I'm looking to get this to sharpen my moras since I don't have a sharpening stone to do so with. I'd also like to get a better edge on some of my folders. I was hesitant, I'm not anymore. You can't find it at Walmart but it's on Amazon for $13. Thanks for the video!
weeeell, the short answer is no... the longer answer is as follows: most oil stones come pre filled with oil from the factory, therefore water will just roll off of them. Some people boil the oil out ANYHOW, if you do use water, you will round over the abrasive on the oil stone much faster, unlike a water stone this is pretty much all oven baked abrasive, no binder included. The stone does not release abrasives on its own like a water stone does, so the particles that do the cutting slowly round out over time. If you use oil, it prevents "abrasion" and allows "cutting" so the surface will last longer, also oil has a tenancy to clean stuff out, so it keeps the stone clear. This is why if you use oil on an oil stone, they tend to stay flat for a long time! Thanks for the comment.
India stones are not good stones at all. They're rip an edge apart, if you aren't very, very careful. As for cheap steel, it should be easier to get a razor edge on cheap steel. Tempering makes getting a good edge more difficult, not easier. People go wrong with cheap steel by over sharpening it. It should get sharp in only five or six good strokes, if it has any edge at all. Keep sharpening after that, and you just ruin the edge. You also shouldn't try to get a burr off the edge with a sharpening stone. That's the hard way. A strop is how you polish away a burr properly.
cheap steel does not have fine grain structure, nor is it of high quality so no... it doens't take an edge easier. What you are thinking of is softer steel which grinds faster. Higher end steels take better edges. As for the other stuff you are explaining, these are opinions... you should use whatever stones work for you! and sharpen however you get the best results! Thanks for the comment.
Crixus The Gaul great response. I love when people critique my shooting and have no videos up. I got a different question. what is your favorite steel as of now? I've been enjoying d2 lately
haha, yeah people who don't provide content love to correct people. hmmm well, I can give you a few that I like... its sort of like choosing a favorite band for me, can't do it! I like 154cm, 440c, Cold steel's AUS8a (looove that stuff) Hitachi white and blue steel... 1095. I don't have much experience with d2. only have 3 knives with it, and 2 are BM balisongs which I don't sharpen. I'm not a big super steel fan at all.
Thank for your time and the good video - shows what can be done with the product- very useful for potential buyers.
have a nice day
+Stefan Wolf Thanks sir, keep em sharp!
I'm looking to get this to sharpen my moras since I don't have a sharpening stone to do so with. I'd also like to get a better edge on some of my folders. I was hesitant, I'm not anymore. You can't find it at Walmart but it's on Amazon for $13. Thanks for the video!
Patrick Jennings Cool man, the small finishing stone might not be big enough for a mora, you would have to be careful I guess.
Smiths tristone is great
Is there are any long term negative effects of using water in place of the oil with this particular set of stones?
weeeell, the short answer is no... the longer answer is as follows: most oil stones come pre filled with oil from the factory, therefore water will just roll off of them.
Some people boil the oil out ANYHOW, if you do use water, you will round over the abrasive on the oil stone much faster, unlike a water stone this is pretty much all oven baked abrasive, no binder included.
The stone does not release abrasives on its own like a water stone does, so the particles that do the cutting slowly round out over time. If you use oil, it prevents "abrasion" and allows "cutting" so the surface will last longer, also oil has a tenancy to clean stuff out, so it keeps the stone clear.
This is why if you use oil on an oil stone, they tend to stay flat for a long time! Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for your quick response and info.
India stones are not good stones at all. They're rip an edge apart, if you aren't very, very careful. As for cheap steel, it should be easier to get a razor edge on cheap steel. Tempering makes getting a good edge more difficult, not easier. People go wrong with cheap steel by over sharpening it. It should get sharp in only five or six good strokes, if it has any edge at all. Keep sharpening after that, and you just ruin the edge. You also shouldn't try to get a burr off the edge with a sharpening stone. That's the hard way. A strop is how you polish away a burr properly.
cheap steel does not have fine grain structure, nor is it of high quality so no... it doens't take an edge easier. What you are thinking of is softer steel which grinds faster. Higher end steels take better edges. As for the other stuff you are explaining, these are opinions... you should use whatever stones work for you! and sharpen however you get the best results! Thanks for the comment.
Crixus The Gaul great response. I love when people critique my shooting and have no videos up. I got a different question. what is your favorite steel as of now? I've been enjoying d2 lately
haha, yeah people who don't provide content love to correct people.
hmmm well, I can give you a few that I like... its sort of like choosing a favorite band for me, can't do it!
I like 154cm, 440c, Cold steel's AUS8a (looove that stuff) Hitachi white and blue steel... 1095. I don't have much experience with d2. only have 3 knives with it, and 2 are BM balisongs which I don't sharpen. I'm not a big super steel fan at all.