Before updating my air M1 I looked up several videos about newer versions of MacOS and the difference between each and their effect on productivity of the machine. At the end I am here with Sonoma for 2 days already and Monterey was much faster at everything, be it opening tabs on browser or opening application windows and so on. I am a bit upset that the tests in your video didn't comply with reality. And for my unluck, the system deleted the version in the syslog of the previous macOS, so I don't know what version to download to downgrade 😢
Many thanks. I've sought a speed test like this for a long time! A battery life test across MacOS would be a very high value video. You would need to assure each OS is done indexing (if it is a fresh installation). The test could be an automated, repeating web browsing script or video on loop.
Ummm this is kinda irresponsible to do these awesome tests and not mention which Mac you own? Is it a 2020 M1 Macbook Air or the Retina? How much Ram and Hard Drive space is on your computer? Wouldn't that determine how fast your computers would run? The videos were going pretty fast and I can't see the "info" specs but did I miss something here?
I appreciate the content. I know you're a fairly new RUclipsr, but next time, wipe the screens before recording and consider getting some better lighting (there are affordable options out there). Other than that, keep grinding, bro!
For something like a 4gb macbook air the recommended one is actually 10.7, mainly because of +1gb extra ram which allows to actually use it without running into swap. The extra gig comes from lower vram allocation, and its perfectly fine because you dont need 1.5gb for a freakin HD 4000
Awesome Test Here! Some scored High & Others Scored Low > LOTS of factors to consider: Mac Intel or Apple Silicon? , HDD, SSD or NVme? , RAM Memory and Speed in MHz?, File Type Volume: Mac OS Journal or APFS, Which Mac OS version is "Fully Optimized" for that specific computer or the software running? , Processor Speed? , External or Internal peripheral devices connected, such as Mouse and Keyboards, may or may not be 100% compatible or fully optimized, Enhanced graphical effects and animations on the newer versions may slow down older computers., and so much more! Thanks for sharing this important information. 👍
Please solve my problem My mac model is MacBook pro 13" early modle and I'm upgrading ram and ssd CPU : Intel Core i5-2415M cpu 2.3GHz RAM : 16GB(8GB 램 두개) 12800MHz DDR3 ssd: 256GB SATA 그래픽: Intel HD Graphics 3000 This is the specification of my laptop, which os would be the best fit?
Hello, which system is better for Mac Pro 16 2019? Monterey or Sonoma, I’ve never tried Monterey tho, I cannot decide which one should i, now I use Sonoma and I concern ppl say that it drains battery and take a lot of ram compering to Monterey. thanks in advance
@iAppleOrchard No it's not on by default. You select it if you want during the initial setup. (Or afterwords at any time in settings). If you enable filevault it causes this delay during boot. In any case, I am just throwing some ideas trying to figure out why the boot time in Big Sur was so much slower.
@@will.gallegos Yeah great test, but Im pretty sure in real life it doesn't compare, I guess I don't know.. whats your experience with sonoma vs big sur irl ?
@@will.gallegos please say what about Ram usage on Sonoma now, after few months? I am concerned, because in you test ram usage was more than 1 gb more, than on older MacOS
@@dimakonstanta1868 macOS Sonoma 14.4, the latest version has much better ram management than any other Sonoma version, 3.9 GB for me. I would expect the next 2 updates to help lower it even more. Also keep in mind that this is my primary OS and I do have stuff run when starting up.
Hey kiddo, “fastest” has a lot to do with which model/chip Mac you’re using and which OS is most optimized for which chipsets. i.e. Sonoma would probably be faster on more recent macs, so that’s worth testing too. I’ve found that typically about one (or two at most) release after the OS that came with your mac will be fastest on it.
Sonoma ruined my macbook air m1 2020 battery. Literally I was having a normal battery which lasted all day with just one charge and after the update my battery has deteriorated within 3 days. Now it lasts only 3 hours. I will try to downgrade to Big Sur. I cannot believe they did this to my laptop. Its impossible that it naturally got ruined so fast within 3 days. I am so silly to upgrade, regretting so much.. Please stay away from these upgrades unless you want your macbook to be ruined. Check other source people say to stay away from these major updates
@@pinakkoladaaу меня почти такая же модель,стоит ли переходить с Sonoma на big sur ,или какая версия os будет лучшей для этих ноутбуков ,мой ноутбук такой же но на intel
Ikr... At least with Sequoia Beta 3, Ram usage is actually better than Sonoma, but still pains me that they sell it in 2024... I hope they take this criticism and make M4 16 GB the base.
You weren't even born when I got my first Mac . My first Mac was actually the original Apple Macintosh. What is with all the operating systems? Is Apple having a mid life crisis?
This was useful since I intent to upgrade an old unsupported Mac and I didn't know Sonoma used so much more memory. I suspect on a machine with only 4GB this would be an issue.
Ill do a battery test with Sequoia's this year, however I am upgrading to an M3 MacBook so I might need to ditch Ventura, Monterey, and Big Sur (Already was planning Big Sur to be ditched)
I have a question I would greatly appreciate an answer for. I have a MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2019, Four Thunderbolt 3 ports) which I used for music production, running macOS Mojave 10.14.6. It was the most powerful MacBook I could acquire that could run 32-bit plugins. I no longer have the need to run 32-bit plugins or programs, but I would appreciate knowing the best OS to upgrade to. I have an iPhone XR running iOS 16.6, and each successive update is undoubtedly causing some unresponsiveness. My theory is each device has an optimal OS, balancing speed and features. What should I update my MacBook to?
I am using 2019 Mac book pro i5 ı m having trouble with Big Sur these days or maybe ıt is something else can anybody says should ı go to Monterey Ventura or even Sonoma ? thanks !
to you or to anyone I have a macbok pro 15 in retina late 2013, I am running Catalina at the moment. I am able to upgrade to Big Sur or Monterrey. which do you recommend I should upgrade to. please the one with the least bugs and compatibility problems. your advice is greatly appreciated. thank you
Monterey because it was designed to be an update to speed up macOS and fine tune some things that the huge update Big Sur may have broken, and is still receiving software updates until September. It is also newer than Big Sur, resulting in better compatibility.
if you havent bought it yet, i wouldn't recommend it, 2019 mac pro used intel processor. getting a mac with the m1 processor is a huge step up, and will not become outdated nearly as fast as a mac with an intel chipset
@@will.gallegosI have 8Gb RAM and Big Sur takes 2.3GB, at the same time Ventura takes 4.5Gb right after the boot with 0 load and opened apps. No other OS takes that much (Windows around 2.5Gb, Linux takes less than 2GB)
Someone doing the real work. And asking the real questions.
Thank you.
Winners
Boot Test : Ventura
Login Test : Big Sur
Ram Test : Monterey
GB Test : Sonoma
OpenCL : Sonoma
I loved the tests. Can you do a battery life test for each Macos?
Before updating my air M1 I looked up several videos about newer versions of MacOS and the difference between each and their effect on productivity of the machine. At the end I am here with Sonoma for 2 days already and Monterey was much faster at everything, be it opening tabs on browser or opening application windows and so on. I am a bit upset that the tests in your video didn't comply with reality.
And for my unluck, the system deleted the version in the syslog of the previous macOS, so I don't know what version to download to downgrade 😢
Thanks for the review, I'll stay at Monterey
you can reinstall monterey easily with an usb key dude
How about the battery?
Many thanks. I've sought a speed test like this for a long time!
A battery life test across MacOS would be a very high value video. You would need to assure each OS is done indexing (if it is a fresh installation). The test could be an automated, repeating web browsing script or video on loop.
Ummm this is kinda irresponsible to do these awesome tests and not mention which Mac you own? Is it a 2020 M1 Macbook Air or the Retina? How much Ram and Hard Drive space is on your computer? Wouldn't that determine how fast your computers would run? The videos were going pretty fast and I can't see the "info" specs but did I miss something here?
I appreciate the content. I know you're a fairly new RUclipsr, but next time, wipe the screens before recording and consider getting some better lighting (there are affordable options out there). Other than that, keep grinding, bro!
Might have been useful to tell us what Mac you were using, how big it's SSD is, how much RAM and...crucially, whether it was Intel or Apple Silicon!
M1 MacBook Air 8 Core GPU, 512 GB SSD, 8 GB Ram, and… Apple Silicon. I did mention this but I cut it out of the intro because it was long.
@@will.gallegos put it in the decription then...?
@@will.gallegosit’s never too long the more content the more we watch
Mac OS X 10.8. This version run so good even in older macs.
Yeah but 10.8 is obsolete and cannot be used very easily, also can’t run on a modern mac unfortunately.
For something like a 4gb macbook air the recommended one is actually 10.7, mainly because of +1gb extra ram which allows to actually use it without running into swap. The extra gig comes from lower vram allocation, and its perfectly fine because you dont need 1.5gb for a freakin HD 4000
LOL!!
i still use big sur
I loved the tests. Can you do a battery life test for each Macos?
I guess that Ventura and Somona are in the first place. Togetherness
Awesome, but clean your screen before shooting a video - and even better never touch your screen with your fingers
Thumbs down for the dirty monitor full of fingerprints.
Can you make a new video for macOS squoia?
Thanks for the vid! BUT PLEASE CLEAN YOUR MAC! 😭
Thank you for this test! Sonoma would be clear winner but because of that RAM usage IMO winner is Ventura.
yes, strange ram usage on Sonoma!
What mac did you do this test on?
Awesome Test Here! Some scored High & Others Scored Low > LOTS of factors to consider: Mac Intel or Apple Silicon? , HDD, SSD or NVme? , RAM Memory and Speed in MHz?, File Type Volume: Mac OS Journal or APFS, Which Mac OS version is "Fully Optimized" for that specific computer or the software running? , Processor Speed? , External or Internal peripheral devices connected, such as Mouse and Keyboards, may or may not be 100% compatible or fully optimized, Enhanced graphical effects and animations on the newer versions may slow down older computers., and so much more! Thanks for sharing this important information. 👍
Friend its a great work! Thanks so much. Ive search something like this a long time
Please repeat by using Squesia .
I like Mojave better than all of these, at least i can use my legacy apps 32bit apps.
i have one machine running sonoma and another monterey. practically there's no difference, just Sonoma's system preferences is annoying
what are this machines?
Please solve my problem
My mac model is MacBook pro 13" early modle and I'm upgrading ram and ssd
CPU : Intel Core i5-2415M cpu 2.3GHz
RAM : 16GB(8GB 램 두개) 12800MHz DDR3
ssd: 256GB SATA
그래픽: Intel HD Graphics 3000
This is the specification of my laptop, which os would be the best fit?
그냥 옛날 OS쓰샘 BIG SUR 부터 m칩들 기반이라서 인텔맥 엄청 늦려짐 그래서 저도 m1으로 바꾸었어요 개발자여서요
Comparativa de bateria pls!
дякую бро
What a great work. Please make more of this type tests! Like and subscribe.
Hello, which system is better for Mac Pro 16 2019? Monterey or Sonoma, I’ve never tried Monterey tho, I cannot decide which one should i, now I use Sonoma and I concern ppl say that it drains battery and take a lot of ram compering to Monterey. thanks in advance
I would say Ventura is the best most likely.
@@will.gallegos thanks!
@@will.gallegos Thanks! Monterey isn't good enough? Idk anything about "Ventura" need to check it out
Man I wish you could have done the test with Intel based Mac
My recommendation do update anything. Monterey is the best optimized for intel. Venture and Sonoma are battery and RAM intensive
I have a 2015 MBP 13” 8GB RAM I5, what OS should I use in 2024?
Thanks
I am also using the Same model, i have the Same doubt
Monterey
Is it possible that you have enabled filevault in Big Sur? The boot time is too slow.
I didn't modify any settings, and I believe FileVault is on by default on all operating systems.
@iAppleOrchard No it's not on by default. You select it if you want during the initial setup. (Or afterwords at any time in settings). If you enable filevault it causes this delay during boot.
In any case, I am just throwing some ideas trying to figure out why the boot time in Big Sur was so much slower.
Thanks for this useful video
hey dud thanks for your video,
would you recommand installing Sonoma on a Macbook Pro mid 2012? i have installed catalina but its so slow...
Thanks for your video! Great job 👏
In my experience, Big Sur work better than Monterey by far ! Mac Mini M1 16gb 240gb
Yea early versions of Monterey were rough, but they did feel better, but this test shows that besides ram usage (for now), Sonoma is better.
@@will.gallegos Yeah great test, but Im pretty sure in real life it doesn't compare, I guess I don't know.. whats your experience with sonoma vs big sur irl ?
@@DarkTrapStudio Sonoma feels very good. Better than Big Sur.
@@will.gallegos please say what about Ram usage on Sonoma now, after few months? I am concerned, because in you test ram usage was more than 1 gb more, than on older MacOS
@@dimakonstanta1868 macOS Sonoma 14.4, the latest version has much better ram management than any other Sonoma version, 3.9 GB for me. I would expect the next 2 updates to help lower it even more. Also keep in mind that this is my primary OS and I do have stuff run when starting up.
My 2017 MacBook Pro runs macOS Ventura and my 2015 iMac runs macOS Monterey
Hey kiddo, “fastest” has a lot to do with which model/chip Mac you’re using and which OS is most optimized for which chipsets. i.e. Sonoma would probably be faster on more recent macs, so that’s worth testing too. I’ve found that typically about one (or two at most) release after the OS that came with your mac will be fastest on it.
Sonoma IS WAY FASTER than all of these so yes it does make a big difference
bull s my Big Sur takes 2,3Gb of RAM the less among all of them
please do this with sequoia
Working on it.
i have a macbook pro (2019) M1, I've never updated it so i'm still on Big sur. Should I update it to Sonoma? I’m very afraid if it gets worse
Sonoma ruined my macbook air m1 2020 battery. Literally I was having a normal battery which lasted all day with just one charge and after the update my battery has deteriorated within 3 days. Now it lasts only 3 hours. I will try to downgrade to Big Sur. I cannot believe they did this to my laptop. Its impossible that it naturally got ruined so fast within 3 days. I am so silly to upgrade, regretting so much.. Please stay away from these upgrades unless you want your macbook to be ruined. Check other source people say to stay away from these major updates
Here my battery did not change. Mac air 2020.
Sonoma is not good yet. I didn’t update from Ventura
@@pinakkoladaaу меня почти такая же модель,стоит ли переходить с Sonoma на big sur ,или какая версия os будет лучшей для этих ноутбуков ,мой ноутбук такой же но на intel
@@_KLA1N_ советую откатиться на монтерей, сонома еще не очень стабильная
i want to see the intel version comparison
I unfortunately do not have an Intel MacBook lying around, but if I do get one for macOS 15, I will be sure to do that.
@@will.gallegos please retest ram usage on Sonoma! i told about this on MacRumors :)
Ребят у меня MacBook Pro 2020 intel ,какая версия os будет лучшей для автономности и работы ?
What a great work.
good work thanks, can you add some test on your bench, like some adobe after effects render, photohop filter etc.
Yeah, an improved video with sequoia is getting planned right now, I just want to wait for 15.0’s final release.
crazy Apple still sell mac with only 8GB of RAM (not upgradeable).
Ikr...
At least with Sequoia Beta 3, Ram usage is actually better than Sonoma, but still pains me that they sell it in 2024...
I hope they take this criticism and make M4 16 GB the base.
You weren't even born when I got my first Mac . My first Mac was actually the original Apple Macintosh. What is with all the operating systems? Is Apple having a mid life crisis?
Haha yes
This was useful since I intent to upgrade an old unsupported Mac and I didn't know Sonoma used so much more memory. I suspect on a machine with only 4GB this would be an issue.
Worth Keeping what version your device came with sometimes...
On Big Sur you can still run iPhone apps
(11.2.3 and lower)
You can also run iPhone apps in macOS 14.5
Sequoia takes more disk space compare to Sonoma, not sure that RAM usage less then previous mac OS
It's super unbalanced with Ram usage as on right now.. I will compare Monterey, Ventura, Sonoma and Sequoia once the betas are over.
how to you jump from one version to another one ??
Great video real effort no sugarcoating thumbs up guys lets make some engagement
i have mac bbok air m1 and ill stay with ventura over sonoma tbh
Very interesting, thank you for doing this for us. I wonder which version has better battery life.
Ill do a battery test with Sequoia's this year, however I am upgrading to an M3 MacBook so I might need to ditch Ventura, Monterey, and Big Sur (Already was planning Big Sur to be ditched)
I have a question I would greatly appreciate an answer for.
I have a MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2019, Four Thunderbolt 3 ports) which I used for music production, running macOS Mojave 10.14.6. It was the most powerful MacBook I could acquire that could run 32-bit plugins.
I no longer have the need to run 32-bit plugins or programs, but I would appreciate knowing the best OS to upgrade to. I have an iPhone XR running iOS 16.6, and each successive update is undoubtedly causing some unresponsiveness. My theory is each device has an optimal OS, balancing speed and features.
What should I update my MacBook to?
Hmm, I would do Ventura because its still supported and takes up the least amount of Ram.
@@will.gallegos Thanks! I really appreciate your reply. I'll be sure to let you know how it goes (hopefully for the best)!
I am using 2019 Mac book pro i5 ı m having trouble with Big Sur these days or maybe ıt is something else can anybody says should ı go to Monterey Ventura or even Sonoma ? thanks !
Привет ,у меня такой же мак бук ,какая версия os у вас сейчас ?
Great, thank you so much!
to you or to anyone
I have a macbok pro 15 in retina late 2013, I am running Catalina at the moment.
I am able to upgrade to Big Sur or Monterrey.
which do you recommend I should upgrade to.
please the one with the least bugs and compatibility problems.
your advice is greatly appreciated.
thank you
Monterey because it was designed to be an update to speed up macOS and fine tune some things that the huge update Big Sur may have broken, and is still receiving software updates until September. It is also newer than Big Sur, resulting in better compatibility.
waiting for sequoia vs sonoma.
Im waiting for Sequoia to release to everyone just in case there is a major bug in the betas.
Waiting for sonoma vs sequoia
Will come out soon. I just want the final version to be out because ofc the beta will be bad.
which macbook did you use?
M1 MacBook Air, 512 SSD, 8 GB Ram, 8 GPU
Ventura ❤
MacBook Pro 16inch 2019 macOS ok ?
if you havent bought it yet, i wouldn't recommend it, 2019 mac pro used intel processor. getting a mac with the m1 processor is a huge step up, and will not become outdated nearly as fast as a mac with an intel chipset
what macbook it is ?
The macos Sonoma drains the battery of MacBook air m1?
did you find out the answer?
@@WTPleo no :(
@@thisisjnv I think I might keep Ventura for now since there are still updates coming out for it
@@WTPleo same.
why so many smudge on screens.
Haven’t cleaned it in a while. I have since I made the video.
Big Sur is the fastest among them and works more silently than all of them
Strange, Ventura should be the best one here. Also, Ventura is actually supported unlike Big Sur.
@@will.gallegosI have 8Gb RAM and Big Sur takes 2.3GB, at the same time Ventura takes 4.5Gb right after the boot with 0 load and opened apps. No other OS takes that much (Windows around 2.5Gb, Linux takes less than 2GB)
@@will.gallegosNothing strange, older OSes always take less hardware resources
Sonoma destroys all, way snappier
@@SPSquirtle I would say Ventura is the best tbh.
Thank you !!!!
nice
thx
Thank you!
🔥🔥🔥
I have installed macos Sonome on my macbook pro m1 2020. It has half the battery life of macos Ventura
Means its not good?
I have the same laptop m1 pro 13 and currently is on latest Ventura I was thinking to update to Sonoma ? Is the battery life still worst ?
@@3Toy
@@3Toy, Sonoma is worse than Ventura still
I have ventura 13.5.1 on m1 air, which version of ventura is the best?
13.6.3 is the best. 13.6.4 made the desktop login time high.
You've reduced my 2-5 hour job to 4 minutes, thank you
Which one uses the lass ram?
big sur .
monterey
Thank you very much for your test, it helped a lot