Who is Aresgame? 500w Power Supply First Look and Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Who is Aresgame? 500w Power Supply First Look and Review
Today we take a look at a power supply brand that I have not ever heard of. that I picked up on
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I was looking for a budget power supply and this one looked pretty good and had decent reviews and for just $39 so I figured I'll give it a try! So, lets take a look at this 500w 80+ Bronze power supply from AresGame!!!
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Lol, I used the 650W version of this for a build that'll be featured on the channel next weekend, let's just say....I paired a RTX 3080 with it 😅
Better not frie the computer 😂, also I’m subbed and I watch you video a lot it’s funny too see you hear 👋
Ballzie! I like your style Danny! Thanks for paying my channel a visit 😉
love ur channel my dude, i also bought this power supply except i got the 500w version
Yo danny
@@TristanSpeno Same, it has worked great for me so far!
using this on my b day pc (March 1). Will be my second pc build. I loved my first one but had to sell it in august of 2020 to help my family.
One thing that I love is giving the opportunity to new brands. I just bought one.
This seems perfect for my budget gaming PC builds!!! Just ordered one thanks!
Awesome! I’ll be taking a look at their 850w unit soon!
thanks for the review man im prolly gonna be using this for my build
Nice!
I got this PSU a couple weeks ago, it is simply amazing for the amount I paid. They are going to raise the price for sure to stack up on good reviews.
Troi Magdaleno so far I have zero complaints! Nothing sketchy about it at all!
yup i ordered one 2 days ago and they raised the price by $10
They raised the price already 👀
alright ima buy it
mine caught on fire, amazon accepted my return
I really liked this video, and your channel as well! New subscriber.
Thanks so much!!!
Let me know in the comments below if you would pick up a power supply like this! Thanks for watching!!!
I like your videos so I might as well subscribe 👍
Well thank you!
I'm allready subbed
clash of clans and other thanks!!!
I would pick this up
Great Video! Currently building a PC and good power supply deals can be hard to find right now.
Yes they can be! Kind of why I took a gamble on this one to see what it had to offer! All good so far!
omg this channel is so underrated im subscribing
Thank you!!!
Definitely using this for my 3rd budget build!
Heck yeah! It’s great!
I bought one of these and put in my first PC build. So far very impressed!
Yep! No complaints here either!
How is it now?
@Shagagna which watts did you get?
@Shagagna nice, I'm thinking of getting a 850w or 1000w dont know yet
I bought the 1000w one from them had it for a month so far no issue :)
Thankyou for this Review, I'm thinking buy this product😁😁
I’ve had no issues and have used this PSU brand on many builds now
Love the mic. I know someone that needs one like that ;)
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Thanks for the help😎👊
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Love this power supply, great bang for the buck for what you get. Granted its not modular, but all black cables, 80+bronze and that tester piece is pretty nice.
Heck yeah! Agreed!
thank you this video is very helpful! I'm upgrading a very old system that is from like 2008. The PSU is very LOUD!
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks man for reviewing this product!!! At first I thought this must be a bad power supply and to good to be true. After your review I’m confident picking this up and putting a ryzen 5 2600 and rx 5500xt 8gb with it.
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
did you ever put the ryzen 5 2600? im thinking about using both in my future pc, just want know your opinion on it.
Another great video 😀
Thanks!!!
I'm working on a budget build, so I guess I'm going with this
Heck yeah!
Same
Literally just found these on Amazon.
Hope you found my content helpful! 😉
Same
I bought their 750w full Modular 80+ gold psu comes with a 10 year warranty for my gaming rig and I have 3 of their 500w psu's for my kids rigs work great 👍
I just bought one for my first pc build after randomly finding it on Amazon one day
Nice!
same i saw it had good reviews so i watched this video and bought it
What's ur budget
Buying this for my 10400f 1660super today! :)
650w 80plus aresgame
Nice!!!
great vid thanks
Sure thing! Thanks for watching!
Hello, I'm from Colombia and I did buyed this PSU for my PC, I'm really anxious to install and prove, thanks for your video, I like it, helped me a lot.
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
yo tambien la compré, me acabó de llegar, listo para instalar :D
@@bipolaryx yo la instale el martes y va perfecto por ahora todo bien
Acuérdense del regalo y pongan que lo envíen a Colombia y les dicen que no pueden hacer el envío y les dan 35 dólares xd
@@juanpablojun5214 really? Jajajaja yo les mandé el correo hace unos días, aún espero respuesta
Literally Underated channel
Thanks so much!
I'm late, but I snagged a 750 w for $30 with Amazon prime can't wait for it to arrive
Hello, I’m new to the channel but I’m looking to make a pc and I appreciated your review of this product as I’m considering using this in my build. I’m planning on including an i5 10400 and an Nvidia 3050 ti/3060 (assuming they release and are available). Do you believe the 650 w version of this would be safe or should I just opt for name brand?
Yes I have no reason to distrust this brand. I am too keeping my eye out for anything negative and have not found anything. I know the Toasty Bros (a much bigger tech channel than man) trusts them as well. All that said I think getting the 650w is a good decision brand wise and power budget wise.
I've been throwing these into budget builds with AMD FX chips and RX 480 GPUs. Absolutely recommend them. No issues whatsoever and they look much nicer than most other budget PSU options.
Awsome glad to hear they have served you well!
How are they holding? Any complaints yet? I just bought it and now i’m curious.
@@ramoaltab7841 no issues or complaints at all, no dead units or anything. Somewhere around 50ish PCs in.
Can you review the AGT850/1000 line? Its their high-end options. I use the AGT850 with a 3070 and r7 2700x oc to 4.1ghz and after 1 month i have not seen any issues and its heavy too. I'm give the little guy a chance. Upgraded from EVGA.
I guess I could get this to replace the old Delta PSU on my Haswell Asus Essentio PC. Surprisingly premium looking for a budget option.
Mine only came with 2 PCIe cables. It is 1000W with 6 ports. Can't find any information on getting more cables...
Great video man! Doing Gods work hahahaha
Hah! Thanks!!!
Might get this for a budget build I'm doing with a xeon x3430
Nice!!!
Just purchased this installed it, i had a 4 pin cpu connector came with 8 but i was able to split it into 2x4 so it fit perfectly performance wise i dunno just installed it
I’ve had it in 3 different systems now with zero issues. I think you will be fine!
I was on pcpartpicker and found out afterwards that their filter was wrong about this particular unit. They had it listed as a semi-modular unit. I bought it thinking that and after I checked it out. I emailed the pcpartpicker guys and let them know to fix that listing. To their credit they responded promptly and did it without a hitch.
Also like the item itself. Despite not being semi-modular it's a solid unit and I'm glad to have it.
Nice!
@@PCTechHustle btw thanks for covering the unit. I appreciate an honest and detailed review.
Just bought this cause my other psu went and was tight on money.. Should do well with a rzyen 5 3600 paired with a 1060 gb
Nice! Yeah you should be good!
I picked this one up and I actually got it today
Nice! How do you like it?
Review ?
Keep it up
Abbasfd05 will do! 😎
should i get this over the 500w evga psu on amazon
I’d personally choose EVGA first just because I know the brand more and have worked with those PSUs for years but that doesn’t mean anything negative against this PSU either.
Running this exact PSU, and the fan gives me the loud "woosh" noise even when not under load, any way to fix this?
Hard to say. I have no experienced that. It seemed to run pretty silent for me.
I dropped one of these into my Dell 9020 with a GTX 1660 and the only thing I needed was a 24 pin adapter for the wonky Dell mobo. Works great!
Awesome!
Can you send me a link for that adapter? I have the same dell
I like it! I used a 650w Aresgame PSU in a Dell Vostro 3471 SFF i5-9400 with a RX 6600.
Obvously, I took apart the motherboard from the SFF case and put it on a test bench. I also used a 24 pin to 8 pin adapter, because Dell's motherboard doesn't fit a 24 pin connector from any PSU (I bougth it in AliExpress for a few bucks).
It worked flawlessly, except for the fan noise, but Idk if I can't turn it off or at least slow it down due to Dell's motherboard lack of config and Aresgame PSU doesn't have any buttont to turn it on/off.
Btw, I got about +/- 120 FPS at 1080p (High settings) in games like Fortnite and WZ, Hitman 3 was at 240 FPS easily and Aresgame PSU didn't get hot nor caused crashes to the GPU. I remark this because I also have a NZXT 850w PSU and it lasted a year and a half powering a RX 5700 XT and suddenly the GPU started to get some crashes every 2 or 3 hours, you know the black screen, and I was thinking the GPU was faulty, but no, I just replaced the NZXT PSU and it worked like a charm.
I've been using for a couple weeks now with the 750W version with my expensive 3080 GTX.
The quality and feel of the product does speak for itself, it certainly doesn't feel like generic cheap PSU that will set your PC and my (expensive)GPU on fire.
I had a Corsair brand die on me before and a lot of people have noticed that 'brand names" mean a lot less nowadays.
However, I must mention the sketchy part is that they send an email to anyone who has bought it so they can get (win) a free RGB mouse pad if they leave behind (presumably) a positive review on Amazon. Maybe this is actually just increasingly normal practice on Amazon; to be fair they are a unknown brand so they probably wanted to stand out a little more by drawing positive feedback with a decent quality product.
Yeah they are new I’ve spoken with their marketing reps. So far I also have nothing negative to say.
Do you think this will fit and work with a dell optiplex 9020
The only issue I’ve found is this PSU acts strange with a 24-to-8 pin motherboard power adapter. Seems to shut down under load. Not sure why but that is what I have ran into. I can’t recommend it for that.
I just bought a g5 5000 unit from dell. It came with 350w power. The way they designed it is that you cannot upgrade the power unit that it is long in shape. Well you can remove it. I will have to have this sit outside the chassis and run the cords inside and plug them in that way. The question Im having is that the mother board does not have the 24 pin connection. However I saw on Amazon that you can get a converter that goes from the 24 pin to 6 pin. I hope this turns out ok. The is for the video.
Yes you can get an adapater for the 24 pin, here ya go! amzn.to/3bxN3Kf
The reason that tester is valuable (the same can be accomplished with a paper clip but those testers are handy, some EVGA models also provide them) is so you can test the unit when you get it, to make sure it is not DOA and so you don't waste your time, installing it in your case, only to THEN find out, the thing is DEAD.
what type of gpu can I use with this and i am using a b450m pro motherboard!
A lower to mid range GPU is what I would suggest
Me gusta ver tus vídeos, amigo.
Thank you!
I have the aresgame 650w paired w a ryzen 3600 and rx5600xt. The 3600 is running at 4.4 and I have the 14gbp bios flashed on my 5600xt. I haven’t had a problem with this power supply yet had it about a month
Nice! Good to hear! Thanks for your feedback!
This psu is in my Dell Optiplex 7010 with a rx 580 8gb. Thankfully, it works well!
I’ll be doing a very similar build soon!
Paid $39.49 for the 500w on A*&%*n two days ago. Price went back to $49 next day. Can't pass up that kind of deal.
its at 39.69 rn
I paid 50 for the 650watt version lol
could you review their CPU Cooler? Aresgame River 5 is about 30$ it looks really promosing.
Nice! Didn’t know they had one! I may check into that! Thanks for the suggestion!
13:26 are you talking about things like the thermaltake smart 80+ I have it and want to upgrade to something that i know wont die and destroy my parts
I’ve never had a single issue with the Thermaltake Smart series PSUs. I feel more comfortable recommending that one over this one just because I have more experience with it.
@@PCTechHustle so is the thermal take bx1 550w good or safe
Is ms bronze 500w psu enough for rx570 4gb, r5 2600x and 16gb ram?
Absolutely!
How did you plug it in your mother board don’t you need that other part
Not sure what you are referring to. The motherboard will only require a 24pin and 4/8 pin cpu/eps power
From comments ive seen on other videos Aresgame is a psu OEM for thermaltake and a couple other big brands. They are trying to get established into the psu market
I figure as much! Good to know though! Thank you!!!
Do you think it will fry my pc ? In total it needs around 550 watts and I'm planning on getting the 650 watts version of it
Nah! You will be fine!
I just got an EVGA 80+ white 500w on ebay for $42 a few days ago.
That’s a great price for that unit!
how loud was the fan? wondering if it’s worth it
Completly silent
it has been 3 years since I''m still using that PSU. I still have my house.
Yep still going strong in a system I built for a customer!
I have one in my MSI prebuilt and I bought one for a new build.
Nice!
Would this be a safe power supply for an rx 580 and i3 10100
Absolutely!
I actaully use this unit and the mouse pad and its great im just a little worried its a ticking bomb with my 3600XT and 1660
So far I’ve not heard a single bad thing about these units and I’ve used them a lot in lower powered systems.
Bought 650w for a ryzen 7 3700x and 5700xt no issues. Steal with back cables, tester/ties, & under $60 with tax& shipping. Will updated if anything changes.
Nice!!!
how has it gone? is it good?
any issue ?
I normally would agree on EVGA, but not now I read where they have changed OEM manufacturers to cut costs and reliability has gone downhill. I was conflicted between Aresgame and EVGA but frankly reviews were better for this one so I got the 650watt version - that said the only thing that remains to be seen is longterm reliability, but ive researched this brand to death all over the place and yes they are new, but it they really seem to be trying for quality, reviews say the same its got high grade overall build quality and their customer service is said to be first rate. I saw so many bad reviews for Corsaie I just gave up on them. Im pretty discerning and critical on any new brand especially power supplies and its the first time ive felt this confident in a new brand or product. You can get a random bad product in any mass manufactured item, its just a question of how high the percentage is. This brand seems like they really want to make their mark by giving good quality and value and reviews seem to support that - but all that said we wont know until these things have been out for a year two what the real long term results will be, but I felt good enough about them to buy one so heres hoping for good results and a new company who we can trust.
Hey I'm thinking of getting one is it still doing fine for you and what are your specs?
its logo kinda looks like an APower psu i had ages ago.. a 750 watt Apower psu it died twice first the thermo resistor burnt out we twisted that back togather and then later years later the fuze finally poped inside lol ..
Yeah I wouldn’t doubt this is something rebranded
I saw a video that came out today on their channel showing a part of how it is made. I have this exact one and working good so far!
Would this work with a ryzen 3600 a motor motherboard and a EvGa GeForce rtx 3060 ti
That might be pushing it. I’d probably opt for the 650w instead with that combo.
@@PCTechHustle mk thanks
Bought the 1000w for a rtx 1080 and i9 9900k. Did I do somethig stupid that might fry the thing up? On amazon is rated 80+ Gold but think it’s misleading. Any help would be appreciated
I’ve not had a single issue with these power supplies. I buy them frequently too. I’d say you are safe but yes it’s been known that the gold rated PSUs may not indeed have the exact power efficiencies making of a good rated unit.
@@PCTechHustle i see, in the end i ended up upgrading with a i912900k and changed psu… but still, thanks a lot for the help
They emailed me a few months ago for a sponsorship haha, They offered me a CPU Fan which I emailed back to see if they do have a better one for me
The CPU cooler is pretty good. Similar to a hyper 212 Evo. I actually did a review on it
@@PCTechHustle okay awesome ill check it out, I think i have a better cpu fan then the one there offering but i just have to see
My psu just bit the dust so this helps
Glad you found it helpful!
Hello, this PSU work nice with a Ryzen 5 5600g and b450m, 16gb ram 3200mhz? thanks
Absolutely it will!
@@PCTechHustle Oh, thanks for your reply. I would like to ask you one more question. I want to bring this PSU from the US along with other things, but I saw that here in my country an EVGA 400W is much cheaper. Do you recommend it for this same processor?
Does it have a atx 4pin for cpu
Yea it does!
@@PCTechHustle ok thx
Should i use this for my ryzen 5 5600x and rtx 3070? I got a evga power supply and it bit the dust 😭
Sure! But for that kind of setup I’d bump it up to at least the 650w version
@@PCTechHustle thanks i found a antec 700w neo eco gold zen for 66 very good condition on amazon warehouse and got that instead
I'm using this psu with an i5 8400 and gtx 1650 super so it should work fine
Nice! 500w will do plenty fine!
We really need more people to know about this brand. Its a shame that it's so little people know about it. I think once a giant channel gets a video out (no offence) then people will be definitely buying there products.
Yep so far I have nothing negative to say about this brand. They were even kind enough to send me their cooler for review as well! It’s a great looking cooler too. They are becoming more well known for sure though.
@@PCTechHustle I think once people get past the new brand skepticism then they will be just like the big brands but more budget based at the start.
ordered the 650w version of this today.. been running on a antec phantom 500w for too long its wimpy 12v rails holding me back . cant oc my phenom and have to down clock a rx570 to keep the psu from tripping.. looking forward to its arrival in the mail. so i can finally get off this psu. "altho the antec phantoms been a tank its entire life just... time to move on
Nice!
Why does it only work when that plastic 24 pin thing is connected to it??
It’s a jumper. It just turns the power on to the device.
I'm about to do what PC Tech Hustle was about to do: drop an Aresgame AGV 500 watt power supply unit into a recently purchased old Dell Optiplex tower (9010), replacing the still working Dell 275 watt PSU. I want plenty of wattage overhead for the extra items I've put in the tower. I've just bought the AGV500 PSU from a well known UK retailer for £38.69. Here's hoping everything goes well.
I’ve had zero issues with the brand! 😉
@@PCTechHustle It's a bit noisy, which I'm surpised by. The Dell PSU's silent. The Dell PSU is going back into the PC for now & the Aresgame PSU's on its way back to the retailer. You live & learn, I suppose.
could i use this psu for a build with an Ryzen 5 3600/ rx 5500 xt 8gb/ a b450 ???????
They might be cutting it close. You might want to step up to their 650w unit that goes like like $10 more
@@PCTechHustle thank you so much for the comment, im a such fan great video man
For sure! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hey, I picked one up recently and am a little worried to put it into my system as I’m rockin a ryzen 5 5600x and a twin edge 3070. I don’t wanna fry my parts, so should I use this power supply? How is it holding up today?
Why would you be using ANY 500W PSU with a 3070?!?
I’d honestly recommend a better PSU. Although I have not had any issues with this one and it seems like a good part with those high end parts you are using I would suggest something a bit higher wattage and from a reputable brand.
@@PapaMav I meant the 750 Watt power supply, same brand. Sorry for not clarifying.
@@PCTechHustle Got it, thank you.
@@pattyonabun7476 got it. Sounds reasonable. But, what I suggest is go to PC Part Picker website, put the components of your build in so it will tally up the total wattage. Then multiply that total by 1.5, round the number and get that wattage PSU. That will also give you overclocking room should you ever chose to do so.
I have to use Amazon because they're the only ones that don't have a problem delivering to my nephew on an Air Force base and I came across this with some good reviews, but I know not to trust Amazon reviews. The PSU is kind of the most important part of your PC so I need these reviews
Agreed! I saw an opportunity to make an honest review of a less known product at the time so I want to try and provide!
I want to build a budget build of a Msi 5500Xt 8gb Oc it’s 189 usd on amazon with a ryzen 5,3600. I will buy the R5,3600 when it goes on 180 or 170 when it’s on offer. The ram I’ll just get a 16 gb
Sounds like a very solid build!
@@PCTechHustle but I don’t want to mess up by shocking the motherboard or forgetting the standoffs 😅
So far I have no reason to doubt this power supply of that is what worries you
@@PCTechHustle I saw this psu the moment they released it on Amazon. I didn’t want to order it because there was 0 reviews on it on yt. Now that somone reliable posted a review on it I’m confident on this psu
does the the cpu 8pin split to 4?
Yes it does
@@PCTechHustle Sweet!!
Hey, any updates? Is it still running nice?
No issues! I’ve actually had it running folding at home projects the last week non stop which maxes out CPU and GPU. Still going strong!
@@PCTechHustle Awesome, thank you! I’ll probably be purchasing this psu.
@@PCTechHustle also I subscribed because you’re a good no bs tech youtuber!
Thanks!!! Tell your friends!! 😉😉😉
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Trying!!!
@@PCTechHustle don't worry u will be as big as tech source soon
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@@PCTechHustle good for ppl like me more videos then 🙂
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mine caught on fire
The thing that concerns me about the ARESGAME Power Supply is the fake reviews. I checked out the product on Fakespot and its adjusted rating is 2/5 Stars compared to 5/5 Stars on Amazon. In comparison, the EVGA and Thermaltake got 4.5/5 Stars. Usually if a product has fake reviews, they probably might not be good. Unfortunately these days, you can't trust the rating on Amazon as there are no-name junk products with a high rating but actually being junk such as a "gaming" keyboard, mouse or headset.
The power supply includes a gift as shown on 4:05 but I don't know if it's one of those gifts that require you to rate the product 5 stars. I believe this action is prohibited by Amazon and I know Amazon prohibits sellers from asking buyers to change or remove their review although it makes me curious how they could email you if you haven't contacted or worked with them before.
Fakespot Analysis
ARESGAME: www.fakespot.com/product/aresgame-power-supply-500w-80-bronze-certified-psu
EVGA: www.fakespot.com/product/evga-500-w1-80-500w-continuous-power-3-year-warranty-power-supply-100-w1-0500-kr
Thermaltake: www.fakespot.com/product/thermaltake-smart-500w-continuous-power-atx-12v-v2-3-eps-12v-80-plus-active-pfc-power-supply-ps-spd-0500npcwus-w
Thanks for the information! I will keep that site as a tool for product research! For the PSU itself, so far I have zero issues and have used the power supply in multiple systems at this point. I have summitted for the free gift though have not received it yet, however does not require you to rate the product in order to receive it.
Bough a 600 watt ares power off amazon.. ended up getting the 500watt in a box mislabled in 2 areas the box artwork was correct. a sticker on one side said 600w and on another side said it was 500wa modular. it was a 500watt non modular.. i have tryed to apply for a refund of the difference but have not gotten any responce back. not even for a full refund just the 20$ difference would suffice. the 500w works fine and is doing the job no reason to send it back but i did pay for a 600 watt..... ares..
Bummer! I guess those things can happen from time to time. If you buy from amazon though you can get a refund from Amazon directly. They will take anything back no questions
So I am confused does it power 500 watts or 450 watts?
500w is the max power delivery
@@PCTechHustle ah thank you Ima buy a 750 watt version then
is it still working
Yep! Zero issues!
@@PCTechHustle awesome thanks for the reply
Anyone know useful things about this manufacturer, such as: OEMs for each model and whether they have Japanese caps? Temp ratings?
If I knew I would have definitely included that information.
@@PCTechHustle as far as I know, no one knows. Sad😢 Same goes w/those Gigabyte PSUs that have now appeared and flooded the market. I am a lot hesitant to buy a PSU w/o knowing the things I asked about and would certainly never be satisfied with a review that in sum, says "well it looks good" and "do what you want".
here from gamers nexus
will you do an update video if it does fail . ? REMEMBER ABUOT THE Gigabyte GP-P850GM JUST WATCH OUT WITH THIS BRAND .
Sure! Though as far as I know it’s still running strong. Stay tuned I am working on a much deeper dive review of the 850w PSU.
@@PCTechHustle ok cool
hahahaha I spotted that typo. Orignal. Im returning the one I just got to get an enermax psu. Don't cheap out when it comes to pc parts.
i reached out to them if they can send out a powersupply for a video and im a little sketched are they legit and do they actually send out items?
I’ve found nothing scratchy about Aresgame. They reached out to me actually.
@@PCTechHustle i reached out to them and they are willing to send out a psu, just seems a little unprofessional and sketchy when they asked for my address and name
Well wouldn’t they need that if they are sending you something?!? 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@jacobabejero8490 how would they ship it to you without your address
@@taschengramittnvm they shippied it to me
How much does it weigh?
Not entirely sure but doesn’t not feel super light like you would feel with a super cheap PSU. It has about as much density of a feel as other quality budget PSUs in this price range (EVGA, etc)
@@PCTechHustle huge fan of corsair. Made by seasonic. I got the AX1600i Titanium
Agreed! Corsair makes some of the best!