@@georgeyd2331and no they shouldn't be doing that either but at least we can defend from them but in a case like this there's so much equipment we're just arming them for war.
@georgeyd2331 you think people in our government care? They got their kickback years ago when they contracted the manufacture of them... congress always gets paid.
Yeah, that was FKING ridiculous. Fr tho. Let’s just leave billions of dollars of military equipment, hardware, vehicles, ammo, firearms, and basically, enough to arm a small army, and make them, well, stronger than any 3rd world country….let’s just leave it behind for the Taliban…. 🤦♂️go figure….
The Australian Army "leases" NVG's from US. This means you can't lose or steal them because, it's not as simple as "writing them off". It becomes something very very high level and they will destroy you for creating all that extra work.
@@vforvendetta275 I've seen entire exercises shut down and hundreds of people searching a grid square until it was found. God knows what happens when it's not found 🤣
Not gonna lie I think if you’re the biggest power in Oceania I would think you would be able to buy your own NVGs rather then “leasing” then from the US army
Well the government claims "We left all that stuff there for the Afghan government. We had no idea their government was just going to fold and give everything they had to the Taliban."
@@Themaxwithnonameini guns weren’t unique to Huey’s you could find those mounts on all sorts of vehicles. Cadillac gage commando had a mount for it. Plus it’s not stolen, NCOs just calling in some favors. All within the same branch of the military too
I was on an FTX at Clark AB Phillipines during Balikatan 88. During the exercise, a large number of us developed heat stress and got pulled from the field, and out of 13 squad members we were down to 6 or 7 of us. As the guys got pulled, they left their weapons in the field, so we had a pile of M-16s in a pup tent in our squad area. Upon completion of the exercise, we each carried multiple weapons back to the Base Armory. I carried an M-60 in addition to my M-16, and the armorers asked me where I had gotten it AS I WAS TURNING IT IN. I kind of wish that I'd "lost" one of those M-16s. I don't know how I'd gotten away with it, but I still wish that I'd lost one in my duffle bag.
Last year when I was in the field I found a pair of NVGs, I thought I saved us from doing hands across germany but low and behold, someone else lost their NVGs and we stayed awhile searching but after so long the brigade commander made the decision to call it off and we were finally able to convoy back to base
Someone tried this on my ship back in 1987. The CO came on the 1MC and stated that if someone anonymously put it back they wouldn't be charged, but if it was found in their possession, they'd be charged. Then they started searching footlockers and workspaces. Whomever it was, put it back.
Don't even make one ok pair out of parts that were going to thrown away to keep it for yourself. It's best to just let it be thrown away. Not worth the hassle
Illegal and a war crime these days. Technically it’s considered a war trophy, which has been highly frowned upon for several decades now. WWII and all that back then? They didn’t have Geneva Conventions and war laws in place, so anything was fair game. As long as you didn’t mind packing extra shit on top of your standard equipment. Now if you’re talking about an “administrative oversight,” that’s a totally different ball game
I was at Ft Lewis (JBLM) in 2011/2012 when that guy got busted for stealing 600k worth of nods and such. Plus the added charge of selling some of it. We got put on lockdown until some of it came to light…
One Marine I know shipped home parts for a SAW a little at a time. He ended up getting caught. Got to stay and worked in camp guard his entire service as a terminal PFC. it was annoying af because I actually wanted to be there and wouldn’t steal but had a lapse in judgment and popped hot on a UA and was separated. Yet that their pos got to finish his four years and I got let go after 3.
So it's only a problem if you try to sell it? What if you just want a pair for yourself? Cid probably can't do much about that since there's no internet listing to follow
They'll typically go and question the last person who signed out the gear in question. The lesson is, if you want a set of dual tubes for yourself, then buy them yourself. Don't steal. Uncle Sam hates competition.
Dog… CID will fuck you up. They will pull cell phone records and pings within time parameters, video footage of buildings and gates, interview literally anyone they deem potentially involved or holding info… they don’t mess around. Witnessed it first hand.
I remember when I was in my early 20s hearing guys talking about boxes of grenades being stolen out of fort Jackson. I was thinking "who the hell needs them???" 😳
During Desert Storm - The Supply Officer of The USS Sirico ordered many sensitive items. (On a small ship like that - The Supply Officer is a collateral duty for a line officer.) Since there was a war going on - his requests were filled without question. When Desert Storm was over - and his returned Stateside - he thought he’d gotten away with many sets of expensive NVGs. Eventually - they followed up on all those goggles. NMCIS (Navy Marine Corps Investigative Service) followed up on the now separated LT. He was given a stay at the grey bar hotel.
Strategically Transfer Equipment to Alternate Locations S.T.E.A.L, see it’s just an acronym Sgt Major! (Credit for the acronym as far as I know would go to The Fat Electrician, but I couldn’t join the military so I don’t really know.)
Had a set of NVGs fall out of a helicopter on a live fire range doing gun runs in a Huey. That was a Fk’n nightmare and they were never found. We did FOD walks on the range with 50-100 Marines for a couple days. It was truly an accident and I don’t remember anyone getting in trouble. That was in the late 90’s
Knew a supply guy once that offered a dude in my unit an ACOG " that wasn't on the books" my buddy almost took the dude on the offer. Glad he didn't it was probably a CID setup. We were MP'S
My buddy in the army at fort Carson im 2012 said someone stole an acog so everyone got lined up and couldn't leave until it turned up. I guess it never did after hours of waiting haha
If them things go missing, the entire company will know in less than an hour (at least how my company did checks). Nobody is going home or anything until they are found. Lol
One guy gave me PVS 14s and forgot to have me sign for them. A system would have just walked away and he’d have been at fault with no documentation of who he gave them to. Luckily, I’m a good guy and I hated PVS 14s.
I got to talk with CID for a little bit before I went to Afghanistan in 2011. Someone had absconded with a box of red dot sights, and part of their investigation was snooping around our airfield. They eventually found a truck down near Syracuse that had the box inside, but I never learned if they recovered them all or if some had already been sold.
Or you get to a SOF unit. Then get injured while getting pcsed to a new SOF unit. They call you and say hey where do you want your gear to go? You say just to my home of record. Next thing you know. You have a peq-15 your Pvs-14 and your two pro-152’s at your house. Along with an M4. And only thing that they ask for is the radios and the assault rifle.
WTF? What moron is going to sell NVGs? If I had midnight acquisitioned NVGs (and I wish that I had), I'd still have those bad boys, and I got out of the USAF back in 1997. I have a whole laundry list of things that I wish that I could have stolen from the USAF when I was in. It includes weapons & vehicles.
Basically, ANY serialized property of the military is classified as "Sensitive Items". A lost or stolen gas mask can get you a field-grade Article 15, but actual theft of weapons or tech (or any parts thereto) WILL get one a court-martial.
My command lost like ten 50cal rounds, needless to say.. THEY LOST THEIR F'ing MINDS! Never was found and the whole gun mount watch had to reduce our operational readiness to the point we had to set up the 50 in the instance of combat. Really made watch feel both pointless and extra dangerous if combat arised😢
Have you seen Alien vs Predator 2? Yeah apparently every national guards-man know how to fly every vehicle, knows every weapon system, and a master at stealth operations. But that's not my main concern, my main concern in the movie is she gets home and gives her kid night vision goggles. You know what ever post she is from is on lock down. To be accurate the military will be more concerned in finding the missing equipment than a rampaging alien, producing more aliens, killing machine. Next if there really was an alien causing all this chaos they would tell who ever is calling them, to call animal control and give them their number.
If animal control goes down, their is a protocol for this. Call the Florida man. He will take care of the pesky aliens and the predator. If that's fails God forbid we have to call Chuck Norris. No one wants to call Chuck Norris late at night
I heard a story from a Marine, he said there was a Marine who would wear NVG's at night on the freeway, blacked out Porsche to deliver drugs from FL to NY.
Having had a lot of experience driving under NVG’s I have my doubts about the validity of that. It’s a pain in the ass on highways with other peoples’ headlights, on top of the increased risk of getting a passerby calling 911 on you, let alone cops seeing you drive by as they’re doing highway work. Actual drug runners literally just buy mid-quality cars and drive like normal people, no one’s hopping in a Porsche and flying up highways blacked out 😂
let me tell you this. CID will fly from Virginia to California and show up to your job in the middle of the day even after you've gotten your honorable discharge. They investigate everything brought to them no matter what.
With Identifers on plate carriers, the majority of people understand one of two things: "POLICE" or "SHERIFF". You roll up with identifiers stating "FBI", "Federal Agent", etc. Most individuals will duly question your veracity and likely precieve you as a threat - easily faked, and faked often. We found this out the hard way as an agency. That is why our identifiers now have "POLICE" most prominently displayed with our agency name below it. Show up to a domicile with questionable identifiers to the wrong address - which happens very often - someone will get killed.
A lot. Mainly PEQ’s and shit. A LOT of “grey market” PEQ-15/PEQ15A/PEQ2 etc are out there. There’s been plenty of times where I’ve seen PVS14’s for sale that I immediately stayed away from because they clearly had destroyed labeling on the housings. Just not worth the risk of buying stuff like that, even if you aren’t legally culpable; governments not reimbursing you after they reacquire their own stuff.
Man that CID agent looks so cool. That bush doesn't stand a chance.
bush didn't make it :/
@@TSPLYt was put down like how a dog is whenever the ATF arrives
@@aquatic4760 I hate that this is accurate.
@@TSPLYI think he's referring to the picture of the agent pointing his gun at the bush
@@dreamman5588
Thats why he said "the bush didnt make it :/"
Time to “Tactically Acquire” some goggles
lol noooo
@@TSPLY : Why not ?
I'm honest buyer.
Time to *tactically acquire* an iPhone :D
Time to tactically acquire a A10
I have the ability to tactically acquire about 60+ pairs of aviator nvg goggles. I literally have the keys that access them.
I wonder if they're looking into that 80 some odd billion worth of sensitive equipment given away a while back.
Nope. Because the Afghans signed a hand receipt.......
@@mr.k.i.s.s7496 they earned it at this point I guess. We will probably end up allies again with them anyways since they're already sticking it Iran.
"No yall can't have those nods were saving them for the taliban " Biden lmao
Fuck yeah it is billion's of dollars.
@@georgeyd2331and no they shouldn't be doing that either but at least we can defend from them but in a case like this there's so much equipment we're just arming them for war.
@georgeyd2331 you think people in our government care? They got their kickback years ago when they contracted the manufacture of them... congress always gets paid.
Blaming a Biden for Trump's pullout is crazy
Yeah, that was FKING ridiculous. Fr tho. Let’s just leave billions of dollars of military equipment, hardware, vehicles, ammo, firearms, and basically, enough to arm a small army, and make them, well, stronger than any 3rd world country….let’s just leave it behind for the Taliban…. 🤦♂️go figure….
Yo as much as they're worth, I would not steal them to sell them. I would steal them to have them. It's so cool!
Absolutely!
Rule of thumb: if it goes to the vault, dont fuck with it
facts. how to not go to the brig for dummies lol😂
The Australian Army "leases" NVG's from US. This means you can't lose or steal them because, it's not as simple as "writing them off". It becomes something very very high level and they will destroy you for creating all that extra work.
Someone stole mine when I was a reservist back in 2000.
@@vforvendetta275 I've seen entire exercises shut down and hundreds of people searching a grid square until it was found. God knows what happens when it's not found 🤣
Not gonna lie I think if you’re the biggest power in Oceania I would think you would be able to buy your own NVGs rather then “leasing” then from the US army
The thing is.... I ain't tryna sell it. Imma go larping with em'😂
Military grade means lowest bidder. Military spec means the items meets Military specifications.
Ok but what if we just leave billions of dollars of the stuff to the taliban? Will CID step in there?
Well the government claims "We left all that stuff there for the Afghan government. We had no idea their government was just going to fold and give everything they had to the Taliban."
So in other words, no. Because we openly gave it to them rather than acquiring it
S.T.E.A.L.
Strategically Tranfer Equipment to Alternate Location
😂
S.T.E.A.L- Supervise Teach Educate And Learn.
@@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654 sounds more boring, but you do you i guess
reminder that a jailbroken quest 2 and an IR flashlight is basically a poor man’s quad nods
Nice job on becoming a dad, man, congrats!
The 12 crew members that work on an PT a boat:OH Really? We have “tactical acquired” a 37mm cannon
Yea lots of redneck engineering with stolen shit back in the day 😂
@@Likeaworm
Yeah. Like gun trucks in Nam, there's a picture of at least one with a mini gun that came off a chopper.
@@Themaxwithnonameini guns weren’t unique to Huey’s you could find those mounts on all sorts of vehicles. Cadillac gage commando had a mount for it. Plus it’s not stolen, NCOs just calling in some favors. All within the same branch of the military too
It's not stealing its the re- allocation of government resources
I was on an FTX at Clark AB Phillipines during Balikatan 88. During the exercise, a large number of us developed heat stress and got pulled from the field, and out of 13 squad members we were down to 6 or 7 of us. As the guys got pulled, they left their weapons in the field, so we had a pile of M-16s in a pup tent in our squad area. Upon completion of the exercise, we each carried multiple weapons back to the Base Armory. I carried an M-60 in addition to my M-16, and the armorers asked me where I had gotten it AS I WAS TURNING IT IN. I kind of wish that I'd "lost" one of those M-16s. I don't know how I'd gotten away with it, but I still wish that I'd lost one in my duffle bag.
My friend knew a 90 year old who did that in 'nam. Shot his M16 in his backyard in his final years
Tactically acquiring items is now my favorite euphemism for stealing
Last year when I was in the field I found a pair of NVGs, I thought I saved us from doing hands across germany but low and behold, someone else lost their NVGs and we stayed awhile searching but after so long the brigade commander made the decision to call it off and we were finally able to convoy back to base
I've been claiming "tactically acquired" to every judge I've ever been before for 40 yrs and it always works for me.
"Military grade" and "mil-spec" are different.
"Military grade" is what the military receives.
"Mil-spec" is what the military wanted.
Me buying shit for cash out of surplus stores in Oak Grove.
Too bad our politicians aren’t held to same standard. They are allowed rampant criminality with zero consequences
Someone tried this on my ship back in 1987. The CO came on the 1MC and stated that if someone anonymously put it back they wouldn't be charged, but if it was found in their possession, they'd be charged. Then they started searching footlockers and workspaces. Whomever it was, put it back.
I was able to tactically acquire a gas mask when I was in
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Nah a lot of it gets exchange through hands. Ive seen vests, granades, once i even seen a rocket launcher move
Dude, if I'd stolen that kind of gear, I'd still have it. You know "Be prepared ".
@@earlwyss520 you would have been the perfect client 😂
Army base nearby had a lockdown because of a single missing rifle. It was nuts.
Imma “tactically aquire” some rifle and grenades
Don't even make one ok pair out of parts that were going to thrown away to keep it for yourself. It's best to just let it be thrown away. Not worth the hassle
What if you take gear from an enemy soldier like night vision and sell it in the civilian market?
Illegal and a war crime these days. Technically it’s considered a war trophy, which has been highly frowned upon for several decades now. WWII and all that back then? They didn’t have Geneva Conventions and war laws in place, so anything was fair game. As long as you didn’t mind packing extra shit on top of your standard equipment.
Now if you’re talking about an “administrative oversight,” that’s a totally different ball game
No no, I believe you meant that those soldiers Strategically Transported a Piece of Equipment to an Alternative Location
Trainees and soldiers are known to tactically acquire things.
I was at Ft Lewis (JBLM) in 2011/2012 when that guy got busted for stealing 600k worth of nods and such. Plus the added charge of selling some of it. We got put on lockdown until some of it came to light…
One Marine I know shipped home parts for a SAW a little at a time. He ended up getting caught. Got to stay and worked in camp guard his entire service as a terminal PFC. it was annoying af because I actually wanted to be there and wouldn’t steal but had a lapse in judgment and popped hot on a UA and was separated. Yet that their pos got to finish his four years and I got let go after 3.
So it's only a problem if you try to sell it? What if you just want a pair for yourself? Cid probably can't do much about that since there's no internet listing to follow
They'll typically go and question the last person who signed out the gear in question.
The lesson is, if you want a set of dual tubes for yourself, then buy them yourself.
Don't steal. Uncle Sam hates competition.
Dog… CID will fuck you up. They will pull cell phone records and pings within time parameters, video footage of buildings and gates, interview literally anyone they deem potentially involved or holding info… they don’t mess around. Witnessed it first hand.
I remember when I was in my early 20s hearing guys talking about boxes of grenades being stolen out of fort Jackson. I was thinking "who the hell needs them???" 😳
So if i tacticaly get a nvg and i dont place it on internet i can keep it ?
Fort Hood single handedly took down 31Ds being used for a while...
During Desert Storm - The Supply Officer of The USS Sirico ordered many sensitive items.
(On a small ship like that - The Supply Officer is a collateral duty for a line officer.)
Since there was a war going on - his requests were filled without question. When Desert Storm was over - and his returned Stateside - he thought he’d gotten away with many sets of expensive NVGs.
Eventually - they followed up on all those goggles. NMCIS (Navy Marine Corps Investigative Service) followed up on the now separated LT. He was given a stay at the grey bar hotel.
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Tactically acquiring 😂 that's great
Strategically Transfer Equipment to Alternate Locations S.T.E.A.L, see it’s just an acronym Sgt Major!
(Credit for the acronym as far as I know would go to The Fat Electrician, but I couldn’t join the military so I don’t really know.)
They are so expensive no wonder there's a task force.
Brb, gonna scour craigslists near infantry bases
most individuals who acquire this gear don't sell them, and if they do, it's to someone they know.
Man I just want it for myself
Those soldiers need to get rid of those things quick . . . so sell them to us for cheap.
They will never get my woobie
Fort bliss soldiers were selling rifles fully tactical with some stuff scrapped up they lived with a felon on the east side of town
*cid agent looking for me after I stole a p38 can opener*
Wow! I didn't know about this. Soldiers risking their service? That's sad. 😮
Had a set of NVGs fall out of a helicopter on a live fire range doing gun runs in a Huey. That was a Fk’n nightmare and they were never found. We did FOD walks on the range with 50-100 Marines for a couple days. It was truly an accident and I don’t remember anyone getting in trouble. That was in the late 90’s
I'd never sell any of the equipment I acquired. So much cool shit I'm sure you can grab before anyone really noticed
Coughs in full power peq 😂
Knew a supply guy once that offered a dude in my unit an ACOG " that wasn't on the books" my buddy almost took the dude on the offer. Glad he didn't it was probably a CID setup. We were MP'S
"Tactically Aquire"?
I prefer the term "Liberate".
My buddy in the army at fort Carson im 2012 said someone stole an acog so everyone got lined up and couldn't leave until it turned up. I guess it never did after hours of waiting haha
Gear adrift is a gift.
If them things go missing, the entire company will know in less than an hour (at least how my company did checks). Nobody is going home or anything until they are found. Lol
One guy gave me PVS 14s and forgot to have me sign for them. A system would have just walked away and he’d have been at fault with no documentation of who he gave them to. Luckily, I’m a good guy and I hated PVS 14s.
It's true. Lost gun meant whole base went on lockdown
TSPLY I'm surprised CID never found those optics and quad nods you've got. Oops
I had to wait till I became a contractor until I could "acquire " some NVG's and 80 batteries
Will they give you a pair when you enlist for your term?
No
@@__prometheus__ ed edd n eddy the best show ever made in Cartoon Network
Yes, steal. The e4 know all about it😂
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I got to talk with CID for a little bit before I went to Afghanistan in 2011. Someone had absconded with a box of red dot sights, and part of their investigation was snooping around our airfield. They eventually found a truck down near Syracuse that had the box inside, but I never learned if they recovered them all or if some had already been sold.
Or you get to a SOF unit. Then get injured while getting pcsed to a new SOF unit. They call you and say hey where do you want your gear to go? You say just to my home of record. Next thing you know. You have a peq-15 your Pvs-14 and your two pro-152’s at your house. Along with an M4. And only thing that they ask for is the radios and the assault rifle.
WTF? What moron is going to sell NVGs? If I had midnight acquisitioned NVGs (and I wish that I had), I'd still have those bad boys, and I got out of the USAF back in 1997.
I have a whole laundry list of things that I wish that I could have stolen from the USAF when I was in. It includes weapons & vehicles.
I worked for CID in the Marine corps and we handled all crimes from murder to sexual assault, drugs… not just grand larceny.
One of my dads mates who’s in the army just stole a pair for a game of airsoft
Quad tube is my next set up to get
Strategically Transfering Equipment to am Alternative Location
Basically, ANY serialized property of the military is classified as "Sensitive Items".
A lost or stolen gas mask can get you a field-grade Article 15, but actual theft of weapons or tech (or any parts thereto) WILL get one a court-martial.
No hand receipt? Then it belongs to me.
What if you tactically keep them for your self
It's the sas way of doing stuff
It’s all fun and games until they have the entire division looking for something that isn’t lost👎
Ofc fort hood😂😂
My command lost like ten 50cal rounds, needless to say.. THEY LOST THEIR F'ing MINDS!
Never was found and the whole gun mount watch had to reduce our operational readiness to the point we had to set up the 50 in the instance of combat.
Really made watch feel both pointless and extra dangerous if combat arised😢
Have you seen Alien vs Predator 2? Yeah apparently every national guards-man know how to fly every vehicle, knows every weapon system, and a master at stealth operations. But that's not my main concern, my main concern in the movie is she gets home and gives her kid night vision goggles. You know what ever post she is from is on lock down. To be accurate the military will be more concerned in finding the missing equipment than a rampaging alien, producing more aliens, killing machine. Next if there really was an alien causing all this chaos they would tell who ever is calling them, to call animal control and give them their number.
If animal control goes down, their is a protocol for this. Call the Florida man. He will take care of the pesky aliens and the predator. If that's fails God forbid we have to call Chuck Norris. No one wants to call Chuck Norris late at night
Strategic transferring equipment to an alternate location or as Nic would say S.T.E.A.L
I heard a story from a Marine, he said there was a Marine who would wear NVG's at night on the freeway, blacked out Porsche to deliver drugs from FL to NY.
Having had a lot of experience driving under NVG’s I have my doubts about the validity of that. It’s a pain in the ass on highways with other peoples’ headlights, on top of the increased risk of getting a passerby calling 911 on you, let alone cops seeing you drive by as they’re doing highway work. Actual drug runners literally just buy mid-quality cars and drive like normal people, no one’s hopping in a Porsche and flying up highways blacked out 😂
@@GetTheFO Haha, yea.. This was back in 2000ish. I always thought it was a cool story though.
I'd love to tactically acquire nods, that shit is damn expensive
let me tell you this. CID will fly from Virginia to California and show up to your job in the middle of the day even after you've gotten your honorable discharge. They investigate everything brought to them no matter what.
You can "acuire" a poncho but not NV goggles.....
With Identifers on plate carriers, the majority of people understand one of two things: "POLICE" or "SHERIFF". You roll up with identifiers stating "FBI", "Federal Agent", etc. Most individuals will duly question your veracity and likely precieve you as a threat - easily faked, and faked often.
We found this out the hard way as an agency.
That is why our identifiers now have "POLICE" most prominently displayed with our agency name below it.
Show up to a domicile with questionable identifiers to the wrong address - which happens very often - someone will get killed.
Strategically Taking Equipment to Another Location. STEAL
anyone got some nods??(definitely not cid)😂😂
My mom's crackhead friend had a pair of the ones stolen from fort hood and got arrested for it he's still in prison
Of course it happened at Hood 😅
Forgot to take the caps off💀
He’s using the thermal imager in the center there lmao.
But NODS are a must 😢
In first image the goggles are closed
What helmet is that on the last picture?
Who’s got the balls to even try something like that!
Most people aren't criminal masterminds and that's why they get caught.
A lot. Mainly PEQ’s and shit. A LOT of “grey market” PEQ-15/PEQ15A/PEQ2 etc are out there. There’s been plenty of times where I’ve seen PVS14’s for sale that I immediately stayed away from because they clearly had destroyed labeling on the housings. Just not worth the risk of buying stuff like that, even if you aren’t legally culpable; governments not reimbursing you after they reacquire their own stuff.
So Afghanistan must be off limits....with all that military surplus...cid....smh
There was a close down at jblm a while ago cuz they couldn’t find a 50 cal
Is there a statue of limitations for this?
I just bought my own eventually, 4600$ later...
$4600...
We, the tax payers paid for it!