Also depends on what your horsepower goals are and what you are going to use the car for. If you are going to go to 500 whp plus i would also highly recommend cams, and springs and head work along with the big turbo. The other thing I would also highly recommend is build supporting mods such as the transfer case. Mod list for me is 1300 cc injectors, 340lph dw fuel pump, ets upper intercooler piping, ams fmic, ams down pipe, ets mid pipe, Tomei exhaust, built bottom end, kw v3 coilovers, Tial QRV bov
Absolutely 👍 definitely depends on how you want to build your car and what’s it’s intention is. I did do like a general overview of recommendations for parts on a built block 16:00 . This was more of a generic overview tho. Your mod list is pretty stout aswell, definitely a great setup indeed :)
fbo should absolutely include boost controller. Boost controller and tune alone can net almost 100whp. Most cost effective is a 3 port, injectors, and a pump to run e85 stock turbo. under 1k for 400whp
Nice and informative video man! Just got mine 3 months ago and did FBO (minus intercooler, injectors, fuel pump, and turbo) and tune from english. Made 340whp and 355trq, goal is 450-500hp!
That’s amazing, very excited for you and your journey. Congrats on the car !! 340whp is pretty stout with little mods, your almost there to be making that next goal of yours, if you have any questions feel free to reach out :)
Your not actually full bolt on. You still need to upgrade downpipe, test pipe, an if you upgraded your turbo and fuel pump your should easily hit 400 on pump gas and 500 with e85
I pushed 565whp and 460tq on stock block with cams. Full Bolt-on’s with a DOM 3.0. Must have surge tank once you get 500+ whp. Meth is your best friend 😉
565whp is solid for stock block, I feel like what kills them is tunes with aggressive torque curves by ramping in boost too fast since the stock rods aren’t super strong and then also cylinder temps can climb to high, some cases seen to much cylinder pressure and cracking the stock sleeves
Not sure if you were referring to whp or wtq, but you can easily push 500-600whp on the stock bottom end depending where the torque is applied. Smaller turbo running 500whp vs a larger turbo running 500whp will have very different stress on the rods as torque is applied sooner than later respectively with the two turbos. 400-450wtq is the safe number if its applied in the higher rpm range, where people have been pushing 600whp for several years. There's even a guy who is running stock clutch on 600+whp
Absolutely agree with you, there has been plenty of instances of people making crazy numbers on stock block like Devin N made 721whp with a PTE 6870. Yes torque is the main factor here and how quick it comes on, keep the rods happy :)
I was being more on the conservative side for the power, I know you can make 550 - 600 whp reliably for a quite some time, I just seen instances with people barely pushing over stock and blowing their motor too so happy medium conservative. Also huge factor in this is your tuner, having a good tune is key :)
I would not recommend any evo owner connect an accessport to their vehicle. you can get an etune or dynotune, but your tuner should use a tactrix cable and the ecuflash prgram to reprogram the ecu. Tephra v3 mod is an add on that enables additional features like flex fuel and spark cut.
I feel the same about the accessports, I was more explaining all options for tuning solutions but yes Etune or Dyno is definitely the best option, I’ve seen hit or miss with access ports. Buddy ran one for a few years but didn’t make any power on it by any means. So yeah usually best to just spend the little extra and get it done right buy having a professional tuner like TunedbyWali or English Racing or SpeedLab get it done :)
@@Riot_EvoX I’d go so far as to say any shop that recommends an accessport should be ran away from at all costs. It’s great for subies, but will 100% blow our engines.
It won't blow the engine, they're just dog shit to tune with. There's a few local evos here running 550whp stock bottom end on cobb and a stock turbo running on 400whp with cobb. That being said I'd never put a cobb in my car even if it was prior to their shitty epa update. @@jeremysteinacker4889
Couldn’t agree more aswell, at the end of the day I don’t recommend the accessports or their OTS maps for evos but it still technically is another tuning solution, just not a good one and if your gonna spend 400-500 bucks on tuning definitely go the extra mile and spend a couple more to get open source tuned by a reputable shop or tuner
Thank you so much 🙏 Yes very familiar with him, following him for years. That build is crazy for stock block. Yes some people get incredibly lucky with stock OEM blocks but the longevity is questionable for sure. But yeah that’s definitely a first for that kinda power at stock block lol
Like 421. Hey bro I have a 2017 lancer, I was just wondering if you know about trying to get a turbo in the fwd lancers. Or if you got good sites for lancer parts that would help. Thanks
As far as swaps go, seems that a lot of people do Ralliart swaps, not sure if the N/A that comes in the lancers can hold boost well or not. With that being said there is tons of people that have done the Ralliart swaps on the forums and videos so give it a shot. As far as good sites, I’d say start with MAPerformance or STM Tuned
For cars with more aggressive cams such as GSC S2 like mine or Kelford B-C yes you gotta rev it out more to get up and going. Something to note if you plan to do that
An MR is still a great option, yes they are usually a bit cheaper and don’t have extensive mods, great way to get into the platform. Only thing you want to be mindful of is you will hit a power wall a lot sooner than a GSR, the MR DCT has a limitation point around 400-450TQ before they start giving way. So if you don’t plan to go for big power or know your gonna get the trans built then I’d say go for it
@@Riot_EvoX hmm im making 620 wheel right now on a built block with meth using brisk racing at 17 gap but I'm looking to switch. How long do they last for you?
@@Riot_EvoX for real lol For sure. I been eyeing the AGT turbos for a while now. Debating to go that route or not. Finding your Chanel and seeing you running one is leaning me towards one more now. Just gotta see how they hold up.
Im currently on my way to 500hp, so far got new fuel pump, injectors, map and maf sensors, ets cold air intake. Just need intercooler and bigger turbo and we should be hitting it no time. P.S The links in the description are not working
Hell yeah!!! Lookin forward to hear how it goes, go get yourself a AGT turbo and an ETS or MAP or STM Intercooler and your set. As far as the links yeah I guess RUclips has some sort of policy on links for new channels so once I get enough traction I’ll be able to do actual hyper-links. For now just gotta copy paste the web address and it’ll bring you straight to the part :) Thank you for your support 🙏
Shoot I forgot to put it in the description I apologize, here is where I bought it from www.amazon.com/2008-2015-Mitsubishi-Bumper-Spoiler-Splitter/dp/B07QC8L24B
Sell it and buy and Evo X 😭😭 Jk well there’s a lot that would go into that, there’s been a few RUclipsrs that’s actually done it so I’d recommend doing your research first before possibly making the transition since there’s an extensive amount of work and parts
You could just flash the Ecu and see if you could find way to be cheap and have power and go from there there always ways to make power but you have to see which way works
You absolutely can do that and still get gains out of it, however due to the restrictive factory air box, manifold, downpipe, and exhaust, the gains may not be worth the price for a tune by itself. However I know everyone has a budget and can only go so far so those who are on that side and are looking for deals then I’d go for at least an intake and downpipe and tune
For the most part yes, most mods are cross-platform and will work on a ralliart, just double check certain parts tho before buying just to be on the safe side
That is a fantastic question. Unfortunately I’m not too familiar with the SST transmissions. I would reach out to some popular shop for further advice a shop that works on the SST transmissions.
Yeah seems to be around there but tuners like to keep the torque as low as possible around high 300s but I’ve seen some crazy torque numbers on stock block too :)
Really is no definite “safe number” on the stock block. I’ve seen 4B11Ts blow at 330tq, I’ve seen them hold 450tq. Depends more on the blocks current health and where the tq is reaching peak values in the powerband. You want your tq coming in higher in the band vs it being lower. Low end tq kills these rods.
Surly noted, my thought process was not doing it as I just showed all the mods in my previous video with the overview, however for upcoming installs and fixes and improvements I will be showing everything so hopefully that solves that in the future :) Thank you
you got lucky with your miles, Got mine for $40k with 87k miles out here in norcal and got fucked because of the covid tax, about to sell it and probably get a lower mile one or a c7 z06
I definitely found a diamond for sure, yeah they be taxing for these things now, I’d definitely look around at what’s on the market, C7 Z06 are going for a lot now, most between $70k - $80k
@@Riot_EvoX yea the evo was my dream car but not really comfortable with adding power and modifying it with this many miles, it’s not my daily car but I just wouldn’t be comfortable with that if it wasn’t for the miles I would keep it and build it since it’s a really clean car for it’s miles i’m the 2nd owner and only put 9k miles on it since I bought it
@@jrsghostsI still think you should give the platform a chance. Do the required maintenance before adding power. You might end up liking it after giving the car a chance.
They have definitely seen better days but it rains 10 months of the year here in WA so having them keeps the sides of the car from getting caked with dirt
I think it’s ridiculous you showing up doing a video, in my opinion that’s nonsense, I didn’t watch your video to the end, so disgusting and boring, bro it’s pointless you doing a video and not showing the things that you done, otherwise the car looks outstanding, I personally was interested in the rear trunk lid spoiler, and hoping that you discuss the make, brand and installation.
Sorry you feel that way, still learning this RUclips thing, as far as what’s done to my car, if you actually go back to my previous video explaining my Evo X you’ll see all the modifications I’ve done. I wanted to make a separate video on how someone can build their own Evo without having to copy mine (which there’s nothing wrong with that either) but explaining it and giving different part options in a separate video seemed like the best format to me. Hopefully you enjoy the coming videos :)
Running 573hp on e85 here I think you nailed all the information needed. Good video, straight to the point no bs.
That is some solid power!!! Thank you for the kind words and some awesome build updates will be coming very soon. Thank you for your patience.
Also depends on what your horsepower goals are and what you are going to use the car for. If you are going to go to 500 whp plus i would also highly recommend cams, and springs and head work along with the big turbo. The other thing I would also highly recommend is build supporting mods such as the transfer case. Mod list for me is 1300 cc injectors, 340lph dw fuel pump, ets upper intercooler piping, ams fmic, ams down pipe, ets mid pipe, Tomei exhaust, built bottom end, kw v3 coilovers, Tial QRV bov
Absolutely 👍 definitely depends on how you want to build your car and what’s it’s intention is. I did do like a general overview of recommendations for parts on a built block 16:00 . This was more of a generic overview tho. Your mod list is pretty stout aswell, definitely a great setup indeed :)
do not need to build the head for 500whp or head work
Though you don't need to its easier to get there if you do and you deal with less lag and better driveability period. Thus I'd highly recommend it
Got my Evo tuned by wali as well. Drove 3 hours for it but worth it🙌
Absolutely 💯
fbo should absolutely include boost controller. Boost controller and tune alone can net almost 100whp. Most cost effective is a 3 port, injectors, and a pump to run e85 stock turbo. under 1k for 400whp
I realized after making the video I forgot to mention boost controller, 3 port for sure. Thank you 🙏
I know a lot go to the grimmspeed 3 port or Cobb version
@@Riot_EvoX yea brand doesn't matter, all companies source the exact same Mac solenoid and just put their logo on it.
Makes sense why they all look so similar and all work the same lol 😂 good to know
Can wait to get me Evo X or 9!
Hell yeah either are amazing cars !!!
Nice and informative video man! Just got mine 3 months ago and did FBO (minus intercooler, injectors, fuel pump, and turbo) and tune from english. Made 340whp and 355trq, goal is 450-500hp!
That’s amazing, very excited for you and your journey. Congrats on the car !! 340whp is pretty stout with little mods, your almost there to be making that next goal of yours, if you have any questions feel free to reach out :)
Your not actually full bolt on. You still need to upgrade downpipe, test pipe, an if you upgraded your turbo and fuel pump your should easily hit 400 on pump gas and 500 with e85
I pushed 565whp and 460tq on stock block with cams. Full Bolt-on’s with a DOM 3.0. Must have surge tank once you get 500+ whp. Meth is your best friend 😉
Yeah I’ve heard great things about Meth-Injection I’ll definitely look into it and possibly get that setup on the car and do a review of it
565whp is solid for stock block, I feel like what kills them is tunes with aggressive torque curves by ramping in boost too fast since the stock rods aren’t super strong and then also cylinder temps can climb to high, some cases seen to much cylinder pressure and cracking the stock sleeves
Not sure if you were referring to whp or wtq, but you can easily push 500-600whp on the stock bottom end depending where the torque is applied. Smaller turbo running 500whp vs a larger turbo running 500whp will have very different stress on the rods as torque is applied sooner than later respectively with the two turbos. 400-450wtq is the safe number if its applied in the higher rpm range, where people have been pushing 600whp for several years.
There's even a guy who is running stock clutch on 600+whp
Absolutely agree with you, there has been plenty of instances of people making crazy numbers on stock block like Devin N made 721whp with a PTE 6870. Yes torque is the main factor here and how quick it comes on, keep the rods happy :)
I was being more on the conservative side for the power, I know you can make 550 - 600 whp reliably for a quite some time, I just seen instances with people barely pushing over stock and blowing their motor too so happy medium conservative. Also huge factor in this is your tuner, having a good tune is key :)
I would not recommend any evo owner connect an accessport to their vehicle. you can get an etune or dynotune, but your tuner should use a tactrix cable and the ecuflash prgram to reprogram the ecu. Tephra v3 mod is an add on that enables additional features like flex fuel and spark cut.
I feel the same about the accessports, I was more explaining all options for tuning solutions but yes Etune or Dyno is definitely the best option, I’ve seen hit or miss with access ports. Buddy ran one for a few years but didn’t make any power on it by any means. So yeah usually best to just spend the little extra and get it done right buy having a professional tuner like TunedbyWali or English Racing or SpeedLab get it done :)
@@Riot_EvoX I’d go so far as to say any shop that recommends an accessport should be ran away from at all costs. It’s great for subies, but will 100% blow our engines.
I 1000% agree an access port is something you should def stay away from. I have a final edition that is open source tuned with e-85 and i love it.
It won't blow the engine, they're just dog shit to tune with. There's a few local evos here running 550whp stock bottom end on cobb and a stock turbo running on 400whp with cobb. That being said I'd never put a cobb in my car even if it was prior to their shitty epa update. @@jeremysteinacker4889
Couldn’t agree more aswell, at the end of the day I don’t recommend the accessports or their OTS maps for evos but it still technically is another tuning solution, just not a good one and if your gonna spend 400-500 bucks on tuning definitely go the extra mile and spend a couple more to get open source tuned by a reputable shop or tuner
Hi bro nice car , I’m considering buying an evo x as daily and having it for the weekend do you recommend buying it?
Absolutely 💯 they are great daily’s and still are plenty capable of weekend spirited driving and canyon carving.
Nice Evo 👍 Have you heard of Devin Niemela? He made 720whp on a stock block and couldn’t blow it up, despite trying to lol.
Thank you so much 🙏 Yes very familiar with him, following him for years. That build is crazy for stock block. Yes some people get incredibly lucky with stock OEM blocks but the longevity is questionable for sure. But yeah that’s definitely a first for that kinda power at stock block lol
It was hilarious watching him beat the hell out of it though lol 😂
He was on a standalone ecu which have all the fail save settings. If it had a stock ecu it would’ve blown by now
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Like 421. Hey bro I have a 2017 lancer, I was just wondering if you know about trying to get a turbo in the fwd lancers. Or if you got good sites for lancer parts that would help. Thanks
As far as swaps go, seems that a lot of people do Ralliart swaps, not sure if the N/A that comes in the lancers can hold boost well or not. With that being said there is tons of people that have done the Ralliart swaps on the forums and videos so give it a shot. As far as good sites, I’d say start with MAPerformance or STM Tuned
I noticed at a dead stop you have to rev it higher to get going is that normal
For cars with more aggressive cams such as GSC S2 like mine or Kelford B-C yes you gotta rev it out more to get up and going. Something to note if you plan to do that
The manuals are 5-7K more expensive than the MRs. Should I consider an MR? They're usually un-violated as well
An MR is still a great option, yes they are usually a bit cheaper and don’t have extensive mods, great way to get into the platform. Only thing you want to be mindful of is you will hit a power wall a lot sooner than a GSR, the MR DCT has a limitation point around 400-450TQ before they start giving way. So if you don’t plan to go for big power or know your gonna get the trans built then I’d say go for it
@@Riot_EvoX Yes, likely will build the transmission eventually. This is gonna replace my goon miata lol
Send it 🤘🤘
Great car you got here man 🙏🏻🔥🔥
🙏🙏 Thank you
hey bro, what spark plugs you running here?
I run NGK Laser Iridiums gapped to 0.020 due to the higher boost application, need a tighter gap
@@Riot_EvoX hmm im making 620 wheel right now on a built block with meth using brisk racing at 17 gap but I'm looking to switch. How long do they last for you?
Thank you so much i just bought mine and i think i will just clone it to be like yours
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Owner of the same color evo, buys black rpf1s a week later find your channel. 😂 same front lip too 🤦🏾♂️
What are the odds 😭😭 congrats on the Evo aswell, hope you enjoy the up coming content
@@Riot_EvoX for real lol
For sure. I been eyeing the AGT turbos for a while now. Debating to go that route or not. Finding your Chanel and seeing you running one is leaning me towards one more now. Just gotta see how they hold up.
Gonna be doing some dragy testing with the 62 and then see where it goes from there :)
W video this really helped
🤘🤘 Gotta work on my sign language too but thank you 🙏
I’ll be posting some more content soon once more things start happening with the car
Im currently on my way to 500hp, so far got new fuel pump, injectors, map and maf sensors, ets cold air intake. Just need intercooler and bigger turbo and we should be hitting it no time.
P.S The links in the description are not working
Hell yeah!!! Lookin forward to hear how it goes, go get yourself a AGT turbo and an ETS or MAP or STM Intercooler and your set. As far as the links yeah I guess RUclips has some sort of policy on links for new channels so once I get enough traction I’ll be able to do actual hyper-links. For now just gotta copy paste the web address and it’ll bring you straight to the part :) Thank you for your support 🙏
May I know what your wheel and tyre spec?
Enkei RPF1 18x9.5 +22 offset
Cheap 265/35/R18 tires for weather beating 😂
Do you have the link to your front lip?
Shoot I forgot to put it in the description I apologize, here is where I bought it from www.amazon.com/2008-2015-Mitsubishi-Bumper-Spoiler-Splitter/dp/B07QC8L24B
What should I do for a shift fork 4 code?
If it’s a GSR sounds like the either the gear selector arm for 2/4 may be damaged or the came out or possibly the sensor
How can i convert 1.5L lancer ex to evo x
Sell it and buy and Evo X 😭😭 Jk well there’s a lot that would go into that, there’s been a few RUclipsrs that’s actually done it so I’d recommend doing your research first before possibly making the transition since there’s an extensive amount of work and parts
Wheel set up?
RPF1 18x9.5 +22 / 265-35-18
Love shep, got their 4.30 FD
That’s awesome 👏 How do you like it?
@@Riot_EvoX I love the extra gearing! Plus revving to 8k I can hit 130mph top of 4th
Sounds like something I may need to do here in the near future, thank you for the suggestion!!
@@Riot_EvoX no prob!
You could just flash the Ecu and see if you could find way to be cheap and have power and go from there there always ways to make power but you have to see which way works
You absolutely can do that and still get gains out of it, however due to the restrictive factory air box, manifold, downpipe, and exhaust, the gains may not be worth the price for a tune by itself. However I know everyone has a budget and can only go so far so those who are on that side and are looking for deals then I’d go for at least an intake and downpipe and tune
Can i do these same mods and tunes for a Ralliart?
For the most part yes, most mods are cross-platform and will work on a ralliart, just double check certain parts tho before buying just to be on the safe side
you could easily becoma a succesful sign language translator or puppeteer. Those hands could talk
Thank you 🙏 👍👌🤙👋🤘🙏 😂😂
To be serious the hands did help getting your message across. It could be a fun thing if you used a marker to write on your fingers? @@Riot_EvoX
Noted 👌🤙
Very informative video. Pinned .
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How to get a Mechatronic fix cause the computer is not reading it but on the old dose 🤔 SST
That is a fantastic question. Unfortunately I’m not too familiar with the SST transmissions. I would reach out to some popular shop for further advice a shop that works on the SST transmissions.
Thanks, that will be helpful
the stock block is safe to around 420 torque
Yeah seems to be around there but tuners like to keep the torque as low as possible around high 300s but I’ve seen some crazy torque numbers on stock block too :)
Really is no definite “safe number” on the stock block. I’ve seen 4B11Ts blow at 330tq, I’ve seen them hold 450tq. Depends more on the blocks current health and where the tq is reaching peak values in the powerband. You want your tq coming in higher in the band vs it being lower. Low end tq kills these rods.
Absolutely couldn’t agree more, my torque table is pretty linear and peaks at the top of my rpm range keeping my rods happy lol
Yeahhh nice EVO out there but i'm getting annoyed the way you explain mods without showing the engine or some parts is so boring.
Surly noted, my thought process was not doing it as I just showed all the mods in my previous video with the overview, however for upcoming installs and fixes and improvements I will be showing everything so hopefully that solves that in the future :) Thank you
@@Riot_EvoX that is so nice, hoping to it to be more fun and interesting, anyway i love your evo. Keep it up
you got lucky with your miles, Got mine for $40k with 87k miles out here in norcal and got fucked because of the covid tax, about to sell it and probably get a lower mile one or a c7 z06
I definitely found a diamond for sure, yeah they be taxing for these things now, I’d definitely look around at what’s on the market, C7 Z06 are going for a lot now, most between $70k - $80k
@@Riot_EvoX yea the evo was my dream car but not really comfortable with adding power and modifying it with this many miles, it’s not my daily car but I just wouldn’t be comfortable with that if it wasn’t for the miles I would keep it and build it since it’s a really clean car for it’s miles i’m the 2nd owner and only put 9k miles on it since I bought it
@@jrsghostsI still think you should give the platform a chance. Do the required maintenance before adding power. You might end up liking it after giving the car a chance.
Yeah I regret selling my Evo for a C7 Z06 I’ll trade you
@@LP-bt4jk You’re cappin hard 😂 going to go look at one this weekend
Nah, Mitsubishi did it for me.
australia has the best parts everything from 3&1/2 inch dump to full exhaust
Artec cast manifold > anything else.
take those mud flaps off bro
They have definitely seen better days but it rains 10 months of the year here in WA so having them keeps the sides of the car from getting caked with dirt
YES I WANT TO BUILD MY SST, AND IM GOING TO SPEND 50K IN EUROS TO FUCKUP ANYTHING I SEE ON THE ROAD.
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I think it’s ridiculous you showing up doing a video, in my opinion that’s nonsense, I didn’t watch your video to the end, so disgusting and boring, bro it’s pointless you doing a video and not showing the things that you done, otherwise the car looks outstanding, I personally was interested in the rear trunk lid spoiler, and hoping that you discuss the make, brand and installation.
Sorry you feel that way, still learning this RUclips thing, as far as what’s done to my car, if you actually go back to my previous video explaining my Evo X you’ll see all the modifications I’ve done. I wanted to make a separate video on how someone can build their own Evo without having to copy mine (which there’s nothing wrong with that either) but explaining it and giving different part options in a separate video seemed like the best format to me. Hopefully you enjoy the coming videos :)