@@TheBasketballBulletin classic case of an agent doing too much. Granted people could say the same for Pat Riley…. Ya’ll remember the just be quiet comments? A storm was brewing
In his agents defense he likely had to say that. This whole thing is a dance that agents and management do. Mgmt: we are not trying to trade the player actually we love them.. 2 weeks later player traded lol
@@TheinsideoutsiderI’m sorry but you don’t see other agents hoping on Twitter and going after Shams directly like that. No doubt agents leak stuff but they usually push the narratives thru other media outlets. Not live and direct like in this case. Imagine if Rich Paul went on a Twitter rant like that 🤣
It's obviously going to be a 3 Team trade that works for all parties. Their hoping to have completed by the time his suspension from the Heat is done. Jimmy's 50 Million requires too many players from just one organization.
He also got a pass for poorly handling Leaving the lakers as a coach , where he burnt a bridge with the Knicks in a super underhanded unprofessional way in route to the heat .
Why does Miami have to make a deal who’s always been problematic wherever he goes. You don’t do a deal just to make him happy. If something doesn’t happen don’t play him for the rest of the season and start again next season. I’m sick of these Prima-Donna’s. They’re killing the nba.
Warriors are not giving the Heat Jonathan Kuminga in any trade for Butler. Even parting with a package that includes Wiggins, Schroder, Podziemski and Payton probably doesn’t make them appreciably better than they are now because Butler just isn’t that good anymore. And of course if he opts out and leaves then you’ve just given away all your assets for nothing. The Warriors are probably happy to let Jimmy and the Heat stew in this mess and not get involved.
You might be right you might be wrong. JK wants a max... I don't think GSW wants to pay him that or deal with that headache. They want to win now that Stephen is still playing at a high level. Win now situation
Im so tired of Miami believing theyre better than they are. They won 1 chip with wade and if it wasnt for lebron choosing to go there thats all they would have had. They lucked into 2 finals runs that everyone knew they had zero chance to win. Derail what season, Miami is a mod team that would be lucky to get out of the play in
I went to the trade machine and even with Wiggins contract the Warriors have to move 4 players out to get Butler. The Heat don't have that roster space. That means a third party needs to get involved. That also means draft compensation. I think a Warriors deal is going to be really hard to pull off.
Yeah it's really hard to pull this trade off mid season. To try and match up the salaries perfectly to where neither team takes back any amount of money is nearly impossible. Miami or GSW would have to first trade off a player to a team with cap space so they can buy that player out( which would involve someone giving up a 2nd pick) and then some trade scenarios can take place. Wiggins, buddy, gp2 and maybe Podz 😂
So the team that trades for Butler is willing to bet he will not sabotage the team mid year. Like what he did with the Bulls, Wolves, Sixers, Heat. Like how many chances does this dude get. He is not going to change and this will turn badly to anyone who bets on Butler
This is nuts! Miami really only has 2 options due to that horrid Butler’s contract. The Suns can only do Beal and Miami would rather eat Butler’s contract. The Warriors would be losing their second best player, Wiggins, their third in Kuminga (too much future) or a bunch with Green. If I am GS, no matter what, I want plenty of draft picks to relieve Miami if the very old Butler that has taken every team down in flames he has played for. Night-Night Curry if that happens!
@zackneskov2006 Ah but the difference is his age and the CBA. He got away with doing this stuff before because he was a great player and the old CBA allowed teams to pay him whatever they wanted. NOW the CBA is different and he's declining - most teams will just say no thanks to a $50M diva player option.
@ The Heat culture is real and a fat ass like Shaq couldn't handle it, plus he played for six teams...so there's that... The Heat wanted to get Shaq out asap. Forcing his way out of LA was a dumb move and Shaq has said as much. LeBron left for what I think were immature reasons at the time and I'm a Lakers and LeBron fan. Glad he won in Cleveland, though he left the Heat on bad terms. He at least could've let them sign and trade him, rather than leading Riley to believe he would stay for "not six, not seven, not eight..."
They should of traded him in the offseason lol while his value was still high and who’s trading for jimmy when he wont sign an extension with the TEAM lol pat tripping and they wont get those better deals they could of got if he was traded in the offseason
It's Crazy how yall forgot this man took a Bad team to the Finals damn near 3 times in the last few seasons literally the only reason we believed in the Heat smh yall so unloyal
Trade him to Houston for Van Fleet and a first. van fleet only has a team option left, if Miami wants to cut bait after they can. You can also explore a deal with Pelicans for Ingram or Zion.
Butler isn’t going to get traded because the Heat will benefit more from letting him walk after the season. The trade offers will be paltry at best. I doubt Pat Riley will give him away, just to cut ties early.
Kuminga is a FUTURE star but right now, he's not all that. JBut could jump in with Steph and make some stuff happen. He won't go forever but for a couple years, there's a chance to put the Dubs into the finals.
Oh boy...hear comes the good ol boys.. blackballed...A black man defending himself ...is a no no..in this good ol boys Network....ask LBJ ..and Mark Jackson.
Trev great content, but when you say this is not Heat culture you are wrong. Please look at how Heat parted ways with D-wade, LeBron and Shaq the three best players in Heat history. D-Wade got low balled on his deal and had to leave hat in hand, Shaq got shoved out for insubordination, LeBron was told leaving would ruin him, that The Heat were his salvation and source of his success. Heat culture is to part with their super stars bitterly. Sorry.
It’s a fair point. Maybe it’s not what they want to build moving forward, but they definitely don’t seem interested in paying Jimmy for what he’s already done, like some teams do with the last deal they give their stars
Heat fan here. Dwade took less money from Chicago then what miami was offering. Dwade was pass his prime and so was Shaq. LeBron left to go back to cavs because home is where the heart is
I was pretty young when Pat Riley went on that rant on LeBron but it always stuck out to me. LeBron was the face of league and clearly the League’s best player (debate a wall if you disagree Miami LeBron was Prime LeBron) and Pat thought he could strong arm him. It was so wild lol.
I'm sorry I'm not trade for him at all he is too old his injury prone he cost too much he want a big ass extension you have to give up your important assets young players to get him I'm sorry
The NBA is becoming a stupid soap opera. Each year it is more about individuals and less about team. You can enjoy all the trades you want. I'm tired of the league flipping every 6 months. This is becoming a sport of rental builds.
A 35 year old player who is intentionally sabotaging his own team for personal gain. Yeah that's a great trade target. I look forward to seeing which dumb team will fall for it.
Oh wow! You know Jimmy Butler. Does he come over and hang out with you at your mom’s house?!? That’s so great. What else is he saying, for example, where does he secretly want to get traded to? Do y’all have matching BFF necklaces, or is it “non platonic,” wink wink? Oh wait, you’re a nobody and JB doesn’t give a $hit about you!
guaranteed contracts in sports are scam. thats why players are behaving like petulant child pushing for money and more money and playing less. follow european football, when you move to another team you cancel the previous contract and negotiate a new one. it’s pathetic that a player can sign 4 year deal 50 million each and the day after he can do absolutely anything with no consequences and the next team will have to honor the guaranteed money? what kind of joke and out of reality world nba live in?
Apparently Jimmy has been boycotting the Team for a while. It is not new. His numbers were awful at the end of last season and this year they have not improved. Riley knows what he is doing, just wait and see.
Lakers need not want to trade for a jimmy butler!! We have enough issues as is
@@ashez45ify JB, LeBron, AD . DSF. Make the lakers a champion caliber team.
lol imagine Butler and Draymond beefing😂
I have no horse in this race but imagine if Shams @‘d Jimmy’s agent like “what you got to say now?”
Right? Shams has to be doing the Vince McMahon walk right now
@@TheBasketballBulletin classic case of an agent doing too much. Granted people could say the same for Pat Riley…. Ya’ll remember the just be quiet comments? A storm was brewing
In his agents defense he likely had to say that. This whole thing is a dance that agents and management do. Mgmt: we are not trying to trade the player actually we love them.. 2 weeks later player traded lol
@@TheinsideoutsiderI’m sorry but you don’t see other agents hoping on Twitter and going after Shams directly like that. No doubt agents leak stuff but they usually push the narratives thru other media outlets. Not live and direct like in this case. Imagine if Rich Paul went on a Twitter rant like that 🤣
Probably fits Houston culture
Why don't they just trade em for BI
Last game of 7 game suspension is against the Lakers in LA on ESPN LMAO
And JJ balling as coach
It's obviously going to be a 3 Team trade that works for all parties. Their hoping to have completed by the time his suspension from the Heat is done. Jimmy's 50 Million requires too many players from just one organization.
Pat Riley and Danny Ainge will put Jimmy into exile. That’s all I will say.
Shams needs an apology from jimmys agent
Pat Riley has gotten a pass for mishandling some major player relationships. How did you let Dwade ever have to leave to get paid .
that and people don’t remember when Riley got all worked up at a press conference before LeBron went back to Cleveland in 2016…..
It’s been so many player stories come out about how Pat kept pissing Bron off .
He also got a pass for poorly handling Leaving the lakers as a coach , where he burnt a bridge with the Knicks in a super underhanded unprofessional way in route to the heat .
That whole org is overrated.
@@rodh-ww6iiprobably got mad upset Lebron and D Wade got more credit for them Miami Championships
Why does Miami have to make a deal who’s always been problematic wherever he goes. You don’t do a deal just to make him happy. If something doesn’t happen don’t play him for the rest of the season and start again next season. I’m sick of these Prima-Donna’s. They’re killing the nba.
Pat on his period 🤣🤣🤣😭😭
Is he? So far it’s Jimmy publicly on his period for weeks
@AntcmbHeat 😭🤣😭 Pat been on his shihh since bron in dwade🤣😭
@ really? Elaborate
@@AntcmbHeat yea
Misogyny much?
Beal is even worse than Jimmy😂😂, why do people keep associating him to the heat. No one wants beal period!!!!
Lakers Should go for Fox, 27, $32 mil over Butler, 35, $48 mil, and Injury Prone 🏀🏆
Warriors are not giving the Heat Jonathan Kuminga in any trade for Butler. Even parting with a package that includes Wiggins, Schroder, Podziemski and Payton probably doesn’t make them appreciably better than they are now because Butler just isn’t that good anymore. And of course if he opts out and leaves then you’ve just given away all your assets for nothing. The Warriors are probably happy to let Jimmy and the Heat stew in this mess and not get involved.
You might be right you might be wrong. JK wants a max... I don't think GSW wants to pay him that or deal with that headache. They want to win now that Stephen is still playing at a high level. Win now situation
I sneakily see a deal where he swaps places with Zach Lavine
Jimmy Butler and Duncan Robinson going to Brooklyn for Cam Johnson and Ben Simmons
It is crazy how many teams he has been on and it’s almost always a trade
Im so tired of Miami believing theyre better than they are. They won 1 chip with wade and if it wasnt for lebron choosing to go there thats all they would have had. They lucked into 2 finals runs that everyone knew they had zero chance to win. Derail what season, Miami is a mod team that would be lucky to get out of the play in
you're trying so hard to seem edgy, what is your favorite team?
@farasty7371 there's nothing edgy about that comment. It's the truth. I'm a laker fan
Shaq*
I went to the trade machine and even with Wiggins contract the Warriors have to move 4 players out to get Butler. The Heat don't have that roster space. That means a third party needs to get involved. That also means draft compensation. I think a Warriors deal is going to be really hard to pull off.
Yeah it's really hard to pull this trade off mid season.
To try and match up the salaries perfectly to where neither team takes back any amount of money is nearly impossible.
Miami or GSW would have to first trade off a player to a team with cap space so they can buy that player out( which would involve someone giving up a 2nd pick) and then some trade scenarios can take place.
Wiggins, buddy, gp2 and maybe Podz 😂
What have you got against GS?
So the team that trades for Butler is willing to bet he will not sabotage the team mid year. Like what he did with the Bulls, Wolves, Sixers, Heat. Like how many chances does this dude get. He is not going to change and this will turn badly to anyone who bets on Butler
This is nuts! Miami really only has 2 options due to that horrid Butler’s contract. The Suns can only do Beal and Miami would rather eat Butler’s contract. The Warriors would be losing their second best player, Wiggins, their third in Kuminga (too much future) or a bunch with Green. If I am GS, no matter what, I want plenty of draft picks to relieve Miami if the very old Butler that has taken every team down in flames he has played for. Night-Night Curry if that happens!
I'll say it again to those who didn't believe me the very first time I said it. What Jimmy does make him look bad and childish!
Bro where you been? He did this to Chicago, minn, and philly
@zackneskov2006 Ah but the difference is his age and the CBA. He got away with doing this stuff before because he was a great player and the old CBA allowed teams to pay him whatever they wanted. NOW the CBA is different and he's declining - most teams will just say no thanks to a $50M diva player option.
Yes it does. He's now going to a fifth franchise and it never ends well. He's 35 and no team will pay him the max. He's now in the Harden zone.
Miami wears thin on players because Pat Riley acts like a dictator. Shaq forced his way out, LeBron left and now JB.
@ The Heat culture is real and a fat ass like Shaq couldn't handle it, plus he played for six teams...so there's that... The Heat wanted to get Shaq out asap. Forcing his way out of LA was a dumb move and Shaq has said as much. LeBron left for what I think were immature reasons at the time and I'm a Lakers and LeBron fan. Glad he won in Cleveland, though he left the Heat on bad terms. He at least could've let them sign and trade him, rather than leading Riley to believe he would stay for "not six, not seven, not eight..."
Theyll lose him for nothing after this season. They want to much for Jimmy Butler.
They should of traded him in the offseason lol while his value was still high and who’s trading for jimmy when he wont sign an extension with the TEAM lol pat tripping and they wont get those better deals they could of got if he was traded in the offseason
It's Crazy how yall forgot this man took a Bad team to the Finals damn near 3 times in the last few seasons literally the only reason we believed in the Heat smh yall so unloyal
Bad team? Bro Caleb Martin almost won ECFMVP over Butler. Stop bs, Miami had players.
Butler only option is GSW, Hornets or Nets. I'm leaning Nets. They have two expiring deals that can get the deal done.
The spurs or Grizzlies
Trade him to Houston for Van Fleet and a first. van fleet only has a team option left, if Miami wants to cut bait after they can. You can also explore a deal with Pelicans for Ingram or Zion.
I remember hearing (SOME) heat fans saying he was a better forward for the Heat then Bron🤷🏽♂️
That's ridiculous! The Heat fans are dumb.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Lmao that’s foul
Butler isn’t going to get traded because the Heat will benefit more from letting him walk after the season. The trade offers will be paltry at best. I doubt Pat Riley will give him away, just to cut ties early.
That's they problem. We not trading kuminga.
Jimmy to the sixers, pg to the warriors, kuminga Wiggins and kj Martin to the heat
Hes orchestrating a buyout so a trade doesnt weaken the team he goes to, mark my words
trev why you wearing the same shirt?
Grabbed the closest shirt and hit record
Why the heck would heat not do Lavine for Jimmy? Great for both teams. Bulls want cap freedom. So jimmy can opt out no problem. Heat want talent.
Jimmy to Mem for
Smart, Clarke, V Williams & 1st and some seconds
Mem needs to be in win now mode
Jimmy fits grit and grind
Heat Culture has a shelf life.
Pat Riley is getting too old I wouldn’t want to work with that guy.
There is no heat culture. They only win with great players.
@@Jevonicoleman nobody wins without great players 😂
Warriors don’t need Butler.
Kudos to Pat Riley to say no to player enpowerment. Butler don't call the shots and dictate where he wants to play, well deserved suspension.
Who wants to give this guy a max contract if he continues to behave like this
also, he's old as dirt
Heat hung onto this cancer too long. Doubtful trade partner due to bad 💰 GSW would be better dealing with tanking East.
Jimmy is in his EMO stage…🤣
always been emo
Jimmy and James Harden are a lot alike.
Why did the first image have a black man then it switched to a white man talking?
Kuminga is a FUTURE star but right now, he's not all that. JBut could jump in with Steph and make some stuff happen. He won't go forever but for a couple years, there's a chance to put the Dubs into the finals.
Sacramento
The clippers,the suns,and maybe Dallas would fall for it
No one is above the great game
LeQueen James is
buy out market and back to the Bulls
Jimmy wants to be a lakers
Okc receives Jimmy Butler if they smart or Dallas, Golden State is not good enough to win a championship with jimmy butler.
Jimmy Butler could be traded to the Philadelphia 76ers and played with his pal Joel Embiid again.
It can happen?!!
Oh boy...hear comes the good ol boys.. blackballed...A black man defending himself ...is a no no..in this good ol boys Network....ask LBJ ..and Mark Jackson.
Trev great content, but when you say this is not Heat culture you are wrong. Please look at how Heat parted ways with D-wade, LeBron and Shaq the three best players in Heat history. D-Wade got low balled on his deal and had to leave hat in hand, Shaq got shoved out for insubordination, LeBron was told leaving would ruin him, that The Heat were his salvation and source of his success. Heat culture is to part with their super stars bitterly. Sorry.
It’s a fair point. Maybe it’s not what they want to build moving forward, but they definitely don’t seem interested in paying Jimmy for what he’s already done, like some teams do with the last deal they give their stars
Heat fan here. Dwade took less money from Chicago then what miami was offering. Dwade was pass his prime and so was Shaq. LeBron left to go back to cavs because home is where the heart is
I was pretty young when Pat Riley went on that rant on LeBron but it always stuck out to me. LeBron was the face of league and clearly the League’s best player (debate a wall if you disagree Miami LeBron was Prime LeBron) and Pat thought he could strong arm him. It was so wild lol.
I'm sorry I'm not trade for him at all he is too old his injury prone he cost too much he want a big ass extension you have to give up your important assets young players to get him I'm sorry
The NBA is becoming a stupid soap opera. Each year it is more about individuals and less about team. You can enjoy all the trades you want. I'm tired of the league flipping every 6 months. This is becoming a sport of rental builds.
A 35 year old player who is intentionally sabotaging his own team for personal gain. Yeah that's a great trade target. I look forward to seeing which dumb team will fall for it.
Dont mess with pat riley
Pat Riley really thinks Jimmy cares gor this ? He gonna enjoy the vacation 😂😂😂
Oh wow! You know Jimmy Butler. Does he come over and hang out with you at your mom’s house?!? That’s so great. What else is he saying, for example, where does he secretly want to get traded to? Do y’all have matching BFF necklaces, or is it “non platonic,” wink wink?
Oh wait, you’re a nobody and JB doesn’t give a $hit about you!
guaranteed contracts in sports are scam. thats why players are behaving like petulant child pushing for money and more money and playing less. follow european football, when you move to another team you cancel the previous contract and negotiate a new one. it’s pathetic that a player can sign 4 year deal 50 million each and the day after he can do absolutely anything with no consequences and the next team will have to honor the guaranteed money? what kind of joke and out of reality world nba live in?
Hard to give a shit about a guy that's just gonna get hurt in the playoffs
Butler to the clippers for Norman Powell , bone hyland, p j tucker , Terrance Mann , and two 2nd . Win win for both teams
"hEaT cUlTuRe"
Hachimura, Vando, Vincent, and JHF plus two second round picks.
lololol. Miami is not stupid. Lakers have a trash team except for LePeds and AD
Jimmy for Vando and Gabe
Trev the Lakers need him
Would be a good basketball fit , unfortunately with his salary you’d have to gut the team .
Nope.. not at that figure
@@rodh-ww6iicould they give up Austin, Rui and a first rounder for him?
@@isaiahkidd4108why would you give up Austin? 🤣
@ for a chip! Now or never
Apparently Jimmy has been boycotting the Team for a while. It is not new. His numbers were awful at the end of last season and this year they have not improved. Riley knows what he is doing, just wait and see.