Starting a Locomotive, (Full Sequence), EMD GP10 at the Florida Railroad Museum in Parrish, FL
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2015
- Here is the complete startup sequence of this GP10. It was originally a "B" unit for Union Pacific, then was rebuilt with a cab later on. The only step I didn't show was me opening and closing the test cocks on the engine, which are valves that allow moisture to be purged out of the cylinders prior to starting. That's why it appears I've tried to start the engine twice.
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Thanks! I've been trying to figure out how to start my new train all morning!
Has it worked then?
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi yes. But I can't use it anyway. The tires are flat.
Shame. I could sell you some, but I only got spares left.
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi lol
Abu Bakr al-Baghdad
At one time...everything in there was brand new....
Michelangelo Mason that was a loooooong time ago
tk aubuchon Intresting how did it look like....
38 years ago
re manufactured into a gp10. originally made in ~1950
No way!
Most important part : unfold the chair.
Lol
It might have an interlock
True my uncle didn't do it and now he dead
What if it is already in position ???
@@chelladuraipec7973 you have fold the chair for shutting down engine so it cannot be already in position
the only thing these videos cant give us is the smell...
gittyupalice96 you make a good point!
I guess when I'm refueling I could just soak myself in diesel fuel then watch train videos and it would complete the youtube experience.
gittyupalice96 there you go :)
LOL XD
Lel
Being an Engineer, this Engine Beat always gives Goosebumps.....
So here i am killing time by learning about starting a diesel electric locomotive during corona virus lockdown/quarantine. Hope I'm not the only one
John Smith yep same bro
Yeet
Yeah you are not the only one bro
Same here. BTW I've also spent time learning how to fire up and bring up to operating pressure a steam locomotive, both a full size one and a scale one
Same
Just a matter of info when starting a locomotive do not let go until the engine reaches idle speed. By waiting until its idling when you let go of the start switch there is very little load on the starting contactors . If you let go before idle has been achieved one of the contactors could stick due to high amperage still flowing through the contactors . Happened to me the fourth time I started a locomotive and had to use a flagstick to get the stuck contactor to release. Until both starter contacts are released the engine will not power up the traction circuits.
Retired locomotive engineer
James Shanks thank you for the advice! I was not trained about that possibility happening but it makes sense. I still manage to learn something every day!
tk aubuchon
That's all we can ask if you learn one new thing a day it means your paying attention.
Is that engine owned by a railroad or a museum? I ask because those batteries sound very weak starting the engine. That engine should crank right over with authority if the batteries are up to a full charge.
James Shanks it's owned by the Florida Railroad Museum, where I work at as the track Foreman. We classify ourselves as both in order to maintain compliance with most FRA rules. (Given our location and situation we are no required to abide by all of them) If I remember correctly I took this video right before the batteries took a s**t. But since then we've installed new batteries and it does a lot better now.
Ahh, I was wondering about the battery; I didn't hear the normal rrrrrr sound of the starter motor (or is that normal? maybe the GP10 has a different starter? IDK).
Benjamin Esposti depends on the locomotive. SD70ACe's seem to be the noisiest but they use air I believe
Oh, the sound of an EMD starting, and coming to idle. The only sound better was hearing one ramp up to synchronous speed.
I used to care for a set of stationary EMDs at a power plant. This vid brought back massive memories. Woodward governor!
Those EMDs get into your blood... they are machines of greatness.
Great video and TNX for making it. I was a conductor on a scenic line in NH for a couple of years and had to start up the locomotive many days. I thought the only thing you should have shown was opening/closing the cocks in the cylinders to blow out any condensation. As we all know, failure to do that can cause engine failure from the steam explosion in a cylinder. I miss starting up those giant engines. TNX again for making the video.
The steam explosion in the cylinder? That’s a new one. How about just simple old water from the cooling system getting on top of a piston through a leaky head seal? Water doesn’t compress, so you open the test cocks to pump that water out of he cylinder as the piston comes to the top of its stroke, that prevents a bent connecting rod. The fuel explosion that occurs in that same cylinder while the engine is running is significantly more powerful than any “steam” explosion would ever be.
That was the button with the red line, out the cocks were open and you could hear the hissing. Pushed in the cocks were closed and there was no hissing.
Was that on the Conway scenic railroad? I go there quite frequent, I may remember you
No. We don’t all know that.
how would you shut it down though, cause now I have a locomotive that I don't know how to shut down...
The Amazing Gamer 129 push the button that says emergency fuel cut off. Also you can pull the throttle handle slightly and push forward and it shuts down
tk aubuchon thanks but the cops already caught me this morning... lol
The Amazing Gamer 129 guess I need to put a disclaimer on this video now haha
😂 😂 😂
Just take a trusty sledgehammer to the engine, you might die, and sometimes it takes more than one whack, but it gets the job done!
Damn, that is a nice sound. So satisfying when it starts. I wonder if many, or any, women appreciate it.
I remember the 7s, 9s, and 10s running on the CC&P back in the 80's and 90's. People didn't understand my excitement about what they called "Just a locomotive". To me, the fact that so many were still in active service on one road, 20 years after most first generation diesels were scrapped, meant that I had a front row seat in a working museum.
We had one GP9 painted black with the GP18s...the GP8 and GP10s were my favorite
These are the coolest sounding engines!
Not necessarily better, but a whole lot faster than filling water tank, shoveling coal into the furnace, lighting the furnace, waiting for the water to boil, & patiently waiting to build up steam pressure. Cool video!
@ Pttranjal Shrivaastav Not necessarily. For all the faff and bother it takes to get an old teapot going, the sheer torque they had is unmatched. A healthy 2-8-0 or 2-8-2 will outpull this geep by a factor of two or three, and a mainline monster like a 4-8-4 will damn near pull an order of magnitude more cars.
No, the real reason diesels won out is lower maintenance, lower operating costs, and it being so much easier to run 5, 6, 10, 20 of the damned things in a single train under a single crew. This Geep may not have the tractive efford of even a Consolidation, *But you can just throw six Geeps into the same train and suddenly pull what used to require a Northern*.
Where did you get that idea, some of the largest steam loco's can't even match Diesel starting tractive effort, nor sustained
TestECull Let's see.... According to specs on a 4-8-8-4, the tractive effort is 145,930 lbf... a modern SD70 can produce 200,000 lbf tractive effort starting out and 175,000 lbf continuous.
@Micah Lall-TrailThey do, yes. One healthy 4-8-4 Northern can do the work of three or four Geeps. A mallet like UP 4014 or 3986 can do the work of 3-4 sixaxle heavies(There's even a video on here of 3986 pulling a loaded stacktrain up Challenger Hill totally unassisted!). They just lose out on operating costs. You have to have a crew on each and every locomotive, so double-heading them is significantly pricier than with diesels. They have VORACIOUS appetites for both fuel and for water. The emissions leave a lot to be desired. They need to be greased pretty often, every 4-8 hours pretty much. They are mandated by federal law to have regular frame-off overhauls(And for good reason, boiler exlposions are terrifyingly powerful, which is what these overhauls are meant to prevent). Oh, and they're also hell on trackage, as they don't run truly 'balanced' and all the reciprocating mass...several tons of it on a mainline steamer...beats the rails right up while their lengthy rigid wheelbases are hard on turnouts.
To put it simply, it costs an order of magnitude less to throw 3 or 4 SD90MACs at a stacktrain than to lash it to 3986 even though 3986 can pull it with grace and ease all on her own.
Oh, and god save your mortal soul if the drivers ever jump the tracks. It's enough of a bitch to get a diesel back on the rails, but if a steamer's drivers jump off...yyeeaahhhh.
@@Sevalecan ruclips.net/video/XhgHrDbN4EU/видео.html You see a diesel in consist? I sure don't. Yet there she is, a 4-6-6-4 pulling a loaded stacktrain like it's nothing. Teapots are good at defying the raw numbers on their datasheets, it seems.
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Gyönyörű hangja van.
It’s rather unsettling that they’re dead quiet while cranking. In a split second you get this monstrous roar. Good video!
thats one hell of a lovely sound
Police:
So, how did you stole a train and crash it into a house?
Dude:
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how u crash a train into a house?
@@BuscoAlmas Steer it into a house, duh!
@@ujjalmajumdar618 😂😂
Thanks for the upload. One uncle of mine was a driver of a similar one. About 50 years ago I once requested him, if I could enter there & see how he did things. He didn't allow me, I was too young, he said.
(Sat 12 Feb 2022 20h13)
Why this video is so addictive?.
Watched more than 100 times.
Notice that this model, Electro-Motive Diesel GP10 is equipped with the Extra-Comfortable Engineers Captain's chair, For those extra-long days & night trips.....lol.
I don't know about extra comfortable but beats sitting on the window sill!! lol
Brian Demas
That engineers seat is the standard EMD mushroom seat with a folding back support. The premium seat has folding armrest and adjustable angles for the back rest.
Make the chairs too comfy and the engineers fall asleep.
Hugh Martell you have got a point
One seat is a shitter I think.
Thanks, now i can move the locomotive that's been sitting down the street from me since last night :)
I originally read the Warning 600volts as Warning "GOD"volts lol. Had to rewind and look again.
KThachPSN just about! Don't stick your tongue in there!
Close enough for government work. :)
Lol I also did exact same thing😂😂
GOD GON ZAP YO ASS
This train runs on ZEUS POWER!
thanks for showing, the fun part is when you push the red handled "lay" shaft, and rev-up the engine. its used on cold engine, its a throdle handle.. keep up the good work.
Ahh the memories. 1976, Boston and Maine RR spur where they liked to leave loco's parked on Sundays. I was 13 or 14, snooping around and found a operator's manual on board. Several times I started the loco's and drove them up and down the 1/3 mile spur. Last time I got too cocky, didn't brake soon enough and smacked the metal stop at the end of the spur pretty hard. I figured that after that they'd have RR cops hiding and waiting for me to come back.
B&M RR learned their lesson and stopped leaving loco's sitting on the spur. The next year they left self powered commuter train cars instead. By then I was 15/16. Plenty a female classmate got a "tour" of those cars :-)
Karl H lolol bad you are!
Nice story bro (I am not being ironic here) that is really interesting story
😂😂😂👍👍
why is everybody having such an adventurous life while I'm sitting home the whole day watching those videos
Man, I wish _I_ could pull chicks with my train know-how
I've seen a GE U15C start up! It was at a shed covered in diesel oil, and it was one of the BEST things I've seen!
I just loved the sound how the engine started
Mechanical symphony, compliments of EMD.
George Boyd indeed!
I love the sound of an old EMD.
For some weird reason i smiled when the engine started.🙂🙂🙂
Devavrathan M.U that's normal lol
wow, that was freaking awesome, and such a process !!!!
I am newly recruited driver in Pakistan Railways. This video helped a lot. We have many EMD Class locomotives. Thanks for the video
Chalo
I’m now the conductor of 741 different trains because of this video, thanks!
Real life: push twist shove
Train Sim: CTRL+E
No u start running in tsw2020
fine, i can kick out the driver now
That's a fantastic sound when she starts.
What a great sound. I use the same sound to fall asleep. I now appreciate how tough it must be running at night. I couldn't do it.
What a sound! Diesel power!!!
I don't have an idea how I ended up here, but - great video :-)!
Walter White thank you
Gosh the sound of that engine is great!
My Grandpa worked for the UP for 35 years, while I'm sure he never drove one of these I'm glad to see a bit of what his job was like.
Great video!
BNSFguy 617 thank you!
BNSFguy617
Thanks!
I'm off to pinch a train now ;)
He may have shown how to start it, but he didn't tell you how to make it move.
@@paulw.woodring7304 we can read the throttle lever
@@badasshuh69 That's not what I meant. There is another sequence of switches to get it to move. Part of my engineeer's training was being taken to a dead, cold locomotive and asked to get it up and running. You'd be amazed that even after a month of engine school, it's not that simple to figure out unless you've done it a few or more times.
@@paulw.woodring7304 ohhhh..... You are a pilot!!!! Cool.... May I ask which country are you from?
@@badasshuh69 U. S. former. For CSX. And it's locomotive engineer here. And no current or former professional engineer who cares would ever tell the general public how to steal a locomotive.
Thanks it really helped me. I was stranded for 3 hours trying to figure this out. Now i can go back home:)
The most satisfying video
Awesome stuff
+Engine201 Thank you!
iam also a train driver
First comment
Sounds like my washing machine
Amazing video, I have always loved trains, great job.
When I was back in highschool, I used to practise work? ....if thats what you call it. I worked at a locomotive workshop in Sweden, named Green Cargo. The best place I've ever worked at! Working/Doing Service with the huge engines was my favourite part.
Smelled like gold, literally.
Do you follow most of the same steps in reverse to shut it down, or is there a killswitch?
T. T. G. There is an emergency fuel cut off button that you can press to shut it down. You can also pull out the throttle handle and push it towards the window then it shuts it down. But yes all switches, breakers, and the big knife switch need to be turned off after shutdown.
tk aubuchon Interesting! Thanks for the reply!
T. T. G. Your welcome!
T. T. G.
Push button on the control panel one push and it shuts down the fuel pump and drops out the run relay to the governor which then runs the fuel rack to the no fuel shutdown position. But before or after you push the shutdown button you must isolate the engine and if it is a turbocharged engine after shutdown do not open the main battery switch until the auxiliary oil pump has shut off. The auxiliary pumps lube oil to the turbocharger bearings to cool them off so the heat from the turbo doesn't cook the oil in the bearings and make the turbo more difficult to spin.
James Shanks Thanks for the info!
great
Very interesting video! 👍🏻👍🏻
Things there look very complicated. Amazing!
Thank you for sharing! 🙋🏻♂️
I mean, without knowing the first thing about locomotives, this struck me as a particularly smooth starting sequence. She just started!!!!
So that's why you never hear of a stolen locomotive.
Hold my beer.
Doesn't matter if you figure out the sequence to get it started. You still can't move it without the reverser which is removed after it's shut down.
That is insane. Could you tell me what the engine hours are on that beast?
How coooool is this!
This is awesome, what a beast!
This shows why very few locomotives are stolen. When's the last time you saw a bait locomotive?
varry good
Lucas Castro Thank you.
Absolutely Wonderful Sound....
These video's are the reason they don't allow me in museums.
Come on Kenny, we're going to Savannah
Francesco Muriana why just why
i miss twd now
Never understood why they make the operator's station so uncomfortable. Truck drivers get air-ride seat, stereo, etc. Train drivers get a rock-hard stool and a side-ways control panel from the 1920's. Guess maybe it's so uncomfortable so you can't possibly fall asleep driving? lol
I've never actually seen a train start. This is new to me!
Thank you for uploading it
If trains had blow off valves that be funny!
Justin Mainemer yes
Steam locomotives have them. You can find videos of people setting them at the correct pressure - yes, that involves steaming up the loco and intentionally increasing pressure. Damn things are loud as hell!
The blow off valve would do absolutely nothing as unlike gas engines, diesels do not have throttles. The engine speed is controlled by the fuel flow
They do have "Test Cocks" which are located on the side of the engine block, one for each cylinder assembly. After an engine has set not running for a day or so, these test cocks can be cracked open and pull out the "Low Oil Switch" (that the fellow pulled out that had the red band on it) and turn the engine over a few turns. This expells any water vapor inside the combustion chamber. (Its so tight a little water will bust a piston). Then tighten the test cocks and push in the Low Oil Button and turn the start switch to PRIME. Then, when the fuel in the sight glass runs clear, with not that many bubbles, you push on the LAY-SHAFT ( which is the short rod handle to your right. This gives more fuel) and you turn the switch to START. This "motors the main generator" and rotates the engine. (On units that are equipped with main Alternators, the engine starts with two starter motors. So you see, you were right about the valves.
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr *suddenly goes to notch 8* rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR- *goes to idle* BOOOOOSH
theres at least 10,000 gallons of testosterone flowing at any moment of that engine running.
Bob Saget yep!
Or a lot of angry pixies.
When I worked at Chicago Central this was our primary power....we had over 50 GP10s and GP8s.
Great Video!
I also want to be train driver
Rohtash Grover I also wanna be a drive trainer
Guys ... it's a train operator. You don't DRIVE the train ... you operate it.
I also want to be a drive operator
Rohtash Grover Engineer, not driver!
Kennith Umperovitch THANK YOU! ENGINEER, NOT DRIVER!
0:46 RIP headphones users
maklumat yang bagus. terima kasih kerana buat video ini
Very interesting. Great video.
The knob in the video thumbnail looked like a frogs face.
m also want to be a train driver coz my grandfather is also loco poilet
Rahul Mark that's cool
These big bastards used to scare the hell outta me when I was little. My Dad drove locos in Australia for part of his 41 yr career. Took me to work with him and while training as a driver in about 1973 he let me drive an engine with about 4 wagons. I was King of the world . Still remember that diesel fumes smell on his clothing and the unreal way the driver wound up the engines to get going
Great video 👍
Takes as long to start my mower, but I noticed you dont use any profanity.
Lmao, this is so fuggin' true!
Andrew R i smiled at this😂
Try Train Sim world 2018 simulator game❤️❤️❤️ It has same procedures to start the engine and 80% of buttons are working. The game gives the feel like you are dealing with a real train. Also one of the train in that game is the train in this video.
Something like this one? ruclips.net/video/oH9SjlTRmeI/видео.html
That is one sweet sounding engine.
Super and very informative and interesting video...very useful...brother...
OK and now watch some car videos :D
No
slam it on tarmacs and daily it
Thanks! I was trying to fiure out how to start my new train all year!
Very interesting video thank you for sharing!
A_Quarter Of_Twelve your welcome thanks for watching!
Thanks, this is very helpful! My dastardly neighbor parked their train infront of my driveway last night and i havent been able to leave the house yet
Great video of the game of how a diesrl starts.
So peaceful
Good video! Thanks for sharing.
David McCord thank you for watching!
Interesting video 🔥🔥🔥🔥, avtor 💪 💪 💪 thank you All power
Thankx for uploading..
That’s quite a procedure !!!
The beast has awakened
Great video
Nice video! :-) Greetings from Italy!
Excellent video
Thanks! Now I can start my own railroad.
All I need is a locomotive, track, cars....
McRocket and money lol
Sounds smooth👍💪
The driver must to have a good memory to do all these steps. Can not be someone who has short memory.
Nice video.
That is so dang cool.
A few weeks ago I sat in the seat of Seaboard 1114 in Hamlet, NC. That was pretty cool but as I was looking over the controls I was wondering just how you went about starting the thing. Although I REALLY doubt it had any batteries in it, which is probably a good thing.