Sons Of Liberty Gun Works M-76 & M-89 Rifles

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024

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  • @KitBadger
    @KitBadger  Год назад +6

    You can find links to everything here: kitbadger.com/sons-of-liberty-gun-works-m-76-m-89-rifles/

  • @evanacey1414
    @evanacey1414 Год назад +29

    Both the wedge lock (M76) and drive lock (M89) have an internal anti-rotation mechanism in the form of a stainless steel pin, half of which is contained in the upper, and half of which is contained in the rail, located just above the hole that houses the gas tube.

  • @igrathke
    @igrathke Год назад +20

    The other handguard has anti rotation too with a stainless steel pin above the gas tube. It's the same handguard as the mega & zev wedgelock handguards.

    • @DutchK75
      @DutchK75 Год назад +5

      Which is a Jim Hodge design. Hodge Wedgelock. The Hodge is in 7075-T6. And I do believe the Mega's were as well. I know that FN, Solgw and others were using them in 6061.

  • @ulflyng
    @ulflyng Год назад +25

    Lots of envy from across the pond.
    Keep your 2A high
    (edit) Luk 22, 35-38

    • @ColdWarVeteran-r2j
      @ColdWarVeteran-r2j 27 дней назад

      Hell yeah.
      Howdy from Texas.
      Time for GB to drain the swamp and arm up for freedom.

  • @bizzlebeedizzle3910
    @bizzlebeedizzle3910 Год назад +12

    What made me a believer is just listening to the solgw guys talk on big Tex podcast. From gas port size to mim parts vs properly assembled rifles. Very knowledgeable. But Mike had this look on his face while discussing what would happen to the majority of guns if they were ever shot full auto and suppressed or both lol. He says a lot of these so called Gucci guns would just choke and that the nfa is actually preventing the platform from excelling. Should we ever get our rights back, a sons, bcm, g, slew of others would be easier to convert. Just overall cool cats man and passionate about the 2a and my bcm, solgw guns have just flat out ran in classes. Nw Ohio we get every type of weather here. I’ve loaned out bcm and solgw to buds at classes after there premium build or Gucci gun failed while the not so great duty solgw, bcm, sionics and geissele ran. Plug for old bill I guess. If u shoot a lot, solgw is a good choice, if it’s just gonna sit in a safe, get a fancy queen and shoot it sometimes, then don’t lol. If sons offered a chrome lined hammer forged variant, I don’t think I’d buy anything else tbh. Springco springs, fcd safety, a5 buffer system, robust hand guard, gassed properly and warranty alone makes for a lifetime of shooting

    • @danieldotter6077
      @danieldotter6077 8 месяцев назад

      SOLGW is one of the few companies that mills the m16 auto sear pocket in their lowers. They don't have the required third hole above the safety (and drilling that out is HIGHLY illegal), but the internal milling is already complete. Colt goes the other way and has a complete integral sear block machined in. Even BCM and DD are just low shelf and could not fit true auto sear parts without significant machining, whereas SOLGW can be converted with the right jig and a drill press. SOLGW cares about our rights.

  • @slowmo7500
    @slowmo7500 Год назад +5

    My 13.7 m89 is my very favorite rifle.💯💯💯

  • @LAlonzo70
    @LAlonzo70 Год назад +4

    good video... real work results, with common ammo, thank you

  • @Pompomgrenade
    @Pompomgrenade Год назад +6

    It seems like the short barrel with a 1 and 7 twist really hates light bullets.. Cool to see the young ones involved in the testing 👍

  • @slowmo7500
    @slowmo7500 Год назад +5

    They like heavier rounds, in my experience. I consistently get 3/4moa with IMI 77gr otm.

  • @caesarselfreliance.4081
    @caesarselfreliance.4081 Год назад +5

    I enjoy my M89. It runs 5.56 beautifully but it short strokes .223 occasionally because it’s oversprung.

    • @DutchK75
      @DutchK75 Год назад +1

      Running the A5? With the A5h2? That'll do it. .223 is pretty weak.

  • @Irishknukldrgr
    @Irishknukldrgr Год назад +7

    Everybody bags on their barrels . They are "Fixing" that .Look forward to seeing what people come up with to bag on next. I want to see them have great success.

    • @aaa3d473
      @aaa3d473 Год назад +5

      I don’t think the issue is that their barrels are bad. It’s just that for the prices they ask other manufacturers offer all they do and a better barrel. For now anyway.

    • @Irishknukldrgr
      @Irishknukldrgr Год назад

      @@aaa3d473 fair.enogh.

    • @ShepherdOfTheSilkies
      @ShepherdOfTheSilkies Год назад +3

      They’re getting ZEV proprietary rifling(SEP or single edge polygonal) it’s my favorite rifling. So far they have 3 companies licensed to make it ZEV, Triarc, and now SOLGW. SEP makes a smoother bullet with a higher BC and increases muzzle velocity over any other rifling 5R or box rifling. BA and rosco used to be their barrel maker now they’ll be getting ZEV blanks or making their own at least when it comes to SEP barrels.

    • @Irishknukldrgr
      @Irishknukldrgr Год назад +1

      @@ShepherdOfTheSilkies wow ,you have the inside on that! ? I appreciate you sharing that. I will wait for what they come out with for a build with accuracy being paramount.I have a Sage 12.5 and a 13.7 broadsword upper and would like a a full blast "DMR ,SPR " with a to be named righteous optic. that leaves no questions unanswered in regards that if it doesn't produce, its 100 percent my inability to shoot it. im nobody but that's how my brain works .

    • @ShepherdOfTheSilkies
      @ShepherdOfTheSilkies Год назад +2

      @@Irishknukldrgr ZEV and triarc have been selling SEP barrels for a minute. I personally run triarc. I don’t see 1.5MOA till about 25k which so far has just been once. Still have that rifle. They’re good barrels

  • @DutchK75
    @DutchK75 Год назад +6

    SOLGW put together a really nice package. They seem to low key a lot of stuff. Their new barrel contours coming out seem really nice. But they are not their own. Very reminiscent of Criterion Core series barrels. And some of the Roscoe stuff I been seeing. But they have built relationships with people like Jim Hodge, Forward Controls and the like. And probably the barrel OEM's as well.
    I think they understand trends. They also understand that doing things right and understanding the envelope at which the system is being designed to operate at efficiently. But...There is other companies doing this to. BCM has been at the forefront of doing things right for a long time. That wasn't named Colt. Same with Sionics out of AZ. Which I'm a huge fan of. Very low key company. And not very expensive either. Their rail has a 3 bolt lockup like the M89. ...$120. Probably not as robust. But I haven't had any issues with zero degradation with the Sionics rail. My issue with SOLGW mostly. Is the price. I think Geissele makes a very good go to war option too. But are expensive.

    • @pietrmikk7083
      @pietrmikk7083 Год назад +2

      Im really interested in the siinics rail, how has it held up for you?

    • @DutchK75
      @DutchK75 Год назад

      @@pietrmikk7083 I've got 4 of them. Hadn't had a problem. But I'm not abusing them. Or using them in a professional capacity.
      I think they are made by Cross Machine and Tool for Sionics.

  • @ivancorona366
    @ivancorona366 Год назад +4

    Thats funny, I too am an Ivan with an M89 SOLGW 😂

  • @Fmily
    @Fmily 8 месяцев назад +1

    How's your blast baffle in that Sierra holding up? I've seen Dead Air cans wear out really quick when used with a flash hider, so much so that I've only used brakes on my Sandman-S.

  • @miken9484
    @miken9484 11 месяцев назад +2

    Im currently building a SOLGW ar15. It's on paused at the moment because I can't decided on barrel length. I can't decide!

    • @John-tx1wk
      @John-tx1wk 10 месяцев назад

      Have you decided yet? I haven't started building yet but I do have a lot of the components including all the lower parts. I'm also still considering barrel length.

  • @terrys.1474
    @terrys.1474 Год назад +1

    Where can I find the t-shirt you are wearing in the video?

  • @tylerharvey7468
    @tylerharvey7468 Месяц назад

    What type of grip tape is on the pistol grip??????

  • @Klopner2666
    @Klopner2666 11 месяцев назад

    Damn, what light is that at 13:45?

    • @efrenrodriguez741
      @efrenrodriguez741 10 месяцев назад

      Looks like some type of IR flashlight and laser lol 😂 I’ve never seen that one before, looks funny

  • @lon242
    @lon242 Год назад +3

    Always wondered, what's the significance of "89" in M-89?

    • @hdub6527
      @hdub6527 Год назад +5

      Constitution 🫡

  • @mattwalters6834
    @mattwalters6834 Месяц назад

    What’s the overall length of the carbine?

  • @bigshoe84
    @bigshoe84 Год назад +2

    Flexing with the no longer being made Surefeed E2 mags I see

  • @sleigh4019
    @sleigh4019 Год назад +8

    I agree ..not special just good smart QC and do it correct .. Just hard when psa sells bcg 50$ I just guy 3 lol.. But I have a bcg in my main ar15 runs great

    • @AJohnSmith
      @AJohnSmith Год назад +3

      $50*

    • @DutchK75
      @DutchK75 Год назад +3

      Yeah, but all things considered PSA is at the opposite ends of the spectrum as far as QA/QC compared to SOLGW. Those $50 dollar PSA Toolcraft BCG's hadn't had their 3-bores gauged for efficiency. Hadn't been tested...etc. Toolcraft is 100% garbage. Their claim to fame is they had a one off 750k contract with the .mil/.gov during the GWOT era. And had the cage code B1B6. And they had a recall on those BCG's. So that should tell you how good they are. You can lookup on the googles the cage code and recall on them.
      I know for a fact that BCM and Sionics recieve all their BCG's in the white from Microbest. They air gauge all of them after the parts are parkerized. And in Sionics case after NP3. If the 3-bore on any of them are not in spec they get tossed. If the firing pin protrusion is not within spec. The bolt gets tossed. It takes people to do these things and that's the added cost.
      I have two Microbest BCG's that are parked. And I have like 9 Sionics parked BCG's. ($89.00 circa 2017 and $99.00 circa 2018.) The Sionics assembled Microbest BCG's are way better fit and finish. The same OEM...🤷🏼‍♂️ Plus they have OCKS carrier key screws and Sprinco 5 coil extractor springs.
      The only really good BCG that I've seen from a OEM directly from the OEM is the AO Precision's. And those were the military overruns. Not the civ direct sales. I bought a few overruns as replacements for my Colts when the time comes. If it ever does. It plays into my OCD and paranoia.

    • @Dj1DurBreD
      @Dj1DurBreD Год назад +5

      Would always recommend spending a little more to get quality. Especially when you're talking about the part of your rifle that facilitates the tiny explosions right next to your face

    • @DutchK75
      @DutchK75 Год назад +2

      @@Dj1DurBreD That ain't no sh*t neither.

  • @caleblong2918
    @caleblong2918 6 месяцев назад

    What is the inside diameter of the m76? Awesome video man! Im really thinking wbojt muyin uone of their 11.5 variants soon

  • @howardroark9
    @howardroark9 Год назад +1

    What foregrip is that?

    • @12_nine9
      @12_nine9 Год назад

      Same question here

  • @jonnc.5364
    @jonnc.5364 10 месяцев назад

    What’s the moa @ 100 yds like?

  • @pos181
    @pos181 8 месяцев назад

    What is the foregrip that's on the 11.5?

    • @henrygonzalez360
      @henrygonzalez360 6 месяцев назад

      Looks similar to the Emissary Hand Stop. But looks bigger, not sure though.👍

  • @MedicalTape_xX
    @MedicalTape_xX Год назад +1

    what optic is that?

    • @davidcraft8524
      @davidcraft8524 Год назад

      Arken Optics EP4 4-16x50. I believe he still has a review up on it.

  • @xxdizannyxx
    @xxdizannyxx 10 месяцев назад

    They do everything to "spec", just not the barrel finish in qpq over chromed. My point is not chrome being better than nitriding, but "mil spec" overall does not mean it's better, it's just to military spec. Milspec Quality control is a very good thing, but "spec" for many other things does not mean the best.

  • @ozzy_david
    @ozzy_david Год назад +5

    SOLGW doesn’t make or build the BCG they use. It’s just a standard Microbest.

    • @bjornegan6421
      @bjornegan6421 2 месяца назад

      there are only a few OEMs that produce most of the main components for ARs. microbest manufactures theirs, but to their own spec, and then the QC from SOLGW is better than most, helping to increase the probability of getting the BCG that is in that spec.

  • @roundrock63
    @roundrock63 Год назад +1

    Awesome video
    Is that your brother or twin? 7:16

  • @mikebrown4433
    @mikebrown4433 Год назад +1

    Looks like VLTOR stock, not B5

    • @iornlint
      @iornlint Год назад +5

      He mentioned it came with B5 but swaped furniture, you're right that the stock is one of vltors

  • @rammerjammer05
    @rammerjammer05 Год назад

    Geissele urgi's checking in 🧐

    • @jaimecortez3601
      @jaimecortez3601 Год назад +2

      Don't those come with the bendi boi rails?

    • @rammerjammer05
      @rammerjammer05 Год назад

      neither one of mine say bendi boi. Both of mine say mk16 on the rail@@jaimecortez3601

    • @efrenrodriguez741
      @efrenrodriguez741 10 месяцев назад

      They fixed that issue already with the rails. It’s stupid how geissele doesn’t own up to that and also should’ve sent the newer rails to the people that went through that problem. I got my URGI upper hot to see if it would bend or anything but so far I haven’t had issues with it.

    • @jaimecortez3601
      @jaimecortez3601 10 месяцев назад

      @@efrenrodriguez741 That's good to hear that they fixed the issue.

    • @efrenrodriguez741
      @efrenrodriguez741 10 месяцев назад

      @@jaimecortez3601 Yeah, I’m unbiased even though I love their products but they’re pieces of shits for not owning up to their mistakes like other big companies do. The old rail has a different thickness but they’re almost identical in how they look face to face

  • @armorers_wrench
    @armorers_wrench Год назад +11

    I just don't understand why SOLGW rifles are so expensive. They're not actually manufacturing any of the components or at least not many of them if they are. The rails are made by Zev, the barrels are Rosco, I think the bcg is microbest or sionics or something like that. They don't offer anything that a BCM doesn't. They're actually very similar to BCM in that they are really just assembling and QC'ing the rifle.
    The barrels aren't even CHF are they? I'm not saying these guns aren't nice. They're good guns. But they're very expensive for what they are and at least BCM has CHF barrels and still costs a bit less.
    I don't mind paying for a high quality rifle. I have multiple Criterion builds with premium components. I just don't see what these offer that BCM doesn't and BCM is quite a bit less expensive. I'm willing to hear you guys out on why they're so expensive but as is I would just get a BCM with a CHF barrel and call it good.

    • @louiejones4092
      @louiejones4092 Год назад +4

      You're right they are expensive. I own their sage dynamics rifle it was 2100 dollars without sights. I think it's an awesome gun and extremely good-looking for sure. I guess I was sold on there, Warranty, even though I probably flushed that down the toilet by removing the 12.5-inch barrle for a 16-inch barrle but who knows maybe I might put the 12.5 barrle back init after all this pistol brace crap dies down. I'll say I do enjoy the hell out of the gun all in all I run a dead air sandman K on it and it just shoots so soft I've shot everything from your high end 77 grain match ammo to your cheap steel case ammo and it eats everything. It's built like a tank. I do wish it was a little bit lighter that what it is it's a heave gun but at the same time I like it because I feel I could throw it off a roof and nothing will break. At the end of the day, I'm glad I bought it, but I'm probably not going to spend that kind of money on an AR 15 anything soon, lol.

    • @benthephilosopher
      @benthephilosopher Год назад +5

      I feel the same way about SOLGW. Super cool company, but can't justify the expense. I can build a rifle with all BCM components plus a Criterion barrel for quite a bit cheaper, and who could say that would be a worse rifle?

    • @renegadearms
      @renegadearms Год назад +4

      I with you I like them and I’m supportive but my main rifle I run is a BCM.

    • @hajduk_lives
      @hajduk_lives Год назад +5

      Their M89 rails are not made by Zev, they’re made by Icon. Older barrels were made by Ballistic Advantage, only the Sage 12.5” was a Rosco and they’re not chambering barrels in house and have new profiles. Their BCG OEM is Microbest, as are Sionics. Sionics doesn’t OEM anything either.

    • @KtW1198
      @KtW1198 Год назад +22

      What makes SOLGW so expensive? Multiple things, before I answer I want to address your comment about making things in house. For some reason the gun industry has an obsession with companies making things in house and if a company uses outside components they're looked down upon. I don't understand this thinking at all because if a company can't build something in house better than an outside source why they should be punished for recognizing that and not putting in lesser components? You know who makes a lot of their stuff in house Diamondback. Are they somehow better than BCM or SOLGW because of that? Now to answer the question, firstly anything with the SOLGW name or logo on it is no questions asked covered by their warranty. You shoot out a barrel sons will send you a new one for free forever, so you have essentially a lifetime of free barrels if you're an extremely high volume shooter. You use your gun in self defense and it's taken for evidence, sons will send you a loaner till yours is returned. You have a safety that broke from hard use, sons will send a replacement no questions asked. Secondly and thirdly the customer service mixed with the knowledge they have. Mike is right up there with Chad from SOTAR in terms of AR knowledge and he is willing to share it freely. He puts his cell phone out for anyone to have and responds with advice. You call anyone at sons and they'll answer any questions you have. Fourthly kinda ties into 2nd and 3rd, they are welcoming to pretty much anyone who wants to stop by and take a tour or chill. I took a trip to TX and stopped by their shop, Mike was outside in the bar area and treated me like he knew from childhood. Never met him before but he didn't care. The whole staff was welcoming and fun to hang out with. 5thly the whole staff is vocal about their support of the 2nd amendment, they go to events and rallies and financially donate to pro 2A groups. 6thly they are extremely open about the components in their rifles, its all listed on their website. They don't hide what goes into a sons, they'll tell you exactly who the OEM is and the materials and specs for each component. All that being said I ask you, does BCM offer you a replacement barrel if you shoot out yours? Does BCM give you a loaner if you use your rifle in self defense? Does Paul place his personal cell phone number for everyone to have and actually respond? Does BCM do anything listed above? It's not just the components of the rifle, it's the company and their knowledge, expertise, openness to answer questions, clarity into everything they put into their rifle and commitment to building a solid no flash and gimmick fighting rifle.

  • @reker.a5790
    @reker.a5790 Месяц назад

    I stick with BCM

  • @bjornegan6421
    @bjornegan6421 2 месяца назад

    that is simply unacceptable accuracy. solgw is my favorite ar company, but a gun that doesn't hit what you aim at is nearly worthless.

  • @peterschmidt2849
    @peterschmidt2849 Год назад +2

    ❤️‍🔥🇺🇸👌🏻

  • @JBlakeS23
    @JBlakeS23 10 месяцев назад

    Meh… Boring gun