UPDATE: We’ve now had Starlink at our cottage for almost a year. Set Up: We go up about once a month, sometimes for a few days, sometimes longer. I store the dish in the basement when away. It takes a few minutes to put on the beach near the lake, where reception is the best. I run the wire through a slightly open window. The whole process including boot up time takes about 10 minutes. It worked perfectly in -30c or in 30c. Speed: Generally we go from 2 to 150 mbps. Hard to say why exactly. Although a bit slow at times, we always have access to the web. During the day, we check email, read the news on browsers and stream radio. In the evening we watch the news or Netflix. While surfing, there can be interruptions for a few seconds. Streaming is largely seamless. We usually have at least 5 devices accessing internet, sometimes more. Tree Issue: There are a ton of trees. I’ve done nothing to cut them back. I’m pro-tree. Overall Impression After a Year: Starlink is expensive (we’re paying CAD$160 a month!), but perfect for our needs. Unlimited data, speed ok and bragging rights. No regrets at all.
They now have available the square (flat) dish antenna for limited visibility, I think it's called their performance dish? No clue on pricing but it's intended for in-motion and limited view of the sky.
I am in the same boat regarding trees and your video is very encouraging. Thank you for sharing your results and keep enjoying your beautiful property!
Thanks for your experiences with Starlink and trees. I will be receiving mine in two days and I am greatly encouraged that living among trees like you, I may have an very acceptable internet regardless of obstructions. I don’t game or video conference so my streaming may be pretty darn good.
I have to REALLY thank you for that little video. No one I can find has discussed this like you did with the details of the specific issue you face. I too am surrounded by trees, and have been quite concerned about the "interruption" issue. I do have one hole where the App says I'll have an interruption every four minutes - elsewhere on my property it's 40 or 50 seconds.. Of course, I had no idea if that would mean it would even work but you have answered that question. I don't have my unit yet in Southern Pennsylvania, but service where I live is limited to crappy DSL so I am very relieved to see your success and am more anxious than ever to get Starlink! Thank you again SO much for the posting.
Best of luck Dale. My understanding is that things will improve as more satellites get into orbit, so hopefully people with lots of trees like you and me will have fewer offline moments. We’ll see.
I have watched probably 10 to 15 starlink videos. I just watched yours. It's the best. You should enter it in a film festival. My starlink is arriving next week. Can't wait!
Excellent, your tree cover looks like my yard. I'm not asking for perfection and we're not online gamers so I will be giving starlink a try at our cabin!
Thank you for your encouraging video. I have suffered with poor quality Bell (land line based, supposedly "high speed" at a premium price) for far too long here in New Brunswick. No fibre op out here in the countryside besides Xplornet satellite (not as good as Starlink) and there really are no other options. I too have a lot of trees but not as closely enclosed as your property. I am really impressed with Starlink. I've switched my cellular to another company (Koodo) to enable wifi calling. That works great on Starlink! Unbelievable speed and connectivity and rarely any interruptions. I have my dish on the deck temporarily but will be going on the peak of my two story home where I am sure to get pristine reception.
Thank you. This is exactly what I wanted to know. I'm considering putting an offer in on a house on a lake. I tried the obstruction app at the place, and the best location I found said an outage every 36 minutes. Sounds like that won't be much of an issue. Much appreciated.
I suppose it depends on what you do online. For our purposes (at least four devices accessing the web, with two streaming Netflix all day and night), it works fine. I noticed our speed dropped a bit in January. Not sure why, but even at 25 Mbs and a forest of trees, we still used it without issues.
Great video, thanks. Hopefully it will arrive in the Yukon, but not holding my breath. May I suggest like Steve Potts has and say put it on a pole. Maybe even crawl onto your roof and see if that helps. Good luck whatever way you do it. Cheers.
In the coming years it will be less of an issue when more Starlink shells are launched. Right now they are deploying shell two for the northernmost and southernmost latitudes. Next I presume more sats near the Equator, and then more dense coverage across USA/EU etc. To me it looks like a pole a tad out in the lake or well over the roof would be a good solution. You really only need 25 degrees horizon above the leaves.
@@la7dfa yeah, i heard they are putting satellites into polar orbits very soon. Before they could do that, they needed to work on the between satellite laser interlinks. Since they can't put ground stations on the North Pole
Yeah - for streaming and basic browsing, email and messaging, you will be ok. You will not be able to do any FaceTime or other video/voice calls. Also, you will not be able to keep the dish out there in that currently location over the winter. You could mount it on a pole 8 ft high or so. If you plan to keep the wire outside, I would put in some kind of conduit. I just used cheap 3/4 outdoor water pipe and it seems to be fine.
I have 20 devices hooked up and 6 4K streams going. I have obstructions every 10 minutes. Planning on chopping the cluster of pines to my north east to be obstruction free next spring. Location 44.5 Maine.
Nice! I also have many trees, with outages less often. No impact on streaming, but definite impact on interactive services like zoom calls. BTW, I put out a monthly report on my RUclips channel!
The way to solve your obstruction problem is to mount the starlink on a pole this is done by first inserting a slider on the pole which has a fitting for the starlink and then is pulled into place with a crank cable apparatus I've built one of these at my home I've also built one for my neighbor we are intensely populated woods in Oregon and have perfect reception
In my case, it would have to be the Mother of All Poles to get above the tree line. Given the reception I get, even surrounded by trees, it wouldn't be worth the time and expense.
Love the information in this video! Good job! I am thinking about getting on the list for Starlink. I have used their app to determine how much obstruction I will get from the trees in the area. I am getting a percentage, roughly 12% obstruction. How do you estimate that in minutes/seconds? Do I have to actually have the equipment to figure that? Thank you
The Startlink app will tell you everything you need to know. We've now been using it for 6 months. Still a ton of trees (although we moved it onto the lake, so fewer obstructions), and we can still do everything we want online . . . including Zoom.
Isn't it great we got ours a couple weeks ago and disconnected from bell right away I in New Brunswick I haven't done a video of it yet but I am going to.
Glad you made the video. I too have trees, not as many as you. I am no longer concerned. I had researched towers etc. to try and get above the trees, but 60 feet tower to get above the pines are expensive. Thanks.
I just bought 10 foot galvanized steel pole, then i bought the pipe adapter from starlink and i'll have it mounted on a tripod cinderblock setup. I have 60 foot pine trees surrounding my house
Je présume que si vous vivez au Québec depuis un certain temps, vous devez comprendre le français ou sinon Google traduction. Je suis dans une région très boisé tout comme un ami qui a installé "Starlink" à son chalet en Mauricie. Afin de bonifier la réception, il a installé une tour de communication de 50'. Il obtient plus de 100mb en download et upload. Netflix, RUclips et la téléphonie fonctionne à merveille. J'ai l'impression qu'il est assis à côté de moi... De mon côté, j'ai installé une tour de 60' cette été en vue de l'installation de Starlink. L'avantage de la tour, c'est de pouvoir partagé ton wifi avec tes voisins et tes coûts... Mais, ça c'est une autre histoire. Merci d'avoir partagé votre expérience!
You have a beautifull house ! I have the same problem and as a teacher doing lots of online classes and live streaming, Starlink is not for me.......Too bad.
If you get it higher it will help. App said interruption every 4 seconds. Streaming was fine but I couldnt online game with it but now I can. 10 foot metal pool attached to a 16 ft 6 x 6 helped a lot.
If trees are close and large enough to obstruct star link on your roof they are probably close enough to fall on your house and set it on fire, chop them down and make a proper fire break
I rent where there's an HOA. The forest is ridiculously dense here. I can't just go chopping down trees or putting up towers for dishes. But if I'm sneaky maybe I can hide the antenna somewhere that it could work.
I was at the cottage about a month ago, with few leaves in the trees. It set up fast and provided steady internet for the days we were there. It makes sense to think that fewer leaves means clearer access to the sky.
@@GrahamToppHongKong The attenuation depends on the moisture of the leaves and for any crops in the fall. So in general spring is the worst time with juicy new leaves.
Im glad its working for you even with the trees, but something to remember is the trees will continue to grow and block your signal. But its working for now so just cross that bridge when you come to it.
Yeah, a lot of trees... However, that is why you live there. So, consider this. Trees are really towers. Hello. Spoken like a ham radio operator. Also, tell me about the last time you checked for interruptions in your cable broadband? Like never, right? No one does. All of a sudden we have this criteria to test for. WIFI calling might not like it, but some buffering would take care of that.
I've had starlink for 3 months now and i get interruptions every minute due to all the tall pine trees that are on other peoples property's. Today i bought a 10 foot galvanized steel pole, just waiting on starlink to send me my pipe adapter which they are taking like over a month to ship. Also don't keep your cable on the ground, I'm on my 3rd starlink dish since rodents keep eating on the cable because tesla/spacex/starlink coat their wires in soybean oil for some reason and rodents love eating tesla's wiring and starlink's dishy wire! Imagine all the tesla's out there that street park their car longer than a week yikes. If your just planning on youtubing netflix and occasional web surf yada yada your ok with the interruptions they don't affect you. If you are competitively gaming and you have obstructions you're going to hate your life and everyone in your discord is going to hate you as well.
UPDATE: We’ve now had Starlink at our cottage for almost a year.
Set Up: We go up about once a month, sometimes for a few days, sometimes longer. I store the dish in the basement when away. It takes a few minutes to put on the beach near the lake, where reception is the best. I run the wire through a slightly open window. The whole process including boot up time takes about 10 minutes. It worked perfectly in -30c or in 30c.
Speed: Generally we go from 2 to 150 mbps. Hard to say why exactly. Although a bit slow at times, we always have access to the web. During the day, we check email, read the news on browsers and stream radio. In the evening we watch the news or Netflix. While surfing, there can be interruptions for a few seconds. Streaming is largely seamless. We usually have at least 5 devices accessing internet, sometimes more.
Tree Issue: There are a ton of trees. I’ve done nothing to cut them back. I’m pro-tree.
Overall Impression After a Year: Starlink is expensive (we’re paying CAD$160 a month!), but perfect for our needs. Unlimited data, speed ok and bragging rights. No regrets at all.
They now have available the square (flat) dish antenna for limited visibility, I think it's called their performance dish? No clue on pricing but it's intended for in-motion and limited view of the sky.
I am in the same boat regarding trees and your video is very encouraging. Thank you for sharing your results and keep enjoying your beautiful property!
Thanks!
Thanks for your experiences with Starlink and trees. I will be receiving mine in two days and I am greatly encouraged that living among trees like you, I may have an very acceptable internet regardless of obstructions. I don’t game or video conference so my streaming may be pretty darn good.
My neighbor topped off a 100 foot pine tree and put the dish on top. Works great.
At 100 ft, I hope that it improves reception. Impressive ladder.
Does it work on a windy day? I would think that the wind would sway the tree which would mess up the satellite tracking.
I have to REALLY thank you for that little video. No one I can find has discussed this like you did with the details of the specific issue you face. I too am surrounded by trees, and have been quite concerned about the "interruption" issue. I do have one hole where the App says I'll have an interruption every four minutes - elsewhere on my property it's 40 or 50 seconds.. Of course, I had no idea if that would mean it would even work but you have answered that question. I don't have my unit yet in Southern Pennsylvania, but service where I live is limited to crappy DSL so I am very relieved to see your success and am more anxious than ever to get Starlink! Thank you again SO much for the posting.
Best of luck Dale. My understanding is that things will improve as more satellites get into orbit, so hopefully people with lots of trees like you and me will have fewer offline moments. We’ll see.
I have watched probably 10 to 15 starlink videos. I just watched yours. It's the best. You should enter it in a film festival. My starlink is arriving next week. Can't wait!
Much appreciated.
I watched a lot of videos before we got the dish, and was really worried about our tree situation.
It all worked out in the end.
Loved how quick and to the point you were, great video.
Thanks!
Trees makes good firewood for the coming winter 🥶😁🇨🇦🇨🇦
Excellent, your tree cover looks like my yard. I'm not asking for perfection and we're not online gamers so I will be giving starlink a try at our cabin!
Thank you for your encouraging video. I have suffered with poor quality Bell (land line based, supposedly "high speed" at a premium price) for far too long here in New Brunswick. No fibre op out here in the countryside besides Xplornet satellite (not as good as Starlink) and there really are no other options. I too have a lot of trees but not as closely enclosed as your property. I am really impressed with Starlink. I've switched my cellular to another company (Koodo) to enable wifi calling. That works great on Starlink! Unbelievable speed and connectivity and rarely any interruptions. I have my dish on the deck temporarily but will be going on the peak of my two story home where I am sure to get pristine reception.
Good to hear that things are working out. I find that stability has improved with more satellites in orbit. My only issue is paying $160 a month!
Thank you. This is exactly what I wanted to know. I'm considering putting an offer in on a house on a lake. I tried the obstruction app at the place, and the best location I found said an outage every 36 minutes. Sounds like that won't be much of an issue.
Much appreciated.
I suppose it depends on what you do online. For our purposes (at least four devices accessing the web, with two streaming Netflix all day and night), it works fine.
I noticed our speed dropped a bit in January. Not sure why, but even at 25 Mbs and a forest of trees, we still used it without issues.
Great video, thanks. Hopefully it will arrive in the Yukon, but not holding my breath. May I suggest like Steve Potts has and say put it on a pole. Maybe even crawl onto your roof and see if that helps. Good luck whatever way you do it. Cheers.
In the coming years it will be less of an issue when more Starlink shells are launched. Right now they are deploying shell two for the northernmost and southernmost latitudes. Next I presume more sats near the Equator, and then more dense coverage across USA/EU etc. To me it looks like a pole a tad out in the lake or well over the roof would be a good solution. You really only need 25 degrees horizon above the leaves.
@@la7dfa yeah, i heard they are putting satellites into polar orbits very soon. Before they could do that, they needed to work on the between satellite laser interlinks. Since they can't put ground stations on the North Pole
Yeah - for streaming and basic browsing, email and messaging, you will be ok. You will not be able to do any FaceTime or other video/voice calls. Also, you will not be able to keep the dish out there in that currently location over the winter. You could mount it on a pole 8 ft high or so. If you plan to keep the wire outside, I would put in some kind of conduit. I just used cheap 3/4 outdoor water pipe and it seems to be fine.
Thanks Steve. My plan over winter is to put Dishy on the frozen lake. Should improve things a lot.
Like the conduit idea.
I put up a 70 feet tower that cost me $3500 but now I literally have zero downtime.
Where did you get a 70 ft tower? Great idea
@@millerite4life there are few companies that can install it for you. They charge by each 10 feet pieces
Thanks for share. It's good news, there are a lot of trees too :)
I have 20 devices hooked up and 6 4K streams going.
I have obstructions every 10 minutes.
Planning on chopping the cluster of pines to my north east to be obstruction free next spring.
Location 44.5 Maine.
Nice! I also have many trees, with outages less often. No impact on streaming, but definite impact on interactive services like zoom calls. BTW, I put out a monthly report on my RUclips channel!
Thank you for not drawing out the video to 12 minutes
The way to solve your obstruction problem is to mount the starlink on a pole this is done by first inserting a slider on the pole which has a fitting for the starlink and then is pulled into place with a crank cable apparatus I've built one of these at my home I've also built one for my neighbor we are intensely populated woods in Oregon and have perfect reception
In my case, it would have to be the Mother of All Poles to get above the tree line. Given the reception I get, even surrounded by trees, it wouldn't be worth the time and expense.
post a picture of that i would like to see that
Love the information in this video! Good job! I am thinking about getting on the list for Starlink. I have used their app to determine how much obstruction I will get from the trees in the area. I am getting a percentage, roughly 12% obstruction. How do you estimate that in minutes/seconds? Do I have to actually have the equipment to figure that? Thank you
The Startlink app will tell you everything you need to know.
We've now been using it for 6 months. Still a ton of trees (although we moved it onto the lake, so fewer obstructions), and we can still do everything we want online . . . including Zoom.
Isn't it great we got ours a couple weeks ago and disconnected from bell right away I in New Brunswick I haven't done a video of it yet but I am going to.
Saying goodbye to Bell is a great feeling isn’t it?
Glad you made the video. I too have trees, not as many as you. I am no longer concerned. I had researched towers etc. to try and get above the trees, but 60 feet tower to get above the pines are expensive. Thanks.
I just bought 10 foot galvanized steel pole, then i bought the pipe adapter from starlink and i'll have it mounted on a tripod cinderblock setup. I have 60 foot pine trees surrounding my house
I'm gonna be in a similar situation.
Tree cover, but hopefully it'll work okay..
Je présume que si vous vivez au Québec depuis un certain temps, vous devez comprendre le français ou sinon Google traduction. Je suis dans une région très boisé tout comme un ami qui a installé "Starlink" à son chalet en Mauricie. Afin de bonifier la réception, il a installé une tour de communication de 50'. Il obtient plus de 100mb en download et upload. Netflix, RUclips et la téléphonie fonctionne à merveille. J'ai l'impression qu'il est assis à côté de moi... De mon côté, j'ai installé une tour de 60' cette été en vue de l'installation de Starlink. L'avantage de la tour, c'est de pouvoir partagé ton wifi avec tes voisins et tes coûts... Mais, ça c'est une autre histoire. Merci d'avoir partagé votre expérience!
Hey there, great video! I was curious if the light on your Starlink router goes red temporarily when you drop connection. Thank you!
To be honest, the router sits in our porch. I've never noticed if it goes red or not.
You have a beautifull house ! I have the same problem and as a teacher doing lots of online classes and live streaming, Starlink is not for me.......Too bad.
Thanks!
If you get it higher it will help. App said interruption every 4 seconds. Streaming was fine but I couldnt online game with it but now I can. 10 foot metal pool attached to a 16 ft 6 x 6 helped a lot.
Thanks - I'm beginning to think about putting mine on a pole. Or maybe not.
If trees are close and large enough to obstruct star link on your roof they are probably close enough to fall on your house and set it on fire, chop them down and make a proper fire break
Thanks. The cottage has many large trees that we keep an eye on. Cutting them all down would be hard and would make us very unpopular.
I rent where there's an HOA. The forest is ridiculously dense here. I can't just go chopping down trees or putting up towers for dishes. But if I'm sneaky maybe I can hide the antenna somewhere that it could work.
Now that the leaves are off the trees, how much better is it, or is it better? Thanks
I was at the cottage about a month ago, with few leaves in the trees. It set up fast and provided steady internet for the days we were there. It makes sense to think that fewer leaves means clearer access to the sky.
@@GrahamToppHongKong The attenuation depends on the moisture of the leaves and for any crops in the fall. So in general spring is the worst time with juicy new leaves.
Cool!
Im glad its working for you even with the trees, but something to remember is the trees will continue to grow and block your signal. But its working for now so just cross that bridge when you come to it.
Any update?
Yeah, a lot of trees... However, that is why you live there. So, consider this. Trees are really towers. Hello. Spoken like a ham radio operator.
Also, tell me about the last time you checked for interruptions in your cable broadband? Like never, right? No one does. All of a sudden we have this criteria to test for. WIFI calling might not like it, but some buffering would take care of that.
Just clear cut the trees like in BC
I've had starlink for 3 months now and i get interruptions every minute due to all the tall pine trees that are on other peoples property's. Today i bought a 10 foot galvanized steel pole, just waiting on starlink to send me my pipe adapter which they are taking like over a month to ship. Also don't keep your cable on the ground, I'm on my 3rd starlink dish since rodents keep eating on the cable because tesla/spacex/starlink coat their wires in soybean oil for some reason and rodents love eating tesla's wiring and starlink's dishy wire! Imagine all the tesla's out there that street park their car longer than a week yikes. If your just planning on youtubing netflix and occasional web surf yada yada your ok with the interruptions they don't affect you. If you are competitively gaming and you have obstructions you're going to hate your life and everyone in your discord is going to hate you as well.
Same issue regarding the trees but I’m still ordering it because my internet available is probably worse