Amazon's 5 Most Popular Power Supplies: Budget PSU Round-Up
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- We bought the 5 most reviewed $50-$80 power supplies on Amazon and Newegg to benchmark and review them. This is our first foray into comparative PSU reviews and benchmarks!
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At the time we bought all these power supplies, we paid about $50 to $80 to pick them up. The price range is variable and seems to scale up to $100+ in some instances (not worth it), but we point that out when it's relevant. Either way, we're looking at some of the most popular and common choices among users on Amazon and Newegg (!) to determine if they're worth buying. The power supplies include the Seasonic Focus GM-650, the Fractal ION Gold 550W, the EVGA 700W BQ, the Corsair CX650M, and the Corsair CX650 (a different topology). We'll be adding more power supplies very soon, especially in the budget category. If you're interested in seeing a specific one looked at, leave a comment below and let us know what you want to see tested!
This won't be a "best budget PSUs of 2022" round-up or anything, but it is looking at 5 of the top budget PSUs. We'll keep adding and work toward a "best of" list!
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00:00 - Budget PSU Roundup
02:44 - Our Goals with PSU Content
04:29 - Seasonic vs. EVGA, Corsair, & Fractal
09:11 - Benchmarks & Testing
10:06 - Budget PSU Efficiency Benchmarks
12:11 - Voltage Regulation Capabilities
13:43 - Peak-to-Peak Ripple
15:05 - Power Factor Results
16:57 - Protections & Safety Testing
19:20 - Crossload Testing
21:00 - Conclusion
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EVGA G6
1500w be quiet and the 1600w corsair. To be honest tho I'd really love it if you did this for the full gamut of PSUs like you do with cases.
Could you review the Corsair RMx series (2018 & 2021)?
msi psus
Corsair TX 650M ( Btw i currently use one)
I’m so happy you guys are getting into psus. I used to only trust johnyguru for psu reviews but they haven’t really been doing stuff for a few years now. You guys are the only RUclips channel I’d trust the same way as johnyguru.
Thanks! Jon has been advising us a lot on testing and has been extremely helpful in guiding us in the right direction to improve accuracy and data collection.
Ares from techpowerup is another good place to read PSU reviews
Ares is also doing tests for Tom's Hardware, kit guru and others but he's only one man lol we definitely need even more reviewers of his caliber. Please get into ITX units too Steve.
@@beyondspecs9401 Allan 'Zardon' Campbell is the PSU reviewer at kitguru
@@ReZel80657 No doubt but Aris did reviews for them too. I am sure, google it.
Corsair CXf, TX, PX, RMx. Just want to see the difference.
Seasonic Focus GX, Focus +, PRIME units.
To add to this, compare the newer and older RMx. I have a newer 2021 rmx850. Some people really like the older variant since the fan is apparently quieter.
there's also VS and CV to add to the list of Corsair
This. I tend to use the RM or HX levels myself, depending on what the pricing is doing at the time.
Also interested to hear these. A lot of my friends hail Corsair as king and I'm suspicious.
I always hear that Seasonic is king (and I have a bit of bias in their favor too) and want to hear more objective data about their products.
Definitely curious about the Corsair TX series. They are A tier on the pc cultists psu list but are some of the cheapest compared to the others in that tier.
I really want to see Cooler Master's power supplies and Corsair's CV series in future content. They are really well priced and might be a great choice for budget builders.
I would like to see some cooler master V series vs MWE series as well
CV series is only rated for 30c ambient temperature, and you're supposed to derate by 10% if the ambient temperature (or temperature inside case if mounted with fan inside) goes above that. @Gamers Nexus maybe factor temperature in your calculations if you include such power supplies in comparisons.
The CV series are group regulated so they have piss poor voltage regulation
You don't want to see the CV series, they are awful. The CX series are far better units. Basically any Corsair PSU with a "V" in the name should be avoided - they are all 10+ year old designs and things have moved on a lot in that time for PSU's - double forward is a big improvement, and the CX being a fairly budget PSU with LLC is actually very impressive.
corsair CV is trash
I love to see you actually walking us through a test using the test equipment that you now have. The way you come to the judgment is a path worth watching not just the kit your testing.
PSUs that come with a case, like the NZXT H1 or the one Lian Li bundles with their O11 Dynamic Mini, would be nice to see, so buyers can tell if the combo is a good idea. And please keep mentioning the suppliers for each unit, maybe even do a comparison of different branded PSUs that come from the same supplier, like comparing a higher end EVGA unit (supplied by Super Flower) to the equivalent Super Flower model.
Reminds me of those shit-tier PSUs that come with $20 cases. I've had a dozen or so of those die or malfunction on me lel.
@@blakegriplingph I'm not sure their fire insurance company will allow them to review those, too much chance of burning the building down. :)
I'm nrever trusting PSUs bundled with anything
Came here to say the same thing!
@@marcogenovesi8570 Smart man!
For voltage regulation, consider measuring load step regulation: how quickly the rail voltage recovers and stabilizes from a 10-90% stepped load.
That would be cool.
I would also like to see the efficiency for the actual output.Like 50% at 50 W 90% at 500 W …
Would be extremely helpful to compare a 550 W PSUs with a cheap 750 W PSUs @ 550 W that might run at its max efficiency. These percentage charts can already be found everywhere.
Absolutely. Record the current spikes and voltage droops from regular surges in gpu usage with test equipment in line with the 12V system. Or just use the test equipment to execute a predetermined torture test with huge swings in current (maintaining distance from OCP, OPP, etc.) and just absolutely beat the shit out of the psu.
anything EVGA ranks last with this, garbage PSUs
There’s no end to PSUs to examine so go wild! I enjoy the batch reporting, 5+ psus per video is something I could enjoy consistently if you’re able to work that but no pressure.
Can't wait to see the discrepancy what they are rated at and what other popular supplies are showing during testing. No one else is really doing PSU testing as much anymore. Appreciate the PSU content GN!
perhaps reviews for SFX form factor PSUs would be nice. Since manufacturers have less space to work with, it would be interesting how they vary.
Great request! Saw another comment also asking for that, so we've already added it to the list!
2nd this one. With people trying to cram hedt-level hardware in sub 10L cases (which is awesome), this would be amazing data to have.
@@GamersNexus Nice! Excited to see it. I heard that SFX PSUs have less "protections" because of their form size. However, the source for this is a little "bro science" so would be great having some actual tests on it.
I'd be interested in the Cooler Master SFX V850 which seems to be the only small form factor psu with a 850W capacity
I'd be interested to see how sfx PSUs hold up against their regular atx counterparts. I love SFF PCs and am wondering if I perhaps give up efficiency or quietness by buying a small power supply. Atm I'm using an hdplex 400w ac-dc psu, which is very quiet in terms of fan noise, but an absolute nightmare with coil whine.
I had the coil whine problem with my dc-atx model but I just sent it back in and got a new one. I never experienced any whine from my ac-dc unit. You should probably send it in. I do agree having them review HDPLEXs' PSUs would be awesome though
I want to see the Seasonic Focus sfx psu’s
Agreed
I’d like to see the Corsair SFX PSU’s tested too :-)
The answer is a definitive yes that they have to make compromises, but I would love to see this too
If this is the year of PSU and Fan reviews from GN, then there is finally some good news that we can start to look forward to! It has been a rough couple years, but this is finally something in the tech world that I can actually get excited about. Thanks GN!
7:18 To clarify: double forward topology refers to primary side of power supply. DC-DC or group regulation refer to secondary side of power supply. Hence those are unrelated, you can have either combination. It does happen of course that double forward PSUs in this test are indeed DC-DC.
Yeah, i presume he knew that but he certainly put it badly lol
I would love to see a roundup of 'with the case' supplies - the CM Masterwatt, TT Litepower, Antec Eco, etc etc etc. Most of them are complete junk (Antec used to be an OK Seasonic OEM) and it seems people still arent getting the message, still, that they arent up to close to what they are rated.
Also all your tests only tested LOAD regulation - it would be great to see you get a variac (maybe even an noise injector) and test LINE regulation (ie how does it handle your power going from 130V to 110V, which are still within spec, or even a brownout to 90V). Some test of 240V efficiency would be great too, i have no doubt you have a 240V outlet you can test from. Efficiency at 240 and 120 are VERY different (generally much better at 240V).
I second this, but for the budget cases that come with 250-400W PSUs. Sometimes it is nice to just buy a simple case with simple PSU just to slap in a Pentium or Athlon for a super basic PC.
They might have 208 or 220, 240, like how its set up in Europe isn't common in North America.
@@J-1410 It is common in commercial and industrial buildings.
@@Ravenousjoe 240 in a different way, yes, as in two hots, yes.
240, like in europe with 3 prongs, one hot(at 240), one neutral and one ground, I,m not even finding a standard in NEMA or similar. I'd be curious to know what it is though, if it exists.
@@J-1410 I'm not sure what you mean, 240VAC is 240VAC.
Great stuff! Would love to see testing of some of the more popular units on the PSU Cultist list in the "low priority units" category like EVGA BR units, Gamdias Kratos P1A, Any of the Aresgame units. Maybe some of the better units like the MSI MPG A-GF units in Tier A - put that to the test :)
Aresgame prices seem a bit to good to be true… have you had any experience with them?
@@idleoutcaster I have a 1000 watt Aresgame, and haven't had any problems with it. I don't push it to its limit, so I can't speak to peak it's efficiency, but it serves me just fine.
@@idleoutcaster Gamer Nexus made a video about aresgame psu
Aresgame was already tested: ruclips.net/video/EmeFRtoiIrQ/видео.html
I'd love to see the evga 750w G5 reviewed. I am pushing a tiachi 6800xt and an r7 5800x. I think the wattage is a little low for that gpu/cpu combo, but I haven't had any issues this far. I'm wondering if bumping to an 850w would see any benefits, or if the 750w will stand the test of time being pushed hard
So happy to see this, and with such depth and detail. It seems like power supplies are one of the most, if not the most neglected component in pcs. Motherboards, CPUs, and graphics cards seem to be the most covered everywhere else, and you guys do great work with cases, fans, and heatsinks, so I’m glad power supplies are finally getting a spotlight. Information and reviews on them are so hard to find. When I took a computer to a local guy to diagnose it (ended up being a dead motherboard) where he nitpicked, bashed, and condescended every component of my build including the power supply where I heard for the first time the alien words like “ripple” and “droop.” My first thought was, “you motherfu-“ but my immediate next thought was, “wait, what? How do you know? How am _I_ supposed to know?”
In short this is greatly appreciated and desperately needed info, and couldn’t come from a better channel.
Great comparison, I like how you say New Egg, surprised you guys still use them after your investigation and interview with them. Enjoyable and informative as usual, thanks for sharing!
I would like to see a round-up of a few of the highest-end PSUs on the market to get a good picture of the range between the highest end and the low end. I also think you should continue mentioning the OEMs precisely because from a consumer protection point of view if any issues consistently come up in the product stack of any given brand, they could be using multiple suppliers; however, if issues come up consistently within the OEM, you can call them out. From a value perspective, many consumers (even myself at times) are subject to the "Noctua effect" where a brand is believed to never do wrong, and it leads to a "no one ever got fired for buying IBM" mindset, so you gravitate towards those products, even if they aren't necessarily the best choice. In the PSU world, that is Seasonic. I have seen so many people recommend non-Seasonic branded PSUs because Seasonic is the OEM. I'm not expecting you to find some spectacular garbage Seasonic PSUs, but we know other companies make outstanding PSUs, and it would be good to put it out there to clear the air.
+ 1 on 'non-Seasonic branded PSUs because Seasonic is the OEM'
I don't know how feasible it would be, but it would be interesting to see data on used power supplies to see if their claimed efficiencies hold up over the years
Yeah, a lot of people don't know that PSUs output less over time. I can't count how many people would ask me if I knew what to do about a black screen when they play games when everything had been working great for years. It's almost always the PSU going bad. Works great in Windows, but launch a certain game, and BAM... black screen. And then it gets worse after that.
@@alienrenders would it help if you clean your PSU ?
@@DrSmugface DO NOT open a psu unless you are 100% confident you know EXACTLY what you are doing
“Should I reuse my old psu” is a question most of us just guess at..
I'm glad to see this finally come to fruition, over the years since the 90s I have had power supply failures in computers I've put together and its always been hard to get any objective data about quality, especially when dealing with the more budget friendly end of the market, the information from manufacturers is, er, fanciful at best and opinions on forums might as well be random unless you see a major trend. At least with some consistant testing we might hope that in time a reasonable judgement at the best buy in a group might at least be possible and lead to a reasonable chance the PSU will last - given that it is the one PC component that is most likely to move from build to build.
i was waiting for video about these topic for a long time and finally pcmr jesus has finally made one kudos!
Here in LATAM the Redragon RPGS 600w 80+ bronze model gc-ps002 is becoming a popular PSU. And if anyone is wondering the 80+ bronze is the standard over here, it is rare to see 80+ silver or gold in hardware stores.
LATAM- latin america (so you don't have to google like i did)
those guys make psus now? i got one of their mice the better part of 10 years back, it was... not great.
+1 on this, everywhere I see this Reddragon branded PSUs, a test on these would be nice to see if they are actually any good in comparison with the usual brands
nah just buy seasonic, and in latam at least in argentina there is a lot of gold psus and more... the thing is they're pretty expensive xd
Please include testing of transient loads! Seasonic got screwed, as you know, with the large transient loads from Nvidia GPUs tripping their protection. Testing with GPUs appropriate for the PSU's power output will give some pass/fail real-world data.
I asked the same. Been wondering how true it is.
If I've learned anything from Buildzoid, transients are the make or break of stability. Probably good idea to ask his opinion on which PSU test might be important.
Also test if any of the current PSUs can already meet the ATX 3.0 standard for transient loads.
same issue with cooler master sfx i got , it was replaced but same issue it automatically procs the voltage protection. so i setteled with a more expensive corsair sfx plattinum
Thing is, the problem with Seasonic Prime PSUs isn't exactly in transients, transients trip OCP, latching off the PSU (you can't start it right back up), Prime doesn't latch off, it's a design flaw. The GPU feeds back the noise (ripple) on the 12V v-sense lead (one of the pins on 24-pin connector supplying the voltage reading back to the PSU so it can compensate the drop), and Seasonic haven't thought about filtering said noise, which results in the PSU's logic being thrown off the rails. The only way to reproduce said noise without the GPU on hands is by using a signal generator but they're even more expensive than consumer GPUs.
I am really happy to see the power supply data set starting up!
It makes me so happy seeing you guys taking up the mantle left by Johnny Guru. Nobody could review psu's like him.... until you. Looking forward to seeing future SFX line ups, mid range and high end/high output reviews
Great start, rare to see such thorough PSU testing. I'd like to see how the Corsair RMx series performs. The older editions supposedly suffered coil whine. Corsair updated them last year.
i have one of the new ones and i havent had any issues with coil whine so im pretty sure that was a large part of the revision
Got my RMx in 2014 or 2015. And it does whine.
Got one last year and have none, but that's only one data point
@@JohannVillmann i have a regular rm750 and no whine at all… Weird !
@@Aerialwese14 which version? I just bought the 2021 version and no whine from it, but there's a 2019 version as well, and it's hard to tell them apart other than the label and I think warranty period.
Would be interesting to have some high end powersupplys in the chart.
The BeQuiet dark power pro series or some from seasonic for example.
As they are often promoted by RUclipsrs.
Working on it!
The Corsair AX1500i comes to mind. I'd like to see how it compares to some of the other high ends, as it is what is installed in my system. Yeah yeah I know My PSU is way too big, but it was supposed to be a dual Vega system.
So glad to see PSU reviews. It's next to impossible to get really good data on current PSUs and I'm very happy to have a good source.
Power supplies are where I lack the most knowledge with regard to essential PC components. I can't wait to see you guys do more of this. Keep it up, GN!
I want to see you test the Be Quiet! Straight Power 11, or really any of the Be Quiet! PSUs. I don't see them get a whole lot of attention review-wise, I'm currently using a 750W 80-Plus Platinum version right now in my build (which is half a year old), but I usually see the PSU getting three or four stars on Newegg. I'd like to know what might be responsible for that.
I got the Be Quiet! 600 Pure Power 11 (Gold) a couple of years ago that would fit into this group. No problems so far, but it would be nice to see it in this comparison.
had one of the be quite straight power 11s fail after like 2 months and be quite refused to provide a shipping label to send it in even though it failed freaking fast had to spend 30 shipping it in
I’m curious with these psu’s as well. Usually have been near the top in performance and quality. Would be interesting even if they are usually priced a bit more
Bought the Be Quiet System Power 9 600W a year ago at only 40$. In my opinion it can't be beat. Best on the market at it's price range. It's quite literally inaudible at 12 dB. Paired it with a Thermaltake Riing Silent cooler (13 dB).. spun it up and placed my ear next to it. Felt the cool breeze, but not a single damn sound to be found. All silent. Best purchase I ever made.
I agree. Especially since Be Quiet just dropped new PSUs.
We already know EVGA, Asus, Corsair, Seasonic etc etc have generally well made PSUs. I think it would be of best value to review less known and those very cheap PSU brands such as Coolmax, Apevia,Silverstone, and Raidmax to name a few.
Great work GN!
Silverstone would be interesting due to their sfx and sfx-l lineup
Silverstone is a cheapo brand these days?
@@ffnbbq they have very cheap low end psus, and it would be cool to see them tested to see if they’re actually good
I have a Zelman 650 bronze PSU. Runs my R7 3800x and gtx 1060 3GB 1080p minecraft gaming machine xD
not really, on the lower end they also make barely working PSUs
Heck yeah! This it's truly a service. Thank you
This is the psu content i was looking for
Would love to see a comparison between EVGA's 650-850W Gold supplies, since there's something like 5 different models in that wattage and efficiency bracket and the differences aren't very apparent.
The G2 and G3s were Superflower Leadex 2 and 3 units - both superb. The G4 was a cwt unit if i remember rightly, and i can't remember who makes the g5, but neither of the latter ones have anything like the reputation that the G2 and G3 units had. This is the big problem with the PSU market, you can't actually trust a brand becuase the oem often changes between models, and sometimes there are more than 1 oem making the same model. So reviews of each model are very important for making the right decision. Look at Corsair. I would rather have poored petrol into my pc and lit it than fit an older Corsair PSU, but these days the CX are excellent base models, and the RMx (2019 onwards) models are really really good. They changed oem, tweaked designs and came back with really good units where once they were famous for being hot garbage.
@@malphadour I remember when 10 years ago, i was talked out of getting a CWT-built Corsair by a store rep. They just said "horrible coil whine".
Got myself a Bequiet L7-630 back then, which was a little risk, given it's built by HEC rather than FSP, but reviewers didn't find anything too badly wrong with it. It lived for 9 years, until the 5VSB line gave up. Was powering a 160W overclocked Phenom II X6 and a GTX295 for the first few years of its life.
Hey GN, long time fan of the channel here (but had pretty low DB until now xD). I'd love to see some testing of both Cougar and lower end Thermaltake power supplies, specifically the Cougar BXM 700 and Tt Litepower RGB. When i first bought a cheap Tt years ago for my RX480, it gave all sorts of crashing problems to intricately coloured screens. After returning it and buying a Corsair RMx, it was def to do with that power supply. Steered clear of Tt since but would like to know if they're worthwhile, especially since EVGA, Seasonic and Fractal power supplies here in Australia are either non existent or extremely expensive. Hopefully you can involve this in your testing suite in the future.
haha @ the dB and fan comment. Took me a second! Noted. We have some low-end TT ones on the way!
@@GamersNexus hahaha glad you got the joke eventually 😌 would really want to see a roundup of the best super-budget (below $50) power supplies, including ones from Redragon and GameMax off Amazon
TT litepower are legendarily bad. Toughpower have always been fine. I have always stuck supplies with Seasonic as the OEM (they make heaps of brands), never been let down
@@GamersNexus definitely look into SuperFlower, they went from the "EVGA" PSU you get on the cheap, to the PSU you get when you're "a man of culture..." and want the best :-b
Had 2 Cougar branded PSUs explode in the past. Avoid like the plague.
I appreciate these PSU benchmarks. Ive always looked for and recommended seasonic psus because they have never given me trouble.
Again, this set is awesome!
I caught a EVGA G3 550 last year for 40 dollars. I see PSUs have gone back up to normal prices since the start of the year.
Same but got a g6 650.
@@Cxs1a3 The G3 is better than a G6(even though it is a seasonic unit). They are Superflower Leadex units, things of legend :)
I really needed and waited for this for a long time because it's so hard to find good reviews on these.
Because the reviews range widely from using it safely for 10 years to I build myself a homemade explosive for less than a 100 dollars.
Would love to see a more complete list next with like 100 or so power supplies which are the truely best budget powersupplies including some Chinese brands aswell
love it! we need more!
I would be really interested to see how power spec (microcenter in house brand) power supplies do. Micro center tends to be a go to among the community if there is access to one so they seem like something a lot of people might think about.
Yeah, but here, he's testing PSUs that are actually available worldwide, not only in US, so it may be interesting for US viewers , but not EU viewers.
@@t3amb4sh They are available on amazon and other resellers as well.
Also I think the value is there because microcenter has been sponsor and a recommended merchant from most tech youtubers. So testing out their products is a way to keep relationships balanced and give the viewers a valid comparison.
Like everyone else THANK YOU for this PSU work. My house has 4 gamers and since those systems are older I have had to replace several PSU's lately. ALL of them were sourced from EVGA and its the one thing that scares me the most about building. (done about 6-7 system builds now) There is so much noise on this subject it makes it hard to really get a grip on what is important and what we should be looking for. To be honest I care less about efficiency rather I care about component longevity and don't want to see my 80$-200$ PSU take out my 4000$ system because it had a bad day. Again love your work and thank you for helping to make this hobby better for everyone.
This! This, is the reason I chose to support GN on Patreon, back when Steve said they were starting to investigate PSU-testing. I my oppinion, I think this is the absolute most important component of your system and until now, horrible underrepresentated in YT-review channel reviews... as far as I know...
I'm very much looking forward to see future videos and this was a very good start!
Thanks Steve and team - my Patreon money have never been wasted - but now it's perfect! (though I'm very curious what you'll do next in terms of upping the level of testing hardware on YT!)
More of this please! Thanks for everything you do!
I think it would be interesting to see some of the SUPER low end, no name brand PSUs. I know they are garbage and would never use one, but I have always wondered how garbage and dangerous they are. Might make for a good meme episode.
This or the generic PSU's that typically come with prebuilds.
Hopefully editor Patrick Stone is physically and mentally prepared for another barrage of exploding PSU after the bunch of Gigabyte ones.
Right after they get new life insurance policies.
They can use the explosions to help Jay make a new ifixit video
@@reignman30 They could test all of the ones from the prebuilts they got
Wow its like you are looking at my amazon browsing history, except actually purchasing the items to review!
Glad to see this. It will make PSU picking so easy once you get more and more data.
I bought a SeaSonic FOCUS PX 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply. I just want the reassures that this is a good unit. So if you test this I would be delighted.
Love the channel and the professionalism applied to everything you do. Keep up the excellent work.
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I'd like to see the EVGA units made by Super Flower compared to the newer EVGA units made by FSP. Right now I'd rather go to newegg (yep) and buy a Super Flower as opposed to one of the newer EVGA P3, P6, or G5 units.
EVGA Super flower G2, P2, T2 have the lowest ripple
💪Super Flower
The G6 models are a good return to form for EVGA, they are a seasonic unit and are better than the Superflowers in some ways (just becuase they are a 5 year newer design) but don't quite match the legendary ripple levels of the G2, however they are still very good and a hell of a lot better than the FSP units.
Great job guys, the addition of noise/fan levels and thermals will be great.
Would also love to see the addition of SFX testing as well. Would love to see if your sacrificing efficiency when going to a smaller form factor.
Thanks for helping me fix gaps in my knowledge I had no idea PSU's had different efficacies at different draws. I also recently watched the Liquid cooler Videos and I was under the Impression that the closed loop coolers were 100% liquid I didn't know they had a air bubble to worry about! Thanks for your hard work :)
Would love to see some be quiet series tested. Personally have a Straight Power 11 750W in use that I have no idea how good or bad it actually is.
I, too, use the be quiet PSU's since 2011. Have a Pure Power 11 550W in my mini-server and a dark power 12 850W in my personal build
It's in the top bracket of quality modern PSUs. You purchased wisely!
Just a heads up: Although 750W is enough power for any available GPU (bar the new 3090 Ti), high-end 30 series cards such as the RTX 3090 can trip the Over Current Protection (OCP) in some games. Also known to occur with some 850W PSUs and many Seagate units, even though they are of high quality. This has to do with the 'high-transient loads/spikes' of high-end RTX 30 series cards, which could momentarily push the PSU over the thresholds and trip the protections. At a maximum, an RTX 3080 (320W) SHOULD be fine for your unit, though YMMV. Anything below that wattage, including an RX 6900XT and below, should work well and for years to come. Two friends of mine have Enermax Revolution DF 850W (excellent PSUs) in their systems. One has a 3080 Ti from Zotac which has had no issues thus far, however the other has a reference RTX 3090, which needed a small undervolt not to crash with COD: CW/Warzone.
@Turkey Jeff sounds like you have enough information for all of us 😂
It should be tier 1. Your at the best tier.
I build and repair a ton of PCs at work and these are some of my most reliable PSUs: Fractal Design Ion+ 660P, EVGA 650 P5, be quiet! Straight Power 11 650W, and the Seasonic FOCUS PX-650. I'd love to see a head-to-head test against these good platinum ~650W units as I think they are the best for most use cases.
It's always great to see more coverage of power supplies, and so I really appreciate what you're doing here. One thing I really hope you do take a look at is some of the budget EVGA units; EVGA does not send any of their budget units to reviewers, so given your resources, I'm hoping that you may be able to shed more light on them. This is especially true given how popular they tend to be. They all claim to have the full suite of protections, but as you pointed out, protections don't matter if they aren't set reasonably. I look forward to other protections being tested in the future as well.
There is already one of them in this video. Did you have another one you wanted us to specifically look at?
@@GamersNexus One of the supernova series (GT, G6,GA,P6 all similar price range).
@@GamersNexus Also some be quiet PSUs (pure,straight power).
@@paulf1557 had one of the be quite straight power 11s fail after like 2 months and be quite refused to provide a shipping label to send it in even though it fails freaking fast had to spend 30 shipping it in.
@@GamersNexus The BR and BP, mainly. Essentially the "lower end than BQ/B5 but still independently regulated" units. Honestly rather difficult to keep track of, since they have so many SKUs. They appear for such a low price so often, they claim a full suite of protections... but at the same time, there isn't really any information on it, aside from a teardown of the BR which raises more questions than it answers.
Regardless of what you test, I'm really happy that you are getting into power supplies. This is a component that gets overlooked so often, so it's great to have people such as yourself dispelling a lot of the misconceptions that people have.
I'd love if over time y'all could compare PSUs from a single manufacturer to determine if in fact brand recognition as it relates to PSUs is a thing. It'd be pretty cool to determine that no matter the PSU standard or output if perhaps one brand consistently delivered across the spectrum. Thanks for tackling a new component! Love your channel, and I share it with others all the time.
Great video. Really interesting to see tests on PSUs. I'd like to see the NZXT C750 80+ Gold PSU in future videos
Based on my experience building PCs for others, corsairs RMX series from 2019 and 2021 are pretty popular. I also tend to steer my clients to seasonic focus gold power supplies since they're usually cheaper, smaller, and have flat cables as well which makes building with them easier
So excited to see a PSU addition to the reviews. Was considering an 850 watt PSU for my build and was considering a Corsair RM850X supply. Would be awesome to see a review on this unit
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Honestly you can never go wrong with seasonic IMO as they are specialized in power supplies. I have asus PSU but if I remember correctly, it's actually made by seasonic. And it's been working really well. Seems like very high quality to me.
differences between psus from one line. for example be quiet! pure power vs. straight power vs. dark power.
in general i would like to see some be quiet! psus tested.
i get the feeling this channel is getting to the point where it is the most educational in pc building out there. even better: companys can finally be held responsible and a lot of good changes already occured in the industry because of this channel. i love it.
I would love to see Antec, Gamdias and Super flower PSU's tested.
I'm using a super flower 650 watt in my son's gaming machine. It's been fantastic so far for about 6 months. Running a 5800x with an rtx 3060. I snagged that psu when it was on sale on newegg 45 dollars. Was a crazy value. Fully modular, 85+.
I too would love to see how Super Flower holds up. I've built 3 pcs all of them I bought Super Flower for and have had zero issues. Also recommended to friends.
SuperFlower make their own and other peoples PSUs, historically theyve been pretty good.
Gamdias psus are andyson units, would be nice to have more info on their platforms so definitely!
The depth of their testing is actually incredible
First I just wanted to say this is awesome. I thought your brief explanations of concepts like power factor, and voltage ripple and droop were great given how little time you spent on it.
A change I think would be cool to see would be to demonstrate efficiency, ripple, and power factor over load from 2-100% expressed as a line graph. I think it would be neat to see the slopes. I understand this could probably take a long time though having tested very large solid state power supplies for industrial applications myself.
Keep up the good work. Videos like this help keep me sharp during my hiatus in working with electronics.
Thank you for the great content. One think I feel like can be added to the great set of tests is how the PSUs react to instant load changes. Especially of modern GPUs like the 30xx series' power spikes.
I have a couple of ideas for your consideration:
- Seeing that they are flooding the market, it would be interesting to see how the cheaper end perform, namely offerings from Redragon, Gamdias, Cougar...etc. I am hoping to see a hidden gem amongst these brands and how well they can communicate if they have a faulty unit.
- CoolerMaster MWE series. They served me well over the years, but in my experience they have not-so-good fans - also offerings from Antec, Bitfenix, TT.
- The lesser known Corsair offerings like CV and CS series. Should we really stay away from them?
- Aorus AP750 and AP850, GN displays the unit in case reviews, and I bought one myself because of that - aside from the obvious reason that the market in my country back in 2020 had no good PSUs offered and everything was out of stock.
- Speaking of bad PSU fans, while I understand there are a million videos explaining how to disassemble a PSU and change the fan, maybe film one or two videos on how to do that - for the uninitiated? And when the benchmark chart is built and converged, maybe note if there is a unit with some weird or proprietary things we need to take care of - like an unusual fan measurement or some case locking mechanism that prevents repair or just makes it a hell lot more harder?
- Fan specs - if a PSU fan needs to be changed, what kind or what are the specs of that PSU fan? Can we get away with slapping a generic fan and call it a day or does it have to be a high end one with certain air pressure spec?
Cougar isn't historically a "cheaper" brand like the others you listed. They were almost as big as Antec. I don't know how they are today, but they used to make top tier parts.
@@alexskywalker888 Cougar were pretty variable for a while, their top-end unit the GX1050 was freaking great though. I believe both them, LEPA and Enermax had the same owner for a while (HEC Compucase, an OEM that makes PSUs mostly for medical equipment with their own branding)
you bought the exploding Gigabyte PSUs? After all those eps? MWE are also trash, along with TT Litepower (you dont mention them but yeah).
@@mycosys nope, I bought the Aorus not the exploding P series - supposed to be a different design or third party manufacturer, and I did that in 2020 back when the market in my country either had these or the AX1200, and I am not putting a 1200W CPU in an R5 3600 + 1660S build. So far it has been serving me quite well and I am running way below the limits.
MWE series, back in the day I ran a 500W (or was it 600W?) version of that on an OC'd Q6600 to 3.4GHz for a number of years and it ran fine, the fan needed replacement though...
@@alexskywalker888 I really hope they're still good. They have a lot of relatively cheaper offerings here in my country, and it would be a definite breath of fresh air if Cougar still turned out to be great for those prices.
Would love to see most of the EVGA low-mid range PSUs since they're usually all extremely popular especially in australia
This would be a good thing to do. The majority of them are Andyson units which is a very average oem. They have never been applauded for their quality, but they are a step or two up from total trash.
Glad to see this. in depth reviews and hard data with your usual broad tests and thoroughness is appreciated as reliable data on PSU's is hard to find. Would love to see the possible Hero/Dogs in this price range, I have included the Amazon description to a contender of a great surprise or expected disappointment with price and review numbers so you can see for yourself why I thought to myself. Hmm...I wonder. (edited as the toob removed all html and links)
Power Supply 600W Semi Modular 80+ Bronze, GAMEMAX VP-600-RGB(Modular)
4.5 out of 5 - 4,283 Reviews
$46.24
i love the super dark, high contrast film set. looks so nice 👍👍
Seasonic always seems to be the "can't go wrong" option, would be interesting to see how well the S12ii (much older) or s12iii perform compared to the competition.
Seasonic actually produces psu. Other brands in the video outsources their psu design and production to vendors like Seasonic. Seasonic used to produce all EVGA's psu till EVGA now sourced its cheaper units to other vendors.
Been using Seasonic for years, their stuff is solid. I mean they only produce PSU's and quality ones at that, bad PSU's would literally kill their brand.
Yeah seasonic is more reputable but they don't have as many psus. I think every brand has at least one crap psu. But most brands psus like corsair, evga, msi, and so on use either cwt or seasonic. Most of those are good
The older S12II/M12II models are not recommened for new builds at all since they cant regulate voltage rails independently, and with the current deep sleep CPU states you would get crossloads that could put them in a bad situation, they also lack modern protection features afaik.
s12iii if you are not luky it can burn your component
A roundup of SFX PSUs would be pretty great to see as a lot of cases are offering the option of using an SFX or ATX PSU like the NR200.
I have an EVGA BQ 600 in my system for over 5 years now it has worked extremely well zero issues and powering a lot of hardware, an M2, an SSD, + 3 3TB HDs, it's quiet and solid.
Had the Corsair CX750 in my case for well over 5 yrs..
still going!!...
PPs great show dudes..
Hi Steve. When I was putting my current system together, I looked for the most upvoted PSU in my country (Egypt). Needless to say, given the financial state here, the most important aspect in any product is basically value for money. After a very long search I went with the Bitfenix Whisper 750 80+Gold Modular PSU. It has not been a bad experience so far, but am really curious on how such a decently priced product (at least where I live) puts up against competition. I have also paired it with a Bitfenix Case (Dawn TG) as it was one of the very few cases that would support a 280mm AIO (X62 in this case that I bought based on your recommendations). Thanks so much for such a fantastic effort that's put for the sake of the consumer in this pretty huge industry that would be otherwise much more confusing. Cheers.
I'd love to see more EVGA PSUs, especially the new "5" series (B5/G5) that is replacing the famous B3/G3 series. Would love to see the difference and/or why EVGA went from the 3 to 5 series.
Also there really high end stuff would be cool, to see what you really get from a $700 PSU.
I went overkill on my EVGA GQ+ 1000w. Wanted to keep my 5800X and 3070TI fed, and keep it for future uses. I enjoy what I've experienced from EVGA.
@@DeathWishes677 problem is, even if you have enough high quality power, the plug standards are changing with 16-pin plugs which don't exist on anything but the newest PSUs.
@@DeathWishes677 good call. That should protect you from transient loads (peak power usage) on your gpu and not shut down like 750 and 850 watt units tend to do with rtx 30 and 40 series.
When using higher end parts, it's best to over provision your power supply to keep peak wattage from tripping opp on psus.
Have any idea if the evga supernova GS 650w version is good nowadays?
Love what you guys do.
Would love to see some reviews of flex power supplies. No one seems to talk much about them, and the ones that do it’s hard to know whether it’s an actual, objective review.
I love that you still use what is basically my system in some shots (MSI Z170A and MSI GTX1080), Paired with what I think was an under rated PSU at the time (ANTEC Edge 650) - 6 years ago!, with the red rubber edging of course. NLA for a good while now I think.
Thank you for the detailed video once again. Here in Greece , the top user purchase is the Be Quiet System Power 9 600W Full Wired 80 Plus Bronze. I'd really like to see it up on that list. Also , even if its not that popular , i would like to see the SHARKOON ATX SHP 80 PLUS BRONZE 500W cause ive used it on low budget gaming pcs and never 'failed' (its only 30-35€ new) keep up the good work ! Cheers from sunny Greece
Decent PSUs, though the 230V versions are slightly lesser. A good choice for a mid-range system and overall ranks just below the Corsair CX-650/CX-650M in this video.
Great stuff! I would be interested in noise levels at typical loads (e.g. you mentioned 60% load as a typical gaming load ).
EDIT: It's particularly interesting in SFX modules I might add, because sff builds oftentimes stand on your desk and are thus perceived as louder at same noise output. My own (mostly) silent PC has a Corsair SF600 Gold built in, which is silent at idle but with some workloads becomes the loudest part in it (still very quiet, but noticable). I would have paid the extra 20 € for the SF600 Platinum, which is supposed to be quieter at loads, if I would have known beforehand.
Keep up the good work. Data is the future, as much as I fear that, you do it well.
Please give us a guide for high end PSU's for the next gen GPU's that may require the likes of 850+.
Still rocking Corsair OG RM850 for over 7 years. Woot woot.
Cheers!
This will be a much-appreciated series, guaranteed. I want to suggest some lesser-known brands as alternatives (such as Riotoro) for review!
I've been using Powerspec PSU's from Micro Center for years, probably over a dozen builds. Never had one die. Would be interesting to see those tested.
I mean, PSUs were always so hard to choose. I always just kept going back to EVGA but I also always considered and recommended corsair and Seasonic ones. But that was always based on a blind belief their units are of a good quality. I can't really say I even understand the differences is their product stacks, especially EVGAs, like there's so many different "X amount of power, B something PSU like 650 b5, 650bq, 650bw, 650b, 650b2, some are BR... Etc, etc" and that exists for all tiers, it's so confusing. So I'd really want to ask you guys to help us on that matter, test as many PSUs as possible and maybe run an online Google docs chart? So we can reference all the tested models and maybe make sense of how the product lines work for the different manufacturers? Like maybe EVGA b2 PSUs are good bronze PSUs but the b5 range is not? Or the corsair cx is nice but maybe the vx isn't or something like that.
My Corsair CX600 that I've bought with the Sandy Bridge platform is still kicking.
(But I do not recommend keeping the PSU for so long)
Fantastic you guys started with power supplies 👏 . Excellent choice of units to start off. Can't wait for all the great reviews coming.
Information I would really appreciate knowing is what bearing type the fan uses and for how many hours its rated. A psu is often used for many years over several builds and a fan failure is often not as noticible compared to a case fan. For that reason I personally only consider psu's with a FDB bearing.
Units I would like to see reviewed are the BeQuiet Straight Power, something from Thermaltake, a Cooler Master unit and the Fractal Ion+ 2. That last one should have overcome the low load problems of the tested Fractal. Also uses overall better components so it would be intresting to see if the better performance is worth the higher costs.
Getting the noise in the equation as soon as possible is vital. With the higher quality psu's you will get over the board excellent results but the noise output can still vary dramatically. Also having chosen your components carefully with a silent case, fans, cpu cooler a relatively noisy psu can really ruin your build, I learned that the hard way.
Good luck you guys, I'm really excited with whats to come.
Thank you for giving such a succinct yet clear explanation on power factor. I finally understand what it's about now, beyond "closer to 1 = gud" :-)
You guys should also measure the fan noise of these, load normalized.
PSU fan is the loudest unit in my rig and I have 8 fans(2 120mm for GPU, case fan swapped, 2 120mm forCPU, 3 140mm and 1 120mm for case) exclude PSU fan. Having semi passive mode PSU absolutely helps.
Signed. It's anecdotal, but around 2012 got a Corsair CX which shortly after developed unbearable fan bearing noise. Sent it for an rma, got the replacement, after a couple of weeks same fan bearing noise. Said "screw it", got a Seasonic which to this day is powering my second system and is dead silent.
@@D4L41L4M4 Mine was a 500w not even 80+ bronze certified unit and that thing was freaking loud. I didn't notice it being that loud until I start swapping out each fans in my case with Arctic fans.
I got a 850w EVGA G5 which was made by FSP, that PSU has passive mode so fan only kicks in at 20% load. But the moment it kicks in it's multiple times louder than my entire system.
I RMAed that thing and got the exact same problem so they upgraded mine into a G6 which is a Seasonic unit. The passive fan now kicks in at 40% and I've never reached that load so can't test out if that'll happen.
I'd love to see you review Microcenter's store brand Powerspec. I've had few of them, and price to performance has impressed me. I did have to RMA one, but I got that done within a couple hours of putting in a ticket and exchanging it in store.
I would like to see the Coolermaster MasterWatt PSU added to this list! Steve and team, awesome work as always!
That exploding PSU footage never gets old!
I want to see a comparison of the mid-range gold modular units. Some examples from CWT include the Corsair RM and RMx, Thermaltake GF1 and MSI AGF. Cooler Master's V Gold V2 line is also a good shout. Finally, the likes of Silverstone and Seasonic who brand their own PSUs.
I'd be particularly interested in seeing how Seasonics Focus Plus line compares to their vanilla Focus line - the 650w model seemed like a fantastic deal compared to other platinum-rated PSUs when I bought one.
Glad you guys are doing these. Ever since Jonny Guru stopped reviewing, I've been sad. Yeah, I'm old. Long live Oklahoma Wolf!
This is a fantastic video for when I want to buy a new PSU. The overall testing is fantastic and the efficiency of all of the power suppplies were rock solid. I would like to see 80 Plus Platinum and Titanium power supplies at some point so as to whether it makes sense to buy them. The other power supply I would like to see is the FSP dual power supply as well. The concept of a dual 500 watt or a dual 700 watt power supply sound like a unique concept for power supply testing.
Id really like to see something from the EVGA Supernova GA series. It seems a great value leader at gold+, 10 year warranty, and fully modular. Also quite compact for output.
Great video! I would like to see these top tier power supplies face off:
-Corsair RM1000x
-Corsair HX1000
-BitFenix Whisper 850w
-Main Gear Ignition 1000w
I am especially interested in the Main Gear PSU.
If I'm right, Corsair buys most of their psu components from Seasonic, which has a 10 year warranty. I just purchaced a Seasonic 850 , haven't got it yet. From what I understand, they are the goat. Love to have feedback. Ciao.
@@chefdeth7993 Corsair does get some/most of their components from Seasonic since they are the premier psu supplier.
I ended up buying the BitFenix Whisper M 850w and am running a 6950xt OC and a 5950x. Basically my setup calls for a 1,000w psu but it's running perfectly with an 850w psu.
Bitfenix whisper is my recommendation for sure!
Multiple PSU brands I've used over the years, until I got my first Seasonic back in 2018. Still having it and it works perfect.
Excellent review. Filling a huge gap as there are no such comparisons out there!
*EVGA G2 550:* I wish that it was still available, along with the rest of the EVGA / Super Flower line. The G2 / P2 / T2 models offer EVGA support with Super Flower reliability. They are great units.
i ran the 550 g2 in my rig until about 4 days ago. it was amazing even while pushing it to its limits
Got a 750G2, bomb proof. At least EVGA have gone back to a good OEM (Seasonic) with the g6 models and stopped using FSP (G5) who are not good enough at this price point.
@@maflarson1988 I love pushing my PSU to the limit too. With that being said, future Lovelace has me thinking about proactively upgrading from my EVGA T2 1000 to the T2 1600.
I love these reviews. What I would like to see next is higher wattage PSU's over 1000W and even 1600W, given the high power consumption of newer upcoming cards, (RTX 4xxx) and even current RTX 3**** cards that can draw up to 500W. Also mining plays a huge part in current days and highly efficient PSU's make a lot of sense for long term investors.The current price jump of energy, at least here in the EU is not helping either. Keep it up guys! Big thumbs up all the way from Romania!
As someone who have been building PCs for more than 25 years, I would love to see the "80+ white - W1 and W2" models from EVGA.
Where I live those are basically the best seller budget PSU.
They are also the only known brand selling around this part at that price point. Of course I would also like the top tiers from Corsair, Seasonic, Enermax, DeepCool and Cougar.
Thank you!!!
Please take a look at the bequiet system power 9 line of PSUs
Decent PSUs, though the 230V versions are slightly lesser. A good choice for a mid-range system and overall ranks just below the Corsair CX-650/CX-650M in this video.