Concord And Originality In Live Service Games - Luke Reacts
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A big reason for the big bad reaction is multi player live service fatigue. I’m not saying concord can’t be good, but I am saying that I immediately was turned off by another one of these style of games.
False. If the game isnt for you then simply dont complain stick to your genre. Mosr of the hate is feom people that dont like hero shooters.
it was because of the cringe reddit-tier writing in the trailer
Nah. The mango knows not
The mango just doesn’t like people talking smack about his pre-order.
You are correct. People are sick of these low effort over monetized pieces of unfinished garbage
@@CrystalMang0 so people aren't allowed to complain anymore?
Are you one of those people who say that you can't critique a game unless you own it?
@@CrystalMang0 because of the stigma against it. Just make a shooter without quirky heroes, and keep the cool mechanics. Boom. You're set.
We're tired of the marvel writing. We want something that is played straight. Not...this.
I might have considered this if it was free to play, but i’m not spending that much money on a live service game for it to possibly fail in weeks of launch
To be fair, a lot of Overwatch characters' movesets were taken from the different TF2 builds. Blizzard just made some of them look like hot Pixar characters.
So you could say Sony's biggest problem is not copying, but just making the game look bland as hell.
Overwatch was basically the last big Western release featuring purposely hot characters to draw players in. We've seen that Nexon has successfully mirrored the formulae with The First Descendant and a whole bunch of cash-shop players running around as the hot Bunny character.
Concord basically offers all of the tired tropes from "modern entertainment" with nothing original, and -- as you mentioned -- not copying any of the good parts that initially made Overwatch popular.
“Weekly cutscenes.”
Nothing hits harder than Team Fortress 2 Meet the Series.
Even if the game lasts, nobody is going to watch the story things. We already know it's going to be cringe as can be but even if it's not, nobody is going to watch them. The people that want a story play single player games. The people who play multiplayer don't care about a story. Also, what in the world are the 2 people doing at 2:55? 2 people getting shot in the back for 5 minutes and not 1 turns around.
The problem is that even if the story is good, the characters are awful. So you now have a story laden to unlikable characters. It's already an uphill struggle.
It's crazy to me that people genuinely believe the devs will be able to keep up a weekly story content schedule with any degree of quality. Many of the biggest studios have had to extend seasons by 6 months to try to get any amount of worthwhile content out. And we're supposed to expect weekly cutscenes? How many of those are going to have been developed pre-release to be slowly dripfed, rather than being in the actual game?
I'm guessing they will have about 6 months to a year of cutscene in the bag as a buffer. And depending on how successful the game is? Will determine if they keep on creating them.
Like if they get there dream scenario and get like Overwatch just released big. Then they will easily be able to get the resources to do weekly story stuff to probably not even need a buffer.
But most likely the game won't do that good, and after the 6 months to a year, they will give the news that they are cutting down on story content. Will probably turn into bi-weekly, then slowly into monthly... Then maintenance mode.
I think most of the cutscenes are already done. The games been in development for 5 years now. I wouldn’t e surprised if they don’t have a years worth of cutscenes already made. And depending on if the cutscenes land or not they continue to develop more for the coming seasons years or however long the game last.
Are you dumb? The cutscenes were pre-made, meaning they most likely already have cutscenes ready for a whole year.
@@kcakiidyeah...
How many games has been in development for years only to come out halfbaked?
Look at SSKJL, that game has been in development for years and their first DLC character's intro cutscenes are just comic strips.
@@buggart that’s different, this team has had one focus from the start of the their development, SS had development issues and went from open world single player games to a live service game.
Fire walk devs are people from bungie and COD, all they know is shooters so they are more focused. Plus I’m sure like SS they have at least a years worth of content planned for the game if it succeeds or not.
To be fair. With so many hero shooter games out there. It's kind of hard to make a character that doesn't resemble some character from some other game
Nah. Look at Hi-Fi Rush, look at Bombrush Cyberfunk, look at The First Descendant -- there are a ton of cool games with unique characters that are just different enough to stand out on their own. The problem is that every Western studio simply lacks originality and creativity.
@@Billy-bc8pk true. I see your point there.
@@Billy-bc8pkhi-fi rush was a critically darling, but it flopped both in sales and it flopped on Gamepass. People who played on Gamepass didn't even play through 15% of the game, and it's not even a long game.
Maybe he brings this up but one of the art leads from Destiny moved to work on Concord. If you see those spike trip grenades. That's literally a 1 to 1 from Destiny.
Yea I believe the goal is to feel like crucible from destiny, because crucible has alot of baggage from pve making the balance terrible to the constant grinding and up front payments for all the dlc to grind even more.
I think they wanna create that crucible experience for people that just wanna hop in for some games that feel line crucible but balanced and quick without the grinding all day.
I miss Destiny 1 crucible
That last point I agree with a lot. It's not about whether the game will be good. I mean people would love to hate it if it's bad, but everyone's negative reactions to the reveal was solely based on WHAT THE GAME IS. People hear those collections of genres, that same kind of writing, and they will very likely write if off.
The current lack of character pronouns in games was exactly what was missing and no other studio was putting resources into it. I have a feeling this is one of those, we just have to stop whatever we're playing, and pay attention to it. I can't wait for the launch.
Can't tell if serious 😬
@@j1spen736 Dripping with sarcasm. But this has become the focus of devs, letting you know the game will be of extremely low quality.
More excited to play Frag punk than Concord
The Slime Rancher devs should make a live service shooter and mix up the shooter classes, for example by giving every hero a valid slime based melee ability.
I don't like the holy trinity. I think the tank role is bad and causes a zillion issues. I'd love to play hero shooters without the holy trinity or at least without tanks.
EDIT: LOL I love Luke's admiration of Shroud's skill.
Great watch as always. As someone who doesn't play these multiplayer games i feel like the repetitive nature is part and parcel with the genresof these live service shooters where you can only really do so much so studios will often do things that aren't original because theres existing winning formulas on the market. Versus maybe some single player genres where we may see more variety since there is room to do those experiments rather than chase that constant live service cash cow where studios are fighting for those attention spans.
Under One Hour Gang!!! 😄
I’m apart of this by accident😂 I just need something to get by at work
Made the 54 minute mark!
You must have some poor and sad life accomplishments if you’re this excited for something as pointless as this.
I really appreciate the tone of this video! Fair skepticism and leaving room for the game to prove itself. As a part of the minority that is really excited for concord I hope I get to say "i told you so" once we get to play it. I just get tired of the kneejerk reaction of "corny dialogue, hero shooter, this game is trash, end of discussion."
My real concern is that the Beta (with nearly full-release content) arrives this weekend and there's hardly been any promotion. Leaving stuff for the full release is great, but I expected some type of deeper look at the loadout system or maybe show more of the characters we've hardly seen or literally anything. My copium says they have some huge ace up their sleave that will generate massive hype, but I dream. Seems like they would at least be dropping hints if they had more planned.
In any case, people should try the open beta. If the game is good it should speak for itself.
Concord could have really good gameplay, but having good gameplay is not enough to survive as a live service game. Everything about the game has to be perfect, the first impression is gonna be very important and if they can't wow people it's gonna die in less than a month.
You will not be saying "I told you so". Collective intuition has never been proven to be wrong.
I actually disagree man I don't think a game needs streamers to stick around for the game to be popular like if it's a good game streamers will play it but I think if the game is solid and fun people will flock to it
Im way more interested in FragPunk because thats a game that tries to stand out in the ocean of live service shooter games through unique features like the card system. I think that if you want to make a GaaS that stands out, you should implement some unique gameplay features or gameplay designs instead of 'lets make ppl play our online shooter because of lore and story'.
DOA…. That is all 🤣
I feel like Concord being a PvP hero shooter was a last minute decision. They should have made it more of an actual heist game with possible co-op. You hire on some crew members, take jobs, gain or lose reputation with factions, get gear and specialize people in varying ways, maybe rescue crew from prisons or criminal hideouts if they get "killed" on a mission, actually be the scoundrels they're painted to be. Instead we get escort the McGuffin for the 500th time because the intro dialogue during the obligatory flyover of the map told me if we win this match then Ponzi Schemo will get another bottle of hot sauce or something. The stuff like weekly cutscenes isn't going to sell copies, it's something you can experience in a compilation video on youtube once a month to get the current story.
Man, we really do need a good heist game. I just wish we had a game like Payday 2 but less arcadey and more sim-oriented.
It wasn't a last minute decision. They always wanted it like this. The developers said it themselves.
fragpunk looks like player vs player.
what ever happened to that game Contraband that was announced a few years ago
I think what turned people off was the same copy paste game formula and the marvel style writing. People are tired of both.
I didn’t preorder it , but I’m eager to try out the game and seeing what the game offers . I don’t see how that is a bad thing
Its a bad thing because its a generic cash grab and you are falling victim to it and allowing for more generic games like it to come to fruition
@@AP90x brother I can see reviews and steamers play it and make my judgment based on it. I don’t buy games on release
Can you do videos of critique of single player games which mostly are dead already.
When I first saw and heard it announced i thought.
"Cool a Sci-Fi Co-op game"
Then the gameplay started and thought
"Oh... Right"
Sure the gunplay looks decent but I'm just over games like this. Especially if its a £35 game
I think Fragpunk is just more unique looking and brings more new stuff in. Doesn’t mean Concord will be bad. But I think longevity wise it will hurt concord more. Also depends on if Fragpunk is free or not. I think both have potential. But I’m more optimistic for Fragpunk because everyone who has played it says they can’t stop thinking about it and miss the Alpha already
Been excited for fragpunk, hope it does good cuz it doesn't look horrible
Ah yes, fragpunk copies valorant and friends vs friends and gets praise while concord gets hate, yall just run with the herds and create arguements to justify your preinstalled stances.
Both games look fun but dont for a second think either are creative or doing new things 😂
@@TigerBlood-m4b I think the card premise is the part people are excited about lol, it's not always herd mentality and you being a maverick, maybe a lot of people just happen to share that opinion
@@MarcyontheMapp the card mechanic is what is taken from friends vs friends.
Which I have to say, friends vs friends seemed to have done the premise better but ofc fragpunk isnt made by indi devs so this games actually probably gonna killa really fun indi game and not even do the premise as well 😂
@@TigerBlood-m4b yeah i just meant its a less overdone concept than first person hero shooter + story content
The only game I've ever pre-ordered is astro bot lol looks so fun
Wtf happened to arc raiders
I know right, flying under the radar at the moment.
Those same developers are busy with the The Finals, so you'll see it later.
@@paroxysm_brian7817 Yes. That was rhetorical but thanks.
This is a bit of a rant in general for media in this day and age, but one of the unfortunate results of our current pop culture landscape is that originality and novelty are at a premium above all else. We as consumers of media are like drug addicts when it comes to story and gameplay experiences, as we've burned through so many styles and genres that eventually there's domination by a few select franchises that represent cultural niches. Many people dunking on this game for being unoriginal and pulling from other franchises, and this is exactly why studios now are terrified of making a new IP. Why go to the lengths of making your own new thing that does pay homage to other sources when you'll just be immediately met with "they're just aping Overwatch and GotG". Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Well said. Like at the end of the day there’s not much “new” left. Everything now is just retelling of other ideas.
To be fair, this is Sony trying to dig into some of the already overcrowded PvP hero shooter marketshare, so regardless of the originality of the characters, it's going to immediately be compared to its peers, like Overwatch. Nothing about this really strikes me as one person's artistic vision, more like it's a safe and approachable way to try and make some money in the hero shooter market with a setting that's juuuust distinct enough to not be called a blatant ripoff, so I feel like that's going to make people immediately more critical of it.
Overwatch is just the avengers with a monkey scientist rather than a guy inna mech suit, and captain America is a guy with a gun instead of a shield.
Hell divers is just halo, and tainted grail is skyrim to a T.
Yet all were beloved games or are shaping up to be like tainted grail.
So yea it's funny to see people pick and choose which things to be mad about when it comes to inspiration 😂
It's why i Immediately write off anyone who criticizes a game for that now adays.
@@TigerBlood-m4b my issue with it pertains to how insufferable and cliche the writing of these game has become. Marvel style writing where everyone is trying too hard to be unique and stuff, and it results in feeling like they're putting up a mask just to attempt to hide how absent of their own self autonomy or actually interesting characteristics they have.
In the modern age, Hero Shooter equals Bad Writing, insufferable characters, microtransaction hell, and such.
The problem is that everyone is trying to be the next big thing. Instead of making something they themselves truly want to do. That's why apex actually popped off when it released, if archives are to be believed. It was the drive of a creative vision that saw a concept, found it awesome, brought their own take on it, and used it to form their own distinct vision. Now, it's become tainted by late stage live service rot.
Want to know who actually does the hero concept well?
Digital Extremes.
@@Zynet_Eseled good thing I'm playing the game for a the game aspect, not because it's a movie 😂
Not sure why youd judge an entire game by some vids they toss in for fun, I personally think it's a cool idea and if it can add some depth to the heros than why not, it doesn't need to be Shakespearean writing for a game, just needs to get their identities and backstories across for the people that enjoy that stuff
I thought this looked like crap-
What was that other hero shooter that had a green garbage using guy?
I dunno, I’ve been sick of Live service games since Destiny
Me and a couple friends saw the game and scoffed. Even if it’s great, I’m sick of live service games. Unfortunately too many devs are making live service games. It’s disgusting how the AAA space is no longer about innovation and entertainment. It’s about growth and monetization.
Exactly what I did.
I saw the generic character designs and a “pfffft” emerged from my lips.
I'm sorry (not really), but how long will just shooting and jumping around in a game continue to be fun? Hasn't this been perfected already at this point. I saw that guy shooting at 5:28, and I just felt nothing at all.
I mean, the majority of game archetypes have been done for a long time now. That's like asking when platformers, rpgs, and racing games will stop being fun.
I know what you mean
"weekly cutscenes" seems like a stupid idea to me because if it fails or layoffs happen then what now?
The gunplay is enough to intrigue me. Im trying out the beta, ill decide then. So long as the monetization feels like it respects my time then all it needs for me is to be fun. Overwatch 2 is...not good so i have a hole in my gaming library that needs filled. Im hoping this or Marvel Rivals can fill that
Everything is incuded in the prices besides some cosmetics which you can buy or not buy. But future content, new Heros, new Maps and so on are all included in the price
if the gunplay is enough to intrigue you then just play destiny lmao it’s free
@@chris-_-3440 if I wanted to play destiny I'd go play destiny. I just spent the better half of a decade on that game
@@robertdelgado544 if u spent half a decade on destiny what about the gunplay intrigues you? the same way the reticles on the lower middle of your screen? the way the characters throw grenades the exact same way? the healing pads? what about the gunplay is different whatsoever from destiny
@@chris-_-3440 I don't need to justify my opinions or thoughts to a troll trying to pick fights in a RUclips comment section. You have nothing of value to add to the conversation so goodbye
Revolutionary? Bahahahahahahaha
Honestly, the big issue with games like these is that they need support (money, players) to achieve their vision, but people are too cynical to give them a chance. I'm a overwatch players since 2017 and I hate the way this game looks generic, but the gameplay looks good. Yet everybody just sees it as a cashgrab, etc. Maybe we should give it a shot instead of letting it die and then blame "the industry". Because that is what usually happens. New great shooter comes out, nobody gives it a shot, the game dies and people laugh at it and blame the industry saying there are too many games like these. Yeah there are many games like these, but how many are you playing? They're only asking for your attention.
I got a code from Discord from someone who preordered so I will try his. If good than I will buy. Hopefully less cheaters like in the F2P games than the 40€ are more than worth the price
That is such a good point, every game I play now is riddled with cheaters, I witnessed a ego dual between hackers the other day on overwatch than got 2 more that same night, go play apex and again just clear hacking and I'm so sick of it in all my games, so it seems all f2p are just riddled with the little rats but I never had this issue in overwatch till it went f2p, even when it was nearing the end of its live as overwatch1 there were never many hackers but now it's all I see the content creators talk about, or I go on twitter and it's all just people complaining about hackers.
@@TigerBlood-m4b yes its crazy nowadays with cheaters. Normally they dont do this in games that cost money but we will see
@@M09O1O itll always exist I'm sure, cause it's always existing in every game I've played but then pay wall will keep it to a minimum, instead of facing them daily like i do in overwatch or apex.
And even my fav game as of late the finals has tons of them, because its f2p so despite the game being amazing I find myself just hating the experience some nights cause the hackers, so I'm excited for a game like this that doesn't have that issue.
As PS5 user i must admit Fragpunk looks more interesting than Concord.
Radar!?!?
Why?
PVE is easier for upfront cost. these moba style usually comes with extra cost of buying a champ/hero too. its going to be so costly to try to get most heroes depending on the grind settings. just hope the hero acquisition is not too grindy and forces months of gameplay to get the full roster of heroes. skill trees would need a lot of differences for hero shooters.
Heroes are free
Everyone is hating on this but shooting looks fun and since overwatch 2 came out I've been needing a new hero shooter. Idc if they find success, i was a huge fan of battleborn so ik what it means if they aren't, but if the game is actually good then thats all i can ask for as a player. Im not gonna sit here and be concerned about a multi-million dollar companies finances.
Live service only works if you implement meaningful content to the game.
I feel helldivers has been great but honestly suffers due to fatigue caused by repetitive mission and enemy design.
I dont think helldivers is suffering, every single game had player drop off after some time passes. Helldivers held onto a huge player count for longer than average, the ps account bs didnt help but its definitely got a healthy player count. Think the only people who are saying helldivers is suffering are people who are new to gaming or play waaaay too much.
@@Donnie_Oculus "healthy" 32K players on steam
Stardew Valley 140K
Baldurs Gate 3 90K
RDR2 40K
Helldivers 2 has less players on steam right now, compared to Fallout 4. YEAH so that singleplayer games that only have a once off purchase and maybe expansions have more players than a game thats designed to keep you playing so you can spend money in the cash shop
@@imo098765 This is aRe word logic.. other games having a higher player count has nothing to do with nor does it take away from the fact 32k is still a healthy player count on steam. Idk where the digital purchase stuff came into the conversation but sure lol.. Pretty sure helldivers 2 has had plenty of free updates so far and will continue to i the future, idk why anyone would complain about a live service game selling cosmetic only mtx. You do know it isnt free to host online servers right? plus your fallout 4 "gotcha" is weak considering fallout 4 was a barren bore of a game until mods. even the expansions (if you can even call them that) were lacking, before that game we got actual expansions in better games frankly (fallout 3, oblivion, new vegas) which is another example of higher player counts not necessarily meaning a game is better or dying etc people still make mods for oblivion, people can still easily find a match in helldivers 2.
@@imo098765 crazy you bring up red dead 2 like the mtx in that game are acceptable LOL.. most players are in private servers RPing or playing single player. 🤣 another example of a game with higher player count that doesnt take a way from another, rdr2 multiplayer is a joke and "healthy" is the farthest word id use to describe it. Would be great if rockstar put as much care into their multiplayer as helldivers 2 does, even a fraction of the care would be awesome lol. Still rdr2 is great, i just dont see how any logical person would use it to tear down another game knowing how rockstar notoriously handles it.
@@Donnie_Oculus Its not healthy, if everyone give $10 thats only 320K per month to develop the game, run the servers, add new content AND give PS their money
You have seen the writing in the 5 or 7 mn intro, based bad marvel writing.
concord only hope is that it needs to be very good, or no one will buy it
Concord sounds like a discord rip-off
I just love your attitude; Even if it's a good and fun game it could fail. All I am looking for is a fun game that I can play, period. Don't need doom and gloom before the game is even out there. Funny you mentioned Shroud, he was very impressed with the Concord reveal. And Shroud knows a thing or two about team shooters and yet he didn't do "expert" analysis on time to kill, reloading that is not fun and 101 stupid crap you have to say to bring the upcoming game down.
incredible ragebait if you weren’t so biased and looked at things from a specific standpoint and actually resonated with what he said it’s actually completely justifiable for him to be making these claims, us as gamers and consumers can only be duped so many times before we see a pattern…., and hopefully that pattern doesn’t continue with concord but literally everything they’ve shown follows that line
@@chris-_-3440 yeah, sure. I am with Shroud on this one.
I vehemently dislike the character design
They look GENERIC for lack of a better term
illegal to be this early
Weird comment but ok
The gameplay will be probably be fine. The studio was founded by ex-Bungie devs and you can see from the combat that it looks _very_ similar to Destiny. Say what you want about Destiny, but the gameplay itself is pretty good. The problem with Concord is everything else. The characters give off a bootleg Guardians of the Galaxy vibe, and everything else just looks like generic sci-fi. You need to bring your A-game when designing a new IP, and if this is the best they could come up with, then I doubt they'll have good ideas for anything else in the game.
Without a single player story to properly introduce us to the world/setting of the game, what makes you think I’m gonna care about the weekly cutscene to push the story forward? This was a massive oversight by the studio, and is one thing Overwatch doesn’t offer is a single player campaign. That would’ve helped a lot in differentiating the two and could’ve went a lot way towards selling the game to everyone.
I don't think it's about whether this game is good or not. It's a hero shooter, these games usually do very well and are pretty fun to play regardless. And I have played most all of them and have enjoyed playing. In fact, I think I'll enjoy frag punk when it comes out! But here's the thing.. Most every single hero shooter to date is free. Even OverWatch, the one that seems to hold the crown as most popular is now completely free.
So whenever I see the trailer for this game, it looks nice and all but it's going to be another hero shooter and a live service at that. So why? Why should I spend a larg upfront price on something that I can play free in several different variants? For me, I couldn't care less if it's a new game that found inspiration from hero shooters or wants to be another MOBA. If the developers follow the herd and create their own unique twist to a genre, that's fine. But if your inspiration is a horde of free to play games don't expect me to play if you ask for an upfront price. I think what happened to the game exoprimal is a perfect example of this exact situation
Weekly cutscenes sounds dumb as hell
The gameplay just doesn't look good. It just looks like a freemium game I'd get bored with after about a week. I'm going back to singleplayer games.
Why would good writing mean it has to be singleplayer? I think its kinda bad that only singleplayer games get quality storylines. There is no reason they cant have a good ongoing story for a hero shooter. Its actually a perfect genre for an ongoing TV show-like storyline.
Early previews that are sponsored are toxic. Don't defend them. If you want to get exposure, you do an open beta. Sponsored gameplay that only creators who are being bribed get to play.... its fucking terrible for consumers.
did you not listen to what he said? he didn’t say it HAD to be single player if the story was good i’ll reiterate for him, he said if the storyline and weekly cinematics are SO good enough to keep a player base around then people will just WANT a single player or co-op spin off, please use your listening ears when watching critiques or reviews because that’s not at all what he said
@@chris-_-3440
1. Calm down kid. Massively overreacting. Guessing you are a streamer simp. Find a better hobby.
2. I didn't use quotes, so again, you are overreacting. My point was about people in general's expectation that good story has to be a singleplayer product. If a good story instantly has you questioning why its not singleplayer, then you have that expectation.
3. Seriously, calm down. Like you really get that triggered over something that your incorrectly interpreted was somehow insulting to Luke? Are you really that pathetic? Holy hell.
4. You try to insult me for "not listening", and then proceed to use all-caps for words Luke didn't even say in the video.... big brain moment there.
This is gonna flop so Hard
Yet you have no reason why?
Pretty much lol
It just looks mid. And no offense to anyone who designed or helped develop this game, I just cannot get excited about it.
It's not just that it looks generic, and that there's really nothing engaging about it; It's also the idea that these people are presenting this game, and we're supposed to take them at the word that they won't be like every other live service title that's coming out these days.
We're supposed to just trust at we're going to get new content quickly, that it's going to be good, that the balance is going to be anything, and that's on top of assuming the game is going to be fun at all.
And then on top of THAT, all live service designs are fundamentally flawed. There is an inescapable problem with designing your game to generate endless content, and generate endless money; The idea that there's always more money to be earned, and that you're always going to be able to take a cut off and pie that is getting smaller and smaller, is ridiculous on principle and we can see it failing again and again in practice.
So you have a game built on a shaky model no one liked in the first place and that everyone is tired of, and the game really should step forward and show us their best but we get... This. And then if you look past all of it and do have faith in this game, how can you trust that it's going to last more than a year or two? It would be one thing to say that in a vacuum, but we lost two last month, so it's not just within the realm of possibility but it has a vacation home there.
I immediately wrote this game off after seeing the characters have pronouns in there details
All these characters are so ugly I'm convinced these were either done on purpose or all the talented artists just died at the same time. Seriously, who is sending money on these characteristics, they have zero appeal
Tired 5 year old concept
The game looks boring.
Fortnite night is enough for me and its free, $40 on a game right now with every company trying to do some dumb stuff and pay walling everything..... Not happening
CONCORD BOUTA BE DOPE.
the devs are vets
Live service is an automatic pass for me
the issue with this is that the world looks quite intriguing just for it to be a 5v5 hero shooter.
Its not f2p? This game is dead within 3 weeks
The characters are so ugly that i wouldn't try the game even if they give it for free.
With the success of the first descendant I think live service is alive and well. This fear mongering over live service is based on the failed products. People clearly want it. It just has to be good enough to garner an audience
Problem isnt live service. Problem is corporates are forcing industry direction is such a way that single player studios are making live service and corporates are cutting other genre budgets and over investing in live service so studios can make another fortnite or overwatch. Success of Helldivers is only gonna make other studios hope for a multimillion dollar overnight success although its success was organic and not forced for monetization like almost all live service games are.
@@JadepeanutI dont think its chasing either of those trends, concord is clearly trying to target the crucible audience from destiny, crucible is so fun gunplay wise and ability wise but because its attached to a pve game the balance is abysmal and you got a 300$ price tag to enter as well as grinding your life away to keep up making it much less about your skill and much more about your ability to grind, plus the bp sells actual guns so it can feel pay to win sometimes but the gameplay is top teir and maybe the best in the business.
So logically someone should create a crucible experience without all the baggage, them making it a hero shooter was just probably because it would make it stand out even more from halo and destiny while being able to maintain the gunplay and feel of destiny.
So anyone criticizing the game for it being similar to destiny, that's probably the goal 😂
@@TigerBlood-m4b i never said concord is bad . I am just saying why people hate trend of live service games
@@Jadepeanut well sony already came out and said they just wanna go back to releasing smaller box model games and they dont expect them to perform like fortnite, Sony is literally trying to go against that now, it's why I supported hell divers and I'll prob support most 40$ games they drops now because if we can show them this model works still, than maybe we can kinda reverse these live service games that give it a bad name like apex and its 500$ skins or overwatch and its 80$ wep skins
Because if the monitaztion and grinding is anything like hell divers, than I'm gonna enjoy this monetization concord has.
@@TigerBlood-m4b Yeah man i totally want that.
FragPunk>Concord
Concord looks like dogshit, but people who play overwatch-like live service games in 2024 have no standards whatsoever and will probably consume any slop no matter how lazily put together.
Dude every shooter on the market except the finals is dogsheit so idk what you're playing that's so great but the only one I've played with genuine love and care put in recently has been the finals and its created by the true talent that left battlefield 5 years ago, which is the same situation concords in, it's the talented devs from bungie that left the studio 5 years ago when the studio started becoming a greedy soulless cash grabbing company.
So after seeing the finals I have faith this model of making games live service isnt fked after all, and any of the devs that left their corrupt studios to go work on games and risk their careers over their morals are gonna get at least a try from me
And we should be seeing one from the blizzard devs that didnt wanna drink breast milk and left blizzard years ago 😂
Sounds like your just crying that people like a genre you dont. Cry
@@CrystalMang0 found an overwatch loving clown, lol
@@SergeyBondar-mx6fe pretty sad that you just chill in comment sections of games you hate just to make fun of it and the people that like it.
Like who hurt you? 😂
@@TigerBlood-m4b if you play live service slop you deserve to be laughed at. Cope, clown.
Ngl even for free this looks like sh*t. So 40$ ? What a joke
This game looks pretty bad
Its bland as hell if you want to play a game like this why wouldnt you pick overwatch over this? who wants to play as ugly characters? Its worse when they turn already good franchise's into ugly messes so im glad they aren't ruining more franchise's but if everyone waits a month or 2 it will be free to play anyway as the player base will be so low. We have seen it before with destruction allstars and this will go exactly the same way