Now Snap-On Copied Harbor Freight? A better ratcheting wrench?
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Snap-On's latest flex head ratcheting double box end set looks suspiciously like Harbor Freight ICON's Extra Long Professional Double Box Flex Ratcheting Wrenches and it's no fluke, brands tool trucks included have been buying this sort of design for years all from the same factory, so Snap-On decided to make their own. Is it better? Can it justify its ungodly price?
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TTC is becoming a weekly 'Friday morning with my coffee' ritual.
Appreciate it! It's why we post in the morning, so you guys can watch it whenever you want throughout the day.
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"what new tool am I going to want to buy on this bright Friday morning?"
@@TorqueTestChannel If you have a good idea, it's quite common to be told you're crazy in spite of compelling evidence to the contrary. 😉
@@TorqueTestChannel I almost always watch on Friday. I rarely let it slip to another day. I don't even use these type of tools often, I just like testing things, measuring them, and writing it down.
I did not imagine these traditionally delicate wrenches had become so tough. I guess I can stop babying my Gear Wrench ones now. 😊
Butts were puckered around the set-up well before these broke. Things have definitely changed in the last 10-15 years!
160 PER WRENCH? Snapon is smoking actual crack.
With these you do get top notch performance though
@@CranAlleydoesn't matter, they're not worth $160. You're paying for the name.
That's why they gotta charge so much. Rock ain't cheap.
@damienirvin777 You're paying for lifetime warranty, the tool truck visiting YOU, USA made (supporting American workers), and the best overall wrench available on the market.
@@CranAlleyI'll stick with my mountain
i wish pushy would display his findings on a graph like his torque absorbing big brother
It would just be a straight line ramping up until the wrench broke.
Impact wrenches on the torque absorber are putting out variable torques as they ramp up to their max, pushy is outputting consistent torque until failure.
I don't know. I've broken a few wrenches, but that backdrag factor should weigh more heavily on the overall score. That means more tools or my other hand to hold the bolt to keep it from turning. I'd say that alone would justify the extra cost of the Snap-On if only I had that kind of money.
Thanks, we'll discuss here about its weighting.
Out of the box comparisons are great apples to apples. I have seen many say the grease or lube in the Icon are lacking and once changed/or added in some cases it's back drag is much better! This is one of the few channels I would trust to test that. Icon out of the box vs Icon post servicing!
Reallly keeping Harbon Freight on their toes.
Really waking up all techs to the Snap-On "better steel" sales pitch, because everyone loves to have the privilege to blow $800 to take their wrench to 366Nm.
HF doesn't have anything to do with it. They get it from KABO.
Also $800 set not really making HF shudder.
@@reubensandwich9249 HF sets the price though.
The real champion here is TTC 🥳 Thank you for another great video that puts out raw information for us to chew on.
The only snap on tools I have came in a tool box of tools I bought at an auction. Not to everyone... Don't drink and go to an auction... All I wanted was the Kennedy Tool box. I was going to dump the tool... Went through the box found 6 Snap-on wrenches. No 10mm... today they just hang on the wall.. like a 12 point rack
I bought mine under the platinum name, less expensive then anyone's. Another great video guys!!!!!
Yup, the Platinum, Platinum Tech (XL and XXL) are also made by ATD.
I ponnied up an bought the Snap-On. Right off the truck the first nut I tried to remove it broke! The truck owner, and corporate would not refund for diss-satifation. I was so disappointed. I bought the Icon for less than $200 on sale. Icon got the job done, and still going strong a year later. Stoked to watch this!
As a Snap-on owner for many years, one must remember that the Snap-on truck comes to you at your shop
or place of business and shows you new tools or swaps out broken ones you have damaged.
The business practice is also part of their big price for tools
Unless they don't swap out your tools, maybe you bought them from a different truck guy and he doesn't want to warranty yours. My dad had a LOT of trouble with this, because he bought his snap on tools through his fortune 500 workplace.
Exactly
Yeah if the tool truck came monday morning and you broke a tool monday afternoon, you dont have a tool for a week when that truck comes back around. With my icon i can go out that night after work and pick one up. And with the $355 i saved pit it towards a nice dinner. Shit with all the money saved from buying icon over snap on i can literally buy a brand new car.
Wow, you know it did cost me $500 to drive to harbor freight the other day with my Osprey and the cost of jet fuel. Maybe Snap on is worth it for the service!
@@BigInjun05 I've never had a Snap-on franchisee that wasn't willing to make a trip to me on an off day. Try again.
Snap-On is just the Apple of tools
Except you can repair their products and they don't become obsolete after a few years
Says the poor person that can’t afford them
@@nordicpride9708 we calling people poor for not buying 80 dollar wrenches now? Thats food for a week
@@Delalcon $800 for the reversible set of 5 wrenches.
@@nordicpride9708 How do you know he is poor? I stuff the money I save buying Harbor Freight instead of Snap on in the S&P 500 and pull 10% returns.
Oh Snap-On... If only you didn't exist somewhere out there well beyond my personal threshold of diminishing returns. $800 for that set is legit insane. (And yes, that implies that the crazy is on both sides of the offerer/purchaser arrangement).
Considering Icon regularly has 25-30% sales on their tools. $157 for their set sounds like the best deal to me. Especially with their lifetime super easy to use warranty. I just wish it wasn't a skip set...
Agreed on all points
You need a negative points column for price like you have for the impacts, thr Snapons might be better, but if you can buy a complete set for what one wrench costs (your k tools example vs snapon) then that has to figure into most folks buying decision.
A separate "value" column would be nice.
I'm a pro, and I have had a set of Snap On ratcheting wrenches for ~15 years (flex head open/ratchet, not double), and I have never broken one. None have ever needed serviced.
down-time costs us money, so we pay a lot to avoid it. I have used them in situations I was sure would destroy them, and they have survived, unscathed. I paid a lot, but they have been worth every cent!
Come from a family of auto mechanics working in both their own shops or in dealerships, just don't buy the cheapest tools your and are fine. Unless you are making $800 and hr and going to get a tool you don't have a backup for or an alternate means then maybe it is too costly. This is why for some of the specialty tools the Snap-On is worth the price, but for a standard box end set, you are wasting your money.
I’m one of the weird guys who has examples of all three brands. My Snap-On wrenches are pretty old, but still really good. I use the Gearwrench 7/16” ratcheting wrench for truck slack adjusters, and I really like it. Finally, I bought the ICON when they had a sale. I’m really pleased with those. Ratcheting wrenches have come a long way over my career, and it’s good to see that there are several good options.
You're not weird. I am in the same boat. I bought S-O for over 30 years, with some MAC and Matco mixed in (usually oversized wrenches by those brands). About 5 years ago, I fired my S-O tool truck guy. He started showing up less often, and rarely had my replacement parts even though I had requested them on multiple visits. It started to feel like he only cared about making money (I know, that is important) and less about servicing the customer now that I had a very complete collection of tools and wasn't buying as many. In a moment of frustration, I bought some ICON tools, and had the guys in the shop try them. They all thought they were as nice in the hand, and as functional, as the S-O tools, and they started buying them for themselves. Make no mistake, there is a sense of refinement with S-O tools, but because the ICONs are basically copies, I can't tell the difference when in use. My mistake was buying a very comprehensive set of Gearwrench tools for my sons. They are good-ish, just not great. The biggest issue is the chamfer on the sockets and box ends of the wrenches. It is too pronounced and too often allows them to cam off a fastener, rounding it or burring it. It might sound petty, but a small feature like this is enough to make me refuse to use them.
Bro that ain’t weird picking things that are appropriate for your situation. It’s weird when there are better options in a supposed free market but people pay for the name in some instances .
@@matthewpeterson3329not petty if it's mangling your fasteners
Nice video. Please do the Dura tech next and the Astro nano ratchets too. In 3/8 and 1/4.. 😊
ratchet wrenches aren't really used for nut busting torque...usually you loosen the nut then finish it off with the ratchet wrench...I get the test shows extreme situations but generally speaking, the I con and Gear Wrench will do the trick 98% of the time...the snap on will get the other 2%....for 800 bucks???, not sold on that unless you like giving the tool guy money every week, which they LOVE
If it is really stuck on a sharp rap with a hammer may be needed and there is no way I want to do that on a ratcheting set.
I've had Mountain wrenches break. Trying to get them replaced under warranty was like pulling teeth.
I've had Icon wrenches break too. Still having to run to the store is inconvenient.
If those Snap On wrenches are stronger that might mean the job will get done _that day_ rather than after _running to harbor freight_ or _in a few weeks_ trying to warranty the Mountain wrenches.
Yep. I really like my Mountain wrenches, but I know 100% that they aren't very heavy duty.
Or you take the $600 you saved and invest in and in the odd chance you break a wrench that $600+ covers your inconvenience.
The only reason I buy anything from Snap-On is because they are American made. I don't particularly care to send so much money to China or Taiwan when I can keep it here.
“As much as it’s a fidget spinner now” 😂😂😂
"Pushy just pushes, and we point cameras" should be some merch. Metal posters, magnets for tool boxes, hoodies etc.
Every time pushy appears I yell "PUSHY!!!"
I break the tool. Drive to store 10 minutes. Replace tool. Advantage for Icon in my book.
Can't usually leave work unless it's your lunch time in my experience, but the weekend access is nice which tool trucks cant touch.
@@TorqueTestChannel true. Tool trucks don't show up every day though. At least not ours.
facts i drive by harbor on the way to work and to home it's only 5 minutes from my work so it's a win win
I thought Mountain was the original and they sold under EZ-RED name. Appreciate the history explanation.
Here's some additional tid-bits. Mountain is a tool line by ISN or Integrated Supply Network. A massive tool warehouse in the USA that sells to a lot of tool retailers. They used to have a somewhat extensive line in Mountain, then developed Monster tools and Mountain got left behind except for these wrenches which always sold well. Monster tools got sued into oblivion by Monster energy drinks because they used a similar color and sort of font like idiots, so only a few tools like these remain from their old line left. Their most recent line is K-Tool also discussed here, same set.
I have some of EZRED's 1/4 drive flex head ratchet wrenches. So so dang handy.
@@operator8014Pretty sweet indeed
Snap-on - "very impressive!"
I bought the same snap on 13/15 as it is the most used sizes for me mainly working on GM and it is well worth the money. Dealer offered the entire set for $675 and dang near went for it.
But its only really worth the extra money in the smaller sixes as shown. The larger sizes don't matter as much and is why i still have my 120xp gearwrench set.
With the student excellence program the non-reversable metric 5 piece set is $301
I'd buy that
@TorqueTestChannel love your channel, I only trust you guys and project farm for testing tools
Thanks for this video. I know a few of us haven’t pushed these wrenches as hard as we would have liked to, but these results are impressive.
I've warrantied single wrenches from Icon (only broke one in several years, was a 10mm that I was putting way too much torque one) without any issue. They just pull the set off the shelf and set it on the discount rack.
Holy cow! Seekonk Manufacturing!
At the end of the day, nobody beats Pushy. NOBODY! Thanks for another great video. Cheers! 😎👍🔧🛠
I got a whole set of those wrenches for 160$ off the Mac Tools truck and they are worth it. I think the brand is Platinum and they have taken so much abuse but are still kicking.
Have both, bump the Icon selector the other way a lot!
I'd looked at that set on the shelf a few times already and that was my concern. Are you bumping it often enough to where it's worth the snap-on premium and wait?
@@zrobotics$800? Don't think it's possible to be worth that much.
@@zroboticsI use mine every day for 3 years... I don't bump it very often at all
Watch the episodes at Lunch every Friday. Tekton Makes a Taiwanese set with no skips! Would love to see it tested.
The moment I bought the Icons I was thrilled but also disappointed in the back-drag. My 19mm in particular is useless one handed. Could stir a loaded washing machine back and forth with it.
I have the matco extra long double box end. The 18mm is my most used and I have broken it 4 times in the past 2 years
If you can test it, I would like to see how the Astro Tool 783105 and 78318 nano socket wrenches compares with other wrenches.
I have sets of TEKTON GearWrench and Carlisle of these style . Only Carlisle is switchable and sometime these change direction but these are life savers many times so the switch doesn’t bother me. I didn’t pay Snap On price for all three sets total not even talking about the switchable set which is even crazy for a daily mechanic for living like me person. Never broke any of the ones I have after a number of years of use.
Need to include the matco updated version with recessed reversing lever...beefier then the original kabo version
Need to really be drinking the snap on cool aid to buy those... I'll stick with my mountain wrenches
Your Mountain wrenches are the EXACT wrenches as the ICON (Kabo).
@@nordicpride9708 But for less money, so
Great work! Can we have the ratcheting wrench test next?
Love to see you run this test against the Japanese brands like Tone and KTC. They’re stellar versions of this type of wrench
Great video as always! When can we expect this data to show up on the rank chart? I have noticed some things missing from it such as the aircat air hammer and all the air ratchets. While I can of course just watch the video again, which I have, it would be nice to be able to look at them in the chart. Thanks!
Good catch on the aircat, just fixed that! The new page is being built out, takes a bit longer with the new format. We're getting the hang of it though
Okay, it's live now
I think all of these are good enough for professional use. If I get that Icon set, I will use my drill or impact driver to spin the shit out of them to break them in so there is less resistance.
The manager of your Harbor Freight is not supposed to be doing that with returns. What they normally do is replace the piece that broke and then put the partial set on a shelf at a sale price.
Baffling why anyone still buys Snap-off. The prices are laughably absurd.
There’s tons of funny out there that love to show off “ it’s snap on”. 😂
I buy some of their stuff but the prices on sets like this are asinine. I let them know they don't care.
Some of us prefer quality over chinesium garbage. Don't get me wrong, I am far from a "Snap-On fanboi". Most of my tools are old school Craftsman, SK, Armstrong, Lang, Proto, Wright, etc, but most of those other companies have "dried up" when it comes to quality Made in USA tools; leaving Snap-On with little competition in that regard.
@@puterg0d Kind of why I find myself with some Snap-On. I try to get SK or Proto as they are made in USA mostly but sometimes Snap-On is close enough in price or has a special tool that is worth it.
@@NONO-hz4vo SK isn't anymore. You can still find some NOS SK tools, and I've even bought some myself recently, due to the quality for the price, but you can kiss that warranty goodbye unless you're OK with having your Made in USA SK replaced with a Made in China SK (I'm not - I'll throw it in the trash if it breaks and by a Wright or Snap-On). I do have a decent amount of SK tools before they got bought out, but again, I now look at them as "disposal" IF they ever break (which is not likely, as they are very good quality tools) since any replacement would be a lesser chinesium tool that I don't want.
Home Depot GW, Nice! GW for me! Take a photo, fill out form, new tool ships free.
I can't stand high back drag or the damn switch randomly changing direction!
You submit these for warranty? That seems to fly in the face of the _spirit_ of the warranty if not the letter.
We don't submit THESE from testing for warranty unless it's for info in the video about the process. We still have these broken. We do warranty our own tools though that we break doing just as stupid stuff by hand using them.
@@TorqueTestChannel OK. That seems very reasonable.
I've got a couple of this type of wrench, made by Vim, and not cheap, I like them but require narrower heads than those Gearwrench, to work on my small British cars
the icons were like 160 when they first came out now they're over 200😮
Yeah that's way too much. The same thing for $152 on Amazon under Mountain brand.
Two suggestions: could you test the Tekton version of these? Also, how about testing the Astro 78318 with the nano sockets against these wrenches? They're a little different, but it would be somewhat comparable. Thanks for your testing!
I think its interesting with everyone griping about the price. But snap on has a hard time keeping these in stock?
There's one born every minute....
Made in the US these days doesn't usually come with it a massive production rate, it could be they are just selling 500 a month and that's capacity (confession: i have no clue)
Perfect wrench for removing the engine mount on a 2.4 ecotec malibu when replacing the timing chain.
Wait... so HF icon, mountain and all others with the side switch are all just made by one manufacture? So you should just get the one who's cheapest?
Correct, depending on how much ease of warranty factors for you
Yes. Absolutely yes.
I have some, they will go to my son because I am buying the Snap-On set after seeing this video. The $800 is still hard to swallow, but after seeing this, and the rest of the details (better design, Made in USA, what others are successfully selling the chinesum ones for, etc), it's a little bit easier to swallow, especially with a cold beer to wash it down...
I’d like to see what the back drag measurements are for each wrench after the ends sat in a jar of transmission fluid for a few hours and/or get the fluid worked in by ratcheting them while submerged.
We thought about different methods, but just like the rest of the tools we test - the out of the box experience is what most people will daily drive.
@@TorqueTestChannel oh i get testing as is, I’m just suggesting testing the backdrag again after some lube and see if it makes a difference. The one you took apart looked lubed quite well. That said, a lot of ratchets I’ve bought, i take apart brand new, and they have almost no lube inside. I think they do that so the clicks sounds louder.
I have a tiny little icon ratchet that holds quarter inch screwdriver bits. The ratcheting mechanism was really stiff so I put a quarter inch bit in it and hooked my impact driver up to it. I spun it really fast in each direction several times. That broke it in rapidly and made it work a lot better. I basically put many years of wear on the ratchet in a couple of minutes. The tool has a lifetime warranty and it works great now.
Let see that TEKTON double ratcheting box end wrenches, the new AND old version
4:07 could be sampled for use as a snare drum.
Tekton, craftsman v series and duratech need to be tested next. Also the orion motor tech set, super affordable at 55$
I kind of thought the Snap-On was going to break at the hinge. That is an impressive difference.
Looks like I need to pick up a gearwrench or icon set. 😂
you should add price weighting like you do on the impact rankings! take total beans survived divided by price and times it by 10 or something
and "beans survived" really feels like the right name for the units here lol
We've always ranked hand tools and other lifetime stuff just on performance, some of my tools are 3rd generation. Power tools are like 3rd... year before replacing
Love to see Tekton in a future video (not sure if these are made by Koba). I have them and I’m happy with them, though they don’t have the quick reverse switch and they are 12 point.
They were discontinued when we bought these, I do see a new set though
Impressive, but $800... 🤯
I'll just buy 3 or 4 sets of the ICON for that!
"thats a lot of kool-aid!" lol, I have the Icon set and well used, you don't know you need this tool until you own a set. Like the Gearwrench set for comparison
The Snap-ons did GREAT. Too bad they're so expensive.
Great episode! Very useful comparison of these. Thank you.
Those Snap-On wrenches performed extremely well. But for those of us that can't afford them, the Mountain version was $129 when I bought it pre Biden. They are $152 currently. Much cheaper than those overpriced Icons.
The ICON, Cornwell, Matco, etc. just like a dozen others are made by ATD. The Snap-on is a proprietary design of its own, made by Snap-on.
ATD doesn't make anything, they are a house brand of Medco tool warehouses. KABO taiwan makes all of these
Is it possible to maintenance / repair the Gearwrench and ICON wrenches? Or are they non-serviceable?
I started looking for a set of flex head ratcheting "offset" wrenches after watching the open end wrench video. Finding wrenches with the offset feature wasn't easy. Very informative video, saved me weeks of frivolous searching and research. Great to these super versatile wrenches tested. Hopefully viewers can suggest 3 more worthy brands for testing.
Man, that back Force pressure was absurd.
I'd rather have them fail a little bit prior, but have a bfp closer to gearwrench.
Would love to see Tekton compared to the rest. I've noticed you use there sockets on impact testing sometimes.
I believe Tekton discontinued their set, would have bought them Edit: i do see a new set though now
It's amazing that people willingly delude themselves into paying snap off prices
I'm curious if the backdrag is improved by keeping the mechanism soaked in mineral oil when stored.
I bought the icon ones a year or so ago but i never use them. As stated in the video, the reversing switch is too sensitive and easy to bump. The other reason being that up in the salt belt the spline drive is always getting stuck on fasteners and the flex makes it difficult to unstick.
As a millionaire mechanic...😁
Simply invest in Snap~On stock... Currently at $293 a share... Up from $156 in 2019 an 85% ROI and Snap~On buys their own your tools for you...
Ah capitalism... Gotta love it...🇺🇸
Great vid as usual...👍💯
If I remember correctly, SK-Tools made these in the early 2000's ??
they only warranty the whole set: "Okay guys, I'll just bnreak the others too then" lol
In metric spanners NEVER ever buy sets! About 60% of them you will hardly ever use! This is in stark contrast with AF and Ww sizes. Having been into British motorcycles for about 30 years, I came to respect the non-metric spanners and their spacings: ALL sizes could be applied.
For metric go for 10 & 13, 17 & 19 and 7 & 8. Hard to find, but a brand like Proxxon will cater for such items. I always went for ring/open ended spanners.
My experience with ratcheting spanners is from more then a decade ago and very, very short lived, minutes rather then hours.
My Brand of choice was Stahlwille for AF and Gedore for Ww.
My first set of sockets, Ratchet, T-bar extension and 10 - 24mm sockets is from ETC, which I bought in 1971. The Ratchet is the only part that is missing due to having failed.
Depends on what you work on. Won't even touch a metric set of anything without a 18mm in it.
My metric bikes need 7,8,10,12,13,14, 15, 17, and 22. No regrets over the Wright tool combination wrench set, although I had to grind down some misc wrenches for clearance. If Honda and Yamaha could state the wrenches and sockets they designed engines around that'd be appreciated
@@snoozzzer Honda, from my decades old experience, applied 'metric' brake hose lines: M10 x 1.125. Suzuki, I think it was, used M11 x 1.???. Being from Europe: so much for metric...
ive found the 80 tooth ratchet mechanism to be really robust in the thin ratchet snap on makes. if i cant get it with that i need 1/2" or bigger.
Snap-on was impressive. That's not always the case
I would like to see a more real-world usage case with pushy as well - do some tests with 12.9 fasteners with actual heads of the usual sort of hardness rather than a surplus of ultra-hard tool steel. Which one works better on those godawful thin profile nissan cheese grade bolts?
These were all tested on mild steel hex equivalent to Grade 5 / Metric 8.8. Box ends just don't play around
Would like to see these in 10mm and 12mm. Very common sizes. Thanks
What about Tekton?
Their set was discontinued when we bought these for testing
Would be interesting to know if they warranty your tools after your testing, or if they at least can offer up spare parts to fix it for cheap.
Ours will stay broken, because it would be dishonest to ask the Snap-On guy for a new. But have no doubt our dealer would.
Very interesting. Been happy with my Mountains for a while now, and paying for the whole set what 1 Snappy costs. Legit improvements by Snap-on though, and if I were wrenching professionally...naw, I'd still keep the Mountains.
I'm an IT guy and I'm giving my mountains to my son and buying the Snappy's. I buy USA when I can, I use USA tools "exclusively" when I can, and while the price is high, this video has made it easier to swallow.
Matco no longer sells those exact wrenches, they did for years, but they now have a new design. As far as who makes them idk. Anyone here know?
I really like this design but unfortunately these types of wrenches are not available in our market ( buying them in the US are going to be very expensive because of the delivery charges). I bought Chinese alternative which doesn't have sticking offset part and the head is not locking. This is definitely worse alternative but it is what it is.
the only thing i ever have with my icon some times you hit the button on the side in a tight spot loosing or tighing a bolt
Price is high bc warranty is front loaded.
One thing to note, you also have repairable vs non-repairable wrenches.
Non issue when they all have lifetime warranties. As long as they replace the tool it absolutely doesn't matter how it's repairable or not to most consumers
@@greasemonkeymechanic1 it absolutely does matter... The icons are non serviceable and you have to return the whole set when you warranty them. That's just hilariously wasteful. It's not like harbor freight is picking out the good wrenches, refurbishing them (wait they can't bc they're non serviceable), replacing the broken one and then re selling the set. Y'all would be mad if they did too.
But with the snap on. I can call my dealer and he can stop by with a baggie of parts and I can fix the 1 broken side of 1 wrench instead of trashing 5 whole wrenches.
It's also not just about when I fails. Cleaning and lubing are also "service" now I can take care of the tool and probably see when it's starting to fail and then I can preemptively call the dealer so I can fix it before it brakes. Take care of the things that take care of you...
Also, snap on isn't for 'most consumers'. When you're a hobbyist, you probably aren't going to use it frequently enough or hard enough to need that warranty. If you do, you're probably using the wrong tool anyway.
But when it's your trade and it gets used and abused every day it being serviceable is important and again, I don't wanna trash the rest of my set, because 1 broke.
Serviceability absolutely matters. Your line of thinking is why we live in a cheap disposable world.
@@DampNoodlesThat's not really true about having to return the whole set in the vast majority of stores. The policy on the torq test channel guys store is not the normal policy. Every Harbor Freight that I have been in will replace just the bad tool, and then the partial set that they removed the replacement tool from goes on a special shelf at a sale price. The manager of his store is not even really supposed to be doing that, because that is not their official policy that you have to have the entire set to get a warranty. I've been buying and returning tools at Harbor Freight for over 20 years, they have never made me return the whole set at three different stores. Repairability does not matter on these.
@@DampNoodles I hate to break it to you, but we do actually live in a disposable world and it's not good I agree, but to the average consumer the end result is the same and doesn't matter.
You also have to wait for a truck to show up and hope they have the parts to fix your tool with them that week where with icon you can walk in and get it replaced literally anytime.
@@DampNoodles also none of that justifies the absurd pricetag that the snap-on has, when you can buy 5 sets of wrenches for the same price as 1 set of snap-on no warranty or service ability will make that worth it. If anything the fact they can fix a wrench instead of replacing the whole set should make it easier for them to compete on price.
Snap On - "We'll make them choose between paying their mortgage and buying groceries..... or buy our wrenches. ah ha ha ha ha" ( evil laugh )
Dang snappy is getting serious😊
Always great content!
Hi bosch released a new impact driver 220c and i am relly intrested to see what is the difference in numbers, because the 200 and 210 feel slow and a lot less powerful compared, and feel like a whole different league.
Harbor freight's brands hold a middle finger to everyone else's patents, about time a brand give 'em the finger back.
At 8:11
Snap-on test....
If you look carefully, you can see the entire wrench bending slightly....
Only a little bit :P
Please review Marcos newest version of this wrench IT IS FAR SUPERIOR
Hard to argue with gearwrench for the coin. I think I'll atick with them.
The Cornwell wrenches are 120 tooth
Very well presented! As usual.