So I counted the tooth clicks on my matco vs cornwell and cornwell is advertised as 120 but its only has 90. unless they updated it. My Platinum is 72 teeth, the matco and cornwell are 90 . Icon are ordered as well. I will compare mountain and icon tooth clicks as well.
I was able to snag the Icon versions for $135 during an Icon wrench 40% off sale. It's hard to beat that price and the easy no questions asked Icon lifetime warranty.
I’ve been wanting a set of those wrenches. So after coming across your channel I went to the Walmart site and found them for the $154.30 price. A Big Thank You!🍻
I must have a set of those wrenches! Thanks for the video. As to the price variations, I am no longer turning my nose up at Harbor Freight. They have stepped up their game with a better line of tools to compliment their "cheapest thing you can buy" lines.
I have shop at harborfreight ever since they open shop in my city. They were the go to tools that you can hammer and not care about because it was cheap.
I have some of their icon products. Namely their $60 octagon lights. I’d put them up against strap-on any day if the week. Can’t say the same for the rest of the line, that’s just my own experience so far.
Unfortunately HF and their ICON brand has alot of fake within that line. I just watched a video with the Icon ratchet being the exact same 20.00 Amazon ratchet. He took both apart and they are literally identical. Even the PART NUMBER is the same. The only difference was the Icon name on one of them.
I had a set of gear wrench branded wrenches like these and they saved me so many times and made me a bunch of money but for a set of like 6-7 it was 300 bucks but they didn’t have the extended part it was flush , love them and recommend them to anyone in the industry they give you leverage and tight spaces.
Lou is speaking facts. The bit about the work you need to do in order to pay off the tool is so smart. The name on the tool does not mean it will always do a better job
@@MasterTechLou For sure. Admittedly there are some tool truck products that are better (scan tools, etc) but for stuff like wrenches, the higher cost does not equal a better tool. Thanks for putting out a video explaining something I think about whenever I need tools lol
@@brianriggin4560 Many aircraft, tractors, heavy equipment, construction and electrical use SAE still. I find modified vehicles with SAE HW on them from time to time as well, and that 3/8 comes in handy often when that 10mm is rounded :)
@johnlagreca6288 It was more of a facetious question. I know it's still around. I mean, the entire rest of the world uses metric, except the old American curmudgeon guy. And since the US doesn't manufacture anything original, we outsource production jobs and materials from the rest of the world. It's an outdated system of measure that just complicates everything.
Thanks for sharing this info with us. As a result of your video I opted for the ICON version strictly on the HF ease of warranty process. I did go ahead and searched on eBay and found them for $130 with free shipping. Just couldn't justify $224.99 original price!
Master Tech Lou.. New subscriber here.. I have been on the fence about these wrenches for a while because of the price. Now I know which set to get. Thanks for sharing this.
Glad to help! I am a very indecisive buyer. In fact even tho I have the platinum ones now, I just ordered the icon due to the 25% off coupon today. So I can do a comparison video in the near future. But to me I am happy to have the 72 teeth as the less teeth the stronger, and I am using these for length not really strength but its good to have it.
I found out about ADT 20yrs ago, got a random socket from a parts store, best socket ever. I always look for them first when I need tools, never had a bad experience.
Rarely subscribe to channels. Never say why I do. You sir have great commentating skills and a priceless mechanical knowledge. Keep going. If success is your goal on this platform you’ll go far
I got the Carlyle set from Napa years ago. Can't remember how much I paid, but I know it wasn't more than $200. Just checked the price and my jaw dropped: $411.99. So much for getting decent prices at Napa.
I found a deal with the 2 pc Platnium 120 tooth 3/8 and 1/4 ratchet for less then 40 from a authorized retailer. Cant wait to try them. Thanks for the vid
Thank you Lou for making this video! As a former technician of fifteen years myself I stayed off the tool truck as much as possible and when I did step foot on one it was to get what I needed and nothing else. I've eaven had some junior technician try to tell me tools from the tool truck are far superior hence the bigger price tag. 🙄
Its always almost always the younger guys. They dont get out and shop nor have the experience yet. I say 5 yrs, give me 5 good years in the automotive world Or service world in general and then your opinions are more valid. Most guys only know the trucks and thats it. most guys never venture out to a harbor freight or sears (R.I.P) or home depot and try their tools. Price is a good thing to watch for but its not or should not be a deciding factor in the long run.
@@MasterTechLou I can agree with you about the Harbor Freight but don't be so quick to knock Husky or Craftsman. I started my tool collection in 1998 and I've only had to replace one ot two of my Huskies. The rest of them are over twenty years old. My grandfather was a diesel mechanic for Santa Fe railroad for more decades then I care to count and a big majority of his tools were Craftsman he bought from Sears. (R.I.P indeed)
@@Modine. who is knocking anything? My drawere is filled with craftsman, that I have been using for majority of my career. only few warrantied 13 and 15mm sockets here and there. also I have husky slim wrenches. love them. I aint knocking anything.
@@MasterTechLou Oh shit! My bad. The first time I read your response, just how you worded it made me think you were saying never venture into a Harbor Freight, Home Depot or Sears and try any of their tools. I see what you were saying now. Sorry. 🤭
Man, im glad i saw this vid. I use the super low profile sockets with a 17mm long handle wrench. It works but for that price its about tine to get a set. Spline drive too, its not like buying just another ratchet wrench that i already have. The sockets and regular wrenchs in spline have come in handy several tines so win win. Thanks!
Great video my Friend! Amazing how much margin is added to name brand merchandise. The little Asian chime was a nice touch when you flipped the wrenches over to show price, LMAO!
Came across your video in the midst of my own research on these. Snap-on is now offering a set, and there's another one called Monster, and another from K Tool... I have set up saved eBay searches to alert me when these get listed.
I have the Monster set that I bought close to 7 years ago and they are still going strong. A few years back I picked up the Mountain 21mm through 24mm mostly for alignments. Even though Monster are no longer in business I still beat the crap out of them and if never warranted any of them. Personally I hate spline. For that reason I have the Matco 8 through 19 mm box / Flex individual wrenches those set me back almost $700! I keep those in my roll cart and the monsters in My Big Box and only break them out when I need the offset for like tensioners what you described as caliper bracket bolts and things of that nature. I am an impact first wrench second flat rater😂
EZ red has that same set too, on a side note if you get them off the tool truck you will have an easier time getting them replaced under warranty from the tool trucks, I haven't been able to get the mountain wrenches warrantied online
Actually I believe EZ Red was first and only ones to sell these until recently, I worked with a guy who had the EZ Red set for like 5 years or something and then maybe 2 years ago he sent one to get a new one and they sent him a Mountain brand. I believe EZ Reds licensing deal with the manufacturers expired and that’s when the manufacturers licensed the wrench to all the brands that currently sell them.
Great video, when you said if you borrowed it 3 times but it, I laughed cause I’ve bought tools on scenarios i made up in my head that might not ever happen lol
They are all made by Kabo in Taiwan. Good luck with the warranty through platinum or mountain, maybe they get back to you maybe they don't and if they do get back to you you then have to spend time packing and driving to pay office and money shipping. For this set i'd suggest getting Carlyle's set from Napa or the Icon Set from HF
Oops ... ADT ( as platinum ) makes a 27 x 30 . Runs about $87 . Just throwing that out there. Service from tool trucks still makes big differences , but not always worth triple the price. For the record I have the carlyle sets , both sae and metric. Price point and potential warranty.
Warranty is easy, I bought my mountain set for like $220 off the MAC truck and its easy to warranty it out. Also got a 21 & 22 Ktool one for like $40 from him.
These are the best xl box wrenches, hands down. Couple extra points if anyone cares 1. There are 72 tooth and 90 tooth 2. Ktool XD also makes em(brands em) 3. I believe the company that makes em is Kabo(taiwan)
These exact wrenches ar at northern under the klutch name i have both standard and metric set. Have used them at our shop for the last 4 years. But you a correct they do work good
lou hi thanks for this video I wish I would have seen this video befor last night I ordered a set last night but only got the sizes I use every day . 17 mm 15 mm 8 and 10 mm
These wrenches are awesome such a shame that even at $190 they are still pricey! If you have a return policy might still be able to get some savings! I found locking ones by ez-red but the length is not the same…. 😔
I bought the ICON set from Harbor Freight. After a few jobs one of the wrences gave me some trouble. Took the set back to harbor Freight and they exchanged for a new 5 wrench set no-questions-asked. So there is that option.
They're good for breaking stuff loose, and for working loose large suspension bolts. When using them for regular work they're way overkill and a hassle to crank back and forth across that huge arc.
Nice review! I ordered the ATD 99650 on Amazon and i will arrive next Tuesday(March 5). "A lot" shipping and tax-costs(coming from outside the EU), but i knew that. When a bolt/nut is very thight, of course is first use a braker bar or wrench. And.."everything" comes from Taiwan but it doesn't mean it's bad quality. Sonic as you know is a Taiwanese brand, good but not cheap. But i do not like the design.
Absolutely fantastic wrenches bough a set her two years ago from the snap on van £350 over 400 dollars did some research looks like they were made by mountain Wrenches not available here in the UK I’m being real careful with them Snap on have replaced a couple under warranty to a colleague of mine but they don’t have the offset he ain’t happy 😢
I'm just a DIYer plus I'm on a fixed income so price & method of purchase was crucial. I'd wanted a set of these for literally years & last month bought the Icon set with my Harbor Freight card & a 25% discount. I've already used them a few times. Just subscribed, love your rules too.
😂 refreshing seeing and hearing a rational breakdown of tools and prices. It is RIDICULOUS when brand fanboys do some crazy mental gymnastics to justify spending thousands on branded tools
I appreciate that. no one sponsors me. atd was kind enough to send me the tools AFTER I contacted them and stated I was going to purchase them from them and feature them on my channel, and compare the prices. hard to defend a 400$ tool that is the exact same as the 150$ . how can I promote the higher prices ???? and still sleep at night.
agree 100% with everything you said. i got my matco set for $190 with a student discount, mountain set is currently $150. spent a little extra so i can tool truck them if they break. i also decided to get the matching 21-22mm for an additional $60 i believe (only fault of these sets is the 19-20mm and not 19-21mm). was going to get the snap on equivalent since they are their own design with a better ratchet mechanism but theyre about $400 even with my discount and they visually look like they have a bigger head.
Great video. Thanks for the research you did and the time it took to create this video. I'm not in the market for these tools, but I know someone will benefit from this info. Take care and thank you for everything.
E Z Red i have 2 sets of them. Set of flex head and set of the locking flex head with the off set. I bought both of ebay used form the same seller for around $112. They have came in handy a few times.
Wow , thanks for the great info. I'm not a mechanic . I'm just enjoying learning all kinds of new things gs that I never had time for when I was young . Who doesn't enjoy nice shiny things? But I research everything , guitars back then , farm equipment, and tools now . And I'm surprised how many times I'll find things like rhis example . Sometimes like you said I just like something or the company has a great idea and I don't mind spending the money . Ain't it great that we can all make those individual choices. God bless yall
Great review. I really appreciate it. I love these wrenches so I've been trying to find a great price for them. This is awesome. You have gained a sub in me for this one.
Glad to help my man. I didnt realize these were so popular, I love them when I have to use them. Definitely glad I ordered a second set from harbor freight. Got lucky and scored a memorial day 25% off so I thought that was worth it. Thanks for subbing. Hopefully you find use with my channel! I am to educate.
I bought the Platinum metric and SAE sets from my local truck parts supplier and can't get them warrantied. I was told that ATD will only warranty a "defective" tool, not a broken tool. The problem is that the ratchet mechanism breaks very easy. I have at least two wrenches that won't ratchet anymore.
I bought a set of these from my Snap-On guy. He sold them from a catalog that he had to order stuff out of, he normally didn't stock them. This was like 15 years ago now, but they were the Mountain brand. I always broke the 13/15mm. He always had to order it to replace it, but he always did. I don't think I paid more than $200 for the set back then.
I have the platinum set and they’ve been fine for home use for last 4 years. I don’t abuse them and they feel the same as when I bought them. I bought them for that box head.
Get a gear wrench 22mm flex head extended ratcheting wrench and pair it with the 1/2 quinn low profile impact sockets and you get a full set of 10-24 6-point all in one wrench. I wish they had a snap ring in there like the astro.
Thats interesting . I wonder if its how he uses them. I prefer to use them for length NOT torque. I think thats a common error. Is thinking that a ratcheting wrench should be used for torque.
You must be one BAMF to physically break a steel wrench with your bear hands. Ive had bolts break and also strip out, slip off. It hurts. No name on a wrench will ever stop that though.
I got lucky with my Matco set. I bought mine used through ebay for a $180. They’ve all been warranted at this point because I use the hell out of them. FYI, Matco has changed or selected a new design to a regular ratchet selector style. Probably because of the old style switches would switch accidentally. I highly recommend every mechanic have this set and the 21/22, 24/25 set
I love eBay for that reason. Also, ATD was kind enough to send me the extended set because they were happy with how the video turned out. And yes this is an awesome set a must have.
Even though they're not the cheapest on the list, I do think that when my time comes to buy this type of ratchet wrench, I will end up with the Icon set. We're about to get a Harbor freight less than 5 mins down the road from where I work should I ever break one. My experience with trying to warranty tools from amazon has been very negative (name brands at that).
Got the ez-red set from about 2010. Pin on one of them is a little loose but 13 years, used the snot out of them. Price has gone up a lot apparently LOL
Great video Lou I wish I have that low profile wrench now I’m doing Turbo cooling lines on M278 driver side where two lines are connected that bolt is Bi#%h to get to plus when you take bolt out you have one more challenge taking lines out of Turbo housing. Hard portion is done just waiting on parts to arrive 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
what we do is loosen motor mounts, jack engine up a bit and pry to the side. I use my super long matco 1/4" with a hazet E10 to break it loose then remove it by hand,.
as for the lines I put a thin pry bar behind the head of the line with gently pressue and rock the line up and down side to side. the rust is the problem.
@@MasterTechLou Damn Lou I didn’t even think about loosening the engine mount I could have done that easily by taking out two bottom bolts out and jack up the engine. You said you use small pry bar how can you reach down with small pry bar it’s almost impossible I took off wheel Took out wheel well plastic front portion Cut heat shield bend it to one side than I used wise grips to wiggle top line off than I used pry bar from top to take out bottom line. I will just bend back heat shield when done. I know it’s not something professional like your self would do but it was best idea at time 🤣🤣 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Just because it's made in the same factory doesn't mean they are the same inside , maybe the heat treat of the parts inside are different , maybe the steel used for the internals is different ? I don't know for sure but this is true in some cases .
I can agree with that to a point. but for the average diy'er that wants a great tool at a great price, they may not see the usage that a pro or full time tech would see. in that event, its trial and error, buy the cheaper and put it to the test and as they fail, upgrade.
I tried looking up mountain tools and ATD so if I ever had to warranty one of the tools I could contact them. I couldn't find any information for them online. I tried clicking on your Amazon or Walmart links and ATD tools doesn't sell it directly. The tools are being sold through a reseller. I tried reaching out to them and they advised me to warranty the tools to contact the seller directly. I have heard that these tools can potentially break if you put too much torque on them
All tools can break with too much torque. This are not meant for torque they are meant for length. Atd does not sell directly you do have to find a seller. Thats the only tricky part.
@@majorahole it has to go through the seller. Thats the only downside. So try and find one thats been in the business. Their distribution network is on their website.
Lou thanks for this. I was literally looking at the Icon ones the other day and just could not justfiy these. I only wish they had a shallower head overall but they will work in tight spaces better than most any wrench. The only thing I found on par is some old Craftsman Skinny wrenches in SAE but they are old old, like from the 70's and not ratcheting. I never saw the point of them and they were in my dad's tool box, but then one day I got into a situation where I had to take a torque converter off a LS motor I could not spin over due to rust. Those things came in clutch and I could not believe they got the job done. Needless to say they are now in my toolbox, lol. I have been scouring the internet trying to find a metric set and these are the closest I have seen
don't forget the 20% off coupon, that may help. I haven't been in one since they stopped the general coupons so they keep sending me 20/25 off coupons. It's not a bad deal with that pricing
I bought some of those off the matco guy and he warranty when I break them all the time. He finally swapped it with a matco brand 1 and I haven't broke it yet.
I agree. Im not scholar but I was taught the price was equal to what it takes to produce the item, overhead, package and ship. Plus the percentage of profit based on units sold as in qty 1 is higher price than qty of 10 units. So how can a tool truck that doesnt produce its own products come up with a price 300% markup higher , my only answer is because people are payin it. And these are in demand. My toolbox is filled with craftsman. Use the right tool for the right job and almost any brand will last you forever.
dang those double box end ratcheting look pretty sweet, gonna have to save up already spent my tool budget this month! Well dang, those platinum I found in metric set onsale for 140, thats a heck of a steal. "National Tool Warehouse" if anyone else is looking, was 22 cheaper than amazon even with tax.
I am seeing this type video more lately. I am not a tool junkie but the next time I want something I will try to look for equivalent alternatives at a lower price point.
I dont do these videos myself often,in fact this is the first one comparing prices rather then tools since its the same tool for the most part. its more so to make people aware and dont immediately pull the trigger on something, take some time, do some research. never know what you will find!
ATD says contact point of sale for warranty . Point of sale gives a 30 day warranty. So the tool truck is more expensive but will warranty the wrench for life. I did buy the Platinum Set I just hope they don’t break.
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So I counted the tooth clicks on my matco vs cornwell and cornwell is advertised as 120 but its only has 90. unless they updated it. My Platinum is 72 teeth, the matco and cornwell are 90 . Icon are ordered as well. I will compare mountain and icon tooth clicks as well.
Exactly what I got and researched
Icon is 90 tooth as well i have them and they are great 👌🏽
Interested to see what you came up with. Mountain vs Icon.
@@Justin-hz8bh Just got my Icon friday, shipping took 10 days, not the 5-7 harbor freight says. they are identical. same tooth (90).
you are toxic
Icon set costs $225, and with 25% off Memorial Day sale, final cost is $169
This is exactly what I was going to post. Not a bad deal if you are close to a Harbor Freight.
Just got that deal too, got tired of borrowing my coworkers 😂
Same here absolute deal compared to matco and Cornwell
Tekton is on sale for 130 about 150 after tax
@@spidersenior Tekton is good, but not the same. They’re 6 point and don’t have the offset, unless they started making it.
I was able to snag the Icon versions for $135 during an Icon wrench 40% off sale. It's hard to beat that price and the easy no questions asked Icon lifetime warranty.
I’ve been wanting a set of those wrenches. So after coming across your channel I went to the Walmart site and found them for the $154.30 price. A Big Thank You!🍻
Just went to check order details from when I bought the full set on Amazon:
$149 about a year and a half ago. Love this set of wrenches!
Appreciate a pro who laus it out without bias
I was looking for wrenches like these and stumbled into your video. Thanks for the fantastic info. You got a new subscriber. 👍
I must have a set of those wrenches! Thanks for the video.
As to the price variations, I am no longer turning my nose up at Harbor Freight. They have stepped up their game with a better line of tools to compliment their "cheapest thing you can buy" lines.
Same here. I've been impressed with icon. Don't really like the ratchet handle feel compared to snap on, but they're holding up to dealer shop life
I have shop at harborfreight ever since they open shop in my city. They were the go to tools that you can hammer and not care about because it was cheap.
I have some of their icon products. Namely their $60 octagon lights. I’d put them up against strap-on any day if the week. Can’t say the same for the rest of the line, that’s just my own experience so far.
Unfortunately HF and their ICON brand has alot of fake within that line. I just watched a video with the Icon ratchet being the exact same 20.00 Amazon ratchet. He took both apart and they are literally identical. Even the PART NUMBER is the same. The only difference was the Icon name on one of them.
@@randysmith9636 icon not the only one doing that. Little harder to warranty through Amazon / whatever seller
Totally agree, i went with the Icon for ease of swapping out incase one them breaks. 2 years so far and no issues though, best damn wrenches by far
Your contribution is very great, thank you very much friend
I had a set of gear wrench branded wrenches like these and they saved me so many times and made me a bunch of money but for a set of like 6-7 it was 300 bucks but they didn’t have the extended part it was flush , love them and recommend them to anyone in the industry they give you leverage and tight spaces.
Thank you, this is what people should be doing with social media.
Lou is speaking facts. The bit about the work you need to do in order to pay off the tool is so smart. The name on the tool does not mean it will always do a better job
People often think the the higher price means its a better product. Not always the case.
@@MasterTechLou For sure. Admittedly there are some tool truck products that are better (scan tools, etc) but for stuff like wrenches, the higher cost does not equal a better tool. Thanks for putting out a video explaining something I think about whenever I need tools lol
@@quiteaskew279 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
I used atd trolls before, there good
Finally a real review on these ratchets! Thank u , im currently intrigued on these ratchets...ok ima buy them🤣
ICON for the win. Replacement same day, no calls, no emails, no mailing, no wait, no hassle. $170 w/coupon.
no SAE sizes...
Who uses SAE anymore? It's a crappy system that's been inaccurate since its introduction.
@@brianriggin4560 Many aircraft, tractors, heavy equipment, construction and electrical use SAE still. I find modified vehicles with SAE HW on them from time to time as well, and that 3/8 comes in handy often when that 10mm is rounded :)
@johnlagreca6288 It was more of a facetious question. I know it's still around. I mean, the entire rest of the world uses metric, except the old American curmudgeon guy. And since the US doesn't manufacture anything original, we outsource production jobs and materials from the rest of the world. It's an outdated system of measure that just complicates everything.
Thanks for sharing this info with us. As a result of your video I opted for the ICON version strictly on the HF ease of warranty process. I did go ahead and searched on eBay and found them for $130 with free shipping. Just couldn't justify $224.99 original price!
Master Tech Lou.. New subscriber here.. I have been on the fence about these wrenches for a while because of the price. Now I know which set to get. Thanks for sharing this.
Glad to help! I am a very indecisive buyer. In fact even tho I have the platinum ones now, I just ordered the icon due to the 25% off coupon today. So I can do a comparison video in the near future. But to me I am happy to have the 72 teeth as the less teeth the stronger, and I am using these for length not really strength but its good to have it.
@@MasterTechLou Yeah me too. I'm also considering the Icon ones..
I found out about ADT 20yrs ago, got a random socket from a parts store, best socket ever. I always look for them first when I need tools, never had a bad experience.
Same! I have a engine hoist, fold up. Had since 2003, also tool cart similar to harbor freight.
I have needed certain specialty tools over the years and have some really nice ATD pieces and none have ever failed.
Rarely subscribe to channels. Never say why I do. You sir have great commentating skills and a priceless mechanical knowledge. Keep going. If success is your goal on this platform you’ll go far
Thank you I appreciate that ❤️
I got the Carlyle set from Napa years ago. Can't remember how much I paid, but I know it wasn't more than $200. Just checked the price and my jaw dropped: $411.99. So much for getting decent prices at Napa.
NAPA has started pricing like Matco. Ridiculous.
So glad you posted this video, ended up buying these wrenches and several others from ATD, great stuff. Also a company called VIM.
Vim has some good stuff too!
And thank you 🙏
I found a deal with the 2 pc Platnium 120 tooth 3/8 and 1/4 ratchet for less then 40 from a authorized retailer. Cant wait to try them. Thanks for the vid
Thank you Lou for making this video! As a former technician of fifteen years myself I stayed off the tool truck as much as possible and when I did step foot on one it was to get what I needed and nothing else. I've eaven had some junior technician try to tell me tools from the tool truck are far superior hence the bigger price tag. 🙄
Its always almost always the younger guys. They dont get out and shop nor have the experience yet. I say 5 yrs, give me 5 good years in the automotive world Or service world in general and then your opinions are more valid. Most guys only know the trucks and thats it. most guys never venture out to a harbor freight or sears (R.I.P) or home depot and try their tools. Price is a good thing to watch for but its not or should not be a deciding factor in the long run.
@@MasterTechLou I can agree with you about the Harbor Freight but don't be so quick to knock Husky or Craftsman. I started my tool collection in 1998 and I've only had to replace one ot two of my Huskies. The rest of them are over twenty years old. My grandfather was a diesel mechanic for Santa Fe railroad for more decades then I care to count and a big majority of his tools were Craftsman he bought from Sears. (R.I.P indeed)
@@Modine. who is knocking anything? My drawere is filled with craftsman, that I have been using for majority of my career. only few warrantied 13 and 15mm sockets here and there. also I have husky slim wrenches. love them. I aint knocking anything.
@@MasterTechLou Oh shit! My bad. The first time I read your response, just how you worded it made me think you were saying never venture into a Harbor Freight, Home Depot or Sears and try any of their tools. I see what you were saying now. Sorry. 🤭
@@Modine. all good! no worries :)
Man, im glad i saw this vid. I use the super low profile sockets with a 17mm long handle wrench. It works but for that price its about tine to get a set. Spline drive too, its not like buying just another ratchet wrench that i already have. The sockets and regular wrenchs in spline have come in handy several tines so win win. Thanks!
@@Backalleydiagnostics us mechanics love the raised end, and the spline drive does wonders!
Great video my Friend! Amazing how much margin is added to name brand merchandise. The little Asian chime was a nice touch when you flipped the wrenches over to show price, LMAO!
Was thinking of doing price is right or family feud sounds
Came across your video in the midst of my own research on these.
Snap-on is now offering a set, and there's another one called Monster, and another from K Tool...
I have set up saved eBay searches to alert me when these get listed.
Spend the money and get the Icon. well worth it for WHEN they need warranty.
I have the Monster set that I bought close to 7 years ago and they are still going strong. A few years back I picked up the Mountain 21mm through 24mm mostly for alignments. Even though Monster are no longer in business I still beat the crap out of them and if never warranted any of them. Personally I hate spline. For that reason I have the Matco 8 through 19 mm box / Flex individual wrenches those set me back almost $700! I keep those in my roll cart and the monsters in My Big Box and only break them out when I need the offset for like tensioners what you described as caliper bracket bolts and things of that nature. I am an impact first wrench second flat rater😂
I have bought these in the K-Tool brand from my Mac Dealer. I also have the add on set. They have been great.
EZ red has that same set too, on a side note if you get them off the tool truck you will have an easier time getting them replaced under warranty from the tool trucks, I haven't been able to get the mountain wrenches warrantied online
Actually I believe EZ Red was first and only ones to sell these until recently, I worked with a guy who had the EZ Red set for like 5 years or something and then maybe 2 years ago he sent one to get a new one and they sent him a Mountain brand. I believe EZ Reds licensing deal with the manufacturers expired and that’s when the manufacturers licensed the wrench to all the brands that currently sell them.
Currently, National Tool Warehouse has these at $146.20 with free shipping.
They raised it to 154 now
They are now $186.
Purchased the mountain set back In 2016 for 128$. Absolutely love them
Great video, when you said if you borrowed it 3 times but it, I laughed cause I’ve bought tools on scenarios i made up in my head that might not ever happen lol
Yeah I have a few tools that I bought thinking I would need it and never used it….
Just bought the mountain brand on Amazon. $175 after tax. If the icon brand was that cheap I would've chosen them.
It's funny that many claimed they are professionals but they have to buy their tools.
Lucky my daughter & I are on the freelists.
They are all made by Kabo in Taiwan. Good luck with the warranty through platinum or mountain, maybe they get back to you maybe they don't and if they do get back to you you then have to spend time packing and driving to pay office and money shipping. For this set i'd suggest getting Carlyle's set from Napa or the Icon Set from HF
Oops ... ADT ( as platinum ) makes a 27 x 30 . Runs about $87 . Just throwing that out there. Service from tool trucks still makes big differences , but not always worth triple the price. For the record I have the carlyle sets , both sae and metric. Price point and potential warranty.
Have a Platinum 27x30 on my cart right now lol
@@bh10k17 thank you for letting me know about the other branded 27 x 30
@@nickhout827 if that case I am wrong, thank you for letting me know
Warranty is easy, I bought my mountain set for like $220 off the MAC truck and its easy to warranty it out. Also got a 21 & 22 Ktool one for like $40 from him.
These are the best xl box wrenches, hands down. Couple extra points if anyone cares
1. There are 72 tooth and 90 tooth
2. Ktool XD also makes em(brands em)
3. I believe the company that makes em is Kabo(taiwan)
I did find ktool as well! I searched on kabo site but couldnt find these exact ones. Didnt really keep digging tho.
These exact wrenches ar at northern under the klutch name i have both standard and metric set. Have used them at our shop for the last 4 years. But you a correct they do work good
I bought the ICON set then got the platinum XL wrenches up to 32mm. Glad I did because I needed the 24mm yesterday
Im gonna have to get the extra wrenches to complete the set. Definitely use them on the Mercedes suspension bolts.
Interesting , I will wait til I need wrenches that do that ! I do have non swivel ratcheting wrenches ! Thank you for the video !
Thank you for viewing and taking the time to comment!
lou hi thanks for this video I wish I would have seen this video befor last night I ordered a set last night but only got the sizes I use every day . 17 mm 15 mm 8 and 10 mm
These wrenches are awesome such a shame that even at $190 they are still pricey! If you have a return policy might still be able to get some savings! I found locking ones by ez-red but the length is not the same…. 😔
Ktool £125 about 12 months ago. great set saved me lots of times.
I bought the ICON set from Harbor Freight. After a few jobs one of the wrences gave me some trouble. Took the set back to harbor Freight and they exchanged for a new 5 wrench set no-questions-asked. So there is that option.
I have the Klutch version of these. They are awesome!
Got my Carlyle SAE and metric sets for less than $130 a set back when Napa “real deals” actually had deals in them.
How do they go? Just got one set
I bought the mountain set. I don't use them as much as I probably should. They seem to be a pretty good value
They're good for breaking stuff loose, and for working loose large suspension bolts. When using them for regular work they're way overkill and a hassle to crank back and forth across that huge arc.
Nice review! I ordered the ATD 99650 on Amazon and i will arrive next Tuesday(March 5). "A lot" shipping and tax-costs(coming from outside the EU), but i knew that.
When a bolt/nut is very thight, of course is first use a braker bar or wrench.
And.."everything" comes from Taiwan but it doesn't mean it's bad quality. Sonic as you know is a Taiwanese brand, good but not cheap. But i do not like the design.
Absolutely fantastic wrenches bough a set her two years ago from the snap on van £350 over 400 dollars did some research looks like they were made by mountain Wrenches not available here in the UK I’m being real careful with them Snap on have replaced a couple under warranty to a colleague of mine but they don’t have the offset he ain’t happy 😢
Thanks for explaining what to do with money savings 👍😀
I'm just a DIYer plus I'm on a fixed income so price & method of purchase was crucial. I'd wanted a set of these for literally years & last month bought the Icon set with my Harbor Freight card & a 25% discount. I've already used them a few times. Just subscribed, love your rules too.
Welcome and I appreciate you!
Just found your channel brother, awesome work. I will definitely pick these up plus the extra set. Keep up the great work. Thanks
Welcome! Hope my channel can help in some way shape or form!
😂 refreshing seeing and hearing a rational breakdown of tools and prices. It is RIDICULOUS when brand fanboys do some crazy mental gymnastics to justify spending thousands on branded tools
I appreciate that. no one sponsors me. atd was kind enough to send me the tools AFTER I contacted them and stated I was going to purchase them from them and feature them on my channel, and compare the prices. hard to defend a 400$ tool that is the exact same as the 150$ . how can I promote the higher prices ???? and still sleep at night.
agree 100% with everything you said. i got my matco set for $190 with a student discount, mountain set is currently $150. spent a little extra so i can tool truck them if they break. i also decided to get the matching 21-22mm for an additional $60 i believe (only fault of these sets is the 19-20mm and not 19-21mm). was going to get the snap on equivalent since they are their own design with a better ratchet mechanism but theyre about $400 even with my discount and they visually look like they have a bigger head.
Great video. Thanks for the research you did and the time it took to create this video. I'm not in the market for these tools, but I know someone will benefit from this info. Take care and thank you for everything.
Thank you 😊 I appreciate that!
E Z Red i have 2 sets of them. Set of flex head and set of the locking flex head with the off set. I bought both of ebay used form the same seller for around $112. They have came in handy a few times.
Thank you for the info I just ordered a set ❤
Wow , thanks for the great info. I'm not a mechanic . I'm just enjoying learning all kinds of new things gs that I never had time for when I was young . Who doesn't enjoy nice shiny things? But I research everything , guitars back then , farm equipment, and tools now . And I'm surprised how many times I'll find things like rhis example . Sometimes like you said I just like something or the company has a great idea and I don't mind spending the money . Ain't it great that we can all make those individual choices. God bless yall
I got 2 sets of Cornwell on OfferUp,, Metric and SAE both for $250. Work wonderful. I’ve used the Mountain before and they are amazing as well.
Not a bad option, thanks for the info 🤘
Great review. I really appreciate it. I love these wrenches so I've been trying to find a great price for them. This is awesome. You have gained a sub in me for this one.
Glad to help my man. I didnt realize these were so popular, I love them when I have to use them. Definitely glad I ordered a second set from harbor freight. Got lucky and scored a memorial day 25% off so I thought that was worth it. Thanks for subbing. Hopefully you find use with my channel! I am to educate.
Look into the vim tool version of this all it is is the heads of the rachets and you have to use socket extensions to use it
I bought the Platinum metric and SAE sets from my local truck parts supplier and can't get them warrantied. I was told that ATD will only warranty a "defective" tool, not a broken tool. The problem is that the ratchet mechanism breaks very easy. I have at least two wrenches that won't ratchet anymore.
Hmm have you contacted atd directly? Find them on instagram and reach out
@@MasterTechLou i have not. I guess I'll do that and see what they say. I assumed it had to be warrantied by the dealer that i bought it from.
Buy two sets of the cheaper ones for $300 and you don't have to worry about potential warranty delays and still come in under the tool truck price.
I bought a set of these from my Snap-On guy. He sold them from a catalog that he had to order stuff out of, he normally didn't stock them. This was like 15 years ago now, but they were the Mountain brand. I always broke the 13/15mm. He always had to order it to replace it, but he always did. I don't think I paid more than $200 for the set back then.
These thing are great! Thank you!
I have the platinum set and they’ve been fine for home use for last 4 years. I don’t abuse them and they feel the same as when I bought them. I bought them for that box head.
Great analysis!
I use to buy off trucks. Not anymore. There is some very good discount tools these days with lifetime warranty.
Get a gear wrench 22mm flex head extended ratcheting wrench and pair it with the 1/2 quinn low profile impact sockets and you get a full set of 10-24 6-point all in one wrench. I wish they had a snap ring in there like the astro.
I have the matco, Co worker bought the platinum brand they broke every time he used them and would borrow mine.
Thats interesting . I wonder if its how he uses them. I prefer to use them for length NOT torque. I think thats a common error. Is thinking that a ratcheting wrench should be used for torque.
All are made by kabo.
Thanks a mint Lou !!!
Excellent video !!
Ive had a wrench break on me it wasnt pretty and it hurt. Some tools i just dont go cheap.
You must be one BAMF to physically break a steel wrench with your bear hands. Ive had bolts break and also strip out, slip off. It hurts. No name on a wrench will ever stop that though.
GREAT VIDEO..ALL TRUE NO BS
Nice! Thanks for the 411
I got lucky with my Matco set. I bought mine used through ebay for a $180. They’ve all been warranted at this point because I use the hell out of them.
FYI, Matco has changed or selected a new design to a regular ratchet selector style. Probably because of the old style switches would switch accidentally. I highly recommend every mechanic have this set and the 21/22, 24/25 set
I love eBay for that reason. Also, ATD was kind enough to send me the extended set because they were happy with how the video turned out. And yes this is an awesome set a must have.
I have the icon set. Made so much money on them already.
Even though they're not the cheapest on the list, I do think that when my time comes to buy this type of ratchet wrench, I will end up with the Icon set. We're about to get a Harbor freight less than 5 mins down the road from where I work should I ever break one. My experience with trying to warranty tools from amazon has been very negative (name brands at that).
there is a 25% off coupon now, if you wanna order a set online! probably best deal to be had for a while.
@@MasterTechLou I'll have to double check then. Hard to pass up that deal.
Great video and great tools
thanks 🤠 keep up the great tool reviews!!!
Thank you I appreciate that!
Thank you for this information
Got the ez-red set from about 2010. Pin on one of them is a little loose but 13 years, used the snot out of them. Price has gone up a lot apparently LOL
Great video Lou I wish I have that low profile wrench now
I’m doing Turbo cooling lines on M278 driver side where two lines are connected that bolt is Bi#%h to get to plus when you take bolt out you have one more challenge taking lines out of Turbo housing.
Hard portion is done just waiting on parts to arrive 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
what we do is loosen motor mounts, jack engine up a bit and pry to the side. I use my super long matco 1/4" with a hazet E10 to break it loose then remove it by hand,.
as for the lines I put a thin pry bar behind the head of the line with gently pressue and rock the line up and down side to side. the rust is the problem.
@@MasterTechLou Damn Lou I didn’t even think about loosening the engine mount I could have done that easily by taking out two bottom bolts out and jack up the engine.
You said you use small pry bar how can you reach down with small pry bar it’s almost impossible I took off wheel
Took out wheel well plastic front portion
Cut heat shield bend it to one side than I used wise grips to wiggle top line off than I used pry bar from top to take out bottom line.
I will just bend back heat shield when done.
I know it’s not something professional like your self would do but it was best idea at time 🤣🤣
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Brilliant video ,thanks mate! 😎👍
Great Video!! thanks for sharing,
K-tool International has the exact same wrench set but they also go all the way up to 30mm
Just because it's made in the same factory doesn't mean they are the same inside , maybe the heat treat of the parts inside are different , maybe the steel used for the internals is different ? I don't know for sure but this is true in some cases .
I can agree with that to a point. but for the average diy'er that wants a great tool at a great price, they may not see the usage that a pro or full time tech would see. in that event, its trial and error, buy the cheaper and put it to the test and as they fail, upgrade.
I tried looking up mountain tools and ATD so if I ever had to warranty one of the tools I could contact them. I couldn't find any information for them online. I tried clicking on your Amazon or Walmart links and ATD tools doesn't sell it directly. The tools are being sold through a reseller. I tried reaching out to them and they advised me to warranty the tools to contact the seller directly. I have heard that these tools can potentially break if you put too much torque on them
All tools can break with too much torque. This are not meant for torque they are meant for length. Atd does not sell directly you do have to find a seller. Thats the only tricky part.
@@MasterTechLou right. But if it does break how do you warranty the tool to ATD?
@@majorahole it has to go through the seller. Thats the only downside.
So try and find one thats been in the business. Their distribution network is on their website.
Lou thanks for this. I was literally looking at the Icon ones the other day and just could not justfiy these. I only wish they had a shallower head overall but they will work in tight spaces better than most any wrench. The only thing I found on par is some old Craftsman Skinny wrenches in SAE but they are old old, like from the 70's and not ratcheting. I never saw the point of them and they were in my dad's tool box, but then one day I got into a situation where I had to take a torque converter off a LS motor I could not spin over due to rust. Those things came in clutch and I could not believe they got the job done. Needless to say they are now in my toolbox, lol. I have been scouring the internet trying to find a metric set and these are the closest I have seen
don't forget the 20% off coupon, that may help. I haven't been in one since they stopped the general coupons so they keep sending me 20/25 off coupons. It's not a bad deal with that pricing
Tekton is having a sale on their set makes it 130 about 150 after tax great deal
Didn’t know they offered these I’ll have to check them out! Thanks!
They don't sell the same wrench. They do not have the extended lip on them which is what really makes these so usable.
@@shopdoc I didn’t say they were the same
@@spidersenior I didn’t say that you did, but the response by MasterTechLou inferred that he believed them to be the same.
Excellent content 👌 👏 👍
I bought some of those off the matco guy and he warranty when I break them all the time. He finally swapped it with a matco brand 1 and I haven't broke it yet.
So it looks higher quality so far? Or just not stuck enough hard bolts 😄😄
I got the set for 102 out the door from the NAPA brand Carlyle on the monthly promotion like half a year ago
Thats a killer price!
LOve it! i been wanting to get a set of these. the rpice from snapon or matco was astounding
Yeah I was shocked to find cornwell being so high, you can also find mountain wrenches for 670$!!!
It's crazy what some of these tool companies are charging especially Snap-on or matco
I agree. Im not scholar but I was taught the price was equal to what it takes to produce the item, overhead, package and ship. Plus the percentage of profit based on units sold as in qty 1 is higher price than qty of 10 units. So how can a tool truck that doesnt produce its own products come up with a price 300% markup higher , my only answer is because people are payin it. And these are in demand. My toolbox is filled with craftsman. Use the right tool for the right job and almost any brand will last you forever.
dang those double box end ratcheting look pretty sweet, gonna have to save up already spent my tool budget this month! Well dang, those platinum I found in metric set onsale for 140, thats a heck of a steal. "National Tool Warehouse" if anyone else is looking, was 22 cheaper than amazon even with tax.
I am seeing this type video more lately. I am not a tool junkie but the next time I want something I will try to look for equivalent alternatives at a lower price point.
I dont do these videos myself often,in fact this is the first one comparing prices rather then tools since its the same tool for the most part. its more so to make people aware and dont immediately pull the trigger on something, take some time, do some research. never know what you will find!
Awesome video thank you
ATD says contact point of sale for warranty . Point of sale gives a 30 day warranty. So the tool truck is more expensive but will warranty the wrench for life. I did buy the Platinum Set I just hope they don’t break.
Carlyle also has their own, not sure about the tooth count if they’re really made differently but it does seem they are all pretty much the same