The Next Evolution Of Minesweeper!
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- Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2023
- Polimines 2 Part 1 - minesweeper + nonograms = a match made in heaven! You know I love minesweeper, but did you also know I'm a big nonograms/picross stan? Catch me streaming the rest of the game sometime soon!
Edited by: Noarsy and Ben Ranger
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I blame Tyler for getting me into Minesweeper and i blame him for furthering my enjoyment of the genre when he brings a new game about it on the channel !
Same, some of my favorite games of all time now are Tametsi and Hexcells, and i have even more wishlisted
@@cceli6382i love both of those but i play 14 minesweeper variants more often
That's my game! Thank you so much for the video, glad you enjoyed it!
Perfect combination imo. Love both of these games, putting them together was a stroke of genius!
Quick question: at 3:03 the 2 at the bottom left doesn't make sense does it?
@@Carma281 It does, the 2 in that position is saying that there's a group of two in that row, nothing more. If it were at the top (where the 1 is) it would mean there's a mine in that row and in that column.
It makes more sense when you play and you can toy around with the UI helper.
Pokemon did it first. Voltorb Flip. xD
Has anyone told you the red Xs look out of place? How about having the numbers greyed out, or a singular black strikethrough?
Geniunely curious, it may be a me thing but I think they look way out of place
12:00 As someone who’s also completely self taught on Nonograms, hearing someone else use the exact same logic lines ive constructed for myself gives me immense satisfaction. This game seems like a gift from God directly to my computer, and i cant wait to spend 500 hours on it!
It is very satisfying to me to actually be able to follow what he is doing without thought for once due to a chunk of picross knowledge
I love to give myself immense satisfaction to Tyler's videos too
I was surprised when tyler started to explain the subtraction method at 10:45 . I completely figured this one out by myself and didn't know it was a rule! Nonogram is actually pretty great for keeping your mind in check :D
Tyler does it in a way a little more complicated than I do, in this scenario I'd just do the left most, see how many are not bombs on the right, and take that number away stating from the left, the squares that go over 3, in this case, is the one with the bomb, there's no math this way so it's easier for me kdjxjxjc
yo same
i just tried picross puzzles until i found strategies and it's super cool that he's using the same methods
Hey editors, if you read this, you're doing a so amazing job, for half of the video I forgot that the green squares are done by you and not actually part of the game, yet showing Tyler's thought process so clearly
You guys definitely deserve some love
Holy. I don't read comments until after the video and I was certain that the green and slightly off orange were because of like a right click menu in the game. The editors are crazy
@@R1ddle what do you mean? the tile highlights are in the game
@@megamech2268the fully green tiles yes, the squares outlining, purple, red, etc arent, its the editor's.
Oh this is delightful
Reminds me of a more fleshed-out version of the Voltorb Flip minigame of Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver
dude no joke i think ive played more voltorb flip than soulsilver itself
I liked that minigame but it always felt like it had some guessing, more then an average game of minesweeper. I'm not sure if my feeling is true or if there was some hidden logic that I never figured out as a kid.
@@Typhlosion952 since he voltorb flip is in a lot of pokemon fangames, i have played it fairly recently. 100% you have to guess for soem levels. you can definitely find the more likely spots for no voltorbs though.
I do think one important thing to realise for that game though, is that its never worth clearng the board, 1 point squares have 0 value so you only need to click the 2 and 3 point squares to clear a level, this does help narrow it down a lot since you know that if the bombs+points of any row or column=5, then you dont have to click any of the squares in that row/column
@@Typhlosion952cause voltorb flip is an actual gambling game, most of the times you're betting on different chances
@@Typhlosion952 Yes, there was some elements of luck where you'd get 50/50s, but it was supposed to also represent some gambling. Sometimes the correct play was to just take the pot and run. It was a game of chance where you actually had a solid way to impact the game through skill.
omg! the editing on this video was so god-like, the squares showing up briefly to help explain Tyler's logic was so well done. Expecially the animation to show all possible mine group locations. Bravo editors, you people are polishing Tyler's gem into an even better beaut.
Reminds me of Hexcells, having both clues inside and outside the grid. I loved that game, so I'm looking forward to seeing more of this game!
A combination of Minesweeper and Nonogram... The two puzzle that took up hours of my time... Sounds perfect!
I don't think that I have seen Tyler play such an in depth puzzle game since the step up in editing prowess. The editing is so good in fact, that if I were to go out and play this game for myself, I think it would feel like it was missing key features. 10/10
Tyler makes great content. The Editors make great content. Together they are unstoppable!!!
Woah. Another minesweeper variant. With so many variations of the original, there are so many Aliensrock videos just waiting to be made.
That’s what I was thinking. I finished watching hexcells a couple months ago.
It is so fun hearing Tyler explaining stuff about nonnograms that I struggled to learn at first on my own
10:44 I was gonna explain that strategy in a comment since I thought it was a unique one I thought up, but good to see I was not alone in my thinking. Great explanation and visuals!
same! I thought I was super smart for finding that out lol
you should try playing bombe, it’s similar to minesweeper but you tell the computer the rules and it solves the puzzles based on the rules you set
every minesweeper vid you put out just makes me want to go back and play every version/variant of minesweeper I've ever played, what a great game
Tyler, I think I love these types of puzzles too, now that you’ve introduced me to them. The elegance of logic is astounding.
Hi Tyler. Glad you’re back with another minesweeper game. But what happened to 14 minesweeper variants? It seems like that gameplay session was abandoned abruptly almost a year ago.
People didn't watch those for very long! Maybe they could return via stream?
@@Aliensrock Maybe the same could be said about tametsi? I'd love to see you finish the game
@@salty2382Tametsi had some gorgeous logic in it. I want a sequel so bad.
@@Scuuurbs yeah, I have like 40 hours in tametsi and still haven't finished it lol
@@Aliensrock Hmmm... it's unfortunately that people don't watch it for long, but it also makes sense why. Despite its vastly deep content, 14mv is the least visually and audibly entertaining out of all the minesweeper games you have played. It's made from the same developer of Understand, but at least Understand has funny levels plus different colors to make it visually enjoyable, while 14mv keeps the same color scheme all around and it's all strictly serious.
Don't get me wrong, I bought and played 14mv as well after seeing you showcased it, and it is a really great brain teaser (sometimes too great actually when the levels become difficult). But I also understand that most of the gameplay itself (the deduction and reasoning) is really cut and dry, almost to the level of just watching someone else solving math equation.
Still, thanks for the reply!
I love playing the various Picross games and enjoy the minesweeper vids so this is gonna be a good series.
My god I can finally follow the logic in one! Plus your editor is genuinely amazing at making these easily understandable as well as entertaining. Keep up the amazing work!
the editing on this episode is PHENOMENAL. highlighting what Tyler is talking about makes it very easy to follow along, which can be difficult given how fast he is at minesweeper logic!
This came out right as I was rewatching old minesweeper videos so glad
Would love to see more of this. Your mine sweeper like videos are some of my favorite
Your Minesweeper videos are some of the most satisfying you make, please continue!
This was the collab I never knew I needed thank you so much Tyler
The way that the numbers themselves are tiles, like that double question mark around 6:15, is just so clever to me. They both refer to vertical single groups, but they also refer together as a horizontal double group, and both are separate. It just feels so clever to me
I never gave much attention to minesweeper, so i always sucked at it, but I LOVE picross, so this games is actually making me learn about minesweeper while being entertaining as hell. Great video!
I had never really played Minesweeper because I didn’t like the guessing, but I got very into Hexcells after seeing your video on it a couple years ago. I remember struggling to follow the logic back then. This game seems so similar, but now I can keep up lol
The combination of Picross and Minesweeper seems SO obvious now! This is definitely one of those “Why didn’t I think of that?” moments for me. :)
There are 5 comments, RUclips, why won't you show me them then?
You are not worthy
The prophecy has not yet been fulfilled.
Its a canon event
You must prove yourself
it is not your time
i love this puzzle type, had to do it in an escape room a few years back and it's honestly so fun
bro thank you for finding this. my two go to games are minesweeper and nonograms. a game that combines them is *chef's kiss*
As a picross enjoyer, this is rather satisfying to watch, particularly after having picked up on quite a lot of strats
huge agree, Tyler always making me want to slowly drain my wallet with banger puzzle games
Got to love that both you and Icey puzzles posted a minesweeper video today
I love that, minesweeper is one of my favorite games of all time and anything new related with it is amazing news
this is like hexcells which is one of my favorite minesweeper varients, I love it
I love both minesweeper and nonogram. Thank you Tyler for showing this game! Will definitely check the game out
never messed with nonograms, so you making leaps in logic and speeding through these puzzles left me in the dust on multiple occasions, but I caught up in the end. really cool concept
Defo up for seeing more of this on RUclips!
Two games of my favourite! I am so looking forward to this series!!!
I love puzzles like this. There is only 1 solution so viewers can 'play along'.
Puzzle games where there's multiple solutions or where characters/puzzle pieces need to be moved around are harder to play along with as the puzzle to be solved is effectively changing all the time.
Enjoyed the hell out of this, I always love your minesweeper videos, they are so interesting to watch
It's satisfying seeing 2 different games merge into 1 game
Nonograms and minesweeper are my two favourite puzzle types. Dream game
Minesweeper nonogram combo is genius. I def have to try this one out, this is why I love your channel so much you showcase such great games that I always end up loving to play myself
The editing in this is exquisite
Really hope these videos perform wel because this is my favorite type of video. So cozy!
11:00 im SO glad to see someone else does this trick!
These types of games are the best. Can't wait to see more of it
Please continue, I finally understand your reasoning without much explanation for once bc I love monograms
Picross is my favorite puzzle seeing it mixed with minesweeper is amazing
I love nonograms so much! So happy to see it mixed with minesweeper
Always wanted to see a game that combined these mechanics!
This is a great game
Love the explanations and the help of the editors
There is a nonogram twist that I adore: Hungry Cat Nonogram. Instead of having a single color where the numbers refer to the groups you have to paint, you have multiple colors that can be circled, meaning that that colored group is contiguous and not circled, meaning that the color must have another color in between. The game has lots of grids, but every Tuesday, they release a new challenge grid composed of 9 grids as 3x3. I've been playing it since 2014 and it is still my favorite. I highly recommend it, even if it is a mobile game.
This is one of those puzzlers where you just hear the concept and immediately realize how clever it is
This game is crazy and I love it
This is awesome, I regularly play nonograms so I can finally beat some of the puzzles before Tyler does!
My favorite Picross/Nonogram of all time is Picross 3D (DS game). Having a third dimension plus the tools being a chisel and a paintbrush was really fun and this game kinda adds a second layer of clues with the numbers and ? at the middle, so I might check it out.
im okay at minesweeper but seeing you explain your logic makes me wanna get better at it thank you SO much for that lol
Dude I could listen to this man ramble about Minesweeper for hours like an ASMR playlist
I love this. I play nonograms at work and that's basically what this is but with minesweeper
PLEASE KEEP DOING VIDEOS OF THIS GAME
I dont know how much you played Picross, but I can tell id love this game
Ooh, I love nonograms. Finally a puzzle type that I can follow along without being completely lost.
I keep suggesting to people that they should play minesweeper and they always brush it off as a joke, finally I found my place to be
What an enditing job was done on this vid. Great job!
my favorite two logic games combined into a brilliant game? Count me in
There's something extremely therapeutic about listening to Tyler logic his way through the mines.
Picross/nonogram is one of my favorite types of puzzles
One minute in and I can already tell the editors did a fantastic job on this one
oh my god this is the crossover i NEEDED
Watching Tyler delve into nonograms, which are one of the puzzles I specialise in, is very entertaining! It's fun to see how someone else logics out certain "rules" differently from you!
nicee, minesweeper is back. and I used to play nonograms, so this is extra fun for me to watch
Can't wait to see more if this game on YT
the logic on this is so cool , i might have to pick it up for myself
i love picross so much!!! what a great combination of games!
I agree with Tyler: these two kinds of games are great
So basically sudoku, if you're familiar with the slightly advanced strategies. You're just revealing mines instead of revealing numbers, and the levels can be more abstract. The skill ceiling is probably a tad bit lower than sudoku, since all of the logic is broadcasted right at you, but edit: maybe not since the question marks exist; it's just in a different direction. Always a fun day, seeing minesweeper on the Aliensrock channel.
Notation wise, it would be SO MUCH CLEARER if "?" meant a single unknown for column and row and "¿?" meant two different unknowns, one for the column and one for the row
I got into nonogram's and i still call the squares mines because of you
Oh hell yeah, it’s always a good day when tyler posts more minesweeper variant games. As someone who avidly plays both minesweeper and nonogram, this made me want to reach into the screen and play myself.
Speaking of minesweeper variants, have you tried out Tetris Sweep on itch yet? I’ve been absolutely obsessed with it. I hope you like playing minesweeper and tetris at the same time
it's like voltorb flip, but actually fair! (logic in that game only gets you so far, even a computer can't solve them even like 80% of the time)
Tgis is a fantastic game to watch you play and absolutely every kudos to your video folk bc the way yall made the edits is absolute top teir
Reminds me heavily of Hexcells, loved that series of games.
Reminds me a lot of Mine of Sight, a flash game that got ported to a mobile app. had a lot of intuitive rules and even had a randomly generated mode upon finishing all the levels.
my favourite version of these kinds of games is Hexcells, hexagons are the bestagons
10:4 I think of the nonogram rule a bit differently, although it amounts to the same.
You mark all numbers and their needed breaks except for the largest number, starting from the edges. Whatever remains is your block for the largest number. So in this example, you mark 4 rightmost cells (3 + a break), and you're left with 7 spaces for a 4, so the middle must be mine.
To quickly see if you can mark anything at all, double the largest number, then add all other numbers and breaks. If the result is larger than the space you have, then you can mark something. So in this example, 2*4+3+1=12>11, so you can mark something. (If your largest number appears multiple times, only double it once! For example, if this was 3-3 instead of 4-3, you do 2*3+3+1=10
Finally, a style of puzzle where I've truly learned enough of the technique for both games involves to entirely keep up with Tyler's logic
Hey Tyler, I know two minesweeper game I think people would enjoy playin, for normal minesweeper you have globesweeper, for many variants you have globesweeper: hex puzzler, both of which cost less than 5 dollars COMBINED, and hex puzzler I think fans would really enjoy.
This looks fun asf
I would love to see Tyler play Bombe. It's a game where you write the rules for the game to solve minesweeper puzzles. The UI is not great, but once you settle into the method it's a lot of fun to think about generalizing the rules you know but cannot articulate.
Fun concept, you made it look easy!
Combining two games I really like to do when bored. I like it. Now, if they just added sudoku to this, it would be the trifecta! :D
as somebody who loves minesweeper and nonograms, I see this as an absolute win
That's a very smart combination!
nonogram games are underrated and need more love
holy hell my two favourite games combined.
This is my perfect game
Thank you Tyler for bringing it to my attention
I've allways tried to explain how to play nonogram to serveral friends, but I'm kinda trash at it. This vid just shows the most basic of the tricks for nonogram, which would be perfect for them to be as addicted as I am. Tnx! Great idea btw, never thought of this combo but it's extremely appealing for some reason!
Dude I fucking love minesweeper variants