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I think Jamaican should have a right to decide
Yes
Leviticus 19:34
@@MiLord_ZionThe bible said to help out those who are in need. Start by sending me some funds to help out a homeless brother.
In an age where Jamaicans are crossing the Mexican border, we’re here arguing over Haitian asylum. Haiti’s problems are way above poor little Jamaica’s pay grade. My major concern is, what happens after we grant them asylum?
They will take root and destroy the country like they destroyed their own, with rheir lawlessness, godlessness, and wickedness.
They work and rehabilitate within the society like any other people
Jamaica or any other country offering asylum is not the solution to the crisis going on in Haiti. There is no question that if Jamaica, Dominican Republic or any other country grants these 37 human beings asylum, the flood gate will burst open. Focus on solving the crisis in Haiti and the migration of people will come to a trickle and/or solved. Finally, Jamaica’s first obligation is to protect its sovereignty and citizens.
Those are your blk brothers and sisters help them lol
@@objectivehater4997why don’t you take up that responsibility. Haiti’s solution isn’t mass immigration.
Dominica don't want Haiti because Haiti like what France did to then tried the same stunt on Dominica to have Dominica help then clear that debt France so curely place on Haiti. Dominica held a permanent grudge against Haiti. Hence the total rejection of Haitian on their soil.
Well said!!!! 💯💯💯💯
@@objectivehater4997 Jamaica only respect white
When these people start doing the wrong we same one is going to blame the Government .
“These people”
It's true
This is a sad time in jamaica! But Jamaicans are going to other countries illegally and no one treats them differently
@solid-one1556 we cannot manage them hear that is why ppl leave and go in a next country.
@@solid-one1556take them in at your home. Jamaica is poor we can’t take care for our citizens much less. And when Jamaicans go to other countries we don’t get welfare or handouts. They are coming to Jamaica to be taken care of.
Don’t think it’s a good idea to have them here when you don’t know who are criminals.
SMH God help us
People in Jamaica can't find place to live, where are you going to them. Be careful of taking in more gunmen.
Chinese just got 148 acres of our land, so is not haitians taking our land
@@bladebrown4341 Let the Hatians clean it up and build on it because I don't see the Chinese doing anything with it. Unless they're planning to capture Jamaica, first.
We have enough crime in Jamaica as it is and we can’t afford to take care of ourselves much less other people I’m sorry
You understand all the concerns yet you don't care. Jamaica can't manage that capacity of Haitians when it starts raining its gonna pure real hard
Yeah imagine if 500,000 Haitians start coming in every year?
They would outnumber the Jamaicans population in less than 6 years.
@Crackshotsteph why they don't advocate for France to pay back all the money that the Haitians had to pay France. Imagine living in a country that is struggling yet you have to pay your enslavers because you are free. I would hate the government if I was a Haitian.
The constitution of a country protects its citizens.
NO, NO, NO on behalf of our majority Jamaicans
JAMAICA CURRENT CRIME RATE DOES NOT FACILITATE JAMAICA TO TAKE IN AND ADD ANY HARDSHIP ON THE JAMAICAN SOCIETY.
We have too much crime going on here, don't want anyone else to come and make it worse.
It sad what if other countries say that when we Jamaican are seeking asylum in other countries. Just assess them properly they are our brothers and sisters for Christ sake.
If it was Americans, would the decisions be the same? Are these people not able to work? Are they criminals? I think we are all the same people with the same blood. Some of you arguing might be direct family members.
@@KS-xf6on No one is seeking asylum from Jamaica dear. People just run off because they think foreign is easier.
Stop talking nonsense about rule of law,we have our laws and we are a sovereign nation,doing the "right thing",is putting Jamaica first, take care Jamaicans first ...
What Neville should have asked, which he didn't, does international law trump national, constitutional law?
Both Haiti and Jamaica are members of Caricom so what are the refugee rules between member countries?
@@dy6682 So Caricom rules trump national rules and laws? Why do Jamaicans like to repeat the obvious? The realities on the ground in Jamaica indicate that we are not far away from Haiti in terms of our socioeconomic development. In fact, simply put, these two countries have become an embarrassment to the Caribbean region. We need to wake up! Andrew Holness is just a puppet used by the US MIC to carry out their agenda. So, if we want to hasten the haitianization of Jamaica, then that"s great. I am sure misery likes company.
Jamaica has its own problem, these are gangs. Jamaican has its own issues, return them back ASAP.
Flood gate and life style
People are begging to feed the hungry in jamaica
People have no where to live love to see the Governnent takes people in when the citizen is suffering
They pass through many countries to go to America send them there
America don't want dem
For the country with the most churches per square mile it’s sad that this is even being debated
You need to think like a person with sense.
Use churches to destroy jamaica?? No Haitian here
Open your home. Haiti isn’t a friend of Jamaica. They are sending guns from Russia into our country.
If you take some, more will come and then what? If they keep coming and start taking jobs from jamaicans war will start, between Jamaicans and Haitians then when war start the country mash up, then when it mash up what are you going to do? where will you live? You have somewhere to go? if you care about haitians you and her need to go to haiti and stop the war over there.
@@julietgardiner159😂😂😂
Dose Jamaica 🇯🇲 have the resorse to take care of all these people coming from Haitians just asking watching from Canada 🇨🇦
No we dont
neither does Canada, but their doing it anyways by the thousands. @@Snd32888
Lol Born Jamaicans are not even being taken care of properly here. Many working Jamaicans are living in poverty. How can the govt. take care of Haitians?
Once Jamaica grant any asylum that will open the doors for an influx in boats coming to the Jamaican shores which will no doubt resulting in what is currently happening in America. Sorry but Jamaica got to protect its shores.
Does the constitution require the protection of all Jamaicans from both internal and external dangers?
Can Jamaica afford the influx of Haitians considering their population is over 11 million. How could Jamaican tax payers afford this
Jamaica needs help. The voters just expressed it in the election. They're not feeling it.
Jamaica’s interest must come first period. Keep Jamaican jobs for Jamaicans. Stop causing the government to expend funds on things that threaten the island security.
No please JAMAICAN don't let them in, it's a bad idea, please think about the people in Jamaica first ,
Thank you so much❤
Leviticus 19:34 😤 yall better stop…it’s not Christ-Like next thing you know God puts us in a position where we will have to seek refuge and the same faith will meet us. Babylon mentality to think of excuses not to help a fellow human
Just who is this woman ?
Type her name in Google and you will know all about her.
She doesn't have jamaicana best interest at heart. The question is strictly rethoricial. 😊
Those people don't understand the meaning of human rights. It's sad day for jamaica 🇯🇲
Do you care to explain it to them?
@@andyseverythingchem87 goggle is the right place for them if they want to know.
Jamaicans Jamaicans Jamaicans.
We are our brothers keepers!!! How would you feel if the role was reversed? We call ourselves GOD-FEARING people. Which god? And you don't seem to Fear HIM. In the end when we face THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, what will be your answer to HIM in regards to this situation? Think about it. You That Are Against Helping Your Brothers You Should Be ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. You are all looking at their skin colour, and their culture, which is the identical to ours. You are not better than these people. SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!! Remember We Serve A Righteous and Just GOD. In a few months or a year this could be Us seeking asylum. I hope and pray the government will do the RIGHT THING for Once.
You all have a blessed day and a wonderful week ahead.
One Love, One ❤.
Why don’t you take up the responsibility since you are so moved. Jamaica is a poor country in case you thought otherwise.
Ask yourself why is DR not suffering like Haiti. Haiti is no friend to Jamaica. America should take them in or your home and money can work.
IT WOULD BE AN INJUSTICE RIGHT NOW TO FACILITATE THESE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY SINCE WE HAVE NO WHERE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM. OUR JAMAICAN TAX PAYERS MONEY IS NOT ENOUGH TO ADEQUATELY REACH OUR ELDERLY AND VULNERABLE POPULATION MORE SO TO ACCOMODATE ANOTHER COUNTRY'S CRISIS
Taxes will be raised
She could take them to her home
The man that lose his hand is eye cant walk and a lot more was a worker at the gas station at long bay portland where he was chop up the person that chop him up is a haitian who is going to foot all his billhe cant do nothing for him self now who going to do
Can't trust Dem. Too much violence Dem love and Jamaica already full up with violence.
the human right and their families need to go and lived in haiti
With you on this one!!!
I am watching from Connecticut .Jamaica has its problems why take on additional problems .these Haitians needs to stay where they belong .is this lawyer going to help the security forces when they are acting up.. in new York two police officers were attack beaten their phones and money taken by men who are seeking asylum .prime minister Holness let no one dictate to you
I think Jamaica should take them in!
This lady can keep them at her house.. with her foolishness
If Jamaica was in the same position we would want other customers to help. We are not a rich country but we are in a much better position.
So you want to bring down the country? Then you blame the government! We can't help them. We have enough poor people in Jamaica who need the help.
@@FloydMckenzie-ek8yysmh it’s what God would do
All member countries in Caricom including mighty oil rich Guyana , should be helping Haiti and not leave the burden to any one country. We cannot ignore the wretched situation in Haiti .
@@dy6682The job of Caricom is to fix haiti so the people can stay there, running away from a problem will never solve it. Anyone who wants to help Haitians should go to haiti and stop the war and the gangs, that is how you fix the problem once and for all.
Woe be unto lawyers the Bible speaks about them .what about the criminals that are coming in the country do you know them? We already have enough in Jamaica we doesn’t need anymore.
WE AS A JAMAICAN SOCIETY FEEL VERY UNSAFE HAVING THEM AMONG US IN OUR COUNTRY
Most of them are prisoners. It's alleged that one is waiting on the right time to take down ANDREW. Why you woman don't rent an AIRBNB AND TAKE THEM IN?
I guess American government English and Canada says the same thing about us u ever thought about that?
@@cassandrajenkins-kx1dpYes, all countries have a right to their own opinions, okay🤡
Worry more about the trade in guns and drugs between Jamaica and Haiti , plaguing our country. Refugees are a different problem .
Who are you referring to as them . Jamaica is no way safe to be having concerns about safety from people coming from other countries.
What she needs to explain is this"rule of law" , does it trump our sovereignty,? She says it wasn't written in their native language? C'mon now ,that's not the govt's responsibility, that's why you lawyers need to provide translations to suit your clients ..we have our own problems,plus they also maybe the ones in the guns for drugs trade coming here to set up bases ....NO
Haitians themselves not treating each others good. Does Jamaica has the resources to take on Haiti's issues when Jamaicans themselves can hardly survive in their own country. Thats like biting more than you can chew. Haitians need to wake up to reality of life. Jamaica cant manage dem.
Thanks Miss Juliet
They cannot
The problem is that u see anther human as separate from yourself…Jamaica and Haiti has endless responses exactly why the west is causing all this conflict. The whole plan is to devide and conquer, break down the family unit and all our unity as a people. And yall make it so easy, because you can only see your struggle.
@@MiLord_Zionif u don't realize it this whole globalization of capitalism is not about people or color anymore. It's about if you have money or not.
We can take a few, but we can't take everyone, why are you on Jamaica to take everybody here?
Ware this lady come from
I don't know
Kmt I don't know! suh why she don't take them
@@racquelrobinson8669 that me say too
Imagine being born in this horrible hell like place that keeps getting wore and you probably loss most your family, you try to bring what’s left of your family to the neighboring country Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 got met with hate got denied then you finally got on a boat and say anywhere, you end up in Jamaica just to be put right back in your situation by them, man Haitians are our people we should look out for them recently the USA sent back hundreds of Haitians to Haiti and immediately accepted thousands of Ukrainians I think we should be the one to organize other Caribbean nations to do proper screening and rescue the good people at least the women and children yo. everyone is saying don’t let them in and these same people will say America should stay out of Haiti and not interfere, so should Haitian remain in the same situation forever? since they got freedom from France and USA this has been their situation they immediately had to pay reparations to France for freedom crashing their country’s economy instantly. so frankly the Haitian people never had a chance in the first place…
France need to help them
@@julietgardiner159 I agree but they’re not and if Caricom national can’t intervene and persuade France to do it then we should definitely help on the Jamaican passport Caricom is written boldly on the front and last time I checked Haiti is a Caricom national 🤷🏾♂️
Speak the truth bro, your well read
Haiti needs to fix the problem once and for all. running away from a problem will never fix it. They are fully capable of finding a solution to their problem.
@@jamaicanprincess4124 your logic doesn’t make sense miss the place is in turmoil people don’t have food and are being killed no proper nothing.. are you kidding me? Wol heap off Jamaicans afi find their way to other countries for better life including me and Haiti next door to us is one of the worst countries on earth how tf you think they can fix it 🤷🏾♂️ man no say non of you nav nutn fi say😒
Jamaicans have accused bahamas of hating Haitians in spite of the fact that over twenty-five percent of our population are are Haitian migrants who have little or no loyalty to the Bahamas. if Jamaica open its nation to Haitian migrants it will destroy their already struggling state. another thing you should know is that Chinese in the Bahamas only hire Haitians. We have suffered for decades with the problem, so i warn Jamaica don't cut off your nose and spoil your face.
Check out the history of Haiti and then you will see the countries which should be obligated to give refugee status to Haitians.
The Jamaican government should just wait until the violence happening now in Haiti subsides, then deny them and send them back. We already have our own battles to fight. Between crime and corruption, respectfully our cup is full!
The violence has been happening for over a hundred years , they need to do something to fix it. It will not fix itself.
I feel sorry for their situation but the government have an obligation to take care of the citizens. My mother is old and live in the country side. Where is her help if I don’t help the poor woman would die from hunger. So I ask how many old people are going through this. If people get sick there is no hospital Cornwall Reginal hospital is gone to the dogs. Take care of your citizens first before breaking your neck to help others
THANK U NEVILLE N CO WORKER🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😢😢
For a country whose citizens whom are always over staying in other countries.. should show some passion. EI, ..40 of us went to Florida to work only 12 of us came back. You know what , majority of new visa holders may not even go back after their first visit
Yes, but the USA cannot be compared to Jamaica. Alaska being the largest state in America is bigger than Jamaica and the entire USA said no - what do you expect JAMAICA TO DO? For those who said yes can build some where in the sky for these people
The Government spoke for the people
Any other decision the people should come together
The people talks
People no more tax first step
No tax ok… so you’re going to directly pay for the roads u want fixed? And the schools u need built? Hospitals? 🤷🏽♂️ gotta be realistic
How can we take in refugees while there are alot of Jamaicans running away through borders for refuge.Let me understand please
Jamaica cannot solve the Haitian crisis alone ; must be a Caricom issue amongst the member countries.
@@dy6682The Caricom nations did not create Haiti's long standing problem of poverty, instability, violence and poor governance. The problem started with France, USA interference and Haitian people themselves. These are the necessary problem solvers for Haiti's situation.
Some of these same Jamaican people who are fleeing to the US illegally are gun men, criminals fleeing from being caught by police or from others. Also when they come to the US them same one continues with criminal activities. This is very sickening smh
We would like to stand with them but at this moment we cannot because of what is going on with all the crime in Haiti Jamaica cannot take in anymore.
If u let them in u all gonna sorry they wicked people trust mi them talk bad about Jamaicans in America Jamaica go sorry
MR. Mark GOLDING - please step in and put this lady to the side with your legal expertise.
This girl is crazy
We doesn’t speak French are creole in Jamaica
Is this lady saying that if everyone that ends up on the shores of Jamaica should be granted asylum?
Yes, basically she's saying i should come to your house door and demand a place to sleep, even though theirs a potential risk that i might be a criminal 😢
She must live in a gated community.
I think that woman should buy a island 🏝 and keep all those Haitian or keep them in you know what. She said the government having the rights to decide who should come in the country so what's your point?
Please educate yourself about human rights. Because you don't know you rights so don't treated others like animals
Your name speaks for it self them and keep in you know what .Jamaican don't big as USA why Americans don't take them. u know who& what you can taking the country if just let them in just like that.
Talking about human rights why you guys don't help your Jamaican that are in need clean up your first
@@carltonbritton2944They're all talk and no action, what if i asked him to buy me a car now, what would he have told me?
So why here????
Why not…
A lot of them are online saying they don't want other countries in their countries affairs. When it comes to Jamaica, they say Jamaica is full of crime and is not a good country but still they continue to go there
@@slhluv7991 exactly my dear
@@MiLord_Zion every time you hear about Haitian refugees it is always Jamaica. So why not other Caribbean countries some times. How many of them can we truly take????
@@LadyReid90844They do go to other Caribbean countries and america but those countries are in a better position and have less crime.
I believe Jamaica should let the people stay in Jamaica look at what is happening in their country come on Jamaica
I agree that the process should be a structural one and this would ensure proper screening and monitoring of persons but reality is we don't. Not even for our own issues. The real issue is we don't have the resources here to support our own people. We also have challenges we need to address locally and is at risk of structural breakdowns. Sigh
Jamaica has the constitution right to give asylum to whom they want to give it under the law. It is a unilateral decision, and not a decision by any other government, except Jamaica. She does not know the law, based on what she is saying.
I cannot believe the comments I am reading. My Jamaican brothers and sisters. I am extremely disappointed in you. HOW SELFISH!!! What if you were in their position? Wouldn't you want someone, anyone, to lend a helping hand? These are our brothers and sisters. Think very carefully about this. Remember our FATHER IN HEAVEN sees and knows all things. Please pray for our Hatian brethrens. I pray that the court grants them asylum, in JESUS MIGHTY NAME!!!
How many Jamaican ran to UK and the U.S in the 80 during the election uprising?What if those countries said no?
@@Chris_oak80Millions of Jamaicans stayed and fixed the problem. You don't fix a problem by running away. You stay and fix it.
@@jamaicanprincess4124 that’s not the point, the point is how would we feel if those countries turn them away?
@@Chris_oak80 Those countries are first world countries, they can handle a lot more people than we can and they do turn Jamaicans away. Many Jamaicans are deported once they are caught. We all need to be logical about a solution to this problem , we can't go on feelings.
Send them home!!!!
The lawyer is try to make a career fi har self..
It seems as if this woman is looking popularity let them work out their problems
Let them go to America. They are being accepted there. Jamaica doesn’t have the capacity or resources to cater for them. Why they always running to Jamaica? DR and other countries are closer anyways.
Yes how can we take on all these ppl in this country
Leviticus 19:34
NO NO NO THEY ARE NOT ALLOW IN JAMAICA, PLEASE DONT.
This lawyer is looking for fame .
If Jamaica is taking on the responsibility to host talks, they should accept the refugees
This woman need to leave jamaica a go live in Haiti if you love them that much. Our country facing to many crimes
Remember Haiti and Jamaica are members of Caricom so what are the rules on refugees amongst member countries? We need to start here .
@@dy6682Covid is still real. People cannot just flood Jamaica by boat. It is a danger to the Jamaican society. Disease control
Welcome ALL Haitians we are black people. Over 100k Chinese come into our country for highways building, and they never left. An these Jamaicans dont have a problem with them.
Why Jamaica thou? Dominican Republic is just a border away
Shouldn’t it be easier for them to go there instead?
The Chinese not involved in crime and violence, the Chinese have and are contributing to building the Jamaican infrastructure. Compare apples to apples,not apples to oranges !!
@@johnsangster1959Let me educate you the mallee aka ecstacy thats bring use in Jamaica comes from china. A china control our ports you have no idea what china bringing into our country. The haitians are trying to remove a PM that wasn't election but put in the position after the president was murdered. Him refuse to leave or call election, so what must they do other than pick up arms? You have self hate anything black you dont like
@@spectrastudio1430Dominicans racist towards them, so too dominicans would be racist towards you since you're also black. We must accept our race what is so hard to understand?
@@bladebrown4341 aren’t most Dominicans black?? I have friends in domanica and they ain’t racist to me. U should do some research because that hatred is coming from something that me and you don’t know about. Anyway I don’t care
Can u imagine because how u look and where u were born you are judge solely by those two thing for your entire life. Process di ppl dem and arrest who fi arrest , help who fi get help and send home who fi get send home. But surely ALL a dem cant be saying the same thing for them to deny EVERYONE.
Yes , this is too much for Jamaica, other countries can help we have so much crime and violence in Jamaica band all we gonna here is Jamaican committed the crime and giving us bad names.
Jamaica cannot afford to rescue no more Haitian, time to focus on our own ppl
Why didn't tvj invite another presenter who believe they should be sent back and have a ribust debate so the Jamaican people can decide?
I am just wondering if they dont process these ppl individually. If u dont give ppl time to explain their cases u gonna make blind decisions that might be detrimental to ppl's lives.
What a joke...... we have the same problem Haiti has... We too poor send them to Canadá
Both Jamaica and Haiti are members of Caricom, so what are the rules on refugee policy .
Drugs for guns has been a long problem here in Jamaica and Haiti
This lady talking rubbish.... She want us to invite trouble to our country 😢😢 why they didn't they try mexico 🤔
Help Haiti by all means. I would rather we send soldiers to set up a safe zone in haiti.
Jamaica can not afford migrant, you are unrealistic, crime in jamaica is not in control. The island is poor the local poor need help.
Those able-bodied men seeking asylum should be in Haiti fighting for their country. That's how things work in this world, like it or not. Contemporary society has made us so soft that this belief has been relegated to an unpopular opinion, when in the past it would be seen as the obvious solution. Sad, sad, sad.
I understand her case n concern but the government of jamaica has the final say.
Question…did the Jamaican government violate the constitution in saying no to admitting these folks?..
The government can deny asylum to whoever it wants. The government's job is to serve and protect the citizen of the country.
Why that lady don't put up the Haitians them!!! We can't help them. We need water and road in Jamaica as I speak. People hardly managing on minimum wages!! Teachers are leaving doctors are leaving nurses are leaving we can't take them send them to America England Canada ect.
The worldly so big, what happened to their colonel monsters? They're the one who should help them
We don't need more problem in Jamaica, we have our own Jamaicans that needs help.
Jamaica is not taking care of its own people. So it is tough for it to accept others regardless of International Law, but if Jamaicans sit down and allow this to happen then the people have spoken.
Why not just help them
Why she no find somewhere else send them.?!!!
Jamaica has been unable to deal with their own population who are struggling. This is harsh but how would they manage to accept more people, albeit under 50. Also where would she draw the line to stop taking illegal immigrants in.
Let her look after them out of her own pocket.
I have heard this lady before and I have yet to hear her put forward a solution as to how Jamaica could look after these people.
America have the most guns in jamaica and they are not getting the treatment that the haiti get
We got so much already on our hand no outsider
I think ppl should be free to escape oppression and to go where they are safe. Also the drugs for gun issue cant be resolved by blocking ppl who need help....fix the borders. Instead of raising parliamentarians salary to an exorbitant amt with taxs payers money, what these leaders should have considered is investing in better border control. Dem dont even have two proper fishing boats fi patrol our waters.
Right now too much guns in Jamaica and no country not owning it that they are the one ship them in Jamaica, right now I want to come to my country Jamaica and scared to come because too much crime,
We cant afford to open any floods gate we already have our issues with crime already i am not judging any one personally but we have to be careful about who we taking in in our country we has a nation also has the rignt to protect our jamaica people also why jamaica isnt there any other caribbean country they can seek asylum in
Jamaica is a struggling country, not a rich or stable 1st world country. She is making reference to the issue in Ukrain when the countries that helped them were countries that could help them.
Look send them somewhere else Jamaica can’t afford to take them.what happen to other countries why Jamaica?
I know Jamaica thinks they are big, but they are really small in comparison to Haiti. Jamaica’s population is 2 million. Haiti population is 11 million. So Jamaica is big at heart, but too little to actually be a refuge for Haiti’s. You might actually get driven out of your own country.
Another attorney who corner the only game in town for notoreity. Jamaica 1st done.