This set up should have come in the monster trucks to begin with those damn things are so slow they can barely hit a jump taller than themselves. Traxxas is always happy to sell you a solution to a problem they create 😅
That will never happen. Traxxas always uses cheap (but usually "usable" ) electronics, banking on you getting frustrated into upgrading with even more expensive upgrade parts, doubling the price pretty quick. They will NEVER make a perfect RC. They will always have weak points. This is coming from someone who's fleet is over 50% Traxxas. I just rip out most all of the stock electronics from the start. I might run the stock steering servo for a bit, but the rest MUST GO!
I just finished the install on my F 150 MT. Pulls wheelies now. So much faster. It finally acts like a monster truck. I knew I should have ordered 2 of them. You can't beat plug and play. Cheaper options are out there but... 15 minutes and 2 buttons, I'm pulling wheelies on vinyl flooring. Pricey, yes. Is it worth it? I should have got 2. Great video.
I installed the traxxas brushless power system in my Trx4m F150 High Trail today. Mine has the Treal brass knuckles,c hubs and rear counterweights. I think it is an awesome upgrade. I did use the crawler gears since I only have the single speed transmission but easy to do and worth every penny for myself.
Hopefully you get your hands on the new Hobbywing mini24 combo! There are much more features and tunings on the Hobbywing. Traxxas combo is too expensive and no ability to tune
THE 1/10 TRAXXAS HIGH TRAIL SPORT IS RUNNIG LIKE A.. DREAM ....HAVE BEEN DRIVEING VERY HARD IN WATER. ROLLING DOWN HILLS , KEEPING IT STOCK ........THANKS FOR ALL YOU GREAT WORK
I agree with you about the simplicity on keeping it all Traxxas as compared to the other aftermarket companies for the TRX4M. Thanks for a good video. 👍
I have a heavily built Bronco I call Overkill. I put this brushless setup in it and I love it. My only concern is the motor gets extremely hot to the point you can't touch it. I know it's because of the weight of my Bronco. I wonder what the longevity of this motor will be like
I just installed this yesterday and the low speed is great on flat ground, but I have an extreme amount of cogging when the obstacles get steep (with the high-speed gears). Other than that, the speed and the fact that it is waterproof and plug-n-play is awesome.
Did you have to make any other updates (like metal driveshafts or axle gears)? I’m looking to do the same thing to a TRX4MT and wondering what else I would need beyond just the motor and ESC. Have the 2 speed transmission but everything else is stock.
I like them because they are drop in replacement no janky install with other brands. idc about having a different radio and battery the stock stuff is fine. Just think $120 is way to much considering a sidewinder 3 system is the same price
@@neongecko3065 You hit the nail on the head. The stock crap is "fine" not good, especially for the price. ALWAYS under powered though. Plus when you upgrade to something like this, you will NEVER upgrade to the good stuff, because they go outta their way to make sure it is not compatible with anything after market. For example: the rock light kits. They make them run off of 3.3 volts, so they will fry if you plug them into anything but Traxxas electronics(why else would they do it). Most people don't realize you can just use a micro buck converter, to dial in any voltage you want. Traxxas is banking on it
Wow! It’s impressive but that’s a bit high priced. The convenience does count for something but I’m not sure it’s worth that much. I’d have to test it myself first to see if there are really any true advantages. Awesome review as always.
1. I know it says in the manual it gets hot but for me it gets too hot to touch for 3 seconds when crawling at low speed. Is it the same for you also ? 2. Under load, when slowly accelerating I can feel ( at about 1/3 throttle ) a slight jerk like as the speed controller switches operating modes. It does not happen when suspended. Is it the same for you ?
im new to rc never touched the inside of one.i can remove screws lol do you think i would have any issues doing this mod??getting traxxas high trail or redcat ascent leaning towards the ascent but like the looks of traxxas better thanks for the video
Well, you don't have to replace your transmitter with this one so the price isn't that far off. You also get to keep the lighting functionality, you get an extra channel for when they inevitably drop a servo mount for the 2speed, and you don't have to find a place to mount a separate receiver... 🤷♂️
Injora now have multiple Brushless setups for the TRX4M, and Hobbywing have just released a Fusion Mini 16 and a brushless ESC and Motor for the TRX4M... All cheaper and will be 100% better than this Traxxas version. The only thing this Traxxas version will have is compatibility with their Pro light kit (by design to make you buy this Traxxas version)
Awesome video. I'm eager to see how it does under load compared to the Injora set, or even the Furitek Torpedo, as it's more in that price range. Did you by any chance do a submarine test? I admit I like crawling from rocks to mud. :)
Mine seams to cog a lot while crawling with the standard gears. I was hoping to have more wheel speed and good crawling but the Furitek and Injora both seem smoother.
I know im only 3 minutes and 51 seconds in the video, but is the motor waterproof? And can you put the munus two speed on it now that the Radio/receiver is different and has more Outlets
In the manual for this, they write that on channel 3 you can connect the shifting servo..Traxxas one! Unreleased yet. But you have to have the 3 channel TQIi controller, so another money to throw at it..
Really need to make sure you know the motor is what makes the noise, the firmware on the esc is what causes the loud whine but it is the motor that creates the noise even the beeps when you turn it on
Hey Adam I just installed this into my high trail with 2speed tranny also.Not sure if you noticed but my motor gets super hot just slow crawling around in 1st gear the slower gear.
Yikes that doesn’t sound right. It should be warm but not super hot. I would check for binding somewhere in your drivetrain. Transmission, wheel nuts, etc
I mean being able to use the stock batteries and transmitter seems to be the big selling point here. It’s very much a stock looking install as compared to the aftermarket deals.
@@johngookinsable possibly but there's a lot of value to me to be able to run whatever batteries I choose and to have at the very least end point adjustment on the steering. Not to mention the added channels to control. I don't think it's a bad set up it's just the iPhone of the RC world. It's really hard to break out of the Traxxas ecosystem...🤷
Idk I'm more of a 10th scale guy so these whole vehicle electronics setups kinda make me itch😂 I like flexibility to change things and Traxxas makes it so I pretty much have to change everything or nothing
As cool as this is, I already have a system I'm putting into my TRX4M Bronco.....however, I 'may' get this for my K10...maybe. lol 😅 It does look pretty good though, will admit.
Just make sure to swap some of the components in the MT over to metal shattered all the plastic ones in mine but a hell of a lot of fun Should clarify what I broke, shattered the ball on the driveshaft and burned out both diffs just melted the plastic inside and I’m running injora metal speed gearing inside of the metal house transmission Case
I picked one of these up right after watching this video. Thanks 😂 I’ll be interested to see how it moves my 2lb bronco (full metal/brass). My son will be happy to get my injora pro motor though. Thanks for the great videos!
I’m hoping you do another video on this with your impressions after giving it some use. Overall I like the power system, however like many others I’m noticing it gets really hot when slow crawling on rocks, also a lot of cogging going on while crawling. I’d be interested to see if you’re experiencing any of these things! Also, maybe a comparison of this brushless system with some of the other available ones. Might want to try an other one in the future and value your advice.
Cool vid! I must say in the interest of timing, Traxxas is late.. Only thing traxxas on my 4m's is the battery and the body... Traxxas aftermarket is terrible on business principles alone, you can't sue people for meeting a need and then trying to monopolize the need with overpriced, sub-par parts..... You can get better, cheaper... somewhere else. Last traxxas product I will ever buy.
the cost is a little high for keeping the stock radio which isn't that good, no changes to the bec, and no 3s. the options for this don't match the market.
ONLY THING ABOUT THE TRAXXAS CONTROLER YOU CAN NOT AJUST ANYTHING SERVO SPEED ....GOT THE CHEAP INJORA WORKS WELL FOR THE 1/18 BUILDS .....THE BRUSHLESS INJORA WOULD NOT WORK WHEN I PUT THE TOGGLES TO 7.4 V I PUT IT BACK TO 6 V AND RUN THE 7.4 V IT WORKS WELL..
That's because you don't understand what FOC is or what it does. FOC uses intelligent software that analyses back EMF to adjust the 3-phase signal for low speed control, hence no need for sensors.
@@combustionpropulsion4883 well, basically all the 1/10 scale systems are. The fusions might not be, but I always assumed they were and the 2 in 1 designed allowed that to be done on the cheap. Also, the axe systems are sensored which uses FOC. I mean, doing it with back EMF is possible I guess, but no where near as precise as with a sensor. Back EMF has no direct involvement with FOC itself. FOC is merely charging the coils as to create more precise movements, rather than just rotating the 3 phases at full power
@@dylanwhite6539 FOC is pretty much always used in sensored systems, because otherwise there would be no point in being sensored. But it is also commonly used in micro sensorless systems because A, there isn't enough room for sensors and B, you already have to use a powerful processor to get proper FOC, which means it's easier to run a more advanced rotor positioning software and get low speed control without sensors.
The pricing is too high. I got the Furitek kit with the transmitter and the venom motor for cheaper...but the downside is that I cannot use the light kit. So with this I am kinda meh. Overpriced as expected, but not too much...
I don't understand all the whining over the price of this kit, i've searched a lot of info on a brushless setup for my TRX4M and while i was looking for some different brands i saw the Traxxas ad and i bought it inmediately,together with the 2 speed transmission and a bunch of bearings to get rid of those stupid bushing, i liked the direct replacement nature of it and that you can keep the shi**y stock radio controller, i know it's not cheap but then i thought, "it's MY money and i deserve it" so i bought them
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Timestamps
Overview & key features: 0:45
In the truck: 3:04
First runs: 4:01
Speed comparisons: 5:47
Crawling capabilities: 6:37
Final thoughts: 9:13
What rims and tires are those they look sick
This set up should have come in the monster trucks to begin with those damn things are so slow they can barely hit a jump taller than themselves. Traxxas is always happy to sell you a solution to a problem they create 😅
That will never happen. Traxxas always uses cheap (but usually "usable" ) electronics, banking on you getting frustrated into upgrading with even more expensive upgrade parts, doubling the price pretty quick. They will NEVER make a perfect RC. They will always have weak points. This is coming from someone who's fleet is over 50% Traxxas. I just rip out most all of the stock electronics from the start. I might run the stock steering servo for a bit, but the rest MUST GO!
I just got the setup, so far I very impressed by the top speed and the crawl mode, very easy to use 👌
I just finished the install on my F 150 MT. Pulls wheelies now. So much faster. It finally acts like a monster truck. I knew I should have ordered 2 of them. You can't beat plug and play. Cheaper options are out there but... 15 minutes and 2 buttons, I'm pulling wheelies on vinyl flooring. Pricey, yes. Is it worth it? I should have got 2. Great video.
Proper review. Unlike mark sana Maria just trying to advertise for Traxxas
I installed the traxxas brushless power system in my Trx4m F150 High Trail today. Mine has the Treal brass knuckles,c hubs and rear counterweights. I think it is an awesome upgrade. I did use the crawler gears since I only have the single speed transmission but easy to do and worth every penny for myself.
Hopefully you get your hands on the new Hobbywing mini24 combo! There are much more features and tunings on the Hobbywing. Traxxas combo is too expensive and no ability to tune
THE 1/10 TRAXXAS HIGH TRAIL SPORT IS RUNNIG LIKE A.. DREAM ....HAVE BEEN DRIVEING VERY HARD IN WATER. ROLLING DOWN HILLS , KEEPING IT STOCK ........THANKS FOR ALL YOU GREAT WORK
I agree with you about the simplicity on keeping it all Traxxas as compared to the other aftermarket companies for the TRX4M. Thanks for a good video. 👍
I have a heavily built Bronco I call Overkill. I put this brushless setup in it and I love it. My only concern is the motor gets extremely hot to the point you can't touch it. I know it's because of the weight of my Bronco. I wonder what the longevity of this motor will be like
I just installed this yesterday and the low speed is great on flat ground, but I have an extreme amount of cogging when the obstacles get steep (with the high-speed gears). Other than that, the speed and the fact that it is waterproof and plug-n-play is awesome.
I have stock gearing and have the same problem.
I just put this setup in my TRX4MT with high speed gears. Things rippin wheelies and doing back flips now.
Did you have to make any other updates (like metal driveshafts or axle gears)? I’m looking to do the same thing to a TRX4MT and wondering what else I would need beyond just the motor and ESC. Have the 2 speed transmission but everything else is stock.
@@lounger75 I did high speed transmission gears, metal axle gears, and it’ll need metal driveshafts as well but I haven’t done that yet.
@@thisisbenji90 Thanks, really helpful!
Injora may be less expensive and so is furitek by a few bucks but I’ll take one of these because they are waterproof.
I like them because they are drop in replacement no janky install with other brands. idc about having a different radio and battery the stock stuff is fine. Just think $120 is way to much considering a sidewinder 3 system is the same price
@@neongecko3065 You hit the nail on the head. The stock crap is "fine" not good, especially for the price. ALWAYS under powered though. Plus when you upgrade to something like this, you will NEVER upgrade to the good stuff, because they go outta their way to make sure it is not compatible with anything after market. For example: the rock light kits. They make them run off of 3.3 volts, so they will fry if you plug them into anything but Traxxas electronics(why else would they do it). Most people don't realize you can just use a micro buck converter, to dial in any voltage you want. Traxxas is banking on it
Great Video, The system looks pretty dang good. I hope they make a new TRX4M kit with the brushless setup and the 2-speed stock.
Great little setup. Awesome video Adam 👌
Nice product traxxas. I want this for my monster truck. Instructions say that 3rd channel can be used to shift 2 speed transmission! Yes please!!!
Ordered one at the hobby shop today
I'm looking for a good trail truck for a housemate
1) Would you recommend the trx4m high trail?
2) If so, what upgrades from TRAXXAS do you recommend?
Misti recently got the red hardbody she will have definitely upgrade.
They knocked it out of the park compared to Axials attempt with the SCX24.
Definitely gonna do that to get rid of that brushed low throttle wine
I need that set up for my TRX 4M bronco
You really do
I got a 2 speed transmission from traxxas with furitek micro comodo works great a lot of torque on low speed and a much more speed on 2nd gear
Will the brushless moter work with the metal injora transmission gears an case?
Wow! It’s impressive but that’s a bit high priced. The convenience does count for something but I’m not sure it’s worth that much. I’d have to test it myself first to see if there are really any true advantages. Awesome review as always.
Excellent Review, nice and smooth driving. 👌
1. I know it says in the manual it gets hot but for me it gets too hot to touch for 3 seconds when crawling at low speed. Is it the same for you also ?
2. Under load, when slowly accelerating I can feel ( at about 1/3 throttle ) a slight jerk like as the speed controller switches operating modes. It does not happen when suspended. Is it the same for you ?
im new to rc never touched the inside of one.i can remove screws lol do you think i would have any issues doing this mod??getting traxxas high trail or redcat ascent leaning towards the ascent but like the looks of traxxas better thanks for the video
It’s good but I am pleased I got the Furitek Unity pro. I have no cogging, an app to tune it and 3s Capability. Is the Traxxas outrunner waterproof?
manual says the system is water proof so id assume yes.
Is there another pinion with the motor? Wondering if it will work with the low range Traxxas transmission.
How would you compare it to the Injora brushless system?
Looks great, what do you think about the power, will the Cedar have more power? The Cedar will have 120W 😊
Ehh I’ll take the injora viper instead cheaper and probably better
I bet even Furitek is cheaper than TRX
Well, you don't have to replace your transmitter with this one so the price isn't that far off. You also get to keep the lighting functionality, you get an extra channel for when they inevitably drop a servo mount for the 2speed, and you don't have to find a place to mount a separate receiver... 🤷♂️
Yes we all know how dependable the traxxas electrics are.
@@earthcoloredeyes5043 I've never had an issue with electronics? I've had Traxxas since 1998.
@@northdakotakid lucky you to have never experienced the lights of death.
Injora now have multiple Brushless setups for the TRX4M, and Hobbywing have just released a Fusion Mini 16 and a brushless ESC and Motor for the TRX4M... All cheaper and will be 100% better than this Traxxas version. The only thing this Traxxas version will have is compatibility with their Pro light kit (by design to make you buy this Traxxas version)
Beautiful slow crawl 🤘✌️
Awesome video. I'm eager to see how it does under load compared to the Injora set, or even the Furitek Torpedo, as it's more in that price range. Did you by any chance do a submarine test? I admit I like crawling from rocks to mud. :)
I was wondering if it normal for the motor to get too hot to touch if you drive 1 foot forward on low gear going very slow like 10% throttle or less?
You chose a tee-shirt with "nothing works" written on to present the last Traxxas product.😄
Will this fit on the injora carbon lcg chassis for the trx4m?
Mine seams to cog a lot while crawling with the standard gears. I was hoping to have more wheel speed and good crawling but the Furitek and Injora both seem smoother.
It needs to be in Trail or Crawl mode. Yours is most likely in Sport mode.
Picked up one this evening and put it in my mt with speed gears and it’s absurd lol just a wheely machine
I know im only 3
minutes and 51 seconds in the video, but is the motor waterproof? And can you put the munus two speed on it now that the Radio/receiver is different and has more Outlets
In the manual for this, they write that on channel 3 you can connect the shifting servo..Traxxas one! Unreleased yet. But you have to have the 3 channel TQIi controller, so another money to throw at it..
Really need to make sure you know the motor is what makes the noise, the firmware on the esc is what causes the loud whine but it is the motor that creates the noise even the beeps when you turn it on
Hey Adam I just installed this into my high trail with 2speed tranny also.Not sure if you noticed but my motor gets super hot just slow crawling around in 1st gear the slower gear.
Yikes that doesn’t sound right. It should be warm but not super hot. I would check for binding somewhere in your drivetrain. Transmission, wheel nuts, etc
Thanks Adam.I did go over all you said to make sure and all was fine.My local hobby shop is sending it to traxxas to see what’s going on.
It seems to happen in the low gearin that traxxas two speed tranny when crawling slow over rocks.Not so much when it’s constantly moving more quickly.
just got injora fat viper brushless times 2 .....THANKS FOR ALL YOUR GREAT VIDEOS .......QUESTION ????ARE YOU ON TEAM JESUS OR TEAM ON WORLD
Is the ESC programmable?
It has the same 3 modes as the stock esc but cannot be programmed beyond that
@@CapeCrawlers well i done messed up and got one. any way to turn off that lame beeping when you release the trigger?
Too much money vs competitors and if I'm replacing the ESC I'm ditching the radio and batteries.
would the cost of the additional radio and receiver offset the extra price of the combo? just curious
Injora Brushed Esc should do the job and a Eco Power Servo
I mean being able to use the stock batteries and transmitter seems to be the big selling point here. It’s very much a stock looking install as compared to the aftermarket deals.
@@johngookinsable possibly but there's a lot of value to me to be able to run whatever batteries I choose and to have at the very least end point adjustment on the steering. Not to mention the added channels to control. I don't think it's a bad set up it's just the iPhone of the RC world. It's really hard to break out of the Traxxas ecosystem...🤷
Idk I'm more of a 10th scale guy so these whole vehicle electronics setups kinda make me itch😂 I like flexibility to change things and Traxxas makes it so I pretty much have to change everything or nothing
I got the starter furitek kit with the radio , esc and receiver … not happy with it .
As cool as this is, I already have a system I'm putting into my TRX4M Bronco.....however, I 'may' get this for my K10...maybe. lol 😅 It does look pretty good though, will admit.
Love the idea, hate they're last to the party and it being overpriced wont help them. I'll stick to more reasonable offerings
I’m really curious about the new hobby wing fusion for the utb18
same and the new QuicRun WP mini24 combo
Just make sure to swap some of the components in the MT over to metal shattered all the plastic ones in mine but a hell of a lot of fun
Should clarify what I broke, shattered the ball on the driveshaft and burned out both diffs just melted the plastic inside and I’m running injora metal speed gearing inside of the metal house transmission Case
That’s what I’m afraid of when putting it into the MT. I know we’re going to shred the plastic parts so quickly
Just like the 2 speed gearbox, you can get better aftermarket ones for CHEAPER.
I picked one of these up right after watching this video. Thanks 😂 I’ll be interested to see how it moves my 2lb bronco (full metal/brass). My son will be happy to get my injora pro motor though. Thanks for the great videos!
I’m hoping you do another video on this with your impressions after giving it some use. Overall I like the power system, however like many others I’m noticing it gets really hot when slow crawling on rocks, also a lot of cogging going on while crawling. I’d be interested to see if you’re experiencing any of these things!
Also, maybe a comparison of this brushless system with some of the other available ones. Might want to try an other one in the future and value your advice.
If this one works with the light kit I’m buying it, I have try other esc and they don’t work with my light kit
It’s the only brushless kit that will maintain the full functionality of the pro scale kit to my knowledge
Thanks for the reply, I’m gonna order it the only thing is gonna ship until mid November
Cool vid! I must say in the interest of timing, Traxxas is late.. Only thing traxxas on my 4m's is the battery and the body... Traxxas aftermarket is terrible on business principles alone, you can't sue people for meeting a need and then trying to monopolize the need with overpriced, sub-par parts..... You can get better, cheaper... somewhere else. Last traxxas product I will ever buy.
if ya want a traxxas just build one out of aftermarket parts lol
Priced this an traxxas is going to price themselves out of business. Switching to Arrma
I love it
Schade, dass sie keinen Inrunner genommen haben. Wie soll ein Outrunner das Traxxasversprechen nach Wasserdichtheit gewährleisten ?
the cost is a little high for keeping the stock radio which isn't that good, no changes to the bec, and no 3s. the options for this don't match the market.
Agree 100%
Idk about this one I have had any luck with Traxxas electronics recently
that is awesome 👌👌😎😎😎👍👍😀
A pretty nice system
ONLY THING ABOUT THE TRAXXAS CONTROLER YOU CAN NOT AJUST ANYTHING SERVO SPEED ....GOT THE CHEAP INJORA WORKS WELL FOR THE 1/18 BUILDS .....THE BRUSHLESS INJORA WOULD NOT WORK WHEN I PUT THE TOGGLES TO 7.4 V I PUT IT BACK TO 6 V AND RUN THE 7.4 V IT WORKS WELL..
I still don’t know how to feel about an alleged “FOC” esc that lacks a sensor
That's because you don't understand what FOC is or what it does. FOC uses intelligent software that analyses back EMF to adjust the 3-phase signal for low speed control, hence no need for sensors.
@@combustionpropulsion4883 well, basically all the 1/10 scale systems are. The fusions might not be, but I always assumed they were and the 2 in 1 designed allowed that to be done on the cheap. Also, the axe systems are sensored which uses FOC. I mean, doing it with back EMF is possible I guess, but no where near as precise as with a sensor. Back EMF has no direct involvement with FOC itself. FOC is merely charging the coils as to create more precise movements, rather than just rotating the 3 phases at full power
@@dylanwhite6539 FOC is pretty much always used in sensored systems, because otherwise there would be no point in being sensored. But it is also commonly used in micro sensorless systems because A, there isn't enough room for sensors and B, you already have to use a powerful processor to get proper FOC, which means it's easier to run a more advanced rotor positioning software and get low speed control without sensors.
all upgrades on my little Bronco cost as much as a big TRX4 😂
The pricing is too high. I got the Furitek kit with the transmitter and the venom motor for cheaper...but the downside is that I cannot use the light kit. So with this I am kinda meh. Overpriced as expected, but not too much...
I didn't see it cog.
Traxxas business practices? What are you referring to 😂 . Way overpriced in my opinion
They got tired of Furitek lol! Water proof? Outrunners are terrible for outdoor use, water, snow, mud, dirt, are all out runner killers.
I heard traxxas just rebranded the mofo rc brushless motor
I hope so! Good for Mofo! He has great stuff!
I might have to pass on this one boy I didn't know mofo just drop all kinds of motors also
as usual, over priced, and Traxxas is keeping you locked into their ecosystem
9th
Day 1 of asking for a free crawler
First 😮, love the videos by the way!
First
I don't understand all the whining over the price of this kit, i've searched a lot of info on a brushless setup for my TRX4M and while i was looking for some different brands i saw the Traxxas ad and i bought it inmediately,together with the 2 speed transmission and a bunch of bearings to get rid of those stupid bushing, i liked the direct replacement nature of it and that you can keep the shi**y stock radio controller, i know it's not cheap but then i thought, "it's MY money and i deserve it" so i bought them
To bad its not 2-3s!
just wait a little while, Traxxas will release a 3s version.