Forbidden Planet (1956) Review - An Influentially Underrated Classic
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- A review of Forbidden Planet with SPOILERS and how it has been influential in Science Fiction particularly Star Trek, Star Wars, etc. #ForbiddenPlanet #RobbytheRobot #1950s
It's one of the most critically acclaimed and beloved sci fi films ever made. It's only underrated if you've been living on another planet.
Would that planet include Altair IV? I honestly never heard of this one and no one I knew saw this. I honestly thought it was a B scifi horror movie from the 50s initially after seeing it for the first time in Halloween. I watched it and realized how wrong I was and it strongly influenced a lot of the stuff I watched. I honestly don't think it gets enough praise is what I was trying to get at. I appreciate you watching my video. I've covered a few other movies as well with my most recent, the original Planet of the Apes
@@Nerdporeal I guess it does get lumped in with a lot of 50s sci fi monster films, and it might just be your age. I grew up in the 70s, and I think this will have been shown on TV quite a lot during the Star Wars craze. I saw it a lot as a kid, and this was before video recorders, so it would have had to have been on TV. I'm a cinema nerd too, and I like a lot of vintage films.
@@Nerdporeal There are many in each generation who do not appreciate that important, and often wonderous things happened before they were born, or at least before they gained some memorable consciousness. History, as it happens, is much more than a class at school that some, often justly, find to be a bore. That you appear to be one of these is nothing to speak lightly about. It's a grievous fault.
@@Nerdporeal You must be an Alien not to have heard of this film before
Haha. No one i knew watched stuff that was older than them when i was in school in the 00s. Hence why i was made fun of for being open about watching original star trek as a 6th grader. I owned the tapes from the 90s. I am the exception sir haha. This movie i didnt know about until internet and grrm recommended it
Also Metroid!!!
One of THE BEST pre-modern cinema sci-fi movies of all time - Hell!.....it’s even better than most of the dross, diversive, woke cr@p we have today (yes Marvel.....I’m looking at you!)
Forbidden Planet would never be made today the way it was. An all male (and Caucasian) crew was a thing of the time. Stories then were told based on classic structure and in this case, Shakespeare
I was so disappointed to hear this guy gig the movie on the casting of white people. SO SICK OF WOKE GARBAGE!!!
It was a minor nitpick. You've seen Star Trek right? The future in the stars will involve the best of all of us. I love this movie. If you watch my channel im the opposite of that word that rhymes with broke
@@timpatrick2109 Yes! I get you! 🤣🤣🤣
Not sure I'd be able to resist the temptation to utilize that mind enhancing device before fully understanding it's impact. I wish there was more information/exploration about what happened to the Krell. How hard will it be to increase the ability of different aspects of our brains? Does it become increasingly difficult to keep ones sanity? Do animals with simpler brains have any psychological issues? How did the Krell balance pleasure and pain during their brain enhancements? How should we in the future?
I think the Monster generated by the Huge machine killed them off
All it took was one Krells Id to do the deed
@@Nerdporeal But it was ALL of them at the same time creating killing monsters from the dark, vestigial, primitive, parts of their un/subconscious minds, their "Ids". It's all explained very well at the end of the film when Morbius is killed by his own monster. Go back and see it again and listen this time.
@@ronstancil1 Well, it was many monsters. Each Krell subconsciously created its own monster killer from the depths of the darkest vestigial parts of their un/subconscious mind, from their "Ids".
The novelization of the movie (and the movie itself) makes it clear that the purpose of machine was to allow the Krell to create life by mere thought. The earth animals were Morbius' experiments in creation. The Krell completed their machine, turned it on, and it worked! But in that moment everyone's base instincts were made incarnate. It was all over in a matter of minutes, and they never knew what hit them. The machine was still "on", just waiting for someone with the mental ability (conscious or unconscious) to operate it.
Morbius knew what the final goal of the Krell was - to create life. It was his goal too, as he regarded himself as their successor. According to the notes of Dr. Ostrow (yes, he made notes while using the machine) Dr Morbius was approaching the point where he too, like the Krell, would destroy himself.
The educator, or "gateway", as it is referred to in the novelization, was made for the Krell brain. The human brain could handle short sessions. The temptation was to stay plugged into the gateway to long, enthralled by its ability to enhance one's understanding. Doctor Ostrow, aware of the dangers, nevertheless made this mistake.
A family classic of mine.
And don't call me SHURLY
I just wanted to let you know.....we're all counting on you...
Classic movie,
After all those years this movie still ends up in my top 10 of all time. The atmosphere is amazing.
Oh my God....yes. Between the unique sounds and the visuals, you feel you are truly in an alien place.
@@Nerdporeal indeed, but since I seen this movie often it has also started to feel like coming home. Ah the magic of time✨
God forbid that they EVER try to remake this truly groundbreaking classic.
@@davidkeefe2655 indeed, it can only disappoint. They should not touch it. Just like this week I heard Hwood is gonna remake Vertigo, my God that is a shame 😳
Agreed with Kenshobeats, remakes now never capture what made the originals great in the first place and do the opposite of enhance the experience. They make it less..... Shamefully for a cash grab using nostalgia bait
Definitely a movie for all Trek fans... Pre-Trek if you will.
Proto-Trek. The original series followed the same general format with the lead actors.
@@jamesbuchanan4414 Agreed. All those years of watching TOS I was like, how have I not seen this?
Yes, Gene Roddenberry told me he was inspired to create TREK from FORBIDDEN PLANET.
He needed a model, he got one.
My favorite film as a kid, and each viewing, as I grew older, I got more out of it. I believe that this was one of the films rescued by Wade Williams. Great visuals provide by old school Disney animators.
The fun part is that Leslie Nelson was a comedic actor, and didn't know it!
As reported in Starlog magazine, Wade Williams did indeed rescue the soundtrack electronic tonalities via a transfer to vinyl. This was later also rescued onto CD. I have copies of both.
Whether Williams was involved in the movie's rescue to disc, I don't know. I have that on DVD, but it is also available on BD. You have probably noted I am a devotee, and I have several colour lobby cards, as well as a kitset Robby that I lovingly detailed some years ago. The very large Polar Lights C57D kitset remains under construction... perhaps when I retire. :-) If you search RUclips you will find how more serious devotees have given this kitset LED lights, and even kitbashed it to show other rooms not seen in the movie! So the movie has a HUGE following still.
@@ronstancil1 Nothing to see here.......
That's funny, because I was thinking "Those special effects look like they're right out of a Disney movie from this era."
You can't miss the influence this movie had on the original Star Trek. And Leslie Nielsen would've made a pretty good Trek captain. Too bad he never got to appear in any films or episodes
I saw this after seeing TOS and I Had to talk about it. So I did here...
"I am serious". "And don't call me shirley"
Jeffrey Hunter's Foolish Second Wife Convinced Him Not To Try Out For The Captain In Star Trek.
I can imagine Leslie Nielson saying "Damned you and your logic Mr. Spock" as he "jettisons" a load of hot gas into "space"
Seriously, he'd have been great.
It supplied a lot of stock footage for The Twilight Zone and The Time Tunnel. The Id monster was a wonderful original.
Never saw the Time Tunnel. Any good?
@@Nerdporeal I saw it many years before I knew what I was watching
This is one of the movies that should never be rebooted or re-worked.
I totally agree. They would NOT do it justice at all. The lack of creativity and risk Hollywood takes is astounding. Thank you for watching this video. I have covered other films with my most recent examples being Dirty Harry and Planet of the Apes.
What a GREAT movie. I saw it when it first came out and was totally impressed. Nothing like it for DECADES!
Must of been a next level theater experience!
Excellent video! And I agree, this SF classic doesn't get enough praise nowadays. The strange unearthly atmosphere, the gorgeous sets, the weird alien sound FX, and what a fantastic adaptation of Shakespeare's play. Liked & subscribed.
Thank you, it's one of my earliest videos so it can be a little rough around the edges. My most recent movie I did was Planet of the Apes. I appreciate the feedback
@@Nerdporeal You're welcome. I will check it out.
I just watched this a couple years back, and I noticed that Altera was only attracted to the Captain as she has only had her father as an example of a man in her life. A true Daddy's girl.
Cmdr Adams yells at her for arousing his men in a fatherly way so yeah I agree!
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How have I never seen this!?
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this is so cool, i never knew where that droid was from (as he was similar as the robot in Lost in space yet different) love all the research you did on this.
He actually appeared in an episode of Lost in space together with the robot
Robert Kinoshita designed both Robbie and Robot B9 from Lost In Space
Sci Fi allows us to explore philosophical questions that simply couldn't be explored in any other genre. Forbidden Planet exemplifies this.
A reason why I love it so much. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent!
Forbidden Planet. One of the best.
I'm thinking you could have also mentioned how TNG's Lt Barclay (Broccoli) was zapped by that probe and given increasing intellect. Not sure it credits back to this film. I wonder what human first thought of the idea to increase intelligence thru technology.
TOS Spocks Brain directly references this. As for increasing intelligence through technology? Probably HG Wells and his cautionary sci-fi...
@@Nerdporeal isn't Prometheus and the gift of fire basically increase of intelligence through technology tho? "Nothing new under the sun"
Prometheus violated the Prime Directive hence his everlasting punishment of torture
Can’t wait for more content!! Awesome video
Congrats on your graduation dude. Welcome to the real world where it is a plethora of problems to be solved...one at a time. May the Wings of Nerdporeals Fly you to Greatness...
At 10 yrs old this movie was the genesis of my Si-Fi love. I think I went to it 3 times in 1956.
My dad was born that year and honestly, no one in my family saw this movie. I found this believe it or not through watching Halloween and then the author of Game of Thrones said this was his favorite sci-fi of all time so I watched it and couldn't believe how much popular science fiction "stole" from this so I was compelled to make this video. Thank you for watching this by the way. I recently covered the original Planet of the Apes
I was 10 when Star Trek first came out, and I geeked out over it similarly, though I loved syfy even before that. The 1950s and 1960s were the greatest times to be a syfy-loving kid.
95% of the special effects are still good by today's standards. This was the first scifi movie that granted the viewers some intelligence, some level of education and had plot that went beyond boy meets girl, kills evil monster, saves day.
I think Day the Earth Stood Still was the first but this takes it to another level....
I’ve never believed that the Deer and the Tiger were brought back to Altair IV by the Krell 200,000 Years before, but rather I’ve view them as creations of the Machine since they appear to be the only animals on the entire Planet.
Very interesting take. Perhaps both could be true
@@Nerdporeal plus I have difficulty seeing the Tiger living off Grass as opposed to Venison.
What I still don't understand is why the tiger tries to attack them, when it's entirely uncharacteristic of the animal to do so.
@@ZenMonkeyGod As Altaira began to be more interested in the Captain and leaving with him for Earth, her father began to disapprove of her actions. Her prior ability to walk with the wild animals was the result of her father's Id being pleased with her. It is an indication of her father's changing attitude towards her and leading up to the "monster from the Id" attacking their home and Robbie freezing up when Morbius told him to kill the monster, he couldn't because he knew he would have to kill Morbius to stop it.
@@ZenMonkeyGod it's all bound up with mythological symbolism. At the time the tiger attacks Altaira has lost her innocence and fallen in love with the captain. The animals were only under her control whilst she remained innocent and virginal.
For all it's 50s trappings, this film is one of the most intelligent sci fi films ever made. The writers knew their classical literature, as well as their hard science fiction. I don't think Asimov, Clarke, or Bradbury could have written a better story.
I love Star Trek but I love Forbidden Planet more.
Two words. Anne Francis.
Yessss. Agreed. Thanks for watching. I've been covering other films too
Popular Or Not, Definitely Way Ahead Of It's Time.
Good Thing Great Movies Not 🚫 Based On Popularity.
Seaview's atomic window?
Come again?
Great synopsis, I look forward to the next one!
Somewhere in development hell sits a two movie remake written by J. Michael Straczynski, the creator of Babylon 5. The first movie would be a prequel of sorts, showing the crew of the Bellerophon, and their experiences on Altair 4. The second movie would be a remake of Forbidden Planet, however, as the original was attempting to show the Krell technology as advanced as the film creators could imagine, the remake would not attempt to duplicate the look, but would show them to be as advanced as we can imagine today.
I think JMS would have been perfect for that. The planet B5 is orbiting is pretty much a straight up copy of the underground Krell facility.
@@Nerdporeal Yes, the great machine on Epsilon 3 was a homage to Forbidden Planet.
A great film far ahead of its time. I saw it at a theatre and it was a wonderful kid movie. In regard to your comments about diversity. Need you be reminded that this is a 1956 movie and diversity is over rated even in present day. But I agree that crew members rushing the monster with pistons and rifles when huge weapons are not destroying the monster doesn’t make sense.
Thank you so much. I appreciate the feedback. The Diversity part is a minor nitpick on my part. If you wanna see more content, I recently uploaded a retrospective on Planet of the Apes.
I love Forbidden Planet and saw absolutely nothing wrong with the casting. It’s a classic and wokeism didn’t exist in the 50’s. Black people don’t have to be inserted everywhere.
I really appreciate your view. I wasn't thinking of wokeism when I said that. I'd like to think the future when humanity ventures into the stars will be united together so a diverse crew in the future like in Star Trek makes more sense. It is a minor nitpick on a great film that I believe doesn't get the credit it deserves for inspiring most franchises today.
@@Nerdporeal You're absolutely right but back in the 1950s I guarantee you that very few people even thought of things like "diversity". Back then whites were dominant and that's all there was to it. It took another ten years and the rise of the civil rights movement (and the empowerment of people like Gene Roddenberry) for things to start to change.
I love the special effects for the ray guns and perimeter force field. It's low tech but looks really good. It looks like they composited in footage of water rippling.
You're right it does look like that. The practical sets and the animation are second to none
My view the special effects are sufficiently detailed to enhance the story, not try to top the story. My favorite scene is the power plant 20 miles 20 miles in either direction. Tiny people to give a sense of scale of the power plant. Simple but effective.
It's the only time Disney animators worked on a non-Disney project. It's all hand-drawn animation.
Seems There's Threads 🧵 From WW2 Here, With Sounds Similar To Anti-Aircraft Guns When They Try To Fight The ID Monster.
For me this period is all about cowboys, aliens and monsters.
Some of my favourite films from the 50s:
The day the earth Stood still
All about Eve
Ben Hur
The Mummy
Night of the hunter
The Dambusters
Dracula
The Ten Commandments
La Strada
Godzilla
Quo Vadis?
Vertigo
Ace in the hole
Shane
North by Northwest
The curse of frankenstein
Rebel without a cause
The forbidden planet
The searchers
A night to remember.
I wouldn't say its as good as the 40s or 60s though.
I will have to add those films to my list. I have only seen a few of them like the Hitchcock ones and a few of the epics.
Leslie Nielsen is amazing in this film, surely 🙂🙂🙂🙂!
LN : "Absolutely and without false modesty .
And don't call me Shirley 😉😉😊😊!"
Leslie Nielsen is the prototypical Star Trek captain, before Kirk and Picard. You DON"T call him Shirley. Thank you for viewing this video, I have covered other science fiction films with the most recent being Planet of the Apes.
I had heard about this movie forever and had heard it was one to watch but put that off because of the year it came out. Then one day I had time to kill and saw it on streaming and gave it a try. I was pleasantly surprised at how thoughtful and actually good looking the movie actually was, and not nearly as corny as I had thought it would be. It was interesting seeing Leslie Neilson in a serious role, but of course almost all of his movies and TV shows were serious before he did Police Squad and The Naked Gun. Give it a watch!
Shirley you can't be serious!
@@Nerdporeal I am serious....
And don't call me Shirley.
The first time I saw this was in the 1980's late at night and i was stoned. It blew my mind with the story, quality of film and concept. I have watched it many times since then, while not being stoned, and it remains at the top of my favorite film list.
Thank you for sharing that! It blew my mind how much Star Trek and even Star Wars borrowed from this. That's the main reason I made this video, was to point all that out!
I grew up watching this on TV then saw it in a theater as a teen. They had robbie in the lobby after the show. This I believe was the first sci-fi to be produced as a serious film and it lead the way for many others.
Other than original release I am curious when they rereleased this in theaters?
@@Nerdporeal it was in the 70s an unannounced showing my parents got a random invite to. They (parents) joined all kinds of clubs back then, mostly weekend trip offers, news letters, other advertising gimmicks. Anyway they got an invite to attend a movie showing ( with a ticket purchase of course lol).
Anyway it was a double feature, Freaks and forbidden planet. Strange combo but I was surprised they had robby in the lobby after the show. It had recorded responses and I assume a theater worker inside to make it move. It was stationary though not moving around. As a kid I was very impressed. I dont think it was the real one used to make the movie though. A copy most likely, but it was a good one.
It wasn't uncommon practice back them, I was offered a bunch of tickets to game show which didn't interest me. Lol they where persistent when I didn't want them lol.
@@Nerdporeal oh one more thing, they got other invite too, some to premiere of movies not yet released. Always at different theaters. One I remember was black Christmas, a college serial killer thriller. You would get a reaction card afterwards they collected at the exit.
"Robby in the Lobby" would be a great title if you ever write a song about your childhood. Depending on when you saw it, it might have been one of the replica Robby things built by fans over the years.
@@majkus that though gives me a shiver. I love music but an off key croaking frog and a cat catching a chalk board sounds better than my singing. Lol
"non-diverse crew"
Yeah, it was a product of its time. I prefer the Star Trek style of crew.
What do you mean? They had an alcoholic ship's cook, how much more diverse do you need to go in the mid 50's?
If they ever do a remake of this movie. Benedict Cumberbatch would be great as Dr. Morbius
Will he say....It's Morbin Time and morph?
The jaded, super visual effects-bludgeoned dead-end kids who go to movies today have no idea what great sci-fi-storytelling can be without seeing FP, perhaps the greatest sci-fi film ever in terms of plot & story. It is densely layered with sharp Fruedian psychology & a warning to humans of how they risk the same fate as the Krell, the super-race that was mysteriously annihilated overnight thousands of years prior. True, the characters, some of the action nuances & some of the dialogue are fairly 1950's Saturday morning matinee. But the story conceit is still quite brilliant.
This movie is brilliant and thee reason we got great movies thereafter. This movie does not get enough credit for that in my opinion.
Disney’s animation department was brought in to animate the “ID” creature caught in the barrier and the gun effects in the scene where the tiger is disintegrated (and the scene where Robbie gets locked into the “must not kill man” loop)
Back when Disney was an innovator. Now all they do is repurpose and can't even do a good job with that
@@Nerdporeal And when they did The Black Hole - Now THERE is a movie! 😀
Brilliant? Yes. Imaginative? Yes. Ahead of its time? Yes. Influential? Yes. Classic? Most definitely. Underrated? No. Not by anyone who appreciates cinema and/or is a fan of science fiction.
It is virtually universally held by such to be the main influence upon Gene Roddenberry's "Star Trek", Lucas's "Star Wars", and many other classic science fiction films and television shows.
So, then, who underrates it? I doubt that anyone who likes science fiction and who has seen it does.
For those who, by their comments, evidently didn't get the premise of the film:
Each Krell subconsciously created its own monster killer from the depths of the darkest vestigial parts of their un/subconscious mind, from their "Id". The "monsters" were empowered by the Krell's discovery of the ability to create physical objects by simply thinking about them - "non-instrumentality".
This, combined with their minds' un/subconscious ability to individually harness the power of their "huge machine" made each Krell the un/subconscious and unintentional creator of a virtually infinitely powerful monster formed from the most primitive, dark, violent vestigial part of their un/subconscious minds.
In this way the gentle, intelligent, technologically advanced Krell (like Morbius, whose subconscious mind created a monster to kill Captain Adams for wanting to take his daughter away) destroyed each other while never realizing what was happening to them and who was doing it. They were killing each other without realizing it.
Morbius believed that if the Krell technology, such machines, and such power ever got into human hands, that the human race would ultimately destroy itself in the same way. That is why he pushed the planet-destruct button.
I disagree with the bit at the very end "...we are, after all, not god". The Krell didn't think that they were god. There is nothing in the story to indicate that they had any religious concepts at all. Perhaps they had outgrown and become too intelligent to have such, and maybe this rankled certain religious critics, as mentioned below. The Krell had advanced their technology beyond their ability to understand or to control it, an obvious analogy to human nuclear weapons.
As I understand it, that "... we are, after all, not god." bit was added as a jump-cut insert at the very end of Principial Photography (if you look carefully, you can see the jump-cut) to appease religious critics who misunderstood and feared the film's "atheistic" premise. Not so long ago, religious sanctimony of that sort was quite prevalent and quite powerful throughout society. Thankfully, we, as did the Krell, are beginning to outgrow it.
The same sort of sanctimonious people made Disney add that last, terrible "Ave Maria" bit to the otherwise excellent "Fantasia". They didn't like the film ending with the Satanic "Night on Bald Mountain", arguably the best thing in the film. Disney should have told them to shove it, but it was 1940, Walt being who he was, and religions, as since the Dark Ages, unfortunately then wielded a lot more cultural, artistic power.
Honestly, outside of major film and sci-fi fans I don't think most people nowadays no Forbidden Planet despite the fact that it's influence is still largely present in the current milking of franchises nowadays. My family never heard of this film, I only discovered this through Halloween 1978 and GRRM
@@Nerdporeal Well, "major film and sci-fi fans" includes a lot of people such as you and I, and, as you said, we all know Forbidden Planet very well. As for the rest, they don't appear to know much of anything at all, so who cares about them?.
I love this film but I laugh when the crew of the spaceship that has just travelled Millions of Miles goes gaga over a robot!
Well if a robot could replicated hundreds of gallons of alcohol, wouldn't most people? LOL
With all respect, you really have to stop characterizing the fame of films based only on your perspective - Forbidden Planet is not under-rated, it's long been acknowledged as a classic and pioneering science fiction movie, surpassed only by 2001, A Space Odyssey.
Compared to other science fiction it is very underrated and undeservedly so based on how influential it truly was. It is truly a classic but not as widely known as it should be
@@Nerdporeal stop it, its not underatted. its literaly considered one of the best sci fi movies eva
You have to have a total babe; Anne Frances!!!
Probably the best SciFi movie ever made. But you made one error. Adams brings the evac reregulation from knowledge. He never contacts earth.
Thank you for watching. I was rusty when I did this, one of my earliest videos. My most recent is one for Planet of the Apes.
The radio was destroyed by the monster they couldn't communicate with the Earth
I have loved this movie since first watching it from TV repeats as a kid in the 1970's. Yes, this is also one of my top sci-fi movies. Several years later in the 1980's, it was funny & surprising for me to retroactively discover that Leslie Nielsen from Naked Gun & Police Squad was the serious captain in this movie, because he did not have white hair yet back then. There are also more familiar faces in there from 1970's shows that I regularly watched, such as Richard Andersen from Six Million Dollar Man, & Earl Holliman (the cook) from Police Woman. Back in the 1980's, I was also into sound/keyboard synthesizers & there was an article in Keyboard Magazine about the Barrons, so I have known about their electronic scorework here since back then. There are some youtube videos here having upscaled some scenes in HD, like maybe around 4 or 5k. They look amazing & somehow gives you a different sort of nostalgia. I wish someone would A.I. upscale the entire movie, to maybe 4k or 8k, including removing any jitter & film scratches & also a music remaster. I believe there was also a reboot in the works, but it might be in development hell at the moment.
Leslie Nielsens performance is iconic....the prototypical Federation Starship Captain
Yes, I guess the cultural standards are much different than today. But would the movie be as good if it was made with "modern" norms? The cast was relatively small than might have been used today. But speaking of the cast, look up the actors in this film. They had long careers in TV and movies. This movie is almost 70 years old but still holds up.
Looking into the future i prefer to see all of humanity working together the way Star Trek did it. Nowadays... Modern standards outweigh storytelling and acting chops. I agree Forbidden Planet still holds up today
@@Nerdporeal
The movie is perfect the way it is I wouldn’t change a thing.
I was 9 when I watch it firs time and I was amazed. It's deep. It has a strong message. And the effects are still convincing today. I loved the beast.. and after 60 years I find it on YT! what a gift. Last one... no diversity.. good idea. In Star Trek you see the first interracial kiss on TV and you can't imagine what happened thereafter, seriously.
Do you know what the racial makeup of America was in the 1950's? I'd say you are going to have to give the film a pass because of the color of the cast's skin pigment. Is the color of one's skin pigment what makes humanity "diverse"? A physical trait that someone is born with and has no control over?
Yeah, I know, I was kinda tongue in cheek because I am a huge Star Trek fan and see the future as the best of all humanity working together to conquer the hazards of deep space.
Coolest movie EVER !
A psychologist’s wet dream! 😀
Kids back then, learning what the Id is....
One of my favorite films of all time.
Seeing how influential this movie was, I needed to talk about this
In the Top 5 Science Fiction Films of All Time! .... My Top 5 : The Day the Earth Stood Still, Forbidden Planet, 2001, The Planet of the Apes, The 5th Element .... Discuss!
@@jamesalexander5623 My Top 5?
1. Forbidden Planet (1956)
2. Godzilla (1954)
3. The War of the Worlds (1953)
4. Planet of the Apes (1968)
5. The Blob (1958)
Planet of the Apes will be my next review retrospective
they might have advanced on the monster thinking their weapons, being energy-based, would have more effect closer-up. That was my take on it when I saw it.
"Influentially" is an adverb. Adverbs modify adjectives and adverbs. "Influential" is an adjective, and modifies nouns. So is Forbidden Planet "influential"? Absolutely. Is it "Influentially underrated", where "influential" modifies "underrated"? No, that is nonsensical garbage use of language. Its supposed underratedness is not somehow influential.
Everybody mispeaks so this isn't the end of the world, but come on, it's the TITLE of your video. At least get the title right. "An Influential, Underrated Classic".
Noted.... Did you like the video?
The story is based on an ancient Greek play called " Bellerophon ". Which just happens to be the name of Dr. Morbius' ship.
Forbidden Planet has all my life been my Top 1 Sci-Fi movie. Even today the special effects are stunning.
I guess it's an age thing but calling Forbidden Planet 'Underrated' is misleading. It was a critical AND commercial success on release and has only grown in stature since.
The best film in si-fi and i have seen most of them.
The greatest movie in all science fiction.....is Spaceballs...
I saw this movie with my brother when it first came out. After seeing it we went to the movie theater next door and saw The great locomotive chase.
Nice review, thank you for posting this. However, this is NOT underrated ....Everyone is overusing the word "underrated"
"Underrated" is overrated haha. Sure, I just feel it doesn't get enough recognition in the grand scheme of things today. Older people scifi fans adore it but younger fans and most normies like parents never heard of it so I didn't discover it until recent YEARS after I watched Star Trek and was like, "how did I not know of this?"
@@Nerdporeal That's awesome! Glad you're getting into older media. Spread the word!
One of my all time favorites, lucky to have seen it on the big screen. It was never under-rated, imo. The flying saucer was used in at least 4 Twilight episodes.
Thanks for sharing. I honestly never heard of this and never realized just how important it is to cinema in general
This is a great movie - I love the classics - my channel does classic reviews also. I would love to have you on to chat classic movies at some point
Have always loved this movie and loved Leslie Nielsen as the caption of the ship and crew. As a kid I imaged myself as being on that ship and planet, but not getting killed by the monster.
Agreed. He was the prototypical Starfleet Captain.
Another great ultimately optimistic (though we have some tough times getting there) view of Mankind in Space is 'Things to Come' from 1936. After launching a rocket ship carrying his daughter and Passworthy's son on a dangerous exploratory mission for which they might not return:
Oswald Cabal: There! There they go. That faint beam of light.
Raymond Passworthy: I feel that what we've done is monstrous.
Oswald Cabal: What they've done is magnificent.
Raymond Passworthy: Will they come back?
Oswald Cabal: Yes, and go again and again, until a landing is made and the moon is conquered. This is only a beginning.
Raymond Passworthy: And if they don't come back? My son and your daughter. What of that, Cabal?
Oswald Cabal: Then presently, others will go.
Raymond Passworthy: Oh, God, is there ever to be any age of happiness? Is there never to be any rest?
Oswald Cabal: Rest enough for the individual man - too much, and too soon - and we call it death. But for Man, no rest and no ending. He must go on, conquest beyond conquest. First this little planet with its winsome ways, and then all the laws of mind and matter that restrain her. Then the planets about him and at last out across immensity to the stars. And when he has conquered all the deeps of space and all the mysteries of time, still he will be beginning.
Raymond Passworthy: But... we're such little creatures. Poor humanity's so fragile, so weak. Little... little animals.
Oswald Cabal: Little animals. If we're no more than animals, then we must snatch each little scrap of happiness and live and suffer and pass, mattering no more than all the other animals do or have done. Is it this? Or that? All the universe!? Or nothingness!? Which shall it be, Passworthy? Which shall it be?
The "lack of diversity" as you put it, is one of the things I like most about the film. The old fashioned interplay between men and women felt far more normal and natural to me than 90% of the crap I see in movies and tv today.
The book "The Mote in God's Eye" was criticized for having "backwards" societal mores; an emperor, women segregated from and protected by men. The excuse in the book was that during the secession wars and the collapse of the 1st empire, women needed to be preserved and the natural paternal instinct to provide for and protect women came to the fore.
IIRC, Pournelle defended it by saying, quite rightly, imo, that there's nothing presuming that current moral, cultural and social mores will continue into the future. Starship Troopers, the book, also presumed a return to traditional gender roles, with the gawdawful movie Starshit Troupers erasing that for the sake of brainwashing people into thinking that the left's view of the future is the way the future is _supposed_ to happen.
I always look anxiously for SF movies and stories that correct the modern insanity at some point in the future and give us the kind of future as portrayed in Forbidden Planet. It gets tiring watching show after show where the "future societies" are either variations of today's cultures, or the fevered imaginings of left-wing ideologues.
Great points. Im actually with you on this but seeing into the future, going into hazardous space takes the best of all of earth kinda the way original Star Trek did it a decade later. This is one of my earliest videos so my bad on that. You arent the first to point this out but you wont be the last...
Who says it's underrated it has always been held in high regard.
Back then sure. Nowadays it's overlooked and not talked about enough. I don't think it gets enough attention for how important this movie truly is
i hope you continue to do analysis/reviews of these older movies. thats one thing RUclips lacks. It has plenty of film content but not enough breakdowns of old cinema
Sure thing. 2001 is my next video in that regard. I appreciate it. I also did a similar video on Planet of the Apes
Forbidden Planet is one of the only sci-fi movies that matter.
What the Hell ?
This movie from the 50’s wasn’t DIVERSE enough for you, not enough gay, transgender, Chinese or crippled people.
The rest of the breakdown of the movie was good, but please don’t virtue signal during a critique.
That wasn't my intention. I am of the mind that the Final Frontier and its incredible vastness and hazards requires the best of humanity from all walks of life. The way Star Trek did it. A minor nitpick
This has been my go to favourite science fiction film, and probably my all time favourite film, since I was a child. I was born in the same year this film was released so that gives you some idea. As a child I always wanted to see the ID monster as it was deemed too scary for TV viewing in the sixties by the censors and it wasn't until the early 80's that I saw this while living in London.
I have multiple models of Robby, he is simply the coolest looking robot of ANY sci-fi movie.
You are the same age as my father. Im glad i discovered this one because no one in my family saw it and they consume a lot older films too. Was blown away how Pre Star Trek this was
As I commented at another location before I happened upon this video, what if FORBIDDEN PLANET had struck a cord with movie goers at the time and there had been a series of follow up movies similar to what took place with STAR WAR? Would there have ever been a STAR TREK?
Very good question.... I think there would have been with the progressivism of Roddenberry and the allegory of the times. It probably wouldn't be exactly the same and probably would have drawn from those hypothetical sequels too. Would they have been as good as the original? Sequels then usually weren't, not until Godfather Part II
A parsec is the distance from our sun to he earth, about 81/2 minutes at the speed of light
A spaceship traveling faster than that would travel many light years "a year out", not "6 parsecs" a distnce of less than one light hour.
It's logical to assume that the incorect use of the term 'Parsec' dates back to "Fatal Planet" which involved a trip to the planet Mercury, such a spiral course would be severl parsecs, which makes more sense.
Spock out.
Indeed
I'll tell you I was really on my way to liking what you had to say, how you said it and ready to hit the subscribe button until you said and I'm paraphrasing, "this movie shows how it is outdated by its lack of diversity " there was something after that but that kind of did it for me. I don't why people of this day and age don't understand that that movie was made 60 years ago and times were different. Personally I don't think you can have good storytelling if your main concern is Diversity, Inclusion and Equity . The first letter of each of those words spells DIE and that's what is going to happen to any new movie when those three words are the basis and main theme..... And with that, I say good day.
It was a minor nitpick on my part. I love this movie but prefer the way the original Star Trek did it. Space travel outside our solar system requires all of us working together to achieve. Modern stuff is garbage like you said. Didn't mean to come off that way.
Stannis talking to Davos after Renly's death in a clash of kings:
“I dream of it sometimes. Of Renly's dying. A green tent, candles, a woman screaming. And blood. I was still abed when he died. Your Devan will tell you. He tried to wake me. Dawn was nigh and my lords were waiting, fretting. I should have been ahorse, armored. I knew Renly would attack at break of day. Devan says I thrashed and cried out, but what does it matter? It was a dream. I was in my tent when Renly died, and when I woke my hands were clean. "
Love that book. I did do a Winds of Winter video if interested. Renlys death was insane. I didn't see that coming
Great review. Only thing I would change are your suggested changes to the movie. None of that is needed. You were showing clips of "other" movies to emphasize these suggestions..... This movie came first.......and told it's story beautifully...... Does not need to take suggestions from the future to make it better. Thanks for the in depth review.
Thank you for the feedback. I wouldn't take my changes too seriously. I couldn't really think of much of anything but I liked the idea of a future where the best of the best reflects all the peoples of the earth like Star Trek did so I kinda regret saying it now. The clips of other movies are just me painting a picture of the background of this movie and 2001 had some beautiful shots to use. I will keep your feedback in mind for future videos.
Not underrated at all. Myself and a bunch of friends did a livestream a month ago. The panel spent over 4 hours discussing it. A lot of us are Star Trek fans and it's definitlely a template for Trek. The inclusion of Asimovs three laws of robotics and Shakepheres the Tempest are impressive for a 50's film.
Underrated from personal experience. No one i knew watched it and my parents had plenty of movies and knew Trek and Wars. This comes off as more niche to be celebrated by genre fans now. This isnt as mainstream or as celebrated as it should be due to its importance in paving the way forwatd for other great stuff
Babylon 5 also did homage to the Kruell underground technology. The planet it is nearest to (in the epsilon Eridani system) has a similar underground, base very similar visually. Recognized it immediately.
Yup, Most science fiction and fantasy today owe its existence in one form or another to Forbidden Planet... B5 is no exception.
Also notice which crew members are meeting with Dr. Morbius at first: The Captain, first officer and the chief medical officer. Well...
Yup, imagine if Spock and McCoy died in the Star Trek Pilot. I was surprised after watching this!
This isn't a review but a detailed synopsis. Love this classic film, but I already know it front to back so this synopsis isn't really helpful or enlightening. The few cross references are fine but they don't add up to much more than an awareness of film culture. The little analysis you provide is insightful but, coming at the end of your video, too little too late. I give you a thumbs up primarily because you appreciate the film, not because you provide any special inight.
Thank you. I made it to show how influential it was. A synopsis in my own words is necessary.
7.5 on IMDB it's not underrated, and it gets that because of it being the best looking Sci-Fi film, that still looks good today and that is something no other film from the 1950s can do it also has one of the best stories from a 1950s Sci-Fi, so underrated it is not.
Okay, I meant to say not as well known to normies since my family owned a lot of movies but no one in my family has heard of this one. I feel it doesn't get the credit it truly deserves with all these franchises that have borrowed ideas from it and became more popular overlooking this one....
16:05 "Having a none diverse crew." Give us a break. A woke condemnation wasn't really required. This was the 50s.
Was a minor nitpick from me. In the future venturing into space, we need the best from every part of Earth going out into the Cosmos or Final Frontier, the way Star Trek did it. Wasn't meant to be the word that rhymes with bloke... You are not alone reacting that way, I hope you enjoyed the rest of the video
When having a non diverse cast is the only problem then I think it's safe to say its a great movie.... Everything doesn't have to be diverse. You can have a group of white people or a group of black people doing something on their own and it's perfectly fine...
I get it. I feel the best of the best will cover every walk of life from Earth in the future, kinda the way Star Trek has done. It's a minor nitpick of an excellent film.
Less a "review," and more a "re-cap with some commentary." Nonetheless: Enjoyable!
Its still a review. Not all reviews are the same and can include a recap with commentary....and its one of my earliest vids too
I had a good time with this film, it reminded me a lot of Star Trek. It looks really good on blu ray. Kids will probably find it kind of slow but I find it pretty interesting, as well as a piece of film history.
I saw this years after star trek and was like......yep, i know now what inspired the latter
It's probably been said before, but Star Trek wouldn't have been created if it wasn't for this film. After all, gean Roddenberry directly cited this film as one of the inspirations behind the creation of star trek
Total Agreement there
well done...subbed
Thank you. My latest video was a retrospective on Planet of the Apes if you're looking for equivalent content
An homage to Forbidden Planet in Serenity, where the “Research and Rescue” ship crashed on Miranda is the C-57D.
I just watched it and spotted it. This movie laid the groundwork for so much science fiction and it's awesome!
5:59 Just a small note of interest here.
The set you are looking at and is being used here, is the same set with some alterations that was used for the "Munchkin" scene for "The Wizard of Oz".
I had no idea thanks so much for sharing!
There's a lot in this movie that tells us about our self's. Very Well done Nerdporea. Your observation is spot on. Well Done.....
Thank you. I only saw this recently and was surprised how much other science fiction have "borrowed" from this film. I didn't know this existed until I saw Halloween but even then I thought this was a B Horror film. It's refreshing to be wrong and pleasantly surprised at the same time!
Forbidden Planet's actor roster is filled with Western stars.
I heard that this super woke dude was making RUclips videos about old movies that weren't woke enough so I had to come here to tell him that here on the internet.com we don't need more of this sort of woke content!
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Love you man, Walk in the Light!
Did the algorithm recommend you this video? Maybe wokeporeal could work? I will wear wokeporeal with a badge of projection.
Adams just killed Altas friend no?
Lacking diversity? What about the young woman becoming romantically attracted to the older captain when he talks to her like she is a child?
A minor nitpick. I think in order to travel the final frontier, we need to have the best of the best that earth has to offer. Like the way Star Trek did it.
JUST THOUGHT! - Could this be the inspiration for The Black Hole?? 🤔
Possibly. I think The Black Hole inspired Event Horizon
People in this time have to stop using the morality of this time for other times the guy saying oh the crew was not diverse enough give me a break this is one of the great the mistakes of people culturally is there try to apply morality level from a different time in judge other people don’t judge other people you’re not gonna capable of doing so you know you have to stand in their shoes a little while OK
I was comparing in my head to Star Trek. I personally feel if we are going to go the stars, we need to have our best from every part of the Earth. A minor nitpick on my part...
This is one of, IMHO, three classic Sc-Fi films from the 50's, the other two being "This Island Earth" (1955) and "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (1951). I should politely correct the pod-caster where he thinks FP was the first film to include interstellar travel as part of the narrative because TIE also features travel to other solar systems as a key part of its story. And come to think of it, so does TDTESS because although the viewer never leaves Earth, the protagonist is an extra-terrestrial visitor. I recommend all 3, and definitely suggest that TDTESS 1951 is superior in every way that counts to the 2008 re-make.
I have not seen This Island Earth so you may be right
It is the first film however that shows *humans from Earth* with the capability of interstellar travel rather than human-like aliens as in the other two films you mentioned.
It's a GREAT movie - and don't call me Shirley.
What is it?
A picture that moves...... but thats not important right now