Yup, have had my number for over 10 years, now doing a lot for more privacy. Plan to stop using a cell phone plan, use VOIP, also have another phone that is a Brax2 privacy phone, etc.
So it's basically the phone number version of an email alias? Sounds extremely useful, shame the best ones are so limited in coverage. Thanks for the video!
Another video on RUclips discussing this topic said they used disposable sims, and then before they were about to expire, they ported those numbers to add onto their VOIP service. So if you needed a “real number” for a bunch of services, just buy a prepaid sim for 1 month or something and you can still keep that number once it becomes voip
I once visited a restaurant that asked for your name, phone number and birthday. So that they could send you the pdf menu via WhatsApp. You had no other options.
thank you man. no other youtube video does voip in like an actually straightforward and explanatory way like this. I was looking for a voip for some upcoming traveling and all the youtube videos made me more confused and were all advertisements for different services. THANK YOU
So how would this work with a current or new cell phone? I assume you’d need a burner number that you’d just never use then? Except for something like an old iPod touch that was wifi only, you’d need internet cellular service to receive and send voip traffic right?
I'm not sure I understand the question. These are all apps that should work with any current cell phone, and when you move to a new one you can simply download the app again and keep using the phone number like you would with any other app.
@@TheNewOil Basically my question is how would you use voip on a cell phone without cellular data and a phone number of its own? Which would be tracked regardless at that point. The only option would be a disconnected cellular device with a separate mobile hotspot, which you’d then connect via wifi, and then use apps.
@@michaell1603 But then at that point, your hotspot has a cellular ID of some kind which can be tracked. VoIP is - in my opinion - designed to protect against threats like doxxing and data collection from companies, not the carrier. Protecting against a carrier is far more advanced.
@@TheNewOil I believe voip does protect against carrier collection as well. There’s no sensors like gyroscopes that can be tracked, as it’s a hotspot instead of a cell phone. No gps on the hotspot either. No calls or text messages on the hotspot. No internet browsers on the hotspot.
I use OpenPhone for my work number at $10 a month. Probably could easily get away with Google Voice again for work but paying for OpenPhone was my half-attempt at not relying on Google for that. I don’t think you can hotswap numbers but for this use case it works fine for me.
@@TheNewOil ok, because I have switched a lot of 2FA to VoIP, which currently works fine… I was just wondering if they could start rejecting it afterwards. I didn’t want to get locked out
In my experience I've never seen that happen. It's possible they might stop accepting VoIP numbers in the future, but usually in that case you get grandfathered in. Worst case scenario, they'll prompt you to update your phone number next time you log in.
Kinda hoped that there would be more option for EU (well expect UK lol but i'm not there) and i kinda knew it would be limited after i searched for a VOiP. But i will try Viber, using Skype would be annoying lol. Thanks for the video
For pretty much all of us the damage has been done and can’t be reversed. The only thing we can do is do as this video indicates and protect yourself from further phone number related issues beyond this point and thereby possibly limit the spam/robo calls going forward….
Now the scammers and robocallers are using this too. I get several calls a week from unknown numbers that cannot be looked up anywhere online because they are VOIP.
Because VoIP numbers are harder for attackers to SIM swap and gain control of the number. Not impossible, nothing is unhackable, but there are additional obstacles that don't exist on a normal SIM number. eSIMs are also much harder to swap and are becoming increasingly popular and supported, so if you're not comfortable with VoIP you could consider using an eSIM.
Everyone uses VOIP it's been around for years. You suggest Skype and Google voice, but pretend to care about Privacy? Guess that's what happens when you steal privacy tools lol
Yup, have had my number for over 10 years, now doing a lot for more privacy. Plan to stop using a cell phone plan, use VOIP, also have another phone that is a Brax2 privacy phone, etc.
Some People take privacy like piracy.
Dude! Loved the vid, very informative and helpful; so nice to find people who are knowledgeable and are privacy respecting. CHEERS! 🍻
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So it's basically the phone number version of an email alias? Sounds extremely useful, shame the best ones are so limited in coverage. Thanks for the video!
Kind of sad I didn't think to include that analogy.
my only problem with VOIP is that so many services ban them, so I can't use my mysudo very often
Another video on RUclips discussing this topic said they used disposable sims, and then before they were about to expire, they ported those numbers to add onto their VOIP service. So if you needed a “real number” for a bunch of services, just buy a prepaid sim for 1 month or something and you can still keep that number once it becomes voip
I once visited a restaurant that asked for your name, phone number and birthday. So that they could send you the pdf menu via WhatsApp. You had no other options.
You have the option to leave
On god I woulda walked tf out fuck that
I'd rather eat cold pizza rolls than endure that level of bullshit
We were a large group of people, most of which don't care about privacy. So I asked someone to send me the menu via signal.
@@saudfata6236 and that's probably not gonna happen
Thank you for the research you did and condensing it all into this informative video
thank you man. no other youtube video does voip in like an actually straightforward and explanatory way like this. I was looking for a voip for some upcoming traveling and all the youtube videos made me more confused and were all advertisements for different services. THANK YOU
So how would this work with a current or new cell phone? I assume you’d need a burner number that you’d just never use then? Except for something like an old iPod touch that was wifi only, you’d need internet cellular service to receive and send voip traffic right?
I'm not sure I understand the question. These are all apps that should work with any current cell phone, and when you move to a new one you can simply download the app again and keep using the phone number like you would with any other app.
@@TheNewOil Basically my question is how would you use voip on a cell phone without cellular data and a phone number of its own? Which would be tracked regardless at that point. The only option would be a disconnected cellular device with a separate mobile hotspot, which you’d then connect via wifi, and then use apps.
@@michaell1603 But then at that point, your hotspot has a cellular ID of some kind which can be tracked.
VoIP is - in my opinion - designed to protect against threats like doxxing and data collection from companies, not the carrier. Protecting against a carrier is far more advanced.
@@TheNewOil I believe voip does protect against carrier collection as well. There’s no sensors like gyroscopes that can be tracked, as it’s a hotspot instead of a cell phone. No gps on the hotspot either. No calls or text messages on the hotspot. No internet browsers on the hotspot.
I use OpenPhone for my work number at $10 a month. Probably could easily get away with Google Voice again for work but paying for OpenPhone was my half-attempt at not relying on Google for that. I don’t think you can hotswap numbers but for this use case it works fine for me.
Would the newer service Cloaked work for this case or throwaway numbers only?
I can't keep up with just 2 numbers, home and my cell phone. Work email and my two Gmails.
Like your down to the facts approach. Clear and concise.
Good info man, thanks.
Do you use VoIP for 2FA? (For accounts that offer no other option) if not, why?
Yes.
@@TheNewOil ok, because I have switched a lot of 2FA to VoIP, which currently works fine… I was just wondering if they could start rejecting it afterwards. I didn’t want to get locked out
In my experience I've never seen that happen. It's possible they might stop accepting VoIP numbers in the future, but usually in that case you get grandfathered in. Worst case scenario, they'll prompt you to update your phone number next time you log in.
@@TheNewOil good deal, thanks!
Kinda hoped that there would be more option for EU (well expect UK lol but i'm not there) and i kinda knew it would be limited after i searched for a VOiP. But i will try Viber, using Skype would be annoying lol. Thanks for the video
Thank you very much! Really helpful video, I didn't know there were services in my country!
For pretty much all of us the damage has been done and can’t be reversed. The only thing we can do is do as this video indicates and protect yourself from further phone number related issues beyond this point and thereby possibly limit the spam/robo calls going forward….
Now the scammers and robocallers are using this too. I get several calls a week from unknown numbers that cannot be looked up anywhere online because they are VOIP.
is Hushed open-source?
No.
Please explain how porting from VOIP would be more difficult for scammers than SIM swapping
Because VoIP numbers are harder for attackers to SIM swap and gain control of the number. Not impossible, nothing is unhackable, but there are additional obstacles that don't exist on a normal SIM number. eSIMs are also much harder to swap and are becoming increasingly popular and supported, so if you're not comfortable with VoIP you could consider using an eSIM.
@@TheNewOil that’s good to know, I actually have 2 esims in my iPhone. I’m considering porting one of them to VoIP.
Soooooooooooooo, any new content in the making lately ???
First & third Tuesday, like it says on the channel :)
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Everyone uses VOIP it's been around for years. You suggest Skype and Google voice, but pretend to care about Privacy? Guess that's what happens when you steal privacy tools lol
Why are you subscribed if you have such a low opinion of me?