He's also not at his strongest in this timeline, it takes DIO ascending to godhood and gaining The World Over Heaven for Jotaro to also gain that sort of power. Jotaro takes down a god because their stands are similar.
@@moonkingdomify they are similar, so they can *naturally* do the same thing BUT Dio needed to reach heaven to get this power, while jotaro didn't, so it makes no sense
(not sure if you are joking) Ken's pressure points negate durability cuz they worked on Jagi who tanked a nuke. Only way you are surviving that is if you have good internal durability, not be human, regenerate pretty good or just outright be omnipotent.
@Clout Gang Ken scales to Jagi who can tank a nuke. Star Platinum or The World has never shown the capability of being able to wipe out a country. Yes Ken is durable enough to tank anything Jotaro throws at him lol.
@Clout Gang You do realize that Star Platinum's timestop is like 5 seconds in Part 6, and Kenshiro has Muso Tensei which turns his body into nothingness and hides his presence within the universe itself. Kenshiro also has a technique called Tenha Kassastu which can pretty much be qualified as ranged thus meaning Kenshiro can go out of Jotaro's range of timestop and hit Jotaro's pressure points with said technique. I do like JoJo and FOTNS, but I just think Kenshiro has more abilities on his end.
@Clout Gang Jotaro can't punch at the speed of light lol. Reacting to speeds of light like Made in Heaven doesn't mean he can punch at the speed of light.
@@PatrickWilliams-ip5wz He means the one which is 20meters and literally shoots from all directions. It was only deflected/ignored because the enemy had stopped time.
Jotaro should have allowed his grandpa to fight Kenshiro. It would have been great to see Old Joseph tell some stuff like “Your next line is, “Omae wa mou shindeiru”” then Ken follows up with “Omae wa mou shindeiru” only for both of them to explode
if you watch FONS you know Kenshiro has some sense of humor, he'll probably answer Joseph "bingo", and Joseph would be like "IKR! oh waii.... uwaaeeekkk" lol
@@relaxstaycalm1906 the only annoyance is joseph actually follows the words of those people the exact second they're saying it, but the anime doesnt show it and splits it as two parts. would be absolutely hilarious to see that happen tho
Not fair, Kenshiro is from a rare anime verse that actually follows real time. If Kenshiro says his opponents will die in 30 seconds after he hits them with a pressure point technique, they actually die in 30 seconds. Jotaro's 5 second timestop would be meaningless.
@@Ali-vc4cc As opposed to the anime where it takes two men 3 minutes to fall down a three-story mansion through its chimney, and not even get halfway before bursting through the wall of the second floor.
That's if they're fighting in his universe, either way star platinum moves at the speed of light (or close to when using this DB statement) more than fast enough to kill a mf within fractions of a second 🗿
@@yellow_flash813 *"star platinum moves at the speed of light (or close to when using this DB statement)"* It doesn't move anywhere _close_ to that fast. Even in top form.
Yeah, but they aren't really relevant here. The most significant techniques that Ken learned in the 2nd half of HnK was to deal with Kaioh's anti-Musuo Tensei abilities
@@shotgun6X Not really, they left out ap, durability and speed feats from the first and second parts of HnK, they didn't even give a number for Ken's speed and in ap they made him city block when he is at least country lvl, then they did a very shalow dip in his range attacks limiting him to only one attack when he has several more which would had given him an absurd edge as they are invisible area of effect attacks.
@@JR_22A true but was it needed they down played him because all he has to do is one tap him tbh my guy could’ve been the weakest person in the world his techniques are the reason he will still win especially against people who’s cocky af 🤷🏾♂️
if we take scaling of jotaro into account, canon scaling btw, he can move light speed/faster than light speed, and the punches of star platinum can be compared to getting hit by a truck with each punch, and he can stop time of course for technically an infinite amount of time given enough practice
Plot twist: the kenshiro jotaro is fighting was summoned by bohemian rhapsody (ungalo's stand), the real kenshiro would never attack jotaro unintentionally like that
I've seen both, it was just disappointing the fight could have been so much more fun, like with their dio vs Alucard video, instead it boils down to, "yeah he got touched GG EZ"
and now that I see it, technically Jotaro CANNOT lose, his destiny is to die as a consequence of DIO, so the result is marked by the inevitable destiny
It'll always bug me that this video, and all the arguing below, never showcase that Kenshiro has a stand. It appeared in fotns2 and effortlessly bodied the big bad Kaioh.
@@realamericannegro977 Still Kenshiro. Even if DIO had range, SRSE requires blood to use. Kenshiro, meanwhile, has an omnidirectional aura that can instakill, ranged lasers that can instakill, nuclear blasts he calls punches that can hit so hard nothing remains, all of that without using Musou Tensei.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 I believe it and I was thinking that. Dio can freeze anyone that comes into contact but Kenshiro is so powerful that he likely will overcome that with either speed or rising his body heat if his fist did freeze. Didn't Hokuto no ken have a Nanto Seiken guy that did something similar to Dio's freezing?
@@realamericannegro977 Ryuga, yes. Though Ryuga's was stronger since he had the Nanto Seiken slicing on top of his ice, but he still got clapped at the end.
Hokuto Shinken is too broken to lose. Masters of Hokuto Shinken have the ability to transport themselves and their opponents into a pocket dimension AND can nullify powers (Soryu Tenra). They can also instantaneously learn any technique and even read an entire fighting style just from one or two moves. (Suieishin). These are just two of the hilariously broken techniques that Ken can use and there's an entire catalogue of broken moves for him to use.
He would literally mop the floor of the stardust crusaders,dio,the pillar men,jouske and his other friends,kira yoshikage with or without bites the dust, the members of the passione,and diavolo
@@azizkalb8721 oh crap and I was about to say that, Araki himself stated that he doesn't knows about it's potential or if giorno can control GER but one thing I'm aware is that the arrow will last on GER permanently
@Neptune, Nico, Danny, Shaymin, and Friends @Neptune, jotaro tried to stop the time, but the time was already stopped by kenshiro (the time was already dead)
@@abdalkaderalbiss7705 Although most of the data is wrong and the Jojo bias was at full blast, the result is accurate, even if Jotaro could spam TS that would only buy him 1-5 more seconds of life nothing more.
@@abdalkaderalbiss7705 Doesn't take a genius to realize that a super soldier capable of walking through skyscrapers would be able to tank hits even if time were stopped.
Jotaro stuffed the magazines after revealing to Dio that he could move in stopped time because he predicted that Dio would use projectiles - his clothes are not always full of them.
SPOILERS Funny watching stone ocean and realizing this fight could have technically happened in Jojo canon during a small window of time while Kenshiro just EXISTED in the Jojo world.
If you watch Fist of the north star, you would realize that Jotaro has 0 chance of defeating kenshiro. Kenshiro can literally vaporize jotaro with his aura alone, he doesn't need to do anything. He can even throw Saitama punches (punching the air and destroying buildings or splitting the sky in two just by the shockwave of his punch) Also, fun fact: Kenshiro also has a stand.
@@lunararmy1624 Not a stand, but something similar. in episode 138 Both shachi and kenshiro were ambushed by kaioh. Kenshiro was unconscious, at the time, so his fighting aura came out of him in a humanoïd form and scared kaioh's energy into hiding inside his body. Since araki was heavily influenced by fist of the north star, i wouldn't be surprise to know that he got his inspiration for his stands from fist of the north star too
@@melvinmalonga4068 it makes perfect sense, Jotaro just says Za Warudo because that was the name Dio had for his stand, which had the ability to stop time. Doesn't sound that cool to just say "Star Platinum, Stop time" vs "Star Platinum, ZA WARUDDOOOOOOO". Yes?
yes but heres the thing. hardness is a loaded term. especialy when talking about strenght. Hardness in corolation to diamond, his basicaly scratch resistance. the real term they want to use his tensile strenght. Or strenght. Take for example. a steel beam. and a hypothetical beam made of diamond. and punch it until 1 breaks. The diamond one will break. much much faster and easier then steel. Because the harder the material the more brittle it is. for real. YOU. could break a diamond, all it takes his a hammer and a good swing. A real strenght feat for SP is the road roller. SP and dio. both of em punching it. and they didnt break it.
Plus, Ken's already fought Shin who could crush diamonds with his fingertips all the way in the early seasons, long before Raoh, Toki and Jagi were part of the equation.
I just found out, that Fallout New Vegas has an Easter egg referencing Fist Of The North Star. In the Lonesome Road DLC, you can fight a giant Deathclaw named Rawr. If you have the Wild Wasteland Perk, when you use Rawr's Talon to craft a unique Deathclaw Gauntlet, it will be named "Fist Of The North Rawr"
If I may add to this thread of Hokuto references; Superboy from Young Justice makes a Hokuto reference in the latest episode Seraphimon from Digimon is a literal reference *to* Kenshiro Cody has a color swap based off Kenshiro in Street Fighter X Tekken
That and Jotaro’s stand, Star Platinum which is basically just Kenshiro using Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken. Araki is what you would call a massive Hokuto No Ken fanboy.
@@charlesb3751 Indeed Toki was the Godfist, with his heavenly hand technique people died on orgasms from its beauty, truly horrific way to die, shame the disease took him away, but he loved his brothers, and he knew Ken would excel to full power if he died.
It is crazy how this matchup even exists. Kenshiro just outclasses Jotaro in every way. Man killed a guy who is multi-continental and scales to a guy who dodged 1 quadrillion punches. This battle should have been a full on murder
@@starflatinum683 He's fought people that don't leave a shadow behind, and Garuda whom actually is light speed. What evidence is there of SP being FTL other than a featless statement? Wait don't tell me, that Hanged Man story. Hanged Man isn't light speed at all, only evidence for that comes from Polnareff, but 1 problem, something that small doesn't need to be faster than light to be invisible to the naked eye (plus he's a moron). Hanged Man literally was getting outsped by a car while Kakyoin and Polnareff were having a 4-7 minute conversation in a fully sped car. FTL is an exaggeration. Plus how does Polnareff even look at Hanged Man jumping from reflection to reflection without snapping his own normal human neck at that speed?
@@Violetenist Okay they are different but they do have a fair amount of simularitys for example all of both are somehow linked to a tarot card and they both manifest as a being floating just behind them in most scenarios (note: i am not a guy who watches anime so please correct me on any facts that i get wrong)
Kenshiro is the original OG of manly awesomeness in anime and manga. So much so that all other anime, manga, and video games since has branched from him and the anime he is from. I had absolute confidence that he would defeat JoJo, by whom, would be like one of the many side characters to show up in one or a few episodes of Fist of the Northstar.
Originally I thought "Only Stand users can see other Stands" but when I found out that Kenshiro can use his spirit energy, he basically used his power to give himself the ability to look at and hit Stands. He IS a Stand
@@Bap-wv7ur thats truth, but its only in Jojo's universe. In Death Battle they have to see the tiny details to find out if certain situations are met, and Kenshiro being able to see Stands is one of them,as his ability to percive someones fighting spirit kind of relates with Stand rules.
Let's just settle this whole dispute. Jotaro has *NOTHING* in his arsenal that can reliably harm Kenshiro, let alone kill him. Here's why: The heart crush wouldn't work since losing vital organs is a paper cut in HnK. Ken himself had his heart slashed up by Rei during the Kiba Daioh storyline. This isn't an outlier either since Hyoh fought without his heart, a few crushed lungs and a broken spine and still mopped up an army. Toki fought while dealing with both Ryuga's lethal arts and his terminal radiation. Jyuza fought while _literally dead._ Hell, Ken could be completely unconscious and he'd still win this Death Battle considering he was fighting Kaioh while comatosed. There's also one major detail that the analysis forgot; omnidirectional aura. They only pointed out straightforward ranged attacks but didn't take into account that all Hokuto practitioners have a lethal aura that can kill someone from hundreds of meters away if they wanted to. So really, Jotaro approaching him was the moment he died. As for durability, Ken destroys a bunker full of nukes head-on, takes blows from Raoh who can conjure up natural disaster-levels of attacks, nullified _spatial manipulation_ and even a fellow Musou Tensei user (read: intangibility, summoning and existence erasure all in one). We're not even going to discuss power and hax since Ken has all of that in spades, but because some people are clueless, Kenshiro has Musou Tensei, an automatic technique that's basically intangibility, existence erasure, summoning and void manipulation all in one broken ass package. After the second round against Kaioh, add spatial manipulation resistance. Even if Kenshiro didn't have every Nanto and Hokuto technique in his arsenal and only had Musou Tensei, it's still an unimaginable stomp in his favor.
THANK YOU. Yes, Kenshiro's aura was powerful enough to reverse the flow of a massive waterfall, so that alone should be proof enough. And stopping time wouldn't help, either, because that aura would still exist while time is stopped; just like how Joseph's Ripple was still active, hence why DIO had to throw knives instead of touching him.
@@KalibreSteelblast Yup. Time stop does not nullify passive effects such as Hamon, meaning Jotaro would waste his limited usage. I also forgot to take stamina into account. Jotaro can only last a whole night's worth of combat. Kenshiro can fight at peak strength for _months without food or water._
@@brothersofwrath4785 Ken can quickly recover from physical damage. He got slashed up in the heart and continued to turn Kiba Daioh and his goons into salsa. He was put in a comatose state by Kaioh and still ran his fade. He was almost lethally injured by Souther and still indented him across the pyramid. And by the time Bolge was part of the equation (AKA the final boss), the only injuries he sustained were intentional gambits to troll the opponent that, again, he recovered from. He's even tanked existence erasure extraordinaire Musou Tensei from Raoh and won. He's taken spatial manipulation in the form of Anryu Tenha and won. If we're going to go that far into downplaying, people keep saying Jotaro's MFTL but that's the feat that killed him? He lost the Stand rush clash with Polnareff and only had to get himself stabbed to stand a chance to break Anubis? He lost the Stand rush clash with DIO multiple times and only won through trickery and deception? He couldn't handle Sheer Heart Attack's existence erasure bombs _at a distance_ without needing a medic? He had time stop and everything yet couldn't both stop MiH's attack and save his daughter? Meanwhile, Kenshiro has evaded attacks from Falco who was shooting actual light and Han who was so fast _light itself couldn't move fast enough to cast a shadow on him._ Even in the early series, Shin could break diamonds into powder with his fingertips and still got his chest caved in. Couple that with the automatic intangibility/existence erasure combo, even if Ken was paralyzed, had the attack potency of a wet fart and broke easier than a Twitter user, nothing Jotaro does would ever matter. I know you meant it as a joke but people actually tried that.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 in chapter 122 Raoh turned his skin denser than steel. Spears and axes broke against his skin Then there are those who use the scene where Kenshiro pulled Fudo out of a quicksand with one arm as a proof that his other arm was hurt by arrows and thus ineffective
I was going to contend your point, but... I will concede that Naruto as a whole is far too dense to penetrate. Best if Kenshiro just aims for the head.
@@theknightwhosealsthedarkne9756 normally no. But this is Death battle, so he has to kill his opponent, and to kill someone like Kenshiro, you either have to crush his brain or heart out, as he just won't die from Star Platinum punch anyway.
@@markconstance186 that's the thing Jotaro could've used the heart stopping skill when DIO was stopped in his time. See Jotaro even donuted DIO that's Ultimate kill for a human that Jotaro could've used on kenshiro.
@@theknightwhosealsthedarkne9756 Dio is a vampire tho. A vampire don’t die from getting it brain or heart crushed that easily. Otherwise, even someone like Polnareff with Silver Chariot would have take Dio down already simply by stabbing his heart. If I remember correctly, Kenshiro survived being donut before by Raoh already, so I don’t think that would really be enough.
*Why you can't scale both Part 3 and 7 ZA WARUDO* Although the two share basically the same name and the Stands themselves appear to be very similar in shape, Diego's THE WORLD is a different Stand from the original one used by DIO. Naming convention The first thing we need to cover is the names. In the original release for Part 3 of JoJo in Shonen Jump, DIO's The World was spelled with the kanji for 'world' (世界) but was supposed to be pronounced as ザ ∙ ワルド, which can be said as 'Za Warudo', or 'The World', while in Part 7, Diego's THE WORLD was spelled entirely in English letters. Biology This could most likely be chalked up to the change in art style that JoJo has had in the 20 years between the release of Part 3 and 7, but while DIO's version is considerably muscular, Diego's version is much more slim and closer to an 'athletic' body than DIO's version. Attack style DIO's version was known to utilize a rapid punch attack while he shouted 'MUDA MUDA MUDA' at his opponent (muda is the word for 'useless' in Japanese) and possessed super strength, however Diego's version does not possess this quality, and is used exclusively to stop time and using throwing knives rather than use only melee attacks. This is shown more clearly in the 'Eyes of Heaven' video game, where both DIO and AU Diego appear, where DIO's version uses punches and kicks primarily and Diego's version uses slower, normal paced attacks. Evolution When DIO first received The World, he had to train with it for around four years to bring his time stop up from two seconds to five, later gaining more seconds when he drank the blood of Joseph Joestar and healed his body. The original Diego Brando received Scary Monsters early on in Part 7, however the alternate universes that are talked about in this part are supposed to be extremely similar to the one the story takes place in, albeit with some differences. Assuming the Diego with THE WORLD received his Stand at the same time that the original Diego did, this would mean that while DIO had to train to heal his body and improve his Stand's abilities, Diego did not or did so much faster than DIO did, showing that they developed differently.
They used the most recognizable version of jojo with his strongest stats. What is wrong with that? And Time stop is even nerfed in the show. Dio and Jojo could both just punch any opponent a million times and kill them instantly but they don't.
Then kenshiro should not have been able to sense SP, stands are not fighting spirits, rather psychic projections of a users will. There's also the case of how they said his strongest feat was the building, ignoring the diamond breaking that they already mentioned in the video
Dli611 Li part 4 statistics aren’t his strongest. End of part 3 is, in Jojo characters get weaker as they age from their prime. Jotaro at the end of part 3 could stop time for 5 seconds and had al of his prime stats. Jotaro in part 5 was a little weaker and could only stop time for a second or 2
This is for sure one of the better battles, and I think it's pretty incredible to see anime protags fight. Star Platinum putting Kenshiro on the defensive like that is a huge accomplishment, and likewise Kenshiro surviving The World via Muso Tensei is totally awesome. 10/10
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 that’s a minor feat tho he fought and beat kaioh who could charge up a blast to destroy the moon not in his prime kaioh was like 40-50
@@thelefthanders7918 And the fact that Kaioh had Anryū Tenha, AKA spatial manipulation. Kenshiro became immune to that by the second round and even summoned his own Stand.
Sloppy and lackluster fight, where's Jotaro being cunning and using his skills and the environment around him, with Star Platinum digging through the soil or shooting pellets and rifle rounds? Where's Kenshiro being a tactical genius and using more of his moves like blocking projectiles with his nun-chucks or outright moving like Made In Heaven would around the area?
Jotaro is basically like Omni-Man; Powerful at first, but as he developed as a person, he started taking more L's due to how much more powerful the villains have come until he finally dies facing against a Freddy Mercury reference.
If you’re going to use clips from Stardust Crusaders, then actually give the information for Stardust Crusaders instead of his Diamond is Unbreakable information
I disliked the video because they not onoy gave my man Kenshiro an unworthy opponent and didn't even research him properly. Ken absolutely deserves a re-entry for Death Battle, with a worthy opponent.
@@Haispawner I mean, they still followed the theme of Death Battle though. Which is to say, pitting two fighters together that have matching traits, details, and overall personality in some way or another. And in this case, it was "two fighters that are extremely strong and have a flurry rush of punches as their signature move"
This battle sucks IMO, i dont watch FOTNS, but placing some guy that can instantly kill his opponents by touching them against some buff guy who can punch really fast and stop time for 2 seconds is unfair
Though I've only recently started getting into Fist of the North Star (both last and this year) I genuinely have no idea why they low balled Kenshiro so hard
I watched the series for myself I haven't finished it but I can confirmed he is not saitama or goku He gets wounded every fight most fights at the end comes close to him getting defeated this was just a matchup that should of never happen since kenshiro has so many 1 shot abillity's
How is this even a debate? Jotaro at age 40 got beaten by a handgun, while Kenshiro if he lives around the age of 80 or more would still be a wise and skilled grandmaster who could easily kill his younger self.
@@halofan1253 Point is that it's in a universe where rats are supposed to just be dumb animals, but that one turned out to not just have a stand, but also unexpectedly hyper intelligent. To someone like Tails or Bowser where the average intelligence of random creatures is higher than ours, sure, they wouldn't be caught off guard. But in a more grounded setting, literally nobody's gonna expect it until it happens. So really, him being surprised by a completely unexpected and sudden turn of events means nothing in the long run.
There's this kid named Noble Darrington who thinks Giorno is invincible because he said "no one can surpass him" and that he scales to Bohemian Rhapsody who can summon all of fiction. The audacity.
Nothing new sadly, people uberwank GER saying that he can no diff the likes of The Beyonder, CASuperman, Marquis of Death, DR Manhattan, etc..... just don't pay attention to those dudes they will literally say that GER wins and just deny all arguments.
now an argument for the side of Jotaro is the fact that we have seen his willingness to play dirty or run away until ready to fight but Kenshiro can end it in a single blow meaning even if he ran away it’s likely he would have died anyway
you guys realize that kenshiro broke a building with one hand you really think Jotaro's books can top that? even if it had saved him kenshiro can just him him everywhere else. his attacks aren't only for the body.
@@nothing7886 No timer or limit to Kenshiro going intangible at will, so after the first time and gaining understanding of it he'd just do the technique the moment the time stop's phrase began
Death battle "Star platinum can punch over 3000 tons percisely" Also death battle " star platinums best strength feat is throwing the top of a small building"
@@johncox8568 Its totally different. And does it matter when dude walks through a falling skyscraper like walking through a field of daisies.............no.
Inaccurate, Jotro didn’t use the Joestar family secret technique
“Running away”
Apparently you have never seen the Rubber Soul fight
He's also not at his strongest in this timeline, it takes DIO ascending to godhood and gaining The World Over Heaven for Jotaro to also gain that sort of power. Jotaro takes down a god because their stands are similar.
@@moonkingdomify and because of the second biggest plot armor of the game (the first being DIO while fighting giorno... like in gorge joestar)
@@moonkingdomify they are similar, so they can *naturally* do the same thing
BUT
Dio needed to reach heaven to get this power, while jotaro didn't, so it makes no sense
but we are talking about the running away skill not plot stuff
Kenshiro: Hits Jotaro's pressure points
Jotaro: *dies*
The thick comics under Jotaro's clothes: am I a joke to you?
(not sure if you are joking) Ken's pressure points negate durability cuz they worked on Jagi who tanked a nuke. Only way you are surviving that is if you have good internal durability, not be human, regenerate pretty good or just outright be omnipotent.
@@azure8935 issa joke
@Clout Gang
Ken scales to Jagi who can tank a nuke. Star Platinum or The World has never shown the capability of being able to wipe out a country. Yes Ken is durable enough to tank anything Jotaro throws at him lol.
@Clout Gang You do realize that Star Platinum's timestop is like 5 seconds in Part 6, and Kenshiro has Muso Tensei which turns his body into nothingness and hides his presence within the universe itself. Kenshiro also has a technique called Tenha Kassastu which can pretty much be qualified as ranged thus meaning Kenshiro can go out of Jotaro's range of timestop and hit Jotaro's pressure points with said technique. I do like JoJo and FOTNS, but I just think Kenshiro has more abilities on his end.
@Clout Gang Jotaro can't punch at the speed of light lol. Reacting to speeds of light like Made in Heaven doesn't mean he can punch at the speed of light.
Jotaro: I have a Stand.
Kenshiro: I am... Standing.
Here, I realized, you were just like me, trying to make history
@@maolenvinpelaez2199 but who's to judge? Who's right, who's wrong? When are guard is down, I think we both agree!
@Арсений Быков that violence breeds violence BUT IN THE END IT HAS TO BE THIS WAY!
@@TheGoldenConnorific I've covered my own path! You followed your wraith! But maybe we both the same!
@@user-vd9rf4vl2k ZA WARUDO has turned
He says “turns out diamonds aren’t forever”. Huge missed opportunity to say “diamonds aren’t unbreakable”
Diamonds are forever is a james bond movie
@@husky4805 yeah and dimond is unbreakable is a seanson jotaros a main side charachter in
Wrong season 💀
"Diamonds aren't unbreakable" would be much more suitable for if Josuke was put in a Death Battle.
@@ianlai2961 Jotaro is in Part 4 too.
Kakyoin would kill kenshiro easily because no one can actually deflect the emerald splash.
Donut.
So sad he couldn't enter in some juicy milf
Kenshiro would also get 1 shot against speedwagon
Cue to everyone who has deflected the emerald splash
@@PatrickWilliams-ip5wz He means the one which is 20meters and literally shoots from all directions. It was only deflected/ignored because the enemy had stopped time.
Terribly inaccurate, Kenshiro still had his shirt at the end of the fight
lol
it was such an easy fight he didnt need to take it off
Yay
He was holding back. That's why the shirt was still on.
That proves that he only needed one single tap..
Jotaro should have allowed his grandpa to fight Kenshiro. It would have been great to see Old Joseph tell some stuff like “Your next line is, “Omae wa mou shindeiru”” then Ken follows up with “Omae wa mou shindeiru” only for both of them to explode
Funnily enough someone did actually do the "you're already dead" thing on Ken, only for him to blow up.
@@l0sts0ul89 yeah that guy who proclaimed that he knows Hokuto Shinken.
That another story for another time
if you watch FONS you know Kenshiro has some sense of humor, he'll probably answer Joseph "bingo", and Joseph would be like "IKR! oh waii.... uwaaeeekkk" lol
@@relaxstaycalm1906 the only annoyance is joseph actually follows the words of those people the exact second they're saying it, but the anime doesnt show it and splits it as two parts. would be absolutely hilarious to see that happen tho
Not fair, Kenshiro is from a rare anime verse that actually follows real time.
If Kenshiro says his opponents will die in 30 seconds after he hits them with a pressure point technique, they actually die in 30 seconds. Jotaro's 5 second timestop would be meaningless.
The only anime where seconds and minutes are actually seconds and minutes
@@Ali-vc4cc As opposed to the anime where it takes two men 3 minutes to fall down a three-story mansion through its chimney, and not even get halfway before bursting through the wall of the second floor.
That's if they're fighting in his universe, either way star platinum moves at the speed of light (or close to when using this DB statement) more than fast enough to kill a mf within fractions of a second 🗿
@@yellow_flash813 *"star platinum moves at the speed of light (or close to when using this DB statement)"*
It doesn't move anywhere _close_ to that fast. Even in top form.
@@yellow_flash813 Star Platinum got beaten by a stand moving at 600 kph, it's not lightspeed
Just imagine Joseph in this
Joseph: your next line is 'you're already dead'
Kenshiro: you're already dead..
Nani!?!
then joseph inflates like a ballon and goes POP
They both detonate in nuclear explosions
😂😂now which one is saying nani though? One is boutta die the other is caught off guard
This was a joke in one of Jackduripper’s YTP’s. YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT!
@@imlivinginyourceiling oh someone already made this joke? Well great minds think alike. (Also dont know who ur talking about)
Kenshiro is the true OG. The first to shoot laser beams, and the inspiration for series like Street Fighter and countless others
Dragon ball came out before Fist of the North Star.
@@omariblake21 fist of the north star was created in 1983, dragon ball arrived in 1984
But Johnathan Joestar was the inspiration for Kenshiro
@@sergantanthony216 it's the other way around
@@ifdy1361 Ah my bad. Thanks.
The biggest issue with this episode? They underplayed Kenshiro BIG TIME. The man has many more insane displays of power in the manga.
Yeah, but they aren't really relevant here. The most significant techniques that Ken learned in the 2nd half of HnK was to deal with Kaioh's anti-Musuo Tensei abilities
@@shotgun6X Not really, they left out ap, durability and speed feats from the first and second parts of HnK, they didn't even give a number for Ken's speed and in ap they made him city block when he is at least country lvl, then they did a very shalow dip in his range attacks limiting him to only one attack when he has several more which would had given him an absurd edge as they are invisible area of effect attacks.
@@JR_22A true but was it needed they down played him because all he has to do is one tap him tbh my guy could’ve been the weakest person in the world his techniques are the reason he will still win especially against people who’s cocky af 🤷🏾♂️
Imagine if he chopped one of the pyramids in half.
if we take scaling of jotaro into account, canon scaling btw, he can move light speed/faster than light speed, and the punches of star platinum can be compared to getting hit by a truck with each punch, and he can stop time of course for technically an infinite amount of time given enough practice
Maybe I shouldve taught him the joestar technique...
Nah there was no time
laldawmasdsad sda talk about
*_TIME_*
In Jotaros fight against rubber soul, he used the technique and directly references it, he was well aware
I don't think running away would have helped.
Nigerandayo?
Normal person dies: Oh nooo I'm dead, why
Jotaro: Yare Yare
Yeah, although it means "Good grief" in Japanese
@@cobalt7248 we know (not trying to be rude)
*Yare yare daze
At least he found a worthy opponent
Yare Yare daze
Plot twist: the kenshiro jotaro is fighting was summoned by bohemian rhapsody (ungalo's stand), the real kenshiro would never attack jotaro unintentionally like that
Ungalo would be like 2 or 3 during SC, right?
There's two types of people: Those who agree with this outcome, and those who have never seen Fist Of the North Star.
there are those who see things purely for entertainment and those who see for research
I've seen both, it was just disappointing the fight could have been so much more fun, like with their dio vs Alucard video, instead it boils down to, "yeah he got touched GG EZ"
yes, I still believe that Jotaro would have won simply by doing an ora ora in stopped time, but I understand the result
and now that I see it, technically Jotaro CANNOT lose, his destiny is to die as a consequence of DIO, so the result is marked by the inevitable destiny
@@Star_Platinum_Za_Warudo the same logic would be applied to kenshiro that way
Kenshiro: why tf did you want to fight me on a volcano?
Jotaro: just something I picked up from my gramps
It's actually a pyramid
@@Joltscene That joke just went straight over your head...
@@buddybudbuddy like kars
@@buddybudbuddy but it's a pyramid but ya I get the joke because the final battle of Jojo part two took place on a volcano
Kenshiro: Wouldn't be the first time some brawny jackass took me to a volcano to fight me. Doubt it'll be the last.
Jotaro just had to say: so it's the same ability as Star Platinum
YES
Star platinum, za warudo, omae wa mo shindeiru!!(stops time and blow you up to pices)
*_M U S U T A A T E N S E I_*
Si
Nerd Man It’s just a joke based on how Star Platnium gained time stop from it being “The same type of stand” as The World.
It'll always bug me that this video, and all the arguing below, never showcase that Kenshiro has a stand. It appeared in fotns2 and effortlessly bodied the big bad Kaioh.
They never showcased more than 1/5 of Ken's abilities and overall power either so that is no surprise.
Who would win bettwen kenshiro and the dio from phanthom blood?
@@realamericannegro977 Still Kenshiro. Even if DIO had range, SRSE requires blood to use. Kenshiro, meanwhile, has an omnidirectional aura that can instakill, ranged lasers that can instakill, nuclear blasts he calls punches that can hit so hard nothing remains, all of that without using Musou Tensei.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 I believe it and I was thinking that. Dio can freeze anyone that comes into contact but Kenshiro is so powerful that he likely will overcome that with either speed or rising his body heat if his fist did freeze. Didn't Hokuto no ken have a Nanto Seiken guy that did something similar to Dio's freezing?
@@realamericannegro977 Ryuga, yes. Though Ryuga's was stronger since he had the Nanto Seiken slicing on top of his ice, but he still got clapped at the end.
Hokuto Shinken is too broken to lose. Masters of Hokuto Shinken have the ability to transport themselves and their opponents into a pocket dimension AND can nullify powers (Soryu Tenra). They can also instantaneously learn any technique and even read an entire fighting style just from one or two moves. (Suieishin). These are just two of the hilariously broken techniques that Ken can use and there's an entire catalogue of broken moves for him to use.
World of void?
He would literally mop the floor of the stardust crusaders,dio,the pillar men,jouske and his other friends,kira yoshikage with or without bites the dust, the members of the passione,and diavolo
Or maybe giorno with GER
@@darkronin7865 Draw
Since kenshiro survive a punch to a guy who capable to destroy a country
And ger only twin
Buster
@@azizkalb8721 oh crap and I was about to say that, Araki himself stated that he doesn't knows about it's potential or if giorno can control GER but one thing I'm aware is that the arrow will last on GER permanently
So Kenshiro won with both his shirt on and jotaro's theme playing?
Unsubbed.
To be fair. What is the point of ripping his shirt off and getting big. Like, why? It doesnt seem to affect his capabilities at all.
MrNothini it’s anime, there doesn’t have to be a reason.
@@MrNothini it's just a FotN thing, its just there because it's cool, similar to auras in DragonBall or stand rushes in jojo
What about the magazine jojo has in his shirt
It's called dragon's breathing, in the Fist of the North Star universe it unlocks the body's full potential, giving a 70% increase.
Young Joseph: Next youre gonna say "You are already dead"
Kenshiro: You are already dead-Nani?!
Young Joseph: Nani!? *explodes*
Jotaro tried to fight Kenshiro, but the fight was already dead
Lel
@Neptune, Nico, Danny, Shaymin, and Friends @Neptune, jotaro tried to stop the time, but the time was already stopped by kenshiro (the time was already dead)
Is it weird how I prefer Josephs comments over the actual fight? XD
Got that from the Bottle Tendency YTP
for jotaro it was the most cofusing and hardest fight he had.
for Kenshiro it was just early afternoon
And he didn’t even need to take off his shirt for this battle
can u actually tell me one scenario where this fight was accurate and Kenshiro would've escaped jotaro's time stop and not die instantly?
@@abdalkaderalbiss7705 Although most of the data is wrong and the Jojo bias was at full blast, the result is accurate, even if Jotaro could spam TS that would only buy him 1-5 more seconds of life nothing more.
@@abdalkaderalbiss7705 you haven't read FotNS have you?
@@abdalkaderalbiss7705 Doesn't take a genius to realize that a super soldier capable of walking through skyscrapers would be able to tank hits even if time were stopped.
Fun fact, Kenshiro's later appearances resembled Silvester Stallone. The creator was a fan of his.
The one time Jotaro didn’t have the magazines under his shirt.
This comment is underated
OMG your right
They completely forgot about that
Bruhhhhh
Jotaro stuffed the magazines after revealing to Dio that he could move in stopped time because he predicted that Dio would use projectiles - his clothes are not always full of them.
Jotaro: *loses*
JoJo fans: Yare Yare Daze
Kenshiro: *wins*
Fist of The North Star fans: *"ATA!!!"*
This argument: *Exists*
Phoenix Wright fans: *OBJECTION*
Good grief
They feel GRIEF
Yare Yare Daze
SPOILERS
Funny watching stone ocean and realizing this fight could have technically happened in Jojo canon during a small window of time while Kenshiro just EXISTED in the Jojo world.
U mean the fairy tail dude?
@@riothin8376 The guy with the Bohemian Rhapsody stand, yeah. Kenshiro vs Raoh was just HAPPENING in Japan, it’s awesome to think about
13:24
Let's be real, we all knew the fight was over at that moment
1st time watching I didn’t even realize he even hit Jotaro
Everything else was window dressing. Kenshiro is crazy op even in his own series
I'll be honest, I was expecting Jotaro to have books or magazines stuffed in his shirt to block it like the ones he randomly had to stop Dio's knives.
@@zo0bitthat would’ve been what actually happened. Would that have changed the outcome, not really but-
Wiz: When a stand user dies, so does the stand.
*Notorious B.I.G enters*
Silver chariot too
@Just do pot i know
@@indenpendentstudygroup.3m.696 well that wasn't normal chariot. That was requiem.
Not really independant study
@@josephikrakowski8753 lol
Before watching JoJo: "Yeah Kenshiro would win 100%"
After watching JoJo: "Yare Yare Daze"
If you watch Fist of the north star, you would realize that Jotaro has 0 chance of defeating kenshiro.
Kenshiro can literally vaporize jotaro with his aura alone, he doesn't need to do anything. He can even throw Saitama punches (punching the air and destroying buildings or splitting the sky in two just by the shockwave of his punch)
Also, fun fact: Kenshiro also has a stand.
I'm a JoJo and HnK fan
And I gotta say Jotaro or any other JJBA character has no chance against Kenshiro
Macho Sadness damn not even my boy Giorno
@@lapinal3067 where TF did you hear that kenshiro has a stand
@@lunararmy1624 Not a stand, but something similar. in episode 138 Both shachi and kenshiro were ambushed by kaioh. Kenshiro was unconscious, at the time, so his fighting aura came out of him in a humanoïd form and scared kaioh's energy into hiding inside his body.
Since araki was heavily influenced by fist of the north star, i wouldn't be surprise to know that he got his inspiration for his stands from fist of the north star too
Just to understand how goddamn rediculous Kentaro is, that building feat is the first thing he does in the anime. It gets more rediculous from there.
And he did it seconds after waking up.
From a coma.
That he fell into from taking a potentially fatal injury. And dehydration. And hunger
@@KalibreSteelblast geez your reply has more likes than the main comment you commented on
I only saw the 84' anime, when does that happen xD
@@tehcookievanilla1323in the movie
I think my favorite part of this fight is the genuine confusion from Kenshiro at that first punch.
The punch that should have ended it all
“he copied dio's greatest ability. The time stop”
Me: You fool it’s ZA WARUDO
No it's time stop, za warudo is the stand, tomari tokio is the ability.
I know Jotaro says za warudo but it makes zero sense tbh
@@melvinmalonga4068 it makes perfect sense, Jotaro just says Za Warudo because that was the name Dio had for his stand, which had the ability to stop time. Doesn't sound that cool to just say "Star Platinum, Stop time" vs "Star Platinum, ZA WARUDDOOOOOOO". Yes?
So yeah basically exactly what I said with more words
It's the opposite, Dio's stand had all the powers of the joestar stands. It was revealed otherwise
Dead meme.
You know who's as powerful as kenshiro?
His pants
eyebrows
Thumb
But not his jacket and shirt. Fortunately, they have regeneration.
@@JackgarPrime kenshiro uses pressure points to regrow his new clothes
@@brothersofwrath4785 They show him repairing a boot once, so i think superhuman weaving, even from scraps is yet another Hokuto Shinken technique.
Isn't Star Platinum's greatest feat of strength when he destroyed the teeth of High Priestess, which were "as hard as diamonds" or just about?
yes but heres the thing. hardness is a loaded term. especialy when talking about strenght. Hardness in corolation to diamond, his basicaly scratch resistance.
the real term they want to use his tensile strenght. Or strenght. Take for example. a steel beam. and a hypothetical beam made of diamond. and punch it until 1 breaks. The diamond one will break. much much faster and easier then steel.
Because the harder the material the more brittle it is.
for real. YOU. could break a diamond, all it takes his a hammer and a good swing.
A real strenght feat for SP is the road roller. SP and dio. both of em punching it. and they didnt break it.
No, Star Platinum smashing the ground to create a rock shield against the sun actually got calculated higher than that
What about blowing up The World?
@@sadflix8754 never did it in canon. so moot point
Plus, Ken's already fought Shin who could crush diamonds with his fingertips all the way in the early seasons, long before Raoh, Toki and Jagi were part of the equation.
I just found out, that Fallout New Vegas has an Easter egg referencing Fist Of The North Star. In the Lonesome Road DLC, you can fight a giant Deathclaw named Rawr. If you have the Wild Wasteland Perk, when you use Rawr's Talon to craft a unique Deathclaw Gauntlet, it will be named "Fist Of The North Rawr"
If I may add to this thread of Hokuto references;
Superboy from Young Justice makes a Hokuto reference in the latest episode
Seraphimon from Digimon is a literal reference *to* Kenshiro
Cody has a color swap based off Kenshiro in Street Fighter X Tekken
Was disappointed when I didn’t see “Deflected the Emerald Splash.” In Jotaros Feats
I know right
what?! no one can deflect the emerald splash!!
nO oNe cAn dEflEct tHe eMeRalD sPlASh
*EVEN ONE DELETED THE EMARLD SPLASH*
He didn't he just tanked it
Fun fact: Kenshiro's design was an inspiration for that of Jonathan Joestar, Jotaro's great-great-grandfather and the first JoJo.
That and Jotaro’s stand, Star Platinum which is basically just Kenshiro using Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken. Araki is what you would call a massive Hokuto No Ken fanboy.
Wasn't jesus the first jojo
I knew it!
Also that explains why all three of them look similiar to each other.
Btw who's your favorite joestar?
Most realistic thing is that Joseph didn't cheat in helping Jotaro. Like he did against Younger Darby
Kenshiro should be called the One Touch Man!
he can blow people with just his aura alone
Is that what Yuria calls him?
*zero existence man*
Kek
Fun fact:
The guy who made jojo was actually inspired by fist of the north star
Clearly
He wasn't inspired by it but the battle cries are though
@@ioriyagami347 and the buff look and classic feel
Cough cough Jonathan
@@thomasduong5120 joseph and jotaro too
Inaccurate, there wasn’t 2 minutes of explaining every single move both of them did.
Kenshiro is martial artist jesus💀
nah thats his brother toki
@@charlesb3751 Indeed Toki was the Godfist, with his heavenly hand technique people died on orgasms from its beauty, truly horrific way to die, shame the disease took him away, but he loved his brothers, and he knew Ken would excel to full power if he died.
It is crazy how this matchup even exists. Kenshiro just outclasses Jotaro in every way. Man killed a guy who is multi-continental and scales to a guy who dodged 1 quadrillion punches. This battle should have been a full on murder
Not as big of a stomp as Charizard vs WarGreymon, Flash vs Quicksilver, Storm vs Korra, and Saitama vs Popeye
@@azure8935 I recall several jojo vs avatar threads where they seemed 50% match
@@brothersofwrath4785
Now that's odd
Not really, time stop, way FTL punches, kenshiros reaction and combat speed isn't exactly the same as star platinums.
@@starflatinum683
He's fought people that don't leave a shadow behind, and Garuda whom actually is light speed.
What evidence is there of SP being FTL other than a featless statement? Wait don't tell me, that Hanged Man story. Hanged Man isn't light speed at all, only evidence for that comes from Polnareff, but 1 problem, something that small doesn't need to be faster than light to be invisible to the naked eye (plus he's a moron). Hanged Man literally was getting outsped by a car while Kakyoin and Polnareff were having a 4-7 minute conversation in a fully sped car. FTL is an exaggeration. Plus how does Polnareff even look at Hanged Man jumping from reflection to reflection without snapping his own normal human neck at that speed?
when jotaro said "Nani?" there should have been a to be continued.
I don't think he was continuing after going to _that_ many pieces...
Aren't stands and personas (from the persona games) the same thing
Shinichi Kawashigi dude that would be been so funny
@@Sarah12471 ehh kinda
@@Violetenist Okay they are different but they do have a fair amount of simularitys for example all of both are somehow linked to a tarot card and they both manifest as a being floating just behind them in most scenarios (note: i am not a guy who watches anime so please correct me on any facts that i get wrong)
“Ohh Noo”
“Oh my God!”
Joseph was the real winner
Kenshiro Said it himself. "Hokuto Shinken is invincible." Ken always seems to have a move for everything and can create a move for anything.
That is a no limits fallacy.
Kenshiro is the original OG of manly awesomeness in anime and manga. So much so that all other anime, manga, and video games since has branched from him and the anime he is from. I had absolute confidence that he would defeat JoJo, by whom, would be like one of the many side characters to show up in one or a few episodes of Fist of the Northstar.
Even John the peacemaker Cena openly said that he loves hokuto no ken
i think Lupin the third was the first badass in anime tbh
Originally I thought
"Only Stand users can see other Stands"
but when I found out that Kenshiro can use his spirit energy, he basically used his power to give himself the ability to look at and hit Stands.
He IS a Stand
He can see them, but he can't interact with them
@@starflatinum683 doesn’t stop him from send jotaro to world of void
But didn’t araki say specifically that ONLY stand users could see or harm other stands, though with a few exeptions such as yellow temperance
@@Bap-wv7ur thats truth, but its only in Jojo's universe. In Death Battle they have to see the tiny details to find out if certain situations are met, and Kenshiro being able to see Stands is one of them,as his ability to percive someones fighting spirit kind of relates with Stand rules.
@@LordofSadFac jojo itself debunk it
Jojo`s Bizzare Adventure : Diamond is Unbreakable
Jotaro : *Laughs in Starplatinum*
And heavy exhaustion
When do they say that
Can I like this twice
@@acrusader1319 its the 4th jojo series
Anthony plays01 I know I was watching p4 while it was coming out but what does this have to do with diu
0:36 Jotaro
5:38 Kenshiro
11:40 Fight
Let's just settle this whole dispute. Jotaro has *NOTHING* in his arsenal that can reliably harm Kenshiro, let alone kill him. Here's why:
The heart crush wouldn't work since losing vital organs is a paper cut in HnK. Ken himself had his heart slashed up by Rei during the Kiba Daioh storyline. This isn't an outlier either since Hyoh fought without his heart, a few crushed lungs and a broken spine and still mopped up an army. Toki fought while dealing with both Ryuga's lethal arts and his terminal radiation. Jyuza fought while _literally dead._
Hell, Ken could be completely unconscious and he'd still win this Death Battle considering he was fighting Kaioh while comatosed.
There's also one major detail that the analysis forgot; omnidirectional aura. They only pointed out straightforward ranged attacks but didn't take into account that all Hokuto practitioners have a lethal aura that can kill someone from hundreds of meters away if they wanted to. So really, Jotaro approaching him was the moment he died.
As for durability, Ken destroys a bunker full of nukes head-on, takes blows from Raoh who can conjure up natural disaster-levels of attacks, nullified _spatial manipulation_ and even a fellow Musou Tensei user (read: intangibility, summoning and existence erasure all in one).
We're not even going to discuss power and hax since Ken has all of that in spades, but because some people are clueless, Kenshiro has Musou Tensei, an automatic technique that's basically intangibility, existence erasure, summoning and void manipulation all in one broken ass package. After the second round against Kaioh, add spatial manipulation resistance. Even if Kenshiro didn't have every Nanto and Hokuto technique in his arsenal and only had Musou Tensei, it's still an unimaginable stomp in his favor.
THANK YOU.
Yes, Kenshiro's aura was powerful enough to reverse the flow of a massive waterfall, so that alone should be proof enough. And stopping time wouldn't help, either, because that aura would still exist while time is stopped; just like how Joseph's Ripple was still active, hence why DIO had to throw knives instead of touching him.
@@KalibreSteelblast Yup. Time stop does not nullify passive effects such as Hamon, meaning Jotaro would waste his limited usage.
I also forgot to take stamina into account. Jotaro can only last a whole night's worth of combat.
Kenshiro can fight at peak strength for _months without food or water._
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
In before
But he was pierced by arrows and Spears and other conventional weapons so star platinum can do the same
@@brothersofwrath4785 Ken can quickly recover from physical damage. He got slashed up in the heart and continued to turn Kiba Daioh and his goons into salsa. He was put in a comatose state by Kaioh and still ran his fade. He was almost lethally injured by Souther and still indented him across the pyramid. And by the time Bolge was part of the equation (AKA the final boss), the only injuries he sustained were intentional gambits to troll the opponent that, again, he recovered from. He's even tanked existence erasure extraordinaire Musou Tensei from Raoh and won. He's taken spatial manipulation in the form of Anryu Tenha and won.
If we're going to go that far into downplaying, people keep saying Jotaro's MFTL but that's the feat that killed him? He lost the Stand rush clash with Polnareff and only had to get himself stabbed to stand a chance to break Anubis? He lost the Stand rush clash with DIO multiple times and only won through trickery and deception? He couldn't handle Sheer Heart Attack's existence erasure bombs _at a distance_ without needing a medic? He had time stop and everything yet couldn't both stop MiH's attack and save his daughter?
Meanwhile, Kenshiro has evaded attacks from Falco who was shooting actual light and Han who was so fast _light itself couldn't move fast enough to cast a shadow on him._ Even in the early series, Shin could break diamonds into powder with his fingertips and still got his chest caved in. Couple that with the automatic intangibility/existence erasure combo, even if Ken was paralyzed, had the attack potency of a wet fart and broke easier than a Twitter user, nothing Jotaro does would ever matter.
I know you meant it as a joke but people actually tried that.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 in chapter 122 Raoh turned his skin denser than steel. Spears and axes broke against his skin
Then there are those who use the scene where Kenshiro pulled Fudo out of a quicksand with one arm as a proof that his other arm was hurt by arrows and thus ineffective
The last part wouldnt of worked due to the shonen jump he keeps under his shirt. And even if it did the naruto filler is litterally impenetrable.
I was going to contend your point, but... I will concede that Naruto as a whole is far too dense to penetrate. Best if Kenshiro just aims for the head.
The power goes through every thing
Nice job ripping off another guys comment.
nico641 lol right I saw the same comment as a reply to New Endoria
nico641 lol nice repeated response
"star platinum, the world!"
*time doesnt stop*
Wait Thats ilegal
That time stop was outside of Jotaro’s perspective though
E
Kenshiro could just fly out to a different dimension tho.
That's my line
And kenshiro didn't even have to rip his shirt off.... Speaks of how strong he is
The 100 crack fist of the North Star and star platinums muda attack collide was a crazy thing to see and always brings a smile to my face
MUDA ATTACK HAVE U EVEN WATCHED JOJOS?????
So it’s the same ability as Star Platinum
*Star Platinum learns Musou Tensei*
It is my head canon that star platinum can copy abilities although it probably isn’t canon
Hi jotaro-kun
@@danispepic633 Hello jelly donut
kenshiro: NANI?
you can tell this isn't originally from jojo because Joseph isn't narrating everything that's happening in front of him
Pretty sure Jotaro won't use the heart thingy on anyone. Except when reviving only.
he would if he really hated his opponent, otherwise he usually lets them live after giving them a beatdown
@@weelolol it's not in his character, he's not like DIO.
@@theknightwhosealsthedarkne9756 normally no. But this is Death battle, so he has to kill his opponent, and to kill someone like Kenshiro, you either have to crush his brain or heart out, as he just won't die from Star Platinum punch anyway.
@@markconstance186 that's the thing Jotaro could've used the heart stopping skill when DIO was stopped in his time. See Jotaro even donuted DIO that's Ultimate kill for a human that Jotaro could've used on kenshiro.
@@theknightwhosealsthedarkne9756
Dio is a vampire tho. A vampire don’t die from getting it brain or heart crushed that easily. Otherwise, even someone like Polnareff with Silver Chariot would have take Dio down already simply by stabbing his heart.
If I remember correctly, Kenshiro survived being donut before by Raoh already, so I don’t think that would really be enough.
“He can stop time, he’s invincible!”
*laughs in Heaven*
_Made In Heaven would like to speed up the time stop_
*laughs in over heaven*
@@Rakushun88 stand hax does not work on superior opponents
@@brothersofwrath4785 what the hell are you talking about stand hax will most definitely work you clown.
"Made in heaven"
Haha good joke
Kenshiro: I hit your pressure points. You’re already dead.
Jotaro: So it’s the same type of Stand as Star Platinum.
Kenshiro: NANI?!
Not funny very cringe
big Black Is back yeah pretty much
big Black Is back
not everything is for your amusement dumbass
EmperorKelpo and not everything is about jojo
big Black Is back
what does that have to do with anything i said
*Why you can't scale both Part 3 and 7 ZA WARUDO*
Although the two share basically the same name and the Stands themselves appear to be very similar in shape, Diego's THE WORLD is a different Stand from the original one used by DIO.
Naming convention
The first thing we need to cover is the names. In the original release for Part 3 of JoJo in Shonen Jump, DIO's The World was spelled with the kanji for 'world' (世界) but was supposed to be pronounced as ザ ∙ ワルド, which can be said as 'Za Warudo', or 'The World', while in Part 7, Diego's THE WORLD was spelled entirely in English letters.
Biology
This could most likely be chalked up to the change in art style that JoJo has had in the 20 years between the release of Part 3 and 7, but while DIO's version is considerably muscular, Diego's version is much more slim and closer to an 'athletic' body than DIO's version.
Attack style
DIO's version was known to utilize a rapid punch attack while he shouted 'MUDA MUDA MUDA' at his opponent (muda is the word for 'useless' in Japanese) and possessed super strength, however Diego's version does not possess this quality, and is used exclusively to stop time and using throwing knives rather than use only melee attacks. This is shown more clearly in the 'Eyes of Heaven' video game, where both DIO and AU Diego appear, where DIO's version uses punches and kicks primarily and Diego's version uses slower, normal paced attacks.
Evolution
When DIO first received The World, he had to train with it for around four years to bring his time stop up from two seconds to five, later gaining more seconds when he drank the blood of Joseph Joestar and healed his body.
The original Diego Brando received Scary Monsters early on in Part 7, however the alternate universes that are talked about in this part are supposed to be extremely similar to the one the story takes place in, albeit with some differences. Assuming the Diego with THE WORLD received his Stand at the same time that the original Diego did, this would mean that while DIO had to train to heal his body and improve his Stand's abilities, Diego did not or did so much faster than DIO did, showing that they developed differently.
I purpose that we call Diego's version "High Voltage" or "The: world: High Voltage" in reference to the arcs name
Claim your “Here after Jonathan VS Tanjiro” ticket here!
No plot armor
No lucky gene
Nerfed time stop
No secret Joestar technique
Stardust Jojo but part 4 statistics
G A R B A G E
They used the most recognizable version of jojo with his strongest stats. What is wrong with that? And Time stop is even nerfed in the show. Dio and Jojo could both just punch any opponent a million times and kill them instantly but they don't.
Then kenshiro should not have been able to sense SP, stands are not fighting spirits, rather psychic projections of a users will.
There's also the case of how they said his strongest feat was the building, ignoring the diamond breaking that they already mentioned in the video
I can't tell if you're joking. I really hope so.
*THE WORLD*
*ROADROLER*
Dli611 Li part 4 statistics aren’t his strongest. End of part 3 is, in Jojo characters get weaker as they age from their prime. Jotaro at the end of part 3 could stop time for 5 seconds and had al of his prime stats. Jotaro in part 5 was a little weaker and could only stop time for a second or 2
When a stand user dies so does their stand
Laughs in Notorious B.I.G
And cheap trick
Laughs in Limp Bizkit
flaccid pancake
@@chia4965 flaccid pancake and filthy acts at a reasonable price are the best xD
Polnareff: Cries in Chariot Requiem
This is for sure one of the better battles, and I think it's pretty incredible to see anime protags fight. Star Platinum putting Kenshiro on the defensive like that is a huge accomplishment, and likewise Kenshiro surviving The World via Muso Tensei is totally awesome. 10/10
And people say JoJo beats Goku😂😂😂😂
I've seen people say that he could take Superboy Prime, Golden/Silver age superman, Shazam, Flash, etc, etc.... its crazy.
Jojo couldn't even beat Yajirobe.
@@KalibreSteelblast bro, yajirobe couldnt even beat the farmer with a shotgun, that guy solos every verse
Giorno, Johnny and Josuke (part 8) does
"Turns out Diamonds aren't forever"
Why didn't you say unbreakable!?
cuz the diamonds weren't shiny, everyone knows only shining diamonds are unbreakable
He missed the chance for a reference.
DeBeer's, learn to reference
they had the James bond movie on the mind is my guess.
"When its user dies his stand also dies"
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And harvest
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@@MrMan-cl6kg Harvest died tho.
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Jojo fans “uhm achtually, jotaro once farted so hard his stand killed everyone in the room so he wins” 🤓
This should not have made me laugh
Well Star Platinum did inhale a stand the size of a town so he should be around town level.
@@something1600 And Kenshiro no-sell'd a guy who tanked the nuclear blast that ended the age of man.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 that’s a minor feat tho he fought and beat kaioh who could charge up a blast to destroy the moon not in his prime kaioh was like 40-50
@@thelefthanders7918 And the fact that Kaioh had Anryū Tenha, AKA spatial manipulation. Kenshiro became immune to that by the second round and even summoned his own Stand.
Sloppy and lackluster fight, where's Jotaro being cunning and using his skills and the environment around him, with Star Platinum digging through the soil or shooting pellets and rifle rounds?
Where's Kenshiro being a tactical genius and using more of his moves like blocking projectiles with his nun-chucks or outright moving like Made In Heaven would around the area?
*Kensiro heals a mute girl*
Me: he's a punching jesus
Fun fact: Another Fist of the North Star character, Toki, is basically Kung Fu Jesus.
THE AISHĪRU I thought the same 🤣🤣
@JaydaynMaree Awesome.
That would be Toki.
And Johnny from jojo's is talked to by Jesus
"Turns Out Diamonds aren't Forever"
A Missed Oppurtunity to said "Diamond isn't Unbreakable"
But that's josuke not jotaro
@@ApexZer0 but its a jojo's reference hahaha
@@ApexZer0 it's still jojo related also jotaro is in part 4 too
But it’s a Kanye joke
When's ur zenkai piccolo?
Jotaro is basically like Omni-Man;
Powerful at first, but as he developed as a person, he started taking more L's due to how much more powerful the villains have come until he finally dies facing against a Freddy Mercury reference.
Fr
F YOU
SPOILERS
Kenshiro would win hands down.
No lol
Precisely
@@thecraggle7277 Kenshiro was the original JOJO's creator admitted he took inspiration from Kenshiro. The original is always the best.
So basically Jotaro fights his Great-Great Grandpa.
He fights his Great-Great-Great Grandfather's body but with a different head and mind on it.
@LD Jonathan was modeled and loosely based on Kenshiro.
@LD it's a joke, don't understand then gtfo
@LD bro I said it before it was a joke, do you even know what a joke means?
@@fireelighting8610 don't bother explaining to dumbfucks like him
don't worry, Joseph avenged Jotaro's death by shoving a grenade in Kenshiro's pants while he wasn't looking
joseph got killed by ken
ruclips.net/video/lpg6vt4xXSY/видео.html
@@brothersofwrath4785
I love this joke 🤣
@@azure8935 sanga and joseph are voiced by Unsho Ishizuka( RIP)
When you say "a grenade" you actually mean 18 grenades, right?
This just makes me think of the Priest from Spawn.
Incredibly accurate theirs no way jotaro would’ve won because his theme wasn’t playing
If anyhting the Downplayed Kenshire more
Bingo, you got the idea
If you’re going to use clips from Stardust Crusaders, then actually give the information for Stardust Crusaders instead of his Diamond is Unbreakable information
And if they are using clips of from the OVA they might as well use stuff from Eyes Of Heaven
They even gave us his part 6 age information as 39
Clearly this guy has something against JoJo
Too much inaccurate information
Yaa Yeit you realize if this was eyes of heaven Jotaro, kenshiro would have lost in seconds?
Star Platinum: *ORAORAORAORAORAORAORA*
Kenshiro: *ATATATATATATATATATA*
12:53
Ata is the og ora/muda
jotaro: .........
kenshiro: .........
luffy: .........
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The amount of down play for Kenshiro here is unbelievable
I disliked the video because they not onoy gave my man Kenshiro an unworthy opponent and didn't even research him properly.
Ken absolutely deserves a re-entry for Death Battle, with a worthy opponent.
@@Haispawner I mean, they still followed the theme of Death Battle though. Which is to say, pitting two fighters together that have matching traits, details, and overall personality in some way or another. And in this case, it was "two fighters that are extremely strong and have a flurry rush of punches as their signature move"
This battle sucks IMO, i dont watch FOTNS, but placing some guy that can instantly kill his opponents by touching them against some buff guy who can punch really fast and stop time for 2 seconds is unfair
They need to do another Kenshiro matchup with modern research, this time actually addressing him as continent lvl.
Though I've only recently started getting into Fist of the North Star (both last and this year) I genuinely have no idea why they low balled Kenshiro so hard
@@sketchydude8431 even then he still won
Not really fair when jojos basically fighting the OG one punch man
@Manek Iridius he's like Baki but more extreme.
I watched the series for myself I haven't finished it but I can confirmed he is not saitama or goku
He gets wounded every fight most fights at the end comes close to him getting defeated this was just a matchup that should of never happen since kenshiro has so many 1 shot abillity's
@Sith Jawa Saitama is faster so he lands the killing blow first.
roses are reds
violets are blue
10:18
You sir, have just won the internet
Great joke
At least it would be if literally everyone didn't make it
*NANI?!*
Violets are blue
Roses are red
I touched you once
You’re already dead
This is eleven months old and I only watch these in hopes a hero like you comes along
Me thinking boomstick didn't have joke.
Me realizing that he said stand
Before There Was Jojo There Was Kenshiro
When you realize the Japanese voice actor for the new Kenshiro is the same as DIO lol
Takehito koyasu as deadpool
You thought it was Kenshiro, but it was me, DIO!!
Dio brando wants to know your location
@@pjdianalan7934 "You thought it was Dio, but it was me, KENSHIRO!"
Yeah, but only in the OVA. Still counts though.
"If the user dies, so does the stand"
Everyone: *laughs in Notorious BIG*
Me, an intellectual: *Laughs in Stray Cat*
Me:laughs in highway to hell
knowing that you'll die too
I gave up on trying to make it bold as i forgot how
"laughs in Limp Bizkit"
Laughs in cheap trick
The cat became Stray Cat
How is this even a debate?
Jotaro at age 40 got beaten by a handgun, while Kenshiro if he lives around the age of 80 or more would still be a wise and skilled grandmaster who could easily kill his younger self.
And Jotaro got outsmarted by a rat too.
@@halofan1253 I mean, lets be fair, anyone would've been outsmarted by it, as nobody expects them to be hyperintelligent.
@@norrecvizharan1177 Tails, Bowser and Iron Man’s IQ’s are way higher then the rat from part 4.
@@halofan1253 Point is that it's in a universe where rats are supposed to just be dumb animals, but that one turned out to not just have a stand, but also unexpectedly hyper intelligent.
To someone like Tails or Bowser where the average intelligence of random creatures is higher than ours, sure, they wouldn't be caught off guard. But in a more grounded setting, literally nobody's gonna expect it until it happens. So really, him being surprised by a completely unexpected and sudden turn of events means nothing in the long run.
There's this kid named Noble Darrington who thinks Giorno is invincible because he said "no one can surpass him" and that he scales to Bohemian Rhapsody who can summon all of fiction. The audacity.
Nothing new sadly, people uberwank GER saying that he can no diff the likes of The Beyonder, CASuperman, Marquis of Death, DR Manhattan, etc..... just don't pay attention to those dudes they will literally say that GER wins and just deny all arguments.
GER is literally confirmed to be the ultimate (cannon) stand, also that is literally Bohemian Rhapsody's power though.
@@something1600 but against characters from other verses, GER and Bohemian Rhapsody lose because of the lack of feats.
Kenshiro VS Yoshikage Kira. First one who gets touched loses.
Just a friendly game of death tag
So underrated
?????? Lol
Another one bites the dust but it will be kira he’s gonna die from a sheer heart attack
Kenshiro is unharmed by explosions... Kira wouldn't last a minute...
Jotaro didn't use the Joestar family secret technique, so of course he lost.
Hamon?
Lol want thinking ik what it is😂
@@diobrando666 Running away
SMOKEY
Smiler Entertainment that is what Joseph did. Joseph won because of that
Kenshiro would just run fast AF and beat his ass (ik its a joke just being realistic lol)
Kenshiro is the OG One Punch Man
now an argument for the side of Jotaro is the fact that we have seen his willingness to play dirty or run away until ready to fight but Kenshiro can end it in a single blow meaning even if he ran away it’s likely he would have died anyway
Jotaro learned to _always_ keep stacks of Shonen Jump under his clothes.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache Ohhhh, I get it now
Omg bro u just broke the whole video! More up votes
Just Some Guy with a Mustache EXACTLY!!!!
"Thank you Bleach, I hope you never get plagiarized"
you guys realize that kenshiro broke a building with one hand you really think Jotaro's books can top that? even if it had saved him kenshiro can just him him everywhere else. his attacks aren't only for the body.
“When a stand user does, so does their stand”
Notorious B I G: 👁👄👁
@DIEGO MEZA PACHECO his name is carne
@DIEGO MEZA PACHECO his name literally means meat In Italian which is funny because notorious big is basically a meat monster
@@playerslayer1787 carne literaly is spanish XD
@@bigbywolf5197 It’s also Italian
@@bigbywolf5197 Languages can have similarities and sometimes even identical words
I am surprised jotaro lasted this long against kenny
NO ONE CAN BEAT KEN, i dont care what anyone says
How this fight should have ended:
Jotoro: "Star Platinum, THE WORLD!"
Kenshiro: 🍩
tanks everything for 5 secs. then pokes jotaro making him explode
@@dycedark he wouldn't be able to touch him
The truth is, Star Platinum can't seriously harm Kenshiro lol
@@pogmaster6009 yeh he can
@@nothing7886 No timer or limit to Kenshiro going intangible at will, so after the first time and gaining understanding of it he'd just do the technique the moment the time stop's phrase began
Death battle
"Star platinum can punch over 3000 tons percisely"
Also death battle " star platinums best strength feat is throwing the top of a small building"
Star platinum also punched a stands teeth out that was hard as diomands without any problem.
To be fair slight difference between strength(ie lifting/throwing) and striking power
The world ora ora ora
@@johncox8568 Its totally different. And does it matter when dude walks through a falling skyscraper like walking through a field of daisies.............no.
@@conradbrown230 oh sorry I live in Vermont where we spell things right but I understand the confusion