Brian Wilson talks about psychotherapist Eugene Landy
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2016
- Eugene Ellsworth "Gene" Landy (1934-2006) was an American psychologist and psychotherapist best known for his unconventional 24-hour therapy, as well as for ethical violations concerning his treatment of Brian Wilson in the 1980s. The latter events were dramatized in the biographical film Love & Mercy (2014), in which Landy is portrayed by Paul Giamatti.
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It's funny how Mike Love became a villain in Beach Boys history when there was also Murry Wilson, Charles Manson, and Eugene Landy.
Murry Wilson and Kandy were villains too. I don't think Manson belongs in the discussion frankly.
@@subg8858 Mike and Murry were villains to both Brian and Dennis. Landy only to Brian, Manson only to Dennis, but all 4 certainly abused the Wilsons to some extent. (At the same time, all 4 undoubtedly influenced them musically in ways that were at least sometimes positive too...)
@@R68A5050 Landy damaged Brian and Carl's relationship for several years. He convinced Brian that Carl wanted to control him, so I wouldn't say it was only a villain for Brian.
Mike is certainly a lesser evil but an evil none the less.
@@AlexW58
I don’t know if evil is the correct word but from all the interviews I have was watched, he’s definitely a narcissistic.
That moment where Diane Sawyer calls Landy out on his blatant violation of the rules of psychiatry and the oath he took is astonishing. Good on Sawyer for not pulling her punches. Landy just sits there silently, dumbfounded that somebody finally called him out on his bullshit.
"In my field, I'm an artist" Oh My God, that statement in itself os alarming
Actually truthful though. Psychiatry is more pseudo science than science, paricularly back then When Landy started on Brian wasn't far removed from time when psychiatrists were performing lobotomies
Why? What's your reasoning?
Landy was an artist alright, a con artist.
@@subg8858
Landry was never a psychiatrist, genius.
Aren’t you supposed to be offering free E-meter readings to people?
Its really true , the devil is after you he's trying to kill you and GOD is allowing it !
Diane Sawyer grilled him. I miss real journalism.
Poor, poor Brian. He sounded like a kid. I'm glad that he is doing better, hopefully all the way better.
This is so sad, but brian is so unbelievably adorable. How can you not love him?
9:48 Watching this makes me realize that Paul Giamatti was the perfect choice to play Landy in Love and Mercy. It’s just the way he speaks and moves.
Tobytyty101 I think everyone was cast perfectly in that movie, it’s a great movie
Paul Dano killed in that roll!!! he was amazing..
Really, everyone did, except Cusack.. I had binged watched a bunch of Brian interviews then watched the movie.. John didn’t seem at all like Brian..
@@as48507 Interestingly I thought Cusack did a wonderful job. There’s a particular interview with Brian during the time of Landy’s involvement that stands out. Cusack doesn’t necessarily look like Brian, but his mannerisms, delivery, and expressions really stood out. But I agree that everyone else did a wonderful job with their characters
Brian Wilson said Paul Guamati was so good at the role he was scared of him.
@@brendongriffin4164 Yes, Brian actually experienced what was termed as a dissociative episode when meeting Paul Giamatti at the premier of Love and Mercy. Brian had watched the film the night before the premier, and when he saw Paul Giamatti he actually thought the actor was Dr. Landy. He ran out of the room and had to be coaxed back to reality.
The worst part about Landy is how he tied himself to Brian's improvement in both physical and mental health (which is why he ended up being so influential over brian). By giving Brian structure, exercise, and a good diet, and giving him an outlet to express and confront his trauma, he improved Brian's mental state tenfold and made him undeniably a happier person. HOWEVER, Landy did one of the most disgusting things imaginable by making Brian see these very simple solutions as something only Landy could give him (hence the influence). He tricked Brian into believing that without him, he would go back to feeling as shitty as he was before, even though that would simply not be the case if he continued to diet, exercise, avoid the stress of the music industry, and went to talk therapy (if he felt he needed an outlet). Landy ultimately was good at improving people's mental states, especially from a biochemical perspective, however, he abused his methods to gain sole influence and manipulate his patient in order to improve his personal life as well as to enact his power-fantasy of puppeteering an artist, and maybe even becoming an artist himself in some vicinity (hence why he continuously refers to himself as an "artist within his field,") it's clear that Landy had failed dreams he was trying to enact through his relationship with Brian. The most sickening part? You can tell Brian understands that something is not right with the situation he's in, he can tell that not being able to see his family is wrong, and he can even tell that he's in a prison. However because he's so deathly terrified of falling back into that deep depression he was in, he was helpless to cast out Landy on his own.
The moral of the story? If someone says they're trying to help you, even if they do end up improving your mental and physical states, never let them make you believe that only they had the key. EVERYONE has it within themselves to improve, its a matter of knowing what to do and being free enough to actually do it. Glad Landy is dead.
Honestly, l think Landy is a more "civil" version of Charles Manson.
the doc did not help brian one bit wth are you thinking gave him a good diet of drugs isolated him from everyone he starved him of food and life
He saved the dope heads life!
I think Landy just wanted him to get fit so Brian could uphold his end of the contract (unbeknown to Brian) which is why Landy was so militant about it. Landy wanted results from Brian and the sooner he did that the sooner Landy could be seen as someone worth something.
Without Landy Brian would end up like Syd Barret. Period.
Poor guy just really needed and wanted a true friend and someone to love him for him this is very sad!!
Matty K u know he had a family and friends too right? Like he had a son and some wifes
Don't we all
@@Sara-gq6bw He gas light them, too?
But he did meet his second wife and got out from under Landy. He even finished Smile. It's kind of a triumph.
@@brendongriffin4164 Love & Mercy did a great job in detailing the events with Eugene to unreal accuracy. Thank God for his second wife, because without her Brian woulda really been screwed
Listen to Brian's autobiography, he is fine now. Landy was a monster.
Weapons Education and I suppose u know bc u were there right?😂
@@Sara-gq6bw I guess you can't read, listen to his recent autobiography child. He explains what a monster Landy was.
Weapons Education but like did u know Landy? There is always 2 sides of a story right? Like for example i’m assuming you didn’t know that Brian was on the verge of death and was 350 pounds and couldn’t get out of bed and would’ve truly died but then Landy came in and saved his life and that’s not an opinion that’s a fact
@@Sara-gq6bw Read his newest Autobiography, then respond, if you know how to read. A nutritionist is all he needed to get in shape. Not a scam artist.
Weapons Education k well I’m kinda done arguing with u, my grandfather is Eugene hence my name being Sara Landy so I feel like I kinda know a little bit more than u in this instance
In the movie "Love and Mercy" gives a glimpse of these hard time. Such a good movie. Brian was involved in the making of that movie. A must see
His wife Melinda saved his life, she pulled him away from this monster.
Actually, I remember reading that Brian didn't have much involvement in the film.
The moment he died he went straight to hell.....
pretty interesting to watch landy squirm under the direct questions
Exactly!
Never let another human being have access to your mind.
I think special acknowledgement should go to Carl, because he was the one who organized the effort and fought to get Landy out of Brian's life for good, not Melinda like the movie portrays.
Absolutely.
Yeah it was Carl and a woman named Kay who worked for Landy who set the wheels in motion to finally get him free. I'm sure Melinda was there for him but you sure can tell she was executive producer on that movie :)
well i’m not sure about what really happened but in the film melinda isn’t responsible for saving brian, she just sent the copy of the will to carl to give him evidence to pursue the case against landy
@@adamvaughn7227 And none of Carl's legal battle to save Brian from Dr. Landy was depicted in the movie.
I sort of feel like Melinda has somewhat forced Brian outside of his comfort zone with the various concerts he's done post-Landy
To put it simply - Eugene Landy was an opportunist.
LANDY'S FACE KILLS ME EVERY TIME
👍😂😂😂🤣😂😂😂
I've heard it before, but I have to say it. Eugene Landy makes Mike Love look good in comparison.
What did Mike love do to Brian? Rip him off?
@Ace yeah and Mike could sing and be a front man but when you learn about Brian and the actual backbone of The Beach Boys Mike looks fake.
Mike was just hotheaded and competitive, but he loves Brian. They are cousins.
Spacker
@@virginiaekblom3312 everyone thinks that Brian and Mike hate each other except for Brian and Mike.
I’m going thru the staying in bed thing myself rn, I’ve been very depressed and sometimes it feels like it’s really just me struggling, seeing this helped me out a lot, knowing someone so famous and popular had struggles also!!! It’s a very sad story about Brian I hope he’s ina better place!!! And I also think this gave me some motivation not stay in bed!
Some of us have had struggles. Hope you are doing fine these days. Any changes?
Been there, got through it, once you go that low, you never want to go back...hope all is good now.
Hope you're ok now
You got this dude. Life is hard but that’s part of what makes it beautiful. Being able to experience entire spectrum of the human emotions is something to be valued. Just remember that this crippling depression is all part of the human experience. Hope you’re doing okay these days. We’d love an update!
brian is too pure for this world
No real basis for it, but i always thought, or perhaps would like to think, that Landy only got away with it because Dennis was gone...
Dennis would have beat the life out of Landy. He was very protective of Brian
@@frankmcgarry3155 Lol he beat the hell out of Charles Manson he probably would have killed Landy with his bare hands.
@@declanrex9435 he was still afraid of Charlie, not a knock on Dennis. He did beat him up and he deserved it too.
Landy is now dead
Woohoo!
Rot in Hell asshole !
That's as NICE as l can put it😬
good
2020 and the whole world is under Mr Landy's program
@@johnnyguitar7921 that's for dayum sure🤡🌍
Gas lighting to the extreme
The therapist legit kicked Brian out of his own home and into a rental. If I was his daughter I’d be worried the therapist was trying to kill my dad to get his shit!
That high pitched noise- well to vhs folks vintage, makes me nostalgic, small price to pay for this content.
damn this sucks... eugene landy is evil af
So tragic. My heart goes out to Brian. I hope Landy died in horrible pain.
I Know 'What you Mean', but 'Don't' Wish 'Bad Things' on people, if Only cos it's 'Bad for you'r Soul. But what a 'Rat Bag' he was' eh ? Oh' You Got 'Me Started Now, ha.
alan judd it’s only bad for your soul to wish bad things upon innocent people. This guy deserves the worst
Benjamin the great spiritual philosophers would disagree. Think I'll go with them on that one. "Love thy enemy"
This made me feel sick.
5:48 when brian looks up after saying 'absolutely' in response to the question if landy saved his life (to his team behind the cameras?- his body language immediately pans to the side) it's almost as if his eyes say "well, did he? i don't think so but whatever i'll just say that" proof that the mental chains of landy's "therapy" are still echoing in brians head?... i dont blame him for being torn!!! you are fucking amazing brian
The money theft is real.
Nevertheless, He probably saved Brian.
Eugene Landy was a really awful man.
Yes he was, extremely dangerous person. The worst.
Was talking to someone in the comments of another video who said he saved Brian's life. That person is really delusional. He screwed his life up.
@@LucidDream I don’t think he completely screwed it’s up. It’s undeniable that Eugene pulled him out of the dark place that Brian was in. He was a scumbag and a real manipulator, but he did help Brian.
@@mozartfan67 It is true that Brian needed someone to come in and forcefully shake up his life, “snap him out of it” as they say.
Unfortunately the “shake up” Landy provided was hyper-controlling psychologically manipulative round-the-clock abuse. And there’s no excuse in the entire world for that.
It's sad to see Brian like this, Eugene truly did brainwash him
this is heartbreaking stuff
This is crazy. It's not the job of the therapist or caretaker to "change the enviornment", it's to give the patient the tools necessary to "change the enviornment." This guy is a sociopath.
He was brainwashed by that guy
Eugene Landy: putting the "pyscho" into "psychotherapist"
or putting the "rapist" in psychotherapist... he was "psycho the rapist"...
I’m so Thankful that He found true Love in Melinda❤️❤️🙏🏽
Sadly, unethical control freaks like this are all over the place. This one had a medical degree, but most go into politics or education.
So true
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Media industry!
He did NOT have a medical degree. He was a psychologist, not a psychiatrist. He had nothing to do with medicine.
Around 1985, I'm sitting alone in my small rental by Gronola State (Sonoma State)
Then, my housemate showed up.
He was about 500 miles south at Santa Monica. My housemate wanted to get back to this land called Sonoma. But he was helping to watch Brian Wilson 24/7.
No problem, he brought Brian along.
landy reminds me of colonel parker. elvis's manager
Eugene Landy died in 2006.
Beachy Keen R.I.P.! Rot in pieces!!!!
Hahahaha
Good
New face in hell
Great news.
On a lighter note, that "Brian Wilson- after" photo lol 5:40
15:56 he just did not know what to say
Love and Mercy
So sad this vulture fed off and drained a musical genius for so long. A true evil man.
Probably one of the only time Mike Love was right.
Great video
So sad to know how all those people just took adventage from this man including Murry leaving the poor man with all those psychological problems, happy to know Brian is still alive
Speaking of 24 hour care..
Around 1985, my Sonoma College roomate must have been one of the helpers. My roomate needed to watch Brian Wilson 24 hours. He also wanted to get back 400 miles to our house in Sonoma County from Los Angeles..
Solution solved.. He had Mr. Wilson ride along.
That's how Brian Wilson came to my front yard.
no way
I think that may have been me, or Alan C. And we also took Brian on to campus and he played a piano in the dorm coffee shop. I am not sure anyone walking by knew it was him! The whole Dr. Landy thing was a long, complicated, story...
giggleherz It's something... Sharing a certain memory from around 1984 And someone on the internet extends and validates it. It takes me back to 1984.... It takes me forward to the book 1984.
Amazing how much talent one can have with a fucked up life like his. Sry for the language but this here is a true genius. 1 in a million.
This is so interesting. Does anybody has more information on where this report comes from ? Its date of publishing ? The news channel which produced it ? Thanks in advance everyone.
After all, it is so sad that people and situations take advantage in the bad way of such a great artist. I just hope Brian will live still many many years, and that he can be creative until his last day ! He's such a lovely cuddly bear , a lovely man , making such a beautifull music all the time (from the 60's until now). At the same time, i'm so glad that he's been honored at many occasions, such as in Kennedy Center , and also by lots of his collegues, Elton John etc , and that Brian has got the occasion to meet Paul McCartney. Great ! All the best Brian, with lots of love and respect from Belgium ! Your music still makes me cry from joy. I'm also a musician, i've seen hours and hours of RUclips videos and i learned a lot of you. Patrick - born 1960.
0:18 I burned my brain out, my brain got burned out
Had Dr. Landy been able to maintain more of a professional distance he would have been hailed for his professional skills. But tv shows like this one as well the Brian Wilson bio pic show that Dr. Landy was too involved.
how to expose a liar/psychopath
10:38
watch closely his body language
I heard say one of Landy's patients accused him of rape she didn't say whether the patient was male or female, another thing I noticed is that in alot of these pictures Landy seems to be awfully touchy feely with Brian, Landy had Brian under lock and key for almost 10 years, that's a long time for any man to be deprived of the society of women. I hope my suspicions are wrong, but it sure looks to me that Landy took advantage of Brian more than just financially. Any thoughts?
Landy unethically went far beyond the patient/doctor relationship, while brian did need extraordinary type treatment to cure his severe addictive behaviors, the 9 yrs. (not quite 10) with Landy was well beyond what he needed. If you're suggesting some kind of sexual relationship, I don't think so, while Brian did say he was bisexual in his first book, I still don't think Landy went there.
Also, Brian was not deprived of women, he dated women when he was with Landy but he was always under observation by Landy's handlers, ostensibly to make sure Brian didn't slip in his sobriety though obviously 9 yrs. of that was way too much. Landy really didn't want Brian to meet a woman that might take Brian away from him. Ultimately it did happen when Brian met Melinda, she was a strong caretaker type woman and Brian needed a strong figure like that in his life. Landy knew she was a threat and hated her, he tried to discourage the relationship but Brian was in more control than even he wanted to admit, when he decided to go with Melinda there was really nothing Landy could do.
But yeah, landy didn't just exploit Brian financially, he exploited him emotionally and creatively by working with him on his music. The intervention phase of treatment should have lasted maybe a year at the most and then support therapy a few more years maybe but Landy intertwined his life with Brian for his own selfish reasons. Landy was an ass, but he did save Brian's life and cured him of his addictive behaviors which set him on the road to a long healthy life, so I think I'll cut him some slack.
has anyone ever asked some of his other former celeb patients about him? on record? cuz i would love to hear what some of them say about him. Like Rob Reiner or that Brady girl
A lot of them have glowing reviews. . i know alice cooper liked him. of course alice cooper went on to get much worse after
Woah... i have had a moment when in such a vulnerable state, a good, decent human being mentored me in almost precisely the same way (minus the dieting which i was already doing. Never had weight issues ).
It did help me...it broke me down, to a point, no lower was emotionally, physically possible... which when you emerge, not dead [you are not going to die, but you may even often...feel.like you will. *YOU WON'T* ]
i was transformed, and rebuilt into a real man, complete with coping skills, and no real.fear left.
And nothing to lose, but time.
💥💥💥💛😎💛💥💥💥
0:32 Those kind of cool Landy mullets are coming back with a vengeance again in Sweden it´s like that.
In retrospect it seems frighteningly inevitable that he would eventually be portrayed by Paul Giamatti.
I want to see the Landy recordings that he did of Brian Wilson . Do they still exists?
The anonymous individual was Melinda
The ONE thing Brian was fearful of is exactly the parasite Landy was. A sad irony. How odd Brian has been more active & prolific since the passing of Landy....
At least Brian didn't have to undergo electroshock therapy like Lou Reed did!
Though having Murray and Landy in his life must have been almost as bad.
Who can say Landy didn't?
Norman mailer wrote the best book I ever read... The Executioner's Song
That guy is a monster.
Its all so sad😢
Landy acts like the record producers now
There's a nasty high pitch sound in this video. :-/
Omg 11:45-12:00 I feel you Brian
Why didn’t someone bring legal action against Landy during 8 years?
I think Landy did do Brian some good. Obviously he lost a ton of weight and got him off drugs. I'm sure
Well, anyone going to a concentration camp will lose weight and get off drugs. Read about what happened, and you will probably change your mind.
Because Brian was an adult and chose to stay with Landy. However, Landy did use his influence as a professional therapist to influence Brian, which was unethical. I have read both of Brian's biographies and my takeaway is that Brian was complicit with Landy's unethical control methods but Landy was the professional and it was his responsibility to not let a patient/doctor relationship go past a certain point. So he was the one in the wrong and bore responsibility. But Brian was deeply in addictive behaviors and difficult to treat, Landy's methods did not only clean him up and get him into shape but permanently got him out of his addiction patterns. Did not give him a right to exploit Brian, but he did save his life and set him on the road to a long productive life when by all rights, he should have OD's in the 80's.
Also, one thing people don't realize is that legal action was taken against Landy but it wasn't until Brian decided to disassociate with him that happened. And that happened when Brian met Melinda. She was a strong caretaker type woman with whom Brian was able to reallocate his need for a strong figure in his life. Brian had dated other women when he was with Landy but none of them were like Melinda and Landy hated her, he knew she was going to take Brian away, which she did. But it was an appropriate relationship and she's been very good for him.
@@geoycs I have been a student of World War 2, and I've read about the death camps set up by Germany under the Hitler regime.
There's a little bit of good in the worst of things and a little bit of bad in the best of things. TYG Brian Lives. Saw him at The Fabulous Forum summer 2022 first row. Miraculous! ☀️🌺🌴🌊 Mahalo ke akua. In the same manner reading a menu will not satisfy hunger, neither can dedicating life force energy to evaluating people places and things replace getting busy enjoying them. Poor Richard's Almanac said something along the line of: Any fool can criticize and complain - and most of them do.
15:47 stumped him
11:52 the best part
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Guys...Maybe you can help me out. I am doing a Biology paper on parasites for school. The first thing I did was look up the definition in the dictionary. But there was no definition...Just a big picture of this guy...Hmmmmmm.......
My heart :( That fucking sob
Wow.........what a evil person Landy was....and poor Brian Wilson!
What year is this!??
I hate it when they don't put that up....
1991
Landy and his heavy psychotropics and antipsychotics probably did most of the damage to Brian
Just had a nightmarish interpretation of Mike Loves continung inner monologue after his statement at 6.17min:
"I think Landy thinks that Brian is the goose who laid the golden egg..... but really it was me....*chuckles*. Landy you got the wrong man, tihihihi, come and get me, tihihihihi..."
Did Landy ever have a consequence?
Britney Spears the same with her father.
i just ..how did the school not help brian when his dad beat him. there must have been marks on his body and the neighbors must have heard his dad beating the kids. the good old days were not so good. the doctor assaulted a patient and no charges against him. and what the hell his family couldnt talk to him or come to the house for 9 years...the family is just as screwed up as any of this story. poor thing is so sweet and everyone left him to the wolves. i would go hide in my bed too . not one person was held responsible for the torture of brian.
back in those days corporal punishment was looked the other way many times, sadly
@@JustinEdwords
The problem wasn't corporal punishment. It was that it was excessive and often used as form.of hazing for standing up against bullies
I hear back in the good old days that school bullying was endorsed by adults.
Kids could get away with almost killing their peers from beat downs or swirlies.
Amd adults still think bullying is just harmless cartoon physics.
Landry did get his weight down the only thing he did for him
BRIAN did that!
By drugs and starvation.
To try and say Mike Love is Brian’s “Co-writer” is ridiculous.
But he is…
@@JustinK6664 Mike love songs were Basically Chuck Berry songs
Wonder what Brian saw outside the window.
Why are people hating on mike love?
Mike Love' Oh' he Was an ''Ego'ist' or''Common Garden ''Big Head. You Wouldn't Like him, and He Already hates You.,,, ask almost anyone that! 'probably. 'if you Like.
He didn't get Brian's genius and just wanted to make pop shit.
@@c.lv.8623 thick, received-opinion bullshit
Interesting they would agree to talk to Sawyer
I feel sorry for Brian, although he was very self indulgent in the early days re drug use, obviously an amazing talent, love his music ❤️
It’s honestly sad how blatantly obvious it was Brain was being abused, even in that interview he seems partially catatonic and unable to string two thoughts together. Landy stating that the interviewers points about him negotiating business ventures with brian in his 1894 contract and him exploiting Brain are “valid” just enrages me. Even as little as brain not wanting to know how much he pays Landy each year yet still maintaining that Landy is what’s best for him shows a man in denial but has, who he feels, no one else to turn too. Honestly sad that this was allowed to air, it’s good that it exposed Landy’s abuse but at the same time this was DURING the abuse
Landy looks like tim Allen
The last three minutes are insane to watch. This guy is so transparently evil holy shit
Brian is not evil
Landy went to Oklahoma University while Jolly West was there
Brian Wilson talks about psychopath Eugene Landy
This is soooo fucked that it was only like 10/15 years ago?! It was happening so blatantly, how was there now more intervention
this was around the early / mid 80’s so it was around 35 years ago
According to Wilson, Landy saved his life. How much is a life worth?
Felt like wormtongue on King Theoden...
I just lost so much hatred for mike love
Landy's body language is not that of a truthful person.
It is a corporate interest behind someone like Landy. Landy is a probable victim in the circumstance as well
I guess he figured I saved this guy, because of that theirs millions of dollars now and I should get some of that.