Going to BotW feels like going home. I don’t think that’ll ever change for me. Also, I get what you mean with the vibes. BotW made me feel lonely and I understood the weight of the calamity. It was emotionally moving. TotK didn’t do that for me
I also prefer towers in botw over totk for many of the reasons you mentioned but the first thing I noticed missing a lot from botw was being able to use the towers to get a better lay of the land and plan out where you want you want to go next. Being shot up in there air is cool and it gives you a lot of height to easily glide wherever. But you end up having to quickly decide which direction you wanna start diving towards as you start falling closer to the ground it’s hard to really gauge where things are that high up too. Fast traveling to a tower in botw and chilling there while looking out at the landscape is just the perfect vibe and atmosphere and that experience is mostly absent in totk.
Very good point. The towers in totk perfectly kept up the fast pace. But this is what made made botw BETTER. you didn't feel rushed . Totk felt like. Yeah you seen all this before hurry up to the water temple. Even if you screwed around you had this feeling that you had to keep moving . Botw. Felt slower. You could take things in slower and at your pace. And the tower is the perfect example of that.
Very good point. The towers in totk perfectly kept up the fast pace. But this is what made made botw BETTER. you didn't feel rushed . Totk felt like. Yeah you seen all this before hurry up to the water temple. Even if you screwed around you had this feeling that you had to keep moving . Botw. Felt slower. You could take things in slower and at your pace. And the tower is the perfect example of that.
To me, the main problem with totk would be that its just that the surface world isnt so interesting to explore anymore. I mean in botw there was the constant threat of being sniped by guardians, encountering a hinox or lynel but in tears of the kingdom the map is soo large and with the abilities it feels like there's too much yet too little to do. In botw I climbed and made the treck through the mountain path to zora's domain but in totk I just fucking glided over everything with rockets, rewind, wings and towers. I don't get the same feeling travelling in totk (even on the ground, on horseback) unlike botw where the land is massive but still interesting and just small enough that you can get around anywhere in a small amount of time. It might just be a 'me', problem but I liked botw because of its world that didn't have the issues that I usually have with open world games. Totk reintroduced these problems for me.
yeah i agree... in botw the path to zoras domain was a gauntlet that you were pretty much forced to go through linearly. in totk, you can just skip the entire thing. It feels like that's a good way to describe the whole game. with the towers shooting you up so far you dont need to explore the world. you can just fly.
@@soc7967 yeah me too. I hate games that force you to make up your own rules to have fun. why can't the game just BE fun on its own? I don't get it? The freedom this game has really sucks the fun out of it for me, I think. Nothing has depth because you can just spam flurry rush, eat thousands of stored meals, and build a flying machine. Idk, I wish they limited you more often (such as in shrines!!! those r really good)
I believe TOTK is objectively better than BOTW. Yet, I had so much more fun, mystery, nostalgia and excitement from BOTW. I put nearly 300 hours in BOTW and only 125 in TOTK. I haven’t even completed the shrines in TOTK. I kind of just got bored. It feels empty yet overwhelmingly full. It’s hard to explain. It’s a great game tho
I do think ToTK has a lot of objectives to complete, but it’s very tedious due to being copied and pasted. The Sky and Depths were disappointing because of the tedium.
@@frewtlewps1152do you know what I hated most in depths? That they needed the expandable resources to even get around them. + They were gloomy and boring
I think personally I was disappointed at how similar the games are. The plot is just completely recycled. Most of the enemies are the same and most of the game play is the same. It feels less like its own game and more like an over hyped DLC. I was already tired of some of it from the start. The combat is pretty uninteresting because I’ve already killed a million goblins lizards and lynels in botw.
Also cmon. Link isnt bob the builder dude. Does it not feel out of character? Ultrahand shouldve been like a combat ability or something. Link is a warrior. A dude who has to be light on his feet. Whats cooler? "The great warrior scaled the wall with insane speed and stamina barely making it to the top of the ledge, paraglided down past many enemies who he propeller attacked, then drop attacked the puzzle button" or...."link hoverbiked over the bad guys, built a ladder then glued it to the wall, then dropped a ball on a puzzle button from 30ft away"...then he literally did a baby puzzle and put triangles in triangle holes and squares in square holes....oooo
@@Abstract27042 link is not as much a self insert character as people like to believe they just dont have to hire a voice actor if they make him not talk and then get ths convenience of the silent hero. Bc link is extremely visually distinct and he is short and no one wants to play as a short guy w girly hair and he is broke and not chasing women. So he in no way represents the average guy like a studio ghibli is for girls. There is one specific kindof guy that would relate a lot to link. Just bc you can stand on a box or make a wall doesnt mean youre link any more than any other game thats ever been made where you can "make choices". This is also the game that has the least about of personality from link meaning the whole game is really out of character for link and it is designed that way so in a way youre correct but youre correct about a bad decision. At that point why not just play any other first person creator game? Where link is just removed. Its literally a boring and not actually versatile crafting game with link floating infront of the object youre just point and clicking on. Which is also lazy. Like put link on your computer wallpaper and then drag and drop something with your mouse. Link doesnt even have to be there for the game. And if you compare the building to any other building game it absolutely sucks. Love zelda though and i like the design of the game but im not gunna eat a crap sandwich with link on it and not be offended.
BotW was my first Zelda game, but I wholeheartedly agree. TotK feels like the overtly ambitious remake that removed more atmosphere for a longer experience
When I found a shrine in BotW, I was happy and looking forward to the creativity inside. In TotK I often didn’t want to enter these shrines because it was almost all the time a minecraft-like building game which I really didn’t like. It’s a pity.
Late to the party but THANK YOU! I like Tears of the Kingdom, but Breath of the Wild just vibes with me so much more. The atmosphere, the mood, the melancholy, it works perfectly to make you care about the things you do!
They could've done so much more with Riju, Buliara and the rest of the Gerudo considering how Ganondorf is a Gerudo. Riju is 18 by the time it got to Tears of The Kingdom. Her bodyguard is Buliara who is the best Gerudo warrior, and who no doubt trained Riju. And yet the first scene we see of Riju in Tears of The Kingdom is her missing a target by a country mile. It just leaves me thinking that the Champions were already spirits - why couldn't they have just made them the Sages? I like the Sages, but the only Sage I thought to be somewhat competent is Sidon, and I still don't understand why Tullin is a Sage and Teba isn’t. Riju is in the leadership position in Gerudo Town, and yet she's a Sage, so the argument of 'Teba is now the Chief of the Rito' doesn't hold up that well, hell, Sidon became King of The Zora so I don’t see how Teba couldn't have been the Sage.
Also, in regard to Rauru - instead of cutscenes in dragon tears that are likely watched out of order - instead, Nintendo should've gone the extra mile and had a playable Zelda in these segments. It would've been so cool to see Zelda's power grow under the training of the Zonai, whilst getting to use her to battle enemies in the past.
You're not alone! I similarly think BotW was the better game, and agree with near all your arguments. The biggest sticking point for me wasn't the shrines, though, it was the story. Personally I think TotK's story is better _in concept_ but the execution was just fumbled so badly (like everything to do with the past and present sages, how easy it was to accidentally do something out of order and eff up the story for yourself, and how one dimensional and underexplored Ganondorf was) that it dragged the entire experience down for me. BotW's story was much simpler, but at least I felt like there was actual care given to all of its characters. The dungeons were another biggie. Visually they were much more interesting than BotW's, but mechanically? They were braindead easy. Absolutely zero challenge at all. I'd rather take a visually boring puzzle that actually makes me think about its solutions than what TotK's gave us. The shrines were just an echo of this problem for me; similarly too easy and seemingly less inspired on the whole. And finally, the world of TotK just didn't do enough for me. With the overworld being largely the same as BotW's, that left only the depths, sky islands, and various caves and wells to spice things up. But the depths were empty drab wastelands, the sky islands repetitive with the majority of its puzzles and layouts, and the caves/wells nearly entirely copy-paste. It was exciting for the first few hours, then got dull af. I really wish they had made more of an effort to include unique environmental story telling with these areas. The lack of discoverable lore was one of my biggest gripes with BotW, and they somehow had even less of it in TotK. Ofc that's not to say TotK didn't have some areas it excelled in -- the enemy variety, for example, was much, much improved; the weapon combining alleviated many of the weapon breaking frustrations from the first game; and ascend is hands down like my favorite ability in any game ever! But, just.... how the overwhelming majority of people view TotK as better in nigh every way just completely flabbergasts me lol. So it's nice to stumble upon someone who finally feels much the same as I do! Phew, I didn't mean for this comment to get so long but I guess I just had a lot to get off my chest about the game LOL!
The story is literally the opposite. Breath of the wild is better in concept but TOTK had significantly better execution. Breath of the wild basically didn’t have a story because of how disconnected it was. The devs were just paranoid of anything linear. I think 3 of the memories are directly connected to each other, and the king and impa are the only other sources of story. Champion’s ballad expanded on it well, but that only made the story passable compared to genuine garbage. Tears of the kingdom got the perfect balance of linearity and freedom. There’s a clear-cut order, but you don’t have to take it if you don’t care. Regardless, the payoff stays the same so long as you get them all.
I am a legend of Zelda fan for almost 20 years now. My favourite game was always A link to the past, because I loved the fact that exploration was more important than the story. Newer games like twilight princess, spirit tracks and skyward sword were still great games, but they had way to much story and were to linear for me. Thats why I adored breath of the wild so much. Finally it was a game that went back to the routes and put more focus on exploration and kept the story simple. I was looking foreward so much for tears of the kingdom. Now I own it and must say, I am very much dissappointed. I don't want to cheat the game with creativity. I don't want dull and annoying sidequests that consist of mending things together. I just want to walk around the world, enjoy the landscape, fight some bosses and find some secrets from time to time. I really have trouble finishing tears of the kingdom. I am bored with this game so much.... I see that there are a lot of people who feel excactly the other way around. Thats good for them. Each and everyone their own opinion :)
Love this! Especially that last sentence. Can tell you are epic 😂 my favorite so far are Minish Cap and Link Between Worlds. Playing Zelda II rn and actually really enjoying it
Breath absolutely nailed the atmosphere. It really felt like a land swept up in the lingering effects of an almighty cataclysm, a great disaster that brought a once mighty nation to its knees. It felt like the world was holding its breath, bracing for the next eruption. The danger was clear and imminent, but not immediate. You could drag your feet and do side activities, and in fact, you’re encouraged to, as many of them are relevant to the main goal. There’s important stuff to do, but there’s no rush. Zelda is holding down the fort for us. Saving the world can wait. For now… Tears, on the other hand, feels all kinds of weird. There’s a disconnect between the story and gameplay that wasn’t there in Breath. On the one hand, Ganondorf is back. Remember that massive earth-shattering calamity from last time? Yeah, that was just a malignant ooze that had been passively seeping out of this guy. Now he’s back in full, stronger than he has ever been before, there’s nothing holding him back like last time, and Hyrule is absolutely screwed. He could strike at literally any time. What should we do? “Yeehaw, go carts go VROOOOM!” “Yahaha! I found you!” “Yes, I will visit every stable to investigate rumors of mysterious voices in the night and the illustrious All-Clucking Cucoo.” “Not to worry! I’d be happy to provide for you a picture of a Goron in a hot spring. I’ll be back in a few days.” “Today, I do believe I shall take some time to sort out the matter of Hateno’s mayoral election.” These things may be interesting, but they feel so out of place. The main story demands immediate action, except it doesn’t because our all powerful villain is just chilling down in a pit for every second of it. If Ganon does literally anything at all before we decide we’re done building hover bikes and death robots, it’s game over. It’s like Fallout 4 again, where my baby gets kidnapped and then hours later, I’m building a house and planning out my farm. The distractions make sense in Breath. They absolutely do not in Tears. There’s a sense of urgency that is completely at odds with the entire concept of the game. And I think that’s the main reason why I couldn’t get into the sequel like I could the first game. That, and Ultrahand breaks the game to the point where I completely lost interest in solving any puzzles. But that’s another rant.
Going back to BotW after completing TotK felt like coming home. TotK was too easy, too messy..too soul-less. Not a bad game by any means, but BotW is so much better ❤
I’m gonna say, I had much more fun in TotK but it didn’t amaze me as much as BotW did. The novelty BotW had was on a whole new level. TotK is a 10/10 game for the first 45 hours or so, once the novelty dries over, it becomes so monotonous it becomes overwhelming to keep playing.
YES I 100% agree. I felt a lot more burn out with tears of the kingdom. Sure Ultrahand and zonai devices allowed for a lot but became monotonous quite fast
To be honest totk is a better game. But I had more fun playing botw for the first time then totk. I think totk and botw are both very good games and I think they are equaly as good.
I think personally I was disappointed at how similar the games are. The plot is just completely recycled. Most of the enemies are the same and most of the game play is the same. It feels less like its own game and more like an over hyped DLC. I was already tired of some of it from the start. The combat is pretty uninteresting because I’ve already killed a million goblins lizards and lynels in botw.
@@ava4689you just put my thoughts into words, i enjoyed the game but... it felt too similar to botw and u csn tell they thought of a sequel last minute instead of a different zelda
Ive gotta agree, the shrines were pretty darn boring. Half the time I could figure out what i needed to do within a minute. Or if can't, i can just cheese it with ultrahand and recall (or a rocket). I honestly just saw them as ways to get more powerful, and not their own little dungeon. Whereas BOTW... holy cow! I've never had that much fun in a Zelda game.
Exactly! My exact thoughts. Yeah, being able to attach rockets to shields and bring them into shrines was iffy at best 🤣 I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought this 🥳
@@rpgranked sounds right😁. I definitely did like that the BotW abilities actually forced you to think and actually solve the puzzle. Whereas TotK you can just cheese it
I agree. Personally to me in both games the shrines were annoying. I want to explore and have fun and after a certain point shrines were just a complete chore to do. And thats part of what I dont like about totk. Theres just MORE SHRINES. No new interesting thing. Just re skinned high numbered tedious level ups. There couldve been more to be done. But instead of making something new they just recycled the same game.
Imo the shrine system in totk is very clunky and redundant because of it being a sequel. The game devs try so hard to make it different from botw by putting them in different areas and giving it different designs but they got very boring very quickly and often were inconvenient warp points in all the villages. When I first played botw, I was so excited about finding a shrine and would get it done immediately. That kind of fizzled out so I do them a lot less when I replay it, so seeing them again in totk when I was expecting something new was disappointing. Since the shrines are new in game, there’s not many interesting things that can be done with them since botw had established lore about them way before links time. There are no ancient songs or fun gimmicks to activate them, and the reward of lights of blessings wasn’t exactly the most incentivizing. Personally I think totk could’ve been a much better game if they stopped the shrine system completely and focused on making larger more linear focused dungeons. As well as more than just the four regional ones. A game that followed 7-8 large dungeons would’ve made the game feel longer and been richer in story. Anyways, great video! You’re very entertaining to listen to.
I feel this! I feel like BOTW was perfect as is, but I feel like between two Zelda games, these were the most similar. They felt the least creatively different, even more than Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds. I do agree with you, although, the amount of fans crying for shrines back was more than enough for them to make a return... 😅
At least 1/3 of TOTK’s shrines are just Rauru’s Blessings. Either you get them from mundanely exploring a cave or bringing a crystal to the shrine. There aren’t as many unique shrine quests as there was to make you earn them in BOTW.
I very much agree that the ultrahand ability was way overutilized in shrines. I didn't like ultrahand much either, it was too clunky and time consuming, and building stuff isn't what I'm looking for in Zelda games. It felt like damn near every shrine was just building shit that I didn't want to build. The building in shrines was so boring and tedious, and even in the overworld, I found it boring and tedious. I know a lot of players got super creative with ultrahand and had a lot of fun building stuff, but that's just not what I play Zelda games for. If I wanted that, I'd just play a game that's specifically made for that. It's cool for the people who want to use it, but for those who don't, it just made the game an unpleasant experience to force us to use it not only in shrines, but also to traverse parts of the world, especially in the sky. It made the already underwhelming sky islands even worse because not only is there nearly nothing to do up there, but I'm forced to use a mechanic that I heavily dislike just to move between them. What made this even worse is that a lot of the building materials, especially the wings, disappear after a short amount of time, making sky traversal even more of a pain. And for what reason? Making the materials disappear doesnt add a fun challenge or any worth as mechanic at all. It just pisses me, and many other players off. I wouldnt say that the ultrahand mechanic shouldn't exist, but it shouldn't have been forced on the player so much. I personally felt that it took away a lot of the freedom that the developers supposedly want the players to have.
Honestly I wholeheartedly disagree and I love totk, but this is a very well thought out and well articulated video and deserves far more attention than it’s getting even though it’s controversial. Good work man
The one complaint I have for ToTK is it's vastness, there are just too many things to do and in some places there is quests for the sake of quests BoTW was a perfect balance for me. Also yes i too hate gorons, i think they are annoying and their design is wierd.
@@rafaelcosta7427 hahaha I'm sorry! I love daruk lol but idk most of them have such aggravating personalities and I can with their tiny underwear it's too much 🤣🤢
TotK gives you power, and people know you so it feels less free. In BotW you get released and you can go wherever. The game requiring you to talk to these guards, and instantly go to a town, and meet Purah just deletes the loneliness
I had similar thoughts, one thing was it was almost like a slap in the face for botw fans who went into totk and half the npcs forgot you somehow, the entire vibe felt off, like this game is a sequel, tell us what happened to all the sheikah stuff, where did all the underground/above ground sheikah shrines go, so much didnt add up it was weird, also the great plateau was objectively better than the great sky island, also upgrading and grinding in totk is way more grindy and busy work its a real shame. Still a great game but I replayed botw 4 times since my first one on wii u and 3 times on switch vs totk ill probs never play it again even though I liked it. p.s. I agree where the heck did kass go? The continuity problems in totk are severe
Totally agree. TotK felt like a boring, extensive, never-ending chore. The subterranean portion felt very one note in all directions. I didn't even go through it all. Like you, there was no need to actually explore on foot when you could just shoot up into the sky and glide to wherever you want to go precisely. I liked the sky lands a little more than the subterranean portions. I also don't care to sit there and build stuff or even fuse things, to be honest. To me, it breaks up the flow of the game. I like the feel of the rugged apocalyptic land where sometimes i have to pick up the nearest sword and just start fighting with that. I'm not going through menus fusing for attack power, I'm just fighting with what i got. I don't care for vehicles; the Zonai tech completely eliminated any fun in catching a horse, hoping that you caught a great horse. I could go on. I did spend 210 hours in TotK. I enjoyed it overall. It is a good game. But i sprinted through the last 30 hours to just beat the game and move on. I went back to BotW last night in Master Mode, and honestly, i got immediately lost in it again. It's so immersive. The towers make way more sense. They distill the information of the land into a drop of fluid that gets absorbed into the slate. That's a neat concept. In TotK, you got shot up into the sky on a tether, pointing a camera around to capture the images of the land to form the map? Idk. Seemed silly and archaic by comparison. Okay, I'm done. Sorry, that was long-winded. Great video, man.
Thanks so much! YESS finally someone agrees with me!!!! Sorry I didn't make it very clear in the video. Like, I'll say a game is 67% and people think I hate it, but that means it's 17% above an average game 😂 Like, currently, I have moved TOTK to a 70% and BOTW to a 73%. But I still thoroughly enjoyed both games! My favorite game of all time, Lost Odyssey, is still a 98% haha.
One of the biggest things that led me to not have fun in ToTK is the starting area. After dropping down not only do you not have much to look at but also your eyes are immediately assaulted with p*ss yellow plants for some reason. I get it’s supposed to be different than Hyrule but yellow just isn’t pleasing to look at. The islands shape does allow for a few hidden areas but ends up funneling everyone into a specific playstyle limiting creativity and players actually feeling like they discovered something for themselves. And the random ambient drifting clouds…. Because of them randomly moving around it makes it so I can never see all the shrines during the ‘mark the shrines’ tutorial which should be the 1 time there not present.
Great video! I agree with a lot of points here, and actually I kinda hate that TotK added this much over BotW, it makes people appreciate it less I think. Overall, I think that BotW had things executed better, and TotK can be a pretty frustrating game at times. Personally, it really upset me how much content from BotW was reused in TotK (especially the music), and it just felt a bit weak compared to how MM handled the OoT assets. Anyways, that was a really good video, with good actual points, and I hope that more people can discover your channel and appreciate your work!
The main reason why I prefer BotW is that everything you explored was new. Sure, if you’re playing TotK first it’ll all feel new, but BotW just felt way more atmospheric than TotK. Plus, the world building in BotW was far more interesting and less confusing than TotK, despite the ladder giving us answers to many lore questions from BotW. How do you screw that up? BotW was an incredible experience I had when first playing it that I’ll never forget, whereas TotK was a game that was just fun for a while. TotK is also way too repetitive. From the skies, to the depths, to the caves, to the wells, and so much more that was very lacking in variety. BotW understood the concept of “Less is more” Don’t get me wrong. Like I said, I had fun with TotK, but coming from a game that was more than something that was just fun to play is extremely disappointing
Agree with you on Hyrule castle. BOTW also had way better music in that area. 100% agree about the shrines. TOTK quests (and characters) had no...soul.
My friend keeps tryna convince me the TOTK Hyrule Castle song is better and I'm getting a feeling he's on basic white boy meth making those type of claims
Just finished watching your video, I also think BOTW is better. TOTK is a great game, and I do think there are a few better things, like the building weapons mechanic, I do like that a lot more than the weapons I find in BOTW, but generally, I think almost everything in BOTW is superior. One of the things I don't like is the sages, I don't even mind the character, I think they're cool, like, I like there personalities, but the mechanics itself it's terrible, having to go after them and click A is very jenky, the abilities that they provide are useless, Riju and Yonobu are essentially just bombs, on BOTW they were a lot more simple to activate, and also a lot more powerful, every champion power totally changed the gameplay, TOTK they are very mediocre and uncreative. The shrines and exploration on BOTW is also so much better, you had some really memorable quests to find, like helping to build terrey town, or the dragon on the mountain that you help, BOTW also had some locations specially made for the shrine, like the two ring rocks, or that windy place near the ocean, but also, the shrines on BOTW was actually a puzzle you had to solve, most of the TOTK the shrines are essentially "build something to get to the end", and that's so boring, they also are just in random places on the map, the maps and shrines don't connect anymore, TOTK don't have any shrine or side quests that are actually memorable, the quests in TOTK are just a bunch of NPCs asking for simple favors, they are not fun as BOTW, the deaphs are also so disappointing, it's just two dungeons and master kogah fight, there literally 3 missions in the entire deaphs, the rest of it, it's just copy and past enemies. BOTW was smaller, but at least it had more variety of missions. I don't like the story of BOTW That much, but at least finding the memories made sense in BOTW, also they were fun to find, you actually had to explore the map to find it, the "memories" in TOTK doesn't make any sense, also finding them it's just kinda pointless, since they are just a big mark point on the map. I also think the bosses in BOTW are better, I mean, visually they suck, but at least they actually attack you, the fight is actually challenging, TOTK bosses are visually better, but they don't attack you, they just stand there waiting for you to attack them, it's ao silly. anyway, I had fun with TOTK, but I truly don't understand people that find TOTK a better game.
Other than the bosses, I absolutely agree with everything you said here 😅 the bosses were definitely attacking me (other than Colgera... Lmao) so maybe your game was being wacky? Idk haha but anyway I totally agree with you about all this!
@@rpgranked I don't even remember the thr fight that well because it was too easy, so maybe I'm forgetting something, The only one that I think it was challenging was the one from the water temple, but still it was very easy ai think. Colgera just trow som tornadoes at you, with is very easy to avoid, the one from Gerudo also just do the same thing, he trow some tornados at you and that's pretty much it, the one from fire temple just trow some rocks, that doesn't really causes any damage. I do like the one from spirit temple, I think that one was very fun, but the rest of them, I don't know. BOTW felt more creative for me, the one from Gerudo for example, he had super speed, then you had to use the metal things to electrocute him, he also had shock on his shield and weapon at some point, it felt more like a Battle I think, TOTK bosses can be fun, but I though it was too easy.
Fair analysis! I get this! I always found it sad you could always refight all of them in the Depths except for the Spirit Temple boss because I loved that one. While Colgera was the easiest fight in the game, it was my favorite lol. I made a TOTK boss ranking if you wanna check that out :D
There wasn’t much that I could agree with, but that was still an entertaining listen! I never would have guessed that you were that young with how articulate you are. You’re well-suited to these types of videos, so if you enjoy making them, I say do more! I was surprised that you didn’t mention the depths in your atmosphere section. Also, did every category have a clear cut winner? If you didn’t present this for RUclips, would there have been any ties? And you certainly don’t have to answer this, but I’m curious-how is this video doing for likes and dislikes? I wonder what the ratio is.
Thanks so much! I have some ones in the future: FF5 vs FF3, FF7 vs FF8, TTYD vs The Origami King, etc. Eh, I thought the depths added very little to the game outside of making the fire temple and spirit temple cooler. And helping locate shrines. I loved them for about an hour but otherwise it was bad... lol About 75%, my channel average is about 90% so yeah. Honestly much higher than I expected 😁
@@rpgranked Gotcha. Everyone who I talked to was blown away when they first touched down in the depths, so I was wondering if that was just forgotten. I liked that the depths had its own ecosystems with certain items only being found down there, but there was room for improvement. 75% is higher than I expected too! Good job 😁
Dude Great video. Can’t agree more with many of your points. I’m not a builder. For some weird reason I enjoyed the building in the shrines more than I thought I would. But I like fighting. We’re not really solving puzzles by cheesing them and “getting to the end” we just skipped the puzzle. I’m 31. People don’t make fun of me at my age for liking a videogame more than another, but that may be generational and not necessarily age related. And Partitio’s theme at the end was a great choice
As much as I love both games, I get burnt out from the open world aspect after spending too much time in them despite having done the majority of the quests. It makes me hope we get a more traditional Zelda in the next installment.
@@rpgranked If they can nail the open world aspect while being able to have the same kind of progression the original games have, then that'll definitely feel refreshing. There's something fun in not having all the exploration ablities from the get-go and getting them from plot points.
@@quemsereu2009 You are expressing a BS opinion, NOT a fact. You are incapable of identifying brilliant storytelling that benefits an open world video game. This isn’t a typical low quality Hollywood corporate fascist formulaic propaganda story
I prefer TotK. More varied and longer main and side quests, more visually distinct dungeons, better bosses, more ways to approach combat, more ways to traverse, much better final battle and ending, greatly enchanced abilities and simply more content/places to explore. But BotW is still my #2 favourite game of all time, so I am not mad...
I agree. Tears of the Kingdom felt too much alike Breath of the Wild. Breath of the Wild was fantastic it was revolutionary and it changed the way Zelda played, but Tears of the Kingdom instead of innovating and revolutionizing Zelda like Breath of the Wild did it played it too safe and it felt like more of the same. It didn't change the way Zelda was played forever it felt like a Breath of the Wild 1.2 I think Tears of the Kingdom did have a little better boss fights and that was good, but I didn't like using the minecraft building vehicles in Tears of the Kingdom. For me my favorite Zelda is A Link to the Past.
Agree with everything you said here! I don't exactly think TOTK needed to re-revolutionize the series again, but that definitely gives BOTW some brownie points. I haven't gotten the chance to play A Link To The Past yet, but I'll get there soon
I disagree. I think TOTK has so much more space for creativity, and for me, it improved on almost ALL the aspects of BOTW. The only things i thought BOTW did better were shrines and champion abilities
Tears of the Kingdom was great, but for me I just didn’t get the same sense of discovery as I did when exploring breath of the wilds world for the first time. It’s pretty much the same journey, you’re going to the same 4 locations marked on your map and are going to the same place for the final boss. Would have liked it better if maybe the world you were exploring was the Hyrule from the past that Zelda gets sent to. It’s objectively a better game than botw but I had a little bit more fun playing botw for the first time.
@@rpgranked one think I will say that totk does way better in this game is the combat shrines. It got so repetitive fighting the same guardian boss over and over. I remember near Hateno village there was 2 of these shrines right next to each other which was really annoying. Totk combat shrines were a huge improvement to me with much more variety.
BOTW and TOTK together is the perfect reimagining of Ocarina Of Time! TOTK has a ton of amazing references to OOT. Both Masterpieces and should be considered as one game! TOTK perfected things and added more gameplay loops to make it more replayable than BOTW, but it’s one story- Ganon’s remains soaking as dark magic through the lands, corrupting everything like in Ocarina and then adult link fighting the real Ganon. TOTK has great references- Dodongo mini boss-as Frox, healing the Deku tree from Shadow Ganon as From Gohma in OOT. Zelda isn’t shiek but Ganon disguises himself as Zelda to cause more evil. Also making weapons is a nice reference to Dark Cloud 2, but I wish they made it deeper like cooking. So many amazing references! The only downside of TOTK is the four super similar cutscenes after each boss, also Auto build wastes space- they should have introduced another skill. Also the boss difficulty should have been far more challenging! The Lynels were better but main bosses too easy.
I love both traditional puzzle solving, and open ended puzzles where not solving the puzzle is a viable option. Also, 32 here, been a Zelda fan since Ocarina of Time, but Majora's Mask is my favourite of the Zelda games. Okami being my favourite video game. Thank you for the shout out to Final Fantasy 6, glad that game's still getting love.
1. TOTK discredits everything you did in BoTW. What is the point of that grand adventure and defeating Ganon if nothing gets resolved and he is still alive. 2. ToTK is way too big for its own good. By the time you clear a dungeon and get the materials you need you already forgot what you were doing. 3. Attaching system made this more about inventory management than focusing on the adventure. ToTK is a decent game but wish they toned it down and made something that respects the customer’s time.
Dang bro, you're 16? I'm about twice your age and it felt like I was listening to a Zelda bro. Minish cap is my second favorite right under TP. The colors, dungeon design, and four sword implementation is just great. On a handheld no less
Hahaha 😂 thanks man!!! I haven't actually got to play TP (I know, I'm a little behind), but yeah, so far, my favorites are Minish Cap, link between worlds, and the Oracle games 😅 I'm truly a 2D Zelda guy at heart 😂
Breath of the wild when it first came out along side twighlight princess was my main childhood games along side the much earlier games such as Rayman, it feels a little sad that both the community and tears of the kingdom dont refferance botw enough if not at all, the divine beasts from botw? Gone. No explanation, The many guardians that were terrorising people before? Not even a hint. I will admit i liked totk as i got see riju grown up, sidons got a wife (owch) and yunobo becoming a goron of status among his tribe, ill be honest i didn't remember tulin... On a overall I'll never forget being on vah naborus and the theme playing in the background, it was a vibe, im glad to have experienced it while i was younger so nostalgia was linked. Also i really miss the champions, they were so iconic and i don't think i hated even a single one. ... i will give that they brought ganondorf back, as i thought he was bad*ss in twighlight princess. But anyway im glad your freely expressing your opinion about the games, despite you'll get alot of people mad, especially with those with the mindset "new is always better", yes it's more efficient but in no respective is it better. (Long comment)
100% agree with all you said! I don't necessarily have nostalgia for any of the Zelda games tbh, but I totally agree with the majority of what you said!
@@shakycameratheater THANK YOU! don't worry I totally agree but you know internet culture, some people get pissed if I have an opinion 😂 of course, glad you enjoyed it!
Just stumbled across your vid and you've got a really laid back casual presenting style which I really dig. Completely agree, totk was probably my biggest gaming disappointment, I was so hyped. Just started replaying oot and within 15 mins I'm in the first dungeon. Go figure. So refreshing not having to grind and do meaningless busywork
Enjoyed the video! i am one who personally likes both games, my pet peeve is that with the sages in tears of the kingdom had no character, they wore masks and barely had a backstory unlike daruk, mipha, urbosa and rivali. i still feel like the dungeons aren't the best in breath of the wild but if you think about it tears has the same kind of loop, where you use the characters power on a switch and it unlocks a part, it just feels almost the same as botw, i will say that tears of the kingdom had better bosses though. My other issue with tears is that the sky does not have as much content as it should have, like most the islands are small and are just shrine quests. and the depths are okay but it is a bit repetitive and there are sometimes where its just straight walking ahead with nothing interesting in your way. i also dislike how the tears of the kingdom "tutorial" area takes like a couple hours to get through, in breath of the wild it could take a couple hours but it was about half an hour to an hour, witch was great but tears of the kingdoms tutorial kinda bored me, and makes me not want to make anothe save file for the reson that it is a bit longer than i feel it should be. dont get me wrong i love tears of the kingdom, and breath of the wild both as much as each other but i feel breath of the wild is stil a great experience for anyone who hasnt played botw and only played totk. anyways this was a huge read so i will finish it here, i coud talk for hours about my opinions on both games, because i love them both dearly and cannot get enough. anyways loved the video, agreed with some stuff, but honestly no hate towards totk i just think botw did some amazing things that tears of the kingdom hasnt matched to but yeah, so please anyone reading this don't reply with hate comments i love both games in their own ways, i am just putting my opinion out there.
Oh don't worry I like both games too! Just totk less... haha. Totally agree about the Sages (other than Sidon), and I agree with literally everything else you said. Also, yeah, the Old Man made the botw tutorial so charming too!! Yeah, bosses were better in TOTK but I liked the dungeons better in BOTW lol. They are both amazing games though, in the end!
@@rpgranked yeah i love both but with the sages in totk i meant the sages and the ancestors, the ancestors had no character building really , but yes sidon is one of the best characters in both games, he comes off as very welcoming and friendly. oh, and i just subbed 👌🔥
Totally agree! And thanks so much man, expect more Zelda content in the future! I've got quite a few totk videos up if you wanna check em out. Kinda in the Mario RPG mindset atm, but I'm planning on marathoning all the Zelda games soon to make more videos like this :))
@@rpgranked Thanks to you too, as from the video you are a truly nice person and i also have some whacky opinions on games, also my friend at school has this same opinion about botw over totk, and yes i can agree that if you were to go about saying that to everyone "botw is better" there is a huge chance that people would argue with you, anyways hope you have a great day man!
@@Floopydoopy4799 thanks you too! Trying my best to be nice, so thanks! One of my least favorite things in life is when people can't agree to disagree haha
One thing also that kinda annoy me is the equipment/armor in totk, there is so much different sets and all gives the same bonus stealth up, attack up etc, they feels so useless. In botw every armor felt unique with their own purpose and it felt like an achievement when you got new armor. The great fairy upgrade is also so fking expensive and there is so much to upgrade, in botw i upgraded every armor to max but i gave up that in totk whatever :D.
Top 10 all time: 🛡️⚔️ #10 A Link To The Past #9 Link’s Awakening #8 Twilight Princess #7 The Minish Cap #6 A Link Between Worlds #5 TOTK #4 BOTW #3 Majora’s Mask #2 Wind Waker #1 Ocarina of Time
Absolutely adore this list!!! Would love to hear more. I haven't played all of them yet, but I'm getting there. Will definitely make a video once I get there tho! Top 5 for me (granted, I've sadly only played 7): 5. Ocarina of Time 4. TOTK 3. BOTW 2. A Link Between Worlds 1. The Minish Cap
@@iWearCapesIRL agree here man! As much as some people do believe that, i feel like some people are inauthentic and just ramble about the impact some game made haha even if it isn't there favorite
Totk is very creativity driven. In botw, it felt that I could play the game my way without feeling the pressure to play a certain way. Compared, to totk where I feel like I'm forced to use creativity, forced to build something to complete the stage. I'm not a creative person, and I don't want to spend my time figuring out how to fuse things to make something that will only be used for less than a minute.
I loved BOTW, greatest Zelda game that reinvented open world games ! Came back to the roots of what Zelda was always about ! I wanted BOTW 2 - Tears of the kingdom is a totally different game that i just didn't enjoy, it was way too focused on constructions, i felt like i was playing an indie puzzle game and not the adventure that should be a Zelda game !
Lost Odyssey is your favorite game? Excellent taste, sir. Some of the best writing in gaming history, and graphics that were extremely impressive for the time. Have you ever had a chance to play The Last Story? It's another Mistwalker Studio game, with brilliant characters and one of the most natural and believable love stories in all of gaming. It was one of the three games brought to the US during Operation Rainfall, and as a late generation Wii game, really pushed the boundaries of what the system could do. I don't know if you emulate, but you should really try to play the game if you can. I have a copy, but they're pretty rare these days.
So good!!! It's what made me adore RPGs. Watched my dad play it when I was like 6 and 7 and he wouldn't let me play it until I was 15. No jokes, I literally cried the day he randomly told me I could play it 😂😂
I've been wanting to play it so bad! I literally have a Wii and I have the copy of the game 🤣 I just... Haven't go to it yet. Blue Dragon is my fourth favorite RPG too haha, so idk why I haven't played it yet. Mistwalker is my favorite company ngl.
@@rpgranked My dad brought home an Intellivision in 1981 and that became our first console. I remember when he finally let me play Dungeons & Dragons: Cloudy Mountain when I was 5. I had only watched him play up to that point and the monsters scared me. So yeah, I can relate!
@@rpgranked The Last Story is truly an epic story and a unique experience. There's nothing else like it. You'll grow to love the town and the people, and the minute you finish it, you'll want to play again with a different party and skills. It even has character customization, which I used to keep everyone easy to identify in the chaos of battle. Just pick a color for each character. Makes a huge difference.
BOW manage to do something awesome. I start to play, see my map, is all empty... So I need a tower! Ok lets go to that one on the east. 3 hours later, I didn't reach the tower cause im in a mountain with freezing water and a Shrine under all in the west... And all the time i was having fun.
I played TOTK more times than BOTW, but both don't really feel realistic as Zelda historically was. I understand they wanted to put open world stuff, but the dungeons are generally pretty bad in both games, and imo TOTK (except for the water temple) has better dungeons and very good pre-dungeon quests compared to BOTW. The Water Temple is horrendous in both games but in a way better than TOTK. For TOTK I am pretty sad that they didn't utilize the Ancient Zora Waterworks as a dungeon, there was a LOT of potential. One other things that BOTW has better than TOTK is the Champion abilities which are generally much smoother and simpler than what we have in TOTK. There was room for a LOT of improvement in TOTK. I wished we had these: -Original style dungeons like we had in TP for example, they are in the top in terms of Dungeons imo. -Expansion of the Kingdom of Hyrule out of its main region, since it's pretty much a copy paste of BOTW's map -Emphasis on the Triforce and detailed info about the Imprisoning War -Artifacts like we had in old Zelda games For BOTW when I bought the game: -Musics are a downgrade from past games. For me there's no debatting (imo) except Kass', Ganon and Hyrule Castle's themes -Divine Beasts are terrible dungeon, worse than what we have in TOTK imo. We know what we're gonna have to do once we've done the first Divine Beast (The only good boss imo was Kohga, and I'm dead serious, he was the only really original boss in the game). Just like TOTK, I want real dungeons back. That's just my pov though, I personally feel sad BOTW and TOTK are generally a Dungeon and Music downgrade from past games. There was room for good open worlds but they sort of made weird unfinished games.
This is a totally fair comment! Totally agree. I get why people love the games, but they aren't for me in the end. Minish Cap and LBW are my favorite haha so, I'm sure you can imagine
@@rpgranked Yes I can, and that's fair, I really liked the video and analysis. A lot of people don't like point of views that differ from others (I am talking about some people in the comments being disrespectful of your POV), but those aren't to be listened to
totk wants you to go up or go down, the middle always looks cluttered and looking up you either gonna see sky islands or clouds, gone are the beautiful skies and vistas of botw's hyrule, the sky stuff should really be invisible until you get near them, because as it is the world feels almost claustrophobic now
My first Zelda game was the gold cartridge for the NES. A Link to the Past was my favorite game as a kid. That being said, BoTW was a major disappointment to me because of how inconsequential Ganon was. Ganon was ALWAYS a menacing force. In BoTW, you could argue there are NPCs harder than him. Complete letdown for a 30 year plus fan.
I personally don't like tears of the kingdom. Haven't touched that thing in a year. Felt like a chore towards the end. That secret fifth "dungeon" really rubbed me the wrong way. I finished it because I paid money for it.
In retrospect botw will be considered the better game, even though tears improved EVERYTHING and is the updated experience. The next 10 to 15 years people will hold this as true. Its would take a disconnected generation to say nahh tears is better.
I think totk is objectively better but I have more of an emotional connection to botw. Tears of the Kingdom is probably more fun with loads of mechanics/features distractions whereas botw is more of a contemplative immersive experience. Atmosphere was a central theme of botw as the title suggests. I see totk as basically botw part 2 - part 1 was about atmosphere and experiencing the world. Part 2 more focused on filling that world with gameplay mechanics. I agree with you about the divine beast themes - some of the best compositions in a Zelda game.
I can recreate Zelda 1, Adventure of Link, A Link to the Past, Ocarina, and Links Awakening just by exploring. I haven't tried tears yet but it's weird seeing people use the word disappointing to describe a Zelda.
I mostly find it disappointing since it isn't for me haha. I feel like I'm kinda playing a weird Minecraft thing 😂 honestly, it might end up being your favorite game of all time like many people, it's really just 100% subjective. But like, for me, I'll take Oracle of Ages any day over Tears. Haha.
I’m sorry but music is going to TOTK, colgera, Intro theme, ganon battle, demon dragon battle, corrupted rito village, diving into the wind temple, enemy theme, and so much more DESTROYS the music in botw. I’m not shaming on your opinion but the dungeons in TOTK are soooooo much better then botw in my opinion, instead of the same dungeon with the same music repeated over and over again. You have different boss battles, different music, different and slightly better puzzles, and different and bigger areas. Take the lightning temple, that is better then all divine beasts combined in my opinion. Even if totk dungeons were reskins of divine beasts, doesn’t that mean their better? Better atmosphere, I give botw dungeons a 5, and totk a 7 because botw did have the worst dungeons, and even though totk are similar, totk still improves on them, entering the temples are soooo much better in totk then botw as well. Climbing higher and higher for the wind temple, defending and figuring out tri force puzzles for the lightning temple, the forgotten water works for the zora temple really nailed the abandoned feel and swimming up to the sky’s was so cool, and riding the plane to take down those death mountain monsters felt so fun. You can’t have the proving ground shrines compared the the master trial DLC, it’s a dlc and it has way more purpose then a simple little shrine you can enter along your way, that’s just not equal ranking
Every divine beast has a completely different song lol. But I get that you like the dungeons better! I just loved the idea of the Divine Beasts and I really thought the puzzles weren't really worse than those in TOTK. I will give it to TOTK, the dungeons are very atmospheric. For me, the only standout tracks in TOTK were the Colgera and Sky Island themes lol. Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion, I like seeing different opinions 🤩
@@rpgranked yeah I’m not trying to be rude, I feel it’s very hard saying an opinion without it coming out rude for some reason. They both are great games and I agree with many things from this video. I just subbed, this video was very enjoyable to compare and things!
@@BonkyBoko9 It didn't sound rude at all! Thanks for subbing! I've been trying to reach 1K for like a year haha and I've had the watch hours for like ten months 🤦🤦
I think totk abilities and movement are way more fun but there’s just something missing. I think for me it’s because totk didn’t change enough for it to feel new, but now I try and replay botw it feels boring because I miss the totk abilities. The games ruin each other lmao
Trial of the Sword and Master Mode was the best part of BOTW. The fact that TOTK won't have it, makes it the lesser game. Breath of the Wild is the better game.
Another thing I was feeling in TotK is that there is so much more fog everywhere, especially between the sky islands and the surface, which can make it very hard to see where I’m landing. Similarly, shrines have the same problem. There definitely was fog in BotW, but not nearly as much.
@@_Nightday_ fair enough!! I liked that climbing up was kinda a puzzle itself since i activated all of them early in the game but i can definitely see why you'd disagree. Thanks!!!
The algorithm knows I like videos that critique ToTK, and indeed I immediately click on this. I love Breath of the Wild. I'm extremely disappointed by ToTK. So I'll be curious to hear the arguments in this video.
@@rpgranked So interestingly there's some overlap between what we didn't like, but not all that much. I think you did a great job arguing your points and putting everything forward in a clear and concise way (an hour may not seem consice but you could talk for days about this game, so summarising everything in an hour is no small feat). My issues with the game are very fundamental, but I'd generally summarise them as mostly stemming from the exploration. You talked a fair bit about the world and all that, but for me, the exploration in ToTK compared to BoTW is where it fundamentally falls apart. Nintendo re-using the overworld from BoTW was a very bold decision, and I don't think it paid off, because I spent most of my time with the game feeling underwhelmed that I was simply re-exploring something I had already seen with no changes. I found the sky islands and the depths to be largely disappointing, albeit with some noteable highlights - they were a major case of diminishing returns, leaving a good first impression but after a while feeling extremely repetitive and uninpsired. But I think my main issue is the exploration rewards. If we're being forced to re-explore so much of the same areas, we should at least get something good out of it. But instead, when I explored, whether it be on the surface, in the sky, or in the depths, the reward was almost always underwhelming: a crappy Amiibo costume that I never cared about 6 years ago when BoTW came out and care even less about now. There's a lot of other elements you raise - some things I agree with, others I disagree with, as you'd expect. In general though, I think you did a great job. Honestly I was surprised when you said you were in high school because I assumed you were older; you come across very well. You say you were twelve when you first played BoTW. I was in my last year of university - which makes be feel very old! But I think to put your thoughts across so well at such a young age is really impressive, and I think you could have a great future ahead for you if you choose to go down that sort of path.
Haha nice! Yeah it was pretty underwhelming. I had the same problem with the diminishing returns, I tried not to talk about that too much in the video because 1) I could go on forever about that and 2) I didn't want to make TOTK fans hate me more than they already do... hahaha. I KNOW it was always rehashed costumes that had the same fundamental functions and looked basically the same! Did love finding the Biggoron Sword and the Sea-Breeze Boomerang, though, those were my two favorite weapons in the game lol. Yeah, I liked finding the Sage's Wills in the Sky Islands, and there were like 3-4 good islands, but for the most part, they were just copy-pasted archipelagos. And the depths had the two temples, which was cool, a few good chests, the fun coliseums, and the really cool Yiga sidequests, and I liked that the Lightroots corresponded with the shrines to tell you were they were if you were stumped, but otherwise? The depths was bland. I did like the Depths better than the Sky though, for better of for worse. Haha yeah I'm just 16 lol. This is my dream so that literally means so much! You made my day :)
For me personally, I could never get into BOTW , so I can’t make an honest comparison. I resented Modern Zelda because of BOTW, but now I have 60 + hours in TOTK so I want to give BOTW another shot, I think I understand why people like BOTW now since TOTK built upon the foundation that was set by BOTW. Interestingly enough, some the PRO arguments you had for BOTW such as the atmosphere feeling intense and dreadful sound like negatives to me.
I’m of the same opinion, however I also like the lore and look of ancient sheika compared to zonai. They feel like two different games. Shoulda never taken away guardians though.
Sheika is better imo fs but yeah zonai is cool too lol They should've made like Guardian Constructs. Same things but with a construct font on them. Would be real cool. Maybe could drop some things that could fuse into ancient arrow rip offs
@@rpgranked Especially since it’s been proven the divine beasts were probably built by the zonai or at least it’s implied due to the sages wearing the divine helms of their respective divine beasts.
The human race is it's own worst enemy. From trolls to people that generally think their opinions are the end all be all, people are just toxic. Everyone has their own opinion and the right to think/express that opinion. I'm personally not a huge fan of either BotW or TotK. They're both great games in their own right but im more of a fan of Wind Waker and the 2D games, that's just my opinion. Its just sad that people make fun of others for their preferences when if they should actually respect others opinions and mind their own business, which is a full time job in itself. Just my 2¢ which isnt worth that much, lol!!
Yeah!! I get that. BOTW is an 86% game and TOTK is a 78% game for me. I like them!!! Just don't, well, love them. Whereas Minish Cap and Link Between Worlds are my absolute favorites!! So I feel that. Literally this world is cringe. This world would probably be twice as advanced if not more if people could just agree to disagree. 😂 I think that's a little more than 2 cents worth of a comment man. Thanks!
Yunobo works better in the Japanese dub of BOTW. Instead of an insecure preteen in the English Dub, he sounds like a 5 year old in a body that's too big for him. Fits his character much better.
I disagree, totk made so many good improvements that i simply cant see myself going back to botw for anything other than the story. The shrines feel a lot more interesting in totk, a lot of the gimiky shrines in botw were more tedious than fun, especially the comabt ones. Yes you could just cheese the shrines with ultrahand or acend, but those eureka moments where you figure out what the devs wanted you to do or the shrine teaches you a new way to use a mechanic, it just feels a lot more satisfying than in botw. The divine beasts are also not as interesting themselves outside of the lore aspect as the new dungeons in totk, the bosses were a lot more colorful and needed you to use your new pal in one way, similar to how in previous games youd get a dungeon item and use that item to defeat the dungeon boss, but i will say that using the sages can be annoying because they can also just run away from you when you want to use them. Overall, i believe totk is just better, tho perhaps because i like the freedom it provides to let me do whatever i want with the powers of fuse, and i also enjoy just creating dumb contraptions and sending koroks flying. Im not trying to crap on your oppinion, i just disagree. Keep having fun! Thats what games are all about!
The vibes are perfect in botw. And sometimes less is better. Totk is just too much sometimes, too much stuff, too much armor that does the same shit, its like the autistic brother of BOTW
Undertale was solid! I liked it enough! Not to offend you, but I think that is one of the most overrated games ever 😂 still great, but there are so many RPGs that have better stories than that imo. And Celeste is also awesome!!! Both great games.
@@dragoncuber5115 haha thanks! I should check out Omori lol. I need to play undertale two more times lol, I only got the neutral run unfortunately. I know that's the most boring so I understand it's likely my fault it isn't one of my favorite games haha
@@rpgrankedIn my humble opinion multiple playthroughs of Undertale are kind of required to get the full experience, personally I find the most fulfilling order to be Neutral -> True Pacifist -> Genocide (with genocide being optional as it is very grindy, is narratively very grim and a major tonal shift but contains the two hardest and most epic bosses in the game). The Pacifist and Genocide routes both serve as proper conclusions to the game's story but in tonally opposite ways, unfortunately the fact that if you kill even one monster in the neutral route you have to play the entire game again for the true pacifist ending is one of the game's biggest weaknesses, following the true pacifist ending unlocks a lot of end game content which were among the best and most memorable moments in the game for me. I heavily, heavily recommend you revisit Undertale with True Pacifist in mind, you will find new story encounters with some of the main characters that really flesh them out, a new and very thematically interesting area and a new final boss.
I haven't made up my mind yet on which I prefer, but there a decent chance I'll end up agreeing that BOTW is the overall better game. The agrument that TOTK makes BOTW obsolete and there's no reason to go back to it is complete nonsense. Even though they take place in the same Hyrule, the 2 games are very different from a design perspective. I'm in total agreement with you that BOTW's shrines are much better, and that the divine beasts are way more interesting and more fun to play than TOTK's "dungeons". But TOTK did make some serious improvement on certain things that are hard to ignore, like the fuse ability for weapons and having significantly better boss battles. It's a tough call for me, but I think I lean very slightly in favor of BOTW these days.
Story? What story? Link wake up. Link look for stuff. Link fight guy who essentially didnt even really eff w him. The most non compelling sht ever. The little peoples micro stories are more interesting than the end of the world lol. The eternal relationship between ganon and link is like non existent. Ganon used to be like darth vader and link was like luke with the depth and tension. Link feels like he just kinda uk whimsically eventually stumble upon ganons castle n fights him.
totk was amazing, It filled in many of the plot holes in the botw lore. even if they have less shrines they added a whole underground to explore, making totks map 2x the size of botw. the mystery of shooting brightbloom seeds into pitch darkness lighting it up, finding all sorts of goodies and terrifying creatures is part of whats fun about it. You could say ultra hand is just a copy of magnesis but I disagree, you can fuse and create any objects putting together crazy zonai devices and creating clever ways to solve your problems, I personally feel its an upgraded magnesis. Ultrahand was exaclty what they were going for in botw but failed. And then theres fuse, you can basically create fire, electric cryo and bomb arrows at any time, also implicating a bunch of new creative ways to defeat your enemies. Theres so much more creative freedom now that I wished we had in botw.
Oh I totally agree!! I loved fuse, and I think Ultrahand is objectively so much better than magnesis. I just felt like there was *too* much Ultrahand for me, because I'm more of a one and done kinda guy, not an abstract building type of guy. I tried to stress that Ultrahand was objectively awesome haha, hopefully that came through 😁 Also Fuse was so so so amazing. That's why I gave the combat a 10/10 because I adored that. Ultrahand is awesome, but in the end, I felt like BOTW was more puzzle-centric, and TOTK had a lot of building... Which is great, but just not really for me.
I'm not gonna lie... I feel like totk introduces far more plot holes, and doesn't really answer anything from botw. If anything, it kind of ignores botw's story almost completely :( also the depths are just the main map flipped upside down, and there isnt much to find down there imo
@@colecube8251 I agree the depths was super cool at first but got quite boring real fast... And yeah, that's one of the biggest problems with TOTK, it absolutely forgets BOTW happened like BOTW really was a tech demo. Whereas Majora's mask worked because it was set somewhere else, here it just kinda... Ignores everything. We barely get to even see the impact of the champions from BOTW in like any way..m
@@colecube8251 my guess is they wanted to make this more stand-alone so people who didn't play botw could have a more accessible game? Although that wouldn't make much more sense because wouldn't they want people to also buy botw? Hahaha
I played BOTW for the first time since 2017 after I swore off the Switch after the one I bought on launch bricked on me after a month of play time. I fell in love with the game all over again. I am currently playing TOTK and it was very jarring for me. I never knew how much I would miss Sheikah Slate bombs, or Statis+.
this was a great video bringing up good points and honestly imo I remember having more fun with botw but I think totk is the better game. anyways this video deserves more attention then it got. I only hope if there's a totk expansion it improves the game
Can we call the "ultrahand" what it really is?...just a dev tool dude....gluing stuff together is not the same as thinking and controlling actually intricate physics stuff and the reaction action cause and effects. There is no tension in the system or skill. Link isnt doing it. Its a medieval game and you have a green lanterns ring. Are you ever gunna use the other tools? No. Breath of the wild is simple and beautiful and foreboding and clean. Tears is like "eh do what you want" which is only fun a couple times. Like a game with unlimited cheat codes. Limitations and getting around them are what makes a game fun. Ironically having so many options in tears youre really just gunna do the one most easy and convenient thing. Theres not a sense of growth in your skill. And you arent a better gamer. Youre not mastering the glider. Youre gluing a fan on a stick and just flying there. It wouldnt be so bad if you could only do the ultrahand once a day for like 60 seconds.
In my opinion botw is better than totk in a few ways but totk is better than botw in several ways, improved dungeons, improved bosses, the villan has personality , Very improved final battle, Improved mechanics (physics and hand abilities/runes), improved dungeon build ups, expanded world, improved side quests. Botw positives: Improved ancient champion/sage characters , novelty factor, Better story character relationships. This is just my opinion, I respect your opinion.
I personally also find this a little unfair because a few of your points are based on BOTW dlc. TOTK I feel like dlc should be disincluded until TOTK gets it as well.
Yeah I agree with a lot of your points!! Thanks for sharing! Agree: Improved bosses, villain has personality, final battle, world, side quests (if shrine quests don't count) Disagree: improved dungeons, improved mechanics (the physics were so fun in botw), improved dungeon build ups (I liked the quick fun cutscenes a lot more than the super long things in totk for the most part...), side quests (if shrine quests do count)
If it doesnt have story then kinda whats the point. Other games have better characters. Other games have better graphics. Other games have better puzzles. Better combat. Better villains. Everything. If zelda doesnt have a good story youre essentially playing Nintendo minecraft without minecraft. Ur just kinda roamin around and it means nothing. Yea its fun to roam around. So is every other game. Without the fact that its link...lets be honest itd be nothing. Nothing. Great game systems and stuff. But cmon man. Zelda has no mystery in these games either. Its like oh yea everyone knows link loves zelda so lets just give up completely on the romance there.
Be sure to check out my other insane Zelda ranting video here, TOTK All Shrines Ranked 🎉: ruclips.net/video/c1ntHbXg9Hc/видео.htmlsi=mMxNNWMvQRkmvrzW
Going to BotW feels like going home. I don’t think that’ll ever change for me. Also, I get what you mean with the vibes. BotW made me feel lonely and I understood the weight of the calamity. It was emotionally moving. TotK didn’t do that for me
Exactly! I feel this! Thanks for sharing :)
I also prefer towers in botw over totk for many of the reasons you mentioned but the first thing I noticed missing a lot from botw was being able to use the towers to get a better lay of the land and plan out where you want you want to go next. Being shot up in there air is cool and it gives you a lot of height to easily glide wherever. But you end up having to quickly decide which direction you wanna start diving towards as you start falling closer to the ground it’s hard to really gauge where things are that high up too. Fast traveling to a tower in botw and chilling there while looking out at the landscape is just the perfect vibe and atmosphere and that experience is mostly absent in totk.
I totally agree with that!!! And the towers were tall enough to cover a lot of ground anyway
Very good point. The towers in totk perfectly kept up the fast pace. But this is what made made botw BETTER. you didn't feel rushed . Totk felt like. Yeah you seen all this before hurry up to the water temple. Even if you screwed around you had this feeling that you had to keep moving . Botw. Felt slower. You could take things in slower and at your pace. And the tower is the perfect example of that.
Very good point. The towers in totk perfectly kept up the fast pace. But this is what made made botw BETTER. you didn't feel rushed . Totk felt like. Yeah you seen all this before hurry up to the water temple. Even if you screwed around you had this feeling that you had to keep moving . Botw. Felt slower. You could take things in slower and at your pace. And the tower is the perfect example of that.
I feel this!!!
To me, the main problem with totk would be that its just that the surface world isnt so interesting to explore anymore. I mean in botw there was the constant threat of being sniped by guardians, encountering a hinox or lynel but in tears of the kingdom the map is soo large and with the abilities it feels like there's too much yet too little to do.
In botw I climbed and made the treck through the mountain path to zora's domain but in totk I just fucking glided over everything with rockets, rewind, wings and towers. I don't get the same feeling travelling in totk (even on the ground, on horseback) unlike botw where the land is massive but still interesting and just small enough that you can get around anywhere in a small amount of time.
It might just be a 'me', problem but I liked botw because of its world that didn't have the issues that I usually have with open world games. Totk reintroduced these problems for me.
My thoughts exactly. Something just never clicked with the surface world exploration itself in totk ...
yeah i agree... in botw the path to zoras domain was a gauntlet that you were pretty much forced to go through linearly. in totk, you can just skip the entire thing. It feels like that's a good way to describe the whole game. with the towers shooting you up so far you dont need to explore the world. you can just fly.
@@colecube8251 EXACTLY (and that's what I did because I like to be efficient with my time)
I prefer going through limitations imposed by the game and not yourself, b/c I always take the most efficient route, whether I like it or not.
@@soc7967 yeah me too. I hate games that force you to make up your own rules to have fun. why can't the game just BE fun on its own? I don't get it?
The freedom this game has really sucks the fun out of it for me, I think. Nothing has depth because you can just spam flurry rush, eat thousands of stored meals, and build a flying machine. Idk, I wish they limited you more often (such as in shrines!!! those r really good)
I believe TOTK is objectively better than BOTW. Yet, I had so much more fun, mystery, nostalgia and excitement from BOTW. I put nearly 300 hours in BOTW and only 125 in TOTK. I haven’t even completed the shrines in TOTK. I kind of just got bored. It feels empty yet overwhelmingly full. It’s hard to explain. It’s a great game tho
100% agree I felt the exact same way
I do think ToTK has a lot of objectives to complete, but it’s very tedious due to being copied and pasted. The Sky and Depths were disappointing because of the tedium.
@@frewtlewps1152yeah fs
@@frewtlewps1152do you know what I hated most in depths? That they needed the expandable resources to even get around them. + They were gloomy and boring
I think personally I was disappointed at how similar the games are. The plot is just completely recycled. Most of the enemies are the same and most of the game play is the same. It feels less like its own game and more like an over hyped DLC. I was already tired of some of it from the start. The combat is pretty uninteresting because I’ve already killed a million goblins lizards and lynels in botw.
Fair enough!!
Also cmon. Link isnt bob the builder dude. Does it not feel out of character? Ultrahand shouldve been like a combat ability or something. Link is a warrior. A dude who has to be light on his feet. Whats cooler? "The great warrior scaled the wall with insane speed and stamina barely making it to the top of the ledge, paraglided down past many enemies who he propeller attacked, then drop attacked the puzzle button" or...."link hoverbiked over the bad guys, built a ladder then glued it to the wall, then dropped a ball on a puzzle button from 30ft away"...then he literally did a baby puzzle and put triangles in triangle holes and squares in square holes....oooo
Link is meant to be a self insert character so I think links creativity being the own player’s creativity makes since
@@Abstract27042 link is not as much a self insert character as people like to believe they just dont have to hire a voice actor if they make him not talk and then get ths convenience of the silent hero.
Bc link is extremely visually distinct and he is short and no one wants to play as a short guy w girly hair and he is broke and not chasing women. So he in no way represents the average guy like a studio ghibli is for girls.
There is one specific kindof guy that would relate a lot to link. Just bc you can stand on a box or make a wall doesnt mean youre link any more than any other game thats ever been made where you can "make choices".
This is also the game that has the least about of personality from link meaning the whole game is really out of character for link and it is designed that way so in a way youre correct but youre correct about a bad decision.
At that point why not just play any other first person creator game? Where link is just removed. Its literally a boring and not actually versatile crafting game with link floating infront of the object youre just point and clicking on. Which is also lazy.
Like put link on your computer wallpaper and then drag and drop something with your mouse. Link doesnt even have to be there for the game.
And if you compare the building to any other building game it absolutely sucks.
Love zelda though and i like the design of the game but im not gunna eat a crap sandwich with link on it and not be offended.
@@Abstract27042 its bad mine craft with a link skin
@@cam-inf-4w5 you just completely ignored the whole point
@@Abstract27042 nah
BotW was my first Zelda game, but I wholeheartedly agree. TotK feels like the overtly ambitious remake that removed more atmosphere for a longer experience
When I found a shrine in BotW, I was happy and looking forward to the creativity inside. In TotK I often didn’t want to enter these shrines because it was almost all the time a minecraft-like building game which I really didn’t like. It’s a pity.
Totally agree!
Can’t just diss both of my fav games like that 😂
@@Cheese18372 🤣🤣
Late to the party but THANK YOU! I like Tears of the Kingdom, but Breath of the Wild just vibes with me so much more. The atmosphere, the mood, the melancholy, it works perfectly to make you care about the things you do!
Totally agree!!!
They could've done so much more with Riju, Buliara and the rest of the Gerudo considering how Ganondorf is a Gerudo.
Riju is 18 by the time it got to Tears of The Kingdom. Her bodyguard is Buliara who is the best Gerudo warrior, and who no doubt trained Riju. And yet the first scene we see of Riju in Tears of The Kingdom is her missing a target by a country mile.
It just leaves me thinking that the Champions were already spirits - why couldn't they have just made them the Sages? I like the Sages, but the only Sage I thought to be somewhat competent is Sidon, and I still don't understand why Tullin is a Sage and Teba isn’t. Riju is in the leadership position in Gerudo Town, and yet she's a Sage, so the argument of 'Teba is now the Chief of the Rito' doesn't hold up that well, hell, Sidon became King of The Zora so I don’t see how Teba couldn't have been the Sage.
Also, in regard to Rauru - instead of cutscenes in dragon tears that are likely watched out of order - instead, Nintendo should've gone the extra mile and had a playable Zelda in these segments. It would've been so cool to see Zelda's power grow under the training of the Zonai, whilst getting to use her to battle enemies in the past.
@@TurinTurambar98 yeah I totally agree with you!
Rito have a short lifespan so teba will be dead in like 20 years so tulin makes sense but yeah teba is cool
@@lucamayhem could you provide a link to where you this info from? Or any source really. Just curious.
Also, there was a WTF moment when Sidon had a fiancee in TOTK. Like, there was so much pairing in BOTW him with Link 😂
You're not alone! I similarly think BotW was the better game, and agree with near all your arguments.
The biggest sticking point for me wasn't the shrines, though, it was the story. Personally I think TotK's story is better _in concept_ but the execution was just fumbled so badly (like everything to do with the past and present sages, how easy it was to accidentally do something out of order and eff up the story for yourself, and how one dimensional and underexplored Ganondorf was) that it dragged the entire experience down for me. BotW's story was much simpler, but at least I felt like there was actual care given to all of its characters.
The dungeons were another biggie. Visually they were much more interesting than BotW's, but mechanically? They were braindead easy. Absolutely zero challenge at all. I'd rather take a visually boring puzzle that actually makes me think about its solutions than what TotK's gave us. The shrines were just an echo of this problem for me; similarly too easy and seemingly less inspired on the whole.
And finally, the world of TotK just didn't do enough for me. With the overworld being largely the same as BotW's, that left only the depths, sky islands, and various caves and wells to spice things up. But the depths were empty drab wastelands, the sky islands repetitive with the majority of its puzzles and layouts, and the caves/wells nearly entirely copy-paste. It was exciting for the first few hours, then got dull af. I really wish they had made more of an effort to include unique environmental story telling with these areas. The lack of discoverable lore was one of my biggest gripes with BotW, and they somehow had even less of it in TotK.
Ofc that's not to say TotK didn't have some areas it excelled in -- the enemy variety, for example, was much, much improved; the weapon combining alleviated many of the weapon breaking frustrations from the first game; and ascend is hands down like my favorite ability in any game ever! But, just.... how the overwhelming majority of people view TotK as better in nigh every way just completely flabbergasts me lol. So it's nice to stumble upon someone who finally feels much the same as I do!
Phew, I didn't mean for this comment to get so long but I guess I just had a lot to get off my chest about the game LOL!
Yesssss thanks for sharing! We are not alone!!!
The story is literally the opposite. Breath of the wild is better in concept but TOTK had significantly better execution. Breath of the wild basically didn’t have a story because of how disconnected it was. The devs were just paranoid of anything linear. I think 3 of the memories are directly connected to each other, and the king and impa are the only other sources of story. Champion’s ballad expanded on it well, but that only made the story passable compared to genuine garbage. Tears of the kingdom got the perfect balance of linearity and freedom. There’s a clear-cut order, but you don’t have to take it if you don’t care. Regardless, the payoff stays the same so long as you get them all.
I get this side of it too! Thanks for the comment!
I am a legend of Zelda fan for almost 20 years now. My favourite game was always A link to the past, because I loved the fact that exploration was more important than the story. Newer games like twilight princess, spirit tracks and skyward sword were still great games, but they had way to much story and were to linear for me. Thats why I adored breath of the wild so much. Finally it was a game that went back to the routes and put more focus on exploration and kept the story simple.
I was looking foreward so much for tears of the kingdom. Now I own it and must say, I am very much dissappointed. I don't want to cheat the game with creativity. I don't want dull and annoying sidequests that consist of mending things together. I just want to walk around the world, enjoy the landscape, fight some bosses and find some secrets from time to time. I really have trouble finishing tears of the kingdom. I am bored with this game so much....
I see that there are a lot of people who feel excactly the other way around. Thats good for them. Each and everyone their own opinion :)
Love this! Especially that last sentence. Can tell you are epic 😂 my favorite so far are Minish Cap and Link Between Worlds. Playing Zelda II rn and actually really enjoying it
I'm a big story guy, but there's gotta be a good balance so I'm not too sure 😂
Breath absolutely nailed the atmosphere. It really felt like a land swept up in the lingering effects of an almighty cataclysm, a great disaster that brought a once mighty nation to its knees. It felt like the world was holding its breath, bracing for the next eruption. The danger was clear and imminent, but not immediate. You could drag your feet and do side activities, and in fact, you’re encouraged to, as many of them are relevant to the main goal. There’s important stuff to do, but there’s no rush. Zelda is holding down the fort for us. Saving the world can wait. For now…
Tears, on the other hand, feels all kinds of weird. There’s a disconnect between the story and gameplay that wasn’t there in Breath. On the one hand, Ganondorf is back. Remember that massive earth-shattering calamity from last time? Yeah, that was just a malignant ooze that had been passively seeping out of this guy. Now he’s back in full, stronger than he has ever been before, there’s nothing holding him back like last time, and Hyrule is absolutely screwed. He could strike at literally any time. What should we do?
“Yeehaw, go carts go VROOOOM!”
“Yahaha! I found you!”
“Yes, I will visit every stable to investigate rumors of mysterious voices in the night and the illustrious All-Clucking Cucoo.”
“Not to worry! I’d be happy to provide for you a picture of a Goron in a hot spring. I’ll be back in a few days.”
“Today, I do believe I shall take some time to sort out the matter of Hateno’s mayoral election.”
These things may be interesting, but they feel so out of place. The main story demands immediate action, except it doesn’t because our all powerful villain is just chilling down in a pit for every second of it. If Ganon does literally anything at all before we decide we’re done building hover bikes and death robots, it’s game over. It’s like Fallout 4 again, where my baby gets kidnapped and then hours later, I’m building a house and planning out my farm.
The distractions make sense in Breath. They absolutely do not in Tears. There’s a sense of urgency that is completely at odds with the entire concept of the game. And I think that’s the main reason why I couldn’t get into the sequel like I could the first game. That, and Ultrahand breaks the game to the point where I completely lost interest in solving any puzzles. But that’s another rant.
This is all complete facts!!!
BotW feels real. TotK isn't.
Are you a mental case
Dude what?
Truth.
BotW feels organic, TotK feels mechanic
Going back to BotW after completing TotK felt like coming home.
TotK was too easy, too messy..too soul-less. Not a bad game by any means, but BotW is so much better ❤
well it's a legend, it doesn't have to be realistic
I’m gonna say, I had much more fun in TotK but it didn’t amaze me as much as BotW did. The novelty BotW had was on a whole new level.
TotK is a 10/10 game for the first 45 hours or so, once the novelty dries over, it becomes so monotonous it becomes overwhelming to keep playing.
YES I 100% agree. I felt a lot more burn out with tears of the kingdom. Sure Ultrahand and zonai devices allowed for a lot but became monotonous quite fast
@@rpgranked yeah man, my perspective on the game completely changed once I had 100 hours or so. It went from being my favorite game to BotW 1.5.
@@othonielmolinabro i kinda gave up after 230 hrs lmao, i cant play the game anymore cos my game card broke but i beat it ages ago
@@HazardAleXx what is your opinion on the game after 230 hours?
@@othonielmolina exact thing happened here haha (but more like BOTW 0.8 haha)
To be honest totk is a better game. But I had more fun playing botw for the first time then totk. I think totk and botw are both very good games and I think they are equaly as good.
Fair enough man!!
I think personally I was disappointed at how similar the games are. The plot is just completely recycled. Most of the enemies are the same and most of the game play is the same. It feels less like its own game and more like an over hyped DLC. I was already tired of some of it from the start. The combat is pretty uninteresting because I’ve already killed a million goblins lizards and lynels in botw.
@@ava4689you just put my thoughts into words, i enjoyed the game but... it felt too similar to botw and u csn tell they thought of a sequel last minute instead of a different zelda
i think "botw" being so new and different did a lot for it... totk is good too... but its not "new and different" as much as botw...
@@Domieboy yeah yeah fs! I tried my best to keep nostalgia out of this analysis at all (as I always attempt to do), but I definitely agree lol
Ive gotta agree, the shrines were pretty darn boring. Half the time I could figure out what i needed to do within a minute. Or if can't, i can just cheese it with ultrahand and recall (or a rocket). I honestly just saw them as ways to get more powerful, and not their own little dungeon. Whereas BOTW... holy cow! I've never had that much fun in a Zelda game.
Exactly! My exact thoughts. Yeah, being able to attach rockets to shields and bring them into shrines was iffy at best 🤣 I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought this 🥳
And shrines were like my favorite part of BOTW so I was so excited 😭 haha all good tho
@@rpgranked sounds right😁. I definitely did like that the BotW abilities actually forced you to think and actually solve the puzzle. Whereas TotK you can just cheese it
Yes for sure! That's exactly what I think.
I agree. Personally to me in both games the shrines were annoying. I want to explore and have fun and after a certain point shrines were just a complete chore to do. And thats part of what I dont like about totk. Theres just MORE SHRINES. No new interesting thing. Just re skinned high numbered tedious level ups. There couldve been more to be done. But instead of making something new they just recycled the same game.
Imo the shrine system in totk is very clunky and redundant because of it being a sequel. The game devs try so hard to make it different from botw by putting them in different areas and giving it different designs but they got very boring very quickly and often were inconvenient warp points in all the villages. When I first played botw, I was so excited about finding a shrine and would get it done immediately. That kind of fizzled out so I do them a lot less when I replay it, so seeing them again in totk when I was expecting something new was disappointing. Since the shrines are new in game, there’s not many interesting things that can be done with them since botw had established lore about them way before links time. There are no ancient songs or fun gimmicks to activate them, and the reward of lights of blessings wasn’t exactly the most incentivizing.
Personally I think totk could’ve been a much better game if they stopped the shrine system completely and focused on making larger more linear focused dungeons. As well as more than just the four regional ones. A game that followed 7-8 large dungeons would’ve made the game feel longer and been richer in story. Anyways, great video! You’re very entertaining to listen to.
I feel this! I feel like BOTW was perfect as is, but I feel like between two Zelda games, these were the most similar. They felt the least creatively different, even more than Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds. I do agree with you, although, the amount of fans crying for shrines back was more than enough for them to make a return... 😅
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, lmk if you wanna see anything specific in the future :)
At least 1/3 of TOTK’s shrines are just Rauru’s Blessings. Either you get them from mundanely exploring a cave or bringing a crystal to the shrine. There aren’t as many unique shrine quests as there was to make you earn them in BOTW.
I very much agree that the ultrahand ability was way overutilized in shrines. I didn't like ultrahand much either, it was too clunky and time consuming, and building stuff isn't what I'm looking for in Zelda games. It felt like damn near every shrine was just building shit that I didn't want to build. The building in shrines was so boring and tedious, and even in the overworld, I found it boring and tedious. I know a lot of players got super creative with ultrahand and had a lot of fun building stuff, but that's just not what I play Zelda games for. If I wanted that, I'd just play a game that's specifically made for that. It's cool for the people who want to use it, but for those who don't, it just made the game an unpleasant experience to force us to use it not only in shrines, but also to traverse parts of the world, especially in the sky. It made the already underwhelming sky islands even worse because not only is there nearly nothing to do up there, but I'm forced to use a mechanic that I heavily dislike just to move between them. What made this even worse is that a lot of the building materials, especially the wings, disappear after a short amount of time, making sky traversal even more of a pain. And for what reason? Making the materials disappear doesnt add a fun challenge or any worth as mechanic at all. It just pisses me, and many other players off. I wouldnt say that the ultrahand mechanic shouldn't exist, but it shouldn't have been forced on the player so much. I personally felt that it took away a lot of the freedom that the developers supposedly want the players to have.
Be spitting fax over here, love it!
Lore wise, TOTK feels like a BOTW fanfic.
BotW feels like a Zelda game. TotK feels like Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts.
Facts 😂😂
Bro wtf are you talking about 😭💀
@@Pera6 👍 No idea fella. You could say they have a few of their own nuts and bolts loose , maybe thats what they were getting at. 🤷♂️
@@netweed09 lol
Honestly I wholeheartedly disagree and I love totk, but this is a very well thought out and well articulated video and deserves far more attention than it’s getting even though it’s controversial. Good work man
Thanks so much! I love TOTK too don't worry :) I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! Means a lot!
The one complaint I have for ToTK is it's vastness, there are just too many things to do and in some places there is quests for the sake of quests BoTW was a perfect balance for me.
Also yes i too hate gorons, i think they are annoying and their design is wierd.
Agree with all your points here!! Daruk is my only exception so far, but hey, maybe I'll like another as the series goes on!
@@rpgrankedOK i accept you prefering BOTW but hating gorons? That's too far man
@@rafaelcosta7427 hahaha I'm sorry! I love daruk lol but idk most of them have such aggravating personalities and I can with their tiny underwear it's too much 🤣🤢
TotK gives you power, and people know you so it feels less free. In BotW you get released and you can go wherever. The game requiring you to talk to these guards, and instantly go to a town, and meet Purah just deletes the loneliness
Yeah fs
I had similar thoughts, one thing was it was almost like a slap in the face for botw fans who went into totk and half the npcs forgot you somehow, the entire vibe felt off, like this game is a sequel, tell us what happened to all the sheikah stuff, where did all the underground/above ground sheikah shrines go, so much didnt add up it was weird, also the great plateau was objectively better than the great sky island, also upgrading and grinding in totk is way more grindy and busy work its a real shame. Still a great game but I replayed botw 4 times since my first one on wii u and 3 times on switch vs totk ill probs never play it again even though I liked it.
p.s. I agree where the heck did kass go? The continuity problems in totk are severe
Great take! Totally agree with all of this.
Totally agree. TotK felt like a boring, extensive, never-ending chore. The subterranean portion felt very one note in all directions. I didn't even go through it all. Like you, there was no need to actually explore on foot when you could just shoot up into the sky and glide to wherever you want to go precisely. I liked the sky lands a little more than the subterranean portions. I also don't care to sit there and build stuff or even fuse things, to be honest. To me, it breaks up the flow of the game. I like the feel of the rugged apocalyptic land where sometimes i have to pick up the nearest sword and just start fighting with that. I'm not going through menus fusing for attack power, I'm just fighting with what i got. I don't care for vehicles; the Zonai tech completely eliminated any fun in catching a horse, hoping that you caught a great horse.
I could go on. I did spend 210 hours in TotK. I enjoyed it overall. It is a good game. But i sprinted through the last 30 hours to just beat the game and move on. I went back to BotW last night in Master Mode, and honestly, i got immediately lost in it again. It's so immersive. The towers make way more sense. They distill the information of the land into a drop of fluid that gets absorbed into the slate. That's a neat concept. In TotK, you got shot up into the sky on a tether, pointing a camera around to capture the images of the land to form the map? Idk. Seemed silly and archaic by comparison.
Okay, I'm done. Sorry, that was long-winded. Great video, man.
Totally agree man! I couldn't have said it better. Love these type of comments, nw. Thanks for the kind words!
You have a better take than most of the large channels. Though I'll say, giving something a 10/10 should mean PERFECT. 5/10 is average
Thanks so much!
YESS finally someone agrees with me!!!! Sorry I didn't make it very clear in the video. Like, I'll say a game is 67% and people think I hate it, but that means it's 17% above an average game 😂
Like, currently, I have moved TOTK to a 70% and BOTW to a 73%. But I still thoroughly enjoyed both games!
My favorite game of all time, Lost Odyssey, is still a 98% haha.
One of the biggest things that led me to not have fun in ToTK is the starting area.
After dropping down not only do you not have much to look at but also your eyes are immediately assaulted with p*ss yellow plants for some reason. I get it’s supposed to be different than Hyrule but yellow just isn’t pleasing to look at.
The islands shape does allow for a few hidden areas but ends up funneling everyone into a specific playstyle limiting creativity and players actually feeling like they discovered something for themselves.
And the random ambient drifting clouds…. Because of them randomly moving around it makes it so I can never see all the shrines during the ‘mark the shrines’ tutorial which should be the 1 time there not present.
@@jblockminermc5401 hahahaha this is a hilarious comment, thanks for sharing! Total facts haha
Great video! I agree with a lot of points here, and actually I kinda hate that TotK added this much over BotW, it makes people appreciate it less I think.
Overall, I think that BotW had things executed better, and TotK can be a pretty frustrating game at times.
Personally, it really upset me how much content from BotW was reused in TotK (especially the music), and it just felt a bit weak compared to how MM handled the OoT assets.
Anyways, that was a really good video, with good actual points, and I hope that more people can discover your channel and appreciate your work!
Thanks so much!!! Totally agree!
The main reason why I prefer BotW is that everything you explored was new. Sure, if you’re playing TotK first it’ll all feel new, but BotW just felt way more atmospheric than TotK. Plus, the world building in BotW was far more interesting and less confusing than TotK, despite the ladder giving us answers to many lore questions from BotW. How do you screw that up? BotW was an incredible experience I had when first playing it that I’ll never forget, whereas TotK was a game that was just fun for a while. TotK is also way too repetitive. From the skies, to the depths, to the caves, to the wells, and so much more that was very lacking in variety. BotW understood the concept of “Less is more”
Don’t get me wrong. Like I said, I had fun with TotK, but coming from a game that was more than something that was just fun to play is extremely disappointing
I totally agree!!!
Agree with you on Hyrule castle. BOTW also had way better music in that area.
100% agree about the shrines. TOTK quests (and characters) had no...soul.
Yesssir glad you get it!!!
My friend keeps tryna convince me the TOTK Hyrule Castle song is better and I'm getting a feeling he's on basic white boy meth making those type of claims
the depths was pretty bad in my opinion traversing it was a chore. also the land area is literally a carbon copy of botw
Yup 😂
Totk feels like ordering an entree with too many ingredients
Facts
Just finished watching your video, I also think BOTW is better. TOTK is a great game, and I do think there are a few better things, like the building weapons mechanic, I do like that a lot more than the weapons I find in BOTW, but generally, I think almost everything in BOTW is superior.
One of the things I don't like is the sages, I don't even mind the character, I think they're cool, like, I like there personalities, but the mechanics itself it's terrible, having to go after them and click A is very jenky, the abilities that they provide are useless, Riju and Yonobu are essentially just bombs, on BOTW they were a lot more simple to activate, and also a lot more powerful, every champion power totally changed the gameplay, TOTK they are very mediocre and uncreative.
The shrines and exploration on BOTW is also so much better, you had some really memorable quests to find, like helping to build terrey town, or the dragon on the mountain that you help, BOTW also had some locations specially made for the shrine, like the two ring rocks, or that windy place near the ocean, but also, the shrines on BOTW was actually a puzzle you had to solve, most of the TOTK the shrines are essentially "build something to get to the end", and that's so boring, they also are just in random places on the map, the maps and shrines don't connect anymore, TOTK don't have any shrine or side quests that are actually memorable, the quests in TOTK are just a bunch of NPCs asking for simple favors, they are not fun as BOTW, the deaphs are also so disappointing, it's just two dungeons and master kogah fight, there literally 3 missions in the entire deaphs, the rest of it, it's just copy and past enemies.
BOTW was smaller, but at least it had more variety of missions.
I don't like the story of BOTW That much, but at least finding the memories made sense in BOTW, also they were fun to find, you actually had to explore the map to find it, the "memories" in TOTK doesn't make any sense, also finding them it's just kinda pointless, since they are just a big mark point on the map.
I also think the bosses in BOTW are better, I mean, visually they suck, but at least they actually attack you, the fight is actually challenging, TOTK bosses are visually better, but they don't attack you, they just stand there waiting for you to attack them, it's ao silly.
anyway, I had fun with TOTK, but I truly don't understand people that find TOTK a better game.
Other than the bosses, I absolutely agree with everything you said here 😅 the bosses were definitely attacking me (other than Colgera... Lmao) so maybe your game was being wacky? Idk haha but anyway I totally agree with you about all this!
@@rpgranked I don't even remember the thr fight that well because it was too easy, so maybe I'm forgetting something, The only one that I think it was challenging was the one from the water temple, but still it was very easy ai think.
Colgera just trow som tornadoes at you, with is very easy to avoid, the one from Gerudo also just do the same thing, he trow some tornados at you and that's pretty much it, the one from fire temple just trow some rocks, that doesn't really causes any damage.
I do like the one from spirit temple, I think that one was very fun, but the rest of them, I don't know.
BOTW felt more creative for me, the one from Gerudo for example, he had super speed, then you had to use the metal things to electrocute him, he also had shock on his shield and weapon at some point, it felt more like a Battle I think, TOTK bosses can be fun, but I though it was too easy.
Fair analysis! I get this! I always found it sad you could always refight all of them in the Depths except for the Spirit Temple boss because I loved that one. While Colgera was the easiest fight in the game, it was my favorite lol. I made a TOTK boss ranking if you wanna check that out :D
@@LuizanimadoThe only TOTK boss that gave me trouble was the first Gibdo Queen fight.
There wasn’t much that I could agree with, but that was still an entertaining listen! I never would have guessed that you were that young with how articulate you are. You’re well-suited to these types of videos, so if you enjoy making them, I say do more!
I was surprised that you didn’t mention the depths in your atmosphere section. Also, did every category have a clear cut winner? If you didn’t present this for RUclips, would there have been any ties?
And you certainly don’t have to answer this, but I’m curious-how is this video doing for likes and dislikes? I wonder what the ratio is.
Thanks so much! I have some ones in the future: FF5 vs FF3, FF7 vs FF8, TTYD vs The Origami King, etc.
Eh, I thought the depths added very little to the game outside of making the fire temple and spirit temple cooler. And helping locate shrines. I loved them for about an hour but otherwise it was bad... lol
About 75%, my channel average is about 90% so yeah. Honestly much higher than I expected 😁
@@rpgranked Gotcha. Everyone who I talked to was blown away when they first touched down in the depths, so I was wondering if that was just forgotten. I liked that the depths had its own ecosystems with certain items only being found down there, but there was room for improvement.
75% is higher than I expected too! Good job 😁
@@TheLegendofLeo yeah I agree, getting there was awesome and so was the unique stuff, but it was *very* copy pasted
I think the argument for BOTW > TOTK can be summarized with, less is more.
Fair enough!!
Dude
Great video.
Can’t agree more with many of your points. I’m not a builder. For some weird reason I enjoyed the building in the shrines more than I thought I would.
But I like fighting.
We’re not really solving puzzles by cheesing them and “getting to the end” we just skipped the puzzle.
I’m 31. People don’t make fun of me at my age for liking a videogame more than another, but that may be generational and not necessarily age related.
And Partitio’s theme at the end was a great choice
Thanks for the comment! Definitely agree! Yes, partitio's theme is my favorite! Was arranged by Robert M. Bach Composing here on RUclips :)
As much as I love both games, I get burnt out from the open world aspect after spending too much time in them despite having done the majority of the quests. It makes me hope we get a more traditional Zelda in the next installment.
Same haha, I love traditional Zelda a lot more🤣
Doubt they'll go back to it with how huge of a success the last two were tho
@@rpgranked If they can nail the open world aspect while being able to have the same kind of progression the original games have, then that'll definitely feel refreshing. There's something fun in not having all the exploration ablities from the get-go and getting them from plot points.
@@Lexyvil yes I'd be totally fine with that!!
Links relationship with the sages was just so dry and almost non-existent when compared to the champions.
Yup! I totally agree with that!
Wrong! You were just not paying attention to the story.
@@DanielMazahrehlmaao 😂 its okay man. The champions were much better it just is what it is
@@quemsereu2009 You are expressing a BS opinion, NOT a fact. You are incapable of identifying brilliant storytelling that benefits an open world video game. This isn’t a typical low quality Hollywood corporate fascist formulaic propaganda story
I prefer TotK. More varied and longer main and side quests, more visually distinct dungeons, better bosses, more ways to approach combat, more ways to traverse, much better final battle and ending, greatly enchanced abilities and simply more content/places to explore. But BotW is still my #2 favourite game of all time, so I am not mad...
I agree. Tears of the Kingdom felt too much alike Breath of the Wild. Breath of the Wild was fantastic it was revolutionary and it changed the way Zelda played, but Tears of the Kingdom instead of innovating and revolutionizing Zelda like Breath of the Wild did it played it too safe and it felt like more of the same. It didn't change the way Zelda was played forever it felt like a Breath of the Wild 1.2 I think Tears of the Kingdom did have a little better boss fights and that was good, but I didn't like using the minecraft building vehicles in Tears of the Kingdom. For me my favorite Zelda is A Link to the Past.
Agree with everything you said here! I don't exactly think TOTK needed to re-revolutionize the series again, but that definitely gives BOTW some brownie points. I haven't gotten the chance to play A Link To The Past yet, but I'll get there soon
If u liked botw so much isn't more of the same a good thing? ( Im really just asking here, im curious)
Oh for sure! I adored TOTK! Just not as much haha.
I disagree. I think TOTK has so much more space for creativity, and for me, it improved on almost ALL the aspects of BOTW. The only things i thought BOTW did better were shrines and champion abilities
@@rafaelcosta7427 fair enough!
Tears of the Kingdom was great, but for me I just didn’t get the same sense of discovery as I did when exploring breath of the wilds world for the first time. It’s pretty much the same journey, you’re going to the same 4 locations marked on your map and are going to the same place for the final boss. Would have liked it better if maybe the world you were exploring was the Hyrule from the past that Zelda gets sent to. It’s objectively a better game than botw but I had a little bit more fun playing botw for the first time.
This is facts
@@rpgranked one think I will say that totk does way better in this game is the combat shrines. It got so repetitive fighting the same guardian boss over and over. I remember near Hateno village there was 2 of these shrines right next to each other which was really annoying. Totk combat shrines were a huge improvement to me with much more variety.
@@anthonymanuel55000 definitely!!
No matter how hard I tried to love totk, for me, I'm with you, botw is the better game.
Same here man, idek why but it's just true
BOTW and TOTK together is the perfect reimagining of Ocarina Of Time! TOTK has a ton of amazing references to OOT. Both Masterpieces and should be considered as one game! TOTK perfected things and added more gameplay loops to make it more replayable than BOTW, but it’s one story- Ganon’s remains soaking as dark magic through the lands, corrupting everything like in Ocarina and then adult link fighting the real Ganon. TOTK has great references- Dodongo mini boss-as Frox, healing the Deku tree from Shadow Ganon as From Gohma in OOT. Zelda isn’t shiek but Ganon disguises himself as Zelda to cause more evil. Also making weapons is a nice reference to Dark Cloud 2, but I wish they made it deeper like cooking. So many amazing references! The only downside of TOTK is the four super similar cutscenes after each boss, also Auto build wastes space- they should have introduced another skill. Also the boss difficulty should have been far more challenging! The Lynels were better but main bosses too easy.
I love both traditional puzzle solving, and open ended puzzles where not solving the puzzle is a viable option.
Also, 32 here, been a Zelda fan since Ocarina of Time, but Majora's Mask is my favourite of the Zelda games. Okami being my favourite video game.
Thank you for the shout out to Final Fantasy 6, glad that game's still getting love.
Thanks for the comment!! My favorite so far is Minish Cap but I still have a lot to play lol. I'm glad it is too!
Can’t say I agree, but I can definitely see your perspective.
Thanks man! Love this. Sick of hate messages on the Internet lmao. I too fully understand why others like TOTK better of course!
Wrong. You must not have caught Ganondorf mid-Suavemente yet
Haha
I caught Ganondorf mid-Gmod laugh
1. TOTK discredits everything you did in BoTW. What is the point of that grand adventure and defeating Ganon if nothing gets resolved and he is still alive.
2. ToTK is way too big for its own good. By the time you clear a dungeon and get the materials you need you already forgot what you were doing.
3. Attaching system made this more about inventory management than focusing on the adventure.
ToTK is a decent game but wish they toned it down and made something that respects the customer’s time.
Dang bro, you're 16? I'm about twice your age and it felt like I was listening to a Zelda bro.
Minish cap is my second favorite right under TP. The colors, dungeon design, and four sword implementation is just great. On a handheld no less
Hahaha 😂 thanks man!!! I haven't actually got to play TP (I know, I'm a little behind), but yeah, so far, my favorites are Minish Cap, link between worlds, and the Oracle games 😅 I'm truly a 2D Zelda guy at heart 😂
I've heard the dungeons in TP are phenomenal, super excited!
I got minis cap emulated on my vita
@@zlvno that's sick!
Breath of the wild when it first came out along side twighlight princess was my main childhood games along side the much earlier games such as Rayman, it feels a little sad that both the community and tears of the kingdom dont refferance botw enough if not at all, the divine beasts from botw? Gone. No explanation, The many guardians that were terrorising people before? Not even a hint. I will admit i liked totk as i got see riju grown up, sidons got a wife (owch) and yunobo becoming a goron of status among his tribe, ill be honest i didn't remember tulin...
On a overall I'll never forget being on vah naborus and the theme playing in the background, it was a vibe, im glad to have experienced it while i was younger so nostalgia was linked.
Also i really miss the champions, they were so iconic and i don't think i hated even a single one. ...
i will give that they brought ganondorf back, as i thought he was bad*ss in twighlight princess.
But anyway im glad your freely expressing your opinion about the games, despite you'll get alot of people mad, especially with those with the mindset "new is always better", yes it's more efficient but in no respective is it better.
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100% agree with all you said! I don't necessarily have nostalgia for any of the Zelda games tbh, but I totally agree with the majority of what you said!
An opinion is not a "me" problem. No one is offended. You explain the differences in both games. Thanks for posting the video.
@@shakycameratheater THANK YOU! don't worry I totally agree but you know internet culture, some people get pissed if I have an opinion 😂 of course, glad you enjoyed it!
@@shakycameratheater lmk if you wanna see anything else
Just stumbled across your vid and you've got a really laid back casual presenting style which I really dig. Completely agree, totk was probably my biggest gaming disappointment, I was so hyped. Just started replaying oot and within 15 mins I'm in the first dungeon. Go figure. So refreshing not having to grind and do meaningless busywork
Hey, thanks! That means a lot! Yeah, I totally feel that. My favorite of the ones I've played so far is Minish Cap, absolutely adore that one 😂
Enjoyed the video! i am one who personally likes both games, my pet peeve is that with the sages in tears of the kingdom had no character, they wore masks and barely had a backstory unlike daruk, mipha, urbosa and rivali. i still feel like the dungeons aren't the best in breath of the wild but if you think about it tears has the same kind of loop, where you use the characters power on a switch and it unlocks a part, it just feels almost the same as botw, i will say that tears of the kingdom had better bosses though. My other issue with tears is that the sky does not have as much content as it should have, like most the islands are small and are just shrine quests. and the depths are okay but it is a bit repetitive and there are sometimes where its just straight walking ahead with nothing interesting in your way. i also dislike how the tears of the kingdom "tutorial" area takes like a couple hours to get through, in breath of the wild it could take a couple hours but it was about half an hour to an hour, witch was great but tears of the kingdoms tutorial kinda bored me, and makes me not want to make anothe save file for the reson that it is a bit longer than i feel it should be. dont get me wrong i love tears of the kingdom, and breath of the wild both as much as each other but i feel breath of the wild is stil a great experience for anyone who hasnt played botw and only played totk. anyways this was a huge read so i will finish it here, i coud talk for hours about my opinions on both games, because i love them both dearly and cannot get enough. anyways loved the video, agreed with some stuff, but honestly no hate towards totk i just think botw did some amazing things that tears of the kingdom hasnt matched to but yeah, so please anyone reading this don't reply with hate comments i love both games in their own ways, i am just putting my opinion out there.
Oh don't worry I like both games too! Just totk less... haha. Totally agree about the Sages (other than Sidon), and I agree with literally everything else you said. Also, yeah, the Old Man made the botw tutorial so charming too!! Yeah, bosses were better in TOTK but I liked the dungeons better in BOTW lol. They are both amazing games though, in the end!
@@rpgranked yeah i love both but with the sages in totk i meant the sages and the ancestors, the ancestors had no character building really , but yes sidon is one of the best characters in both games, he comes off as very welcoming and friendly. oh, and i just subbed 👌🔥
Totally agree! And thanks so much man, expect more Zelda content in the future! I've got quite a few totk videos up if you wanna check em out. Kinda in the Mario RPG mindset atm, but I'm planning on marathoning all the Zelda games soon to make more videos like this :))
@@rpgranked Thanks to you too, as from the video you are a truly nice person and i also have some whacky opinions on games, also my friend at school has this same opinion about botw over totk, and yes i can agree that if you were to go about saying that to everyone "botw is better" there is a huge chance that people would argue with you, anyways hope you have a great day man!
@@Floopydoopy4799 thanks you too! Trying my best to be nice, so thanks! One of my least favorite things in life is when people can't agree to disagree haha
One thing also that kinda annoy me is the equipment/armor in totk, there is so much different sets and all gives the same bonus stealth up, attack up etc, they feels so useless. In botw every armor felt unique with their own purpose and it felt like an achievement when you got new armor. The great fairy upgrade is also so fking expensive and there is so much to upgrade, in botw i upgraded every armor to max but i gave up that in totk whatever :D.
I totally agree! The armor is so stupid in TOTK
The absolute worst part to me was TOTK reusing the armors from the BOTW DLCs.
@@Kruegernator123 so bad smh
Top 10 all time: 🛡️⚔️
#10 A Link To The Past
#9 Link’s Awakening
#8 Twilight Princess
#7 The Minish Cap
#6 A Link Between Worlds
#5 TOTK
#4 BOTW
#3 Majora’s Mask
#2 Wind Waker
#1 Ocarina of Time
Absolutely adore this list!!! Would love to hear more. I haven't played all of them yet, but I'm getting there. Will definitely make a video once I get there tho!
Top 5 for me (granted, I've sadly only played 7):
5. Ocarina of Time
4. TOTK
3. BOTW
2. A Link Between Worlds
1. The Minish Cap
Any list that has OOT as #1, MM in top 3 and BOTW outside of top 3 deserves an upvote
@@iWearCapesIRL agree here man! As much as some people do believe that, i feel like some people are inauthentic and just ramble about the impact some game made haha even if it isn't there favorite
I’m a simple man. I see longform analytical zelda content and i like and subscribe. Keep it going!
Yesssir, more to come my man!
Which longform content do you want to see next? Meant to ask earlier but just remembered today lol.
Totk is very creativity driven. In botw, it felt that I could play the game my way without feeling the pressure to play a certain way. Compared, to totk where I feel like I'm forced to use creativity, forced to build something to complete the stage. I'm not a creative person, and I don't want to spend my time figuring out how to fuse things to make something that will only be used for less than a minute.
Totally agree!
I loved BOTW, greatest Zelda game that reinvented open world games !
Came back to the roots of what Zelda was always about !
I wanted BOTW 2 - Tears of the kingdom is a totally different game that i just didn't enjoy, it was way too focused on constructions, i felt like i was playing an indie puzzle game and not the adventure that should be a Zelda game !
Absolutely!!
Lost Odyssey is your favorite game? Excellent taste, sir. Some of the best writing in gaming history, and graphics that were extremely impressive for the time.
Have you ever had a chance to play The Last Story? It's another Mistwalker Studio game, with brilliant characters and one of the most natural and believable love stories in all of gaming. It was one of the three games brought to the US during Operation Rainfall, and as a late generation Wii game, really pushed the boundaries of what the system could do. I don't know if you emulate, but you should really try to play the game if you can. I have a copy, but they're pretty rare these days.
So good!!! It's what made me adore RPGs. Watched my dad play it when I was like 6 and 7 and he wouldn't let me play it until I was 15. No jokes, I literally cried the day he randomly told me I could play it 😂😂
I've been wanting to play it so bad! I literally have a Wii and I have the copy of the game 🤣 I just... Haven't go to it yet. Blue Dragon is my fourth favorite RPG too haha, so idk why I haven't played it yet. Mistwalker is my favorite company ngl.
ruclips.net/video/rfUFMg_lkhY/видео.html
Here's my rambling about why it's my favorite game if you are interested
@@rpgranked My dad brought home an Intellivision in 1981 and that became our first console. I remember when he finally let me play Dungeons & Dragons: Cloudy Mountain when I was 5. I had only watched him play up to that point and the monsters scared me.
So yeah, I can relate!
@@rpgranked The Last Story is truly an epic story and a unique experience. There's nothing else like it. You'll grow to love the town and the people, and the minute you finish it, you'll want to play again with a different party and skills. It even has character customization, which I used to keep everyone easy to identify in the chaos of battle. Just pick a color for each character. Makes a huge difference.
BOW manage to do something awesome.
I start to play, see my map, is all empty... So I need a tower! Ok lets go to that one on the east.
3 hours later, I didn't reach the tower cause im in a mountain with freezing water and a Shrine under all in the west... And all the time i was having fun.
That's the best part of the game! Haha
I played TOTK more times than BOTW, but both don't really feel realistic as Zelda historically was. I understand they wanted to put open world stuff, but the dungeons are generally pretty bad in both games, and imo TOTK (except for the water temple) has better dungeons and very good pre-dungeon quests compared to BOTW.
The Water Temple is horrendous in both games but in a way better than TOTK. For TOTK I am pretty sad that they didn't utilize the Ancient Zora Waterworks as a dungeon, there was a LOT of potential.
One other things that BOTW has better than TOTK is the Champion abilities which are generally much smoother and simpler than what we have in TOTK.
There was room for a LOT of improvement in TOTK. I wished we had these:
-Original style dungeons like we had in TP for example, they are in the top in terms of Dungeons imo.
-Expansion of the Kingdom of Hyrule out of its main region, since it's pretty much a copy paste of BOTW's map
-Emphasis on the Triforce and detailed info about the Imprisoning War
-Artifacts like we had in old Zelda games
For BOTW when I bought the game:
-Musics are a downgrade from past games. For me there's no debatting (imo) except Kass', Ganon and Hyrule Castle's themes
-Divine Beasts are terrible dungeon, worse than what we have in TOTK imo. We know what we're gonna have to do once we've done the first Divine Beast (The only good boss imo was Kohga, and I'm dead serious, he was the only really original boss in the game). Just like TOTK, I want real dungeons back.
That's just my pov though, I personally feel sad BOTW and TOTK are generally a Dungeon and Music downgrade from past games. There was room for good open worlds but they sort of made weird unfinished games.
This is a totally fair comment! Totally agree. I get why people love the games, but they aren't for me in the end. Minish Cap and LBW are my favorite haha so, I'm sure you can imagine
@@rpgranked Yes I can, and that's fair, I really liked the video and analysis. A lot of people don't like point of views that differ from others (I am talking about some people in the comments being disrespectful of your POV), but those aren't to be listened to
@@FenrirGrayhound exactly 😂 people can't agree to disagree these days, thanks for the kindness!
totk wants you to go up or go down, the middle always looks cluttered and looking up you either gonna see sky islands or clouds, gone are the beautiful skies and vistas of botw's hyrule, the sky stuff should really be invisible until you get near them, because as it is the world feels almost claustrophobic now
I totally feel this!
My first Zelda game was the gold cartridge for the NES. A Link to the Past was my favorite game as a kid. That being said, BoTW was a major disappointment to me because of how inconsequential Ganon was. Ganon was ALWAYS a menacing force. In BoTW, you could argue there are NPCs harder than him.
Complete letdown for a 30 year plus fan.
Haha I can see that lol
So the question is which one do I play first if I haven’t played either?
Play breath of the wild first. ToTK is a sequel, so it's weird to play it first 😅
Breath of the wild better cuz Teba better then Tulin.
🤣🤣 great points brought up here fs
I personally don't like tears of the kingdom. Haven't touched that thing in a year. Felt like a chore towards the end. That secret fifth "dungeon" really rubbed me the wrong way. I finished it because I paid money for it.
Fair enough!!! I liked the construct factory haha but so much other stuff was just annoying haha
In retrospect botw will be considered the better game, even though tears improved EVERYTHING and is the updated experience. The next 10 to 15 years people will hold this as true. Its would take a disconnected generation to say nahh tears is better.
Hahaha agreed
I think totk is objectively better but I have more of an emotional connection to botw. Tears of the Kingdom is probably more fun with loads of mechanics/features distractions whereas botw is more of a contemplative immersive experience. Atmosphere was a central theme of botw as the title suggests. I see totk as basically botw part 2 - part 1 was about atmosphere and experiencing the world. Part 2 more focused on filling that world with gameplay mechanics. I agree with you about the divine beast themes - some of the best compositions in a Zelda game.
I don't play these games anymore BUT when this was announced I KNEW hardcore Zelda and rpg fans would hate the building mechanic. SURE ENOUGH
Hahaha fair enough! I didn't hate it but I didn't love it. It was definitely well-done and admirable but it sure wasn't for me lol
I can recreate Zelda 1, Adventure of Link, A Link to the Past, Ocarina, and Links Awakening just by exploring. I haven't tried tears yet but it's weird seeing people use the word disappointing to describe a Zelda.
I mostly find it disappointing since it isn't for me haha. I feel like I'm kinda playing a weird Minecraft thing 😂 honestly, it might end up being your favorite game of all time like many people, it's really just 100% subjective. But like, for me, I'll take Oracle of Ages any day over Tears. Haha.
I’m sorry but music is going to TOTK, colgera, Intro theme, ganon battle, demon dragon battle, corrupted rito village, diving into the wind temple, enemy theme, and so much more DESTROYS the music in botw. I’m not shaming on your opinion but the dungeons in TOTK are soooooo much better then botw in my opinion, instead of the same dungeon with the same music repeated over and over again. You have different boss battles, different music, different and slightly better puzzles, and different and bigger areas. Take the lightning temple, that is better then all divine beasts combined in my opinion. Even if totk dungeons were reskins of divine beasts, doesn’t that mean their better? Better atmosphere, I give botw dungeons a 5, and totk a 7 because botw did have the worst dungeons, and even though totk are similar, totk still improves on them, entering the temples are soooo much better in totk then botw as well. Climbing higher and higher for the wind temple, defending and figuring out tri force puzzles for the lightning temple, the forgotten water works for the zora temple really nailed the abandoned feel and swimming up to the sky’s was so cool, and riding the plane to take down those death mountain monsters felt so fun. You can’t have the proving ground shrines compared the the master trial DLC, it’s a dlc and it has way more purpose then a simple little shrine you can enter along your way, that’s just not equal ranking
I'm sorry but none of the dungeons have the same music? That literally isn't a thing. But I get your point 😂
Every divine beast has a completely different song lol. But I get that you like the dungeons better! I just loved the idea of the Divine Beasts and I really thought the puzzles weren't really worse than those in TOTK. I will give it to TOTK, the dungeons are very atmospheric. For me, the only standout tracks in TOTK were the Colgera and Sky Island themes lol. Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion, I like seeing different opinions 🤩
@@rpgranked yeah I’m not trying to be rude, I feel it’s very hard saying an opinion without it coming out rude for some reason. They both are great games and I agree with many things from this video. I just subbed, this video was very enjoyable to compare and things!
@@BonkyBoko9 oh no! I could tell! You are totally fine! I love hearing differing opinions!
@@BonkyBoko9 It didn't sound rude at all! Thanks for subbing! I've been trying to reach 1K for like a year haha and I've had the watch hours for like ten months 🤦🤦
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Thanks bro 😁 I'm glad it's not just me 🤣
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I think totk abilities and movement are way more fun but there’s just something missing. I think for me it’s because totk didn’t change enough for it to feel new, but now I try and replay botw it feels boring because I miss the totk abilities. The games ruin each other lmao
Trial of the Sword and Master Mode was the best part of BOTW. The fact that TOTK won't have it, makes it the lesser game. Breath of the Wild is the better game.
Awww yeah
Blue is a better color than green. That explains everything!
Ahhahaa
I think the thing that actually explains everything is blue is better than gray.
Another thing I was feeling in TotK is that there is so much more fog everywhere, especially between the sky islands and the surface, which can make it very hard to see where I’m landing. Similarly, shrines have the same problem. There definitely was fog in BotW, but not nearly as much.
Fair fair!
i completley dissagree with towers , i would rather solve a puzzle than climb the tower to activate it .But nice video keep it up !
@@_Nightday_ fair enough!! I liked that climbing up was kinda a puzzle itself since i activated all of them early in the game but i can definitely see why you'd disagree. Thanks!!!
The algorithm knows I like videos that critique ToTK, and indeed I immediately click on this.
I love Breath of the Wild. I'm extremely disappointed by ToTK. So I'll be curious to hear the arguments in this video.
Yesssssir. Hope you enjoy! Lmk what you think good sir!
@@rpgranked
So interestingly there's some overlap between what we didn't like, but not all that much.
I think you did a great job arguing your points and putting everything forward in a clear and concise way (an hour may not seem consice but you could talk for days about this game, so summarising everything in an hour is no small feat).
My issues with the game are very fundamental, but I'd generally summarise them as mostly stemming from the exploration. You talked a fair bit about the world and all that, but for me, the exploration in ToTK compared to BoTW is where it fundamentally falls apart. Nintendo re-using the overworld from BoTW was a very bold decision, and I don't think it paid off, because I spent most of my time with the game feeling underwhelmed that I was simply re-exploring something I had already seen with no changes. I found the sky islands and the depths to be largely disappointing, albeit with some noteable highlights - they were a major case of diminishing returns, leaving a good first impression but after a while feeling extremely repetitive and uninpsired. But I think my main issue is the exploration rewards. If we're being forced to re-explore so much of the same areas, we should at least get something good out of it. But instead, when I explored, whether it be on the surface, in the sky, or in the depths, the reward was almost always underwhelming: a crappy Amiibo costume that I never cared about 6 years ago when BoTW came out and care even less about now.
There's a lot of other elements you raise - some things I agree with, others I disagree with, as you'd expect.
In general though, I think you did a great job. Honestly I was surprised when you said you were in high school because I assumed you were older; you come across very well. You say you were twelve when you first played BoTW. I was in my last year of university - which makes be feel very old! But I think to put your thoughts across so well at such a young age is really impressive, and I think you could have a great future ahead for you if you choose to go down that sort of path.
Haha nice!
Yeah it was pretty underwhelming. I had the same problem with the diminishing returns, I tried not to talk about that too much in the video because 1) I could go on forever about that and 2) I didn't want to make TOTK fans hate me more than they already do... hahaha. I KNOW it was always rehashed costumes that had the same fundamental functions and looked basically the same! Did love finding the Biggoron Sword and the Sea-Breeze Boomerang, though, those were my two favorite weapons in the game lol. Yeah, I liked finding the Sage's Wills in the Sky Islands, and there were like 3-4 good islands, but for the most part, they were just copy-pasted archipelagos. And the depths had the two temples, which was cool, a few good chests, the fun coliseums, and the really cool Yiga sidequests, and I liked that the Lightroots corresponded with the shrines to tell you were they were if you were stumped, but otherwise? The depths was bland. I did like the Depths better than the Sky though, for better of for worse.
Haha yeah I'm just 16 lol. This is my dream so that literally means so much! You made my day :)
For me personally, I could never get into BOTW , so I can’t make an honest comparison. I resented Modern Zelda because of BOTW, but now I have 60 + hours in TOTK so I want to give BOTW another shot, I think I understand why people like BOTW now since TOTK built upon the foundation that was set by BOTW.
Interestingly enough, some the PRO arguments you had for BOTW such as the atmosphere feeling intense and dreadful sound like negatives to me.
I’m of the same opinion, however I also like the lore and look of ancient sheika compared to zonai. They feel like two different games. Shoulda never taken away guardians though.
Sheika is better imo fs but yeah zonai is cool too lol
They should've made like Guardian Constructs. Same things but with a construct font on them. Would be real cool. Maybe could drop some things that could fuse into ancient arrow rip offs
@@rpgranked Especially since it’s been proven the divine beasts were probably built by the zonai or at least it’s implied due to the sages wearing the divine helms of their respective divine beasts.
Exactly!!
The Zonai being a race of cat people was disappointing.
@@Kruegernator123 yeah definitely
So... does this mean the Thunder Blight ganon is better than the Queen Gibdo?
I found thunder blight more fun, but that's just me!
@@rpgranked yeah but one problem for each Divine beast is you can't revisit them after you defeat the boss
Yeah, that is certainly annoying. I'd say Thunderblight is the only one that can live up to the TOTK bosses though, I just like how ruthless he is
TotK shrines are just straight up the challenge mode thingy from scrap mechanic
Hahaha
The human race is it's own worst enemy. From trolls to people that generally think their opinions are the end all be all, people are just toxic. Everyone has their own opinion and the right to think/express that opinion. I'm personally not a huge fan of either BotW or TotK. They're both great games in their own right but im more of a fan of Wind Waker and the 2D games, that's just my opinion. Its just sad that people make fun of others for their preferences when if they should actually respect others opinions and mind their own business, which is a full time job in itself. Just my 2¢ which isnt worth that much, lol!!
Yeah!! I get that. BOTW is an 86% game and TOTK is a 78% game for me. I like them!!! Just don't, well, love them. Whereas Minish Cap and Link Between Worlds are my absolute favorites!! So I feel that.
Literally this world is cringe. This world would probably be twice as advanced if not more if people could just agree to disagree. 😂 I think that's a little more than 2 cents worth of a comment man. Thanks!
I like botw more to. I don't like building stuff at all 😅 I do like beat up monsters with a metal box 😊😏
Same same hahaha
feels more like banjo kazooie nuts & bolts than a Zelda game >_
@@StevenJeffrey-h2g exaaaaactlt
As someone who didn’t like either of them that much. Totk is definitely the better game
Fair, fair. Thanks for commenting!
Why didnt you like either?
Yunobo works better in the Japanese dub of BOTW. Instead of an insecure preteen in the English Dub, he sounds like a 5 year old in a body that's too big for him. Fits his character much better.
Oh okay! I'll have to check that dub out if I replay the game! That makes him sound like an infinitely better character, thanks for making me aware!
I just cant stand yunobo. I dont know if a 5 year old voice would fix that. I could go on a whole rant. Completely irritating character.
@@ava4689 hahahaha
I disagree, totk made so many good improvements that i simply cant see myself going back to botw for anything other than the story. The shrines feel a lot more interesting in totk, a lot of the gimiky shrines in botw were more tedious than fun, especially the comabt ones. Yes you could just cheese the shrines with ultrahand or acend, but those eureka moments where you figure out what the devs wanted you to do or the shrine teaches you a new way to use a mechanic, it just feels a lot more satisfying than in botw. The divine beasts are also not as interesting themselves outside of the lore aspect as the new dungeons in totk, the bosses were a lot more colorful and needed you to use your new pal in one way, similar to how in previous games youd get a dungeon item and use that item to defeat the dungeon boss, but i will say that using the sages can be annoying because they can also just run away from you when you want to use them.
Overall, i believe totk is just better, tho perhaps because i like the freedom it provides to let me do whatever i want with the powers of fuse, and i also enjoy just creating dumb contraptions and sending koroks flying. Im not trying to crap on your oppinion, i just disagree. Keep having fun! Thats what games are all about!
Love this comment! Thanks for respectfully disagreeing, this is always my favorite type of comment! I totally get your opinion for sure!
I think TOTK is more replayable in terms of how to explore the world and stuff, but I still like BOTW better lol
Went back after TOTK and still liked BOTW a little better
The vibes are perfect in botw. And sometimes less is better. Totk is just too much sometimes, too much stuff, too much armor that does the same shit, its like the autistic brother of BOTW
This is the most perfect description 😂 that last sentence is crazy
A lot of that armor is just reused from the BOTW DLCs too.
Yeah
Totk best combat in the Zelda series? No it’s not. Twilight princess has that trophy with all the hidden skills and the hero’s shade
Unfortunately that's like the one Zelda game I've never played :( so that would explain it
On an unrelated note if you enjoy story drivin games try indie games a few I personally love are Omori, Undertale, or Celeste
Undertale was solid! I liked it enough! Not to offend you, but I think that is one of the most overrated games ever 😂 still great, but there are so many RPGs that have better stories than that imo. And Celeste is also awesome!!! Both great games.
@@rpgranked no it’s all good just offering suggestions for games you may like
@@dragoncuber5115 haha thanks! I should check out Omori lol. I need to play undertale two more times lol, I only got the neutral run unfortunately. I know that's the most boring so I understand it's likely my fault it isn't one of my favorite games haha
@@rpgrankedIn my humble opinion multiple playthroughs of Undertale are kind of required to get the full experience, personally I find the most fulfilling order to be Neutral -> True Pacifist -> Genocide (with genocide being optional as it is very grindy, is narratively very grim and a major tonal shift but contains the two hardest and most epic bosses in the game). The Pacifist and Genocide routes both serve as proper conclusions to the game's story but in tonally opposite ways, unfortunately the fact that if you kill even one monster in the neutral route you have to play the entire game again for the true pacifist ending is one of the game's biggest weaknesses, following the true pacifist ending unlocks a lot of end game content which were among the best and most memorable moments in the game for me. I heavily, heavily recommend you revisit Undertale with True Pacifist in mind, you will find new story encounters with some of the main characters that really flesh them out, a new and very thematically interesting area and a new final boss.
I haven't made up my mind yet on which I prefer, but there a decent chance I'll end up agreeing that BOTW is the overall better game. The agrument that TOTK makes BOTW obsolete and there's no reason to go back to it is complete nonsense. Even though they take place in the same Hyrule, the 2 games are very different from a design perspective. I'm in total agreement with you that BOTW's shrines are much better, and that the divine beasts are way more interesting and more fun to play than TOTK's "dungeons". But TOTK did make some serious improvement on certain things that are hard to ignore, like the fuse ability for weapons and having significantly better boss battles. It's a tough call for me, but I think I lean very slightly in favor of BOTW these days.
I totally agree with you!
Story? What story? Link wake up. Link look for stuff. Link fight guy who essentially didnt even really eff w him. The most non compelling sht ever. The little peoples micro stories are more interesting than the end of the world lol. The eternal relationship between ganon and link is like non existent. Ganon used to be like darth vader and link was like luke with the depth and tension. Link feels like he just kinda uk whimsically eventually stumble upon ganons castle n fights him.
Lol I think the stories in both suck 🤣🤣
totk was amazing, It filled in many of the plot holes in the botw lore. even if they have less shrines they added a whole underground to explore, making totks map 2x the size of botw. the mystery of shooting brightbloom seeds into pitch darkness lighting it up, finding all sorts of goodies and terrifying creatures is part of whats fun about it. You could say ultra hand is just a copy of magnesis but I disagree, you can fuse and create any objects putting together crazy zonai devices and creating clever ways to solve your problems, I personally feel its an upgraded magnesis. Ultrahand was exaclty what they were going for in botw but failed. And then theres fuse, you can basically create fire, electric cryo and bomb arrows at any time, also implicating a bunch of new creative ways to defeat your enemies. Theres so much more creative freedom now that I wished we had in botw.
Oh I totally agree!! I loved fuse, and I think Ultrahand is objectively so much better than magnesis. I just felt like there was *too* much Ultrahand for me, because I'm more of a one and done kinda guy, not an abstract building type of guy. I tried to stress that Ultrahand was objectively awesome haha, hopefully that came through 😁
Also Fuse was so so so amazing. That's why I gave the combat a 10/10 because I adored that. Ultrahand is awesome, but in the end, I felt like BOTW was more puzzle-centric, and TOTK had a lot of building... Which is great, but just not really for me.
Fuse on arrows was absolutely genius, soooo fun
I'm not gonna lie... I feel like totk introduces far more plot holes, and doesn't really answer anything from botw. If anything, it kind of ignores botw's story almost completely :(
also the depths are just the main map flipped upside down, and there isnt much to find down there imo
@@colecube8251 I agree the depths was super cool at first but got quite boring real fast... And yeah, that's one of the biggest problems with TOTK, it absolutely forgets BOTW happened like BOTW really was a tech demo. Whereas Majora's mask worked because it was set somewhere else, here it just kinda... Ignores everything. We barely get to even see the impact of the champions from BOTW in like any way..m
@@colecube8251 my guess is they wanted to make this more stand-alone so people who didn't play botw could have a more accessible game? Although that wouldn't make much more sense because wouldn't they want people to also buy botw? Hahaha
They took a bad system with the weapon breaking and made it more aggressive and annoying
@@S-420 yup 😂 especially at the beginning of the game, as all your weapons suck until you fuse some good stuff 😂
I just get my copy of Botw, im enjoying it! Is not too late (2024) to aknowlege the game
For sure!! It's definitely not too late
I played BOTW for the first time since 2017 after I swore off the Switch after the one I bought on launch bricked on me after a month of play time. I fell in love with the game all over again.
I am currently playing TOTK and it was very jarring for me. I never knew how much I would miss Sheikah Slate bombs, or Statis+.
I agree, BotW is just better
Facts
@@rpgranked Though I think it's debatable without the BotW DLCs
Same haha. If TOTK had amazing dlc, it'd be another story I'm sure.
this was a great video bringing up good points and honestly imo I remember having more fun with botw but I think totk is the better game. anyways this video deserves more attention then it got. I only hope if there's a totk expansion it improves the game
Yeah! I can see that! Thanks, that means a lot. I hope so! If there isn't one though, that's okay... I've got quite the backlog haha
Can we call the "ultrahand" what it really is?...just a dev tool dude....gluing stuff together is not the same as thinking and controlling actually intricate physics stuff and the reaction action cause and effects. There is no tension in the system or skill. Link isnt doing it. Its a medieval game and you have a green lanterns ring. Are you ever gunna use the other tools? No. Breath of the wild is simple and beautiful and foreboding and clean. Tears is like "eh do what you want" which is only fun a couple times. Like a game with unlimited cheat codes. Limitations and getting around them are what makes a game fun. Ironically having so many options in tears youre really just gunna do the one most easy and convenient thing. Theres not a sense of growth in your skill. And you arent a better gamer. Youre not mastering the glider. Youre gluing a fan on a stick and just flying there. It wouldnt be so bad if you could only do the ultrahand once a day for like 60 seconds.
In my opinion botw is better than totk in a few ways but totk is better than botw in several ways, improved dungeons, improved bosses, the villan has personality , Very improved final battle, Improved mechanics (physics and hand abilities/runes), improved dungeon build ups, expanded world, improved side quests. Botw positives: Improved ancient champion/sage characters , novelty factor, Better story character relationships. This is just my opinion, I respect your opinion.
I personally also find this a little unfair because a few of your points are based on BOTW dlc. TOTK I feel like dlc should be disincluded until TOTK gets it as well.
Yeah, that is true about the DLC... I can remake this video once the DLC comes out if I still like BOTW better if you want 😁
@@rpgranked Yeah that'd make the video more interesting because it compares two things at once.
Yeah I agree with a lot of your points!! Thanks for sharing!
Agree: Improved bosses, villain has personality, final battle, world, side quests (if shrine quests don't count)
Disagree: improved dungeons, improved mechanics (the physics were so fun in botw), improved dungeon build ups (I liked the quick fun cutscenes a lot more than the super long things in totk for the most part...), side quests (if shrine quests do count)
@@thelegendmario1064 ooh maybe I'll just do a video "which game had the better dlc" so I'm not too redundant? Thoughts?
If it doesnt have story then kinda whats the point. Other games have better characters. Other games have better graphics. Other games have better puzzles. Better combat. Better villains. Everything. If zelda doesnt have a good story youre essentially playing Nintendo minecraft without minecraft. Ur just kinda roamin around and it means nothing. Yea its fun to roam around. So is every other game. Without the fact that its link...lets be honest itd be nothing. Nothing. Great game systems and stuff. But cmon man. Zelda has no mystery in these games either. Its like oh yea everyone knows link loves zelda so lets just give up completely on the romance there.
Hahahaha
really missed the lonely atmosphere in totk, made exploration less interesting
Me too!! Makes way more of a difference than I'd ever have expected.