and lied to , I know what it’s like to suffer etc and I know that I’m not the only human who exists. If “god” is synonymous with nature then great . In fact I’m not to put off by the idea of the deist version of god, that is to say one that set everything in motion billions of yrs ago and then either died, can’t intervene or doesn’t care to . I just reject a personal god , one that hears and answers prayers , intervenes , creates miracles etc . I find no convincing evidence for that .
Moreover, what do you have to say about Buddhists and Jains for example , who are amongst the planets most kind compassionate and loving people and who revere the sanctity of life so much so that they walk on cheese cloth to avoid killing insects ? Yet neither Buddhist nor Jains , traditionally speaking , do not believe in a personal god at all. Their motivation is much different.
What comes first , god or morality ?
@@Practical.Wisdommonotheism (or an interventionist creator of the universe) was divised by man for the explicit reason of making morality objective. which it clearly is not, it is subjective.
@@Practical.Wisdom
"why would anyone do what's right and proper," I cannot believe you even typed this sentence. If you cannot see it for yourself, you are a morally bankrupt person who should stay in church for as long as possible, you deserve each other. Disgusting.
I certainly agree we humans have a capacity for goodness, compassion, love, etc. we also have the capacity for just the opposite. If it’s driven by instinct isn’t just a means for evolution to ensure that the organism survives and replicates. Than all of our experiences are arbitrary dictated by random choices, personal whims and circumstances as our genes strive against one another to replicate.
Thankyou John for sharing your wisdom so beautifully