When England had a Rodri but REFUSED to play him!

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • The classic water carriers. The guys who play short and feed other more ‘creative’ talents on the pitch. They regain the ball, lock out for the team, cut off passing lanes and then recycle possession to help the team rebuild and attack. I’ve always felt that without one of these players in your team it’s going to be very hard to succeed!
    The successful teams of the past 20 years have had a player like this in their team. The list is long but let’s just consider a few; Xavi, Gattuso, Dunga, Casemiro, Fernandinho, Javi Martinez and Matic. There’s many more.
    Special mention here for Michael Carrick and Sergio Busquets - for me the two players who evolved this position to become more than just a continuity player, but a creator and continuity in one. Both could dictate from deep yet also be able to control the tempo, keep passes short and recycle possession. Their quality under pressure and intelligence was often ignored or not appreciated. It’s not always easy to be wowed by this type a player, it’s the kind of player which teammates appreciate, which coaches know they can rely on and which the fans who watch every minute across many seasons grow to really love and appreciate. Perhaps you only really know how important this player is when he’s not there. But as Del Bosque said; “Watch the game you won't see Busquets, but watch Busquets and you'll see the game.”

Комментарии • 410

  • @paddyquinlan3329
    @paddyquinlan3329 2 месяца назад +143

    The best English midfield partnership of all time was Scholes and Carrick and I don't think they ever lined out together in an Endland shirt

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +22

      Never ever. Could have lined them up with Lampard in a 3 & have Gerrard out wide or a diamond 4

    • @thrilla72
      @thrilla72 2 месяца назад +6

      ​@@OnTh3Ballno way the best English midfield was Carrick, Scholes and Hargreaves. Same Man Utd midfield in the 07/08 season

    • @lawrencenjawe9875
      @lawrencenjawe9875 2 месяца назад

      Yeah ...but could've been Gerrard/Lampard....But that duo never seriously clicked......

    • @thrilla72
      @thrilla72 2 месяца назад +2

      @@lawrencenjawe9875 there is no way it would. Two players who have people doing the dirty work for them at their clubs. They would both have to completely change their game. Easier to swap one or both for more balance

    • @stealthiscool
      @stealthiscool 2 месяца назад +5

      @@lawrencenjawe9875Lampard and Gerrard should’ve never played with each other imo their skill sets were too similar and they had the same weaknesses as well, that doesn’t even mention the lack of chemistry because they didn’t like each other.
      It should’ve been one or the other if England wanted to succeed in tournament football back then, but England has always had an issue with shoehorning their stars into the same team, balance be damned

  • @bonglesnodkins329
    @bonglesnodkins329 2 месяца назад +67

    English fans want fireworks from their midfielders. That's why Gerrard and Lampard were so highly rated. The guy who directs the flow and tempo in midfield has always been undervalued in English football.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +2

      Yep. We only see box to box. We forgot that Gerrard and Lampard are advanced midfielders. They needed someone behind them

    • @YatesA2211
      @YatesA2211 2 месяца назад

      Agreed. That's why Scholesy retired from England. Cause Stevie G and Lamps always started as the attacking/central midfielders. Carrick never got deserved minutes

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      @@YatesA2211 England never think about balance

  • @chagavah
    @chagavah 2 месяца назад +78

    In 2017 Pep said Carrick was at the same level as Busquets and Xabi Alonso 😱

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +19

      Carrick was very underrated. Pep probably using hyperbole but Carrick was important for United

    • @thehabibiefarooq9135
      @thehabibiefarooq9135 2 месяца назад +1

      Never heard that before. So I respectfully disagree

    • @benedictjajo
      @benedictjajo 2 месяца назад

      ​@@thehabibiefarooq9135Just because you haven't seen a vagina doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    • @benedictjajo
      @benedictjajo 2 месяца назад

      ​@@thehabibiefarooq9135Just because you haven't seen a woman's private part doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    • @junaid_2107
      @junaid_2107 2 месяца назад

      Pep cracks jokes sometimes

  • @dicarpio2177
    @dicarpio2177 2 месяца назад +34

    We were so obsessed with trying to make Lampard and Gerrard work that Carrick was just totally ignored

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +3

      Tactically England is so behind. The football culture always lets them down

  • @Enzoblueblood
    @Enzoblueblood 2 месяца назад +31

    When England had Paul Scholes but wasted him on the left.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +2

      Only appreciate them when it’s too late

    • @77_ACE.
      @77_ACE. 2 месяца назад +1

      Because he was worse than gerrard and lampard England played scholes centrally when gerrard got injured during qualifying, Scholes was a was evident downgrade

  • @wowisowns
    @wowisowns 2 месяца назад +18

    Hey Gareth Southgate here, I thought this video was going to be about Kalvin Phillips. Its what we were clearly missing all tournament.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 Southgate is so funny

    • @Maulicious
      @Maulicious 2 месяца назад

      You are so busy trying to crack a 'joke' you can't see irony of your comment. This video is about an unappreciated player...If England and Pep Guardiola could see a player in Phillips, why can't you???

    • @wowisowns
      @wowisowns 2 месяца назад +2

      @Maulicious Gordon Bennett. Hello Kalvin how are you doing? Hope you're enjoying preseason.

    • @chagavah
      @chagavah 2 месяца назад

      @@Maulicious They just bought him so that he doesn't go to Liverpool

  • @Iron-Bridge
    @Iron-Bridge 2 месяца назад +42

    Back in the day, there was a potential promising future of having Michael Carrick and Joe Cole in England's midfield.
    West Ham"s youth academy had one heck of a golden generation.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +5

      The academy of Football.

    • @Doctor_Kroom
      @Doctor_Kroom 2 месяца назад +1

      Carrick and paul Scholes.

  • @nananou1687
    @nananou1687 2 месяца назад +20

    Keane was a very good conductor. People forget he was probably more technically astute than they would like to admit

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +5

      You’re correct. A good forward passer and also made runs into the final 3rd

    • @1wayroadAccel.
      @1wayroadAccel. 2 месяца назад

      frfr

  • @Leon-Noir
    @Leon-Noir 2 месяца назад +3

    Great footy knowledge bro. As a Spurs fan, we never replaced him or understood what we lost when he left us. He was a brilliant midfielder ahead and would thrive today

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Appreciated 🙏. Very underrated for Spurs. Even myself at the time was surprised when United signed him

  • @haikazumadesu36
    @haikazumadesu36 2 месяца назад +50

    Don't forget about Paul Scholes. They literally did nothing with that guy.

    • @Cautionarywhales-sr4jz
      @Cautionarywhales-sr4jz 2 месяца назад +6

      Paul scholes my fav midfielder of all time

    • @smallperk7822
      @smallperk7822 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Cautionarywhales-sr4jz bro is over rated.

    • @jondickinson2864
      @jondickinson2864 2 месяца назад +3

      He was one of our best players in 98, 2000 and 02, if course they did something with him.

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge 2 месяца назад +8

      Managers kept shunting Scholes out to the wing 🤷‍♂️

    • @jondickinson2864
      @jondickinson2864 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Iron-Bridge not in 98, 00 or 02 they didnt

  • @hustleno-filta5373
    @hustleno-filta5373 2 месяца назад +5

    Carrick was world class!!!!

  • @tris421
    @tris421 3 месяца назад +18

    Good vid but calling Viera and Keane destroyers is just wrong. Also Keane was extremely calm on the ball. The biggest difference between the two was how aggressive they were off the ball. Carrick would win the ball through positional play and interceptions while Keane would win duels.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  3 месяца назад +4

      You’re right. They weren’t just destroyers. I labeled them as destroyers as they were more aggressive than Carrick. Leane was a good forward passer & Vieira was quite elegant

    • @momotheone9700
      @momotheone9700 3 месяца назад +1

      When he called keane a "destroyer", hes not saying kean is not good on the ball, destroyers are just defensive midfielders that break up play, destroyer is only one type of defensive midfielder, you also have holding midfielder who neutralizes the opponent with positional play, the only difference is one uses the ball more, does not mean that both are not good on the ball, i consider pep guardiola, busquest, carrick and rodri as holding midfielders, primary purpose is to neutralize opposition and dictate play, whereas keane, vieira, makelele and kante i consider destroyers they break up opposition play and try to catch them out or cover the defense, they are both defensive mids or even pivots in my eyes, its just playing styled

    • @peterturner2259
      @peterturner2259 2 месяца назад +2

      But that’s the very point of the video! Carrick had a very underrated ability to read the game which meant he could win possession through positioning himself. But what set him apart from his English counterparts was his through ball passing.
      I also think we’re making a similar mistake now by not including Ward-Prowse.

    • @davidi3002
      @davidi3002 2 месяца назад

      Sure, Keane was such an Angel. His "duels" were so smooth and so pleasant no player ever got hurt. Who would ever call Keane a destroyer? The man was all about hugs and kisses. Never fought anyone on the pitch at all. Really bro?

    • @tris421
      @tris421 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@davidi3002 A destroyer implies that all they did was run around breaking up play and making tackles - For example a Gattuso (who was decent on the ball but not as good as Keane or Viera). It undermines their qualities on the ball where both players were a lot more than 'destroyers'.
      If you actually read the comment it states 'aggressive off the ball'. Where do I imply they were running around being soft, hugging and kissing. You must be simple.

  • @carltondelva5726
    @carltondelva5726 2 месяца назад +2

    Finally Michael Carrick my fave Man U player overlooked and underpaid under appreciated

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Very under appreciated. Looks a top gaffer too

  • @aelere7702
    @aelere7702 2 месяца назад +2

    I always liked Carrick, I thought he was a magnificent midfielder and constantly overlooked.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Extremely underrated, would have helped bring balance to England

  • @plaisukhum7934
    @plaisukhum7934 2 месяца назад +6

    The biggest impact Carrick's retirement had on United was instead of playing him with an 8 like Herrera, United had to resort to using McFred just for his job. Both of them weren't great at it. United STILL haven't replaced Carrick properly.
    Considering how lackluster Rooney's strike partner usually is for England, it's a surprise they never tried using the ready made 3 in midfield they would have had. Carrick, Gerrard and Lampard would quite literally have the perfect balance

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Agreed. Mainoo is the closest we’ve had but he’s probably 5-7 years away from his prime. Yep, the Rooney x Welbeck/Heskey in the early 2000s didn’t work well

    • @chagavah
      @chagavah 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball Mainoo is not a deep playmaker

    • @muhammadamirnajwabinmohdna16
      @muhammadamirnajwabinmohdna16 2 месяца назад

      Pogba?

    • @plaisukhum7934
      @plaisukhum7934 2 месяца назад

      @@muhammadamirnajwabinmohdna16 the only time pogba had decent consistent performances is when carrick was next to him. Pogba may have the technical capacity but he does not have the football IQ nor the discipline to do his job. We saw this many times, mr 1 good game in 10 indeed

  • @Vadelinoz
    @Vadelinoz 2 месяца назад +1

    These type of players are rare. In this modern football other than Rodri, I could only name Palhinha. Mainoo still need much to prove.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Yep. Football is going back to purely destroyers playing as the DM

  • @cdanerz3677
    @cdanerz3677 2 месяца назад +1

    I knew from the very start he was talking about Carrick before he said his name 😂

  • @alanfinch5365
    @alanfinch5365 2 месяца назад +3

    Carrick, England, most underrated player
    Should of easily had 100+ caps

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Facts. Would have been way more appreciated if he was from a big nation

  • @Lord_OTD
    @Lord_OTD 2 месяца назад +2

    Is this man taking a piss?!
    Paul Scholes was the ultimate playmaker. Well above Rodri’s level and way beyond Carrick’s.
    England never know how to use their best players until it’s too late.

    • @andylynch9775
      @andylynch9775 2 месяца назад

      I agree, Scholes was one of the all time greats, Southgate just did the exact same thing at the Euros not playing Adam Wharton too

  • @unfairworld5914
    @unfairworld5914 2 месяца назад +2

    It's been obvious for years that we need players like Busquets ,Rodri that control the tempo of the game otherwise when it comes to international tournaments especially played in hot conditions premiere league players after a long season can't play beautiful direct box to box futball.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Yep. International football you have to either be able to dominate the ball or dominate the spaces. England don’t really do either that well

  • @bodyer2120
    @bodyer2120 2 месяца назад +1

    Carrick was class and did the simple thing which proved very effective. He wasnt spectacular, he didnt need to be. He was as good as you get.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Good summary, he knew his role in the team. He would allow the others to shine

    • @bodyer2120
      @bodyer2120 2 месяца назад

      ​@@OnTh3Ball
      Exactly. We are talking about a team, especially one that is well oiled and drilled. Imagine having a team of 11 Ronaldos. It would win nothing as they would be falling over each other.

  • @alekseifedorov949
    @alekseifedorov949 2 месяца назад +1

    As a foreign guy I agree. Not that special level of Rodri, but still tempo dictating space reading 6 Michael was

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Very underrated player Carrick was

  • @gunjankumar7210
    @gunjankumar7210 2 месяца назад +4

    England currently have another spanish-styled midfielder in Adam Wharton. They should nurture him.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Reckon he’s better than Mainoo

    • @gunjankumar7210
      @gunjankumar7210 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball I wouldn't say that exactly. Profile-wise they are as similar/different to each other as Busquets vs Toure or Kimmich vs Schweinsteiger or even Carrick vs Gerrard, though profile isn't a thing at 18. It changes with time and experience. But yeah, I like him more.

    • @ambesmith5601
      @ambesmith5601 2 месяца назад

      Someone with Thesame view..
      I think this warton kid is going to cook and be generational..

    • @learntooilpaint
      @learntooilpaint 2 месяца назад

      Not better, but different. Wharton is a true busquets style player. Maino is really an 8.

    • @ambesmith5601
      @ambesmith5601 2 месяца назад

      @@learntooilpaint yeah true..
      And he's better in his difference lol..
      In my opinion anyway

  • @wordlessman1759
    @wordlessman1759 2 месяца назад

    Carrick said in an interview he refused to play for england , not that they didn't selection him

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Towards the later part of his career I remember him refusing to be on the standby list

  • @kieran9882
    @kieran9882 2 месяца назад +2

    Adam Wharton is a similar profile and more of a natural no.6 than Rice. Rice is great, but he’s better as more of a box to box, as Arsenal found when Jorginho/Partey wasn’t playing. Wharton is better at dictating the tempo, usually speeding things up and passing through the lines.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      That’s an interesting observation. Wharton has a better range than both Mainoo & Rice

  • @Citeh_Blue
    @Citeh_Blue 2 месяца назад +1

    This is a dope video 🍻

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Appreciated man 🙏

  • @2kool4myskool
    @2kool4myskool 2 месяца назад +1

    How is it even possible that Carrick never played for England?

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      He played a few games, but for some reason England managers didn’t see his value

  • @laurentiusmichaelgeorge1118
    @laurentiusmichaelgeorge1118 2 месяца назад

    A United fan here. Carrick might be just below Rodri and Busquets in terms of level. But still a solid third. Generational talent if you ask me, just not the flashy-styled one.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      He was superb, not a surprise United went downhill as soon as he began to age

  • @woklam342
    @woklam342 2 месяца назад +3

    i think england lose is not because quality but one player didn t play because injured. lord king harry magiure, without him england decrease winning . with him england play for and against team

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +2

      Haha. Tbh Lord Harry Maguire plays well for England. His penalty vs Italy 🔥

  • @nasilelelisselo2348
    @nasilelelisselo2348 2 месяца назад

    Scott Parker and Michael Carrick were the best midfielders English were doomed to have a blind eye on.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Scott Parker was an interesting player

  • @ndukaemmanuel-vl1wh
    @ndukaemmanuel-vl1wh 2 месяца назад +1

    Pep was a midfielder genius himself placed carrick on same the level with busquet, Alonso
    The truth about the failure of England team especially their golden generation was as as a result of lack of balance in the midfield

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Yep, Gerrard and Lampard both require a holder

  • @dscwac396
    @dscwac396 2 месяца назад +1

    Everyone used to ask what carrick did, simply put win.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Facts, United still miss him. England could have benefited

    • @dscwac396
      @dscwac396 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball Man U lacks a leader and overpays everyone

  • @wmurray689
    @wmurray689 2 месяца назад +1

    In fact, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Utd tried to nick him from under the nose of the biggest clubs in Europe. Then again, he is a Blackburn fan.

  • @dondamon4669
    @dondamon4669 2 месяца назад +2

    Should of been Scholes, Carrick and Hargreaves for England

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Hargareves performed well for England but his injury record was an issue

  • @facts2676
    @facts2676 2 месяца назад

    Busquets 🐐

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Got an interesting video coming out soon on Busquets

    • @facts2676
      @facts2676 2 месяца назад +1

      @@OnTh3Ball Nice!

  • @dominiccedits
    @dominiccedits 3 месяца назад +9

    barca need Rodri , it would change everything

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  3 месяца назад +2

      He would be a phenomenal signing. Would be great for El Clasico

    • @Sheikyo7
      @Sheikyo7 3 месяца назад +5

      Rodri ain't gonna downgrade

    • @abj_mukherjee
      @abj_mukherjee 2 месяца назад +1

      Barca can't afford Rodri 😂

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge 2 месяца назад

      They've already got De Jong, no?

    • @alitmahendra891
      @alitmahendra891 2 месяца назад +1

      Already too late now, no? After Euro all those player price gonaa sky rocketed Rodri, Olmo, Williams, Ruiz etc

  • @FPL_Sassy
    @FPL_Sassy 2 месяца назад +1

    England don't deserve players like Carrick and Scholes.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Wish they were Italian or Brazilian

  • @chagavah
    @chagavah 2 месяца назад +2

    Funny how utd now need a Keane, Scholes and Carrick, all of them. Things got worse for them

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      United’s recruitment is a mess

    • @chagavah
      @chagavah 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball Ash and Jim will fix it

  • @siberianTiger639
    @siberianTiger639 2 месяца назад +5

    Carrick was underrated and underused by the national team but let's not exaggarate, he wasn't really close to current Rodri.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Of course not as good but similar profiles

    • @geofferydian5357
      @geofferydian5357 2 месяца назад +2

      Nope, for that generation he was decent. Did those trophies came from nothing? Football nowadays are so improved, everything is calculated, from positioning to when to beat a defender/player everything basically. Football is like chess, if you don't have the right piece, you will have a hard time. Which what Rodri is for Spain and Man City. Carrick was one of those piece for United, but England FA or whoever manages that team failed to see his value. I am not Manchester United btw nor am I English. I watched football as much as any football fan have, football definitely have been modernized. That's why you are saying Rodri is better than Carrick. I could easily say, Mbappe has all physical qualities that CR7 and Messi never had so he is the best player in the world. But he is not is he? Because stats don't lie. Carrick has won more trophies than Rodri.

  • @lutosibotoboto1088
    @lutosibotoboto1088 2 месяца назад +1

    England (English media to be specific) value looking busy and work rate over technical ability and footballing IQ.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Facts, they love the bulldog spirit. They think flying about in midfield like a madman is the way to go

  • @phillyjackson1680
    @phillyjackson1680 2 месяца назад

    i still can’t believe carrick never played for england

  • @elmikadir7653
    @elmikadir7653 2 месяца назад +1

    Yes.. england needed balance then.. sadly they used 4-4-2 formation.. should've changed to 4-3-3 or 4-1-2-3 and accomodate carrick at the base..

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Yep, 4-3-3 or even a diamond would’ve suited England perfectly

  • @wmurray689
    @wmurray689 2 месяца назад +1

    If Adam Wharton gets overlooked I'm done with English football.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Reckon he’s better than Mainoo?

    • @wmurray689
      @wmurray689 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball Different type of player. Wharton is an out and out pivot. Mainoo, IMO is not.

    • @okflyaway99
      @okflyaway99 2 месяца назад

      Very likely to get overlooked.
      The English still has an outdated view of the game, which is outrunning and slide tackles your opponents, and gives no importance to game control through possession, which is opposite of the Guardiola's Positional Play Philosophy.

  • @XCIX898
    @XCIX898 2 месяца назад +1

    No Carrick is just on the same level with Kalvin Phillips 😂

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Rodri is better than a Carrick but Carrick in the same level as Phillips is harsh

  • @sadLeshrac
    @sadLeshrac 2 месяца назад +1

    Carrick was class, but it's no excuse. if you are as great as Pirlo and Alonso, you would stand out.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Agreed. Pirlo/Alonso is next level. For me Pirlo is the best controller we’ve seen

  • @tfan5927
    @tfan5927 2 месяца назад

    He is more like rice but slightly better than rice. Rodri is a monster.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +2

      Carrick? Rice doesn’t really play that many penetrative passes like Carrick

    • @peterblescak3520
      @peterblescak3520 2 месяца назад

      Rice is very overrated!

  • @michellechukwu1848
    @michellechukwu1848 2 месяца назад

    Truth is, england selection is based on hype and price tag, not talent. This is their major problem. English FA should select a spanish coach coz obviously spain rules the world in football

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      It seems like England managers are afraid of making big decisions. Tbh, the fans will moan regardless of who’s selected

    • @michellechukwu1848
      @michellechukwu1848 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball then they should ignore the media and focus on the joy of football. If you look carefully, english football has lost or has little joy of it due to the hype and media unlike in spain,the joy of football is still there, the frenzy and craziness in football is there. In england, it's bland, media coverage, hype and price tag

    • @michellechukwu1848
      @michellechukwu1848 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball imagine midfield like carrick, scholes, gerrard and lampard. This midfield tempo could have been crazy. Carrick and scholes behind gerrard and lampard. The media will always be the media and you can eliminate it. The problem is not the media, it's the selection period and I feel it's the english FA selection not the coach's selection and I mean for capello and erikson.
      Southgate? I never trusted his judgement and selection, ever

  • @NuclearNadal14
    @NuclearNadal14 Месяц назад +1

    The thing is Rodri is thriving in an era where players with flairs and techniques are extinct while system players are becoming more common.To fans who compare him to Busquets,please stop!

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  Месяц назад

      That’s a fair assessment. Most attackers today are not superfluous. However, I do believe Rodri is more complete than busquets attribute wise

    • @NuclearNadal14
      @NuclearNadal14 Месяц назад

      @@OnTh3Ball If Rodri have Xavi,Messi and Iniesta in front,I doubt we will ever see a "complete" Rodri.But the fact that Busquets could make his own name in that midfield is something fans are not willing to properly discuss till today.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  Месяц назад

      @@NuclearNadal14 That's fair, to get attention when you have all those star names ahead of you shows Busquets quality. However, I do believe Rodri can play in multiple systems. He has thrived with Simeone and Pep, two completely different coaches

    • @NuclearNadal14
      @NuclearNadal14 Месяц назад

      @@OnTh3Ball Fair enough

  • @brianhonan7582
    @brianhonan7582 2 месяца назад +1

    very good

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Appreciated Brian 🤝

  • @loudmouthdiaries5188
    @loudmouthdiaries5188 2 месяца назад +1

    Depend on how old you are
    Carrick was a attacking midfielder
    United bought a AM
    But circumstances and chance made a Deep lying playmaker.
    He simplifies the game but united squad was awesome so there wasn't much praise.

  • @mrajaram7676
    @mrajaram7676 2 месяца назад

    England could had made stones to play in that position he's was perfect for man citys outfit

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      True he could do that role. However he was needed in defence. Especially as the other CBs were less experienced

  • @RaymondButler-h4x
    @RaymondButler-h4x 2 месяца назад +6

    Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant video.
    But you are wasting it on persons who feel they know everything.
    Carrick in his lifetime from youth to adult won about 20 trophies.
    Lampard 13
    Gerard 9
    So he won as many as the 2 put together.
    Rodri tho in his lifetime won as many as 16 trophies and he is only 28.
    But Carrick was the best England has ever produced and that is what the vid is about.
    It is the reason they cannot win world titles.
    They are blessed with box to box players.
    Robson Gerard Lampard Jude Scholes Ruce 12:20 all world class but they do not produce or encourage DLPs. The closest in my lifetime was Peter Reid a ballon d'or nominee.
    Most of the DLPs are imported.
    Idk if the speed of the game the temp or the english bulldog run hard tackle hard philosophy is the reason.
    In 2014 they preferred to carry a 36 yr lampard and a 34 yr gerard instead of a 32 yr carrick.
    England doest reward craft and guile they prefer industry putting in an honest shift. So they will exalt the labourers and ignore or criticise the artist. You should do a vid on the No. 10 positiom. Ask the question why Hoddle Madders are constantly overlooked while England prefer to play long balls.
    Its sad to see such talented players wasted.
    Great vid dude.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Super comment. The football culture in England definitely doesnt reward guile & creativity. Only recently have they started to show an appreciation, but still quite negative. That’s super interesting the suggestion you made about Hoddle & Madders. Madders is a proper street baller!

    • @Doctor_Kroom
      @Doctor_Kroom 2 месяца назад +4

      Paul Scholes was not a box to box player he was a playmaker admired even by xavi.

    • @Jomiloju-xw6wg
      @Jomiloju-xw6wg 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Doctor_Kroom a box to box is a cm scoles is a cm

  • @christopherxavier3861
    @christopherxavier3861 2 месяца назад +1

    Croatia the game was all around a 39 yrs old player

  • @user-df5kr3ld4r
    @user-df5kr3ld4r 3 месяца назад +4

    What a player!!!

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  3 месяца назад +1

      Should he win Ballon d'Or?

  • @peterturner2259
    @peterturner2259 2 месяца назад +4

    It was due to having a shite manager who only played 4-4-2 instead of 4-5-1 or 3-5-2 . Then we could Utilise our greatest asset MIDFIELD!

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +4

      The managers were so focused on only getting the big names in the XI. Could’ve easily went Scholes Carrick Lampard in Midfield & have Gerrard wide or even a diamond or something.

    • @Pad13
      @Pad13 2 месяца назад

      Nothing changes. The new manager might have to leave Foden or Bellingham on the bench and play a lesser player for the sake of the team. Nothing wrong with having quality on the bench. So many games go into extra time anyways.

    • @litleboy1191
      @litleboy1191 14 дней назад +1

      @@OnTh3Ball and thats how italy won in 2006, cant have del piero and totti together

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  14 дней назад

      @@litleboy1191 facts, they prioritised tactical & team balance over having a FIFA Ultimate team

  • @romrich
    @romrich 2 месяца назад

    It makes me happy that England gets generational talent and accomplishes nothing

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      2026 I can’t see them winning in the United States too

  • @larrysonjames3453
    @larrysonjames3453 2 месяца назад

    with respect for Lampard & Stevie, their best midfielder is Scholes. their best CDM was Carrick. i hope Declan Rice can be on par with Rodri. COYG!!! 😅😅

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Reckon Arsenal win the league next season

  • @tonydecentblackman1327
    @tonydecentblackman1327 2 месяца назад +1

    Agreed.

  • @TheNoirAlien
    @TheNoirAlien 2 месяца назад

    Blame the set up. England managers for some reason never have the proper leadership skills, heard someone say it’s because the government doesn’t want the public to have anything to celebrate, keep us on a low vibration 😅

  • @Bread_Garlichouse
    @Bread_Garlichouse 3 месяца назад +185

    He was well below Rodri level. Stop overrating your players

    • @haikazumadesu36
      @haikazumadesu36 3 месяца назад +1

      You missed the point you dunce.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  3 месяца назад +102

      Yes, Rodri is better. But England had a player of a similar profile to Rodri but they didn’t use him

    • @tris421
      @tris421 2 месяца назад +41

      he was still an excellent player. Probably only 1 player in history has been better at that job than Rodri so it's not really an insult.

    • @MrTthaha
      @MrTthaha 2 месяца назад +9

      @@tris421no, that is an exaggeration lol.

    • @mainzachilombe5841
      @mainzachilombe5841 2 месяца назад +59

      Carrick and Sergio Busquets have a similar game style ...to say rodri is better than any of the two is absurd 🤦🏿‍♂️ ​@@MrTthaha

  • @enjoyablevids
    @enjoyablevids 2 месяца назад

    He is not even close to Rodri what the hell man 🤣🤣

  • @christopherxavier3861
    @christopherxavier3861 2 месяца назад

    Yes england never played the final like a final they only had 2 chances 1 was a goal n another near goal . England deserve to win on the base that england never won a euro or a world cup for years . That is the only pity we haveupon england in term of game they never had it we need a young coach with fire

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Who would you like to see as the next manager?

  • @mrajaram7676
    @mrajaram7676 2 месяца назад

    Steven Gerrard could had been perfect deep lying play maker for england Carrick looks like a more central midfielder

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Gerrard done the role later in his Liverpool career, but in his prime he wanted to attack
      A lot

    • @richardlabeja
      @richardlabeja 2 месяца назад

      Despite being a starting player, Steven Gerrard underachieved for England. He tried to do everything but ended up giving the ball away a lot.

  • @iwonabesedated5748
    @iwonabesedated5748 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh please 🙄 this comparison is just insulting

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Rodri is better but they have a similar profile

  • @Samuel-hd3cp
    @Samuel-hd3cp 2 месяца назад +2

    Oh come on! You can't seriously argue that Carrick was comparable to Rhodri!
    Rhodri is just amazing.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      They were of similar profile. Rodri is superior but you can argue Carrick had the better final ball

    • @denisdiderot6779
      @denisdiderot6779 2 месяца назад +1

      How old are you bro? If youve been watched football from before the 2010s, you'd know that Rodri is the modern version of Carrick/Busquets.

  • @twinkletoe8941
    @twinkletoe8941 2 месяца назад

    Carrick was an average number 6 at best. Sure he could hit a long diagonal pass, but he couldn't pass through the lines, was terrible on the half turn, and wasnt press resistant at all.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Not sure if I agree. In 2012/13, Carrick played some great passes to RvP & Chicharito

    • @haikazumadesu36
      @haikazumadesu36 2 месяца назад

      That's not true at all

  • @gemboel1332
    @gemboel1332 2 месяца назад +3

    What aboutism, maybe if scholes, Carrick and wilshere could've played at their peak together, the gap with spain wouldnt had to be that big, but still england will still be outclassed, england overall has problem with their football mindset, carrick , scholes, and wilshere are just some exceptions among millions

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      I agree 1000% with you. The football culture in England is a problem. It discourages creativity in any way. To be honest even if they played Carrick, Wilshere & Scholes. They would’ve found a way to make these geniuses less effective

    • @thrilla72
      @thrilla72 2 месяца назад

      ​@@OnTh3Ball that midfield 3 would be unbalanced

  • @agent4758
    @agent4758 2 месяца назад +1

    Rodri>>>>>>> every english midfielders ever existed.

  • @stevenwhitelaw1306
    @stevenwhitelaw1306 2 месяца назад

    Hard to play a guy who spent most of his career on the treatment table

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +3

      From 2008-2014 (his peak) Carrick was often available

    • @winstoneerickarema
      @winstoneerickarema 2 месяца назад

      ​@@OnTh3Ball I think he got it switched with Hargreaves, who's excellent yet injury prone. Hargreaves was utilized well in 2006 though with him staying the deepest behind Joe Cole - Lampard - Gerrard - Beckham. They only lost to Portugal by Penalty Shootout. Forcing Scholes to play on the left wouldn't bode better as shown in 2004

    • @MegaDAli95
      @MegaDAli95 2 месяца назад

      No true at all. Carrick was fit most of his career. You must be thinking of Hargreaves.

  • @grealish2234
    @grealish2234 2 месяца назад

    This video is made by a United fan just cause he wants some mention of his players in great company

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Didn’t say Carrick was better

  • @brendansait2137
    @brendansait2137 2 месяца назад

    As soon as Carrick was mentioned, I couldn’t watch anymore. Rodri as about 5 levels above Carrick. Carrick was a crab with a sideways passing movement.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      I never said he was as good as Rodri. They’re similar profile players

    • @brendansait2137
      @brendansait2137 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball maybe rethink the title then.

    • @Jomiloju-xw6wg
      @Jomiloju-xw6wg 2 месяца назад

      ​@@brendansait2137 he is a better passer than rodri, not our fault you have 0 football knowledge

    • @brendansait2137
      @brendansait2137 2 месяца назад

      @@Jomiloju-xw6wg I’m really sorry of my opinion and apparently bad football knowledge but Carrick has not got the passing ability of Rodri. If you put the question to a poll you would get laughed at. Rodri is the best midfielder in the world and that my friend was one thing Carrick was a million miles from being.

  • @abdize4678
    @abdize4678 2 месяца назад +3

    i see people saying he is not better than rodri but he was in every aspect of the game better from reading the game to passes and no one in england saw his importance in a time with way better midfielders than today, the only one better can be bosquets but i understand people who did not watch him much saying this

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Fair point. I would personally say Rodri is superior. But Carrick did have more direct passing

  • @TheUnitedView79
    @TheUnitedView79 2 месяца назад

    Did you just refer to Scholes as a third wheel??
    Oof… englands problem is and has always been management..
    But Carrick was definitely under rated and should have had loads more caps than he did…

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      At the time he was seen as the 3rd wheel. Gerrard & Lampard were rated higher in the media

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Definitely, disgraceful how he wasn’t used

    • @TheUnitedView79
      @TheUnitedView79 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball media always had an anti United bias, still does.. Scholes was the best midfielder of his generation but was poorly used by England managers who shoe horned him, Gerard and Lampard in a midfield instead of using a system to suit

  • @christopherxavier3861
    @christopherxavier3861 2 месяца назад +1

    Frank Lampard from the english golden era who didnt achieved anyrhing has played the english game at all level he knows the pain of lossing n the agony of not winning anyrhing he has the pedigree to command the respect of so call world class english players we have digest southgate for 10 failed years we can digest frank for2 yrs . Pep not possible he dont trust english players city zero english klopp liverpool zero english poch not english flavour .

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Lampard as the next England manager interesting. I could see Eddie Howe as a potential candidate

  • @paolorossi784
    @paolorossi784 2 месяца назад +2

    Calling Michael carrick "Rodri" is an insult to Rodri and the collective intelligence of football lovers. Stop with this nonsense.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Never said he’s better. They’re similar stylistically

  • @Popular_opinion
    @Popular_opinion 2 месяца назад

    Carrick on Rodri's level?

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Nope, but similar profiles

  • @darhaha3391
    @darhaha3391 2 месяца назад

    I was happy to not say anything and let you united fans have your fun until the sarcastic and disrespectful mention of Gareth Barry... Barry was a famtastic player and at least defensively a lot better than Carrick.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Tbh you are right, I did underrate Barry in this video. There is a reason why he’s made so many Premier League appearances

  • @BigRukN4
    @BigRukN4 3 месяца назад +1

    😭🙌🏾

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  3 месяца назад

      Rodri Ballon d'Or for you?

    • @BigRukN4
      @BigRukN4 3 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball Yes he’s already completed football won every trophy on club and international level except the WC

  • @MBison-vm6gq
    @MBison-vm6gq 2 месяца назад

    🤣 Carrick is no Rodri. I know its for content sake but you lose credibility with such statements

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Never said Carrick is as good or better. He has a similar profile & could have been useful for England especially as they could barely string any passes

  • @Trapohoncho
    @Trapohoncho 2 месяца назад

    You’re 6 years late with this video.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      My bad 😥

    • @Trapohoncho
      @Trapohoncho 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball it’s cool I watched it already

  • @jeanlsmrio
    @jeanlsmrio 2 месяца назад

    Busquets was better than Rodri tho. And he never got that hype around him.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      It can be debated tbh. Busquets nicer to watch on the ball but Rodri the last few years has been extremely strong

  • @fovis2859
    @fovis2859 2 месяца назад

    Until English media and fans stop the stupidity of overhyping players, they will never have a team and continue to win nothing. Carrick is nothing close to Rodri. Rodri is a midfield general, he can do everything perfectly in midfield. Carrick was an average player

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      I never said Carrick was as good. Just stated he’s of a similar profile. Average is harsh for a player who was a starter in CL and many title wins

    • @fovis2859
      @fovis2859 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball he is not a similar profile. Rodri can do everything any midfielder can do perfectly. Carrick can't. There is nothing similar

    • @fovis2859
      @fovis2859 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball Don't forget, Victor Valdes was a starter and he had 4 UCL and 7 Leagues. What's the point? Does that make him similar to Neur or Cech or Van Der Sar or Casillas?

    • @fovis2859
      @fovis2859 2 месяца назад

      @@OnTh3Ball you should be comparing Rodri with all time greats like Busquets, Viera, Lothar Matthaus. Not Carrick

  • @christopherxavier3861
    @christopherxavier3861 2 месяца назад

    England had agreat team with young player who can play a fast game but england had a stupid coach who played counter attact waiting for other team to get tired . Southgate killed so many young good telent

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Southgate could’ve been better but the players have to take responsibility too

  • @christopherxavier3861
    @christopherxavier3861 2 месяца назад

    Yeah rodri a good player we in england dont need rodri to win a euor or a world cup we have enough good players to form a team we dont need no induvidual or a player like jude to spoil the team want to be the hero n want the ball alm the time spain dont have jude the greedy player

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      You not a fan of Jude?

  • @Zoup009
    @Zoup009 2 месяца назад +1

    This is nothing new, in 1982, they tragically ignored Glenn Hoddle in most games of the World cup. He was one of the most creative players ever born, but England never saw his value and preferred hard work and industriousness rather than a creative brain. This culture has been long-standing; it is nothing new. England is the team that loves to self-sabotage.😂🤣

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад +1

      Great insight. Hoddle was even one of England’s better managers too. Introduced the 3 at the back in this country

  • @christopherxavier3861
    @christopherxavier3861 2 месяца назад

    What so great about rodri spain only beat england with a goal either team could have score england was not playing a good game spain beat engkand 2 to 1 if england played agood game england could have won on pemalty if spain a team how was it england score abeauty goal . Where did rodri go when england score n almost win late in the game .

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Rodri is a very good player. I do t think he should win win Ballon d’Or and I don’t think he was Spain’s best player this tournament

  • @stickerz677
    @stickerz677 2 месяца назад +2

    Carrick for England head coach

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      He done really well as United’s interim

  • @christopherxavier3861
    @christopherxavier3861 2 месяца назад

    At this euro no player or a team had a outstanding preforence all average norhing special about this euro England could have won with the players they had wasted

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      You don’t think Spain bossed it? Beating Croatia, Italy, Germany, France & England sounds impressive to me

  • @deisler50
    @deisler50 2 месяца назад

    It is the first time I hear that Carrick is overrated

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      He wasn’t as good as Rodri but England could have used him in a Rodri role considering how unbaked the midfield was

  • @christopherxavier3861
    @christopherxavier3861 2 месяца назад

    If rodri is so good why england can a beauty of a goal n could have won the game headed save by spain .a player is only good when there is 10 good player supporting him .

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Rodri is good, but he wasn’t Spain’s best player at the EURO

  • @emmanuelobiajuru7922
    @emmanuelobiajuru7922 2 месяца назад

    The idea behind this video is the reason why England don't do well in competition prior to now Carrick and rodri shouldn't be compared Carrick is overrated and overhyped

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Rodri is a better player than Carrick, but they have a similar profile. I believe Carrick would have been of use for England especially as their midfield was so unbalanced

  • @danielmabicka7169
    @danielmabicka7169 Месяц назад +1

    Wasted Paul Scholes, wasted Carrick, it's incredible how British coach lack creativity and tactical innovation, stucked in a comical parodical 4-4-2,

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  Месяц назад

      Agreed, the football culture in this country is horrific

  • @marloncampbell4708
    @marloncampbell4708 2 месяца назад

    Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅

  • @lovteito8818
    @lovteito8818 2 месяца назад

    carrick 😂
    what a joke,england rodri🤣🤣🤣🤣not even close,not even compete to busquet..

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Rodri is better but Carrick has a similar profile, could’ve been useful for the England side that was unbalanced

  • @christopherxavier3861
    @christopherxavier3861 2 месяца назад

    All team played a average game there were no outstanding players itwas anybody's game France n germany both didnt have anything special to offer england n spain it could have gone either way sometimes football god predicts but dont take anything away from spain they played to win .

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      I agree with you that France and Germany weren’t at their best. However in the final Spain thoroughly deserved to win imo. England didn’t generate much chances

  • @thetruth4654
    @thetruth4654 3 месяца назад +2

    Rodri is soo much better then Carrick, Carrick was a very good player, but come on

    • @haikazumadesu36
      @haikazumadesu36 3 месяца назад +4

      They're talking about players of a similar profile who would drive the team play, not who was better than Rodri.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  3 месяца назад +2

      Agreed, Rodri is better. But England had a player of a similar profile to Rodri but didn’t utilise him

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  3 месяца назад +1

      Spot on

  • @77_ACE.
    @77_ACE. 2 месяца назад

    WE NEED TO START GATEKEEPING FOOTBALL from outsiders that DO NOT WATCH THE SPORT ASAP. It would prevent awful opinions and videos like this.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      What was said that was controversial?

  • @justcruised
    @justcruised 2 месяца назад +2

    England should stop overating your players . No wonder it's never coming home 😂

    • @hunterhorsehelmsley7315
      @hunterhorsehelmsley7315 2 месяца назад

      The guy speaking in the video isn't English though. He sounds American. Blaming the English for an American hyping up their players is wild.
      Imagine a German calling Yamal the greatest of all time, and you told him to stop overrating his players.

  • @andrewa.garshong3198
    @andrewa.garshong3198 2 месяца назад +9

    I am a Man UTD fan, I watched Carrick. He wasn't as good as Rodri. He wasn't even half of Rodri. He was slow, weak, couldn't dribble good, decent shooting, very good passer (too many back passes), didn't go for headers and okay defensively. Rodri is way better. Let's stop hyping him. He was good, not great but Rodri is.

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  2 месяца назад

      Rodri was a better player but both players had similarities. The main difference is that Rodri has more iconic moments & is probably a better big game player

    • @FootkerSnookball
      @FootkerSnookball 2 месяца назад +2

      How was Carrick weak?

    • @tanmoon19
      @tanmoon19 2 месяца назад +2

      I think if Carrick played in a Guardiola setup it would pretty much one and the same player. The difference between the two is the setup in which they played United being more direct and City's slow build up.
      United would go long period without seeing the ball with Carras main job being to protect the defence. Carrick's only sin is that he is English. But weak, sorry on that I don't agree with you, maybe reactive yes due to setup he played. Just my two Cents

    • @learntooilpaint
      @learntooilpaint 2 месяца назад

      Talking balls, wasn’t weak, wasn’t slow. The bs about back passes has been shown to be cobblers too. He certainly isn’t as good as rodeo, but he also hasn’t played the same role. I think I’ll take xavi and peps view over yours.

    • @warmtrees4013
      @warmtrees4013 2 месяца назад

      Busquets strong and fast

  • @JmabHally86
    @JmabHally86 Месяц назад

    Carrick easy better all round player than rodri

    • @OnTh3Ball
      @OnTh3Ball  Месяц назад

      Big statement, Carrick a more direct passer in my eyes