Kenshiro vs the Jojoverse
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2022
- Want to address three things down here in case people ask. "Why didn't you include C moon?" I kinda forgot about c moons existence, I think it could do well against base ken but MT would destroy it, "Can ken see stands" I addressed this in my ken v jotaro video but very poorly. I said there ken could see stands since he has one, Another Extremely valid point is its been stated multiple times martial artist can see energy so its not crazy to believe that ken could now. "ken can technically do soryu tenha, it destroy every jojo ability" it can, it's crazy OP, I forgot that Ken learned every hokuto ability along with the fact I've never seen SNK so I couldn't comment on it but it's an option I didn't bring up here. #fistofthenorthstar #hokutonoken #jojosbizzareadventure
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Kenshiro is the most broken character in the anime, it doesn't matter that he faces immortal gods, if Kenshiro hits him, it's over because he put pressure on his Tsubos, although he doesn't stop reviving, he can't regenerate, his body has been damaged, and Rin also says very clearly to Sachi in the Manga that Kenshiro cannot lose against an opponent with whom he has fought, but if that were not enough not only does he have the Migatte with which no one could touch him, Kenshiro uses the Mirror Water and becomes an alter ego . of his opponent. Even though they were faster than Ken, it is too obvious that no one has their level of perfection in terms of technique, in other words, you are already dead.
Finally someone understands how extremely overpowered Hokuto Shinken is
Want to address three things down here in case people ask. "Why didn't you include C moon?" I kinda forgot about c moons existence, I think it could do well against base ken but MT would destroy it, "Can ken see stands" I addressed this in my ken v jotaro video but very poorly. I said there ken could see stands since he has one, Another Extremely valid point is its been stated multiple times martial artist can see energy so its not crazy to believe that ken could now. "ken can technically do soryu tenha, it destroy every jojo ability" it can, it's crazy OP, I forgot that Ken learned every hokuto ability along with the fact I've never seen SNK so I couldn't comment on it but it's an option I didn't bring up here. But if I did bring it up it would make literally every jojo villian lose. It would take away there stands and just make it ken v whoever he's fighting which would functionally be an instant win for ken.
ALSO PS I DUNNO WHY I NEVER CORRECTED IT.
In the video I said falcos nanto when falcos technique is gento Koken, doesn't change anything I said about using it just a slip of the tongue with its name.
Ken would detect the differences in air pressure caused by stands, he doesn't need to see them because he can sense them.
EDIT: also you forgot part seven and eight, are you gonna make a follow up?
@@cooldud7071 if I ever read them sure. I was originally going to include the villian from p8, along with Diego and funny valentine from p7 but I wasn't really sure about what I was saying so I cut it.
@@Mczprosvids Ahh okay.
for kars : falco had that ice move which since ken has MT he can freeze kars since he is freezable ken can use MT on him and kill him since Ken is too fast
for vanilla ice : i'm pretty sure MT is invincible for that kind of thing
for johnathan : no way my man is gonna fight such a gentleman
No Falco did not *freeze* anything, he _heated up_ the ground and because it was sand it turned into glass from the heat.
@@Haispawner no
Falco's technique is called "Metto kose Jin,, aka golden frost palm formation
Gento can burn and freeze on cellular level as Solia explained
Read the manga
Yo my Man, Ken also has Telekinesis, like that one time he reversed the flow of an entire waterfall. He could easily send Kars into space using Telekinesis. There's also one thing you're forgetting, You're talking about the Skyscraper feat as if it's impressive, when Ken in the manga, destroyed a Bunker that could deflect a Hydrogen Bomb.
Also in chapter 165
There is a scene where Falco died so hard that he destroyed polaris(gento star)
@@brothersofwrath4785 Does that count as Attack potent or Striking strength?
@@jojobutnotjojo4918 you have examples in fiction when a character dies and causes a big bang or universe to explode
There is a possibility that Falco destroyed the star with his soul as we see Falco's image appearing in the star's place after it blows up
@@jojobutnotjojo4918 another reason why it could be the case is because we had a similar example when Shu died and his blood crumbled the holy mausoleum of Souther's master Oghai
The waterfall scene was a filler and the skyscraper was a scene from the movie, which is not canon. So I wouldn't consider those to be actual feats
1.About Vanilla Ice,
Ken's faster,Has precog,is better suited in fighting so yeah no point in matching
2.Killer Queen,
Killer queen's bombs don't work on ken as he has survived way better than those puny blasts...I see BTD working tho
3.Purple haze
Can resist poisons through Pressure points........
4. Gold Experience
Ken can tank his own hits
REQUIEM'S strength isn't enough to hurt Ken
5.DiaBORO
Kingu Crimson isn't damaging Ken
Ken also has the epitaph thing(Which RAOH has)
6. Made in heaven
was just fast enough to create a blur(Almost 600kmh) slow as heck
Infinite speed refers to the resetting universe thing
GREAT VIDEO BTW 👍
The Made in Heaven thing is easily false since JoJo characters are easily Massively Faster than light, and it was stated its speed increases as the acceleration progresses reaching infinite speed. Will say not like it matters since Pucci doesn’t have any way to hurt Kenshiro.
"Killer Queens bombs don't work on Ken"
Buddy...Killer Queens bombs are not quantifiable by the size or destructive power of its explosion, it just erases whatever it turns into a bomb. Kenshiro at the very least is getting disfigured.
@@Hevenlee jagi, the most fodder villain in the show tanked a nuke. Also their master and Ken is a LOT stronger than any of the previous successors due to musou tensei
@@shinyzoroark4506 I understand that, but that doesn't change the fact that Killer Queen's bomb isn't an energy based explosion that does damage based on how much power is put into the explosion- it just erases whatever it blows up. As in it doesn't matter how much durability you have it will still erase you.
@@Hevenlee josuke and okuyasu survived the explosions, as did jotaro who are all fodder compared to a goon from fist of the north star in terms of durability
12:54 melts human flesh
Meanwhile Jukei was able to melt steel to the point of evaporation in chaptet 180 with his demonic aura
Kenshiro endured Kaioh's chi aura which is even more powerful than that
The thing with putting HnK characters against JoJo characters is that most stand users are mostly normal humans who also happen to have strong abilities, they could be easily killed by normal circunstances, while HnK characters are basically superhumans who easily go through said circunstances
Yea. Hnk characters are God's compared to jojo characters by themselves. Even in non Canon games where the other jojos met jonathon they said he was scarily powerful and he'd be near nothing in comparison
You forgot to mention PB Dio's hypnosis, although i'm pretty sure Kenshiro would will through it anyway.
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Can't ken just read the future? Just like how raoh did? I mean, Anything raoh has done, ken can probably also do
Musou insatsu
@@brothersofwrath4785 wow i didn't know it had a name lol i tought it's some random ability
I know I'm not the first to bring up ways Ken could kill Kars, but my argument is for Ultimate Kars. I also have a smaller thing for the Pillar Men in general.
For Ultimate Kars vs Musuo Ken, *assuming* getting hit by an MT user when you're not in MT yourself is similar to being hit with a blackhole, then that would actually hurt Kars since blackholes tear you down to your atoms. Yes, that is an assumption, but I don't think it's *too* big of a stretch.
Second, I am pretty sure Pillar Men could be affected by Tōki, assuming it counts as life energy in the same way Hamon does. So Ken might not even need to use Nanto to kill the base Pillar Men.
Granted, I'm far less knowledgeable about both series, but especially JoJo. So I could most definitely be wrong.
Edit: Wow. Another heart from M himself! I am honored!
The Gento Koken can destroy people to the cellular level, it can evaporate people, we also saw the Tento Seiin Ken, in Fist of the Blue Sky Regenesis, that can turn people to dust by leaching/manipulating their life energy, Ken should have acces to this as he should hold the memories of Kasumi after he did the rite of passage before fighting Kaioh
Hokuto Shinken is invincible. All who face it will only meet death.
I feel like eny reality warping stand ability should not be able to work on kenshrio or mt kenshiro. Because after he got his seels lifted he became sorta emuin to reality warping attack. Like he tank a full power anryu tenha blast from a demon form kaioh in base.
What if it was Jonathan who fought the Hokutoverse?
Kenshiro: do i need to say anything?
Jagi: g u n
Toki: prob hed just use Hokuto Ujou Hagan Ken and Jonathans done
Raoh: prob with just brute force jon's head would come off
Shin: maybe shin would use that move similar to the Hyakuretsu Ken (idr da name)
Rei: Nanto Suichou Ken would do the job for itself
Yuda: being also a Nanto rokusei Ken, i doubt Jon winning
Shuu: his kicks are too powerful
Souther: Jonathan would never know souzers Secret
Yuria: yep, yurias dead
Ryuuken: the Spirit of The Seven Stars of Hokuto would absolutely DESTROY Jonathan
Hyuui: the wind is too fast
Shuren: Jonathan would be carbonized
Riaku: maybe Jonathan would have a chance, but riaku is the most experience gosha
Juuza: the strongest Nanto Goshasei, would destroy Jonathan
Fudou: Fudou just... Falls onto Jonathan, Fudou's a fucking mountain
Jakou: jakous a coward, hed just die by Sunlight Yellow Overdrive
Falco: yep, no chance for Jonathan
Shouki: same as Falco
Soria: Jon COULD have a chance, but Gento Kouken would be much more powerful
Boltz: same as Soria
Taiga: same as Soria and Boltz
Han: Jonathan would be already dead and he wouldnt ser a Fist from han
Hyoh: seriously? This guy is a Monster
Kaioh:... Jonathan would get OBLITERATED
Final results?
Hokutoverse 23-2 Jonathan
I always somehow misread the title as Kenshiro vs the Japanese lol
He's finally revolting
how are there comments the video is like 2 seconds old 🤣
Hokuto shinken secret technique. Musou Tensei
I know you mentioned you dont know enough about Part 7-8, but really would like to see how Ken does against the really busted stands like Tusk Act 4, D4C Love Train, Wonder of U, and Soft and Wet Go Beyond.
pretty sure musou tensei works a bit like go beyond
Kenshiro would lose to Tusk Act 4 but the issue is that Kenshiro would just hit him before Johnny gets to fire an infinite rotation. D4C Love Train doesn’t really do anything it just leaves the battle in a stalemate. Wonder of U is one of the few Stands that might be able to defeat Kenshiro. Against Soft & Wet Go Beyond same as Johnny, Josuke would get blitzed before he can fire the bubbles.
Hokuto Shinken is with 1800/2000(in Anime) History Tradition that has only one Successor by the Deadly Tradition of Ishisoden,No one has Managed to defeat it,HOKUTO SHINKEN MUTEKIDO(its invisible)
Lets also not forget that Kenshiro is the 64th Successor plus a Carrier of Hokuto Soke Linage,so thats a bonus which makes him unique by all the predecessors
For Echoes Act 3 Kira was able to go around Morioh with the effects of Act 3, i don't think Act 3 would effect Ken to begin with.
Let's remember the massive gap in power, both in ap and durability no one in part 1 goes over city, same for part 2, most Stands are at most building, Ken's durability is in base form (shirt on) is country and at full power he is continental/multy continental.
Any strike from Ken just by raw force would *end* anyone from part 1 and 2 just by brute force, he doesn't really need to use pressure points for this fights, vampires aren't coming back from getting turned into red mist by a punch or by a Toki blast, same goes for the pilar man, from what we saw Perfect Kars's regen may not be able to take him back from that either, not to mention that the power itself may destroy his cells, we also have at least 2 instances of Ken disintegrating people with ease (3 if we count the anime one), also its worth pointing out that the pillar man may be susceptible to pressure points as the stone mask worked on them, granted they may be able to move them and Ken may not be able to find them.
Ken could no problem predict Diavolo's moves we know that Ken has the Muso Insatsu (a better MUI) is said by Raoh that this is triggered even before the enemy thinks of attacking, knowing what is going to happen is good but if your enemy fully matches you or surpasses you in stats it at most equalizes the thing, Ken's ranged Toki attacks that whould be invisible to Diavolo, Ken's aura and MT would be almost if not fully impossible for him to surpass.
One thing to note stands are manifestations of someone's fighting spirit. It's entirely feasible nil thought reincarnation would work on stands too.
The only things in JJBA that I see troubling Kenny are MiH (infinite speed), Tusk Act 4 (multiversal hax), maybe Love Train, WoU (a concept that operates in a multiversal+ scale), S&W: GB (transcends logic and is above WoU since it’s 5D and has inaccessible speed). I can go more in depth if need be.
Ken could use ki manipulation to condense oxygen around Pucci and knock him out of Made in Heaven
This is true, though I don't think he'd need to knock him out of made in heaven. If he managed to even atleast stun him to hit him its just over
You see the problem with that is that Pucci is quite literally infinitely faster than him
@@thegameguardian103 kenshiro is faster than light
He reacts to Falco and Solia who use condensed light for their techniques
Pucci is 800KM
@@brothersofwrath4785 You do know that was just speculation from the characters prospective. For Pucci having infinite speed is quite literally in his Stands Stats. And for other JoJo characters they range from 400 FTL to 40000 FTL due to the Hangman feat. Where silver chariot speed blitz hangman who is a stand who travels through reflections otherwise known as light. Silver chariot did this with all armour mind you. So this is a low ball in terms of say star platinum speed.
@@thegameguardian103 stand stats are out of context and sugar coated. Polnaref's statement was that it looked faster than light but something that fast does not have to be faster than light in order to be invisible to a normal human eye+ a car outsped it.
Star platinum fails to dodge a car, a fodder ghoul and a 38 000 KM person moving at him
Pucci got himself killed by Emporio due to his cockiness
🤓"Kenshiro Punches Jojo verse into Another Galaxsy"🤓
Lmao you love that comment haha
@@blaykay-4797 check " Kenshiro vs Ty Lee(avatar)thread,, to see the origin of it
Hi 👋😁
If they met Kasumi Kenshiro, then Soryu Tenra would be busted as all hell.
Kenshiro IS that GUY.
This guy really downplays Fist of the North Star and JoJo.
JoJo characters are easily massively faster than light about 1200 times faster than light, with city level attack potency.
Characters especially Kenshiro are easily way faster and stronger, Continental level attack potency and easily over a billion times faster than light.
Kenshiro easily solos most JoJo characters, you’d need Heavy Weather, Tusk Act 4, Go Beyond or Wonder of U some of the most broken Stands.
I'mma say Soryu Tenra>All of the JoJo verse
If I ever make a kasumi kenshiro v jojo that's definitely a valid point. It overule pretty much every stand ability.
@@Mczprosvids No like OG Kenshiro also has Soryu Tenra
Cuz after lifting seals he can use each and every technique in the history of Hokuto Shinken
@@jojobutnotjojo4918 this....is definitely a valid point. I definitely forgot about that....good lord. Good thing you brought that up. Now there's a trump card similar to what I said about MT vs MUI. I'm not gonna mention that in this video cuz I never thought about it but I'll keep it in mind for future
@@Mczprosvids :)
@@jojobutnotjojo4918 your kidding soryu tenra isn’t even that impressive just a very weak sauce reality marble that doesn’t even control the reality around it
Kenshiro slaps jojo verse into another galaxy
You really forgot about:
1. [Wonder of You]
2. [Made in Heaven]
3. [Tusk Act 4]
4. [D4C LT]
5. [TWOH]
@@Lifegotmid soryu tenra and facts that stand hax did not work on stronger foe
@@brothersofwrath4785 If Stands haxs "Dont work" on People stronger than the User? 🤡
Then how Stand Users can fight each other 🤡?
@@Lifegotmid koichi overpowering Yukako' hax through just brute strength
Pucci in his first fight with jojo resisted time stop before he got acceleration hax
Ken vs the Baki verse?
W video
Thanks!
you didn't post about how powerful is raoh ?
You mean you wanted me to compare a jojo villian to him strength wise?
@@Mczprosvids No that a good idea but i mean show people how strong is really Raoh .
@@maxdeen1298 I think when I was making this the only feat I could think of off the top of my head was him cracking that giant wall in lost paradise, I knew he had more but I couldn't think of any when I made this. When I make any future ones I'll definitely do that.
@@Mczprosvids I'm talking about Manga Raoh not video game
@@maxdeen1298 I know, I couldn't think of any in manga feats is what I was saying, I knew he had them but at the time of editing I couldn't think of any
Bearded ken solos fiction negative diff
can D4C beat ken?
It's defo possible. That's one of those "it comes down to soryu" type things. Cuz I don't see ken killing valentine or dealing with that stand any other way
can ken defeat dio heaven?
Soryu tenra
Kenshiro when:
1) [GER]
2) [Made in Heaven]
3) [D4C]
4) [Tusk Act 4]
5) [Wonder of You]
6) [TWOH]
7) [Novel Stands]
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Those stand users when Kenshiro's Musou Tensei evolves into something even more ridiculous :
@@blaykay-4797 You mean "Ultra Instict"?
@@Lifegotmid Dont you dare call Musou Tensei "ultra instinct"
GER would easily be at the bottom of the list since it’s way to slow to even use its main ability so it’d have to fight normally making him useless as Star Platinum would be better to send in for direct fights.
Made In Heaven is reasonable but a common theme among all JoJo characters are either the lack of speed or attack potency to kill Kenshiro.
D4C just stalemates but gets beaten many times over, most likely just get knocked out.
Tusk Act 4 would work but Johnny himself is too slow to fire the infinite rotation.
Wonder of U can work though it’s AP is questionable since it has only hurt part 8 characters who I believe at best are wall level.
The World Over Heaven would work though might lack speed to use it’s reality warping ability, though you can make a case it could pass for infinite speed given DIO was able to react to Johnny’s infinite rotation which can be said to be infinite speed, and say that DIO would be above Pucci with Made In Heaven. This scaling is all on not very solid foundation so i wouldn’t use it personally.
This is definitely where they’d beat Kenshiro.
I don't understand english, go on russian
лучшее, что я могу сделать для тебя, это перевести Google, короче говоря, Кен топает всех, кроме Ultimate Kars и GER.