You made a complex topic- German railway signaling rules and forms- easy to understand and apply. I like your comparison of various Märklin form and light signals and which is the right one to apply on the layout. Well done 👏
This is insanely helpful. I plan on designing my own signals in CAD, but this is great for teaching me about each of the different signals and what they're for.
Great to hear! Do remember that if you are 3D printing signals, then you can find many signals ready to print on various sites with 3D prints. This might make it easier. I have seen Marklinofsweden recommend some 3D sites. Check out ruclips.net/user/marklinofsweden Enjoy ;-)
Great video - I'm starting to think about signals for may layout. . I will probably go the Hobby Signal/M84 route for block and yard signals. Also potentially in the station I require 6 exit signals - probably do the same there (only 2 aspect though) as an inexpensive option to start. Thanks for sharing. Tom
Go for it! Yup - signals are expensive and using the m84 can help reduce cost. Do consider the Viessmann light signals - if you wire them correctly, then the MS2 and CS3 can control these as well through the m84. You will get more signal aspects and they look like the Märklin ones. Have fun with signals ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Thanks for the tip. Not quite sure how to get the 3rd aspect on a Viessmann signal to work with a M84. I'll have to do some research. Greetings from Kanada Tom
Hint: For 3 aspect signals you need 2 addresses. If the signal is address 10, then also address 11 is used. On Address 10 you will have Red/Green and on Address 11 you will have Yellow on the "Green". You can see it here ruclips.net/video/FmEd5OKhnP8/видео.html In this way you need to use two outputs from the m84.
1:00 Märklin signals are of course, German signals. Other railways network have different signals (different shape, colors or combinations). But what is interesting is that the semaphores are really typical to Germany. I've never seen any such mecanical semaphore in France (SNCF) (modernisation has been exhautive). British semaphore still remain, but they have a very distinct shape. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formsignal fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sémaphore_(signalisation_ferroviaire) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_semaphore_signal
13:08 The startup signals have also the advantage of being CHEAP, even if you add the price of the m84 decoder. On the other hand, they have the inconvenient of having wires (to connect to the decoder or the control panel). So you may want to choose them if you are building a static (or modular) railway which can take some under-board wiring. Note that the track current cutting relays are indeed in the m84 decoder, so I'll also have something positive to say about the startup signals in this respect later.
Agreed - startup signals are cheaper. However, you have to consider what you will do with your layout and decide which signals work best for you. Temporary layout, automated layout, semi-automated layout. Semaphore - then you often end with the expensive signals. Many choices - to be honest I will probably be using a little of everything. Enjoy and thanks for commenting - eager to hear about signal experiences from everybody :-)
22:40 indeed, if you want to use signals from other countries, you can do that by using third-party "dumb" signals, and drive them with the m84 decoder (or some other decoder).
4:32 for a hands-on approach of the signals, the best is to travel between two cities: ruclips.net/video/SJea2ZU1pks/видео.html Remember, in Germany the signals are on the right of the tracks! (unless a specific indication otherwise).
Quite interesting, of course the signal types are for one country only (Germany); it would be interesting to know the differences among various countries and if, with the UE, there is a standard agreed upon (or will be). Not your job, of course, but ours! A couple of points about the presentation. First a silly one: I think you meant "short brake" and not "short break". On a more serious point, your presentation will greatly improve using a first graphical introduction on what "distant", "home", "entry" and "exit" mean on a railroad layout - just a section of tracks with indication of where the signals will be positioned, by type. Overall, a nice work! Did you see this old video? ruclips.net/video/u71JosBytYU/видео.html
Glad you liked it. Yup "short brake" - lol. This video is just an overview of the signals made by Märklin and is part of the signal series videos. I will talk about where to place signals in a later episode to tie everything together. Already have most of the graphics done - stay tuned. Have fun!
Thank you for a very comprehensive overview of the Märklin World of signals.
Glad you liked it. Enjoy ;-)
You made a complex topic- German railway signaling rules and forms- easy to understand and apply. I like your comparison of various Märklin form and light signals and which is the right one to apply on the layout. Well done 👏
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy ;-)
This is insanely helpful. I plan on designing my own signals in CAD, but this is great for teaching me about each of the different signals and what they're for.
Great to hear! Do remember that if you are 3D printing signals, then you can find many signals ready to print on various sites with 3D prints. This might make it easier. I have seen Marklinofsweden recommend some 3D sites. Check out ruclips.net/user/marklinofsweden Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun I mean using someone else's model takes the fun out of it but thanks!
@@vidiottheowl2825 True - have fun and let us see the signals you create ;-)
Thank you - always had a hard time understanding signals!
Hi Stanley - Happy to help! Enjoy ;-)
Thanks again!
My pleasure. Enjoy ;-)
I ❤ your videos and I would like to thank you for your time in making these great instructional tutorials. Greeting from 🇨🇦
Hi Michel, Thank you so much - I am glad you like them. Enjoy model trains ;-) Bo
Very Informative and well explained. Thank you for the comprehensive overview as well!
Glad you enjoyed it! Have fun :-)
Nice video.
Hi Henrik, glad you liked it. Enjoy ;-)
Great video - I'm starting to think about signals for may layout. . I will probably go the Hobby Signal/M84 route for block and yard signals. Also potentially in the station I require 6 exit signals - probably do the same there (only 2 aspect though) as an inexpensive option to start.
Thanks for sharing.
Tom
Go for it! Yup - signals are expensive and using the m84 can help reduce cost. Do consider the Viessmann light signals - if you wire them correctly, then the MS2 and CS3 can control these as well through the m84. You will get more signal aspects and they look like the Märklin ones. Have fun with signals ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Thanks for the tip. Not quite sure how to get the 3rd aspect on a Viessmann signal to work with a M84. I'll have to do some research.
Greetings from Kanada
Tom
Hint: For 3 aspect signals you need 2 addresses. If the signal is address 10, then also address 11 is used. On Address 10 you will have Red/Green and on Address 11 you will have Yellow on the "Green". You can see it here ruclips.net/video/FmEd5OKhnP8/видео.html In this way you need to use two outputs from the m84.
1:00 Märklin signals are of course, German signals. Other railways network have different signals (different shape, colors or combinations). But what is interesting is that the semaphores are really typical to Germany. I've never seen any such mecanical semaphore in France (SNCF) (modernisation has been exhautive).
British semaphore still remain, but they have a very distinct shape.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formsignal
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sémaphore_(signalisation_ferroviaire)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_semaphore_signal
Yup - good tip: search on Wikipedia - lots of information about trains, signals, locomotives, etc. Have fun :-)
13:08 The startup signals have also the advantage of being CHEAP, even if you add the price of the m84 decoder. On the other hand, they have the inconvenient of having wires (to connect to the decoder or the control panel). So you may want to choose them if you are building a static (or modular) railway which can take some under-board wiring. Note that the track current cutting relays are indeed in the m84 decoder, so I'll also have something positive to say about the startup signals in this respect later.
Agreed - startup signals are cheaper. However, you have to consider what you will do with your layout and decide which signals work best for you. Temporary layout, automated layout, semi-automated layout. Semaphore - then you often end with the expensive signals. Many choices - to be honest I will probably be using a little of everything. Enjoy and thanks for commenting - eager to hear about signal experiences from everybody :-)
From what I have read you show the VR2 + HP2 aspect when the tran leaves the station and there is a curve or change of track ahead
Those are good examples of "Slow" - Thanks. Enjoy ;-)
22:40 indeed, if you want to use signals from other countries, you can do that by using third-party "dumb" signals, and drive them with the m84 decoder (or some other decoder).
Agreed dumb signals are really useful :-)
4:32 for a hands-on approach of the signals, the best is to travel between two cities: ruclips.net/video/SJea2ZU1pks/видео.html
Remember, in Germany the signals are on the right of the tracks! (unless a specific indication otherwise).
Good Tip: I also enjoy watching cab ride videos - they do give good inspiration for what to model. Enjoy :-)
Quite interesting, of course the signal types are for one country only (Germany); it would be interesting to know the differences among various countries and if, with the UE, there is a standard agreed upon (or will be). Not your job, of course, but ours!
A couple of points about the presentation. First a silly one: I think you meant "short brake" and not "short break". On a more serious point, your presentation will greatly improve using a first graphical introduction on what "distant", "home", "entry" and "exit" mean on a railroad layout - just a section of tracks with indication of where the signals will be positioned, by type.
Overall, a nice work! Did you see this old video?
ruclips.net/video/u71JosBytYU/видео.html
Glad you liked it. Yup "short brake" - lol. This video is just an overview of the signals made by Märklin and is part of the signal series videos. I will talk about where to place signals in a later episode to tie everything together. Already have most of the graphics done - stay tuned. Have fun!
...and cool old video ;-)