have you weighted and compared the sets before mounting them? the new set might be a little bit heavier because of steel in the front? for me the old set looks like more of a prototyping set, machined alu and stuff, the new set looks more like a mass production, with pre-fabbed steel parts welded together...
What would be the difference between this custom Öhlins suspension kit and tarmac suspension kits from REIGER (current Toyota WRC supplier) and BOS (former Toyota WRC supplier)? The REIGER tarmac suspension kit is 13,848,00 EUR, and the BOS tarmac suspension kit is 15,594.34 EUR, so they must offer something special.
@@RotheliRacing I am curious about the benefits of these high-end suspension kits from REIGER and BOS. Being WRC suspension suppliers, I assume these tarmac suspension kits would have to be compliant (more comfortable) for rough roads, and if so, how would that translate on a track? I imagine REIGER and BOS would be much faster than the Öhlins on the road, but would they also be quicker on the track? I ask because there is no first-hand information or reviews online from anyone who has fitted either of these REIGER or BOS tarmac suspension kits to their GR Yaris. 🤔
@@tracklover180 you get a Million different possible setups instead of just 15 clicks. 100 different springrates, different shims for your damper setting plus low- and high-speed adjustment, most likely even different damper lengths, more suspension travel etc. So there‘s no way to compare this to a „normal“ Trackday Suspension. And unless you have suspension travel sensors, data about your aerodynamics and every other possible sensor plus like 2-3 engineers to set it up, there is absolutely no point in getting one of these suspensions.
@@RotheliRacing Interesting. Thank you for clarifying. 🙂 BOS also sells a suspension kit for Road/Track/Circuit for 4.039,00 EUR, which appears to be a plug-and-play kit that has been reviewed and is highly recommended by Adriano James Piras, so I think this is going to be the best setup for a fast rough UK road and regular track day setup.
I have the older version in my car. Would love some guidance on settings you recommend. The car is currently lowered and has spacers on the wheels but it bottoms out in the arches. Id like to raise ride height and soften the suspension as the roads are quite bad here. Maybe I can keep the spacers in place if ride height is increased. Thanks.
I noticed rubbing from the rim/tyres on the old coilover, was that 9.5+45? I also had rubbing with that spec and had to downgrade to 8.5. Honestly been happier since. Also the new steel mount looks like the shock centre line is closer to the hub bolt centre line than before, which could cause even more rub. Can you confirm that is the case?
if you not are building for racing and want the car lower and dont want to spend öhlins money is it worth bying like bc coilovers or d2 or is it better just to change to HR springs. car is for daily use and maby a couple of trackdays but just for fun
I made a video also about the H&R springs. If you want to lower the car and keep the suspension as good as its from Factory, you need the Öhlins or something similar. Everything cheaper will make it lower, but worse.
Dude I love your channel please keep making more videos like this!!!
Thanks Mate. Appreciate it. 😃
Brilliant content as always 👍👍
Thanks Mate. 😃
have you weighted and compared the sets before mounting them? the new set might be a little bit heavier because of steel in the front?
for me the old set looks like more of a prototyping set, machined alu and stuff, the new set looks more like a mass production, with pre-fabbed steel parts welded together...
No i didn‘t, but yes, will most likely be slightly heavier.
Hi Phil, I have the same AP calipers as you. Are they better than the stock calipers?
Much better yes.
What would be the difference between this custom Öhlins suspension kit and tarmac suspension kits from REIGER (current Toyota WRC supplier) and BOS (former Toyota WRC supplier)?
The REIGER tarmac suspension kit is 13,848,00 EUR, and the BOS tarmac suspension kit is 15,594.34 EUR, so they must offer something special.
Oh yeah. That‘s a totally different thing. Like a Golf GTi and a Porsche GT3 RS.
Both are cars but the difference is huge.
@@RotheliRacing I am curious about the benefits of these high-end suspension kits from REIGER and BOS.
Being WRC suspension suppliers, I assume these tarmac suspension kits would have to be compliant (more comfortable) for rough roads, and if so, how would that translate on a track?
I imagine REIGER and BOS would be much faster than the Öhlins on the road, but would they also be quicker on the track?
I ask because there is no first-hand information or reviews online from anyone who has fitted either of these REIGER or BOS tarmac suspension kits to their GR Yaris. 🤔
@@tracklover180 you get a Million different possible setups instead of just 15 clicks.
100 different springrates, different shims for your damper setting plus low- and high-speed adjustment, most likely even different damper lengths, more suspension travel etc.
So there‘s no way to compare this to a „normal“ Trackday Suspension.
And unless you have suspension travel sensors, data about your aerodynamics and every other possible sensor plus like 2-3 engineers to set it up, there is absolutely no point in getting one of these suspensions.
@@RotheliRacing Interesting. Thank you for clarifying. 🙂
BOS also sells a suspension kit for Road/Track/Circuit for 4.039,00 EUR, which appears to be a plug-and-play kit that has been reviewed and is highly recommended by Adriano James Piras, so I think this is going to be the best setup for a fast rough UK road and regular track day setup.
I have the older version in my car. Would love some guidance on settings you recommend. The car is currently lowered and has spacers on the wheels but it bottoms out in the arches. Id like to raise ride height and soften the suspension as the roads are quite bad here. Maybe I can keep the spacers in place if ride height is increased. Thanks.
Öhlins delivers a recommended setting and i would stick to that to be honest.
@@RotheliRacing yes unfortunately I don’t have a copy of the settings for my version of ohlins. Do you know where I can get my hands on this info?
@@mighte9379 your Öhlins Dealer should be able to help you with that.
I noticed rubbing from the rim/tyres on the old coilover, was that 9.5+45? I also had rubbing with that spec and had to downgrade to 8.5. Honestly been happier since.
Also the new steel mount looks like the shock centre line is closer to the hub bolt centre line than before, which could cause even more rub. Can you confirm that is the case?
That was with 265 Trofeo R which are in reality 285mm wide and with -3,5 degree camber.
@@RotheliRacing
How is the clearance now, between the Swedish Ohlins dampers and your 18x9.5 +45 rims?
@@warboyrb exactly the same as with every other suspension. 😁
Just to check - those titanium ones are simple as the stock Toyota size, and camber is all adjusted from the top?
Correct.
if you not are building for racing and want the car lower and dont want to spend öhlins money is it worth bying like bc coilovers or d2 or is it better just to change to HR springs. car is for daily use and maby a couple of trackdays but just for fun
I made a video also about the H&R springs.
If you want to lower the car and keep the suspension as good as its from Factory, you need the Öhlins or something similar.
Everything cheaper will make it lower, but worse.
Does the Ohlins coilovers come with adjustable endlinks and other parts needed to lower suspension or would you need to buy that separately?
Why would you need adjustable endlinks? 🤔
Try Nitron suspension I think better.
We installed Nitron as well and i‘m not a Fan…