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Nice video. Probably should have the kid serve to the ad court like you are for a better comparison. One might think the kid's smaller shoulder turn could be due to the fact he's serving to the deuce side.
The serve surgeon! I love it. I learned everything I know from your serve series. Well worth the money. Even my 18 year old who plays high school tennis and throws compliments around like manhole covers, says, "If you're serving bigger in L.A. at your age, your name is Peter Sampras."
Hey Jeff I love the tip of leading with the elbow. I think your student isn’t getting shoulder turn because he is not “cutting the toes” for his take back. You are on the other hand. Tell him to cut his toes! That really helped me with the take back. Cheers!
@@sunsioux444 from the initial preparation position the server's non hitting arm proceeds with the ball toss while the hitting arm takes the racquet to the drop position. How it gets to the drop position can vary depending on the server's technique. One technique is to swing the racquet straight down and then back up in a circular motion where the racquet "cuts the toes" as it moves into the motion. More abbreviated swings tend to move the racquet directly up and over the server's head almost as though the server is making a military salute with their hand while still holding the racquet. ruclips.net/video/6Gz4GZvmkgY/видео.html
Jeff,Excellent video, it appears to me that the major difference between your serve and your student's is torso momentum. You lean your torso back and bring it forward rapidly which propels the arm and racket into the ball. Your arm and shoulder are relaxed and the stomach muscles do the real work. It is almost like delivering a vicious head butt. Your serve is typical among world class players, Federer, Sampras, etc. This method prevents shoulder injuries because the stomach muscles do most of the work. When a player's arm and shoulder are totally relaxed the racket drop is more pronounced as yours is. Please keep up the great work, your serve is a great inspiration. Sincerely, Norman Ashbrooke
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I have tried this and with many players it works. It’s always good to also have other options as all players are different but this clip gives some useful tips. Thumbs up.
Great video. The curve on the back. Excellent. That explain everything. That explain me why the toss of the ball too. If you do not do that curve in yhe back you will find the ball earlier and the serve will be unefficient.
Hi Jeff, this is a great video. At 4:18 appears your wrist opens ("flips down" / wrist extension), is that necessary with the serve with racquet drop? It appears slightly waiter's tray? Would be great if you posted a little description on the wrist flip down. I have mixed in the first move, racquet drop, but find I don't get the right momentum when going up (little locked up). Also, it would be nice to see a video of too much turn on the serve. Thank you, Dave
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Hi Jeff, question: Do you consciously rotate/drop your left shoulder after your reach the trophy position, to lead the right elbow and the rest of the body ? If not, when you reach the trophy position, which part of the body should be the first one to move ? leg ? left shoulder(the one without the racquet) or right shoulder(the one holding the racquet) As always, thank you so much for the great video to share your knowledge !
I have a poor racquet drop. Some have suggested that I severely stagger the hitting arm. So when the toss is released, the arm is still down at your side, with racquet tip pointed to the ground. See Serena and Sampras. I have found that this results in a better "throwing' motion and a little better drop vs the halfway stagger of Federer. Has full stagger also helped your students achieve better drop?
Great points! Looks as if the correct drop is away from the body as opposed to down the back. Is this a product of cocking (supinating) the hand full stop? Or from pointing the elbow forward?
From what see Jeff, your wrist is also much more relaxed than his, allowing for more whipping. Having the wrist relaxed and leaving the racquet drop with its own weight makes the "leading with elbow" thing easier I think.
Really liked the video. Was shocked how well you served right handed until I saw you just flipped the video. I like when you do that because I'm a tight handed player. Thanks
I've been working on getting into a good trophy position and I've made real progress, but one of the issues I'm still dealing with is a slight elbow drop and slight elbow movement forward just before I start dropping the racquet to swing up into the ball. I'm looking for a mental image on how to correct that movement. Should I be thinking about thrusting my elbow up from the trophy position?
I have exactly the same problem no matter how I hard I tried to avoid it & I suspect it’s due to muscle tightness at chest or sub-optimal shoulder external rotation range.
2:59 Why do all serve analysis videos on youtube compare a deuce side serve to an ad side serve, claiming that the deuce side serve has such bad shoulder turn. But, you serve towards the other side, so you are naturally turned more into the court, it's not a good comparison sigh...
I think it’s actually both deuce side if you look at other videos this guy is a lefty and I think he reflected the video in order to make it easier to compare if you look at the background and shadows it seems to come off that way
That's a great place to start; becoming aware of the mistakes. Then you can start to work on the solutions. What kind of issues are you having with your serve?
@@TennisEvolution definite hitch in my throw.. lack of turn and rotation in my toss... grip is fine.. just always had a hitch. Ground strokes and volleys are great... serve motion/throwing motion has always been off.
@@ButtonMasherlighting This lesson can help you with your toss ruclips.net/video/XpDRxMXeVok/видео.html For a better shoulder turn, I recommend using a platform stance. ruclips.net/video/5Ld0PSgO4pY/видео.html We've got more free serve lessons in our channel that can help you to serve better. If you wanna take it to the next level, we've got two serve courses designed to help you build a solid serve step by step. Let me know if you're interested on them.
I don't disagree with what you say but I just wonder whether this is unrealistic. Very few amateur players have a very low racquet drop because they simply don't have the same strength, flexibility or conditioning as someone who trains everyday, particularly an ex-ATP player! Look at a slow motion video of Tim Smyczek serving for example. His ranges of movement are insane - even more extreme than yours...that is not something that can be easily replicated by amateurs.
Tennis Evolution - Online Tennis Lessons Yes I agree, amateurs may not have the flexibility to drop low to around the butt like pros do but amateurs can certainly improve their drop from mid-back to lower back like the student in this video. Baby steps!
OH Hell yes. Some jeff Salzenstein on my your tube. I haven't been this excited since Rafa crushed the US OPEN and Federer dumped it to avoid Rafa eating his heart.
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Serve myths debunked: Former Top 100 ATP Pro, Jeff Salzenstein, is exposing 3 common myths that could be crippling your serve potential. Most players make at least 1 of these 3 mistakes... Do you? goo.gl/7ujY92
Nice video. Probably should have the kid serve to the ad court like you are for a better comparison. One might think the kid's smaller shoulder turn could be due to the fact he's serving to the deuce side.
The serve surgeon! I love it. I learned everything I know from your serve series. Well worth the money. Even my 18 year old who plays high school tennis and throws compliments around like manhole covers, says, "If you're serving bigger in L.A. at your age, your name is Peter Sampras."
Hey Jeff I love the tip of leading with the elbow. I think your student isn’t getting shoulder turn because he is not “cutting the toes” for his take back. You are on the other hand. Tell him to cut his toes! That really helped me with the take back. Cheers!
Thanks for watching Julian! Appreciate the feedback and advice .
what does it mean to cut the toes?
@@sunsioux444 from the initial preparation position the server's non hitting arm proceeds with the ball toss while the hitting arm takes the racquet to the drop position. How it gets to the drop position can vary depending on the server's technique. One technique is to swing the racquet straight down and then back up in a circular motion where the racquet "cuts the toes" as it moves into the motion. More abbreviated swings tend to move the racquet directly up and over the server's head almost as though the server is making a military salute with their hand while still holding the racquet. ruclips.net/video/6Gz4GZvmkgY/видео.html
Jeff,Excellent video, it appears to me that the major difference between your serve and your student's is torso momentum. You lean your torso back and bring it forward rapidly which propels the arm and racket into the ball. Your arm and shoulder are relaxed and the stomach muscles do the real work. It is almost like delivering a vicious head butt. Your serve is typical among world class players, Federer, Sampras, etc. This method prevents shoulder injuries because the stomach muscles do most of the work. When a player's arm and shoulder are totally relaxed the racket drop is more pronounced as yours is. Please keep up the great work, your serve is a great inspiration. Sincerely, Norman Ashbrooke
Get the "11 step Checklist to the Perfect Serve" and discover the exact methods used by former Top 100 ATP Pro, Jeff Salzenstein, to dramatically improve your serve: goo.gl/QNLzKX
The true Serve Surgeon talking !! Many thanks!
Krishna Raju you are welcome! I appreciate it
Brilliant stuff. More videos like this please 👍
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I have tried this and with many players it works. It’s always good to also have other options as all players are different but this clip gives some useful tips. Thumbs up.
drsous70 thank you 🙏🏻. Please share the video with others.
Great video. The curve on the back. Excellent. That explain everything. That explain me why the toss of the ball too. If you do not do that curve in yhe back you will find the ball earlier and the serve will be unefficient.
Excellent Jeff, great explanation and instruction here. The first move almost decides the serve. Many thanks, Gordon.
ripleygordon it sure does. Most don’t practice this
Tennis Evolution sorry， first move refers to what？it means shoulder turn and hip turn？
rui liu the first 6 inches of the motion. Shoulder and hip turn
I love the idea of turning the shoulders first, I am going to try it!
I really like the tip of improving thoracic (upper back) flexibility rather than lower back, to improve drop. Never heard that before.
Raul TW one of the missing links of the serve. You are smart to pick that up...
Hi Jeff, this is a great video. At 4:18 appears your wrist opens ("flips down" / wrist extension), is that necessary with the serve with racquet drop? It appears slightly waiter's tray? Would be great if you posted a little description on the wrist flip down. I have mixed in the first move, racquet drop, but find I don't get the right momentum when going up (little locked up). Also, it would be nice to see a video of too much turn on the serve. Thank you, Dave
David Ra I’ll see what I can do
Fantastic! Very helpful for my serve improvement. Thanks.
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Hey jeff, I feel that in shadow swings i execute the racket drop very well, but on a real serve, my racket drop suffers. Any suggestions?
I know how you feel. My form looks great... if I don't have to hit the ball.
same here unfortunately
Hi Jeff, question: Do you consciously rotate/drop your left shoulder after your reach the trophy position, to lead the right elbow and the rest of the body ? If not, when you reach the trophy position, which part of the body should be the first one to move ? leg ? left shoulder(the one without the racquet) or right shoulder(the one holding the racquet)
As always, thank you so much for the great video to share your knowledge !
Supernovasia great questions. Everyone is a little different
I have a poor racquet drop. Some have suggested that I severely stagger the hitting arm. So when the toss is released, the arm is still down at your side, with racquet tip pointed to the ground. See Serena and Sampras. I have found that this results in a better "throwing' motion and a little better drop vs the halfway stagger of Federer. Has full stagger also helped your students achieve better drop?
Raul TW I don’t focus Just on this stagger
How do you consciously lead with the elbow? Thanks
Great points! Looks as if the correct drop is away from the body as opposed to down the back. Is this a product of cocking (supinating) the hand full stop? Or from pointing the elbow forward?
Thanks😊
You're welcome. Thank you for watching Abdullah. What other types of lessons you'd like to see from me in the near future?
Jeff.
Trophy with knee bend
Now knee bend thing is tricky ... wrt toss
Check out the lesson below. I think it can help you work on both trophy pose and knee bend.
ruclips.net/video/6fXuh--XQqU/видео.html
From what see Jeff, your wrist is also much more relaxed than his, allowing for more whipping. Having the wrist relaxed and leaving the racquet drop with its own weight makes the "leading with elbow" thing easier I think.
Thibaut Rvl relaxation is huge.
Nice video. Thanks, Jeff. Do yo have anything on the racquet drop on the forehand?
Thank you for this. Very helpful. You should offer online video analysis as a service, if you don't already.
Very interesting comparison. I just wish you had shown the complete serve of your student.
John Wilkinson maybe next time I can do it!
Can you do more videos for leftys?
Alejandro Acevedo yes sir
Really liked the video. Was shocked how well you served right handed until I saw you just flipped the video. I like when you do that because I'm a tight handed player. Thanks
flyerjuls nice !
I enjoyed your vid
Nizamuddin A Thank you! Please share the video with others
my only issue with the compared videos is they are serving from different sides
Will Jerkins the racquet drop has nothing to do with the side served from
Tennis Evolution I agree
How does racquet drop happens?is it natural .. leg drive will make you racquet drop?thank you sir
I've been working on getting into a good trophy position and I've made real progress, but one of the issues I'm still dealing with is a slight elbow drop and slight elbow movement forward just before I start dropping the racquet to swing up into the ball. I'm looking for a mental image on how to correct that movement. Should I be thinking about thrusting my elbow up from the trophy position?
I have exactly the same problem no matter how I hard I tried to avoid it & I suspect it’s due to muscle tightness at chest or sub-optimal shoulder external rotation range.
2:59 Why do all serve analysis videos on youtube compare a deuce side serve to an ad side serve, claiming that the deuce side serve has such bad shoulder turn. But, you serve towards the other side, so you are naturally turned more into the court, it's not a good comparison sigh...
jandroid33 not necessarily. You can still have the same shoulder turn
I think it’s actually both deuce side if you look at other videos this guy is a lefty and I think he reflected the video in order to make it easier to compare if you look at the background and shadows it seems to come off that way
Just watching a video of myself is enough to know I’m not doing anything right but I still try haha.
That's a great place to start; becoming aware of the mistakes. Then you can start to work on the solutions. What kind of issues are you having with your serve?
@@TennisEvolution definite hitch in my throw.. lack of turn and rotation in my toss... grip is fine.. just always had a hitch. Ground strokes and volleys are great... serve motion/throwing motion has always been off.
@@ButtonMasherlighting This lesson can help you with your toss
ruclips.net/video/XpDRxMXeVok/видео.html
For a better shoulder turn, I recommend using a platform stance.
ruclips.net/video/5Ld0PSgO4pY/видео.html
We've got more free serve lessons in our channel that can help you to serve better. If you wanna take it to the next level, we've got two serve courses designed to help you build a solid serve step by step. Let me know if you're interested on them.
also cool to recognize that our students are not always doing what we want to see from them.
C Tomlin very true
I am going out in the morning & start practicing LEADING WITH MY ELBOW, Thx
J L Kent nice! Let us know how it goes
Another difference is the Angle at elbow joint before drop. Yours is less than 90. His is about 100
I don't disagree with what you say but I just wonder whether this is unrealistic. Very few amateur players have a very low racquet drop because they simply don't have the same strength, flexibility or conditioning as someone who trains everyday, particularly an ex-ATP player! Look at a slow motion video of Tim Smyczek serving for example. His ranges of movement are insane - even more extreme than yours...that is not something that can be easily replicated by amateurs.
Gavin S you can develop your body to do this over time .
Tennis Evolution - Online Tennis Lessons Yes I agree, amateurs may not have the flexibility to drop low to around the butt like pros do but amateurs can certainly improve their drop from mid-back to lower back like the student in this video. Baby steps!
Tennis serving technique was useful.
I don't see why you don't at least play some Challenger matches with that nasty serve.
Reuel Ray I need a lot more than what I have now to play challengers
OH Hell yes. Some jeff Salzenstein on my your tube. I haven't been this excited since Rafa crushed the US OPEN and Federer dumped it to avoid Rafa eating his heart.
Robert Mitchell boom!
What are you saying?????!!!!!! They played after that in Shanghai and Federer beat Nadal.
Shanghai? Who cares about Shanghai? Nobody is gonna remember Shanghai. Another panicked Fedhed whose Nadal dominating the year and Federer.
You still need to fix your foot fault =D
Aleksander Ortynski for sure !