Hey everyone! I am LOVING this show. FYI for copyright purposes we have to cut out a lot of our scenes/commentary. If there is something missing from this episode that you'd like me to comment on let me know and I'll try and answer it in the comments. 🖤 👇
i don't mind the cuts, just hearing your thoughts (as a therapist) about the behaviours being displayed in the show is very educational. It's like i'm having a free therapy here 😅
@@hopeandhugs Hmmm, this is a great question. I'll have to watch for this more. Right now I think I'd say it's because she spends a lot of time with her and feel like she "knows her motives" and personality and so she may be warming up simply due to frequency of contact and lack of conflict.
I realize that wednesday is a huge hit right now, but even with that happening and everybody appreciating this show, I don't think many people have picked up on just how good of an actor Jenna Ortega is, AND, how difficult it is to play a character like wednesday.... Even with all the attention and all the accolades she's getting for her performance, I don't think people have fully grasped exactly HOW FLAWLESSLY she portrays this character, and how unbelievable she is as an actor. This is one of the most under-rated performances of ALL TIME. I do believe people will catch up and pick up on all the nuances before much longer because this show IS so popular and there's so many people commnenting on it...
Wednesday Addams is probably one of the toughest characters to play. All of her emotions have to be subtle enough to not feel out of character, but the viewer still needs to be able to read them. It's a fine balance that you need to find and stay on constantly. I was impressed by how easy Jenna Ortega made it look, particularly during the scenes where other characters say something she doesn't expect, and you can see her processing it internally.
@@bouboulroz Yeah, they could not have cast a better actor for this role... They also couldn't have cast a better role for enid, which is the opposite of wednesday, and just as difficult to play. A character like that is difficult because its so easy to OVER act the excitement and boundless energy, but emma myers plays the part just as good as jenna plays wednesday. It almost sucks that she's a supporting character because inevitably she won't get quite as much recognition because its not enid's show, its wednesdays. But with that said, I am pleasantly surprised at how much buzz emma herself is getting. The two not only do their individual parts so well, they have great screen chemistry. The casting of two flawless actors for two top-tier characters was just as difficult as the performances of the actors for sure.... I can't believe how well they did, and I was already aware of both and knew both had great skill. Speaking of enid, she NAILS that almost "crazy eyed happy" look, which is just as hard as jenna having to do those super subtle emotional expressions. These girls are top notch, work well together, and hopefully, this is just the beginning, and I'd like to see them dual-cast in future stuff. Like, idk, an action spy comedy or a legit horror, or maybe some straight comedy or straight up drama/suspense/thrillers, because these two girls together are certified gold and their talents are unchartable.
@@the.truth.doctor I mentioned this in a comment to someone else, but emma myers is equally good and her character is equally difficult to play. Its almost shameful that she's a supporting actor because she'll likely get somewhat less accolades because of that, but as i said in the other comment i'm pleasantly surprised that emma is getting quite a bit of fanfare. Enid is super difficult. Its HARD to play high energy like that and sell it without overselling it. And that "I just drank 5 diet pepsis and ate a bag of pixie sticks then a half pan of brownies" crazy eyed glassy look she gets, but never TOO much is absolute perfection. She sells it so perfectly and I'd like to see them work together on other projects because their chemistry is as good as their acting.
Imagine thinking nobody is acknowledging that Jenna Ortega has done an amazing job as Wednesday. I haven't seen a single video or piece about to show that doesn't mention it!
I was surprised you skipped what I thought was the most telling line of this episode: “I act as if I don’t care if people dislike me. Deep down… I secretly enjoy it.” If a character tells her something personal, it's almost as if she is compelled to tell them something back...
@@the.truth.doctor I was wondering: was she serious or sarcastic? Sometimes it seems impossible to tell. Same with "I heard you killed a boy. - Actually it was two, but who is counting?"
For someone as transactional and antisocial as Wednesday, her relationship with Enid is fascinating, the two are more or less complete opposites, yet the chemistry between the two are fantastic, and it is worth noting and examining the fact that Wednesday acts differently towards Enid then she does anyone else, I mean Enid is able to call out Wednesday directly and Wednesday actually takes the advice to heart and works to right the wrong, in this case appologising to Thing.
You said transactional. Red flag for dumb person. And a jerk. You really think it is ok to dis someone for having transactions in life? How much money do you make a year? That is not a transaction? Do you pay mortage or rent? Is that not a transaction?
Transactional is a way of saying it is your fault if she abuses you. So you are a jerk if fair play is involved. How she has a license it a mystery. If she even has one.
Well since you asked stuff I think bears mentioning: Xavier assuming that Wednesday comment on shooting a bow was sarcasm and proceeding to try to teach basic archery to someone who is a much better archer. Then attempting to make her the center of the class's attention with his spider trick which obviously annoyed her. ( even Thornhill called him out on it ) His attempts to impress Wednesday seem rooted in what impresses other girls. The poor fool. Eugene being the only one in an extra-circular activity who doesn't condescend to Wednesday. The result being that Wednesday actually shows an interest in beekeeping and may have actually made a friend. Wednesday giving the most transactional reason for joining the black cats with Enid wanting that reason to be transformational.
I hated that therapist😭she already knew too much about Wednesday before meeting her, crossed boundaries, and just kept trying to one up Wednesday like the sessions are a debate- like guuuurrrl
People tend to express their emotions openly and usually instinctively. It comes naturally and without much control to smile or cry or show distain. Wednesday is the same BUT in reverse. She has the same feelings and desires as everyone else but she instinctively represses them rather then openly showing them. It's as natural for her to not smile or laugh as it is for us to smile or laugh. I can actually relate to this though not to her extreme. That in mind her emotional responses are almost like reading tells in poker players body language. A subtle head tilt or eyebrow raise for Wednesday can often speak volumes. I find it super fun to watch and try to decipher what's going on in her head. One example being that Wednesady typically only blinks when she is in uncomfortable situations. Yes that's right if you pay attention she rarely ever blinks. In fact most of her emotional tells come from her eyes and because she rarely blinks her eyes do most of the talking. Loving your reactions btw.
I love the way you analize Wednesday! I think one thing that woud be awesome is to analize her microexpressions and body lenguage because it's so interesting how even without blinking jenna is able to show so much of what wednesday is feeling.
*Super agree with this!* 🤩 Jenna's micro-expressions are *THE* thing that's fascinating me the most about this Wednesday and it's such a shame when someone"skips"reacting to those! I mean..I feel her interaction with the therapist so far has been like 30% dialouge,70% micro-expressions!
I relate to both Enid and Wednesday. As a small child I was much more naturally and Enid. But overtime became more and more a Wednesday due to trauma. I don't dislike being a Wednesday sometimes, but have been working on reconnecting with my inner Enid. Fortunately it's going well and feels much better to have balance between both of them.
I like adultified characters like Wendsday and Harry Potter. I always felt like adults had this weird blind spot, almost like they were just stupid. They were wedded to whatever assumptions, in complete denial of whatever I had to deal with. Adults are kind of hopeless.
You can have adult neurodivergent characters and it'll be the same. The neurodivergent character, even if an adult, will very often (if not infantalized) by other characters, adults in particular but also sometimes children. As a personal experience, this is also the case living your life as a neurodivergent person. That's because we are much more perceptive about all the BS thrown into our society and we don't want to play by rules that don't even make sense.
Harry Potter and his friends were absolute toddlers, I have no clue what you’re talking about? It’s fine they were little shites, they were teenagers, I just hate people trying to play them off as super adult or moral figures, they were cruel bullies.
I love that you talked about Wednesday and neurodivergence. As an autistic person I really saw myself in a lot of the things Wednesday did, and really identified with her.
People tell me they think I might be on the spectrum, but my diagnoses are Bipolar, avoidant personality disorder and social anxiety, so yeah, might just be that these disorders share a lot of stuff. I too can relate a lot to Wednesday, but I for some reason doesn't like her that much. She's stubborn, she wants things her way always, and she isn't willing to change unless she wants to, and I am exactly that way, and I like being that way, haha, but seeing her be that way for some reason I don't like it that much.
@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare hiii! Lots of people are misdiagnosed with other things like bipolar or bpd because professionals aren’t that good at spotting autistic traits when they’re masked or overlapped w trauma, especially in afab people. If you feel like the term fits, then I would encourage you to look into it more! Ofc sometimes the dx was right and the overlap was mimicking the traits too. :)
@@Indigo_Ivy my mom and aunt are bipolar as well, my mom has BPD too, my aunt's son (my cousin) he is on the spectrum. And I heard things like this runs in families. I guess it doesn't matter what I have, I will still always feel like the odd one out or feel weird, and like people don't get me, and be awkward around people, feeling like I can't match their vibe.
As someone who has already watched the whole show, some of the comments you make give me a massive appreciation for both the writing & acting, and your observational abilities. Very, VERY subtle character actions you appear to have picked up on become much more important details later in how & why a character is acting the way they are.
Watching the show then coming here to listen to your take on characters makes this show 10 times better for me. Things about the Wednesday character just makes a lot more sense to me now
I appreciate the talk from the 19:47 minute mark to the 20:57 mark and your very great use of neurodivergent. Thank you for describing it so well, I appreciate that it's difficult but that you did such a good job. It is incredibly difficult.
You may already follow them, but other therapists I enjoy are Cinema Therapy, Mended Light, Mickey Atkins, and Dr. Honda. Cinema Therapy especially, as their content is exclusive to movies and shows. I might be missing a few others but those are who popped in my head. Agreed that a therapist’s perspective really adds to the experience and allows for a deeper understanding and appreciation to the characters and themes. So happy there are therapists who fit this niche on RUclips. 😊
I love your series so far! On the topic of how Wednesday is starting to trust + how you pointed out how she and Enid both held onto the flag at the end, was that there were several times when Enid gave Wednesday casual physical touches (arm over the shoulder or bumping arms as they walk). It's small, but as a character who is known to dislike closeness/intimacy, the act of not rejecting those casual touches sticks out. I have several close friends who are touch repulsed and cannot stand physical touch most days- however, if they are in a positive headspace will be ok with things like fist bumps. It makes those moments more important to me IMO. I also like the more subtle expressions that the show uses with Wednesday- like the calculating pause before she shows her teacher the Nightshades emblem. It fits her character to not be overly expressive, yet they still convey emotion.
I loved this series and am looking forward to your take. The one point I would contest is that you said Weems assumes the killer isn't someone from the school. I would take it as she's protecting the school at all costs. Both in the sense of protecting her students, and the school's reputation. I would guess that she thinks it could be a student, but would rather handle the matter in house if it is. And if its not a student, she'd rather not attract unnecessary negative attention to the school. It's why she fakes Rowan being alive and discredits Wednesday's claims of there being a monster and pushes the bear attack narrative. Claims of a monster whether its from the school or not, is bad for her, the school, and the students. She's not making assumptions, she's being protective.
I really like how you insisted on the fact that Wednesday is not acting like this because she feels superior to everyone else (if I may add nor even is it out of arrogance). Personally, I feel so connected to Wednesday in the sense that she's a social recluse because she knows that society, even though she's actually harmless, will reject her. For someone like Wednesday, (and myself in a way, since I have always been one of those people engrossed in their studies, have always been the nerd, poly-tongues, polymaths, the pantomath try outs), we know that even if we're trying to give genuine advice that would save someone from a difficult situation, they will NOT listen to us. So, we kind of opt out of the societal system once and for all. The society happens outside of us, as if in a different realm, and we happen outside of it. Consequently, feeling emotions for this entity, that is society, would be a little awkward for us, since we don't exist for the society, and the society does not exist for us. So, yes, all interactions would be transactional. And, if anyone is wondering if our lot still feels like they want to belong somewhere, or with someone, I'd say that as the doctor so accurately put it that we "want to belong, but we don't know where". Apparently the world needs a whole load of Enids with her accepting, warm, and kind nature for this to happen. To whoever that might read that extra long comment: This is, of course, just my opinion and there're NO intentions behind it to generalise.
Following your reactions and takes on this show is truly a blessing. Cuz most of my friends don't actually pick up on the psychological aspect and being so deeper, talkative about this subject is nice in some sense not only share this with you, but experience 'Wednesday'again through similar lens. So thank you, can't wait to follow your whole journey and thoughts for some special future scenes.
I'm glad I'm not the only one kind of uncomfortable with Neurodivergent. I don't find it insulting or baseless. I find it inaccurate, which is even worse. Once again, I loved your insights.
I’ve just found the term neurominority to be helpful for me as I agree, the spectrum of neurodiversity should include everyone as people have different traits. I like using neurominority better as I feel it portrays this fact a bit better! Hope this helps :)
can you talk a but more about Enid’s personality? She has a bubbly personality but I also feel like she is in a way forcing herself to be bubbly sometimes and maybe the reason she likes Wednesday is because she is such a polar opposite to her Enid’s persona and she admires Wednesday for showing traits that the rest of the world perceive as negative.
Principle Weems telling Wednesday that her mother won that trophy is another reminder to Wednesday that she is living in her mothers shadow. That everything she can achieve at the school, her mother, as a classic overachiever, has already done.
Thank you! Yes we had a lot of trouble uploading this one because of copyright. Hopefully future episodes will come out a bit sooner! Thank you for waiting and watching. ❤️
Oh my God, your reactions are great! I know this a fictional character but I feel so much empathy with Wednesday and when I watched your reactions I felt like somebody is really seeing me(her) which never has happened before.
Neuroscience is one of my passions. I truly appreciate the time you take to explain topics thoroughly and in simple ways. I'm so glad that I found your channel through this Wednesday series. You're doing great!
i love hearing your thoughts on this series! i definitely saw wednesday as neurodivergent- i'm not sure if you got there yet, but the line where weems said to her "not everything is black and white, there are shades of grey" and wednesday replied "not to me" just screamed autistic to me lol and i related to wednesday sm
About a week ago, I binge-watched the entire season in one night. Immediately after, I did a YT search for someone doing a psych profile on Wednesday Addams, but didn't find any. A few days later, your episode 1 video show up in my feed. The fact you are doing it for each episode is just icing on the cake.
Looove seeing the actual psychological background and getting the information. There is so much more behind what we see it’s just the tip of the iceberg. Thanks for taking us under the water to see more of the iceberg!
Wednesday's relationship with her polar opposite in Enid was the unexpected highlight of the show for me, do see if there's something interesting to be said there in future episodes :)
her response to her roommate is fascinating, it's her form of tolerance even in complete opposition, She claims things about social media yet has never had a cellphone to experience these things 1st hand
I would like to hear more about the probable ASD in Wednesday. even her dancing looks like stim dancing to me.I think it's very empowering for many people to see their autistic traits they've been rejected for seen as so darkly adorable in Wednesday's character. This show really makes me miss the more authentic Wednesday phases of my younger self. It's interesting you seem critical of her therapist, because the therapy scenes rand very true to my own experiences with therapy. I also have trouble not seeing therapists as "adversaries" when you feel like (probably some of it me projecting, but what it feels like) the therapist os out to prove this feeling different thing is just a facade and/or an illusion and inside you are just like everyone else and if your insights about yourself don't lign up with my theories about all humans I'm going to dismiss them and then therapy becomes a battle ground for your own uniqueness.
The dance moves are mostly from Fosse. Who was into supermodel beautiful people moving aggressivly or strangely...so it's a legit dance style, technically. It's just not...super popular cause the moves are strange. But yeah some of the moves Wednesday chose to use are exact replicas of those dance moves. I know that some people have done side by side comparisons on tiktok and stuff. You can also just see examples of the face style on tiktok and I assume RUclips as well.
I’m glad you mentioned open-ended questions - I’m a teacher and we’re trained never to ask ‘leading’ questions when dealing with any kind of safeguarding with the children. Let the children talk, parrot back what they say for clarification, reassure them that they’re not causing a problem by taking your time.
Yay🎉 So glad you’re doing the whole season 🙌🏻 I’ve always been curious about where Wednesday falls on the spectrum from sociopathy to psychopathy, or perhaps something else entirely. You had mentioned examining traits of sociopathy & psychopathy in the first video. Would love to hear the follow up to that!
I love your commentary on the therapist, seeing as you actually are one! I absolutely love therapy and have a great therapist but the one in Wednesday consistently crosses boundaries and is so presumptuous, I'm glad you call out the questionable methods
Hi! I'm a psychology BA, life coach, and applying for an MSW now, and I love (and cant help) to analyze what I watch from a psychological perspective. REALLY enjoying your reactions because it feels like I'd love to watch things with you, I'm learning even more terms and things and getting to rewatch bits of Wednesday which I adored. Binged it in 2 days LOL thanks for this content! I've subscribed and am excited to keep watching these and explore further content of yours :) thanks for what you do!
One of the things with Wednesday Adams is that she has a very strong sense of justice. So when she said her greatest fear was "doing something terrible" she is being self aware, that she is capable of some dark and terrible things and so she fears that she can violate her own sense of justice. An example of good terrible and unjust terrible is the piranha's in the swimming pool. That was terrible, but it was good terrible because it was in service to justice, those boys had abused her brother. Bad terrible would be her destroying the school, because that would be unjust. Her sense of justice may also be a reason she went after the boy at the fair, to save him, because to let him die as she prophesied, would be unjust, a bad terrible. It is also may play a role in her continued search for him (his body) afterwards, even though he tried to kill her, to allow people to think he is still alive when she knows he is dead is itself unjust. Her sense of justice also plays a role in her writing, as in writing mystery novels, which are also about justice. No one is the villain in their own story, and so that is Wednesdays fear, becoming the villain of her own story.
I really enjoy this series about the mind of Wednesday. I have watched the series twice now, and to get insights from a professional doctor about her behavior and mindset just makes the episodes and her character so much more understandable.
I'm absolutely loving this series! You explain things so clearly and respectfully, and I can't wait to see what you think of the rest of the series. As someone who's much more of an Enid myself, I would love your thoughts on how her and Wednesday are foils to each other's characters and the intricacies of their relationship as you move through the episodes. I absolutely love their dynamic and would love to hear what you think of it!
I love every single one of your reactions to wednesday so far!!! this is one of the shows that is sooo good to make a psycologic examination and you do it so smoothly. Besides I love that you are actually adoring the show!!!
I really love your reactions to this. They are so educational and very accurate which makes them more enjoyable. You sure seem like an outstanding professional in your field. Looking forward to episode 3
What I found interesting was that Wednesday said “If *you* would regect me.” As in, “I don’t care about you. But if Enid or my brother were to reject me, I would be upset.”
Something I like that they do with the therapist to make you kind of hate her is the way the camera is so zoomed in on her. It makes her seem very aggressive and up in your space.
I just wanted to say that as someone who would like to one day be an expression/art therapist, I really appreciate you dissection of shows, I also dissect things like this, but I feel like I’m learning in every one of your videos, or at least I feel like some of the ideas I’ve toyed with in my head are validated.
It's curious how you omitted the scenes where Wednesday and Enid have interactions... since those are the scenes where that transactional behavior turns into a transformative one...
She says in a pinned comment above she literally HAD to cut out a lot of scenes due to copyright issues. So there was a lot of stuff she didn't want to have to cut out but ended up having to so that everyone can watch the video.
Thank you so much for touching on the subject of neurodivergence (and also those ridiculous "5 signs you have adhd" articles etc) - it frustrates me to no end to see these things being thrown around and thrust upon people who are perceived as "different" when people can be different for so many different reasons. When I was a child I had the term "Asperger's Syndrome" thrown at me by the adults...then I grew up, turned into an adult myself and tossed that phrase aside because it turned out to be inaccurate and more damaging than anything else. I would rather if people had seen me as the person I really was, rather than throwing generalisations at me that didn't ultimately fit, because it messed with my head a lot.
A lot of us neurodivergent people prefer this term because the alternative is often words like weirdoes, freaks or even the r-word. Neurodivergent is not so much a thing to put people into boxes, as it is a way to *not* decide on who in society gets to be "normal" hence why it more so refers to the way brain neurons interact.
I definitely wanna see more stuff that goes deeper into wednesday’s and enids relationship, bc they’re polar opposites yet wednesday seems the most comfortable around her (letting enid touch her, taking her advice, etc) thank u!
I get what you're saying about neurodivergence. But I'm pretty certain Wednesday is deliberately written as Autistic. Tim Burton is self diagnosed Autistic so I don't think any of these "hints" are accidental - he knows enough about neurodivergence to recognise it in him self. Wednesdays core strengths and weakness in the show all have a root in Autistic traits and the plot is driven by her sense of justice. It also makes sense why she doesn't yield to the social pressure to conform, it doesn't occur to her that she should pretend she didn't see what she saw. She knows what she was and that's that. There's a line in a later episode that really cements it for me. "it’s not my fault I can’t decipher your emotional morse code".
I think part of the reason that she showed her Dorm mother the photo off the bat is that she feels like the dorm mother accepts Wednesday for how she is. If you think back to the introduction the mother gives Wednesday a black dahlia and tells her that she likes to pick flowers that match the girls. Wednesday seemed intrigued and seemed to really appreciate the sentiment. I think that made her feel safe with her.
I remember going to a therapist at my university he got frustrated in the end for many of the same reasons but I wasn't there because I wanted to be. So in hindsight I think it didn't work out for many of the same reasons. He also was new to the job to so I think it was half and half.
Just found this channel as i was searching reactions to Wedensday that coalesced with my desire to hear something not being spoken about..if that makes sense.. I'm going to finish your series but wanted to pop in and say thanks... you've said a lot of thing's already that I've been needing to hear for 39 year's... I'd never have imagined a show and a random youtuber would make me think so deeply as to post a thank you message..yet here we are. Madness. Thanks.
I am intrigued by the scene when Weems tells Wednesday that Morticia was captain of the rowing team and won the Poe Cup four times and that she was her copilot. I’m curious about a few things. Does Weems see a parallel between her competitive relationship with Morticia and the relationship of Wednesday & Enid? Does Weems secretly hate Wednesday simply because she is Morticia’s daughter? I don’t think so, I think Weems likes Wednesday but isn’t about to tell her that. What are your thoughts?
I just binged the show (no spoilers I promise) and happened to stumble across this channel and watched your two episodes covering Wednesday so far and I love this! Can't wait to watch more
It caught me off guard when kinbott asked Wednesday is she was doing it for attention, cuz therapists aren’t supposed to say things like that. They’re supposed to help u and that doesn’t help anyone saying that.
Definitely on my calendar now, I love your insight on this series. Wednesday Addams is such an important character to me. I grew up watching the 90s films and because of my obsession with those as a kid my parents also introduced me to the 60s sitcom. I love this family and Wednesday especially because I was an outcast and frankly I still am. I always wished to be like her, not caring about what other people think. I am neurodiverse and only got my diagnosis two years ago at the age of 22. I am trans and also on the aroace spec. And Wednesday has just been a character I found comfort in, Jenna really did an amazing job and I cannot wait to watch you break down the rest of the episodes because so far your analysis of her character has been so comforting if that makes sense. I know a younger me would've been so happy to have had this representation, especially as latinx, I really hope they continue it. Thank you!
This is on my schedule!! Love how you are explaining everything, so easy to digest. Have a kid who is going through social difficulties “nuerotypical” this is relatable ❤
The thing that amazed me about Jenna Ortega's portrayal of Wednesday Addams, is how much she can show Wednesday's inner thoughts and feelings with nothing more than her eyes. The deadpan stares that cut away anytime she hears something that threatens to put a crack in her inner defenses. The quick look away while she processes the threat and repairs the damage, then right back to the stare. It actually made me wonder if her eye movement was something written in as dialogue in the script, if it was coached by Tim Burton, or if it was just Ortega's interpretation. Whatever the case, it was brilliant. In one interview I saw before I watched it, Jenna said Tim wanted it so the viewer never saw Wednesday blink, and if she did blink it was to signify that something had moved her WAY out of her comfort zone. She said she got really good at going a really long time without blinking. So I watched the whole series to see if I ever saw her blink in a normal scene, and she never does
I took intensive group therapy. For the most part, it was pretty great, but when you're talking about the therapist making assumptions and redirecting the conversation towards those assumptions, I was reminded of the time that the therapists kept pushing me and pushing me into admitting to feeling something I was just not feeling just because people who could relate, felt those things. No, their stories are different than mine, I can relate to them in many ways and I get why they could relate to me but I simply did NOT feel what they assumed I should be feeling. I'm still kind of salty about it since I never got to address how I felt pressured and almost gaslighted by the therapists.
I'm enjoying so much to see your comment and your reactions and I am so excited to see your reactions about what's gonna happen next... Wednesday is such an interesting and complex character. I believe that she shows her emotion completu differently compared do othersc ... And I love how this story adopt that or even those 'outcasts...' As such as the story or their dynamics Wednesday is true to herself, she's brutally honest but the more I'm watching video here and there and been thinking snout her lr this series Ge more I think she's such a touching character. So Manx aspects are relatable... in way or fascinating... I love your rextiond keep it up, And can't wag go see what you'll see next.
The thing you say about how neurodivergent's people's brain works is very interesting! I'm autistic myself and what I noticed about Wednesday was surprising to me. I could "see" or rather "sense" her emotions thousand times better than the average person. It seemed so much clearer to me to notice what was going on with her, although she hardly smiled etc. It was also much easier to empathise with her for me. When other people cry, smile and so on it is indeed rather unsettling and overwhelming.
Please react to ‘The Fallout’ its a movie (with Jenna Ortega) about a school shooting and how different people experience and work through trauma differently. Its really authentic and I would love to hear your take on it :)
I'm so glad I obsessed with Wednesday, so I got to find this channel, it's just the kind of quirky content I like and it gives me new perspectives on things
when you said "therapy should not be about trying to get someone to fit in a box" oh boy I love it so true... some people in my life think so many things are wrong with me simply because I don't find pleasure in things they enjoy and finally after so many fights I went to therapy and of course I have problems that I know I have but the therapist said I didn't need to go on a regular basis because my issues were not threatening to me and I'm like thank you I knew that lol
I absolutely loveee this psychology series, because Wednesday is my favourite character and I see myself in her :) Gods, now I CAN'T WAIT for the next episodes, I wish they'd come sooner hahah :)
I found out your channel only one week ago because RUclips showed too me your first video of Wednesday and I love It! I signed just now because I dont know why exactly, but I devoured your videos about Arcane and about Max (Stranger Things), which I love so much! And I'm really gratefull that someone can see and understand that Wednesday has emotions but whats with her is that she doesnt understand then! Obs: English isn't my mother language, so, if I wrote something wrong, sorry!!
You can say Neurodivergent. As the Neurodivergent, and especially the Autistic part, community has accepted Wednesday as Autistic. It becomes far more clear as the series progresses. But especially in epesode 4 it really shines through. ☺️ Hope you will be open to see what alot of us see in Wednesday as Austically coded
Yeahhh I agree! The traits this person mentioned really line up with common autistic traits and as an autistic myself I really identify w Wednesday and love how her autistic traits are portrayed less negatively than in some media (ofc there’s always room for development but I’ll take it)
Thank you so much for the last comment about " signs of...". I absolutely hate those influencers that post "signs of adhd" videos that are so generalized. Most of the signs aren't actually signs but they make people think they have adhd or are neurodivergent when they are not, which makes lives of actually neurodivergent people a bit harder.
I'm really enjoying your reactions and I'm glad I found your channel. It would be great if you could include more of your commentary even if you have to cut the Netflix clips associated with it :) Re: "neurodivergent" I think the point of the term is to describe a neurotype that diverges from what is considered normative in society. Though everybody is different, there are definitely people whose neurotypes are considered within the range of "normal" or normative in our society, and people outside of that.
"Honestly, there's a part of me where it's like do I want to say 'neurodivergent'? It's like every single person is actually different, and then you're just categorizing a certain group of people and saying that these are the people that are different from these other people..." Thank you for this. My daughter may be on the autism spectrum, and if she tests as such that will be "good" if it opens up funding sources to help her, but I am not entirely comfortable with putting people in boxes. Especially since I share a number of characteristics associated with autism but probably would not be considered to be on the spectrum. The attention being given to ASD these days is helpful, I think, because it highlights that not everyone's mind operates according to societal expectations; but if it just sets up a different set of expectations for those deemed to belong in the ASD box, I'm not sure how much it's helping those "misfits" either inside or outside the box.
Hello again! This brings me back to the Autism idea - feeling unsettled by seeing other people’s emotions, and maybe not knowing what they mean, or how to respond. Something I’ve also wondered is if Wednesday is masking. She never has meltdowns, which is fascinating. She doesn’t overreact. But she does seem to be fascinated with other people. The odd thing is she doesn’t mask to fit in, but rather to hide from her own emotions. Is that a thing? Autistic behaviour where you mask from yourself? This was a fun episode. I love Thing so much!
Hey everyone! I am LOVING this show. FYI for copyright purposes we have to cut out a lot of our scenes/commentary. If there is something missing from this episode that you'd like me to comment on let me know and I'll try and answer it in the comments. 🖤 👇
Absolutely luv ur take on this show. I Bing watched it in one evening. It's really that good.
i don't mind the cuts, just hearing your thoughts (as a therapist) about the behaviours being displayed in the show is very educational. It's like i'm having a free therapy here 😅
I would love for you to react to hope Mikaelson from legacies,particularly season 4,I think it would be so interesting
i’ve noticed that wednesday doesn’t mind enid touching her but like avoids contact with others. what do you think that means if it even means anything
@@hopeandhugs Hmmm, this is a great question. I'll have to watch for this more. Right now I think I'd say it's because she spends a lot of time with her and feel like she "knows her motives" and personality and so she may be warming up simply due to frequency of contact and lack of conflict.
I realize that wednesday is a huge hit right now, but even with that happening and everybody appreciating this show, I don't think many people have picked up on just how good of an actor Jenna Ortega is, AND, how difficult it is to play a character like wednesday.... Even with all the attention and all the accolades she's getting for her performance, I don't think people have fully grasped exactly HOW FLAWLESSLY she portrays this character, and how unbelievable she is as an actor. This is one of the most under-rated performances of ALL TIME. I do believe people will catch up and pick up on all the nuances before much longer because this show IS so popular and there's so many people commnenting on it...
She. is. so. good. And so young in her career. A blessing!
Wednesday Addams is probably one of the toughest characters to play. All of her emotions have to be subtle enough to not feel out of character, but the viewer still needs to be able to read them. It's a fine balance that you need to find and stay on constantly. I was impressed by how easy Jenna Ortega made it look, particularly during the scenes where other characters say something she doesn't expect, and you can see her processing it internally.
@@bouboulroz Yeah, they could not have cast a better actor for this role... They also couldn't have cast a better role for enid, which is the opposite of wednesday, and just as difficult to play. A character like that is difficult because its so easy to OVER act the excitement and boundless energy, but emma myers plays the part just as good as jenna plays wednesday. It almost sucks that she's a supporting character because inevitably she won't get quite as much recognition because its not enid's show, its wednesdays. But with that said, I am pleasantly surprised at how much buzz emma herself is getting. The two not only do their individual parts so well, they have great screen chemistry. The casting of two flawless actors for two top-tier characters was just as difficult as the performances of the actors for sure.... I can't believe how well they did, and I was already aware of both and knew both had great skill. Speaking of enid, she NAILS that almost "crazy eyed happy" look, which is just as hard as jenna having to do those super subtle emotional expressions. These girls are top notch, work well together, and hopefully, this is just the beginning, and I'd like to see them dual-cast in future stuff. Like, idk, an action spy comedy or a legit horror, or maybe some straight comedy or straight up drama/suspense/thrillers, because these two girls together are certified gold and their talents are unchartable.
@@the.truth.doctor I mentioned this in a comment to someone else, but emma myers is equally good and her character is equally difficult to play. Its almost shameful that she's a supporting actor because she'll likely get somewhat less accolades because of that, but as i said in the other comment i'm pleasantly surprised that emma is getting quite a bit of fanfare. Enid is super difficult. Its HARD to play high energy like that and sell it without overselling it. And that "I just drank 5 diet pepsis and ate a bag of pixie sticks then a half pan of brownies" crazy eyed glassy look she gets, but never TOO much is absolute perfection. She sells it so perfectly and I'd like to see them work together on other projects because their chemistry is as good as their acting.
Imagine thinking nobody is acknowledging that Jenna Ortega has done an amazing job as Wednesday. I haven't seen a single video or piece about to show that doesn't mention it!
I was surprised you skipped what I thought was the most telling line of this episode: “I act as if I don’t care if people dislike me. Deep down… I secretly enjoy it.” If a character tells her something personal, it's almost as if she is compelled to tell them something back...
I caught it :) I loved the line!
I was suprised she skipped it too.
@@the.truth.doctor Your premise that girls or young women are all Taylor Swift does not impress me.
@@the.truth.doctor I was wondering: was she serious or sarcastic? Sometimes it seems impossible to tell. Same with "I heard you killed a boy. - Actually it was two, but who is counting?"
@@TaijDevon huh? Why are you bringing Taylor Swift into this? What did she do?
For someone as transactional and antisocial as Wednesday, her relationship with Enid is fascinating, the two are more or less complete opposites, yet the chemistry between the two are fantastic, and it is worth noting and examining the fact that Wednesday acts differently towards Enid then she does anyone else, I mean Enid is able to call out Wednesday directly and Wednesday actually takes the advice to heart and works to right the wrong, in this case appologising to Thing.
You said transactional. Red flag for dumb person. And a jerk. You really think it is ok to dis someone for having transactions in life? How much money do you make a year? That is not a transaction? Do you pay mortage or rent? Is that not a transaction?
@@TaijDevon bro u completely misunderstood what she said.
@@Awesomesauce1_8_6_4 I understand transactional is a word therapists use to take power over you and abuse you.
Transactional is a way of saying it is your fault if she abuses you. So you are a jerk if fair play is involved. How she has a license it a mystery. If she even has one.
Narcissist Sociopaths try to blame it on you.This seems her game.
Well since you asked stuff I think bears mentioning:
Xavier assuming that Wednesday comment on shooting a bow was sarcasm and proceeding to try to teach basic archery to someone who is a much better archer. Then attempting to make her the center of the class's attention with his spider trick which obviously annoyed her. ( even Thornhill called him out on it ) His attempts to impress Wednesday seem rooted in what impresses other girls. The poor fool.
Eugene being the only one in an extra-circular activity who doesn't condescend to Wednesday. The result being that Wednesday actually shows an interest in beekeeping and may have actually made a friend.
Wednesday giving the most transactional reason for joining the black cats with Enid wanting that reason to be transformational.
I hated that therapist😭she already knew too much about Wednesday before meeting her, crossed boundaries, and just kept trying to one up Wednesday like the sessions are a debate- like guuuurrrl
So glad you're covering this whole show. Your takes add a whole other layer to the series.
Thank you!
Just a worse one.
@@TaijDevon You're entitled to your wrong opinion :)
@@DillonMaynard A lot of facts in your arguement. Lol.
@@DillonMaynard Trump supporter are you?
People tend to express their emotions openly and usually instinctively. It comes naturally and without much control to smile or cry or show distain. Wednesday is the same BUT in reverse. She has the same feelings and desires as everyone else but she instinctively represses them rather then openly showing them. It's as natural for her to not smile or laugh as it is for us to smile or laugh. I can actually relate to this though not to her extreme.
That in mind her emotional responses are almost like reading tells in poker players body language. A subtle head tilt or eyebrow raise for Wednesday can often speak volumes. I find it super fun to watch and try to decipher what's going on in her head.
One example being that Wednesady typically only blinks when she is in uncomfortable situations. Yes that's right if you pay attention she rarely ever blinks. In fact most of her emotional tells come from her eyes and because she rarely blinks her eyes do most of the talking.
Loving your reactions btw.
Yessss, this is a great observation! Thank you.
I love the way you analize Wednesday! I think one thing that woud be awesome is to analize her microexpressions and body lenguage because it's so interesting how even without blinking jenna is able to show so much of what wednesday is feeling.
Added!
*Super agree with this!* 🤩 Jenna's micro-expressions are *THE* thing that's fascinating me the most about this Wednesday and it's such a shame when someone"skips"reacting to those! I mean..I feel her interaction with the therapist so far has been like 30% dialouge,70% micro-expressions!
I relate to both Enid and Wednesday. As a small child I was much more naturally and Enid. But overtime became more and more a Wednesday due to trauma. I don't dislike being a Wednesday sometimes, but have been working on reconnecting with my inner Enid. Fortunately it's going well and feels much better to have balance between both of them.
I say Wednesday things with an Enid affect, which is probably REALLY fun for other people. :D
"For the record, I believe you." That lines hits different having finished the season.
He is such a manipulator
I like adultified characters like Wendsday and Harry Potter. I always felt like adults had this weird blind spot, almost like they were just stupid. They were wedded to whatever assumptions, in complete denial of whatever I had to deal with. Adults are kind of hopeless.
You can have adult neurodivergent characters and it'll be the same. The neurodivergent character, even if an adult, will very often (if not infantalized) by other characters, adults in particular but also sometimes children. As a personal experience, this is also the case living your life as a neurodivergent person. That's because we are much more perceptive about all the BS thrown into our society and we don't want to play by rules that don't even make sense.
Harry Potter and his friends were absolute toddlers, I have no clue what you’re talking about? It’s fine they were little shites, they were teenagers, I just hate people trying to play them off as super adult or moral figures, they were cruel bullies.
I love that you talked about Wednesday and neurodivergence. As an autistic person I really saw myself in a lot of the things Wednesday did, and really identified with her.
People tell me they think I might be on the spectrum, but my diagnoses are Bipolar, avoidant personality disorder and social anxiety, so yeah, might just be that these disorders share a lot of stuff. I too can relate a lot to Wednesday, but I for some reason doesn't like her that much. She's stubborn, she wants things her way always, and she isn't willing to change unless she wants to, and I am exactly that way, and I like being that way, haha, but seeing her be that way for some reason I don't like it that much.
Oh and I am very transactional in the way I interact with people.
@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare hiii! Lots of people are misdiagnosed with other things like bipolar or bpd because professionals aren’t that good at spotting autistic traits when they’re masked or overlapped w trauma, especially in afab people. If you feel like the term fits, then I would encourage you to look into it more! Ofc sometimes the dx was right and the overlap was mimicking the traits too. :)
@@Indigo_Ivy my mom and aunt are bipolar as well, my mom has BPD too, my aunt's son (my cousin) he is on the spectrum. And I heard things like this runs in families. I guess it doesn't matter what I have, I will still always feel like the odd one out or feel weird, and like people don't get me, and be awkward around people, feeling like I can't match their vibe.
Wednesday and Enid are so cute together, their connection is my favourite from the show
I ship Enid and Wednesday. Ensday(?)
@@spamfilter32 wenclair
As someone who has already watched the whole show, some of the comments you make give me a massive appreciation for both the writing & acting, and your observational abilities. Very, VERY subtle character actions you appear to have picked up on become much more important details later in how & why a character is acting the way they are.
Watching the show then coming here to listen to your take on characters makes this show 10 times better for me.
Things about the Wednesday character just makes a lot more sense to me now
Thank you so much! That’s what I hope to bring to you 😊
I appreciate the talk from the 19:47 minute mark to the 20:57 mark and your very great use of neurodivergent. Thank you for describing it so well, I appreciate that it's difficult but that you did such a good job. It is incredibly difficult.
Agreed!
I wish more therapists made videos about shows and movies! One of my favourite reaction videos.
You may already follow them, but other therapists I enjoy are Cinema Therapy, Mended Light, Mickey Atkins, and Dr. Honda. Cinema Therapy especially, as their content is exclusive to movies and shows. I might be missing a few others but those are who popped in my head.
Agreed that a therapist’s perspective really adds to the experience and allows for a deeper understanding and appreciation to the characters and themes. So happy there are therapists who fit this niche on RUclips. 😊
@@English3Muffin I love Cinema Therapy! One of my favourite channels.
Yes but I wish she wasn't horrible, and full of S.
I love your series so far! On the topic of how Wednesday is starting to trust + how you pointed out how she and Enid both held onto the flag at the end, was that there were several times when Enid gave Wednesday casual physical touches (arm over the shoulder or bumping arms as they walk). It's small, but as a character who is known to dislike closeness/intimacy, the act of not rejecting those casual touches sticks out. I have several close friends who are touch repulsed and cannot stand physical touch most days- however, if they are in a positive headspace will be ok with things like fist bumps. It makes those moments more important to me IMO. I also like the more subtle expressions that the show uses with Wednesday- like the calculating pause before she shows her teacher the Nightshades emblem. It fits her character to not be overly expressive, yet they still convey emotion.
Yes yes yes! Please do the whole series 😍😍😍
We will! ❤️
I loved this series and am looking forward to your take. The one point I would contest is that you said Weems assumes the killer isn't someone from the school. I would take it as she's protecting the school at all costs. Both in the sense of protecting her students, and the school's reputation. I would guess that she thinks it could be a student, but would rather handle the matter in house if it is. And if its not a student, she'd rather not attract unnecessary negative attention to the school. It's why she fakes Rowan being alive and discredits Wednesday's claims of there being a monster and pushes the bear attack narrative. Claims of a monster whether its from the school or not, is bad for her, the school, and the students. She's not making assumptions, she's being protective.
IMO Wednesday is very driven & goal oriented. Once she sets her sights on something she won't be deterred. Love your observations & this series.
This videos are making me fall more in love with Jenna's acting. Shes soooo good
I really like how you insisted on the fact that Wednesday is not acting like this because she feels superior to everyone else (if I may add nor even is it out of arrogance). Personally, I feel so connected to Wednesday in the sense that she's a social recluse because she knows that society, even though she's actually harmless, will reject her. For someone like Wednesday, (and myself in a way, since I have always been one of those people engrossed in their studies, have always been the nerd, poly-tongues, polymaths, the pantomath try outs), we know that even if we're trying to give genuine advice that would save someone from a difficult situation, they will NOT listen to us. So, we kind of opt out of the societal system once and for all. The society happens outside of us, as if in a different realm, and we happen outside of it. Consequently, feeling emotions for this entity, that is society, would be a little awkward for us, since we don't exist for the society, and the society does not exist for us. So, yes, all interactions would be transactional. And, if anyone is wondering if our lot still feels like they want to belong somewhere, or with someone, I'd say that as the doctor so accurately put it that we "want to belong, but we don't know where".
Apparently the world needs a whole load of Enids with her accepting, warm, and kind nature for this to happen.
To whoever that might read that extra long comment:
This is, of course, just my opinion and there're NO intentions behind it to generalise.
Following your reactions and takes on this show is truly a blessing. Cuz most of my friends don't actually pick up on the psychological aspect and being so deeper, talkative about this subject is nice in some sense not only share this with you, but experience 'Wednesday'again through similar lens. So thank you, can't wait to follow your whole journey and thoughts for some special future scenes.
Thank you for being here :)
I'm glad I'm not the only one kind of uncomfortable with Neurodivergent. I don't find it insulting or baseless. I find it inaccurate, which is even worse. Once again, I loved your insights.
I’ve just found the term neurominority to be helpful for me as I agree, the spectrum of neurodiversity should include everyone as people have different traits. I like using neurominority better as I feel it portrays this fact a bit better! Hope this helps :)
I’d love to see you touch on Wednesday’s evolving relationship with Enid.
I’m so invested in what you have to say about the psychological aspect of this show
can you talk a but more about Enid’s personality? She has a bubbly personality but I also feel like she is in a way forcing herself to be bubbly sometimes and maybe the reason she likes Wednesday is because she is such a polar opposite to her Enid’s persona and she admires Wednesday for showing traits that the rest of the world perceive as negative.
Absolutely!! Thank you for the suggestion. I will be sure to do this before the end of the season.
Principle Weems telling Wednesday that her mother won that trophy is another reminder to Wednesday that she is living in her mothers shadow. That everything she can achieve at the school, her mother, as a classic overachiever, has already done.
I love watching you break down wensday Addams I just got confused on when you upload and I thought you weren't going to post a video
Thank you! Yes we had a lot of trouble uploading this one because of copyright. Hopefully future episodes will come out a bit sooner! Thank you for waiting and watching. ❤️
Oh my God, your reactions are great!
I know this a fictional character but I feel so much empathy with Wednesday and when I watched your reactions I felt like somebody is really seeing me(her) which never has happened before.
I think she does like people. She's willing to try helping others when she believes them to be helpless or in trouble
Neuroscience is one of my passions. I truly appreciate the time you take to explain topics thoroughly and in simple ways. I'm so glad that I found your channel through this Wednesday series. You're doing great!
That therapists gives a masterclass in gaslightning every session!
Absolutely luv ur take on this show I Bing watched it in one evening. It's a really good show.
I really love that one of the previous Wednesdays plays such a big role in this series.
I would love to see you making videos on the psychology of Tyler. There are so many layers to that character. 🖤
yay so glad you're doing the whole season
I am absolutely loving your commentary. I’m definitely learning so much ❤ can’t wait for next weeks.
6:58: I was waiting for Kurt Angle to pop up outta nowhere & say “Oh, It’s True, It’s Damn True!” 🇺🇸💪🏻💪🏼 🥇 🏆
i love hearing your thoughts on this series! i definitely saw wednesday as neurodivergent- i'm not sure if you got there yet, but the line where weems said to her "not everything is black and white, there are shades of grey" and wednesday replied "not to me" just screamed autistic to me lol and i related to wednesday sm
About a week ago, I binge-watched the entire season in one night. Immediately after, I did a YT search for someone doing a psych profile on Wednesday Addams, but didn't find any. A few days later, your episode 1 video show up in my feed. The fact you are doing it for each episode is just icing on the cake.
Looove seeing the actual psychological background and getting the information. There is so much more behind what we see it’s just the tip of the iceberg. Thanks for taking us under the water to see more of the iceberg!
Wednesday's relationship with her polar opposite in Enid was the unexpected highlight of the show for me, do see if there's something interesting to be said there in future episodes :)
I defo am curious to hear what you think about the Enid/Wednesday dynamic.
her response to her roommate is fascinating, it's her form of tolerance even in complete opposition, She claims things about social media yet has never had a cellphone to experience these things 1st hand
I would like to hear more about the probable ASD in Wednesday. even her dancing looks like stim dancing to me.I think it's very empowering for many people to see their autistic traits they've been rejected for seen as so darkly adorable in Wednesday's character. This show really makes me miss the more authentic Wednesday phases of my younger self. It's interesting you seem critical of her therapist, because the therapy scenes rand very true to my own experiences with therapy. I also have trouble not seeing therapists as "adversaries" when you feel like (probably some of it me projecting, but what it feels like) the therapist os out to prove this feeling different thing is just a facade and/or an illusion and inside you are just like everyone else and if your insights about yourself don't lign up with my theories about all humans I'm going to dismiss them and then therapy becomes a battle ground for your own uniqueness.
The dance moves are mostly from Fosse. Who was into supermodel beautiful people moving aggressivly or strangely...so it's a legit dance style, technically. It's just not...super popular cause the moves are strange. But yeah some of the moves Wednesday chose to use are exact replicas of those dance moves. I know that some people have done side by side comparisons on tiktok and stuff. You can also just see examples of the face style on tiktok and I assume RUclips as well.
I’m glad you mentioned open-ended questions - I’m a teacher and we’re trained never to ask ‘leading’ questions when dealing with any kind of safeguarding with the children. Let the children talk, parrot back what they say for clarification, reassure them that they’re not causing a problem by taking your time.
if you didnt notice, that was Christina Ricci as the librarian. the person whom played wendsday in the 90s movies.
Yay🎉 So glad you’re doing the whole season 🙌🏻
I’ve always been curious about where Wednesday falls on the spectrum from sociopathy to psychopathy, or perhaps something else entirely. You had mentioned examining traits of sociopathy & psychopathy in the first video. Would love to hear the follow up to that!
I love your commentary on the therapist, seeing as you actually are one! I absolutely love therapy and have a great therapist but the one in Wednesday consistently crosses boundaries and is so presumptuous, I'm glad you call out the questionable methods
Hi! I'm a psychology BA, life coach, and applying for an MSW now, and I love (and cant help) to analyze what I watch from a psychological perspective. REALLY enjoying your reactions because it feels like I'd love to watch things with you, I'm learning even more terms and things and getting to rewatch bits of Wednesday which I adored. Binged it in 2 days LOL thanks for this content! I've subscribed and am excited to keep watching these and explore further content of yours :) thanks for what you do!
Thanks for entering the social work field! We need all the help we can get :)
@@the.truth.doctor thats very kind of you to say! :)
One of the things with Wednesday Adams is that she has a very strong sense of justice. So when she said her greatest fear was "doing something terrible" she is being self aware, that she is capable of some dark and terrible things and so she fears that she can violate her own sense of justice. An example of good terrible and unjust terrible is the piranha's in the swimming pool. That was terrible, but it was good terrible because it was in service to justice, those boys had abused her brother. Bad terrible would be her destroying the school, because that would be unjust. Her sense of justice may also be a reason she went after the boy at the fair, to save him, because to let him die as she prophesied, would be unjust, a bad terrible. It is also may play a role in her continued search for him (his body) afterwards, even though he tried to kill her, to allow people to think he is still alive when she knows he is dead is itself unjust. Her sense of justice also plays a role in her writing, as in writing mystery novels, which are also about justice. No one is the villain in their own story, and so that is Wednesdays fear, becoming the villain of her own story.
I really enjoy this series about the mind of Wednesday. I have watched the series twice now, and to get insights from a professional doctor about her behavior and mindset just makes the episodes and her character so much more understandable.
I'm absolutely loving this series! You explain things so clearly and respectfully, and I can't wait to see what you think of the rest of the series. As someone who's much more of an Enid myself, I would love your thoughts on how her and Wednesday are foils to each other's characters and the intricacies of their relationship as you move through the episodes. I absolutely love their dynamic and would love to hear what you think of it!
The fact that as a Scorpio I relate to her life is crazy.
And now your explanation proves that everything I’ve been going through in my life!
My friends and I absolutely loved this show, and Jenna was the perfect actor for the role!! Thanks for covering this :D
Keep analyzing Wednesday!! Understanding Wednesday
internally and professionally is soo cool
I love every single one of your reactions to wednesday so far!!! this is one of the shows that is sooo good to make a psycologic examination and you do it so smoothly. Besides I love that you are actually adoring the show!!!
I really love your reactions to this. They are so educational and very accurate which makes them more enjoyable. You sure seem like an outstanding professional in your field. Looking forward to episode 3
I appreciate this comment. Thank you!
What I found interesting was that Wednesday said “If *you* would regect me.”
As in, “I don’t care about you. But if Enid or my brother were to reject me, I would be upset.”
Something I like that they do with the therapist to make you kind of hate her is the way the camera is so zoomed in on her. It makes her seem very aggressive and up in your space.
I just wanted to say that as someone who would like to one day be an expression/art therapist, I really appreciate you dissection of shows, I also dissect things like this, but I feel like I’m learning in every one of your videos, or at least I feel like some of the ideas I’ve toyed with in my head are validated.
It's curious how you omitted the scenes where Wednesday and Enid have interactions... since those are the scenes where that transactional behavior turns into a transformative one...
She says in a pinned comment above she literally HAD to cut out a lot of scenes due to copyright issues. So there was a lot of stuff she didn't want to have to cut out but ended up having to so that everyone can watch the video.
Thank you so much for touching on the subject of neurodivergence (and also those ridiculous "5 signs you have adhd" articles etc) - it frustrates me to no end to see these things being thrown around and thrust upon people who are perceived as "different" when people can be different for so many different reasons. When I was a child I had the term "Asperger's Syndrome" thrown at me by the adults...then I grew up, turned into an adult myself and tossed that phrase aside because it turned out to be inaccurate and more damaging than anything else. I would rather if people had seen me as the person I really was, rather than throwing generalisations at me that didn't ultimately fit, because it messed with my head a lot.
A lot of us neurodivergent people prefer this term because the alternative is often words like weirdoes, freaks or even the r-word. Neurodivergent is not so much a thing to put people into boxes, as it is a way to *not* decide on who in society gets to be "normal" hence why it more so refers to the way brain neurons interact.
As a someone who correlate themselves with wednesday you are helping me to understand myself. Thank you.
I definitely wanna see more stuff that goes deeper into wednesday’s and enids relationship, bc they’re polar opposites yet wednesday seems the most comfortable around her (letting enid touch her, taking her advice, etc) thank u!
I get what you're saying about neurodivergence. But I'm pretty certain Wednesday is deliberately written as Autistic. Tim Burton is self diagnosed Autistic so I don't think any of these "hints" are accidental - he knows enough about neurodivergence to recognise it in him self. Wednesdays core strengths and weakness in the show all have a root in Autistic traits and the plot is driven by her sense of justice. It also makes sense why she doesn't yield to the social pressure to conform, it doesn't occur to her that she should pretend she didn't see what she saw. She knows what she was and that's that.
There's a line in a later episode that really cements it for me. "it’s not my fault I can’t decipher your emotional morse code".
wednesday addams being lowkey soft with her new friends???? give me more
I think part of the reason that she showed her Dorm mother the photo off the bat is that she feels like the dorm mother accepts Wednesday for how she is. If you think back to the introduction the mother gives Wednesday a black dahlia and tells her that she likes to pick flowers that match the girls. Wednesday seemed intrigued and seemed to really appreciate the sentiment. I think that made her feel safe with her.
Tyler: "I believe you"
Me seeing this scene for the second time and knowing why: 😮
I remember going to a therapist at my university he got frustrated in the end for many of the same reasons but I wasn't there because I wanted to be. So in hindsight I think it didn't work out for many of the same reasons. He also was new to the job to so I think it was half and half.
Just found this channel as i was searching reactions to Wedensday that coalesced with my desire to hear something not being spoken about..if that makes sense.. I'm going to finish your series but wanted to pop in and say thanks... you've said a lot of thing's already that I've been needing to hear for 39 year's... I'd never have imagined a show and a random youtuber would make me think so deeply as to post a thank you message..yet here we are. Madness. Thanks.
WHEN YOU LOOK BACK ON TIME THESE ARE CLASSICS.......
I'm so excited to go on this watch journey with you! It'll be my rewatch of the season, so can't wait to see what you analyze!
I am intrigued by the scene when Weems tells Wednesday that Morticia was captain of the rowing team and won the Poe Cup four times and that she was her copilot. I’m curious about a few things. Does Weems see a parallel between her competitive relationship with Morticia and the relationship of Wednesday & Enid? Does Weems secretly hate Wednesday simply because she is Morticia’s daughter? I don’t think so, I think Weems likes Wednesday but isn’t about to tell her that. What are your thoughts?
I just binged the show (no spoilers I promise) and happened to stumble across this channel and watched your two episodes covering Wednesday so far and I love this! Can't wait to watch more
It caught me off guard when kinbott asked Wednesday is she was doing it for attention, cuz therapists aren’t supposed to say things like that. They’re supposed to help u and that doesn’t help anyone saying that.
You make very interesting analysis. And it would be interesting to hear not only about Wednesday, but also about other characters
Definitely on my calendar now, I love your insight on this series. Wednesday Addams is such an important character to me. I grew up watching the 90s films and because of my obsession with those as a kid my parents also introduced me to the 60s sitcom. I love this family and Wednesday especially because I was an outcast and frankly I still am. I always wished to be like her, not caring about what other people think. I am neurodiverse and only got my diagnosis two years ago at the age of 22. I am trans and also on the aroace spec. And Wednesday has just been a character I found comfort in, Jenna really did an amazing job and I cannot wait to watch you break down the rest of the episodes because so far your analysis of her character has been so comforting if that makes sense. I know a younger me would've been so happy to have had this representation, especially as latinx, I really hope they continue it. Thank you!
I would be very interested in your opinion on Enid and Wednesday’s dynamic!
This is on my schedule!! Love how you are explaining everything, so easy to digest. Have a kid who is going through social difficulties “nuerotypical” this is relatable ❤
The thing that amazed me about Jenna Ortega's portrayal of Wednesday Addams, is how much she can show Wednesday's inner thoughts and feelings with nothing more than her eyes. The deadpan stares that cut away anytime she hears something that threatens to put a crack in her inner defenses. The quick look away while she processes the threat and repairs the damage, then right back to the stare. It actually made me wonder if her eye movement was something written in as dialogue in the script, if it was coached by Tim Burton, or if it was just Ortega's interpretation. Whatever the case, it was brilliant. In one interview I saw before I watched it, Jenna said Tim wanted it so the viewer never saw Wednesday blink, and if she did blink it was to signify that something had moved her WAY out of her comfort zone. She said she got really good at going a really long time without blinking. So I watched the whole series to see if I ever saw her blink in a normal scene, and she never does
I took intensive group therapy. For the most part, it was pretty great, but when you're talking about the therapist making assumptions and redirecting the conversation towards those assumptions, I was reminded of the time that the therapists kept pushing me and pushing me into admitting to feeling something I was just not feeling just because people who could relate, felt those things. No, their stories are different than mine, I can relate to them in many ways and I get why they could relate to me but I simply did NOT feel what they assumed I should be feeling. I'm still kind of salty about it since I never got to address how I felt pressured and almost gaslighted by the therapists.
I'm enjoying so much to see your comment and your reactions and I am so excited to see your reactions about what's gonna happen next...
Wednesday is such an interesting and complex character. I believe that she shows her emotion completu differently compared do othersc ...
And I love how this story adopt that or even those 'outcasts...'
As such as the story or their dynamics
Wednesday is true to herself, she's brutally honest but the more I'm watching video here and there and been thinking snout her lr this series Ge more I think she's such a touching character. So Manx aspects are relatable... in way or fascinating...
I love your rextiond keep it up,
And can't wag go see what you'll see next.
Thank you so much!
The thing you say about how neurodivergent's people's brain works is very interesting! I'm autistic myself and what I noticed about Wednesday was surprising to me. I could "see" or rather "sense" her emotions thousand times better than the average person. It seemed so much clearer to me to notice what was going on with her, although she hardly smiled etc. It was also much easier to empathise with her for me. When other people cry, smile and so on it is indeed rather unsettling and overwhelming.
Please react to ‘The Fallout’ its a movie (with Jenna Ortega) about a school shooting and how different people experience and work through trauma differently. Its really authentic and I would love to hear your take on it :)
Did she do a video on this yet? That would be great.
I'm so glad I obsessed with Wednesday, so I got to find this channel, it's just the kind of quirky content I like and it gives me new perspectives on things
when you said "therapy should not be about trying to get someone to fit in a box" oh boy I love it so true... some people in my life think so many things are wrong with me simply because I don't find pleasure in things they enjoy and finally after so many fights I went to therapy and of course I have problems that I know I have but the therapist said I didn't need to go on a regular basis because my issues were not threatening to me and I'm like thank you I knew that lol
I absolutely loveee this psychology series, because Wednesday is my favourite character and I see myself in her :) Gods, now I CAN'T WAIT for the next episodes, I wish they'd come sooner hahah :)
I found out your channel only one week ago because RUclips showed too me your first video of Wednesday and I love It! I signed just now because I dont know why exactly, but I devoured your videos about Arcane and about Max (Stranger Things), which I love so much! And I'm really gratefull that someone can see and understand that Wednesday has emotions but whats with her is that she doesnt understand then!
Obs: English isn't my mother language, so, if I wrote something wrong, sorry!!
Welcome aboard!
You can say Neurodivergent. As the Neurodivergent, and especially the Autistic part, community has accepted Wednesday as Autistic.
It becomes far more clear as the series progresses. But especially in epesode 4 it really shines through. ☺️ Hope you will be open to see what alot of us see in Wednesday as Austically coded
Yeahhh I agree! The traits this person mentioned really line up with common autistic traits and as an autistic myself I really identify w Wednesday and love how her autistic traits are portrayed less negatively than in some media (ofc there’s always room for development but I’ll take it)
Thank you so much for the last comment about " signs of...". I absolutely hate those influencers that post "signs of adhd" videos that are so generalized. Most of the signs aren't actually signs but they make people think they have adhd or are neurodivergent when they are not, which makes lives of actually neurodivergent people a bit harder.
I'm really enjoying your reactions and I'm glad I found your channel. It would be great if you could include more of your commentary even if you have to cut the Netflix clips associated with it :)
Re: "neurodivergent" I think the point of the term is to describe a neurotype that diverges from what is considered normative in society. Though everybody is different, there are definitely people whose neurotypes are considered within the range of "normal" or normative in our society, and people outside of that.
"Honestly, there's a part of me where it's like do I want to say 'neurodivergent'? It's like every single person is actually different, and then you're just categorizing a certain group of people and saying that these are the people that are different from these other people..." Thank you for this. My daughter may be on the autism spectrum, and if she tests as such that will be "good" if it opens up funding sources to help her, but I am not entirely comfortable with putting people in boxes. Especially since I share a number of characteristics associated with autism but probably would not be considered to be on the spectrum. The attention being given to ASD these days is helpful, I think, because it highlights that not everyone's mind operates according to societal expectations; but if it just sets up a different set of expectations for those deemed to belong in the ASD box, I'm not sure how much it's helping those "misfits" either inside or outside the box.
Hello again!
This brings me back to the Autism idea - feeling unsettled by seeing other people’s emotions, and maybe not knowing what they mean, or how to respond. Something I’ve also wondered is if Wednesday is masking. She never has meltdowns, which is fascinating. She doesn’t overreact. But she does seem to be fascinated with other people. The odd thing is she doesn’t mask to fit in, but rather to hide from her own emotions. Is that a thing? Autistic behaviour where you mask from yourself? This was a fun episode. I love Thing so much!
Most of my life i have struggled with wanting to belong somewhere but not finding somewhere to belong
I saw that the only times she’s caught blinking is when she’s emotionally vulnerable