BMW S1000RR Full review//Better than Ducati Panigale?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Ive tested the Ducati Panigale V4, is the BMW S1000RR not only cheaper but a better bike all round?
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I own the 2022 S1000RR M Sport owned it 14 months now and I love it, mods got rid nearly all the black plastic panels for carbon fibre, replaced the foot pegs with the M versions which make a hell of a difference. Grips did suffer with vibration wrist ache purchase Grip Puppies ( Amazon) just slide them over the standard grips it increases the diameter and softer on the hands and wrist's night and day change. Double bubble dark screen like you over 6ft tall. Purchase Extra Comfort Seat off eBay thicker and softer no more numb arse. ASV levers fully adjustable. So dam happy with the BMW. New sub here ride safe me old mucker. 😎👌
Agreed mate the Msport colours are spot on. But the all black is my next favourite.
The M1000RR in the black carbon is unreal and I love the Aero disc and the added carbon parts with the red blue and black it just looks unreal.
Yeah but sadly the dealer doesn't have the mid £30k bike on demo fleet :). I wish they did though
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Its been so long since I saw a nice sunny day and dry road here in western Ireland that this makes me feel good. My bikes have been stuck in the garage on their trickle chargers for months.
Ah man that sucks. Today is one of those days though so don’t feel too bad. Just hit up my Ducati videos if you want more sun. Was 30’+ when I was out on them 🤣🤙
I'm curious how shorter riders feel. Do they feel just as compressed? I don't think mirrors on sportbikes don't really help. I'm surprised nobody has incorporated a rear view camera into their bikes yet.
Maybe there's a gap in the market you could hit up. See a problem, provide an answer. Im happy to test it out for you once you've created it :)
I am 5'9" and it feels the S1000 was specially made for me - just perfect.
Ok i have a 2022 Ducati Panigale and i buy today a new S1000RR 2024 and i red some comments that say ducati is overpriced like an italian Pizza…ok it’s funny but there is no other thing in the world better than a ducati especially a Panigale…i know i will return in ducati in the future and the reason that i change is the chilometers of my panigale and the devaluation and the desire of try every sports bike but the reality is that the emotion is with panigale and just next to her a S1000rr
Enjoy what you ride mate, if that's your lady in red then one day you will go back to her :). Enjoy the S1000RR of now though and also enjoy not burning your inner thighs every ride.
@@DSR1YT hahahaha it’s so true…the heat of the Panigale is like stay inside the fire and now i’m happy that i can ride without this pain 😂
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It's when people deny there's any heat and tell me im doing something wrong with the bike. They just dont like to hear anything negative about their bike :). Its a great bike, but I wouldn't own a panigale to ride around on, just to own and enjoy looking at it :P
@@DSR1YT yes i agree, many people talk about his bike without be objective, the Panigale V4 was my biggest dream and it hurts me when the bmw will be ready at the dealer and i have to leave the V4 but panigale have no only positive aspects!
Sure is awesome in aesthetic, incredible performance…but is hot like fire…the seat is very high and ave no fuel gauge…
The more i think about it the more i believe BMW is best overall 1000cc available now,
One concern if anyone can help with it, is it a hot bike?? How does it compare to Ducati V4 m that bike is crazy hot.
Having ridden both bikes I agree the V4 is ridiculously hot, the S1000RR is nothing like that. I had no issues on my test ride and I was out on if for a good few hours.
I think for the money bmw is the way. If you have lots..ducati and expensive servicing.. ducati is to a degrees bragging rights. But all around rain snow and shine bmw... great review thank you...
When you are getting up to this cost segment you’ve almost got the pick of the crop haven’t you. Thankfully the BMW is still a little cheaper on that front. And an awesome bike, better than the panigale V4 IMO.
@@DSR1YT the ducati v4 is beautiful.. v2 is probably a better road bike but v4 looks better.. if they made the v2 a bigger bike I reckon thry would sell more. See I prefer the sound of the r1 over the v4 . Just display is too small .. you can't complain over the bmw.. I know I'd pick bmw or ducati for my local dealer.. .. but all amazing bikes and I know anyone who gets to ride these are lucky with today's prices.. just sold my 06 999 .. gutted but mortgage rate just gone up in the uk 😪
BMW parts and service make the Ducati parts and service look like a flea market bargain. The new Ducatis now go 35,000 miles before the first valve check. No more DESMO valves on the V4 engine. Longer oil change intervals due to more oil capacity as well. Audi invested millions in Ducati and gave them a lot of new tech, the Ducati ABS and traction control is the best out there. Ducati is on par with BMW for durability.
The Panigale is way under-sprung as standard unless you’re a lightweight. You have to price in front and rear springs with the V4S at least. I’m 6’4” and 100kg and I went from a standard 85 rear to a 115 😂
I am lightweight :), for a sumo wrestler. Manufacturers can't pitch their bikes to suit all sizes of riders, I get that, but its a shame they always go for the lighter riders :)
Im in the market right now for the 2023, S1000rr or the V4. Been around both bikes. Cant decide which one to chose
Everyone is different, but if I was picking between the two and it was a bike I wanted to ride then it would be the S1000RR.
If I wanted something to own and just admire it would be the V4 😁
Since the performance is similar and you find the ergonomics of both to be comfortable, then go with the one that you find most sexy. I won't buy an ugly motorcycle. These are more than just a tool. Any hammer will drive a nail. These are finely tuned performance machines and should have a WOW factor in looks. I bought a Diavel 1260S because it checked all the boxes. Great ergonomics, great power, beautiful Italian styling. Buy with your heart, both brands offer finely tuned high performance machines.
One runs too hot - one doesn’t- get the bmw
As far as power to weight ratios and performance are concerned, another channel just completed their drag race series and the Ducati beat the BMW consistently. They switched riders to eliminate the humor error factor and the Ducati came out on top with all 3 riders. But either bike has more power than anyone can use on the street. Since power is close enough to be equal, then the only two criteria that matter are ergonomics first followed by styling. If the bike hurts your back, buying it would be foolish. If both bikes are equally comfortable, buy with your heart, buy the one that makes you go WOW when you look at it. I don't care what anyone else thinks or says, it is my money and my bike. It has to fit me and I have to love the styling. That is why there are 3 Italians in my garage right now.
Hopefully you give them food and water….
mario,luigi,and gianluca!😂
One runs too hot - get the bmw
@@lg740xx Have you ridden one? Likely not. They don't run too hot, they get warm if you sit for 5 minutes at a traffic stop, but once you move they are no more warm than any other brand.
I’d have to disagree with you there mate, my legs were on fire when I took out the Ducati panigale v4. Had to pull over after 30mins to let my legs and the bike cool down 😁🤙
Personality, as a fan of the older bmws like r69s, and r50/2s etc. Bmw motorcycles belong in black. But the m colors do look nice
Im looking forward to getting on the new M1000XR, that bike looks nice in the M colours.
@@DSR1YT looking forward to that video. And I agree, it does loom sick in the m colors
If you compare vibrations of
BMW and Ducati, would you say bmw is considerably less viby?
I wouldnt say its considerably less viby no. I’d still go for the BMW though to actually ride. Ducati for looking at it :)
So about the same as Ducati …
At least bmw does not generate such amount of heat which is critical for me being in Greece!
Yes mate, ive lived in Cyprus and there is no way id have a Ducati if I could afford it. 100% id get the BMW for Greece.
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How much better does it feel than the zx10r if at all? Im torn between my kawai fan boy inside and being sensible and buying the bmw for next year
I’d go for this all day long over the kawi. I have reviewed the last year or maybe even the year before ZX10r if you want to check that out. 🤙
Which gloves?
They are RST Stunt 3 gloves mate, great for summer riding.
cool ride bro
Cheers Mike. 🤙
Random question but do you always ride with your right hand over the front brake? Just curious, I can see the pros (i.e. if there's a plonker in front of you and you need to access break quickly) but does it not bother your hand?
It’s a fair question mate. For the last 10 years I’ve always ridden with my right finger covering the brake. If and when I’ve got my left hand on the handlebar I will usually ride with a finger covering the clutch lever as well.
Something I’ve done for so long now that when I don’t if feels weird. 😁
@@DSR1YT Impressive, tried playing around with it the other day when I was on my 848 and I was like there's no way I can keep my finger on it hahah!
@stubbk3 So on instructor courses they teach you not to cover it? Is that like an Advanced Riding Course?
Practice is all. It becomes very natural feeling. Stops you gripping the bars too tightly. Keeps a more relaxed top hold 😁
@@britboybike_adventures3813 Your levers are not adjusted properly if you find it uncomfortable. I always replace my levers with comfortable aftermarket levers and adjust them properly. That .5 second time difference will make the difference between a close call and a crash. Spending thousands on a bike but not spending $100 to improve comfort and safety is just being pennywise and pound foolish.
Which one do you prefer? This one or the rsv4?
havent actually been on an RSV4, used to own the Tuono V4 but not RSV4, sorry mate.
@@DSR1YT oohh.. Then ill wait for the rsv4 review then 😄💪
Ducati is Italian and overpriced Like pizza. They sell you a loaf of bread, some cheese and a few slices of tomato for the price of steak.
man, now I want a Dominos
@@DSR1YT a poll on what dominoes please.mines a meteor!🤣
@@mart7798 Stop it. its a sign mate. Me too. Im all about that BBQ base.
@@DSR1YT yeah,its good is the meteor.with the green lidded sauce to dip the balls in!🤣
There’s really no bike as beautiful as a Ducati. Overpriced yes
Bmw have undoubtedly produced a great bike here,power and handling of the highest order coupled with germam build quality and reliabilty id imagine.
Just doesnt light my fire though anymore.its a track weapon imo,certainly cant use the speed on uk roads these days.and why would you want to be bent over aggressively all day?🤔
Great vid though mate,getting slicker!nice!
Designed for he young guns or the oldies that want to pretend their backs don't ache when they get off. Lets face it, they aren't fooling any of us :) Slick is my middle name
Mines 'danger'!
Great sequence of reviews. Keep up the good work. Thanks. G
@@user-hb6ms3mb4t Thanks mate, plenty more to come :)
@@DSR1YT I have the pro black , it’s just your opinion no facts.
Anyone of any size on a sport bike is going to have numb hands and sore wrists if one leans one’s weight on them. This also risks unintended inputs to bike. Get some tank grips, squeeze the tank with your thighs, and hold up your weight with your core letting your hands almost rest on the grips. I’m sure you know all of this already. Lol. You’ll have better control over the bike with fewer aches and pains when you ride it how it’s designed to be ridden.
I’m always laughing at the young bucks riding around on liter bikes leaned hard on their wrists with their elbows locked. 😂
Good advice with the tank grips, something I used to put on my sports bikes, sadly I can't go around whacking them on demo bikes :). Might get some funny looks off the dealers.
The young bucks are also in better shape and stronger than you. So they don't have any old man aches. 😉
Unsafe to ride without both hands on the handlebars!
And you still drive with your hands at 10 & 2 position?
I’m not a riding instructor, I’ll ride my own ride thanks. Still here with no accidents. But you have a good day
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Ride a 2023-ZX-10-RR if you want to feel smooth!!!!
If only my local Kawasaki dealer would get one in I definitely would. 🤙
Graphics too ricey
Everyone complains this bike vibrates at high speeds
Shame it’s the same across this, the s1000r, m1000r and the XR. About time they done something to sort it out.
what is high speed for you?
@@Vral92seen some vids on yt that it vibrates at 140mph and up
@@allnighterist its not vibrating. Nothing out the normal. What you see is in vids dirty wind causing slight wobbles.
@@Vral92 The Ducati is more stabile at high speed. Many riders comment that they were going faster on a Ducati than their previous bike because the Ducati is so much smoother that the sensation of high speed was diminished.