Need For Speed Payback - LV399 BMW M3 E46 GTR Performance is a disgrace to MostWanted 2005
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2018
- June 19th has finally updated all cars to have the LV299 cap removed and now can be fully upgraded to LV399, including the BMW M3 E46. With the Most Wanted body style and livery, finally we can experience the BMW M3 GTR's full potential.... of disappointment. It's a bit unfortunate that it's performance is just average.
Played with keyboard, manual transmission.
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Timeline:
0:06 - Mountain Run V2, Sprint Race
2:02 - Fortune Valley Railway, Online Casual Speedlist Race
4:28 - Bait Crate Police Ambush
7:15 - Bridge Trial, Time Trial
10:23 - LV399 stats, performance and speedcards
LV399 BMW M3 E46 GTR Race spec Performance review:
As the title says, it's not going to beat 911 RSRs, Regeras, Volkswagen Beetle and even the old BMW M3 E30.
The overall drifting style is very heavy and you will need to use the handbrake. It's overall drifting speed is good but you will lose a lot of speed if the angle gets large. At low and medium speed, it does have a decent drift angle but as you get faster, it becomes shallow and limited which requires you to use the brakes mid-drift. It's similar to the Lamborghini Murcielago except the Murcielago is a bit more responsive. The M3 E46 does have good drift recovery speed.
It's overall acceleration is average at best unfortunately, both engine acceleration and NOS power. The combination of average acceleration and cornering makes this car... average among the other cars and the lap time on Mountain Run shows that too.
Soundtrack:
MW 2005 OST - We Control
NFS The Run Instrumental - The Limit
MW 2005 OST - Most Wanted mashup
MW 2005 OST - You Must Follow
MW 2005 - B-Side wins again Игры
Obligatory MR V2 Leaderboard comment:
1: BMW M3 E30, 1:14.65
2: Pagani Huayra BC, 1:15.26
3: Lamborghini Huracan, 1:15.71
4: 1965 Ford Mustang, 1:16.06
5: Lamborghini Murcielago SV, 1:16.90
6: McLaren 570S, 1:17.08
7: Ford Mustang GT, 1:17.09
8: Aston Martin Vulcan, 1:17.17
9: Porsche 911 GT3 RS, 1:17.19
10. BMW M3 E46, 1:17.48
11: Lamborghini Diablo SV, 1:17.51
12: Eddie's Nissan Skyline R 34 GT-R, 1:17.68
13: McLaren P1, 1:17.72
14: Nissan Skyline 2000 GT-R, 1:18.19
15: BMW F90 M5 AWD, 1:18.30
16: Lamborghini Aventador, 1:18.40
17: Aston Martin DB5, 1:18.67
18: Aston Martin DB11, 1:19.21
19: Pontiac Firebird Trans Am, 1:20.18
20: Land Rover Range Rover Sport SVR, 1:22.54
Lotus EnduroGT at least the E46 is in the top 10... beaten by a E30... which is 1 on the leaderboard makes sense
Hopefully the Regera and RSR get done again.
Lotus EnduroGT where did you find that information
Frost Fags well this is nfs, from what we’ve seen through videos and this youtuber point of view, is that nfs decides which car is fast, average and slow. Pretty much pointless unless you play flopza or penalty simulator or PC or AC to actually practice your skills with those long bmws.
I just hope that all cars would be equal fast..
Why you lose races :
0.1% The other drivers are pros
99.9% Everybody rams everyone and use Regera and 911 RSR
Samsung Tab 3 too true
If only I didn't have morals I would spin every fuck that rams me. Bunch of dickheads.
ReGAYras and Rip-off Beetles in this game.
What ?
Lightning Gamer what the fuck do you mean
old soundtracks still fits a lot better than new ones
Играю в Payback с саундтреком на RUclips в фоне - играется лучше
Трамвай Валера not really in this setting
i agree, i had to disable music because every single song in this game is trash. songs that play when drifting are good though
Because back then they actually listened and cared about the soundtrack. Nowadays they just put some random dubstep or electro music in everything.
Because songs sucks today.
Critics on the M3 GTR sound:
Payback : *We won’t forgive you for this*
Heat : *Apology accepted*
In payback there isn't an m3 gtr, there are only the regular e46's with gtr body kits
3:28 edit more like a psych out
when u troll libtard epic style
That takedown means this M3 is a real legend of nfs.
lostrider99 robledo burnout style? I didn't see the Koenigsegg veer violently to the left.
That wasnt evens takedown. It was just straight up suicide
That's because it's not an M3 GTR. It's just a regular M3 with a cheap bodykit. The M3 GTR has a P60B40 V8 engine built specially for it, whereas the regular M3 has a fairly common S54B32 in-line engine.
I'm impressed that they at least added the side exhaust as an option though. Now we just need the wheels and wing to make a convincing-ish replica.
Dog of Wisdom it doesn't matter does it have v8 or not this is need for speed it doesn't go that fast in real life new bmw should be much faster in this game
Nerd lol
Jk
are you telling me that the M3 GTR wouldn't go fast in real life?
dude that thing's a pure bred race car, it was completely meant to go fast
OrdinaryMagician the real one doesn't go 0-100 in 1.89 seconds and it doesn't go 1/4 mile in 8.4 secs
Loki lol nice
Ok, I'm not sure where this rumors about this so called "abandoned M3 GTR" came from, but I'm going to address this.
There is no BMW M3 GTR in the files and database. There is no indication of a completely different M3 GTR in the files. It's going to be just the same M3 E46 with the Most Wanted Skin. The current abandoned car at this time is a Land Rover defender with a wrap. That's it. It's the same with Eddie's R34 Skyline, it handles exactly like a normal R34 with a wrap. Keep in mind they also did the same thing with NFS 2015 deluxe edition, where they gave you a BMW M3 E46 with a skin. No performance or sound changes.
So unless you can find concrete evidence of the M3 GTR's existence in the files with new engine sound, physics and model, stop believing in rumors and use it as an excuse to defend Ghost Game's poor balancing. Whether it's a real or fake M3 GTR is irrelevant when the BMW M3 E30, an old Porsche and a Volkswagen Beetle is as fast as a Koenigsegg Regera in this game.
IsuckAtDriving (MSWGR) I really hope though that it will be the real m3 gtr
DD dorsett The Ford GT GTE Its not lmao it would be pointless for EA to put a mere E46 as an abondoned car with an unique wrap. They fooled the players in 2015. The fanbase will rape EA if they do the same this time. There arw tons of unique wraps in the community. Theres no point of putting an E46 as an abondoned car.. its already in the base game, 399, and has tons of customization and wraps. Even if the gtr would be 1% id still take it over the base model because of the sound and feeling
Adem Farron it’s just the regular E46. There’s no indication of the GTR existing in the files or anything. It’s just a livery on the GTR bodykit and that’s all. Any time they add new cars in Payback, it’s behind a paywall, which would be the case for the M3 GTR.
Brawltendo Let me stop you there. The abandoned cars that we got at the start of the abandoned cars, they were FREE. You didn't need to pay money for those, and they were brand new cars that they had added to the game at that time. Do a little more research before rambling that ALL new cars are blocked via paywall.
IsuckAtDriving (MSWGR) did you do all Chidori parts, and turn on stability control, then set the downforce and steering sensitivity accordingly? If not, that's where your problem lies. Ya gotta tune the sucker in order to get it to how you want it.
5:57 nice one
I feel like it was a lot harder to go 200+mph in mw and carbon, and that made it so much more rewarding when you finally were able to upgrade a car to achieve those speeds
To be fair it is kind of the same story with Rivals.
Yeah. In MW you need max upgrades for a car to get to 200+ mph
I dont mind, those games had teirs for cars in payback you can mod even beginner cars to reach crazy speeds
@@TheV8Pumpkin you can do the same in every NFS with upgrading options.
@@TheV8Pumpkin In older NFS games could upgrade a punto to levels where it would neg maxxed out mercis and carreras.
Heck NFSU2 ricers could clock 230 mph lmfao.
Handling was insane in m3 gtr on most wanted 2005. Shame :-;
OUCHIExDAxEL1TE well Black Box didn't make payback now did they?! the handling here is still impressive for a Frostbite Ghost game.
Handling in new NFSs it is a lame, I don't know why you need to drift on every corner, such a bs
@@ramuji. thats the most fun part tf
OUCHIExDAxEL1TE and you know what funny the m3 gtr from most wanted 2012 was a beast too!
No matter what the handling its easy to control if you practiced alot lmao
3:28 Gymnastics Regera strikes again
4:33
Oh, that is so in sync... I love it!
(For those wondering, the music is Paul Linford ft. Chris Vrenna - The Mann)
A buddy of mine is building the M3 GTR replica. Hes converting his normal E46 M3 to the GTR widebody kit and custom 2/3 piece wheel.
And yes he has plans for a BMW V8 S62B50 engine swap. Straight cut gears, racing fuel cell, roll cage, Brembo big brake kits.
He already done the side pipe exhaust and GT Wing.
Look up Andre Klebleyev on youtube.
Originally, he was considering an LS3, though I told him that's Cross' Engine. XD
Yall actually friends? For real?
Dr. Stan16 yes i'm also a Patreon as well.
Lin Chester that's cool. Good luck to the dude though. Car's looking fine so far and he looks like he knows what he's doing.
Dr. Stan16 pls support his work. He now moving to phase 2 with a better looking bodykit.
I miss the straight cut gear engine sound of the bmw
What have they done this monster of car , they have striped it of it's former pride and power..
Mr. l33t hax0r i feel your pain
Mr. l33t hax0r it's not a GTR tho??
its also missing what makes it the best vehicle, the engine sound
There's apparently a second M3 E46 found in the files so maybe that one is faster
NeotheDarkspine Really that's surprising
you have no idea how much i like youre videos
Amazing run, I wanna see you play more online races
I like how he linked most wanted instead of payback in the discription
A lot of the handling problems are caused by the poor translation from 299 to 399. The handling characteristics of most 299 cars were not meant to work at higher speeds, which is why they all seem heavier than the original 399 cars. The S2K and the new Civic are the only ones that I’ve noticed have decent handling after being uncapped. Don’t even bother with the Q60S because it was already a boat at 299 and it’s not any better now lol. Also that two wheeler at 7:46 hahaha
EDIT: You might wanna try out the hidden “player” variant of the cop and see if you can make some use of it somehow because it’s complete dogshit.
I've tried NSX it's also decent but not 911 RSR level. Such a shame really, kinda wish modders handle the balancing.
I noticed that, BMW M2, Golf GTI CS, and A45 all of them seem to drift heavily, but again. I havent played this game since multiplayer lobby was soaked with E30 or Porsche OP 911
IsuckAtDriving (MSWGR) domt see how these should be diferent honestly what your saying is you want a honda civic to perform like a regera
Hey everyone! I know this car isn't as good as the MW version, but...
Just go in for Speed, Acceleration and Nitrous Speed Cards when upgrading this car. Thats the closest you'll get to the actual beast. Trust me, I beat Supernova with that, and you'll outrun the Corvette cops with no problem! Just make sure that you have good nitrous and acceleration.
Still can't fix the handling tho.
You think thats heavy try the challenger that thing turns like a tank when going around corners
nice driving as always
Omg great video bro...brings back memories! :)
Hey but keep in mind that the m3 was in it's gtr style and not the normal one besides this m3 is like 2015 where it's just the body kit while in 2005 it was the actual racing one with one seat and mostly roll cages so I'm fine with this one being average
Cavacia Miles tell that to the millennials of the original most wanted, though I do agree with you. Ghost really did work with what they had.
You're back!
U r an excellent controller of cars...fabulous...awsome driving brothr..
👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻❤️❤️
They have messed with once upon a time favorite car
Rex Music Rex just relax it's not the actual gtr just a body kit so they didn't entirely mess it up
that sound
Do you think its likely any of the previously 299 locked cars will be competitive with the RSR, Regera, Beetle and E30?
I'm slowly testing them all!
Maybe the Acura can damage RSR's territory
IsuckAtDriving (MSWGR) Good to know :) Keep up all the quality content.
First thing i did was max out the wrx sti for offroad, working on the skyline now.
From what I've seen so far (in terms of doing an off-road Ford Focus) it doesn't seem like it. There might be diamonds in the rough but it is a lot of cars and with this car being amongst the most popular there aren't many that can hold such titles.
Dunno about race spec cars,but Drift spec BRZ is awesome,it certainly could give RX7 and Huracan run for their money.
We used to go to war on the crew PVP this guy is a beast at driving!
Awesome driving 🤯
This car is AWesome,introduced in NFS MW but still in action after 13 yrs.
prashant saraswat yes.....nfs most wanted is the unforgettable game.......nyzz story nyzz game.....💖💖💖
2:18 I recognize that Mustang from Shift 2 Unleashed! I didn't think anyone knew or cared about that game!
An Anonymous Spectator i care
An Anonymous Spectator Oh shit! ahahaha
That is one of my favorite nfs game's
An Anonimous Spectator This is Ford Mustang Boss 302 with kit RTR-X and wrap. This car also was in Nfs World and The Run
HeroManNickBG Gaming After watching some videos, I realized that. I mentioned Shift 2 because that was when I first saw the car, and at the time I didn’t know that it was a real car that had appeared in other NFS games.
I'm going to play nfs mw '05 on pc now, great video btw. :) 👍
Doesn't matter how many of your videos I've seen. I can't get over your username. You really do devastate!
even tho the m3 has not a great performance but still they need to bring back the crying sound of the bmw m3
If you mean the whining of the sequential transmission, it's there. It's just really quite compared to the original car.
Fosty リバティーウォーク well in this game you expect an In-Line 6 E46, not the V8. EA will have to get a license for that car.
I just can't understand why ppl think it's the gtr when it's not trust me and I agree on the sound as well
Aaron James Nabua Maybe they will. In the game data films there is a bmw titled with the file name " bmw razor " so maybe we get an abondoned car as the bmw m3 gtr. The sound comes from straight cut gears
Bob Boobenski its not really the whining the GTR had. That is the whining of straight cut gears.
The main reason I don't like new NFS games is : straight road.
Remember the old racing games where you should have really pull the breaks to have a successful turn?, NFS games like Underground, Most wanted,Carbon, Undercover,Prostreet.
They had a lot more interesting maps,where you have sharp turns,thin streets and wide roads,a big variety of environment. And now you only have a bigass road with almost no turns,the sharpest turn you can ride at 150 mph,that's disappointing...
That initial song..... Brings back memories.
That first race was probably one of the best things I've ever seen in my life...
When you realize NFS wasn't about drifting corners ;_;
They're being tryhard copying the legendary Initial D
Look how they've massacred my boy
That's not even your boy
@@Otherface *our boy*
@@pulstr_12 exacly
Remember guys, this is e46 aka road legal version required for the bmw to enter a race. For those saying the GTR variant is weak and slow, remember that the engine is NA, not soup up with turbo and shit. V8, 4.0.
Music brings back memory’s
3:29 Karma
B R E A K I N G N E W S
Razor is unimpressed
ST 5600 it's not razors car it's your car basically razor just took the car by cheating the race
Cavacia Miles isn't your character Ryan Cooper through most of the m3 gtr's story
Ryan Cooper isn´t the MW 2005 MC
Razor can suck it... He cheated his ass off and still lost XD
I’m surprised you didn’t play “Shapeshifter” since that would be the BMW theme in MW2005
I like your gamertag, sick lol
Could someone explain to me the problem? It looks like it was fairly fast and got into a respectable position for the sprint time, and is around what you should expect...
Some Weeb it's a 0-60 in like 2 secs or less. Of course it's alright
Some Weeb read the desc
That didn't give any good reasoning to why it should be buffed
Listen it's good but keep in mind it's not the gtr so therefore it's alright
It’s “average”
I mean its not an actual m3 gtr :/ i see what youre saying though. I miss nfsmw i need to buy it again
Dryways 委 You can download it again if you want
its legit looks quite good for a 13 year old game
Classic nfs mw music in the background 😌
Like 4 the music, It' a big memory 😍
Ive been seeing the mustang boss 302 lately and it’s been dominating in ranked. Could you possibly do a video review on it?
I will try out as many cars as possible :)
Blacklist Racing League you should try the camaro ss i’ve been killing ass with it aswell
I just hate 4 things in nfs payback: 1: the story. Is too stupid, and cringy, it has a lot of fake bad ass moments, the characters are not intresting, they inpire no emotions. 2: the handling of the cars. The "brake to drift" or the arcade feeling, and the phisics. 3: the sounds are sooo generic and boring. 4: the police. The AI is not that good, and you loose them, just following the checkpoints, there is no traps, and there are no police tiers. I love nfs, but i think forza has made a better game in every way.
Rodrigo Palazzo 100% agree with you buddy. Need for speed had died long time ago and no one knew..
Rest In Peace,
Need For Speed -
1994 - 2009
Non Grata, NFS Hot Pursuit 2010 was good and NFS: The Run too. It all started with NFS:Rivals, so I think that NFS died in 2013
No, NFS never dies.
You're basically like complaining water is wet.
Farhan Rizki Ahnafa no, because nfs was not always like that. I mean, before, for example, the story was great. And it worked for a few years, but now its just retarded. they try to make the characters looks bad ass, and have a "family like" relationship. Just like fast and furious. but really, they just look stupid. Or look for example nfsu2, you needed skill to drift in that game, not just press a button, and the tuning was so dinamic, you could adjust the gears ratio. And the police, for example, in nfsmw 2005 or carbon, it was a true challenge, you had pursuit breackers, and had to have carefull with the spikes. Now you just follow checkpoints to finish the event. Also you are forced to drift in nfs payback because the grip is too slow. So no, nfs wasnt allways like that.
Look at his nickname.. :D nice ride, btw
Love the nfs mostwanted music in the background
This game's driving physic is a disgrace to NFS MW. At least you'd have to slow down to corner there, not drift to corner.
There is a thing called arcade racing, play Forza or Gran Turismo if you want real physics.
Forza Horizon series is a joke
Frost Pixel He wasn't talking about sim physics
Frost Pixel
Just because its an "arcade racer", it doesn't mean that it shouldn't take SOME skill to actually drive through corners.
DD dorsett The Ford GT GTE *Handled somewhat like an actual car. That's just how cars are. Expect to fight it at times and not take a hairpin at fucking 200 mph
Well, I’m here to tell you that M3 GTR in NFS Heat is still a disgrace to Most Wanted 05. RSR is still the best car and it’s still overpowered and makes no sense.
I love your PSn name on the second race
I want us to smoke up and watch you play this 👌
Being 100% honest the M3 in Most Wanted was not really even a good car. It was heavy and all but it wasn't really close to being the best. But then again Junkman parts might've spoiled me
Jason Brodel people have a unhealthy obsession with nostalgia
Jason Brodel yea i remember being 8 beating the game and seeing the stats for it and thought immediately that handling stat is actually terrible and then i noticed it wasn’t so good. The rx8 i had was much better
Jason Brodel Porsche Cayman and Viper was a lot better than the GTR
I agree but the sound and it's speed and acceleration was at least close in that game but the cars performance in that game wasn't really the trend the popularity and love and addiction for the car is the reason I see why it's so popular and legendary besides the classic sound is what got me so addicted to the car regardless how trash it was in the previous games and I still love it I just know that this is not the gtr this is an everyday car
the M3 gtr in most wanted is only for people who know how to drive, dont say its crap
The fact that NFS Devs have to keep putting this in every single other game to at least try and appease you guys is just sad. The NFS community has become the Sonic community: always squabbling, always critical, always upset. There will never be another good NFS in the next decade or even more, because everyone is so strung up on their kiddie Underground 2 and MW05 high horses.
You guys are better than this. Help Ghost develop a good game for a new generation. Let go of the past as a whole, but remember parts that would be a welcome addition to newer games. Understand that this isn't 2002-2006 anymore. I love Carbon and Underground and all those games as much as the next guy, otherwise I wouldn't have 100% completion on them; I don't want to live the past, though, even as much fun NFS 2SE is.
Be better. I know we can be better. Help the Devs be better in making new games, not recycling old ones.
U should play nfs carbon soon💯n great vid
Legend will always be legends 😎
I have no idea why people are still stuck with MW 05, yes it was a good game. The story was a simple revenge story, soundtrack was good, characters were edgy enough. What else? I don't see something which MW 05 did better than Payback.
(This comment is probably gonna be flagged and then I will be banned from RUclips since that's how NFS community works)
VIII then people should learn to give it up. I have finished that game 8 times but I enjoy the newer games for what they are.
Frost Pixel I expect this comment to get murdered by the community later...but yeah, nostalgic nonetheless.
Sadly, very few people enjoy the games for what they are now. They always comparing shit.
Because the grip mechanic in Payback is shit? In MW you can grip corner instead of drifting every corner like a fking 2-year-old. Besides, EA really should bring back the transmission whining sound and the V8 sound because the players want a real M3 GTR, not just a regular M3 with bodykits.
The difference is that MW05 is enjoyable, Payback to be honest really isnt.
For a game that came out in 2017 is just lacks any type of spark or personality that draws you to it. Add onto the fact that the fanbase literally has to get on their knees and beg for updates and changes to get things. And that they basically screwed over Deluxe edition buyers by giving them a crap DLC and they still have to pay for the new cars.
Aww man the bmw E46 GTR isnt good :
Saitama wtf ?? Its mph not kmh
AMQ_q its good bmw
AMQ_q Get the E30 Instead
As some kids like Lez never read the FUCKING Title or description
Saitama uh oh
Swift Drift when it was 299 right?
That when it was OP Now it just sucks
We all came for the nostalgia ♥ The Most Wanted 2005 BMW iconic car is hard to forget. Such legend
Feeling coming back
Most Wanted fanboys is disgrace to the racing community...
Exactly. Luckily, I ain't part of them. They're too conservative against newer NFS.
Polar Seal It’s a similar thing with the new Star Trek, just because hard-assed fans can’t accept change, they throw a hissy fit, I mean, I love MW just as much as the next person but the franchise has to evolve and change to survive.
I'm just curious that as to what is the key to having all those power up cards containing three upgrades for every mode? I mean how do you do it with every other car.
Nice drive!
damn dude, u are such a skilled player!!
Crazy what music can do to a racing game
Im really loving this car its really gets me back the old times
You flipping that sloppy regera driver was so satisfying to watch
Antonio Madera it was
People to NFS devs: Throw that 6 cylinder out and put a p60 inside!
Heat: All I can do is a cross plane V8
Great gameplay mdude.
suicidal guy *dude
Wait the 299 cap was removed? HOLY SHIT I HAD NO IDEA
For those saying"the m3 gtr is ruined"or"this car is mean't to be better than the rsr and regera",its not a gtr,its an e46,keep that in mind,it only has a bodykit that looks like the alms bodykit from 2001,there are other kits,plus even blackbox made the e46 an average-bad car in games like Prostreet and Undercover,so just stop saying its the m3 gtr when its not,just wait until the abandoned m3 comes out and we'll see if its actually a different car or an e46 that can't be customized
Just realized that's actually MW music in the background
The tunes are still fresh
I'm mad af about the update, because all the cars that I did the speedcard glitch back when it worked, when I tried to tune them the game reverted their stats to base. And I had a perfect role on my drag NSX.
Anyone have a fast way to grind cards for drag spec?
Such an adrenalin rush just watching this i got the game on black friday just havent had the time to install it looks awesome
Muita massa... de volta as corridas clássicas do nfs !!!
Nice race
Try the R32 bro! I think it is a good car. btw, Nice vid brother
I like your content
How does one drive manual on a keyboard? I drive a manual irl but in video games I never seem to get the shifting point :/
The soundtrack brought me memories when Need For Speed was good :')
How do u use nitrous and shift gears at the same time?
Please give the older NSX a try, I’ve noticed the cornering is fantastic and it doesn’t drop much speed during a drift. I haven’t fully maxed out my cards yet so my top speed can’t compete with the big 3 yet but even with that I’ve won most of my online races with it. For drift the BRZ is bananas. And for drag I’ve noticed the Fox body mustang does really well. Off-road tho nothing compares to the bug, Panamera
You Must Follow + Bridge Trial = Gold
How do you get the exhaust pipes to go on the side? I can't seem to find that option.
Also bare in mind that this game only has the road version of the M3 E46 whereas the MW2005 version had the race version of the E46 called the GTR, which had a V8 engine and stuff.
No it has the race GTR kit the road the spoiler is missing.
Dat nostalgic music
alright i saw this video and i wanted to watch it so now i read the description and see "manual transmission" with keyboard
and i'm too bad with the PS4 controller so i feel like a noob
Do you occasionally look on the map when driving?
2:57 *teleports behind you*
Do you have a clutch on PC keyboard
Thats quite the screen name you use in NFS there
Good driving skills
What about Skyline R34?
Nice drive.
Intense Nostalgia seeing that car
The Legend going sideways😁