Destiny - Why the "Lysander's Cry" Sparrow means a war is coming in Destiny

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2016
  • Destiny's "The Dawning" Event added the "Lysander's Cry" Sparrow. The lore around this single sparrow hints at the return of an old faction, An old enemy that rose against the city and a possible war in Destiny 2!
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  • @agentmanitoba0188
    @agentmanitoba0188 7 лет назад +70

    It'll be interesting if we can choose who we fight for, if picking up the sparrow doesn't already make the decision for us

    • @monkeyjamzter
      @monkeyjamzter 7 лет назад +1

      AgentManitoba01 na it was a gift ;)

    • @josephcole8102
      @josephcole8102 7 лет назад +1

      AgentManitoba01 like planetside!

    • @nicholasremacle1257
      @nicholasremacle1257 7 лет назад +6

      AgentManitoba01 yeah, I'm hoping we fight for the faction were in against the other factions, and if we aren't in a faction, we fight for the speaker or the vanguard or somthing like that. that's just my idea of how could would work tho,

    • @shilohgaming998
      @shilohgaming998 7 лет назад +1

      Future War Cult all the way

    • @yhelloh
      @yhelloh 2 года назад

      @@shilohgaming998 oof

  • @Pattamatt1998
    @Pattamatt1998 7 лет назад +82

    it makes me happy when Byf uploads obscure lore videos :)

  • @CrabDaddySupreme
    @CrabDaddySupreme 7 лет назад +44

    lysander
    Osirus
    Saint 14
    Hunter
    Warlock
    Titan
    all their disappearances are link together some how.
    and they were all candidates for the vanguard if not a part of it.
    we might get more information if we look into vangard lore

  • @andrewdailey3152
    @andrewdailey3152 5 лет назад +5

    2 years later and I wonder if lysander knew of the coming red war

  • @kevinbrock8442
    @kevinbrock8442 7 лет назад +25

    Sometimes when i watch Byf's stuff on the lore, i wonder if Bungie has even thought of all the lore behind this.

    • @littlewing1021
      @littlewing1021 7 лет назад +1

      Kevin Brock My thoughts exactly. They need to hire this man.

    • @ege.e7
      @ege.e7 7 лет назад +2

      Kevin Brock They have. They have thought of all the lore behind everything in this game.

    • @tudorpetrea984
      @tudorpetrea984 7 лет назад +13

      Kevin Brock destiny was merely a beta for destiny 2, as far as i m concerned. We wake up as zombie killing machines, barely get an explanation and take down entrie species. Vex hive fallen etc., i m certain destiny 2 will fuck us all by telling how osiris and lyslander found out the truth and rebelled, and we ve been fighting on the wrong side for the whole time. Can t wait to shove the clever dragon up the speakers arse.

    • @novawolfe7348
      @novawolfe7348 7 лет назад +4

      RageBeacon I've literally believed this since the moment I met the Speaker.

    • @yhelloh
      @yhelloh 2 года назад

      @@tudorpetrea984 LOL this has aged beautifully my friend

  • @mclarenf1lm154
    @mclarenf1lm154 7 лет назад +96

    Lysander could give us Pocket Infinity

    • @markmarkess4264
      @markmarkess4264 7 лет назад +2

      mclarenf1lm15 yes please

    • @Cole4Presi
      @Cole4Presi 7 лет назад +2

      mclarenf1lm15 that broken gun needs to stay in year 1.

    • @Purpletrident
      @Purpletrident 7 лет назад +12

      PvP is already broken. Bring back the Pocket Infinity!

    • @xandulu9753
      @xandulu9753 7 лет назад

      yes

    • @MrBloodguns
      @MrBloodguns 7 лет назад

      +Thomas Walsh broken??????

  • @blakeadonna1970
    @blakeadonna1970 7 лет назад +44

    I just wanna be frabjous, so Lysander better hook me up with some dank capes

    • @CantWant
      @CantWant 7 лет назад +7

      sp33dy f41c0n This guy know what's up.

    • @jackryan5880
      @jackryan5880 7 лет назад +3

      sp33dy f41c0n I just want black and green armor and shaders.

    • @alimustafa4753
      @alimustafa4753 7 лет назад

      yep you right

    • @DistastefulDarkness
      @DistastefulDarkness 7 лет назад +1

      I already have some kick ass cloaks, give me some better looking gauntlets god damn it

    • @alimustafa4753
      @alimustafa4753 7 лет назад

      lol

  • @nepd3stiny
    @nepd3stiny 7 лет назад +42

    it would be cool in destiny 2 if you could choose between a faction for Osiris and Lysander

    • @ericx6969
      @ericx6969 7 лет назад +2

      rogue guardian

    • @drakebro9786
      @drakebro9786 7 лет назад +2

      I'm going where cayde goes

    • @dranoelarios4788
      @dranoelarios4788 7 лет назад

      NightcoreD3stiny Osiris for me XD

    • @raptormaverick4774
      @raptormaverick4774 7 лет назад

      I'm a warlock
      Osiris is a warlock
      Put them together, and you will know who I'm going for.
      WARLOCK MASTER CLASS!!

    • @falken3413
      @falken3413 7 лет назад

      Raptor Maverick But Dredgen Yor is a hunter.
      I'm a hunter...
      Hunter God Race!

  • @RB3077
    @RB3077 7 лет назад

    You've given me much to think on Byf. Everytime i watch one of your lore videos i leave with more knowledge and thinks to think on. Keep it up please.

  • @albertolara5287
    @albertolara5287 7 лет назад

    love this kind of videos, keep up the great work!!

  • @armstars5531
    @armstars5531 7 лет назад

    Love listening to the lore stories byf, keep up the good work and merry Xmas guardian !

  • @joshrodriguez7974
    @joshrodriguez7974 7 лет назад

    Amazing lore/hypothesis. Continue on this lore with more information that comes up. Great job Byf.

  • @rechelieu
    @rechelieu 7 лет назад

    Another fantastic video. Listening to you makes me appreciate how deep the story behind this game is. Great!

  • @hudsonkalina8700
    @hudsonkalina8700 7 лет назад

    You have the perfect tone and voice for all this, please keep it up its perfect

  • @dylanjones930
    @dylanjones930 7 лет назад +2

    Favorite destiny 2 theory actually has a great potential story about not the aliens destroying the city but us gaurdings. Lysander would have to do something to our light if we were to run from a fight because without light we are nothing.

  • @The_Boulster
    @The_Boulster 7 лет назад +1

    5:55 He's coming around the bend... and... he... hits the forklift!

  • @rickyjohnson1673
    @rickyjohnson1673 7 лет назад

    your content is always great friend. thank you for all the time and effort you put forth for our benefit. happy holidays to you and yours. 🍺 slainte!

  • @surprizeforyou
    @surprizeforyou 7 лет назад

    LOVE these videos! Keep them coming!

  • @wrestlingchamp2004
    @wrestlingchamp2004 7 лет назад

    Always love the lore byf, keep up the good work

  • @GastonMorales
    @GastonMorales 7 лет назад

    Weird, I was subscribed to your channel before. No wonder I had to seach for it this time.
    Great vid again Byf!

  • @gods2armys
    @gods2armys 7 лет назад

    yet another great video byf

  • @dragonlord3581
    @dragonlord3581 7 лет назад

    love the way you give us lore , Byf

  • @Sword_of_Saint_14
    @Sword_of_Saint_14 7 лет назад

    nice, you make me cry with the way you tell stories

  • @Josecitox
    @Josecitox 7 лет назад +6

    The reveal of Osiris in Destiny 2 or whenever is by far the most hyped moment of this game. Bungie better not fail at it or else the dissapointment will be massive.

  • @chuckythedoll4815
    @chuckythedoll4815 7 лет назад

    Very nice video as always. Merry Christmas all.

  • @jhenke83
    @jhenke83 7 лет назад

    Byf, I love your videos! They make the destiny universe so much more real for me!

  • @thomasfogarty2320
    @thomasfogarty2320 7 лет назад

    that was amazing byf! such an interesting story!

  • @ckhawley09
    @ckhawley09 7 лет назад

    I am loving you videos about the last city and the lore! I am really thinking you are right on this for destiny 2 tease

  • @tomasbrombergzelaya6366
    @tomasbrombergzelaya6366 7 лет назад

    loved the video. keep em coming, we need more pre-destiny2 lore.

  • @Titanchief
    @Titanchief 7 лет назад

    OMG that is CRAZY cool info, wow thanks Byf

  • @ronaldramsey7736
    @ronaldramsey7736 7 лет назад +6

    Did we ever find out who is sending the patrol missions that are in three parts?

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 7 лет назад +1

      Ronald Ramsey
      I first though it was the Exo Stranger, now after all this time it could be anyone

  • @salerax1
    @salerax1 7 лет назад

    you have the best theories and I love to watch

  • @flamingliger5533
    @flamingliger5533 7 лет назад

    byf interesting vid mate. also merry christmas

  • @JeymanX7
    @JeymanX7 7 лет назад

    Another awesome video 👍

  • @kristianvarakkan570
    @kristianvarakkan570 7 лет назад

    well done man, well done Byf

  • @highidle5691
    @highidle5691 7 лет назад

    Exciting. I'm hoping for greater content from. Destiny 2. Your stuff gets me hyped

  • @Itaimeister
    @Itaimeister 7 лет назад

    it is always a pleasure watching one of your vids and this was quite interesting, I do wander what bungie are planning for the future and we might get some more hints like this one

  • @sabienalexander
    @sabienalexander 7 лет назад

    Love the video, was wondering what to it had to do lore wise

  • @HovektheArtist
    @HovektheArtist 5 лет назад +2

    There is always a war, a lost guardian, and a doom on its way

  • @GrassH0pper55
    @GrassH0pper55 7 лет назад +2

    What if Lysander discovered something about the Speaker and Traveler and saw that as cause for a rebellion perhaps he'll reveal that to us and we'll have to decide if betraying the Speaker and Traveler is the correct move. A war between Guardians loyal to the Speaker and those opposed that would be kick ass

  • @finalethespian
    @finalethespian 7 лет назад

    oooooo very interesting. Thank you Byf!

  • @OSENERO
    @OSENERO 7 лет назад

    the interesting thing is about the sparrow is that it's a one-off. the hull is different than G1 sparrows while keeping the wings. it's hull is wider and has gauges molded into the tunnels up by the Guardian undead of being behind a visor of sorts. Lysander, if following the theme of "one-off customs" might give us a nifty gun that might slightly resemble a previous gun yet act or look (or both) differently.

  • @arykturney5555
    @arykturney5555 7 лет назад

    Beautiful content as always. I was wondering if I could ask you some random lore questions I had but they are kinda long.

  • @Johnny-tz3yd
    @Johnny-tz3yd 7 лет назад

    Great video, keep it up.

  • @ShiverPike
    @ShiverPike 7 лет назад +6

    We need you to voice ghost.

  • @stealthtallyfox7210
    @stealthtallyfox7210 7 лет назад +3

    errr... secret gift? as in "For Those Who Stood At Bannerfall" gift? my my this is getting fun

    • @oscarofastora7422
      @oscarofastora7422 7 лет назад

      I always loved how my favorite factions emblem was plastered all over bannerfall

  • @willsammut
    @willsammut 7 лет назад +1

    Commenting for support, have a great Christmas.

  • @jsiewers1
    @jsiewers1 7 лет назад

    Always like your content but this stuff here made me sub up. Good shit

  • @hos4095
    @hos4095 7 лет назад

    Great video. Got my sub for that!

  • @feitz4424
    @feitz4424 7 лет назад

    All hail BYF our destiny lour lord you give me great meaning and understanding of the video game destiny thank your for making this and all of your lours. Keep doing what your doing! Thanks.

  • @TheTrueFeleas
    @TheTrueFeleas 7 лет назад +1

    So now we got Lysander, Taken King's sisters, and the Cabal's Emperor who wants us all dead.

  • @vcentsk
    @vcentsk 7 лет назад +19

    5:54 mini raid boss?!!?? lore video pls?

    • @irathecarnivore4606
      @irathecarnivore4606 7 лет назад +4

      There's no point until we actually figure out what kind of hellspawn that demon is

    • @vcentsk
      @vcentsk 7 лет назад +1

      Foxy The Carnivore yup lol they need a lore card for it

    • @alimustafa4753
      @alimustafa4753 7 лет назад +5

      the forklift27

  • @thespreer2142
    @thespreer2142 7 лет назад +14

    Could Lysander tie in with the exo stranger? After all, she gifted us her weapon, and "soon" etched into the casing of no time to explain could be referencing him. Thoughts?
    I mean, she was talking to someone that she was watching in the wild. (Us.) If lysander is gathering people, maybe he's gathering strong guardians. What if in destiny 2 we have a choice; to be for or against the city/tower?

    • @CantWant
      @CantWant 7 лет назад

      The Spreer True. This is so exciting.

    • @EnderSwagger
      @EnderSwagger 7 лет назад

      The Spreer The Exo Stranger is essentially from a different timeline, with very strong ties to the Vex. She doesn't seem to have any real connection to Lysander as far as we know.

    • @thespreer2142
      @thespreer2142 7 лет назад

      BricksPicks Maybe. But we do know she was with a group of people, or at least one other person. It's not a complete impossibility.

    • @leftwardglobe1643
      @leftwardglobe1643 7 лет назад +4

      No, but it also isn't impossible that on January first of next year the Traveller will morph into a giant middle finger and leave us behind, that doesn't mean it will happen, and if we could put any name to her partner, I'd say Osiris.

    • @jme-james
      @jme-james 7 лет назад +2

      i saw a theory saying she was talking to Kabr, Praedyth and Pahanin.
      When she said "lock the doors" It could have been her talking to Praedyth, who locked himself in the backroom away from the Gorgons.

  • @keoward8604
    @keoward8604 7 лет назад

    Bro great video

  • @domo4132
    @domo4132 7 лет назад

    Very interesting lore. ^-^ thanks!

  • @SaySoriah
    @SaySoriah 7 лет назад +1

    Anybody else think Lysander could be the leader of what The Stranger was a part of?

  • @sebastianc2669
    @sebastianc2669 7 лет назад +2

    Shaxx, and other vendors have some interesting dialogue. I've heard shaxx say that FWC are preparing for something big. Also Lysander sparrow is the same color as that one faction the concordat. I've also heard Dead Orbit saying that no or can stop their next move.

    • @greenavenger4733
      @greenavenger4733 7 лет назад

      Sebastian c FWC always are trying to prepare themselves but they will fall short...

    • @jackryan5880
      @jackryan5880 7 лет назад +1

      Sebastian c Cause Lyansder IS the leader of the damn Concordat.

    • @mahks-pectith3179
      @mahks-pectith3179 7 лет назад +1

      Sebastian c I've also heard Shaxx say, "Ahh screw 'em..."

  • @soldierplays4616
    @soldierplays4616 7 лет назад

    Great video

  • @ULTRA_U
    @ULTRA_U 2 года назад

    Came back here after the new video dropped on 8/12/21 and based on what happened recently. I can see Lysander making a big comeback.

  • @zanerichardson2001
    @zanerichardson2001 7 лет назад

    This is soo cool because I suggested this video on my twitter

  • @MultiMrDrago
    @MultiMrDrago 7 лет назад +1

    is it odd that in todays paper fortune that dropped mine says "you will destroy to rebuild".

  • @maxhafner3659
    @maxhafner3659 7 лет назад

    Great content.

  • @lazesummerstone
    @lazesummerstone 7 лет назад +1

    This gets me feeling even more like the tower will be destroyed and we'll have to strike out on our own, finding help from these groups that have already abandoned the tower or perhaps not welcome in the tower. Concordant, the Osirus cult, the Queen and Reef, the Nine? Thinking about it makes me pretty excited and hopeful for a major shakeup!

  • @Kidsnextdorks
    @Kidsnextdorks 7 лет назад +1

    Perhaps the Future War has come, a crusade from the remains of the Concordat. This may go back to early teasers for Destiny in 2013, where Prince Uldren points a gun at a guardian. That may have actually been Lysander.

  • @SlytherinReviews
    @SlytherinReviews 7 лет назад +2

    I"m guessing we are going to see more of Lysander's gifts coming

  • @aparrtv
    @aparrtv 7 лет назад

    5:55 DAMN THAT FORKLIFT

  • @chrisstick5403
    @chrisstick5403 7 лет назад +2

    Great video, as usual brother. Just a thought...What if Lysander was behind the mysterious transmissions and buffs during the Owl Sector ARG, just before ROI dropped? Could Brilliance, Glory, Magnificence, Splendor, and Fortitude, all have been "gifts" from Lysander? If so, that's a terrifying thought: a rogue Guardian, with the capability to infect our very systems without even so much as leaving a fingerprint. Last time, he "gifted" us with mysterious buffs. But what happens next time when his plans are more sinister, and the Vanguard can do nothing to stop it. The outbreak of those viruses was fruitful last time, and all of us Guardians, desperate for just a little more power, actually went into the fray, LOOKING to be INFECTED to boost our powers further. We may have played right into his hands on more than one occasion. (cue X Files theme)

  • @williamstewart7277
    @williamstewart7277 7 лет назад

    this was cool. keep it up

  • @brettbaker3991
    @brettbaker3991 7 лет назад

    where do you get this from is it all lore and grimore or do you think it up?? either way it's amazing

  • @435
    @435 7 лет назад

    When you return to Bannerfall during the Gjallahorn quest in RoI (specifically, 'A Symbol of Honor'), the flavor text reads:
    [ "There was a campaign to call it Lysander's Folly, but I don't want people even remembering his name." -Ikora Rey ]
    This indicates that the Vanguard have been trying to bury the information regarding the Concordat since the conflict. Coming from Ikora, someone who prizes knowledge so highly, this is especially interesting to me. It really shows how bitter that uprising was.

  • @azrazerz1445
    @azrazerz1445 7 лет назад

    The whole Lysander thing makes such good sense for the next destiny and would explain why we have new guardians. Ours from D1 join Lysander and our new guardians are either revived to fight them or they are the guardians that didn't turn. sounds pretty cool imo.

  • @alexlambert387
    @alexlambert387 7 лет назад

    I could imagine that Trials in Destiny 2 could have kind of a sub faction element to it that is relevant to this. You could pledge to either Osiris or Lysander, and you would get different rewards for whichever sub-faction you choose

  • @lordleviathan2831
    @lordleviathan2831 7 лет назад

    that fist emblem of Lysander's is in each of the three new strikes too. each new strike has a hidden monitor and they each have the fist. I could definitely see it being hints at destiny 2 being a civil war.

  • @elixini5565
    @elixini5565 7 лет назад

    I love you byf!!!

  • @gumibearlife1798
    @gumibearlife1798 7 лет назад

    you are the best byf

  • @catchableorphan5465
    @catchableorphan5465 7 лет назад

    Great video! although I swear Everytime byf says "I'll see you star side" it's slower than the last lol

  • @Sebastian-ti9jm
    @Sebastian-ti9jm 7 лет назад

    So in the last video that I saw of you byf you mentioned that alot of people from FWC I think it was when they looked into the future they saw chaos reigning on the city, could Lysander and his "new" faction be the cause?

  • @monosito59
    @monosito59 2 года назад

    Came back here after the latest happenings of the faction shenanigans at the end of Season of the Splicer. Cant wait for the next video that covers this for the current narrative.

  • @agentjtravel_walkthru4205
    @agentjtravel_walkthru4205 7 лет назад

    Awesome video bro!!! Imagine in destiny 2 we would have to fight against each other for power and control

  • @thelastgamer9193
    @thelastgamer9193 7 лет назад +1

    If there's the ghosts for the present 🎁 then maybe there's one for the ghost on floating gardens

  • @willklaus6281
    @willklaus6281 7 лет назад +3

    what if in the spring bungie drops another dlc where lysander comes and fucks up the city killing almost everyone and also attacking the iron temple. leaving only people like cayde, zavala, ikora, saldin. factions are destroyed the tower is in ruins, the city is chaos with most of the population. And at the end of the story lysander holds you prisoner and forces you watch him destroy the traveler, then murders your guardian in cold blood. destiny 2 would then pick up after that and you would be a new guardian that has to carry on your old guardians legacy. (you would lose everything that you got in year 1 except for shaders and emblem, maybe ships and shaders to) and the destiny 2 story would go on from there. sorry for any grammatical errors i wrote this in a hurry.

  • @francoisgeertsema8294
    @francoisgeertsema8294 7 лет назад

    Now my Paper Fortune makes a bit more sense....
    "You stood by the City in its hour of greatest need, and you will do so again"

  • @DomJoker
    @DomJoker 7 лет назад +1

    the secret makes me.think it may be that the traveler is the antagonist

  • @novasc441
    @novasc441 7 лет назад +1

    Your voice makes the even more interesting.

  • @greenavenger4733
    @greenavenger4733 7 лет назад +30

    FINALLY!!! SOMBODY GETS IT!!!

    • @greenavenger4733
      @greenavenger4733 7 лет назад +2

      Bungie can do something with this like an "April Update" but i don't think it will carry over to Destiny 2.

    • @Haltboy
      @Haltboy 7 лет назад +1

      Yeah man as soon as i watched myelins video on it i knew man that Lysander is gathering followers to form the concordat again and take control of the tower

    • @edwardramirez9829
      @edwardramirez9829 7 лет назад

      so I guess the really question is when will he strike and who out of us guardians follow him.

    • @greenavenger4733
      @greenavenger4733 7 лет назад

      Edward Ramirez Depending on his secret. Imaging his secret involves the Traveller or the Speaker. Something at least big enough to change our minds about Destiny would be amazing.

    • @goodandplenty4u
      @goodandplenty4u 7 лет назад

      I'm sure(well not just being hopefull) that all our hard work and hours put onto our characters will go over to destiny 2, like event items, payment items(in a way but not really) also exotics. I would hate to see a lot of the good exotics go away and vanish really.

  • @BB-ft6nd
    @BB-ft6nd 7 лет назад +1

    Lysander was a Spartan general who defeated the Athenians in 405BC. Lysander will likely defeat the city defenders and force the consensus to capitulate.

  • @nealdolphin
    @nealdolphin 7 лет назад

    Good as usual

  • @brandonnichols1265
    @brandonnichols1265 7 лет назад

    This is good lore that backs up your reasoning and theory of the city falling because Lysander could a reason that causes it to fall

  • @c1arex
    @c1arex Год назад

    Maybe this will have to do with the next saga! It’d be cool to see it come back after the final shape! I found this video after hearing Lysanders name in the d1 bannerfall ghorn mission!

  • @Jack-zc1nl
    @Jack-zc1nl 7 лет назад +3

    I saw that forklift SKREW U FORKLIFT!

  • @joshuariding3144
    @joshuariding3144 7 лет назад

    The story about what happened to Lysander and The Concordat is some Shakespearean stuff: would love to see that explored in the future, maybe as a April Update content expansion to keep destiny alive. Or as a larger expansion would be nice. :D

  • @sambarrett2048
    @sambarrett2048 7 лет назад

    I love how all of this background info is found through grimoire instead of Bungie making an effort to incorporate it into the story.

  • @marcelpotocnik7915
    @marcelpotocnik7915 7 лет назад

    Interesting theory Byf, could you do a video about Ulan Tan?

  • @arisenprestige5717
    @arisenprestige5717 7 лет назад

    Thanks byf

  • @scrapydo10
    @scrapydo10 7 лет назад

    I really found this theory thought provoking!

  • @austinnewman4693
    @austinnewman4693 7 лет назад

    hey byf right when you spawn at the tower, if you look to the left, there's a little purple symbol on the bottom of the pillar. this is the first time i'd noticed it, it might be a well known fact in the community by now, but i was wondering if you knew what it is

  • @cliby83
    @cliby83 7 лет назад

    Amazing story here!

  • @jesussolis595
    @jesussolis595 7 лет назад

    Byf can you make a video on the possibility of more travelers? And one that might head to Earth along with the Cabal Empire? Maybe even one possibly as taken? Or do you think it's not possible?

  • @themightyalpaca313
    @themightyalpaca313 7 лет назад +1

    Lysander knows something about the Traveler... something that Toland knew... something that Speaker dares not say, out of fear, of losing his position... his power. A war is coming Guardian... when it arrives, whose side will you be on? - Unknown

    • @themightyalpaca313
      @themightyalpaca313 7 лет назад

      I made this up, I thought it was a cool way to express my thoughts.

  • @yhelloh
    @yhelloh 2 года назад

    I’m so glad they brought Lysander back