Everyone talking about the Penelope part but Im over here crying about "Where is he? Where is the man who larger than life? Where is he? Where is the man who was sharp as a knife" Ive watched a lot of my relatives suffer from dementia and just.... where are they.
A number of Jorge’s early cut song drafts have more of a Hamilton vibe than the final product, it’s very interesting, though some of that influence did sneak back in on the final versions of parts of the Wisdom Saga, for better or for worse.
Laertes: Yes son, my time is near. Quick, take up the throne! *Proceeds to live 40 more years* If I didn't know better, it looks like he just put off the job into his son, so he could chill with his own wife. He IS Odysseus' father after all.
When I heard this melody in Legendary I was so hype realizing he took the spirit of this cut song and put it into this one 🥲👍 welcome back, our glorious champion 🗣️🔥💯
I’ve been dreaming for him to make a musical about the Trojan war which is a prequel to Epic. I could see some foreshadowing to the odyssey in it since odysseus is in both stories. It would also make Epic better because then we’d feel more pain knowing how long he was away from home.
@@RacketEPIC Oh my gosh, another Hazbin Hotel fan! I love the Emily pfp. Also, yeah it probably will return in Song 40 in some form. Can't wait for the Ithaca Saga to come out.
Yeah I know this sounds a lot like Hamilton and you can see the inspiration there, but I really wished that the first half of Man of The House would become its own song. Honestly, the lines "Where is the man who was larger than life? Where is the man who was sharp as a knife?" Are fucking fire and show perfectly how our parents (who used to be invincible heroes) slowly transform in front of us into just what everyone is: human.
@@leonglitch when I turned nine My dad pulled me aside and said son I'm going insano, I heard it The same melody from When The Witch turn men into pigs to protect her nymphs is dhe going insane
This was reused into a part of Legendary! “Where is he, where is the man who was larger than life?” turns into “Where is he, where is the man who’ll have you to wife?”
Ah, my favourite scrapped song in Epic, and clearly one of the most popular one, and also clearly the most beloved by Jorge himself judging by how this is the only song to have it's lyrics be incorporated into 3 canonical songs (Song 26, 36, 38)
When I turned nine, my dad pulled me aside and said "Son, I'm going insane I'm losing my mind, don't have too much time and soon you'll take over my reign Your cunningness will make you tough, cause bravery is not enough" I could tell his time was getting shorter, his voice was getting weak, he could barely speak And all I could think was Where is he? Where is the man who was larger than life? Where is he? Where is the man who was sharp as a knife? Cause in my darkest days, the pain was our drive Time is fleeting, it's running out Time to be the man of the house At the age of thirteen, I began the third king of Ithaca and did it with pride The years passed by and it clearly was time for me to find a faithful bride Everybody wanted Helen of Sparta, I wanted someone smarter Part of her family tree was the girl for me A girl I would give the world to see (Penelope) She made every heart in our vicinity soar, felt like infinity roars She was the first thing I had an affinity for She's what I saved my virginity for Oh, she was the cleverest girl I'd ever seen Articulate, serene, the wittiness of my dreams, I wanted to scream And long before we had a chance to meet I knew we were thinking the same thing, we were wondering [ODYSSEUS, PENELOPE, BOTH] Where is he? Where is the man who'll have you to wife? (Where is the man who'll have me to wife?) Where is he? Where is the man with whom you'll spend your life (Where is the man with whom I'll spend my life?) Cause in my darkest days (Cause in our darkest days) Penelope's my drive (Penelope's his drive) Time is fleeting, it's running out Time to be the man of the house
It’s so cool how this one song was chopped up and used for like 3 or 4 other songs in the musical. Rewriting songs is so magical cause the cut songs are never really cut if you think about it
@@3rdEyeLenny I don't blame you, the way some cuts songs are written in Epic, makes it seem as If Penelope was a villager girl of Ithaca that grew up close to Odysseus when realistically, they didn't even spend a year dating in Sparta before Odysseus asked for her hand.
Love how the Suitors not only took his palace, but his lines as well. Really pundered what was his for years, only leaving Telemachus and Penelope for last.
it's probably a psychological effect that results from the disappointment that we can't enjoy more content to it's fullest and as a result we place more value on them, making them seem better than the uncut songs
@@alpha_wolf220 It could also be that some of the cut songs are less polished leading to them feeling more experimental. The more experimental a song is, the more it stands out from the rest of the musical.
no??? The mention of virginity doesn't mean anything, the reason this song was cut because it the plot for Epic that changed, and Man of The House gor replaced by Monster (yes MOTH was the third song for the Underworld saga)
@@RacketEPIC Oh, I meant it as it was too funny for the tone of the musical. And the song generally a bit out of place within all the tragedy of the other songs.
@@victorsardaneta8727 ah, well yeah, we do sometimes get a non tragic song once in a while like, Open arms or Wouldn't you like or Suffering or We'll be fine, the fast paced thing is true tho, but you could argue it could work considering how Eurylochous *did* sing that way in Puppeteer when describing Circe to Odysseus
@@RacketEPIC But they all fit. Open Arms was set before the tragedies, specifically before Cyclops, and sets up the conflict with Athena during the next song, Warrior of the Mind. Suffering has that undertone of "something is wrong here" which leads us into a Different Beast. Wouldn't you like sets Odysseus up for battle in Done For. There have only been one Flashback, which was to introduce Athena. Man of the House could've fitted early on, during the Troy Saga, but that already has many introduction songs. It sucks because it's such a good song, but it's hard to place it in such a way that doesn't disrupt the flow.
@@victorsardaneta8727 yeah, true also no actually, you forgot about the time dive, that is, too, a flashback But hey, atleast there's atleast 3 songs which have a motif from this song lmfao
You can definitely feel the Hamilton influence so I'm glad that Jorge found his own style and still managed to add parts of the old song to Legendary.
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Everyone talking about the Penelope part but Im over here crying about "Where is he? Where is the man who larger than life? Where is he? Where is the man who was sharp as a knife"
Ive watched a lot of my relatives suffer from dementia and just.... where are they.
Ody's the biggest simp for Penelope and I'm here for it
I love them sm
I mean, if someone simps for me and just as loyal as Ody was to Penelope , I would definitely want to marry him..🥹🥰
Honestly this gives such Hamilton vibes
You gotta check out ismarus if you haven’t
It sounds kinda like hurricane and another song I forgot what it’s called
@@Winters_Touchmy shot?
its kinda giving aaron burr sir and a winters ball
A number of Jorge’s early cut song drafts have more of a Hamilton vibe than the final product, it’s very interesting, though some of that influence did sneak back in on the final versions of parts of the Wisdom Saga, for better or for worse.
Laertes: Yes son, my time is near. Quick, take up the throne!
*Proceeds to live 40 more years*
If I didn't know better, it looks like he just put off the job into his son, so he could chill with his own wife. He IS Odysseus' father after all.
Bro just wanted to enjoy retirement
0:23 “WHERE IS HE, WHERE IS HE?? KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN HES AIMING FOR THE TORCHES!!”
"OUR WEAPONS, THEY'RE MISSING! HE'S USING THE DARKNESS TO HIDE HIS APPROACHES!!"
"WHERE IS HE? WHERE IS HE?"
"Capture him he's our Greatest chance"
"Get off me! Get off me!"
"Fight till the prince can barely stand!"
When I heard this melody in Legendary I was so hype realizing he took the spirit of this cut song and put it into this one 🥲👍 welcome back, our glorious champion 🗣️🔥💯
And it's also going to be in challenge, man of the house lives on and is STRONG
@@mayawhitten-desroches9800And in Odysseus!
i love how jorge reuses / repurposes cut songs like this?? excited to hear more of it in the challenge / king 👀
Oh so THAT'S where the lines in The Callenge came from. I wish he'd kept this in; it would have made the reprise in The Challenge more meaningful.
I wished this didn’t get cut, it’s sooo good
He did say that there might be a cut song saga, so hopefully this one gets in. Would be really cool to hear it fully voiced, mixed and mastered
Praying for a cut songs saga bc I love this song sm and I need the whole thing.
It’s a good song but idk what saga this would be in
@@Bungaloo-ee3so true, I think it was supposed to be in the Ithaca saga but it doesn’t really fit
Honestly, if it wasn’t scrapped, I can totally see it being the opening song. But I can also totally see it in a Trojan War Musical if Jorge does one
Really? I actually see it being somewhere in the Ithaca Saga. It provides context to their relationship which will build for the reunion
I’ve been dreaming for him to make a musical about the Trojan war which is a prequel to Epic. I could see some foreshadowing to the odyssey in it since odysseus is in both stories. It would also make Epic better because then we’d feel more pain knowing how long he was away from home.
Funnily enough, this song was originally part of the Underworld saga (was replaced by Monster)
@@spampharos it is possible it might return in Song 40 as a flashback
@@RacketEPIC Oh my gosh, another Hazbin Hotel fan! I love the Emily pfp. Also, yeah it probably will return in Song 40 in some form. Can't wait for the Ithaca Saga to come out.
WHY DOES HE SOUND LIKE LIN MANUEL MIRANDA DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THAT
I mean Hamilton Is the number 1 Inspo for epic XD
"Cause in my darkest days, the pain was our drive" actually slaps
Yeah I know this sounds a lot like Hamilton and you can see the inspiration there, but I really wished that the first half of Man of The House would become its own song. Honestly, the lines "Where is the man who was larger than life? Where is the man who was sharp as a knife?" Are fucking fire and show perfectly how our parents (who used to be invincible heroes) slowly transform in front of us into just what everyone is: human.
I LOVE THIS SONG SO MUCH EVEN THOUGH IT'S A CUT SONG-
Why was this scrapped
1:29 cuz its been 20 years 🎶
Monster, Legendary, The Challenge And King, all in this 1:47 snippet, he is so>>>
@njoestar4839 Wait what do you mean monster. Sure this song was an earlier draft for monster but that's all I can think of.😊
@@leonglitch when I turned nine My dad pulled me aside and said son I'm going insano, I heard it The same melody from When The Witch turn men into pigs to protect her nymphs is dhe going insane
I love how this connects to The Challenge. It honestly ties it up so much more 😭😭😭😭
Just imgine
Penelope: WHy do you want to marry me?
Jordysseus: You're what I saved my virginity for
Penelope:...
Penelope: Ok I'll allow it.
JORDYSSEUS???? 😭
@@jacobspalace2720 And Taylenope
@jacobspalace2720 it's worse when u realise it's pronounced "whore-dysseus"....
This was reused into a part of Legendary! “Where is he, where is the man who was larger than life?” turns into “Where is he, where is the man who’ll have you to wife?”
And… now I just realized it was fully reused in Legendary 🤦♀️
@@kiragrey2341lol
Ah, my favourite scrapped song in Epic, and clearly one of the most popular one, and also clearly the most beloved by Jorge himself judging by how this is the only song to have it's lyrics be incorporated into 3 canonical songs (Song 26, 36, 38)
"where is he? where is the man whom have you'll to wife? 'cause it's been 20 years!"
I love this song, especially the second part because I am a shameless Odysseus/Penelope fangirl.
I cant wait til we find the one piece... the cut song saga
When I turned nine, my dad pulled me aside and said
"Son, I'm going insane
I'm losing my mind, don't have too much time and soon you'll take over my reign
Your cunningness will make you tough, cause bravery is not enough"
I could tell his time was getting shorter, his voice was getting weak, he could barely speak
And all I could think was
Where is he?
Where is the man who was larger than life?
Where is he?
Where is the man who was sharp as a knife?
Cause in my darkest days, the pain was our drive
Time is fleeting, it's running out
Time to be the man of the house
At the age of thirteen, I began the third king of Ithaca and did it with pride
The years passed by and it clearly was time for me to find a faithful bride
Everybody wanted Helen of Sparta, I wanted someone smarter
Part of her family tree was the girl for me
A girl I would give the world to see (Penelope)
She made every heart in our vicinity soar, felt like infinity roars
She was the first thing I had an affinity for
She's what I saved my virginity for
Oh, she was the cleverest girl I'd ever seen
Articulate, serene, the wittiness of my dreams, I wanted to scream
And long before we had a chance to meet
I knew we were thinking the same thing, we were wondering
[ODYSSEUS, PENELOPE, BOTH]
Where is he?
Where is the man who'll have you to wife? (Where is the man who'll have me to wife?)
Where is he?
Where is the man with whom you'll spend your life (Where is the man with whom I'll spend my life?)
Cause in my darkest days (Cause in our darkest days)
Penelope's my drive (Penelope's his drive)
Time is fleeting, it's running out
Time to be the man of the house
I was just listening to this!! I wonder what caused the sudden resurgence for this one?
Mainly because of a small snippet of it making it into “Legendary”!
WAIT HOLD UP, THIS IS WHERE THE SUITORS VOICE LINES CAME FROM!?
It’s so cool how this one song was chopped up and used for like 3 or 4 other songs in the musical. Rewriting songs is so magical cause the cut songs are never really cut if you think about it
1:00
*Part of HER family tree was the girl for me
(Penelope and Helen are related)
*Technically Hellen was adopted.
OH THATS WHAT THAT MEANS. THE SECOND I HEARD THAT LYRIC I SEARCHED IF PENELOPE AND ODYSSEUS WERE RELATED
@@3rdEyeLenny I don't blame you, the way some cuts songs are written in Epic, makes it seem as If Penelope was a villager girl of Ithaca that grew up close to Odysseus when realistically, they didn't even spend a year dating in Sparta before Odysseus asked for her hand.
The first part with is dad, almost make me cry. It is hard to see your strong dad geting old and weak😢
GOD, FINDING THIS AFTER THE ITHACA SAGA CAME OUT IS AMAZING BRO
This song should've made it into the Ithaca saga it fits perfectly
Love how the Suitors not only took his palace, but his lines as well. Really pundered what was his for years, only leaving Telemachus and Penelope for last.
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I need an entire song. Because this thing way too much of a Fuckin bop.
and this, ladies and gentleman is why we NEED a cut song saga
(we can call it the "lost saga!")
I like how this was recycled into legendary
I love this! Thanks for posting I never knew all the lyrics. Tysm 🙏
i still don’t know if i can forgive jorge for cutting this song, why mr jalapeño WHY
I love this song sm!
The relation to legendary is so clean!
YESSSS NEW VIDEO
THIS IS A CUT SONG?! NOOO
This is my fav cut song, I hope it makes it to the cut song saga
I really wish for this song to get released as a solo not apart of epic bc it’s ju SOOOOO GOOD
WHATTT
bro i didnt know this song was cut 😭
i want this song so bad just as a little side story... im so sad its cut
Why are the best songs in the musical CUT from the musical?!
it's probably a psychological effect that results from the disappointment that we can't enjoy more content to it's fullest and as a result we place more value on them, making them seem better than the uncut songs
@@alpha_wolf220 It could also be that some of the cut songs are less polished leading to them feeling more experimental. The more experimental a song is, the more it stands out from the rest of the musical.
Nahhhh that made legendary so much better
“Jorge what where u thinking” we say in unison
It was CUT!! NOOO 😭
huy PHILIPPINRSSSSS
We can all agree that 1:00 - 1:14 is probably the reason the song was cut right?
no??? The mention of virginity doesn't mean anything, the reason this song was cut because it the plot for Epic that changed, and Man of The House gor replaced by Monster (yes MOTH was the third song for the Underworld saga)
@@RacketEPIC Oh, I meant it as it was too funny for the tone of the musical. And the song generally a bit out of place within all the tragedy of the other songs.
@@victorsardaneta8727 ah, well yeah, we do sometimes get a non tragic song once in a while like, Open arms or Wouldn't you like or Suffering or We'll be fine, the fast paced thing is true tho, but you could argue it could work considering how Eurylochous *did* sing that way in Puppeteer when describing Circe to Odysseus
@@RacketEPIC But they all fit.
Open Arms was set before the tragedies, specifically before Cyclops, and sets up the conflict with Athena during the next song, Warrior of the Mind.
Suffering has that undertone of "something is wrong here" which leads us into a Different Beast.
Wouldn't you like sets Odysseus up for battle in Done For.
There have only been one Flashback, which was to introduce Athena.
Man of the House could've fitted early on, during the Troy Saga, but that already has many introduction songs.
It sucks because it's such a good song, but it's hard to place it in such a way that doesn't disrupt the flow.
@@victorsardaneta8727 yeah, true
also no actually, you forgot about the time dive, that is, too, a flashback
But hey, atleast there's atleast 3 songs which have a motif from this song lmfao
Oooooh 💃💃💃
Not ody stalking his crush
I kinda wish the cut songs hadn’t been cut.
Hampter
It's so sad he cut it off the musical
Btw Eurylocus sings the first few lines up to “the years passed by…”
I don’t think Eurylochus was the King of Ithaca, though?
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Who else wants to steal penelope from Odysseus
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bro's gonna be sliced into two pieces by Odysseus 💀
The ones who have a death wish
@doloresgronenberg5882 ok, that might be true, but she is so nice and sweet, and she sounds like a wonderful woman. No wonder Odysseus stayed loyal.
@@Dsmpfan07 , in that you are right
1:05 bars??