@@pageribe2399 Perhaps, but that was what was happening then en mass, and I doubt that most people who tried, or used drugs were trying to impose a loss of their minds or health or capabilities upon themselves...
@@pageribe2399 He also had schizoaffective disorder which went undiagnosed for years, a physically and emotionally abusive father, and then Eugene Landy messed him up even more years later though he did get Brian back in good health physically. Mentally was another story.
Exactly. He always struck me as cocky and probably a smart-a**. He was the only one that gave off those vibes to me. Couldn't bring myself to like him.
Mike Love gets a satisfying chunk of cash from Brian (Mike miraculously sprang back from his early-‘80s bankruptcy), but nobody will ever choose him for the Kennedy Center Honors or an all-star tribute.
Here we go again. Brian and Mike needed each other in order to be successful. Mike wrote the lyrics and sang lead on many of those early hits that gave Brian the freedom to then go on and express himself more in '66-'67. Brian needed Mike's commercial input in order to be successful up until that point. You've got to give credit where it's due.
The problem with Mike, in Brian's eyes, is he couldn't buy his respect like he could Eugene Landy's. Brian didn't record Kokomo with them because Landy wanted to produce it and get royalties. The band rightfully told both of them to get lost.
Well, Brian’s solo career pretty much sucked and when I saw him live it was mediocre at best. Oh yeah, that’s a concert. I was at the Beach boys guy have one of the big fan clubs you guys probably worship ask them about the unreleased version of til I die which is played on LA radio. And he didn’t even know what I was talking about and he’s like a fan club big time boy poser beach boys fan like all of you.
I know it right. It's totally stupid to the point that I question whether or not he's insane or something. Look at all the great songs Brian's written and his voice is so awesome which is something I don't hear mentioned that often. I don't know whether it's a falsetto or just his regular voice but it's the coolest voice in the band I think. He is the Beach Boys. One of the greatest songwriters that ever lived for certain.
Yep, and a drugged out looney as so many geniuses are. You would never hear of any them if someone sober wasn't trying to make a buck from them/for them. Capitalism ain't all bad folks.
what of it, mike love's voice was distinctive and important as well, it wouldnt be the same without him, which is why statements such as yours are irritating.
@@CircumlunarFeasibility The Beach Boys wouldn't have been the group they were without the combination of the Wilson brothers, Mike Love, Al Jardine and maybe most importantly Milton Wilson. The combination worked. All equally important.
@@Kanezilla66 The original Beach Boys were not all Brian Wilson. Mike Love wrote all the lyrics to the early hits, sang lead vocal and did great bass vocals. Carl did great harmonies and lead vocals and guitar work. Dennis was a great drummer and sang beautiful harmonies. David Marks did the guitar and harmonies on the first 4 albums and all their early hits. He also sang harmony. And Al Jardine sang lead vocal and harmony and played rhythm guitar. Brian wouldn't have had a Beach Boy group if it weren't for all those people I mentioned above.
I don't recall Sir Paul saying anything about Mike Love. Cousin Mike was in the mix simply because he was cousin Mike. Without Brian Wilson, there never would have been a Beach Boys. Mike Love fronted The Pendletons, and then just simply came along for the ride. He was a thorn in Brian's side. Brian was too nice of a guy and tolerated Mike for way too long. They all broke his heart for Smile, and nothing was ever the same after it. Brothers stick together, cousins not so much. Team Wilson all day long.
I saw the original Beach Boys in the 70s with Brian, Carl, and Dennis. I would never go to see the Mike Love circus today. As Brian once said, if not for him, Mike Love would still be pumping gas.
Mike Love is a jerk. Brian was the genius. Love has delusions of grandeur that he was the genius. People need to rain on his charade and let him know we all KNOW who was the genius. We all KNOW who hated and killed SMILE. We all know who tries to take total credit for Good Vibrations....... Brian is it. Love would be a broke alcoholic high school coach had it not been for Brian.
Love was all about how Kokomo went to No. 1 without Brian. Yeah, but look at all the people who had to work on it. Brian did it himself with a single lyricist.
Brian Wilson is a genius who McCartney credits as being a catalyst for Sgt. Pepper after he heard the songs, arrangements and creativity of 'Pet Sounds' and felt was a watershed moment of creativity, writing, musical and technological genius. Watch the Hall of Fame Inauguration and you'll see and understand what an egocentric nobody giant asshole Love was, is and forever will be who wasn't worthy to make coffee for Brian Wilson let alone be in the same studio.
@@thekitowlAnd Rubber Soul was partly inspired by The Beach Boys Today! album and the Summer Days (and Summer Nights!!) album. The fact of the matter is that two absolute music giants- The Beach Boys and The Beatles- stood on each other's shoulders to see further.
Problem is Pet Sounds was a flop when it was released, and Mike Love was proven to be correct in not changing so much. Only later was Pet Sounds worshipped like it is now.
@@doctordetroit4339 Pet Sounds was not a flop; it might not have sold as well as their previous albums ,but it did reach number 10 on the Billboard Chart and had 2 Top 40, one top ten and one top five singles. Brian did expect a better response from the audiences in terms of album sales,but they had much to do with how Capitol promoted the album( or not promoted), even releasing a Best Of collection less than two months after the release of Pet Sounds. In the UK, however, where the album was plugged by EMI, the album was huge, hitting number 2 and helping the Beach Boys become the best selling band across the pond for the last quarter of 1966, even outselling The Beatles, something no band had achieved since 1963. Moreover, the band was voted best world vocal group 1966-1967 by the New Musical Express, even outranking the Fab Four, and Pet Sounds had a lot to do with it.I do agree, however, that the album experienced a major rediscovery in the early 90s, initially by indie artists and their crowd and the alternative media, until the mainstream media started talking about it, which, along with the massification of the Internet, helped it make popular with mainstream audiences, notably among the Gen X, Millenials and Gen Z cohort, giving it the recognition the Baby Boomers maybe did not give( at least not the one the album deserved) Stateside
I interviewed Mike Love once. I was a big fan of the band. Not so much after the interview. He was very arrogant & clearly thought he was better than everyone else. The show & interview was on my 30th birthday.
@@Thomasmemoryscentral no, just him being around most of my childhood//early adulthood. Dennis Wilson lived across a dry creek from us, Brian bought the house I grew up in (and gave it to his charlatan shrink).
@@Sammyandbobsdad Thats awesome you lived neared some of the Beach Boys and a shame Brian's flake of a shrink acquired your old childhood home. Is it still around?
How can you not love Brian Wilson example right in this video. He used the f word and he humbly replaced with messed up. So very raw and real he is. I think that is what is so beautiful and unique in a very cold hard world i known as the music industry! . I would love to see them collaborate again God only knows....
This is a fantastic piece of work. You’ve got so much in to 17.5 minutes! I learned more from this than the recent official Disney puff piece. One for another video, but I’d love some facts around the Dennis Wilson/Shawn Marie Love controversy
When my girlfriends and I saw The Beach Boys, in the early 70’s, Mike Love was so drunk or high on drugs, he kept almost falling off the stage but we 3 teenagers held him up, through the whole concert. They were touring their latest album “Holland”. Mike love was an a**hole to me and my girlfriends. I have thought he was jerk.
Bronze no more and RS than anyone else I mean he hasn’t done anything good since 1971 S. he’s that Greetham why do we not have these decades long is awesome material. We don’t because it all sucks.
@@martinkerry1239 Easy, bud. All the works of mankind crumble over time and are forgotten. Shelly had a poem that famously treated that addressed that subject, if I remember correctly.
Don’t forget: Mike Love FIRED Al Jardine, David Marks AND Brian Wilson from The Beach Boys…but not Bruce Johnston! Who fires the guy who FORMED the band???
Who fires the guy who formed the band? The guy that is responsible for keeping the band on the road and making a profit - a share of which goes to Brian Wilson. The Beach Boys have to play dmsller venues than before.
He didn't it was a puff piece. It wasn't true. They were still talking at the time. Brian's wife was the reason Brian left. No more tours for Wilson she stated. Stop beliving everything on the internet. My sources are people close to Brian as well as Mike's autobigraphy.
In addition to The Beach Boys and The Honeys, Brian was writing and producing records for Jan and Dean. Mike Love had a knack for making lyrics fit and rhyme. Brian has a gift for composing wonderful music. I am clearly on Team Brian. Mike has never wanted to do anything but the oldies. Brian had a vision to change popular music. Mike has produced one group album, the turgid Summer In Paradise.
Love has a knack for changing a couple words and claiming songwriting royalties. He's a talentless hack. Name ONE Mike love solo album anyone gives a shit about.
@@thomaspick4123 while I admit that I do like Sumahama , Mike is generally not good at writing melodies. Very amateur level stuff. He would never be successful as a stand alone song writer.
Mike Love’s lyrics are full of taunting, braggadocio, and petty chauvinism (in the original sense). Mike Love’s lyrics are the reason I hated The Beach Boys until I discovered Pet Sounds.
The problem I have is that people too easily accept that Mike wrote all the lyrics to dozens of the early songs. He didn’t have the kind of ability to write all of them and Brian knew this and used many different lyricists. Love’s contributions were to take finished songs and change verses that were already there or other times co-writing along side Brian. He extremely overstates his contributions for sure.
Yes, Brian used Gary Usher, on many of the 1964 - '65 hits. Mike Love contributed some lyrics to some of the songs, but not the vast majority of them at all.
Not true at all. The band played on the vast majority of their hits, including the live versions. Moreover, even if what you've said were true, given the fact they were a vocal group, on top of being a rock/pop group, it wouldn't make much sense to downplay the "singing their parts afterwards" argument, after all, a lot of their greatness has to do with their unsurpassed vocal harmonies.
@@chasepop well that's not true either. This wrecking crew sycophantism has to stop. A quick check on hits done by just the Boys: Surfin', Surfin' Safari, Surfin' USA, Surfer Girl, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe, I Get Around, When I Grow Up to Be a Man, I Can Hear Music, looks like they did pretty good on their own.
Brian is the Lennon-McCartney of the US. But genius often breeds psychosis. Love was an integral part of their success...he deserves some props.....Brian was the main creator and visionary....but he didn't do it alone. Just like the Beatles had Ringo and George.......Brian had his brothers and cousin. Those harmonies........wow. And it should be remembered that Pet Sounds was not initially successful, only later did it get the recognition it deserved.
@@doctordetroit4339 actually Pet sounds had 3 giant hits on it... God only knows; wouldn't it be nice, sloop John B... It's sold less than typical beach boys albums which were loaded with hits... But if sergeant peppers had come out first... It probably would've set the table for an album. Buying public to consume what pet sounds was... It was a little different than most Beachboys. Albums or any other album that came before it. But it's still sold well, Even if not as much as the previous albums did.
@@karijohartmann2649 It sold well....and Pet Sounds probably has influenced more artists than almost any album....but it was a flop (by Beach Boy standards) when it first came out. This actually caused a ton of problems as Mike Love did not want to change the formula. So who appeared to be initially correct? Who was proven to be correct? Both were.
Mike Love is a singer, an average singer at best, singers are a dime a dozen. Without the writers and creators like, Brian, the rest is scales and tuning instruments
Never cared for Mike Love’s voice, and for a group that’s main focus is on vocals and vocal harmonies makes a lot of their stuff flawed to me, especially when he is on lead. He also favored the trite high school pop lyrics which didn’t age well.
BTW.: 3:25 The recluse- and coke-persiod was in the early 70s and coke got to be a huge problem in the late 70s and early 80s for Brian. He did take amphetamines in the mid-60s (at least this is documented to have happened during the recording of Smile), but it was after Smile (1967), that the recluse period started to take shape and then to fully happen in the early 70s.
Good Vibrations should have shut up any question of Brian's foresight into their direction. Mike Love DID NOT take charge of the band after Brian withdrew! Love's revisionist 2016 autobiography and subsequent interviews are just that - revisionist BS. Carl was the one who stepped up and led the band in Brian's absences. Love continued to do his usual schtick, adding some banal lyrics, singing some leads, blending in the harmonies. Nothing more. It wasn't until Carl died in '98 we get the Mike Love Beach Boys. How'd that go? Landy was a double-edged sword. Saved Brian from death twice, first when he saved him, starting in 1975, then getting fired when he started to raise his already exhorbinant fees. Then having him brought back again in '82 when Brian was a total mess again. This time though, Landy was getting into everything - Executive Producer, songwriter credits, finagling himself into everything Brian had. If I remember correctly, he even had himself inserted into Brian's will as the main beneficiary. He also misdiagnosed Brian and gave him incorrect pharmaceuticals. Subsequent evaluation got Brian the right treatment. How much damage was done, we'll never know.
Yeah, Landy managed to get everywhere in Brian’s income. I knew about the producer credits and his will but I didn’t know he got writing credit. That’s crazy. That guy was a total scumbag
@@jonnytlong They were subsequently removed after Landy was removed from his life. If you have original copies of Brian's first solo record, you'll see Landy credited.
@@ms8596 it’s just so ridiculous. He’s already charging so much to treat Brian and then to do all the other stuff… it’s downright nuts. He has got to be the greediest person ever to live.
@@jonnytlong When the whole thing came down on Landy, thanks to Carl and Melinda, he lost his license and could no longer practice. He ended up in Hawaii and died in 2006 of lung cancer Landy was supposed to get 70% of Brian's estate with Landy's girlfriend and Brian's two daughters splitting the rest.
@@ms8596 I remember hearing he was in the will but 70% is just plain insanity. I wonder if his plan was eventually to maybe k!ll him somehow? Robbing Brian like that and trying to get his kid’s money… that’s way past being a scumbag
@@thekitowl Mike was Co Writer on "Good Vibrations" "Fun, Fun, Fun" "I Get Around" "Surfin' Safari" "Help Me Rhonda" "Do It Again" "Kokomo" "California Girls"
Well yeah, but at least Mike let Brian stay home and write tunes, while Mike kept the BBs flag flying; the other world-famous 60s drug-taking musical Brian (Jones) got kicked out of his own band.
“David Marks left the band due to conflicts with Murray Wilson & financial issues” the truth? Murray had three sons & a nephew in the band, & Murray would rarely pay David because he wasn’t family.
Brian Wilson, without Mike Love, would've become one of his generation's leading songwriters and record producers. Mike Love, without Brian Wilson, would've become the assistant manager at the local Meineke. Any questions? ..
No, Love kept the band going while Brian was gaining 300 pounds. He wrote a lot of timeless lyrics also. Brian was essential.....Love was important too. Pet Sounds was a bit of a flop when it first came out....only years later did it get props.
Brian Without Mike Love wouldn’t have been found or had any input in successful music as a songwriter or Producer. He would have done something else instead of music. Brian was a follower and not a leader. He never had the balls to do any thing on his own besides be a recluse and druggie. At least Love kept his composure and kept The Beach Boys going when Brian was urinating in the giant sand box in his house.
@@scoop1127 You do realize that Love was correct about not changing their formula? Only later was Pet Sounds given the credit it deserves. It was a FLOP initially and broke up the band.
Excellent. Very interesting and informative. So much happened over a short period of time, seemingly. I'm 72. I saw the Beach Boys about 1965 in Washington DC. Loved them. So long ago. Thank You
Very clear and well research video - except - Eugene Landy was a Psychologist, not a psychiatrist. There is a significant difference in the titles. He also took advantage of a weak Brian Wilson to his own advantage. Mike Love has his own psychiatric and personality issues, but the fact is, these two people really should get back together as the two who put the Beach Boys on the map. Mike has kept the band alive and positive in performances, yet Brian provides the authenticity of the Wilson composers. Carl is gone, as is Dennis. Work it forward with the good voices you still have going up from 1960. You have a huge legacy you can create from.
Mike Love doesn't have Brian's musical talent but it was their songwriting partnership that launched the Beach Boys. Not a Brian Wilson solo band. And at least Mike kept himself sober and able to lead the band in concerts while Brian was frying his destroyed brain on LSD and cocaine.
Oh come on fans, cut Mike some slack. Do you think it was easy dealing with Brian? He quit performing with the group at their peak. Had a nervous breakdown. He got heavily into drugs. He layed in bed for over a year. Mike had to put up with Eugene Landy who stopped everyone from seeing Brian. Brian didn't give Mike credit on the Beach Boy songs he wrote lyrics for or music like "I'm picking up good vibrations, she's giving me the excitations" Mike wrote that! Brian let his father sell all the rights to the songs without telling Mike. Brian may be a genius and great melody man but he was a mental case. Mike just wanted to play music. And Brian wanted to top the Beatles. Brian was the ego maniac that wanted a solo career, Mike wanted the Beach Boys and Mike is still out there at his age entertaining and making people feel good. And Brian is unfortunately in a wheel chair with dementia from all the drugs he did. Bless the both of them.
Can you actually recognise the difference between a genius and a lackey? And there are things in life that fuck your brain up more than drugs. I suspect that one of them is Mike Love.
@@martinkerry1239 Brian fucked himself up and he fucked up Mike's life, Dennis's life Carl's life and Al's life. Genius has nothing to do with it. You can be a genius and f-up as well.
First of all, it’s not “Mike wrote that” it’s Mike CLAIMS to have written that. Secondly, if Brian didn’t write a song to begin with, Mike would have nothing to write a background vocal to. Without Brian, we’d have Student Demonstration Time and Summer Of Love.
@@joegordon2915 your facts are wrong. Mike wrote all the lyrics for the early songs and some later songs. Murray Wilson didn't give him credit so Mike had to sue in court and he won and now his name appears with Brian's on all the songs and he gets the royalties he deserved. Brian has apologized and admits Mike wrote the lyrics. He also got screwed over when Murray sold the rights to the Beach Boy songs without telling Mike. When Brian finally told him what happened Mike wanted to punch Brain out but he was his cousin and he loved him and knew what abuse Brian had suffered from his father. So he didn't hit him. But he sued in court and won millions of dollars in back royalties. Mike wrote lyrics for Surfin USA, I Get Around, Help Me Rhonda, Fun Fun Fun, California Girls, Good Vibrations, Surfin Safari, All Summer Long, Be True To Your School, Catch A Wave, Dance, Dance, Dance, Darlin', Do It Again, Kokomo, Hawaii, Little Honda, Let Him Run Wild, Little St. Nick, The Man With All The Toys, Surfin', Wendy, When I Grow Up To Be A Man, The Warmth of the Sun, Wouldn't It Be Nice, You're So Good To Me and at least 30 more
17:07 Mark my words: We will never see Brian on stage again. Not in this shape and it will only get worse. As you mentioned, he has dementia and the death of his wife most likely did not help that. Not to be a downer, but I think we may hear sad news in the coming years.
Let's be honest here. Neither Brian's, nor Mike's, nor Bruce Johnston's singing voices are of any quality now. Al Jardine is the only one who sounds even close. In Brian's case, the dementia and adding the death of his wife certainly make it certain he's retired.
Yeah I agree. We should just be grateful for all the wonderful music he gave us and that he's still around, let alone performing on stage until recently.
Great Job Matt, as always I learn a bunch about the strange soundtrack I acquired as a youth....and I get to experience music of the time I missed. A balm to the misery of age...ahh were is my violin? I actually have one....learning "Sally Goodin" today...at a very basic level. Thank You!
I hear so much hate for Mike Love, but isn't it true that their biggest disputes resulted from Wilson's catastrophic drug use and Love's choice to live a healthier life through meditation? And isn't it also true that the band and Wilson himself would have been much better off if Brian had taken Mike's advice and not destroyed himself with drugs?
Brian and Mike are cousins. Complete opposites also. But still family. Brian was hypersensitive and insular. Mike outspoken, hamfisted and alpha. What did anyone expect to happen? Those who say Mike would not have been anything without Brian need to realize that Mike was just as much a part of the sound of the Beach Boys as Brian. Can anyone imagine those early hits without Mike on lead? Of course not. Its ok if people are different or dont like hanging out because of personality differences, but please do not think that Mike was not a very important role in The Beach Boys. Each Beach Boy was kind of a reflection of our different stereotypical personality types in High School. Dennis, the jock. Mike, the loudmouth, Brian the thinker/sensitivd type, Carl, the chubby teen with talent on the guitar/the balancer/the reasoner, Al the sidekick. The gang would not be a gang if one were missing. They defined teen kids through music and personality.
These sorts of rivalries go on in all groups. The Beach Boys were heavy into drug use which exacerbated their problems. Mike Love contributed a lot to the Beach Boys sound and his voice is unmistakable. Few people know that Barry and Robin Gibb did not get along and they were brothers.
Im my teens I had a little contact with Dennis and my sister handled the guys’ car loans at the bank. Ssuperficial surely, but it led to some affinity. It would seem Brian was the driving force. Mike Love jumped into the spotlight role, but never exhibited any real talent except for employing attorneys.
Very interesting video. But i was wondering... When did session drummer Hal Blaine get into the picture? It's my understanding that Dennis was the drummer on at least the very 1st album, and possibly the 2nd one? I've got people telling me that Dennis never recorded on any albums, but I don't think Hal or any of the Wrecking Crew guys got involved until a few years later. So my question is what year/album did Blaine first get involved?
The major issue I had with the 2024 doc was this emphasis on Mike Love’s lyrics, but let’s be clear: Regardless of whether Mike should’ve been credited or not, his level of contribution to the lyrics is still in many cases up for debate. Brian’s weakness was lyrics for sure, but he did often write his own lyrics as can be seen in the numerous songs following ‘Pet Sounds’ that were never in contention. What’s more, a lot of the later Beach Boys material credited to Brian and Mike had really awful, breathtakingly insipid lyrics; to be fair, some of Brian’s later songs had pretty questionable lyrics (especially on ‘Love You’). I don’t blame Mike Love in particular for the group’s troubles or failures overall anymore than Yoko Ono should be blamed for the Beatles’ breakup (It was inevitable before she came into the picture), but he certainly contributed to stunting the group’s potential as an artistic vehicle and making it into a crassly commercial one.
The Beatles broke up because George Harrison got 15% of his royalties out of the 15% Lennon McCartney got 12% so the reason the Beatles broke up is because George Harrison only got 3% out of his 15% of his royalties. How exact and precise is that for you?
This guy is out of his mind suggesting the group could get together again considering Brian’s health. Love probably wouldn’t mind sponging off him one more time though. Let Brian rest
Those insipid lyrics are why you have The Beach Boys bruh.....look up the songs Mike wrote....then TRY and imagine The Beach Boys without them. Pet Sounds was an initial commercial FLOP.
Even though I can't stand Mike Love sometimes, I'm happy that him and Brian have reconciled, they're both up there and age and they should be spending this time mending old wounds
Brian helped start the band and then had a decades-long freakout. Mike kept the band viable during that time. Maybe one has a broken psyche, maybe the other is a bit pushy. Either way, the Beach Boys wouldn't have had any relevance past the 70s without both of their involvement.
Finally a cogent comment.....Pet Sounds was a flop when it was released (vindicating Love to a degree). Only later did it get the respect it deserves. Brian was the McCartne-Lennon of the band.....Love was the George.....
I've never understood the Brian Sycophants who read songwriter credits Brian shared with Gary Usher, Roger Christian, Tony Asher or Bob Norberg and say sure!!! No problem!!! But they see Mike Love's name on a record label and it sends them into a cognitive dissonance fuelled apoplectic fury. Why is that? Why don't they open a counter court case to prove Mike didn't write the lyrics?
Brian Wilson is a Musical GENIUS, a very tortured genius with a host of his own challenges. Mike Love is an arrogant narcissist who thinks that he IS the central focus and anchor of the Beach Boys. He ISN'T!
That was a great watch, thank you. I would say that to compere The Beach Boys entanglements to the Rolling Stones is really wide of the mark. Bill Wyman never fell out with the Stones as far as I know
The Beach Boys would have been just as good without Mike Love. After all, he was only a backing vocalist. I don’t think he ever played any major instruments like guitar or keyboards. If he wasn’t in the band, you wouldn’t have noticed it!
Funny you mention that. Love’s ostensible instrument was the saxophone, but the footage I’ve seen shows him using it as a prop only. Every once and a while he would pick it up and emit a honk or two then set it back down again.
@ That being the case, I can’t understand why he didn’t use it more during recordings or live gigs, unless of course Brian Wilson didn’t want him to. He uses a tambourine quite a lot, but his main contribution seems to be his voice. They could have probably got by without him, but they obviously didn’t want to. He obviously had something more to offer the group during those years and these days it’s incomprehensible to imagine the Beach Boys without him!
I'll be the one to go against the grain and I appreciate Mike loves contributions especially lyrics. one thing is LOVE is not OCD BI POLAR and extremely difficult to work with.
Keep in mind that Brian Wilson is bipolar. He could change his mind tomorrow, and he and Mike love have reconciled before. Brian has always known Mike is egotistical. I think Brian recognizes and respects Mike’s work ethic. Brian voted in favor of Mike taking control of The Beach Boys name for touring purposes. Mike pays royalties to the other Beach Boys shareholders for the privilege. Mike Love is 83 ears old what percentage of men our still working at all at that age, much less touring the country?
Feeding his ego won’t let him stop. Same with jaggar, McCartney. Or it could be Dylan’s case where he “sold his soul and is Living up to his end of the bargain”. Or it could be both l
Manic depressive is most def real. I’ve seen people with extreme highs and extreme lows. Periods even Manic is a proper word to describe such events when they are “up” “bipolar” is a rename of this of screams PC
@joebrewer4529 Thanks, Dr. Run-on Sentence. But you might want to inform the APA of your conclusion. They mistakenly continue to include it in the DSM. Lol.
@@mach5895 Riley just because some circle professionals, prevent printed a professional book means it’s real. So even though I’ve been diagnosed with autism Asperger’s OCD, ADHD,ADD and Covid, it wasn’t rotting teeth in my mouth at the dentist refuse to take out and milk me for a lot of money for can you feel the autism through the screen then I’m exhibiting.
Mike Love still doesn’t realize how sensitive a person Brian Wilson truly is, and how hurt Brian Wilson’s feelings were when Pet Sounds was created and Mike Love trashed it publicly. For Mike Love to believe that The Beach Boys should have remained a surf band that only focused on the beach, cars, pretty girls, and adolescence was an insult to Brian’s and the group’s true creative outlook and depth. Plus, for Mike Love to claim that he truly cared about Brian when Brian was going through his troubled times, when in fact Mike Love has always maintained the “show must go on” attitude and only cares about dancing around onstage to draw attention to himself and nobody else (take a look at Mike Love and his band consisting of himself, Bruce Johnson, John Stamos, and a bunch of backup musicians and vocalists falsely calling themselves “The Beach Boys”). It’s fine that Mike Love loves recording and performing music live, and it’s great that he has taken such excellent care of himself physically. But he is in his own world and will always be inferior to Brian, and he knows it too.
Mike Love wrote lyrics for the following Beach Boy songs: Surfin USA, I Get Around, Help Me Rhonda, Fun Fun Fun, California Girls, Good Vibrations, Surfin Safari, All Summer Long, Be True To Your School, Catch A Wave, Dance, Dance, Dance, Darlin', Do It Again, Kokomo, Hawaii, Little Honda, Let Him Run Wild, Little St. Nick, The Man With All The Toys, Surfin', Wendy, When I Grow Up To Be A Man, The Warmth of the Sun, Wouldn't It Be Nice, You're So Good To Me and at least 30 more Originally he was not given credit by Murray Wilson and he had to sue in court. He won millions of dollars in back royalties owned him and his name now appears on all records along with Brian Wilson as Co writer on those songs.
Love Brian. No fan of Mike. But Mike had a point, like it or not. Brian was losing his mind after Pet Sounds. Even Brian would admit that. And the stuff about Love not getting credit or royalties for songs he had a part in writing--- that's true.
I know little sbout both guys. I know Brian was the main composer and song writer and a genius. Mike is the best singer. If both egos moved over would be better. Brian had drug and mental issues too. Either eay I'd say they are legends so they did just fine
Mike Love had no respect for Brian’s artistic talent that created the band’s sound and musical success. Without Brian, The Beach Boys would never have achieved their fame. Brain had drug issues as did so many abused and misguided artists. Brian Wilson cleaned his act and should be credited with what he has created. Love was and is a jerk.
@@ms8596 funny that you replied to this, because my comment was actually meant as a response to yours. I must have messed that up. So you’re saying we have Carl to thank for „Still Cruisin‘“?
@@nikokaapa That's a period when a lot of bad songs made albums. Starting definitely with MIU, LA, Keeping the Summer Alive, The Beach Boys. Still Cruisn' was supposed to be a compilation of songs that were in movies. The group had their factions always coming to a vote as to how to proceed on anything. It definitely was a band effort, because then it was expanded to include a new song by Brian and another new one by Al. Despite horrible reviews, it did go Certified Platinum. They spent that decade really trying to establish any kind of identity and ended up looking desperate. Carl still ran the band on the road.
Give Mike Love some credit, he did write a lot of the lyrics in Wilson's music during the beach boys days, and it seems like from recent interviews he really cares about Brian, despite their unstable relationship
I'm not disagreeing with you about Mike somewhat "caring about Brian". If you had seen "The Beach Boys An American Band" documentary, you can actually see Mike looking down on Brian, and even making fun of him, which is pathetic of Mike. Mike only wants Brian now, because they're not really "The Beach Boys" without him. But they also need to include Al Jardine, and David Marks in the lineup again....
Ask any major musicians in LA who is the biggest asshole in thet music scene. The answer will always be the same. Mike Love. A close second was David Crosby. RIP.
@@georgespencer3973 it really wasn’t an error I typed it one time in something else and it came up like this, so I thought I would rename him, my glove… Glad you enjoyed it….!
blend together brothers, cousins, & a couple of neighbor kids, then smother it all with a tyrannical father, & then mix thoroughly with a heavy dose of overwhelming fame, & what was once fun kid stuff became big (& serious) business...But then again, if it didn't all happen the way it all happened, we wouldn't have all been blessed with musical magical genius as well as decades of crazy drama & amazing stories
I love Brian, but I also recognize the distinctive sound of Mike Love and that the sound of the Beach Boys may never have reached their place without him, or Brian, or Carl, etc...
Between Murray, Brian and Dennis's nonsense, its a wonder Mike Love could put up with as much as he did. He and Al Jardine were grounded and if not for them guiding the band on tours, the Beach Boys would have completely disintegrated. The fact that Mike finally received compensation for co-writing so many of the songs Brian took credit for proves how talented he was. As far as a reunion, realize these guys are old and lucky to be walking, let alone singing. Brian Wilsons Smile was an absolute piece of crap and unless you are on drugs you can't listen to the whole thing without cringing. A brain on drugs is a terrible thing sadly.
One has to take sides with Brian Wilson... He wrote and produced it all while sacrificing himself doing it. Mike kept the show going on and got hybris on the way. Although without him it would have ended with Wilson dropping off.
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I had a wonderful conversation with Brian Wilson after a 1989/90 Heal the Bay benefit concert in Santa Monica, CA. He was an incredibly sweet guy.
wow respect at u MrGeek u actually spoke to brian wilson from the beach boys , jesus . sorry but dayum , thats ace bro !
I love Brian Wilson. He suffered so much, but what a beautiful mind, what a talent.
A lot of his suffering was self-imposed - DRUGS
@@pageribe2399 Perhaps, but that was what was happening then en mass, and I doubt that most people who tried, or used drugs were trying to impose a loss of their minds or health or capabilities upon themselves...
@@pageribe2399 He also had schizoaffective disorder which went undiagnosed for years, a physically and emotionally abusive father, and then Eugene Landy messed him up even more years later though he did get Brian back in good health physically. Mentally was another story.
Brian Wilson is a major talent. Mike Love is a major knob.
Major Knob ?......I wouldn't have promoted him to Corporal.
In the history of pop music, a history full of wack-jobs and foolishness, I can't think of anyone who has a worse reputation than Mike Love.
@@martinkerry1239 Bellend, actually.
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Give your head a shake. They were both each other's meal ticket.
Mike Love comes across as deeply unlikeable and arrogant.
Exactly. He always struck me as cocky and probably a smart-a**. He was the only one that gave off those vibes to me. Couldn't bring myself to like him.
@@WaferBrik Maybe true but we sure loved their music, didn't we?
@@justkeepingitreal2024Brian’s music not Mike Love
Actually, I think Mike Love came across fairly well; but then it didn’t show him dancing.
If you look up the Rock Hall of Fame honoring the Beach Boys Mike made a fool of himself.
So sad. So very sad. No one in the history of the planet earth likes Mike. ButMike has so much love for himself it makes up for it.
😂🤣😂 I couldn't have said it better.
Mike should thank God every day for Brian Wilson's talent
Man you got that right
I heard that Mike Love stuffed a "lucky sock" down the front of his obscenely tight trousers in 1964. And sixty years later........
Mike Love gets a satisfying chunk of cash from Brian (Mike miraculously sprang back from his early-‘80s bankruptcy), but nobody will ever choose him for the Kennedy Center Honors or an all-star tribute.
Too right
Here we go again. Brian and Mike needed each other in order to be successful. Mike wrote the lyrics and sang lead on many of those early hits that gave Brian the freedom to then go on and express himself more in '66-'67. Brian needed Mike's commercial input in order to be successful up until that point. You've got to give credit where it's due.
Brian outclassed Mike musically, instead of appreciating Brian,he resented him .
If he was half the business person he claims, Mike Love would have left the Wilsons to do what they did best.
Petty, resentful people just wear you out over time. It's not worth it.
@@rolandvillareal9337 Well-said!
Mike Love thinks he matters more than Brian. He is delusional for sure
The problem with Mike, in Brian's eyes, is he couldn't buy his respect like he could Eugene Landy's.
Brian didn't record Kokomo with them because Landy wanted to produce it and get royalties. The band rightfully told both of them to get lost.
Mike Love (what an ironic last name!!) is one of the biggest narcissists in rock history!!!😅
Read his book
Well, Brian’s solo career pretty much sucked and when I saw him live it was mediocre at best. Oh yeah, that’s a concert. I was at the Beach boys guy have one of the big fan clubs you guys probably worship ask them about the unreleased version of til I die which is played on LA radio. And he didn’t even know what I was talking about and he’s like a fan club big time boy poser beach boys fan like all of you.
I know it right. It's totally stupid to the point that I question whether or not he's insane or something. Look at all the great songs Brian's written and his voice is so awesome
which is something I don't hear mentioned that often. I don't know whether it's a falsetto or just his regular voice but it's the coolest voice in the band I think. He is the
Beach Boys. One of the greatest songwriters that ever lived for certain.
Brian is a kind soul & musical genius
Yep, and a drugged out looney as so many geniuses are. You would never hear of any them if someone sober wasn't trying to make a buck from them/for them. Capitalism ain't all bad folks.
Without Brian Wilson the beach Boys wouldn't have existed 😮
what of it, mike love's voice was distinctive and important as well, it wouldnt be the same without him, which is why statements such as yours are irritating.
@@CircumlunarFeasibility The Beach Boys wouldn't have been the group they were without the combination of the Wilson brothers, Mike Love, Al Jardine and maybe most importantly Milton Wilson. The combination worked. All equally important.
@@CircumlunarFeasibility there are many voices like Wilson's there was only one genius in that group.
@@Kanezilla66 The original Beach Boys were not all Brian Wilson. Mike Love wrote all the lyrics to the early hits, sang lead vocal and did great bass vocals. Carl did great harmonies and lead vocals and guitar work. Dennis was a great drummer and sang beautiful harmonies. David Marks did the guitar and harmonies on the first 4 albums and all their early hits. He also sang harmony. And Al Jardine sang lead vocal and harmony and played rhythm guitar. Brian wouldn't have had a Beach Boy group if it weren't for all those people I mentioned above.
And the earth is spherical
I don't care for ML either . Brian is spot on . Nobody loves Mike Love more than Mike Love .
Scientific tests have proven that even Mike Love can't stand to be in the same room with Mike Love.
I don't recall Sir Paul saying anything about Mike Love. Cousin Mike was in the mix simply because he was cousin Mike. Without Brian Wilson, there never would have been a Beach Boys. Mike Love fronted The Pendletons, and then just simply came along for the ride. He was a thorn in Brian's side. Brian was too nice of a guy and tolerated Mike for way too long. They all broke his heart for Smile, and nothing was ever the same after it. Brothers stick together, cousins not so much. Team Wilson all day long.
❤❤❤❤i love bb 4 ever
I love u gorgeous brian douglas wilson bb 4 ever
Never heard of The Pendaltons.
@kimkelly5512 the beach boys before they became the beach boys
Pendletones
I saw the original Beach Boys in the 70s with Brian, Carl, and Dennis. I would never go to see the Mike Love circus today. As Brian once said, if not for him, Mike Love would still be pumping gas.
He said ass, not gas.
@stepanbandera5206 actually, the direct quote was "Mike Love would still be pumping gas for a living." But yes, I'm sure ass too!
@@magneto7930
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Well said !!! Mike Love was always a hanger-on. And a complete nob.
Have you seen the songs wrote by Love? Do you realize the Berach Boys would not be known as that without those songs?
Mike Love is a jerk. Brian was the genius. Love has delusions of grandeur that he was the genius. People need to rain on his charade and let him know we all KNOW who was the genius. We all KNOW who hated and killed SMILE. We all know who tries to take total credit for Good Vibrations....... Brian is it. Love would be a broke alcoholic high school coach had it not been for Brian.
Love was all about how Kokomo went to No. 1 without Brian. Yeah, but look at all the people who had to work on it. Brian did it himself with a single lyricist.
Brian Wilson is a genius who McCartney credits as being a catalyst for Sgt. Pepper after he heard the songs, arrangements and creativity of 'Pet Sounds' and felt was a watershed moment of creativity, writing, musical and technological genius. Watch the Hall of Fame Inauguration and you'll see and understand what an egocentric nobody giant asshole Love was, is and forever will be who wasn't worthy to make coffee for Brian Wilson let alone be in the same studio.
Quite fitting that Rubber Soul inspired Pet sounds.
@@thekitowlAnd Rubber Soul was partly inspired by The Beach Boys Today! album and the Summer Days (and Summer Nights!!) album. The fact of the matter is that two absolute music giants- The Beach Boys and The Beatles- stood on each other's shoulders to see further.
Problem is Pet Sounds was a flop when it was released, and Mike Love was proven to be correct in not changing so much. Only later was Pet Sounds worshipped like it is now.
@@doctordetroit4339 Pet Sounds was not a flop; it might not have sold as well as their previous albums ,but it did reach number 10 on the Billboard Chart and had 2 Top 40, one top ten and one top five singles. Brian did expect a better response from the audiences in terms of album sales,but they had much to do with how Capitol promoted the album( or not promoted), even releasing a Best Of collection less than two months after the release of Pet Sounds. In the UK, however, where the album was plugged by EMI, the album was huge, hitting number 2 and helping the Beach Boys become the best selling band across the pond for the last quarter of 1966, even outselling The Beatles, something no band had achieved since 1963. Moreover, the band was voted best world vocal group 1966-1967 by the New Musical Express, even outranking the Fab Four, and Pet Sounds had a lot to do with it.I do agree, however, that the album experienced a major rediscovery in the early 90s, initially by indie artists and their crowd and the alternative media, until the mainstream media started talking about it, which, along with the massification of the Internet, helped it make popular with mainstream audiences, notably among the Gen X, Millenials and Gen Z cohort, giving it the recognition the Baby Boomers maybe did not give( at least not the one the album deserved) Stateside
I saw that Hall of Fame induction. Mike Love was drunk, arrogant and showed himself once again, to be a total a**hole.
I interviewed Mike Love once. I was a big fan of the band. Not so much after the interview. He was very arrogant & clearly thought he was better than everyone else. The show & interview was on my 30th birthday.
Thank you for sharing your experience. It confirms the impression Mike Love couldn't hide.
Ironically his last name is the opposite of what he exuded.
Look in the mirror, when pointing The finger of arrogance at others. " On your 30th Birthday".
@@David-f3k9x You’ve lost me. How is “On my thirtieth birthday” arrogant?
I picked up on Love’s personality watching him prance around on the stage at the National Mall, DC on July 4,1980.
@@David-f3k9xhahahahahaha😂
I can speak from personal experience, no one who has ever met Mike Love likes Mike Love.
Any recollection to the awkwardness of it? A meet and greet event?
@@Thomasmemoryscentral no, just him being around most of my childhood//early adulthood. Dennis Wilson lived across a dry creek from us, Brian bought the house I grew up in (and gave it to his charlatan shrink).
@@Sammyandbobsdad Thats awesome you lived neared some of the Beach Boys and a shame Brian's flake of a shrink acquired your old childhood home. Is it still around?
He bought me a taco.
Thats got to be untrue, since at least I women have liked him enough time marry him. Low standards.
How can you not love Brian Wilson example right in this video. He used the f word and he humbly replaced with messed up. So very raw and real he is. I think that is what is so beautiful and unique in a very cold hard world i known as the music industry! . I would love to see them collaborate again God only knows....
I wonder if Brian Wilson’s back hurts from all those years of carrying Mike Love.
I don’t know. Considering Mike was the lead singer on their early and mid 60’s hits. No Mike Love. No Beach Boys.
@@ledflaplin2001hardly
@@lesleymaner2851 Hardly what? Use your words!! Articulate a coherent and full sentence.
Regarding vocals, several Beach Boys could have done Mike's job.
@@ledflaplin2001Brian or Carl were just as good as lead vocalists and could easily do mikes parts if they wanted
MIke love would be a wal mart greeter today without Brian.
and not a very good one
Mike Love , the original Rebel without a Clue.
Exactly.
Agreed
A pompous Ass
This is a fantastic piece of work. You’ve got so much in to 17.5 minutes! I learned more from this than the recent official Disney puff piece.
One for another video, but I’d love some facts around the Dennis Wilson/Shawn Marie Love controversy
Thanks for the kind words. Interesting thought about a video on Dennis/Shawn... I'll keep that in mind.
When my girlfriends and I saw The Beach Boys, in the early 70’s, Mike Love was so drunk or high on drugs, he kept almost falling off the stage but we 3 teenagers held him up, through the whole concert. They were touring their latest album “Holland”. Mike love was an a**hole to me and my girlfriends. I have thought he was jerk.
I'm sure that was Dennis Wilson that was high or drunk.
Mike Love was into New Age teachings with extreme fasting.
@@neonfroot I know the difference between Mike Love and Dennis Wilson, it was Love…
Here is the main conflict between Mike and Brian: Mike is an entertainer, and Brian is an artist.
Mike is a wannabe entertainer, Brian is a great artist
Bronze no more and RS than anyone else I mean he hasn’t done anything good since 1971 S. he’s that Greetham why do we not have these decades long is awesome material. We don’t because it all sucks.
@@joebrewer4529 Huh?
Mike is a businessman. Nothng wrong with that until one begins to believe one is more than that.
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Every Brian Wilson has a Mike Love lurking nearby…
Who do you think John Lennon’s Mike Love was and you can’t use the easy answer.
Lol
Brian Wilson is lucky he had Mike Love to sing
Once Carl passed, with Dennis gone, it was over.
FU. Genius lasts forever. And you are ....?
@@martinkerry1239 Woah there, Seabiscuit! His genius endures. The Beach Boys were over.
@martinkerry1239
Man, this means way too much to you. Calm down, hothead.
@@martinkerry1239 Easy, bud. All the works of mankind crumble over time and are forgotten. Shelly had a poem that famously treated that addressed that subject, if I remember correctly.
You do ,it was called “Ozymandias”
Don’t forget: Mike Love FIRED Al Jardine, David Marks AND Brian Wilson from The Beach Boys…but not Bruce Johnston! Who fires the guy who FORMED the band???
Who fires the guy who formed the band? The guy that is responsible for keeping the band on the road and making a profit - a share of which goes to Brian Wilson. The Beach Boys have to play dmsller venues than before.
He didn't it was a puff piece. It wasn't true. They were still talking at the time. Brian's wife was the reason Brian left. No more tours for Wilson she stated. Stop beliving everything on the internet. My sources are people close to Brian as well as Mike's autobigraphy.
@@danerd8978 actually, I heard that on CNN, not the internet. So……can’t use that excuse.
@@scoop1127 if so, then why is Al Jardine not with Mike and Bruce, if he wasn’t fired?
@@stevehofer3482 if that’s the case, then all involved estates (Carl and Dennis) should also get a share.
In addition to The Beach Boys and The Honeys, Brian was writing and producing records for Jan and Dean. Mike Love had a knack for making lyrics fit and rhyme. Brian has a gift for composing wonderful music. I am clearly on Team Brian. Mike has never wanted to do anything but the oldies. Brian had a vision to change popular music. Mike has produced one group album, the turgid Summer In Paradise.
Love has a knack for changing a couple words and claiming songwriting royalties. He's a talentless hack. Name ONE Mike love solo album anyone gives a shit about.
Holland is a horrible album he didn’t do anything good past 1971
Besides writing lyrics, Mike could write melody. I like Sumahama.
@@thomaspick4123 while I admit that I do like Sumahama , Mike is generally not good at writing melodies. Very amateur level stuff. He would never be successful as a stand alone song writer.
Mike Love’s lyrics are full of taunting, braggadocio, and petty chauvinism (in the original sense). Mike Love’s lyrics are the reason I hated The Beach Boys until I discovered Pet Sounds.
Mike Love is the Steven Seagal of Music
Come on , nobody's that bad. 😅
now why would you insult Steven Seagal??😄
I agree , he could kick Brian’s butt
Seagal is a jerk
Nah, Mike is at least talented enough to sing well and write "Big Sur." Steven Seagal isn't even talented enough to pretend to act.
The problem I have is that people too easily accept that Mike wrote all the lyrics to dozens of the early songs. He didn’t have the kind of ability to write all of them and Brian knew this and used many different lyricists. Love’s contributions were to take finished songs and change verses that were already there or other times co-writing along side Brian. He extremely overstates his contributions for sure.
Yes, Brian used Gary Usher, on many of the 1964 - '65 hits. Mike Love contributed some lyrics to some of the songs, but not the vast majority of them at all.
Brian WAS the Beach Boys. He recorded all those hits with the Wrecking Crew. The rest of the band came in afterwards to sing their parts.
Not true at all. The band played on the vast majority of their hits, including the live versions. Moreover, even if what you've said were true, given the fact they were a vocal group, on top of being a rock/pop group, it wouldn't make much sense to downplay the "singing their parts afterwards" argument, after all, a lot of their greatness has to do with their unsurpassed vocal harmonies.
All the hits? Are you sure? Did you mean to say " Some of the hits between early 1965 and mid 1967"?
No, he meant to say their biggest hits. Alot like the Monkees in that way
@@chasepop Nope, the band played on the vast majority of their hits, including their biggest ones
@@chasepop well that's not true either. This wrecking crew sycophantism has to stop. A quick check on hits done by just the Boys: Surfin', Surfin' Safari, Surfin' USA, Surfer Girl, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe, I Get Around, When I Grow Up to Be a Man, I Can Hear Music, looks like they did pretty good on their own.
Brian is the Lennon-McCartney of the US. But genius often breeds psychosis.
Love was an integral part of their success...he deserves some props.....Brian was the main creator and visionary....but he didn't do it alone. Just like the Beatles had Ringo and George.......Brian had his brothers and cousin.
Those harmonies........wow. And it should be remembered that Pet Sounds was not initially successful, only later did it get the recognition it deserved.
None of which he has
Stop that nonsense. Nowhere close to Lennon-McCartney, Jagger-Richards, or Ray Davies for that matter. Nowhere close. Except in his drug addled brain.
@@doctordetroit4339 actually Pet sounds had 3 giant hits on it... God only knows; wouldn't it be nice, sloop John B... It's sold less than typical beach boys albums which were loaded with hits... But if sergeant peppers had come out first... It probably would've set the table for an album. Buying public to consume what pet sounds was... It was a little different than most Beachboys. Albums or any other album that came before it. But it's still sold well, Even if not as much as the previous albums did.
@@karijohartmann2649 It sold well....and Pet Sounds probably has influenced more artists than almost any album....but it was a flop (by Beach Boy standards) when it first came out. This actually caused a ton of problems as Mike Love did not want to change the formula. So who appeared to be initially correct? Who was proven to be correct? Both were.
Don’t insult them comparing to the bubblegum Beatles
Fantastic video! Thanks for posting. 👍
Mike Love is a tool. Definitely on Brians side here.
Enjoy Your Tribute Band ! Mike ! You should be ashamed of yourself! for your rant at the rock en roll hall of fame!
Mike Love is a singer, an average singer at best, singers are a dime a dozen. Without the writers and creators like, Brian, the rest is scales and tuning instruments
Think again, he has the best lines in catch a wave
Who wrote Kokomo and kept The Beach Boys relevant in the 80s?
Never cared for Mike Love’s voice, and for a group that’s main focus is on vocals and vocal harmonies makes a lot of their stuff flawed to me, especially when he is on lead.
He also favored the trite high school pop lyrics which didn’t age well.
Yeah, and a lot of Brian stuff didn’t age well either washer point Brian Wilson’s not that great
BTW.: 3:25 The recluse- and coke-persiod was in the early 70s and coke got to be a huge problem in the late 70s and early 80s for Brian. He did take amphetamines in the mid-60s (at least this is documented to have happened during the recording of Smile), but it was after Smile (1967), that the recluse period started to take shape and then to fully happen in the early 70s.
Sometimes the drugs work. Heard any Christian Rock ? Or JIMI HENDRIX ?!?!?!
@@martinkerry1239Hendrix died though
@@martinkerry1239Glass Harp 1970 - 1972. Phil Keaggy went solo in 1973, as a Christian rock artist.
Good Vibrations should have shut up any question of Brian's foresight into their direction.
Mike Love DID NOT take charge of the band after Brian withdrew! Love's revisionist 2016 autobiography and subsequent interviews are just that - revisionist BS. Carl was the one who stepped up and led the band in Brian's absences. Love continued to do his usual schtick, adding some banal lyrics, singing some leads, blending in the harmonies. Nothing more. It wasn't until Carl died in '98 we get the Mike Love Beach Boys. How'd that go?
Landy was a double-edged sword. Saved Brian from death twice, first when he saved him, starting in 1975, then getting fired when he started to raise his already exhorbinant fees. Then having him brought back again in '82 when Brian was a total mess again. This time though, Landy was getting into everything - Executive Producer, songwriter credits, finagling himself into everything Brian had. If I remember correctly, he even had himself inserted into Brian's will as the main beneficiary. He also misdiagnosed Brian and gave him incorrect pharmaceuticals. Subsequent evaluation got Brian the right treatment. How much damage was done, we'll never know.
Yeah, Landy managed to get everywhere in Brian’s income. I knew about the producer credits and his will but I didn’t know he got writing credit. That’s crazy. That guy was a total scumbag
@@jonnytlong They were subsequently removed after Landy was removed from his life. If you have original copies of Brian's first solo record, you'll see Landy credited.
@@ms8596 it’s just so ridiculous. He’s already charging so much to treat Brian and then to do all the other stuff… it’s downright nuts. He has got to be the greediest person ever to live.
@@jonnytlong When the whole thing came down on Landy, thanks to Carl and Melinda, he lost his license and could no longer practice. He ended up in Hawaii and died in 2006 of lung cancer
Landy was supposed to get 70% of Brian's estate with Landy's girlfriend and Brian's two daughters splitting the rest.
@@ms8596 I remember hearing he was in the will but 70% is just plain insanity. I wonder if his plan was eventually to maybe k!ll him somehow? Robbing Brian like that and trying to get his kid’s money… that’s way past being a scumbag
Love this🙏🏼❤️
Brian is the creative force. Love is just a business/salesman type, squeezing every dollar out of others work.
Begs the question, where are all the Mike Love penned smash hits.
@@thekitowl Mike was Co Writer on "Good Vibrations"
"Fun, Fun, Fun"
"I Get Around"
"Surfin' Safari"
"Help Me Rhonda"
"Do It Again"
"Kokomo"
"California Girls"
@@ledflaplin2001 so you don’t know then.
@@thekitowl are you blind or illiterate?
Well yeah, but at least Mike let Brian stay home and write tunes, while Mike kept the BBs flag flying; the other world-famous 60s drug-taking musical Brian (Jones) got kicked out of his own band.
Eugene Landy was NOT a Psychiatrist (M.D.) - he WAS a Psychologist - awarded a Doctor of Psychology degree from the University of Oklahoma
He was a parasite
Eugene Landy was a horrible human being manipulative and cruel
With emphasis on the PSYCHO part.
@bigbadbillb absolutely right Landy was a despicable man who ruined Brian Wilson life
“David Marks left the band due to conflicts with Murray Wilson & financial issues” the truth? Murray had three sons & a nephew in the band, & Murray would rarely pay David because he wasn’t family.
Brian Wilson, without Mike Love, would've become one of his generation's leading songwriters and record producers.
Mike Love, without Brian Wilson, would've become the assistant manager at the local Meineke.
Any questions?
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I Call BS. Love would never get that position. More like wal mart greeter required to register with the police every time he moves.
@@Mozart1220 ha
No, Love kept the band going while Brian was gaining 300 pounds. He wrote a lot of timeless lyrics also.
Brian was essential.....Love was important too.
Pet Sounds was a bit of a flop when it first came out....only years later did it get props.
Brian Without Mike Love wouldn’t have been found or had any input in successful music as a songwriter or Producer. He would have done something else instead of music. Brian was a follower and not a leader. He never had the balls to do any thing on his own besides be a recluse and druggie. At least Love kept his composure and kept The Beach Boys going when Brian was urinating in the giant sand box in his house.
@@scoop1127 You do realize that Love was correct about not changing their formula? Only later was Pet Sounds given the credit it deserves. It was a FLOP initially and broke up the band.
Team BRI, obviously.
Excellent. Very interesting and informative. So much happened over a short period of time, seemingly. I'm 72. I saw the Beach Boys about 1965 in Washington DC. Loved them. So long ago. Thank You
Very clear and well research video - except - Eugene Landy was a Psychologist, not a psychiatrist. There is a significant difference in the titles. He also took advantage of a weak Brian Wilson to his own advantage. Mike Love has his own psychiatric and personality issues, but the fact is, these two people really should get back together as the two who put the Beach Boys on the map. Mike has kept the band alive and positive in performances, yet Brian provides the authenticity of the Wilson composers. Carl is gone, as is Dennis. Work it forward with the good voices you still have going up from 1960. You have a huge legacy you can create from.
Mike Love doesn't have Brian's musical talent but it was their songwriting partnership that launched the Beach Boys. Not a Brian Wilson solo band. And at least Mike kept himself sober and able to lead the band in concerts while Brian was frying his destroyed brain on LSD and cocaine.
Yeah because no one ever has ever written great music on LSD.
Oh come on fans, cut Mike some slack. Do you think it was easy dealing with Brian? He quit performing with the group at their peak. Had a nervous breakdown. He got heavily into drugs. He layed in bed for over a year. Mike had to put up with Eugene Landy who stopped everyone from seeing Brian. Brian didn't give Mike credit on the Beach Boy songs he wrote lyrics for or music like "I'm picking up good vibrations, she's giving me the excitations" Mike wrote that! Brian let his father sell all the rights to the songs without telling Mike. Brian may be a genius and great melody man but he was a mental case. Mike just wanted to play music. And Brian wanted to top the Beatles. Brian was the ego maniac that wanted a solo career, Mike wanted the Beach Boys and Mike is still out there at his age entertaining and making people feel good. And Brian is unfortunately in a wheel chair with dementia from all the drugs he did. Bless the both of them.
Huh.
Then theyre both guilty of some messed up events in their lives. Mike just sadly happens to go a little further in his egocentric life
Can you actually recognise the difference between a genius and a lackey? And there are things in life that fuck your brain up more than drugs. I suspect that one of them is Mike Love.
@@martinkerry1239 Brian fucked himself up and he fucked up Mike's life, Dennis's life Carl's life and Al's life. Genius has nothing to do with it. You can be a genius and f-up as well.
First of all, it’s not “Mike wrote that” it’s Mike CLAIMS to have written that. Secondly, if Brian didn’t write a song to begin with, Mike would have nothing to write a background vocal to. Without Brian, we’d have Student Demonstration Time and Summer Of Love.
@@joegordon2915 your facts are wrong. Mike wrote all the lyrics for the early songs and some later songs. Murray Wilson didn't give him credit so Mike had to sue in court and he won and now his name appears with Brian's on all the songs and he gets the royalties he deserved. Brian has apologized and admits Mike wrote the lyrics. He also got screwed over when Murray sold the rights to the Beach Boy songs without telling Mike. When Brian finally told him what happened Mike wanted to punch Brain out but he was his cousin and he loved him and knew what abuse Brian had suffered from his father. So he didn't hit him. But he sued in court and won millions of dollars in back royalties. Mike wrote lyrics for Surfin USA, I Get Around, Help Me Rhonda, Fun Fun Fun, California Girls, Good Vibrations, Surfin Safari, All Summer Long, Be True To Your School, Catch A Wave, Dance, Dance, Dance, Darlin', Do It Again, Kokomo, Hawaii, Little Honda, Let Him Run Wild, Little St. Nick, The Man With All The Toys, Surfin', Wendy, When I Grow Up To Be A Man, The Warmth of the Sun, Wouldn't It Be Nice, You're So Good To Me and at least 30 more
17:07 Mark my words: We will never see Brian on stage again. Not in this shape and it will only get worse. As you mentioned, he has dementia and the death of his wife most likely did not help that. Not to be a downer, but I think we may hear sad news in the coming years.
Let's be honest here. Neither Brian's, nor Mike's, nor Bruce Johnston's singing voices are of any quality now. Al Jardine is the only one who sounds even close. In Brian's case, the dementia and adding the death of his wife certainly make it certain he's retired.
Pretty sure that's already been established and no marking of words is necessary.
Yeah I agree. We should just be grateful for all the wonderful music he gave us and that he's still around, let alone performing on stage until recently.
@@ms8596 Brian has nothing left to prove. Let him have some dignity.
@@Mozart1220 I've been giving Brian dignity for over 55 years.
Great Job Matt, as always I learn a bunch about the strange soundtrack I acquired as a youth....and I get to experience music of the time I missed. A balm to the misery of age...ahh were is my violin? I actually have one....learning "Sally Goodin" today...at a very basic level. Thank You!
I love the tale about Mike hearing the demos for pet sounds.to which he replied. Whats this crap😅😅
Mike Love didn't belong on the same stage as Brian Wilson.
I hear so much hate for Mike Love, but isn't it true that their biggest disputes resulted from Wilson's catastrophic drug use and Love's choice to live a healthier life through meditation? And isn't it also true that the band and Wilson himself would have been much better off if Brian had taken Mike's advice and not destroyed himself with drugs?
Brian and Mike are cousins. Complete opposites also. But still family. Brian was hypersensitive and insular. Mike outspoken, hamfisted and alpha.
What did anyone expect to happen?
Those who say Mike would not have been anything without Brian need to realize that Mike was just as much a part of the sound of the Beach Boys as Brian.
Can anyone imagine those early hits without Mike on lead?
Of course not.
Its ok if people are different or dont like hanging out because of personality differences, but please do not think that Mike was not a very important role in The Beach Boys.
Each Beach Boy was kind of a reflection of our different stereotypical personality types in High School. Dennis, the jock. Mike, the loudmouth, Brian the thinker/sensitivd type, Carl, the chubby teen with talent on the guitar/the balancer/the reasoner, Al the sidekick.
The gang would not be a gang if one were missing. They defined teen kids through music and personality.
The Beach Boys were only successful due to both Brian and Mike. Without Brian, there would be no music; without Mike, there would be no band to tour.
These sorts of rivalries go on in all groups. The Beach Boys were heavy into drug use which exacerbated their problems. Mike Love contributed a lot to the Beach Boys sound and his voice is unmistakable.
Few people know that Barry and Robin Gibb did not get along and they were brothers.
Im my teens I had a little contact with Dennis and my sister handled the guys’ car loans at the bank. Ssuperficial surely, but it led to some affinity. It would seem Brian was the driving force. Mike Love jumped into the spotlight role, but never exhibited any real talent except for employing attorneys.
Spilling the tea! 😅
I understand not liking Mike. To deny his contributions to The Beach Boys is pure ignorance.
Exactly correct
Great synopsis of a 60 year's career. Well done!!!!
This Brian's band. Period.
The “beach boys” and Brian both came to my area in 2020…you know who I saw. Al and blondie were there too. What a night.
Very interesting video. But i was wondering... When did session drummer Hal Blaine get into the picture? It's my understanding that Dennis was the drummer on at least the very 1st album, and possibly the 2nd one? I've got people telling me that Dennis never recorded on any albums, but I don't think Hal or any of the Wrecking Crew guys got involved until a few years later. So my question is what year/album did Blaine first get involved?
The major issue I had with the 2024 doc was this emphasis on Mike Love’s lyrics, but let’s be clear: Regardless of whether Mike should’ve been credited or not, his level of contribution to the lyrics is still in many cases up for debate. Brian’s weakness was lyrics for sure, but he did often write his own lyrics as can be seen in the numerous songs following ‘Pet Sounds’ that were never in contention. What’s more, a lot of the later Beach Boys material credited to Brian and Mike had really awful, breathtakingly insipid lyrics; to be fair, some of Brian’s later songs had pretty questionable lyrics (especially on ‘Love You’).
I don’t blame Mike Love in particular for the group’s troubles or failures overall anymore than Yoko Ono should be blamed for the Beatles’ breakup (It was inevitable before she came into the picture), but he certainly contributed to stunting the group’s potential as an artistic vehicle and making it into a crassly commercial one.
The Beatles broke up because George Harrison got 15% of his royalties out of the 15% Lennon McCartney got 12% so the reason the Beatles broke up is because George Harrison only got 3% out of his 15% of his royalties. How exact and precise is that for you?
@@joebrewer4529absolutely clueless
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Uh, neither precise nor exact, nor comprehensible. Lol.
This guy is out of his mind suggesting the group could get together again considering Brian’s health. Love probably wouldn’t mind sponging off him one more time though. Let Brian rest
Those insipid lyrics are why you have The Beach Boys bruh.....look up the songs Mike wrote....then TRY and imagine The Beach Boys without them.
Pet Sounds was an initial commercial FLOP.
Even though I can't stand Mike Love sometimes, I'm happy that him and Brian have reconciled, they're both up there and age and they should be spending this time mending old wounds
Brian helped start the band and then had a decades-long freakout.
Mike kept the band viable during that time.
Maybe one has a broken psyche, maybe the other is a bit pushy.
Either way, the Beach Boys wouldn't have had any relevance past the 70s without both of their involvement.
Of course. Also Mike Love wrote the lyrics to almost every single Beach boy hit. He sang on almost ever single song they recorded.
Finally a cogent comment.....Pet Sounds was a flop when it was released (vindicating Love to a degree).
Only later did it get the respect it deserves.
Brian was the McCartne-Lennon of the band.....Love was the George.....
I've never understood the Brian Sycophants who read songwriter credits Brian shared with Gary Usher, Roger Christian, Tony Asher or Bob Norberg and say sure!!! No problem!!! But they see Mike Love's name on a record label and it sends them into a cognitive dissonance fuelled apoplectic fury. Why is that? Why don't they open a counter court case to prove Mike didn't write the lyrics?
@@doctordetroit4339 If they kept with the teeny bopper stuff into the late 60s it probably would have flopped too.
Sadly most bands fight and break up.. Sad...
Mike Love = a boat anchor on Brian Wilson’s ankle.
Brian Wilson is a Musical GENIUS, a very tortured genius with a host of his own challenges.
Mike Love is an arrogant narcissist who thinks that he IS the central focus and anchor of the Beach Boys. He ISN'T!
He’s not tortured at all. He’s just an idiot.
Mike's real last name is, "HUNT"..... What a fuckin' punk.
What a hunt.
😂 "Mike Hunt" LOL!
That was a great watch, thank you. I would say that to compere The Beach Boys entanglements to the Rolling Stones is really wide of the mark. Bill Wyman never fell out with the Stones as far as I know
The Beach Boys would have been just as good without Mike Love. After all, he was only a backing vocalist. I don’t think he ever played any major instruments like guitar or keyboards. If he wasn’t in the band, you wouldn’t have noticed it!
Funny you mention that. Love’s ostensible instrument was the saxophone, but the footage I’ve seen shows him using it as a prop only. Every once and a while he would pick it up and emit a honk or two then set it back down again.
@ That being the case, I can’t understand why he didn’t use it more during recordings or live gigs, unless of course Brian Wilson didn’t want him to. He uses a tambourine quite a lot, but his main contribution seems to be his voice. They could have probably got by without him, but they obviously didn’t want to. He obviously had something more to offer the group during those years and these days it’s incomprehensible to imagine the Beach Boys without him!
I'll be the one to go against the grain and I appreciate Mike loves contributions especially lyrics. one thing is LOVE is not OCD BI POLAR and extremely difficult to work with.
A Real Beach Boys fan will always have huge respect and love for ALL the members.... each one made a big contribution to all those great records 😐❤️🩹
Brian Wilson is probably not easy to get along with, it's no secret that the guy is crazy.
Without Mike Love the Beach Boys don't get on the radio.
I'm totally on your SIDE, Brian, from Portugal
It always seemed to me that Mike Love was just the guy jumping into the picture
Mike Love was a good singer, songwriter, and he stood up to Murray Wilson. His dark side was being a career narcissist. Brian was Mike's meal ticket.
One of the great what ifs of the 69s; what if Brian had released Smile? Probably their (or Brian’s) best album.
Keep in mind that Brian Wilson is bipolar. He could change his mind tomorrow, and he and Mike love have reconciled before. Brian has always known Mike is egotistical. I think Brian recognizes and respects Mike’s work ethic. Brian voted in favor of Mike taking control of The Beach Boys name for touring purposes. Mike pays royalties to the other Beach Boys shareholders for the privilege. Mike Love is 83 ears old what percentage of men our still working at all at that age, much less touring the country?
He’s not bipolar there is no such thing
Feeding his ego won’t let him stop. Same with jaggar, McCartney. Or it could be Dylan’s case where he “sold his soul and is Living up to his end of the bargain”. Or it could be both l
Manic depressive is most def real. I’ve seen people with extreme highs and extreme lows. Periods even Manic is a proper word to describe such events when they are “up” “bipolar” is a rename of this of screams PC
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Thanks, Dr. Run-on Sentence. But you might want to inform the APA of your conclusion. They mistakenly continue to include it in the DSM. Lol.
@@mach5895 Riley just because some circle professionals, prevent printed a professional book means it’s real. So even though I’ve been diagnosed with autism Asperger’s OCD, ADHD,ADD and Covid, it wasn’t rotting teeth in my mouth at the dentist refuse to take out and milk me for a lot of money for can you feel the autism through the screen then I’m exhibiting.
Mike Love still doesn’t realize how sensitive a person Brian Wilson truly is, and how hurt Brian Wilson’s feelings were when Pet Sounds was created and Mike Love trashed it publicly. For Mike Love to believe that The Beach Boys should have remained a surf band that only focused on the beach, cars, pretty girls, and adolescence was an insult to Brian’s and the group’s true creative outlook and depth. Plus, for Mike Love to claim that he truly cared about Brian when Brian was going through his troubled times, when in fact Mike Love has always maintained the “show must go on” attitude and only cares about dancing around onstage to draw attention to himself and nobody else (take a look at Mike Love and his band consisting of himself, Bruce Johnson, John Stamos, and a bunch of backup musicians and vocalists falsely calling themselves “The Beach Boys”). It’s fine that Mike Love loves recording and performing music live, and it’s great that he has taken such excellent care of himself physically. But he is in his own world and will always be inferior to Brian, and he knows it too.
Mike Love wrote lyrics for the following Beach Boy songs: Surfin USA, I Get Around, Help Me Rhonda, Fun Fun Fun, California Girls, Good Vibrations, Surfin Safari, All Summer Long, Be True To Your School, Catch A Wave, Dance, Dance, Dance, Darlin', Do It Again, Kokomo, Hawaii, Little Honda, Let Him Run Wild, Little St. Nick, The Man With All The Toys, Surfin', Wendy, When I Grow Up To Be A Man, The Warmth of the Sun, Wouldn't It Be Nice, You're So Good To Me and at least 30 more
Originally he was not given credit by Murray Wilson and he had to sue in court. He won millions of dollars in back royalties owned him and his name now appears on all records along with Brian Wilson as Co writer on those songs.
Really? Wow I’m stunned if true.
@@bethweeks5943 Of course it's true, Google it. Mike may be an narcissistic ego maniac but he is very very talented.
Basically correct except Mike claimed co writing credits on a few songs that he did nothing more than add a word or two.
@@99somerville Just curious, Were you present when he and Brian were writing these songs? If not, how would you know what and how much he added?
@@lennon1252 Tony Asher was present, as well as others who have commented on Mike's lyrical input.
Mike would not even be known if it wasn't for the genius of Brian
Love Brian. No fan of Mike. But Mike had a point, like it or not. Brian was losing his mind after Pet Sounds. Even Brian would admit that. And the stuff about Love not getting credit or royalties for songs he had a part in writing--- that's true.
17:00. Not a chance of seeing Brian perform anymore.
It’s sad but true
I know little sbout both guys. I know Brian was the main composer and song writer and a genius. Mike is the best singer. If both egos moved over would be better. Brian had drug and mental issues too. Either eay I'd say they are legends so they did just fine
Mike Love had no respect for Brian’s artistic talent that created the band’s sound and musical success. Without Brian, The Beach Boys would never have achieved their fame. Brain had drug issues as did so many abused and misguided artists. Brian Wilson cleaned his act and should be credited with what he has created. Love was and is a jerk.
Mike definitely led the band in the 80‘s. And the albums showcase that as well. Carl almost/quasi left the band in the early 80s to do solo work.
@nikokaapa that was maybe '81-'82. When Carl came back, he resumed until cancer got him.
@@ms8596 funny that you replied to this, because my comment was actually meant as a response to yours. I must have messed that up. So you’re saying we have Carl to thank for „Still Cruisin‘“?
@@nikokaapa That's a period when a lot of bad songs made albums. Starting definitely with MIU, LA, Keeping the Summer Alive, The Beach Boys. Still Cruisn' was supposed to be a compilation of songs that were in movies. The group had their factions always coming to a vote as to how to proceed on anything. It definitely was a band effort, because then it was expanded to include a new song by Brian and another new one by Al. Despite horrible reviews, it did go Certified Platinum. They spent that decade really trying to establish any kind of identity and ended up looking desperate. Carl still ran the band on the road.
@@ms8596 interesting!
Beach Boys never came close to matching the success when Brian Wilson was a touring member of the group.
Give Mike Love some credit, he did write a lot of the lyrics in Wilson's music during the beach boys days, and it seems like from recent interviews he really cares about Brian, despite their unstable relationship
I'm not disagreeing with you about Mike somewhat "caring about Brian". If you had seen "The Beach Boys An American Band" documentary, you can actually see Mike looking down on Brian, and even making fun of him, which is pathetic of Mike. Mike only wants Brian now, because they're not really "The Beach Boys" without him. But they also need to include Al Jardine, and David Marks in the lineup again....
I am Team Brian because He seems genuine Mike love seems egotistical and a cornball
Ask any major musicians in LA who is the biggest asshole in thet music scene. The answer will always be the same. Mike Love. A close second was David Crosby. RIP.
Seeing the comments only cements what I've always thought: Nobody likes Mike. No love for Love.
My glove was the only person in the beach boys that was expendable….!
Haha, that dictation error is perfect. I will now refer to him as my glove.
@@georgespencer3973 it really wasn’t an error I typed it one time in something else and it came up like this, so I thought I would rename him, my glove… Glad you enjoyed it….!
Both mike and brian are important to the band. It'd be good to them settling down conflict like 2 elder wise men.
blend together brothers, cousins, & a couple of neighbor kids, then smother it all with a tyrannical father, & then mix thoroughly with a heavy dose of overwhelming fame, & what was once fun kid stuff became big (& serious) business...But then again, if it didn't all happen the way it all happened, we wouldn't have all been blessed with musical magical genius as well as decades of crazy drama & amazing stories
I love Brian, but I also recognize the distinctive sound of Mike Love and that the sound of the Beach Boys may never have reached their place without him, or Brian, or Carl, etc...
Between Murray, Brian and Dennis's nonsense, its a wonder Mike Love could put up with as much as he did. He and Al Jardine were grounded and if not for them guiding the band on tours, the Beach Boys would have completely disintegrated. The fact that Mike finally received compensation for co-writing so many of the songs Brian took credit for proves how talented he was. As far as a reunion, realize these guys are old and lucky to be walking, let alone singing. Brian Wilsons Smile was an absolute piece of crap and unless you are on drugs you can't listen to the whole thing without cringing. A brain on drugs is a terrible thing sadly.
One has to take sides with Brian Wilson... He wrote and produced it all while sacrificing himself doing it. Mike kept the show going on and got hybris on the way. Although without him it would have ended with Wilson dropping off.
Say what you want but I've never heard Love say anything bad about Brian -