Zha Jiang Noodles, Old Beijing-style (老北京炸酱面)

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  • Опубликовано: 9 дек 2018
  • Zha Jiang Mian are a classic Beijing noodle dish that features a sticky, chunky bean sauce. We wanted to show you how to make the sauce, but because this dish is often served with hand rolled noodles, we figured it'd be important to show you how to make that, too.
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  • @masterkoi29
    @masterkoi29 3 года назад +13

    This dish originated in China and brought by Chinese merchants when they resided to joseon. This was originally a Chinese dish. Zhajiangmian was an easy to eat food that most Chinese merchants brought to joseon. The popularity of this Chinese dish makes joseon people to create their own style of this dish. To all who doesn't know about Chinese history. You must search the Tang Dynasty where all Chinese culture, tradition,clothing's are shared by the tang emperor to joseon and Japan. Tang emperor shared it as a means of friendship and tang emperor even invited joseon scholars,Japan scholars to study in China to know and learned different Chinese arts etc...

    • @sara.cbc92
      @sara.cbc92 Год назад

      Jajangmyeon is Chinese
      Tongsul is Korean

  • @kendalson7817
    @kendalson7817 5 лет назад +248

    Miso, Lard, and MSG? I think I'm in love with this dish...

  • @ChineseCookingDemystified
    @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +100

    Hey guys, a few notes:
    1. I suppose I was a little overzealous with my denunciation of yellow bean paste (黄豆酱). Here's the thing: unless you live in China, I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and say that you won't be able to find the ganhuangjiang. So when it comes to subs, it's not the worst for sure. But IMO a much closer Chinese ingredient would be mianchi (面豉)... and as we covered in the Char Siu video, akamiso is basically exactly the same (the Japanese red miso you get is quite close to what the artisinal mianchi producers make in Guangdong).
    2. Red Miso is a bit less salty than ganhuangjiang though, so you might need to up the salt content in the final seasoning to arrive at the right taste. I'd start with a half a tablespoon of salt and go from there.
    3. As you could probably see, the red radish we used was... pretty big. It's called 水萝卜 in Chinese, you could absolutely use the little round ones as well.
    4. One thing that's worth emphasizing is that you still want to do a good job stirring the zhajiang as it's cooking - this will help the oil incorporate into the sauce. Using non-stick simply means that it doesn't have to be literally *constant* stirring. If you're using a wok you like can't move away for even ten seconds else it'll start to stick and you gotta scrape it off. Non-stick simply gives you a bit of breathing room.
    5. Question for any of you that're familiar with Korean cuisine: could you possibly give me more information on 'chunjang'? Wikipedia says it's a type of tianmianjiang (which's made with fermented mantou), is chunjang the same or is it made with soybeans? I know that the Korean version of this dish, Jajangmyeon, uses chunjang as a base. I'm wondering if that sauce has any similarities to ganhuangjiang or if it's basically tianmianjiang?
    6. Regarding vegetarian versions, often you'll see this made with egg. Unfortunately didn't get around to testing this with egg, apologies.
    7. Muslims in the North will opt for lamb or beef in this dish, with is totally cool as well. Be sure to get a nice, fatty cut - if using beef, you might want to augment things with a bit of pure beef fat as well.
    8. Something we totally forgot! Top the whole thing with a clove of raw garlic for a proper Beijing feel.

    • @deathpyre42
      @deathpyre42 5 лет назад +2

      Could a Jewish style schmaltz also work as a non-pork fat supplement?

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +11

      Sure thing, though if keeping kosher lamb/beef would be ok too, right? Fatty cuts of those two meats are what the Muslim Chinese in Beijing would usually opt for.
      Of course, chicken would also be tasty too. Maybe a bit of the fatty end of the chicken, a bit of the thigh... both together with the skin. Would taste pretty good, for sure.

    • @skaldjfhrulez
      @skaldjfhrulez 5 лет назад +3

      Huh, my family always used sweet bean paste (甜面酱). What's the difference between the two pastes?

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +8

      Hmm... I'm terrible at describing tastes, but I'd say that ganhuangjiang's a lot more mellow than tianmianjiang. To my taste buds, really does taste like a saltier akamiso. The dish definitely needs tianmianjiang too... ratios vary (I've often seen 3:1 to 5:1), we settled on 6:1 maybe a bit as a function of personal taste :)

    • @kylemeyer4266
      @kylemeyer4266 5 лет назад +3

      @@ChineseCookingDemystified I just tasted both, I would say the chungjang is basically the same. Of the two I had the tianmianjiang was more sour and less umami. Ingredients looked the same besides a few ingredients like msg (in the chunjang-more umami) The Chunjang included the koji starter culture in the ingredients.

  • @masterkoi29
    @masterkoi29 3 года назад +5

    During the silla of Korea and tang of China, many Chinese merchants reside to Korea after the silla falls and those Chinese merchants established their own Chinese clans inside Korea. Gong Yoo was a Chinese descent as his ancestors and lineage came from China. His ancestors are from the Chinese scholar Confucius. That is why there's a lot of Chinese in Korea coz many of them are merchants who resides in Korea after the silla and tang war is over.

  • @blargiefarg93
    @blargiefarg93 3 года назад +1

    Glad I'm watching your backlog, I've always really wanted to try Zha Jiang Mian!

  • @holden6104
    @holden6104 3 года назад +55

    When I was a kid in Korea in the early 80s, my family would often order jjajangmyun, which was delivered on bicycles in big metal boxes. I have never forgotten the taste that jjajangmyun, and the sauce was far more greasy and dark. Unfortunately, the recipe has changed over the years and now the dish tastes somewhat different, and since then I have been searching that "magical ingredient" which made the jjajangmyun taste so good back then. Watching your video, I wonder if the dish tasted different back in the 80s because it was still closer to the Chinese version of the dish. I will see if I can track down this red bean paste and give it a shot.

    • @user-rm9oi2jd8r
      @user-rm9oi2jd8r 3 года назад +18

      "Why does jjajangmyun taste worse these days" used to be a common topic of discussion in Korea. The consensus (that I am aware of) is that the biggest factor is that jjajangmyun back then used to use lard instead of vegetable oil.

    • @haruzanfuucha
      @haruzanfuucha 2 года назад +16

      @@user-rm9oi2jd8r The decrease in quality is because most Chinese restaurants in Korea these days are no longer operated by Hwagyo (ethnic Chinese) but by Koreans.

    • @XiangYu94
      @XiangYu94 2 года назад +4

      @@user-rm9oi2jd8r definitely second the Lard hypothesis. Unfortunately it also gives you major burps after the meal but it’s worth it yo

    • @Skypad00
      @Skypad00 Год назад +1

      Because they stopped making it the Chinese way.

  • @MrBEIJINGJACK
    @MrBEIJINGJACK 5 лет назад +11

    I love you two and we’ve just met....I lived in Beijing for several years and now cook Asian dishes in a U.S. restaurant.....of course my favorite is 老北京炸酱面。。and didn’t know red miso was a good substitute as the dry Beijing one is virtually impossible to find.....looking forward to doing a lot of your recipes!! 谢谢🙏

  • @andrewblack7852
    @andrewblack7852 4 года назад +15

    My father taught me to make it. His father found it in Beijing before the war. He brought the recipe into the family. It’s not very much like this though. Yellow bean sauce is used. Heat the oil and steep ginger and garlic before adding the bean paste. Eat always with a garlic clove in one hand . Bite with eat mouthful. That’s the old way. This version is very modern.

  • @dbarnes3079
    @dbarnes3079 4 года назад +2

    Just made this and thank so much it was fantastic! The bean sauce i made was slightly different but if visuals are a good clue I was spot on. Noodles were just as easy as it looked. Thanks again for sharing! Awesome!

  • @giuseppelogiurato5718
    @giuseppelogiurato5718 5 лет назад +182

    I always thought of this as Korean food, even though my Korean friends always insisted that the famous dish called chajangmyun (차짱편 ?) was somehow "Chinese", but I never really believed them because my Chinese friends (mostly Taiwanese) never ever ate it... Turns out I was wrong, it is Chinese after all... I should've listened to the people who knew best.

    • @giuseppelogiurato5718
      @giuseppelogiurato5718 5 лет назад +12

      Except that I recall the Korean recipe uses beef (plus zucchini squash, maybe?), and not pork, and something what they call "chajjang", which I think is made from black beans, not the same like "aka miso"... It looks like a thick black paste in a jar, very salty.

    • @xFirebird925x
      @xFirebird925x 4 года назад +55

      @@giuseppelogiurato5718 you just described the Zhajiang used in zhajiangmian.

    • @xFirebird925x
      @xFirebird925x 4 года назад +41

      @@giuseppelogiurato5718 the miso was just a substitute. Real zhajiang is exactly the black salty and chunky sauce you described.

    • @slomo4672
      @slomo4672 4 года назад +23

      Jajiangmian is made and eaten only in some parts of northern China.

    • @aka-bo6ej
      @aka-bo6ej 4 года назад +39

      I believe Taiwanese eat this dish much less frequently than northern Chinese.

  • @KevinAllOver
    @KevinAllOver 5 лет назад +134

    Yes! I'm a huge fan of korean-chinese jjajangmyeon and always wondered what the original recipe was. Thanks!

    • @pa474
      @pa474 5 лет назад +19

      Me too! Of course, I like the korean version since i grew up eating it. Posted a similar comment and dogged by weirdos who were hating on the korean version tho

    • @omggiiirl2077
      @omggiiirl2077 5 лет назад +6

      I think I prefer jjajangmyeon more. Especially Samseon jjajangmyeon!!! Omg all that seafood is so luxurious!! And you don't get heart burn after! I always get heartburn eating the Beijing style jiajiangmien. But who has tried the jjajang deokbokki? I haven't tried it yet, so what are your opinions? I've heard good things, so I'm exited to try it.

    • @user-qe4jn1me3e
      @user-qe4jn1me3e 5 лет назад

      Hey Stopthat it’s pretty good. Not as spicy but the flavor is still good

    • @cliffc3673
      @cliffc3673 5 лет назад +19

      @@pa474 I also grew up with the korean version and this video was really fascinating. I'm not trying to justify the haters, but do you think there might be too much Korea exposure (as of late) and people being annoyed by that? I'm Korean, so although I'm proud of us being on the map, I'm also like "enough already. do we need another 'trying kimchi for the first time' video or 'I get dressed up like a kpop boy band' video?" REGARDLESS, i do want to try this version really badly.

    • @liquidpersuasion
      @liquidpersuasion 5 лет назад +21

      All the haters hating on Korean jjajangmyeon need to realize that it was developed by Chinese immigrants living in Korea.

  • @dorianLanzius
    @dorianLanzius 5 лет назад +1

    awesome vid...keep up the great work!

  • @Ivan_Glamdryng
    @Ivan_Glamdryng 5 лет назад +1

    Great job, as usual!

  • @drijuce
    @drijuce 4 года назад +16

    God damn I love this channel, thank you for being so extra and thorough with every recipe it helps a lot.

  • @1983Boria
    @1983Boria 3 года назад +1

    This looks amazing!

  • @wickedmv
    @wickedmv 5 лет назад +11

    Yes, because I was totally gonna use yellow soybean paste... 😄.
    Your videos are totally awesome! Great job. 👍🏻

  • @strindevall
    @strindevall 3 года назад +3

    My favorite videos of yours are the ones that are easily adapted to a plant based diet. I will try this for sure!

  • @RA-gj6hm
    @RA-gj6hm 5 лет назад +1

    That looks amazing

  • @giuseppelogiurato5718
    @giuseppelogiurato5718 3 года назад +12

    Ok, now it makes sense that my Korean friends always tell me that the famous dish known as "cha-jjang-myun" (차짱면?) is not really originally a Korean dish... They always told me, when we ate it, "this is like 'spaghetti' for non-Italians; they think of spaghetti as 'Italian food', even though they know damn well that their version is not the same as it is in Italy, so, similar thing in Korea; this black bean noodle dish it is our 'Chinese spaghetti'!"... At least, that's what I was told... I've never been to Korea; maybe my Korean friends were just fucking with me, who knows? 😉👍

  • @chanceDdog2009
    @chanceDdog2009 5 лет назад

    Looks amazing..

  • @edwinsantoast7914
    @edwinsantoast7914 5 лет назад

    delicious! my favourite! thanks for the video! 😁👍😁👍😁👍

  • @shishirsubba713
    @shishirsubba713 5 лет назад +1

    Damn. Have to try this one real soon. Looks divinely delicious.

  • @Metetron
    @Metetron 5 лет назад +28

    Watching this while eating microwave spaghetti bolognese...

  • @sukimit20
    @sukimit20 3 года назад

    That rolling technique is genius!

  • @touji_01
    @touji_01 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for explaining to use 干黄酱.
    I ate 炸酱面 a long time ago in a mall in Flushing, NY and it was a very memorable experience. The mall had a thick, rancid odor of oil, and the noodles were also super oily but, my god, they tasted so good! And we saw the chef pulling the noodles live.
    The city I live in now also has zhajiangmian but they just can't get the sauces right. My attempts to make it myself have also failed. Now that you mentioned 干黄酱 not being available in America, I wonder if it's only available in New York City which is why the noodles are so much better there.
    I managed to get Japanese red miso paste and YES! This is definitely much closer to the zhajiangmian of my memories! I'm having some family members in NYC search for 干黄酱 so we'll see how that goes as well.

  • @dragondescendant1
    @dragondescendant1 5 лет назад +3

    direct translation for Zha Jiang Noodles is fried sauce noodles in Chinese, there are ga zillion version Zha Jiang noodles all over China, even in many other Asian countries, especially Korea..

  • @chrisw7347
    @chrisw7347 5 лет назад +20

    I have been waiting for this recipe for a long time. Your dan dan noodles and your wuhan noodles were staples for me... I can't wait to try this recipe. I'm literally watching noodle dish making, while eating noodle dish(Some home made, try-hard, from scratch shoyu ramen). This is my life right now. Noodle life!
    Don't worry, I'm repping Guangdong with some shu puerh after the meal :D

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +6

      Awesome, yeah it's been a much requested one. Everyone love noodle dishes, and why not?
      Though pu'er *is* from Yunnan ;)

    • @chrisw7347
      @chrisw7347 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah but ripe puerh is beloved in Guangdong, no? :D

  • @falxie_
    @falxie_ 3 года назад

    Wow that seems like a really simple recipe

  • @TheDortmunderJungs
    @TheDortmunderJungs 5 лет назад +1

    I love your videos so much! Thanks for all this dedication!
    Are these Noodles also the ones that you use in Dandan mian?

  • @FaceTheNorthStar
    @FaceTheNorthStar 4 года назад

    I must say using yellow bean paste instead is definitely fine - I like both

  • @daano465
    @daano465 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video. This is going to be the first time ill be making fresh noodles. I would like to make quite a nice badge of it. How long can i keep them fresh and what would be the best way to keep them? Thanks

  • @WingChunBoyz
    @WingChunBoyz 4 года назад +13

    I always thought Northern food was suppose to be salty. My theory is the Koreans made it sweet. They seem to like strong flavors.

    • @cSedx00022
      @cSedx00022 2 года назад +7

      It was actually Chinese immigrants in Korea who tweaked the dish to suit Korean palates.

  • @joenoffsinger6376
    @joenoffsinger6376 5 лет назад

    Dude, you could make serious money with your voice👍

  • @richiebrowne6302
    @richiebrowne6302 5 лет назад

    yum

  • @graemestevens2398
    @graemestevens2398 5 лет назад

    20 minutes later...! Wow, this is some high effort cooking!

    • @48956l
      @48956l 4 года назад +1

      You're on the wrong channel if you consider that high effort.

  • @Donar23
    @Donar23 4 года назад +5

    I just tried it and for some reason my oil was never really absorbed into the sauce, even though I was stirring non stop. The taste was great, but the consistency was a little weird.
    Also my noodles were sticking together and I tried to bite them off, not realizing there was a metal chop stick in between, which then broke off a bit of my tooth; but that's just me being stupid :D

  • @inodelacruz1245
    @inodelacruz1245 5 лет назад +3

    I tried this in singapore. The stall owner came from china. It was so good!!!

  • @emilioguerid11
    @emilioguerid11 5 лет назад +2

    I love when you give vegetarian options ! Thanks a lot for your videos I will try this out.

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +1

      Cheers, the vegetarian version of this dish is really quite famous. I'm sorry that we didn't end up getting the time to test the version with egg!

  • @luis______
    @luis______ 4 года назад +1

    Hi , i love your recipes, i have a question , the sauce tian miang jiang ( sweet bean sauce) that you use in this video is the same that you use in other videos (peking pork) with an orange box? Only change the brand ore are different sauce ? Thanks

  • @ironqqq
    @ironqqq 5 лет назад +12

    Interesting vid. I would add that if you live anywhere with a decent sized Chinese or Korean population in North America you could walk into to your local H Mart (Korean market), 99 Ranch or T&T Market (Chinese) and buy the equivalent noodle. I usually end up at H Mart with the Korean version.

    • @DanielBacaMaker
      @DanielBacaMaker 5 лет назад +1

      in my town its an 88 Ranch market. Does that make it lesser? LOL! Lots of great stuff there though. All my soy sauces and wines in easy reach.

  • @87540271
    @87540271 4 года назад

    炸酱面好吃。。

  • @user-qq9pu9zs3t
    @user-qq9pu9zs3t Год назад +1

    It's funny how so many people out there actually believe that zhajiangmian is a Korean delicacy. Meanwhile, the Korean term for it, jjajangmyeon, is actually a loanword. I mean, even someone with just a smidge of Asian language knowledge could figure that out just by listening to the pronunciation. It's like when people spot croissants, pisto, and pizza, they know right away that they're not American foods.

  • @clarinechai496
    @clarinechai496 2 года назад

    Hi thanks for to the recipe ! May I know how long does the sauce last in the fridge ? Or can it be kept in freezer ?

  • @MegaWhiteFighter
    @MegaWhiteFighter 5 лет назад +1

    Can you make some more authentic vermicelli rice noodle upload recipes besides famous Singapore one.

  • @asnwhgn3315
    @asnwhgn3315 4 года назад +1

    yeah, im an original Beijing, my mum uses pork mince instead of cubes. coz it can be melted more deeper with sauce. im not saying you are wrong, families have different favor of taste. i also recommend to use longer cooked Spaghetti instead of handmade noodle coz in the west i can't find, after my discovering it achieves even better for really not knowing why.

  • @jamescecil3417
    @jamescecil3417 5 лет назад +1

    Couldn't find any non-sweet pickled ginger. Is your pickled ginger fermented the same way yacai is? I was thinking about just pickling it myself.

  • @bjones9942
    @bjones9942 3 года назад

    Instead of the pork, this is also excellent with mixed seafood - like the kind you can find frozen in a bag.

  • @toddstropicals
    @toddstropicals 5 лет назад +2

    I seen this when I woke up and clicked it so fast, and I can eat pork for every reason.

  • @XiangYu94
    @XiangYu94 2 года назад +6

    I’m Chinese but have Muslim roommates so I adapted my recipe to use chopped firm tofu cubes so that we can all eat it. Honestly I like it better than pork because it’s healthier and I get to share the joy of this noodle dish with them

    • @DeltaAssaultGaming
      @DeltaAssaultGaming 2 года назад +1

      Silly. Nothing wrong with eating pork. Don’t be stupid.

    • @XiangYu94
      @XiangYu94 2 года назад +2

      @@DeltaAssaultGaming lol im not surprised that Americans equate hospitality to one's neighbor / roommate as stupidity.

  • @zhang69
    @zhang69 5 лет назад

    I am Chinese,I heard from my mother that when she was a child, she saw a woman in the village making hand-rolling noodles with very round shapes like those drawn by compasses.

  • @indowatiolympic867
    @indowatiolympic867 4 месяца назад

    I ❤ Chachoing Mien😋
    Recipe pls🙏

  • @imanukekaboom3715
    @imanukekaboom3715 3 года назад +1

    Thank you SO much for including alternate forms of the recipe for vegetarians or people who cannot eat pork- I am a muslim and eating pork is considered haram, but I have always had an interest in a lot of East-Asian foods, but every time I'd see an interesting video like this one for a recipe, it would include pork and not suggest any way to substitute it, so thank you very much for giving me the information I need to be able to enjoy these recipes myself!

  • @frankwu4747
    @frankwu4747 2 года назад

    FYI, there’re plenty of Asian supermarkets outside of Asia.

  • @p8032336
    @p8032336 4 года назад

    Dang its authentic

  • @analoguenerd9285
    @analoguenerd9285 5 лет назад +5

    As a northerner, this noodle is always my favorite in summer! You recipe is so good, and also considered variations for people who don't have access for some specific Chinese products. Love your channel!
    BUT, (it's not your fault), I hate it when people call it Beijing-style. It's not Beijing-style. And I don't know why and since when people started to call it Beijing-style, where clearly it is just northern style, might be originated in Shandong.

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +4

      Cheers, something that I think more people should know is the food pathways between Shandong and Beijing. SO many classic Beijing dishes (e.g. Muxurou) are actually Shandong dishes - I personally always sort of view Beijing food as a hybrid of Shandong and Dongbei food.
      That said, lemme know if you got a source on Zhajiangmian coming from Shandong! Baidu Baike says it originated from Beijing, but food origin stories are almost always apocryphal.

    • @analoguenerd9285
      @analoguenerd9285 5 лет назад +2

      @@ChineseCookingDemystified I'm from Dongbei, and I think Dongbei food is derived from Shandong food as well. Not that I am obsessed with Shandong food, but sometimes Beijing "owning" something is really annoying. It could be originated in many other places and picked up by Beijing in Qing Dynasty by the royal. Just guessing, because there are so many myths and legends about food origins. Anyway, I love Zhajiangmian so much! Expecting that some day you could post some Dongbei food recipe beside Guobaorou~~

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +1

      We got a guobaorou recipe! It was during my 'deep voice' narration phase so the video's a bit slow, but the recipe's solid: ruclips.net/video/jJhMLyA9WTk/видео.html

    • @haruzanfuucha
      @haruzanfuucha 5 лет назад +3

      Art Issue Most Dongbei food would have Shandong origins as the vast majority of the Han Chinese that settled in the region were of Shandong origin. The second biggest influence would be Manchu and other indigenous cuisines. Then Mongol, Russian, Korean and other ethnic minorities. Because most Han Chinese people in Northeast China trace their ancestries back to the migrants from Shandong, Northeastern Chinese were more culturally uniform compared to other geographical regions of China. People from the Northeast would first identify themselves as "Northeasterners" (东北人) before affiliating to individual provinces and cities/towns.

    • @finningamells9569
      @finningamells9569 2 года назад

      @@ChineseCookingDemystified a ok k

  • @sebastianrojas8805
    @sebastianrojas8805 4 года назад +1

    Oh I've tried the korean jajjang mian. It must be pretty similar I guess.

    • @benzaitenapollo4163
      @benzaitenapollo4163 4 года назад +2

      Flavorwise, the Chinese style is on the salty side, whereas the Korean one is on the sweet side

  • @Ivone58
    @Ivone58 2 года назад +5

    So that jjajangmyeon was A CHINESE DISH OMG my whole life was a lie

    • @sara.cbc92
      @sara.cbc92 Год назад

      Jajangmyeon is Chinese
      Tongsul is Korean

  • @nookiethephithack405
    @nookiethephithack405 5 лет назад

    Can we use rice flour?

  • @sos-vm9yi
    @sos-vm9yi 5 лет назад

    👌

  • @rhijulbec1
    @rhijulbec1 5 лет назад +1

    I got here 45 sec after you posted and there were 22 likes already! I LOVE this! 💖
    This looks like comfort food! A nice bowl of a brothy thin soup and that. Devine!
    I get really "broody" in the fall. I start to crave old favourites like stews and soups and great noodle and pasta plates. Hot, inviting, rich foods that are put away for summer are dragged out and Oh My! That first bite. You just sink back into your chair and close your eyes as the memories flow from childhood to my kids at home and now. Lovely.
    Cold weather food is the best and that looks like it hits the spot!
    Do you get snow and wintry weather where you two are? Or is it more temperate? Interested in whether you too have recipes that are specifically "cold weather comfort food"?
    Jenn 💖 in Canada 🍁

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +1

      Down here in Shenzhen it gets sort of coldish for 2-3 months of the year - usually 8-14C in winter. Cold enough that a sweater and some heat can be nice, but nothing like up north.
      For me at least, I'd consider hotpot to be my Chinese cold weather comfort food. Just asked Steph and she said the same thing lol. While abroad I think most people are familiar with the insanely fiery Sichuan hotpot (also nice in the winter), there's a bunch of different types :)

    • @rhijulbec1
      @rhijulbec1 5 лет назад

      @@ChineseCookingDemystified
      Good heavens, 😂 that's t-shirt weather here hahaha. J/K of course.
      Currently -3 here going to -10 overnight. We should have snow and ice by now. But every time it snows it warms up and melts!
      I'm going to try to find some of the ingredients for this.
      Thanks Steph and Chris
      Jenn 💖 in Canada 🍁

  • @ILoveLLawlietxD
    @ILoveLLawlietxD 3 года назад

    How is it gonna hold well, there's meat in it or does the sauce preserve it???

  • @bayarielnazarenostotomas4691
    @bayarielnazarenostotomas4691 3 года назад

    Can I use brown miso instead of red miso?

  • @nenben8759
    @nenben8759 4 года назад

    Can I sub shou gan mian for a local asian supermarket fresh noodles?
    Like so long as I go for wheat unalkaline and no egg
    And it looks like some are rolled and cut like that

  • @LessTalkMoreDelicious
    @LessTalkMoreDelicious 4 года назад

    I have red-miso and also hacho-miso in the fridge (hacho is all 100% soybean/no-rice, and supposedly hoisin is a sub for hacho too).
    Is hatcho-miso a good substitute for Tianmianjiang??? 🤔

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  4 года назад +1

      Never had hatcho-miso! Tianmianjiang is kind of its own flavor, but you know what? A sauce with fried lard & two types of miso sounds pretty good too, eh? Got for it, it might not be *exactly* the same but I think it'd be tasty nonetheless.

    • @LessTalkMoreDelicious
      @LessTalkMoreDelicious 4 года назад +1

      Chinese Cooking Demystified ...I actually just made it today, haha. Turned out really great!
      Yeah, if you ever find Japanese Hatcho miso, please try it. It’s mostly used for Nagoya cuisine and is closer to Chinese fermented bean pastes (than regular miso). It is very very strong and potent, much diff taste than standard red/white miso.

  • @tisoysos
    @tisoysos 3 года назад

    Can you use the same noodle recipe for Dan Dan Noodles?

  • @dimasakbar7668
    @dimasakbar7668 5 лет назад

    Have you tried korean Jjajangmeon? Is chinese zha jiang sauce similar and can be subbed with korean chunjang?

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +2

      So I was asking this a bit in the notes, nowhere close to an expert on Korean food :)
      Edit: Seems like Tianmianjiang and Chunjang aren't the same thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @Christian4ever_
    @Christian4ever_ Год назад

    I want to eat both the Korean version and this original Chinese version

  • @Aaronschinaguide
    @Aaronschinaguide Год назад

    In the south of China they have zajiang 杂酱 noodles. I wonder how they differ in taste ?

  • @jacobguralnick2820
    @jacobguralnick2820 4 года назад

    Hi, I've been binging these videos. I'm a coeliac unfortunately, for Chinese noodles are there any half-decent replacement for regular AP flour?

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  3 года назад +3

      You can use the sauce and swap the wheat noodles with rice noodles or buckwheat noodles, it'll also be very tasty.

  • @davidnguyen9792
    @davidnguyen9792 5 лет назад

    Excuse me, can you show how to make chinese dry noddles sauce? I like this sauce and eat very much. I dont know to make at home. Thank you

    • @Balala_
      @Balala_ 5 лет назад

      Maybe their video on Wuhan Hot Dry Noodles is what you're looking for?

  • @akshay5295
    @akshay5295 2 года назад

    How long can I store the sauce in the fridge?

  • @pa0lab00m7
    @pa0lab00m7 5 лет назад

    Could this really do okay with hoisin sauce instead of tian mian jiang? I have read sources that the two are not interchangeable.

    • @8841572
      @8841572 5 лет назад +2

      They're not and it won't be the same, but it will be similar enough. Hoisin gives you a sweet and earthy flavor which is what tian mian jiang is supposed to add.

  • @Emma-zh1we
    @Emma-zh1we 3 года назад

    How many portion do I get out of the recipe?

  • @quintonhoffert6526
    @quintonhoffert6526 3 года назад +1

    I know this is really old and I'm probably unlikely to get a response, but do you know if you can substitute Japanese udon for 手擀面? I don't have a good setup to make noodles and I don't really want to buy all the stuff needed to make it, but I have easy access to udon. Thanks if possible for the response.

    • @joechisten7176
      @joechisten7176 3 года назад

      It should be fine, as far as I can tell they're made with the exact same ingredients

  • @the_jen_guo
    @the_jen_guo 5 месяцев назад

    how long is the jarred sauce good in the fridge?

  • @MotoM0nk
    @MotoM0nk Год назад

    Didn't have tian mian jiang and made it myself (there is a single utube video on this). Also, used dark miso (made in India - no other access). No meat. Replaced leek with dried onion flakes bc no access to fresh leek or onion. Replaced meat with soy granules. [Am living in remote place, without access to anything other than Amazon India lol]. And by laziness have poured the ready sauce into jar which had ghee in it (didn't want to wash - no hot water).
    And...result was amazingly tasty sauce!not authentic but yummy.
    Can you please give a good tian mian sauce recipe from scratch?

  • @dj_kitchen
    @dj_kitchen 5 лет назад

    I don't like pork, can I change with chicken or beef?

  • @qiuhuichen714
    @qiuhuichen714 2 года назад

    Can you use dobanjian?

  • @Balala_
    @Balala_ 5 лет назад

    I always thought zhajiangmian contained douchi...

  • @blee04524
    @blee04524 5 лет назад

    i always wonder what comes before msg

  • @Mr6Sinner
    @Mr6Sinner 5 лет назад +1

    Can you give the English translation of these ingredients?

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +5

      All in the Reddit post :) www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/a56dhf/recipe_old_beijing_zha_jiang_mian_%E8%80%81%E5%8C%97%E4%BA%AC%E7%82%B8%E9%85%B1%E9%9D%A2/

  • @06newstar
    @06newstar 4 года назад

    Zhajiang mian are good, but nothing beats regan mian off the street in Wuhan

  • @aaronsakulich4889
    @aaronsakulich4889 5 лет назад

    This looks super good, but I've got to ask... does ganhuangjian have an equivalent English name? Is it "red bean paste" or something? Knowing the English equivalent will make it easier for me at the H Mart :)

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +1

      Dry Soybean Paste. I don't think you'd be able to find it at H-Mart :/ Try the Red Miso route!

  • @Weeping-Angel
    @Weeping-Angel 2 года назад +2

    My mom makes it a little different. It might be because we’re Cantonese.

  • @quadpumped34
    @quadpumped34 5 лет назад

    1:98 "don't use yellow soybean paste"? I googled the EAN from the package and the only result I've got, was yellow soybean paste on ebay :-| What is this stuff in english if its not yellow soybean paste?
    Oh, and could you please provide a reddit link to your written recipe? This would be awesome!

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад

      Huh, how do you do that? Couldn't find it myself. I usually consider Yellow Soybean Paste to be 黄豆酱 - i.e. this stuff: shop.waiyeehong.com/food-ingredients/sauces-oils/other-sauces/soybean-sauce-yellow-bean-paste
      From what I could tell, the English name is 'dry soybean paste', i.e. this stuff: shop.waiyeehong.com/food-ingredients/sauces-oils/other-sauces/dry-soybean-paste

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад

      BTW, written post is up now. Always out a touch later than the video, sorry :)

    • @quadpumped34
      @quadpumped34 5 лет назад

      @@ChineseCookingDemystified I just googled for the EAN number from below the barcode, visible at 1:56 in the video. Ok, yellow bean paste then :) thanks.

  • @nombreapellido7223
    @nombreapellido7223 5 лет назад

    Ohh...i used yellow bean paste because of the blogger china sichuan food.

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад

      Her stuff's great, don't get me wrong. Best English language Chinese cooking blogger I know of. As I said in the notes, I think I might've been a bit overzealous with my denunciation of its usage in the video. It undeniably won't get you the old Beijing style zhajiangmian, but it's not bad. There's some places here in Shenzhen that opt for yellow bean paste :)

  • @hteekay
    @hteekay 5 лет назад

    I NEED THIS IN MY BELLY

  • @asianangler
    @asianangler Год назад

    i think you can try ground beef or chicken if you can't eat pork

  • @DASDmiser
    @DASDmiser 3 года назад

    Ah... the perfect cheap lunch in Fengtai district.

  • @hopepletting476
    @hopepletting476 4 года назад

    Wow I always thought this was the korean dish jjajangmyeon but it’s actually Chinese.. the more you know

    • @jasonhuang6078
      @jasonhuang6078 3 года назад

      This dish is popular and originally from northeast Asia.

    • @WJames-vk2kp
      @WJames-vk2kp 2 года назад

      Korea uses black bean paste instead of soybean paste and also doesn't use sweet bean sauce (I don't think).

  • @socalrcguy1
    @socalrcguy1 5 лет назад

    What noodle do i need?

    • @denny.wanderer
      @denny.wanderer 5 лет назад

      spaghetti

    • @socalrcguy1
      @socalrcguy1 5 лет назад

      Doc Holiday big joke lol

    • @frankchen4229
      @frankchen4229 4 месяца назад

      I can't speak on authenticity but any noodle should be fine for preserving the essence of the dish
      (And yes, that can include spaghetti or angel hair pasta)

  • @austin1377
    @austin1377 5 лет назад

    I wish I could find msg in those big crystals in the states

    • @kurosujiomake
      @kurosujiomake 5 лет назад

      Your local Chinese or Japanese store probably has those.
      If not you can make it yourself by boiling brown kelp/chicken/mushrooms in brine, add a tiny amount of magnesium chloride (like real small) and ground limestone. Boil for a few days adding water when it gets too low, then filter out the non dissolved things and then boil down the remaining liquid until you can collect the crystals. Note if you use chicken the crystals will be yellowed and if you use mushrooms they will get a brownish gray color. Also this method produces salt alongside MSG so you risk oversalting food

    • @austin1377
      @austin1377 5 лет назад

      @@kurosujiomake I've checked online and locally and I can't find them. Thanks for the recipe, I probably won't do it though because it sounds more like chemistry than cooking :P. I'll just continue using boring old granulated msg for now.

  • @ILoveLLawlietxD
    @ILoveLLawlietxD 3 года назад

    So I made the noodles but I gotta say I'm not a big fan of the consistency or I did something wrong idk I don't rly think that was it, but they're verrry chewy and it was a bit off putting, that's certainly not everyone's cup of tea, or should I say, noodle TT but I'm proud I can say of myself that I made noodles from scratch haha

  • @sara.cbc92
    @sara.cbc92 Год назад

    Jajangmyeon is Chinese
    Tongsul is Korean

  • @mayurmahale3049
    @mayurmahale3049 5 лет назад +1

    I'm early? Pshaw

  • @RyanFlee
    @RyanFlee 5 лет назад

    Soooo, basically the noodles are chinese tagliatelle?! Well, the dough is a little different, but shaping the noodles is virtually the same procedure...

  • @notinthemoodfornames8033
    @notinthemoodfornames8033 2 года назад

    Not old Beijing style without the beets.

  • @WJames-vk2kp
    @WJames-vk2kp 2 года назад

    Soybean paste instead of miso.

  • @AnhTrieu90
    @AnhTrieu90 5 лет назад

    Nah, I'm too lazy to hand roll the noodle. Probably gonna use a pasta machine and cut with the fettuccini setting.

    • @ChineseCookingDemystified
      @ChineseCookingDemystified  5 лет назад +2

      Sure, totally. We always feel the need to go that mile, but I think that's a good idea.

  • @rj1trrc680
    @rj1trrc680 4 года назад +2

    at least when i tried both, i prefer the korean version