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I was conned into going to a memorial a few years back as my elderly parents had no one to give them a lift. Everyone was so happy to see me and hugged me etc. I’m not disfellowshipped or anything but those same people ignore me when they see me in the shops. Such hypocrites.
But I find it so offensive that they do not partake of the Lord’s supper
@@aspenenglish4976 Because they are taught they are not of the anointed, the JW thinks G.B are the only ones going to heaven the rest aren't, Jesus is our only savior whoever believes in me will be saved you will be with me in heaven, the teachings they learn are from the devil, he hates Jesus
@@aspenenglish4976it's a good thing they don't cause they are not born again. If they did they would be partaking unworthy and be judged for it.
I would have waited in the car.
Tank God I am a Muslim
I wouldn’t step foot in a Kingdom Hall ever again
Really? I would, just to see if it's changed or not.
I couldn't get paid enough to do that! 😂
Me either!!!
I’d do it just for funsies to see how far I’ve come
Just now thought 🤔 about it.....I would not.
The best part of KH meetings/bookstudies, was getting the _hell_ out of there. The outside air always smelled fresher, colors seemed brighter, after escaping the insufferable, soul-crushing cloistering _dullness_ of it all, surrounded mostly by automatons. The atmosphere of KH's always struck me as oddly deadening; like there was an invisible pall that just sucked the energy and zest for life right out of you. Almost Corporate. Quite loathesome, it was.
Yes! 😂
Always felt the same. Deffently not Gods spirit.
The atmosphere was deadening bc theee is spell being casted on you when you are in there. I always felt it the second I walked in. With their creepy songs and bone chilling quiet through the whole thing. Now that I know JW are run by Feeemasons the whole eerieness and spell like attitude people are under makes sense.
Our weekday meetings were on Tuesdays and Thursdays. All day every Tuesday and Thursday I felt like I had a cloud over my head at school.
@@Monkeyshine911 I was lucky: my parents (born into it) weren't that intense. In fact my mom always questioned and secretly hated it, even as a very little girl. By the early '80's she was able to negotiate a letter of Resignation/Dis-association with the Elders, not without some controversy, but without the full-on brunt of shunning that dis-fellowshipping would bring, at least from the immediate family. To their credit, none of my grandparents had the heart to do that, as she hadn't committed any overt crimes of Apostasy. By then, my dad (secretly entertaining New Age doctrines, reading _absolutely forbidden_ material like Edgar Cayce and Ruth Montgomery), was kinda drifting. Once in a while he'd go to a meeting, but he didn't get back into it (and destroy his life) until after their (amicable) divorce. The Jehovah Construct (and the disgusting fear It generates) was imbued too-deep into his psyche to him to exorcise.
So the bulk of my childhood experience was only going to meetings when spending weekends or summer holidays at my grandparent's. By my teens, my dad and the malignant psycho twat he hooked-up with (from whom I ran away) tried to strong-arm me back into The Truth, but I was having none-of-it, able to escape and eventually live with my mom. By my late teens, the anthropomorphic Father-God Construct had been effectively slain, but It's rotting offal has left me contaminated, fiercely against all religion and viral Group-Think.
“He wasn’t too weird.” He followed you to your car, chatted you up questioning you, and tried to set a recruitment date. I don’t know that it gets any weirder.
If you’re a real true Witness, recruiting others (sharing the good news) is always what’s on your mind.
@@renafielding945 , obviously. Doesn’t make it any less weird.
@@lane6216 well he had to follow him to his car as the doors are locked and most people would do some sort of small talk. Relative to the situation he's in, if he's not getting preached, it's not uber weird.
@@Freeeeeeeee27 , yes, and I totally get that. It just struck me since he didn’t say that part aloud. I was going purely from a “normal” mindset to hearing this interaction. Caught me as funny.
This is a security measure, prompted by the escalation in news coverage on church shootings and whatnot.
I was shocked when my cousin told me they lock the doors now !! That is creepy as hell. I know several that have woken up because of the beards!
Not defending but they lock em due to that white boy shooting up the church a few years ago
It would be illegal here.. fire safety..
I actually think it is illegal due to fire code. They don’t have any windows. It’s really dangerous if you think about it.
I think them locking doors would be enough for me to wake up if I hadn't done it before now. Why would they be doing that? Are they trying to imprison the current witnesswes so they can't leave? Sus behavior.
@@aspenenglish4976 ..when we designed and built our KH in the 80’s.. religious buildings were exempt from installing outward opening fire safety doors… but we did any way… on the far side of the entrance hall..one at the front and one at the back.
It must have been good.. just before the pandemic, WT sold it to the church next door
.. Satan’s $$$ in exchange for (supposedly) gods house..ha.
I'm surprised they called on a "worldly visitor" to answer a question. They never did that at my hall... I think they were afraid of what they would say. Congrats on getting to answer twice! I would love to do what you did... that was outstanding.
They do sometimes.
The last 5 years I went I had a panic attack every time. Never again. I'd boil over and make a scene. I despise this cult so much.
I used to have panic attacks too and sometimes I would vomit if I listened for too long - the time I could hear their nonsense got shorter and shorter until I could barely stand to be in there for 10 minutes
That would be me. Knowing what I know now...the boiling over part.
Wouldn't end well...
Same here mate. It's nothing but abuse and love bombing
Same here.
Yet, you chose to go knowing that was going to happen.
I was in for 60 years, will never ever go back. But if I did, I am convinced that there is no kingdom hall in my state that I wouldn't know at least 1 person. That is how close a community the org is.
My father has been in for 60 years and will never wake up. His whole network is there, and his pride would never let him realize all those years were given to a cult. Congrats to you for seeing it for what it is.
@@sylkelster I never thought I would wake up, as it was my whole life. A couple of personal traumas that did it for me. ( Divorce, and the death of my dad...JW family can be so cruel and unloving) I hope your father will wake up too.
I was robbed of my childhood because of Jehovah’s Witness. I couldn’t wrestle after school or play football for the schools because I was forced to spend my nights here giving talks about stuff I wasn’t even sure about. I was embarrassed for being the weird kid. Being forced to go out in service wearing a suit to big for me getting laughed at by kids who’d see me the next day. It feels like my talent was wasted. I’m not very sociable and I’ve had traumatic encounters with them that I can’t ever forget. All because of them. I joined the army to get away eventually. Then I left with my girlfriend. I will never put my kids through that. I don’t believe in anything. A meteor smacked this rock before. It’ll happen again. And if we have the capability to stop it the sun will get us next. I’m sorry for the rant. But I don’t believe anything. The ruined my young life but as a man I learned no one cares. Being black I’m a statistic. And I just need to work until I find something that makes me truly happy. And give my kids the life I wish I coulda had.. and protect them with ever fiber in my being.
I feel you. I wish I played a sport during high school. Sometimes I felt outcasted for not wearing a Halloween costume or not participating in Holiday activities in school. I would just have to blank my mind out.
@@tin8060 yea 100% same. Another reason to get made fun of and being outcasted and called weird
All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17
LMAO robbed, you so butt hurt, you had a choice 🤡
I also joined the army to get away from JWs and the whole life being born into it.
The beards now being allowed made me realize that the GB KNOWS what they teach/tell their followers is not true. At least that’s how it computes in my brain.
its phony as hell...nothing to compute. its lead be jehovah..is absolutely hilarious now!!lol
I am waiting for them to say oops Armageddon not coming but please send us money and stay!
It's all about money. Kingdom Halls are just real estate investments. The GB are soo full of shite, always have been, always will be.
All about following orders
Taqiyah will be allowed soon .
My mom called me a few days ago to tell me that she is going to start going back to the kingdom hall because things are getting closer to the end and she wants to be there in paradise to see her dead children. One is an absolute piece of scum who has done the unspeakable and she thinks that death forgives all sins. So I said, if that’s the case, why would we do anything good when we can do anything evil and as soon as we die we’re forgiven.
Good honest reply 🙂
I grew up in a cult that was an offshoot of Seventh Day Adventist too. My dad was raised JW and my mom was raised 7th day Adventist. My dad wasn’t a practising jw and my mom quit SDA to become worldwide Church of God, which is the cult I grew up in. Thanks for spreading cult awareness. I’m a first time viewer, and a new sub to your channel.
I was part of the world wide church of God too since I was 19 I am 70 was in it over 30 years. Part of it was good but it depends on the people.
My son’s congregation - the men are taking weekly photos to watch progress. Some beards are growing very fast.
You’re very brave! The beard thing was worth going to observe. I appreciate your updates & observations, which are often humorous & informative. Looking forward to your amusing insightful views. 😂 great job!
Saying you were from an Adventist background and shunned is actuality pretty ingenious. I wonder how many Witnesses would say that is terrible without thinking about it
Mainstream Adventists don't shun.
@joez3706 he did say "offshoot of" and I doubt many JWs are going to question or even know that.
@@soundthealarm83 I know that
What a strange transaction!
The founder of the JWs was a former Mormon, but still pretty clever.
Good job Champion 👍🏼 you took one for the team.
The last time I was inside of a kingdom Hall was for my grandmother's funeral. Everything was pretty chill until the end. Right before they wrapped it up, they said they wanted to show a video. It was an ad for Jehovah's witnesses. I was really upset. My whole family was there grieving and they wanted to show a Jehovah's witness ad. I'll never forget that. Very strange.
Damn that’s crazy… I would have been upset too
@@rpbandz3533 Guess they say spread the message everywhere, they really mean everywhere.
@@alxemceebut ofc they target people who are heartbroken, grief stricken people or people who are vulnerable so they can rope them into the cult much more easily
The governing body letting men use beards is still pretty new. It is probably gonna take a while until people actually start being comfortable having a beard.
Its only new in the states. In Germany is has been a lot more common and more acceptable for some years now...
@@davidhadden-ii5hs yeah. It has a few exceptions, but It has been taught that we have to shave it every time we have some "privilege" to deal with in the congregation
Judges 2:19 ..matthew 24: 48,49 look, they encourages every jw's to patronages the anti COVID-19 vaccines to have the vaccine card which only with the mark of 666 could only patronages(buy) and campaigning to patronages it(sell).(revelation 13;17)
My cousin converted my mother and even though she was seriously ill she kept trying even to the day she died to convert me. They had her memorial service at the Kingdom Hall, and let me tell you, if you think losing your parent is bad enough, try dealing with it with a group of total strangers in a building you've never been in being so overly friendly you feel the urge to run. So I understand completely the reactions of others to this., personally this experience turned me into an agnostic. I believe in God I just don't believe in organized religion anymore after this experience
Jesus seeks a relationship with you. Not just outward "religion". JW deny the deity of Christ and are very legalistic like the Pharisees in the bible. Clean on the outside but dirty inside. God bless and know Jesus loved you enough to die for you.
I already decided that when a JW family member passes I will not go to the hypocritical memorial service. I was never baptized, was a publisher (LOL) until the age of 12 when I put my foot down and endured so much punishment as a tween, but never went back. These people, in my eyes are horrible.
Dude. I feel you. You're not an agnostic then. If you believe in God, you are per definition not an agnostic. But that's fine. I really feel you dude. I would encourage you to just read the gospels. Start with John so you get an idea who Jesus is. Then go on to Matthew to figure out what Jesus taught while he was walking the earth. And don't have me convince you of anything. Just ask God to show himself to you if he really exists and have a plan for you and love you. You are obviously free to do whatever you want, but if you are as far as believing in God, then it would be kinda strange not to want to find out for sure who he is. It's possible you know. Contrary to what JWs and a lot of branches of christianity, we as christians do not have a blind faith.
I'd talk all day, but that's gonna look wierd. I wish you good luck with your journey. :)
Myyy best friend just woke up about the beards. he's trying Fade... i went like 7 months agoo i went.. and it felt akward and cringe... 80% ignored me like the pahrisee elders. but the loving ones hugs ect.... those are the ones who waking up. hahahah the loving ones sometimes do..... lets do another protest brooo see u maybe sometime in future... ohhh my pimo friend as im writting just popped up on whatsapp. catch ur next vid wally. keep going brooo.
You are brave! I am trying to imagine how much money I would have to be paid to attend a meeting again!!!
I went to the KH for the public talk today and half the men have beards now. The Men that are over 55 didn't have a beard but ppl in their 30s 40s and early 50s did. Also, the speaker from another KH had a beard.
I loved troll wally!! Keep doing what you do. I loved the detail and backstory you gave. It really added to the story and gave context. You should do more podcast style shows.
You're a better man than I am. I'm never going back.
AMEN
Same here.
That's what I said! 😂
Before you know it your going to filling out a time card at the KH.
😂😂😂😂
They don't count time anymore no card reports by the end of the month
My advice is next time go to a meeting in another state. 😀
I'll never go to kingdom hall again
I’m at the edge of my seat with this one. Not even halfway through yet.❤
Wow Wally you answered in the watchtower as well, that is amazing, this is boss level trolling.
The thought of going to the hall gives me the ick.
I went to a meeting once after being inactive for 2 years and I was still unsure if I believed it or not. It was the most bizarre experience. When you’re not indoctrinated, wow are they weird 😂😂😂 That was 10 years ago. I can’t even imagine going now. You’re a brave man!!
No more of those sleep inducing meetings. I will always remember being sleepy at those meetings. Then when the meeting is over, I would be, all of a sudden, wide awake. There would always be this burst of euphoria when leaving. The kind of euphoria that comes from removing a painful and failing tooth out of my mouth.
That would be like a person going back to prison or a mental assylum.
Re-entering a Kingdom Hall feels like the Twilight Zone filled with friendly, smiling robots who take great delight when one angel can slaughter 185,000 Assyrian soldiers in one night.
We would get along so well! So much in common! I love your posts and personality! I will consider you a friend even though we will never meet. You make me laugh! Keep it up! Lots of love! Your friend of like minds.
They locked the door because of people setting fires, bomb threat, vandalism.
Right. That part is for safety. From the comments saying it’s creepy seems like people think you’re locked in lol. You can easily go out.
But can you..........hmmmm@@pocahontas4583
They started doing that at around 2016 2017 in the congregation I was in. And when they started doing that, my daughter said no more this is creepy as hell. I am never bringing my children in there again. And, whenever we would go outside to walk the children, a brother would follow us out, stay with us the entire time, which children have energy that they need to burn off and we don’t spank or beat the children when they express their energy. We just let them burn off some energy and be children. There was at least one elder the entire time out there with us. It was the weirdest thing and my daughter could not handle it. And having children can make you late because you have responsibilities to take care of. It doesn’t matter the time of morning you get up or how hard you try to be somewhere on time things happen, but they lock doors and you can’t get in. That was a huge red flag for my daughter. It freaked her out and she never went back.
Ex cult members can be very angry about being abused by the cult. That's why they vandalize kingdom halls.
@@pocahontas4583
No, you’re locked out.
Thanks for the info, Wally! You took one for the team! I can't believe I wasted so much time listening to a load of BS. Seems like some still don't even know basic doctrines! Nothing has changed, they can all go back to sleep. So grateful for celebrating my first proper Christmas and new year! Happy new year, Wally and Zeezee 🥰🎉🥂🍾
Happy New Year Wally! May 2024 be a safe and prosperous year for us all and full of great Wally content!
No, not for me. I don't even stop and chat at the people by the chart. Whatever was said to my mom at a parent/teacher conference back in 1980 convinced my mom that she shouldn't force her children to attend these JW meeting (I was 11 years old at that time, or 12) Now I am in my mid 50's and glad for that.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
If I’m ever somewhere I don’t know who they are. Lol
This one time I was with my elderly parents and my sister who is a witness, I saw a cart of them. So I directed everyone to walk that way. I was further up than they because ma had a Walker. I’m like, “OMG yer Jehovah witnesses” they say, “yes we are.” They be so nervous anyone talk to them 😂! I then say, “ma these are Jehovah Witnesses!” (I’m reinstated at this point) (but I’m an asshole and didn’t never believe in this but, I needed help and that’s the only way I could) anyhooo… My whole family into this shit right?! Bahahaha 😂 I say, very loudly! 😂 I say, “I always wanted to learn about this religion!”! “Ma! Here’s your religion 😂!” Everyone turned red!!! I’m laughing my arse off. I then say can I have one of each? They start putting them all together the literature. I put it in my mas’ basket! My mom flipped 😂😂😂. Rachelle stop that! 😂😂😂 she takes it out hands it back! 😂 I tell the cart people they all be witnesses! 😂😂😂
I’m an ass 😂😂😂😅
Wally you are the man. 😊
That's approximately 2 hours of your life that you'll never get back now.
Thanks for the nye hangout, happy new year buddy I hope this year goes even better for you you deserve it!
For me the extra 2 hours after the meeting was the worst. My dad was a chatty Cathy and would always be the last one out.
I have incredibly vivid nightmares about being at the kingdom hall and conventions. Nothing particularly scary is happening, I'm simply there as my current self. And all the insecurity and guilt and this looming fear is overwhelming and feels like a nightmare.
You have BIG BALLS to step in there again
I will never put my kids near a hall. They ruined my childhood. 16 years of lockup. I had enough. Never. SCREW this place.
Happy New Year Wally! I enjoy your content and appreciate all the updates. I disassociated myself many years ago. I feel so sorry for those who are still misled by those false prophets. So many sincerely believe that the hogwash comes straight from Jehovah's mouth to the governing body's ears and equate obedience to them as faithfulness to God. So sad. Oh, and telling a bunch of grown-ass men that they give them permission to grow a beard says it all. Power, control, manipulation, and most of all narcissism (we are the elite and you will do what we tell you, or you will die - but we reserve the right to change our stand at will). How can they not see it???
And they refuse to apologize for anything, no matter how difficult or deadly their rules are!
Because some of them are just too dumb to see the falseness of the religion.
What , they change, they go wise from the Bible, why? You hate them, they done that to Jesus teaching,, People don't like JEHOVAH God Almighty, semple, all lies , you are all lieyer,, Love Jehovah God, whit All your heart, semple,, He is not Honest, thus guy
Oh you brave soul, and you managed to get two comments in with no study preparation! I watched this video around 1am and you got quite a lot of views. I remember going to the kh with a hangover, but told people I was getting the flu, and yes they bought it, lol! Cheers Wally and have a great year.😁
Most of them probably don’t know it’s a spin off of Adventist. I only found that out a few months ago and was born in. My mom was a hardcore pioneer, one of the ones they’d pair inactive folks up with to get reactivated and everything and I can guarantee (if she was alive to ask) if I asked her she’d say she didn’t know it came from the Adventist movement.
They like to hide some of the history from us because it shows the cracks and fissures that have always been there. Kinda like the whole reason we were not allowed to wear a beard to begin with.
I was born in, and I hadn't known about the Adventist connection either.
I also was a born in. Many many years ago, I went through a time in my life when I wanted to know everything about the cult. I was still in high school. I really dug into trying to find out everything. I mostly kept my discoveries to myself. I just felt that I needed to know. The more that I discovered, the more I needed to know. It was a quest. I was never close to Jehovah witnesses anyway. Being born into it, you would think that I would be. They seemed so odd to me. Intrusive, is the best word to describe them. They wanted to know everything I was doing and they were not at all shy about asking me about it. From a young age I learned to keep my mouth shut. Because I saw what could happen if you didn't. I didn't trust anyone in the cult. I couldn't understand kids my age who would spill their guts to these people. I so wanted to take them aside and tell them to tell them nothing. But, I couldn't trust them either. They would probably run to tell the elders. Couldn't trust them. No matter how benign the subject, you weigh every word. Some of the elders hated that. They were sure I was up to no good. Some of the cult members thought that I was just backward but I wasn't. I was just careful.
@@jimbobaggans1564
Great story, jimbo. I'd been a complete "believer". Four years ago, I realized that I had neither "worldly" friends nor JW friends. And I'd come to the realization that I couldn't trust ANY JW with my thoughts. So, I read Crisis of Conscience. Such a revelation! It was like the Jim Carey movie "the Truman show".
Isn't that unbelievable? You have an organization that hides it's roots: Adventistism, Russell the pyramid, Russell and his beard. Hi Wally, dig into the founding of JWs for us sometime please.
PS 😅 They don't want their members to know about the TRUTH when it comes to JW org. And they have very successfully kept the truth hidden from their members.
It's like going back to a toddlers class - "now repeat after me..."
Also. I'd be tempted to setup a mock stall on the sidewalk in front of a kingdom hall, selling fake beards (like in Life Of Brian) and tight pants. And surely someone's made a clown mask of Stephen Lett by now. It's hard to ridicule a mob so ridiculous, but someone's gotta try.
How did you even stomach to set foot through those doors??? I wouldn’t be able to keep a straight face at this point.. during those horrible songs and boring talks!! I really don’t think I could physically sit more than 15 minutes if that.. and listen to that word,salad!!!
Mother raised me as a JW. Dad rescued me at ~ 11. Never looked back.
Wish I could have been you…
What you said about your cousin really resonated with me. I feel exactly the same whenever I see people I used to know, on social media or in the street doing cart stuff....
They're so stuck in time, it's really sad. They're frozen in state just doing nothing.
Nothing in life to reach for, nothing to achieve, no progress to make. All stuck in this weird limbo, getting older and life passing them by.
I wonder what we look like to them...
Wally, HAPPY NEW YEAR to you.
May 2024 be productive in exposing these modern day Pharisees as they practise heresy their style.
So the beard thing is just to go with the movie The Choosen and because they can't keep denying Jesus had long hair with a beard 😂
It has been 20 years since I stepped in a Hall. Everytime I think about going in I remember that I don't want to break my streak
That was an interesting visit but it must have been so painful sitting through a whole meeting.
I was thinking the same thing. So painful to sit through.
Beard watch 🧐 that's hilarious 😂
I have seen it all in the bOrg. I went from northern Maine to Southern Florida and back to Maine and being in so many different KH's and congregations, you meet some interesting people and see and hear about crazy shit happening.
One of the craziest things I have witnessed was the demise of a whole congregation in Florida. An elder had a huge party and people got hammered and some crazy stuff happened like wife swaps and drugs. Servants, pioneers, elders all there or at least most of them as well as a good portion of the congregation. When it got out that it happened, the Circuit Overseer and District Overseer went to the Hall and dismantled the entire body of elders and servants. They DF'd a ton of people. My KH was in a neighboring town, so the DO and CO asked elders and pioneers to go to that hall to keep it going. That was the craziest thing I ever saw. that was in Florida in the 80's.
That is sooooo funny!!
Damn I went to the wrong hall. I'd get reinstated if I could go to a hall like that! 🤣🤣🤣
Escaped the Tower 10 years ago, after being captive for 12 years. DF twice couldn't see myself going back after last. I had always asked the beard question to the elders and WT, since they bugged me about my Law Enforcement career, carry a weapon, blood guilt potential, blah blah blah(34 years of service and counting). Yup, those 1960's rebels' beards hang on their faces, like banners of societal disappointment. It grows naturally like the real truth, breeds confidence and positive demeanor. However, the Tower preached it must be cut, and cleaned up, like the hopes of All JW's and friends. The Tower participants and captives can't go around looking like Russelites now can we Judge Rutherford. Now, 2024 The Tower has "Allowed" the swag of the beard to walk its hallowed halls of Bethel once again, but the friends better not say Shit!! because we know what's right for our sheepeople. Perhaps The Tower in another decade or two, may stumble in the "Truth" and find the Bible does not direct, condone or direct its organization to practice Shunning of its members family etc. This is a mind control method used and practice in cult entities and never has it been scriptural or decent on any level, but maybe just maybe, I might get my family back.
Mic Drop,
And yes it’s mostly older people because once you become a JW your time is monopolized too much to function as someone in their 20s-30s would who has a full time job, kids, etc.
Lyrics from Radiohead:
"After years of waiting, nothing came
As your life flashed before your eyes, you realize
I'm a reasonable man, get off, get off, get off my case"
It was my leitmotiv when I left JW 20 years ago!
I am not involved with Jehovah’s Witnesses at all but I find it so interesting to learn about.
As an apostate I like to say thanks for the update haven't been it 30 years but still sounds the same. Kinda sad
I'd never shun you hun! Been there done that & ran for freedom on my 18th. Still standing strong on the otherside bro. Never been soooo happy-go-lucky. Loving your videos they affirm how right I was when I awoke aged14 following child abuse since birth. I too am a happy SURVIVOR of this cult. Never wanted to be someone's baby machine 😂😂🤣😁 Happy New Year fella xx
Continue to enjoy your freedom on the other side and don't go back to that place, where you will be among scammers, sinners and con artists.
Places that remind me of meetings or conventions give me horrible anxiety.
Omg, that’s epic!!!
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18.34 that's basically me at the meettings lol. I have absolutely zero interest in being there, and see it as a waste of my time. I see no reason as to why I should be engaged. Tho I have been like that for years (before I woke up I mean,) it's gotten so severe to the point that my parents have started to take notice in the past year or so. I don't try as much when getting ready to go, and I don't study anymore (for obvious reasons) but yea. this could be part of the reason why young ppl are so disconnected ata the meetings. Its getting very tiring to constantly spend 2 hours of my life that I cant get back, twice a week. Also meetings are very boring lol
Well if you haven't left the cult already, you will. Just a matter of time. One day you will say, enough of this. I am amazed that they are able to keep anyone anymore.
@jimbobaggans1564 Thanks for the support. I'm not ready to live on my own yet, but as soon as I can, I can guarantee that I'll never step foot inside a kingdom hall again, lol.
It sounds like your visit/experience was very insightful!! Sounds like a victory to me.
Really enjoyed this story Wally.
No change then. Although not baptised I went to a lot of different halls an a few studies. In every hall I went to there was always dramas, falling outs, lots of gossip and sisters and brothers not speaking to each other.
Yet they still put out there that everyone gets on, all races get on.
When I first had a study I was encouraged to give up all my friends and have ‘real ‘ friends. Until I realised that too many sisters were doing much worse things than my worldly friends. Much worse. ❤
What are these much worse things?
Do they have a choir?? Wow!!
Wally Wally! Love it! Commenting is one of their exclusive members only type activities because rarely would a visitor comment (from my experience) and yet you did it in such a way that made them think. It also made them them nervous 😬 😂. Even though what you said was true, it was psychologically threatening. It was so unexpected that it shook them out of their trance. Well done! I hope you are okay after that, those encounters can be triggering.
I appreciate the update. I'm not surprised by your report....it was a funny story though 😄
my dad just stayed with me for a few days. i haven’t been a jw for a few years but never got df’ed. hes still an elder and takes the watchtower, gave me a shock when i saw him, hes started growing a beard! couldn’t help but feel sad for him, how crazy is it to let someone else dictate how you grow your own hair?
Wally you and your experience is valuable! And a half k people nearly found this video and you to be of value already this year!❤
Wow, this was perfect! 😂😂😂. I imagine that witch that ruined everyone's fun because of her frustrations, damn! By "everyone" I mean "us". On the other hand, I think elderly people have their own style by now, and it's quite normal, in my opinion, not to change it by growing a beard!
Last, but not least, I could never set foot again in a kh, my brain would explode as an effect of boredom!
Happy New Year, everyone, may 2024 be the best year of all! 🎉🎉🎉🥂🍾
Edit: champagne for all!
Wally stirring the pot over here
I beg to differ with you Wally. It's not the sister-in-law who is not too bright; it's her husband. She is having her cake and eating it too. Baby cakes, that is! 🤣🤣🤣
They lock them here too (Netherlands), shortly after the shooting in Germany. But on topic of beards, I saw one cart Pioneering.
So I have found the whole beard thing to be extremely interesting. It’s pretty much the last nail in the coffin for why we left. My husband had a goatee. It was for a health reason. That didn’t matter. It was as bad as if “he wore a yellow suit to the hall”. Yes. That was really said. Anyways it won’t make a difference to the majority because it’s not so much the wearing of a beard but the ATTITUDE that you must have to wear one. Never again will I allow someone to say what we can wear or think. I have to say that we were both raised in “the truth”. Leaving in our late 30’s was completely life changing. No regrets. I have my husband and children because I was in it. All things happen for a reason. But no going back.
Hopefully this will wake up a lot of people. Congratulations on your exit to freedom!
I’ve been in a kingdom Hall exactly twice since I left, both times for funerals. I left before the broadcasting started- and wowie is it incredibly strange to see multiple screens on the walls!
Regardless of the location, a Kingdom Hall is a sad, hollow place; I can feel the bad vibes immediately upon pulling up.
In March it will be 30 years since I last stepped in a KH...I will keep it that way.
My dad is 85 year old elder and he is growing a beard
I'd rather declare bankruptcy than step foot in a KH again.
Oddly specific but same
I went back into a kingdom hall. I was curious what it would be like. I went because my niece wanted me to go. She and her husband are both still in. I finally had to just come out and tell her that I would never be a Jehovah witness. She said that she was sorry to hear that. I should have told her long before I did. It made things a lot better. Now, no more asking me if I am going to the memorial. It's nice. She doesn't suggest for me to go to the kingdom hall anymore. It's so much nicer all the way around. Oh, and she has never shunned me. Even when I got married in a Presbyterian church. I guess that is a serious infraction. (I got called to the back room over that.). What a joke! I guess the elders thought that they could cancel my birthday over it. Only to find out that I didn't give a rats. Lol
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@@jimbobaggans1564 Good for you :) !!!!
The looks on their faces when they realize they've lost their power over you are priceless.
A bunch of uneducated, misogynistic appliance repairmen pretending to know how to run the world. Pathetic.
Omg your comments are fantastic!! I wish I was brave enough to troll a congregation! 🤩
I’m from UK I went to a KH in Florida just after Covid and was surprised they had locked doors. I later spoke to an Uber driver who said her Pentecostal church had security but that was because the stayed open during the pandemic and got death threats. That’s Florida though
So will she tell your family you were there? Not that it matters.
Thanks Wally for being brave enough to go back to a meeting. I don't think I could go back and visit one of the meetings even if somebody paid me $1,000.
I'd do it for 1000 dollars :P
I don't have the stones to go to a KH, even if I was begged to go back. For some weird reason the meetings, WT study and everything would put me to sleep. Was a really good sleeping potion. Thank God I don't snore. Looking forward to more informative and entertaining videos in the new year.
Where did you find Zeeze's cat tree? Lightfoot needs a new one. His hammock looks like it had an encounter with a weed eater and lost. Hope you have a wonderful New Year, stay happy and healthy, enjoy life and have a kick ass day.
I rarely made the meetings. But when I did I would be sleeping through them entirely.
Hey Wally. I completely get what you mean about your personality vs. someone like your sister in law. I am like you. I hate talking about the price of ham or the new car that the neighbors got. I want to talk about interesting ideas! Science and philosophy and the deep questions of reality. And when I find myself around inane incurious people, I get antsy and annoyed. I think we would have been fast friends. Anyway, I think you are very brave to go back to the hall. And your sister in law's cousin? She's just jealous. You are confident and self-assured. You don't have that hollow stare zombie witness thing going on. I'll bet you positively glowed when you walked into the kingdom hall. How could she not be filled with resentment at your obvious vitality?
One of your very best!
I had my niece and her elder husband&17 yr old sonand my daughter and her elder husband over this weekend.… all 3 were sporting beards.
Happy New Year Wally
With the relative of your sister in law turning around I think of this song I would apply to Jehovah's Witnesses, "It's a Small World After All." With 8 million members or so it is a small world that's interlinked. My last meeting was a Memorial in 2014 in a hotel in Wheat Ridge, Colorado and there were people there I once knew. What was strange at the time was I had already done things that would have easily gotten me disfellowshipped; but I would disassociate in June 2014 after remarrying and joining another church.
I moved 2-3 towns down. Not seen a single JW from the local area when out (I think they are all over 55 here :P ). But seen the elder 3 towns down having a pub lunch here! XD
That’s crazy I was born in Wheat Ridge. I didn’t grow up there though
@@shawnchristianson324 Me too (December 1979; Wheat Ridge but originally from Arvada.)
@@ZachtheArvadite since you were from Arvada, did you know Ray and Marsha Reich?
@@shawnchristianson324 Were they in Arvada West or Lake Arbor? My home congregation was Lake Arbor until April 2004 when I moved to Montana.
I am so happy that all of You are doing the work I realy should do, and tell everybody to get out in time, or you will be unhappy for the rest of your life, thanks ........Get out of the cult.....
According to the "Elders" book, 2023 updated version; Apostasy is defined as "A Stepping Away From True Worship" or the Truth. BUT!!! According to the Bible, Apostasy is defined as not believing Jesus is God's Son. Which I thought that was interesting how the GB writing team skirts around the Bible's definition of Apostates. So this allows the HATE SPEECH to Bloom like a 🌷 Tulip Field! So my wife called me an Evil Apostate a few days ago. 😮😊!😂! 😅! You can tell I was really broken up about that after enduring 8 days if shunning inside my in home. Including being told that she has friends that will hurt me so bad I will never recover! Meaning near death, or death. The definition of Apostasy in their Secret Elders Book is written in such a misleading way because it does not say that they believe they are the only true religion! Yet we know they denied that they were the only true religion in the Australian Commission! 😮
With That Said (Wall-E) Have A Happy New Year!!!🎉BE SAFE!
I would like to say that I thoroughly enjoyed hearing that u trolled the entire hall with ur comments lol. I hope to get to a point in my deconstruction process that I could troll a witness like that. Rn I can barely troll a singular witness, much less an entire congregation, so what u did was quite impressive to me.
I called my JW sister to discuss the about face on the beard policy. She accepted this change like she does all direction from the GB, like a good little sheep without question. I asked her if she was now going to grow a beard as a result but she failed to see the humor. I mentioned that there's nothing in the Bible forbidding the celebration of birthdays either but like a good little sheep she'll need to hear it from the GB before believing that. The indoctrination runs deep.
There are only two birthdays mentioned in the bible.
At both, a murder occurred.
There are only two birthdays mentioned in the bible.
At both, a murder occurred.
Hold my beer wally im going back this Sunday...... nope give me my beer back cant and wont ever throw my shoe in there without my foot in it lol. Happy new year wally..
. When I changed congregations, once, the overseer of the new one told me that I had to stand up in the front row facing everyone there as he introduced me in order make sure that I was not moving to HIS congregation because I was attempting to hide some kind of sin that I had recently might have publicly committed.
I asked my brother how many are growing beards in his congregation, he said 2.
Great story telling. I was very entertained. I to am this type of troll and appreciate the bravery this kind of troll takes. Thanks for sharing it.
Gosh Wally, thanks for your undercover reporting about the beards and other news. I have zero desire to ever go again, even for funerals (which are mostly a WT commercial). My hubby has had a goatee since the 90’s and took so much BS over the years, non of it scriptural. I always had to laugh, mostly in disgust, when the elders and MSs would grow beards on vacation. Such hypocrites.