How Bad Are Electrics In Thailand? 🇹🇭
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Greetings from 6,000 miles away in Thailand! 🇹🇭 In today's video, I will take a look at the electrical setup in a new apartment that has been recently set up in Thailand. 🏢 While we're all familiar with the spaghetti-like wiring in older places, let's see what the electrical system looks like in this brand new apartment. 🤔 So, please sit back, like, subscribe, and enjoy the video. 😎
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⏱️Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction
01:41 - A Future Message
03:12 - Entering the Forbidden Room
06:20 - Taking a Look At Some Fascinating Work
07:37 - Checking Out The Electrics
10:53 - Going Exploring
12:03 - Interesting Finds 🫣
13:34 - Knowledge For Some Electrical Work
16:53 - Elevators In Thailand
18:16 - Something I LOVE
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good bye cause I will unsubscribe now due to the content and the direction the channel is going
Next video is Jordan showing us the electrical layout in a foreign prison
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😂😂😂 " I'm here now may aswell have a look" " excuse me guard who can I send my detailed electrical report to complete with schematic in relation to the pendant light in my dormitory??" 😅
The Bangkok Hilton!
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In Bangkok There's a far worse shock to get than an electric shock,🍆
One very important thing to note - NEVER look into the end of fibre, especially when you don't know what's at the other end. The colour of light coming through data cabling is likely to be infrared, so it'll appear really dim red or invisible depending on wavelength. However just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's harmless - there could easily be enough power in the beam to instantly burn your retina, or even set fire to paper or destroy a phone camera
INSTANTLY burn your retina?
That was my world for many years working in the Electric cupboards of the high flats in Glasgow, found a guy living in one once mattress and all. Another job I traced a fault back to a local indoor substation only to find a circuit breaker had tripped by a guy who also was living in the sub with a three piece suite and a cooker !
Can't believe this video. Just got back from 2 weeks in Thailand 5 days ago. What more do I want of a video, electric, telecom and EV charging points - all in one😅
Perfect for me who's interested in this stuff.
Slight off the electric path.
One I found interesting, is buying a local Thai SIM card for internet. I found 5G all the way from top of a building, mountain to the basement of shopping centre or beach, on sea ferry and with internet at full 100mbps+ speed. 600mbps in beach... Even 960mbps at the airport.
But back in the UK, My other half was lucky to get onto the network once back in LHR and everywhere in the UK less than 10mbps.
I lived in Thailand for the best part of a decade. During that time, I rented several properties. Thai house wiring is a thing to behold. They like to surface mount the cables. The cable runs are beautifully installed, very neat, and perfectly straight. They use a white and black colour scheme for the wire. But no one seems to know which is the live wire. I think it's up to the sparks on the day to decide.
How has your time been in Thailand? and always leave it to a sparky
@@artisanelectrics what happened in thailand mate??????? do tell
Yeah, exact my point too. I never see it so neat and beautiful. Our house technician for electrical and A/C show me something of his own work how he learn it from foreigners too. Most work how I see was more hilarious. 😂
Hired handyman to install induction Hob put a voltmeter right next to wires he was using for Hob. Guy ignores voltmeter and touches the wires with fingers. They normally do not install a ground also.
@@jbranche8024 So around 2007 they started at Ko Samui, changwat Surat Thani, with grounding of new houses and repaired builds. My electrical shower was suddenly correctly installed for my own surprise. But the most sockets and plugs are not grounded, that's right but mostly not need to do it too.
The most thai people do same my mom did it - put out power plug if have a thunderstorm.
16:20 there may be a main combined meter to check the calibration of the attached group of meters, so the two at the bottom with the larger cables feed a couple of rows of those above.
@8:55 The smoke head still had the dust cover on it
I'd like to add about seeing "green" fibre tails. They're usually APC (Angled physical contact). The ends of the fibre mating points are ever_so_slightly angled, to reduce light losses. This is used in high-end high bandwidth environments, so great to see they opted for this! The reason for APC, is to reduce light loss and reflection, so the maximum amount of light passes from connector to connector.
APC is used in all FTTH networks because it's PON. If they were to use UPC and someone unplugs their home ONT (modem/router), all the light from the OLT will get reflected back which may cause issues to other users on the same leg.
D Line, all part of the old Square D family. Very robust and well made. I was recently working at a location with Square D switchboards installed in the early 1970's and all working well.
Those white fibre cables have a strong wire inside to support the cable hanging from point to point and provide strength to the tiny fibre inside.
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Loved this video. Have lived in a few countries in south east Asia and I’ve always though that despite what u see on the streets Thailand has very high standards in terms of building engineering. I now live in Malaysia and they are far behind. Would love to show u through some buildings here particularly the roof spaces where the work is hidden from site. Volt stuck a must!
Love the videos!! Love to see a video of the electrics in the Netherlands 🤩!
Jordan that was very interesting and great to see you enjoying a different part of your life I hope you're settling in and enjoying the change 😊
Really enjoying it so far! Glad you enjoyed the video
Great video, and love the content, and seeky looks, Jordon keep up the good work mate!!
3:57 Inside the cities they use cable TV and now Internet over this too. This the black lines outside in half between the power pole and earth. It is good work and not normally how you found outside. This technicians are learned it same in UK, so it looks nice and neat. This not typical Thailand... 😊
Great video, the installations you explored looked professionally built. Lets hope some of your questions about the identification of conduits and pipes can be explained by a local. Time to go for a beer where the construction workers go perhaps?
Glad your still posting man.
After many videos, you've finally done it, you've convinced me to subscribe 👍
Looks just like the electrical installations in the US. Siemens MCCBs, Schneider busway, EMT conduit, cable trays, etc. The meters look foreign, but that's about it. You should visit the US and see some of our electrical installations. The residential part will look totally foreign to you but on the commercial/industrial side it looks more European, especially with newer panelboards like the ABB Proline using DIN rail MCBs and finger safe busbars.
When I worked for BT there were massive busbars associated with the distribution of 50V DC to the equipment in telephone exchanges. Cross sectional dimension of 30 x 30 cm or so not uncommon, consisting of multiple plates with air gaps in between. all duplicated for pos and neg. A lot of heavy metal supported from the ceiling and whacking great fuses. Also, when carrying a lot of current, a significant steady magnetic field as it was DC.
This is a super interesting video series idea! Love it!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Enjoyed this video Jordan, went to Thailand earlier this year, the Similan Islands are amazing, you've got to experience it.
Next year I'm going to The Maldives, so that will be a good trip too.
Dean, Travelling Veteran, AKA Doctor Electric!
Interesting film thanks. The "bell wire" you noticed in the comms room is for the Fibre internet. One "strand" is the fibre optic cable and the other side is an insulated steel "support" wire. It stops the fibre from kinking or snapping as it's routed through the conduits, voids and roofspaces into the condo unit. Once they get it to the router, they separate the fibre off, splice it and add a terminator (the yellow cable) for insertion into the consumer's router. This is what I have in my Bangkok condo.
Thanks for the information!
Used in Australia for overhead fibre service.
@@matthewpettengale9943Exactly
It's curious that on a new installation they appear to have used electromechanical meters for each apartment rather than electronic ones which can be read remotely and monitored by the consumer.
When I installed solar here 5 years ago they installed a mechanical meter. As the meter doesn’t move they thought I was spinning the meter backwards (to the same reading each month) I have asked them to change the meter- still waiting.
At 8:35 that is the natural air circulation relays controlling the air shaft tunnels running up and down the building
Absolutely loved this style of video, thankyou ♥
You are very welcome 🙏
Really Enjoyed This.. Hoping You'll Do More Similar As You Travel Around . . .
Those tubes you see on 9:46 are called "buffers" they each carry usually 12 cores of fiber. And that "bell" wire is a usual single core or 2-core fiber cable for terminating the "final" end connections.
Living in Thailand for 11 years nothing surprises me electrical wise here. A sparky in the U.K. The U.K. standards are way way higher. As someone els mentioned lucky you were not confronted by anyone it could of looked dodgy.
Thanks Jordan, very interesting indeed
It is Jordan Farley doing the explanations that makes Artisan Electrics videos so interesting.
Therefore wherever you are Jordan, keep it up! 🙂
Jordan! Finally about time. Glad to see you Hugs! Oh my Gosh, there are so many wires on pole. My wife's ex lives in the Philippines. I watched them on a youtube video "Iverson Fire Rescue Volunteer Brigade Inc." in the Philippines. I was shocked that there were so many wires on one pole. Oh my GOD! That was very interesting and great to see you enjoying a different part of your life. I hope you're settling in and enjoying the change. Also "Artisan Electrics in Thailand" Now you have two companies Cambridge and Thailand. Interesting? Thumbs up! Cheers! 🤟
One of the best videos.. thanks
I got involved with installation of sockets at the girlfriends house in Thailand. 3 pin thai sockets and UK sockets a ground rod an isolation switch before the breakers . The Thai plugs have isolated tops on the pins. Probably better than the USA sockets if installed well
The plugs seem to be good but I'm not so sure about the multi-standard sockets that take both US and Thai plugs. Designing sockets for two entirely different systems (flat blades and round pins) seems to be risky because you'll end up reducing the contact surface for at least one, if not both plug types. Banning US plugs might have been a better idea than designing an entirely new plug standard.
Looks better than anything I have seen in Vietnam, but it is getting better here. I have seen the facial recognition elevators though. Vincom Mall here in Da Nang has the entire motorbike parking area under the mall set up with EV motorbike chargers. All the spots have the chargers, but only 20% or so are actually live.
I know it's not sparks, but try and find the main building plantroom and break into that. I'd love to see a brand new up to date plantroom, and get chummy with the facility manager and show us the BMS too 😀👍🏻👌🏻
There’s pipes and plumbing at 6:19. That’s all you need to know! 😂 Great video mate enjoy your break. 🎉
The meters are before the MMCB for each flat. Usually before the meter is a physical tamper proof fuse.
1:21 This is a typical build of an emercency lighting. The power go off and the build-in battery starts the power and the light(s) starts. Do you buy this boxes normally with 1 till 4 lights. It is easy to install for the customer and easy to change. In history I pay around ๕๐๐฿ (500TBH) till ๑๕๐๐฿ (1500TBH) for one box at Tesco Lotus. The old one use 12V bulbs, this newer build use LED.
The plug and sockets are older copies of the British plugs how they use around 1900 in the British colonies around the Kingdom of Thailand. They are normal around in Asia. If you are rich or love security do you use British plug and sockets, e.g. for hot pot, hot pan, rice cooker, mostly in business buildings, e.g. Restaurants.
We rented an apartment in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. There was no way i was going to have a sneak peek at the electrical control rooms in my 47 floor apartment block, the security throughout was very good.
We came across some very dangerous exposed live parts whilst walking through some older parts of town, an empty fuse carrier that had live parts exposed to any animal of any kind.
I got the impression that in Malaysia, they take electrical safety, in particular, lightning safety very seriously.
Been watching technology videos for about a decade now. Noticed that in pretty much every country in the world, there's people that are really good at building technology. But, for some reason, some countries embrace building technology more than others.
Their style of electrical construction is nearly identical to US.
38 years for me. After a few years at a Paper Mill. Where I worked on everything and PLC was just getting into mainstream use. Later on, I did primarily Fire Protection in large office buildings, schools, campus and large warehouse and factories.
16:20 given that there are 20 of the smaller cable meters, and that the smaller cable meters have smaller numbers on them, i think that the bigger cable meters are actually feeding into the smaller cable meters. so i reckon there might be 2 seperate bus bars (i'm guessing this is for 2 phases, given that the input voltage is 415v so they would just split this into 2 ~207v lines) and each bottom meter covers its own bus bar. im guessing this would be purely for redundancy reasons, so that if any of those meters fail, they will definitely know and can recover any missing details.
I live in Thailand and you never even told me you were here!
Thailand has been considered an upper middle income country for over 10 years now. They have the get go to do things correctly now, probably at the same position as the UK was in the late 60's early 70's. Just look at some of the installations you can still see here, you have shown them on your channel more than once. It shouldn't come as a surprise that in the big cities there things are done right.
Lots of countries now in a similar position to Thailand who would have been considered "Third World" 50 years ago. Just look at Singapore, first time I was there in 1975 they had open sewers and shanty towns and an average income of probably a 1/4 of the UK. Now they have an average income almost double the UK's.
i think if you compared UK and Thia roads you would think the UK was a third-world countery
when visiting Pattaty i stay in the nags head on 2en Road (recommended)..the isolator for the electric shower is with you in the cubical..,, yes you can touch the live uncovered terminal if you want to do so when you have a shower ,,,I have photo
We had busbars in the last building I worked in, had works done on the sprinkler systems and someone didn't cap off a pipe in the riser.... rather large explosion and about £250k worth of damage!
That was fascinating.
Modern electrics and plumbing in Thailand are generally very good. The older stuff not so good. They probably introduced stricter codes in the recent past.
Those bird nest disasters like the one you showed in the intro are everywhere though. Mostly old obsolete comms cables actually but mixed with power cables too, and when they burn which they often do the results can be spectacular. Recently one such fire in Pattaya happened above a row of parked motorcycles, setting fire to them and the resulting damage was extensive!
In a lot of places they are all being removed and the non obsolete stuff being moved to underground ducts, but imagine how big and disruptive a job that is. Where it’s complete it’s quite a transformation but it’ll be years if ever before they get done.
Thailand is a great place to retire to though.😊
It does seem like any new builds have much better electrics and wiring which is great to see!
Done the same thing when in Spain , and Dubai .. most new builds are done well , it’s the old ones that are poor … Dubai was superb.
Very interesting video!
Interesting you're covering Thailand. My girlfriend is from Thailand and she wants to check out the electrics in her home out there as she has no confidence it's been done right or safe. Not sure if Thailand is stringently regulated like it is in the UK but I must say these are amongst the tidiest plant rooms |I've seen in any construction. Having worked on hundreds of sites from primary schools to commercial, government and MOD I've seen it all in the UK.
Also, interesting that it's labelled in English.
Stringently regulated? I have lived here for six years. I have seen much new construction and have never seen a building permit, building inspector or a licensed contractor. Blueprints are optional. I am sure large commercial properties have more oversight but for everything else, you do you!
The F/A cabinet with all the relays is probably for a smoke control system, I saw a grille in the stairwell and as it's such a tall tower it is probably a pressurisation system where big fans either at roof level or basement will keep the stairs at a higher pressure than the corridor that could be filled with smoke. There's probably an outlet in the corridor as well so when the stair door is held open there will be a pressure differential between the 2 keeping smoke out of the stairwell.
At 8:15 in the video that cabinet is fire alarm. the little modules with the green screw terminals are EST fire alarm input modules. Not sure what the unlabeled modules with the LEDs are but the EST ones are used in the US. Nice tidy install.
Next week Jordan looks at the electrics of the 5th floor of the Yanggakdo Hotel, Pyongyang...
We use plugs and sockets for lighting in the UK too. They're called Klik roses
3:40 Hard to see if you shaking your camera so fast, but it is a company in Krung Thep (or Bangkok/BKK for the fahrangs) how build it. Then name of how tested it - how build-in and tested inside is free.
5:30 This all *not* typically Thailand installation. I think it is Bangkok City law's and farang companies how want it nice and neatly.
Interesting film. I just got one question... what's the average sentence for breaking and entering in Thailand that you managed to dodge? 'Cause yea, if you did set of some kind of anti-tamper alarm for any of those cupboards you opened, you might have found yourself in a much less pleasant place to stay.
Definitely hasn't been here 5 minutes knocking the place already....Ting Tong Falang.
its depends how much you bribe the investigating officer, think of Thai police more of a bsuiness than a crime prevention unit..come to think of it a mafia
Interesting how messy the fiber cables are compared to all the other wiring. Those white fiber cables are common, we have similar stuff in the US, I’ve got 1Gig fiber to my apartment and they use similar cables to distribute to each unit. It’s likely a single strand that uses coarse wave multiplexing to get bi-directional coms down a single strand.
Plug-in tap off have been used worldwide for donkeys years , odds on the bus bars are copper. Enjoy the fruits of your labours ( and of of course your employees) Jordan , when I was in KL I found a grand helpful maintenance man so fortunately I didn’t have to trespass
9:38 At my time only Siemens City have had more as 100 MBit for every household. So I think they do now FTTH what make sin in a big apartment complex with many apartments. If you not rent it with internet it can be only FTTC - so you have ADSL at home only. Why do you not show your apartment so we can see it?
Why do you not have 2 fiber in one apartment - do you can double your speed or one company, one private. It is all mystery before do you not shown your apartment.
Of course power for the *active splitter* ! Without your lights not working. Very good structured work and cable laying.
Born and brought up in Cambridge but have lived the last 30+ years in Asia and it’s always fun to see wide eyed new little bunny rabbits come to Asia and guess what’s going on. 🤣 Ironically, I came across your channel as I have just bought a big house back in UK and was researching how to install solar and batteries .. want the job ?
Sounds good! Give us a call or drop us an email!
in the philippines, have seen electric show plug in in the shower, (trinon) to be fair, the socket was about a foot above
If you every get to UAE Ill take you round some high rise construction and if you want to see real power bus bars down in to some pump stations
Some parts of New Zealand use the same looking bell wire looking Fibre
Nice video Jordan 🇨🇮😎
Glad you enjoyed
The mess of cables in the electricity poles are not electricity wires. They are fiber, telecom TV etc. Each company putting cables in the poles should pay rent to PEA (MEA in Bangkok) but to ofen they don't do that so the electricity authority has a lot of probllems when doing jobs along the power lines when they don't know who all the cables belongs to. My wife is a deputy manager at PEA and explained this is a real problem.
you can go into many condos built over 10 years ago and the plastic covers have NEVER been removed from the detectors...was in one 3 months ago removing them.they tend to use wire nuts once inside the rooms to join cables.....erm air b n b i thinki is still illegal in a condo building, minimum stays of 1 month upwards....short term illegal
Interesting our Jordan 👌
Considering that is a new apt, the electric meters are the old school analogue not new digital meters
I hope youtube are paying your fair share in the adds revenue mate.... I had to sit through 7 lots of ad breaks during this 20m video.....
I was waiting for the video to cut to security chasing you down the corridor 👮👉🪛😮😄. Really interesting video, I hope you enjoy your travels.
A security guard probably would have politely asked him to leave the unfinished floor. If the guard doesn't speak English he might ask a supervisor for assistance. Even then, since Jordan is a harmless looking foreigner, they would not make a big issue out of it. Its not exactly illegal to wander off through open doors to unused floors.
I would be careful with these kind of fire exits though as they could be connected to an alarm system.
@@ChristianWagner888 it's likely disconnected due to being an in-progress building, tho it should always be connected since it's occupied...
maybe the bigger meters supply like a penthouse type suite, are all the apartment's the same size?
I got a shock from my laptop's power cable in a 5 star resort in Krabi because the sockets were unpolarised, ungrounded 2 pin US sockets and i plugged in my UK laptop power supply through a travel adapter and I happened to guess the orientation of the plug wrong the first time
I loved the video. Great to be able to have a look inside service cupboards. I wonder if they use electricity or gas for Hot water in Thailand high rise buildings?
Electric water heater under the sink in condos. I use solar thermal in my house
WWTP - waste water treatment plant? Love the channel and I'm a plumber 😁
The installation of electrical systems on a new-build like this one will have been supervised by a Western electrical project engineer. As a result the installation will be of a high standard.
However........
In less well-regulated builds and especially out in the sticks things are very different. Most electrical equipment is not genuine OEM, rather Chinese copies, installation is very poor, earthing non-existent and 'qualified' electricians difficult to work with.
We have a commercial broiler chicken farm and the 3-phase installation was pretty bad.
My favourite was our local electrician who installed a 7kW water heater in the kitchen and fitted the earth to a nearby bolt in the wall.
I have learned much from your channel.
BTW, I woudn't go poking around like that without permission as you would absolutely be arrested, have your camera equipment confiscated and be fined heavily if caught.
If you come back here I'd gladly show you around a typical 3-phase installation by 'professionals'.
Great video Jordan. Good to see good electrical work and future proofing
Thanks for watching!
Ooh, what a very interesting explore here! 😀 Many thanks Jordan, and here's hoping you also took the opportunity to document some of the more _traditional_ aspects of Thai electrical installations before pressing on to Indonesia! 😇
Quick question about the 3ph isolation unit at 12:15 - The label on that implies (To me at least; But I'm not a qualified Sparky) that the unit is „Plugged“ into the busbar riser. But for a 3ph 2kA circuit these surely can't be tapping the busbar with simple spring or friction contacts (As opposed to bolts)...Can they? ⚡🔥😲
Finally: An excellent example of an everyday *high* current electrical system is the third rail traction supply used on our railways in the south/east of England. Although these are low voltage by definition (750v) the current flow is *extremely high* for a system with exposed contact points, and the thinnest conductor I've seen anywhere on these systems is no less than 100mm diameter. 😲
If I understand correctly these carry about *50kA* in normal operation, and being *DC* too they won't appear to bite too much...But when they do, it'll be the sort of bite that chargrills a Bovine in a mere fraction of a second! 🐄⚡🔥🍖😨
If you're interested in learning more about tap-off units, have a read at the Schneider or Eaton busbar catalogues. The tap-off units won't be bolted to the riser; it'll be a heavy-duty levered connection...
Also the connection from the tap-off unit to the switchboard (14:26 in video)...to me it looks like the connection was made via busbar, not cables (the trunking has quite small bends...you wouldn't be able to achieve that bend radius using cables that you'd typically use for a 2000A, 400V connection...)
8:54 someone forgot to remove the cover on the fire detector
What apartments/ hotel was this, it looks very clean and modern
It was certainly scary stuff when i went there 15years ago with cables everywhere lol
Thankfully it is getting a lot better now with the new builds.
4:12 Actually it is not very nice. You should not bend RF coax cables on a tight radius. The tension puts pressure on the internal insulator and makes the core migrate out of the center. This creates impedance discontinuities which cause RF signals to be partially reflected back. In short, every tight bend has the potential to cause some signal loss.
Are you sure you can do all this without getting into trouble with the authorities? It's not Tunbridge Wells.
Maybe where we see the energy meters for each apartment, the ones with slightly bigger cables are the furthest away and volt drop was a factor so they increased the cable size?
doubt it more likely its 1 bed 2 bed 3 bed 4 bed more m2 thicker cable as more demand
The conduit looks like the most common type you see here in the United States and Canada. EMT. The connectors look identical. Honestly a ton of what they do appears to be influenced by North American ways of doing things like the large boxes, and huge oversized equipment.
Good to see that the EV chargers are where the fire service can get at them easily.
Interesting stuff Jordan. Looks like a well designed system in that tower block. it's a far cry from the electrics on show in Kho San Road, Bangkok. Question. How many times a day have you and the wife said. Its hot or I am hot?
The answer to your lost question is quite a bit haha
where you looked at the meters ,you got a meter for each apartment ,and then the larger meters at the bottom each meter 5 smaller ones,
I own a villa in Phuket wirings safer than most houses in the Uk.
oh yeah, go see if those 3 pin sockets actuially go back to an earth bar
3:26 it sounded as if bear Grylls took over for a few seconds 😂
Already subscribed 😊
Mrs is sat in the bar shaking her head
We had huge arcing outside our condo building. Looked scary
I assume there are different sized cables per unit depending on the distance between the unit and the board.
so you took all the money and moved to thailand ?
fiber cable is composed of tubes, and fibers are inside those tubes. there are 12 available colors for fibers , tubes, supertubes
Elevators aren't security enclosures! Sure you can put a lot of security theater in there as soon as the fireman switch is hit you can go anywhere.
Close on the pipe colours, Yellow is mustard, red is ketchup, white is mayo and blue is water. 🤣
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Hi I have been having some trouble with my power inverter In my solar system, it’s a 12v dc to 240v ac inverter. Every time you plug something into it whatever is plugged in e.g. a fan it makes a wired humming that doesn’t happen when plugged into mains