@@Tumultulous Incredibly difficult to pilot. His ultimate splits the hero permanently into a bunch of clones for the rest of the game. You're basically controlling 2-5 heroes at the same time who all have seperate cooldown on their abilities. So to play him you gotta understand how to macro since he's able to play several parts of the map at the same time. He's also very hard to pilot in teamfights because it's chaotic to keep track of 5 heroes at once. You can always demo heroes in the Hero menu to test them out before you actually play them. Meepo is locked on new accounts because he's one of the hardest heroes in the game. Like 10 times harder than the hardest League champs.
@@Tumultulous No, it's like the hardest hero in the game. Meepo is scary in the correct hands. His advantage is that his power spike quite early. So you need to snowball, split push to create space, denied your enemy map control by moving your heroes all over the maps. His net is very strong disable, and you can prevent your enemy from moving like eternity if your timing is on point. His disadvantage is he is very hard especially when your enemy hit their power spike. Unless you're as skilled as W33ha, or Notail, Meepo late game is kinda useless. Because now, you reaaaaaally need to micro your split. You can one tricked him, pretty fun hero. Btw, play with friends who can give you small trick and tips.
@@BobanX1 Well no. That's not actually what I was referring to. In league of legends the ingame currency is "Blue Essence" So I was basically asking if there were Rotating Heroes weekly like league, do I have to buy the Heroes I want to use with in game currency, or if they're all free"
@Tumultulous as you can see all heroes available you have everything at your disposal there is dota plus for improved quality of life impovements but its not necessary if you know how to play then you dont need that doesnt improve the gameplay if you want to play easy heroes u can categorize heroes by difficulty or you can do the all hero challenge and try every hero to see which one u play the best
This was really nice and positive. Most LoL players come with a "The game is wrong, not me" mentality. It also seems like you had a helpful chat that saved some headaches.
F1 is default bound to your hero. Double tap to center the screen on your hero. F2 is your courier. Same thing. Helps keep track of where everything is. Courier will also auto deliver/path towards you and return without micro
as for what destroying trees does, it can sometimes open up juke spots and shortcuts that weren't possible before. It's just one of those micro optimizations that barely matter in the lower bracket but can make or break a laning stage in pro play. That, and several heroes actually RELY on trees for their kit. Hoodwink, Nature's Prophet, Treant Protector, Monkey King and Timbersaw.
So the reason it asks if you may have played RTS games before is because the original Dota All Stars, which both Dota 2 and LoL are derived, was a custom game in Warcraft 3 which was a full on RTS game. So the mod had elements of RTS even if it wasn't one completely. Then when Dota 2 was made a lot of the RTS mechanics were carried over like box selecting and controlling multiple units, control groups, all that good stuff. Meepo is a good example of where you'd have to use that. Not recommended for new players, its high ceiling stuff. Dota can be pretty overwhelming, especially when you have learned habits from League. But just take in what you can, pick heroes you think are cool and just have fun learning. The games get long when both sides are bad at ending the game, but in the long games you can get crazy overpowered!
Meepo's issue is not high ceiling, its incredibly high entrance point. Back in the day it was even worse, coz you could have individual travel boots on each of the clones and it was meta.
I'm a new player too, been playing for a week now. I recommend playing Turbo, it's right under All Pick and it's a gam mode with double xp and gold gain, it speeds everything up and just feels much better for a quick game when you don't have time(around 20 min game)
Thats a horrible idea for starters in my opinion. Dota is not designed for turbo, it is made for players who dont want to learn the game and just have fun. It has its place, but its honestly a very bad idea for anew player to start their journey
@@Octarinecore-00 probably tuff guy keyboard warrior with only English on his belt :) remember...English has the poorest lexicon in all languages...let that sink in :)
@@rises889 im convinced people shout "i don't know what it's doing" for youtube/twitch acting, you can read the ability any moment, yet you keep shouting idk what its doing
Hahaha no worries, I have about 12 years in League and i'll never touch super complex champs like Leblanc or Zed. (That didn't stop me from jumping onto Meepo right away.)
I alway love seeing new people playing dota 2 The have different Shop UI selected; on the top it allows you to chose how easy or complete you wanna see it
if you want something like Yorick (mainly for split pushing), there's a lot in DOTA 2. If you want high damage hero that excels in Jungling, there's Nature's Prophet, Lycan, Beastmaster, Lone Druid and... I think that's it. I don't recommend Meepo since as others had said, they're a pain in the ass. If you want to create your own mob, then use Chen with an item called Helm of the Dominator.
Surprisingly good content for such a small channel. Clicked on the reddit link and ended up watching the whole thing. Meepo is generally considered the most difficult hero in the game due to his high skill floor and cap. Based on your description though (splitpush + summons) there is a lot of Dota heroes you would love. Lycan, Nature's Prophet, Lone Druid, Beastmaster, Chen, Enchantress, Enigma, all spring to mind. I love both games but I would say League is more action oriented and Dota is more based on strategy and knowledge. I hope you keep playing and posting as you try the game.
@@jellyboudoirjr.1235 Thanks for letting me know about the reddit post workin! And most of all thanks for the compliment! Means a lot! Maybe ill do a "ranking summoners on difficulty to learn" type video. Ill def screenshot this lidt to see who i like best
@@kenpachizaza1179 My balls were shrunken by Dota. They wont let me ;-; A lotta people seem to be commenting about Meepo maybe i should keep playing until I get to play him lol
@@Tumultulous i suggest the page where you find all those turorials just go to the very last one it's a community made tutorial. Should be both good content as well as give you all you need to know to really understand the diffs between lol and dota. It was made with love.
@@Tumultulousif you have experience with rts games like StarCraft he isn’t as hard, but if you’re used to one hero at a time be sure to practice some fundamentals and definitely use the demo often, Dota has a great practice mode and is very configurable
Seems like you have a few videos in dota for me to catch up on. I hope youre enjoying it! Its a hard game to learn and the comnunity can be brutal, but it's so rewarding when everything works out. Ive never played league but it seems like a fun game. Theres space for both! I also have fun in Smite too ngl
One thing is when you're on hero selection, when you were trying to find meepo on your first game, you can just type their names, and their portrait will glow, helps navigating heroes that way
I'm like 2 months late but as a Dota 2 nerd: the reason it says RTS game is because initially Dota 1 was a mod in warcraft 3, a RTS. When Valve hired Icefrog, the main developer associated with Dota, to develop Dota 2: they initially branded it as an Action Real Time Strategy game. League of legends, and RIOT Games by extension, popularized the term MOBA which is why most games nowadays use that term. Whereas dota went by the term ARTS for a while during its early life span. That has since changed due to the term MOBA becoming so ubiquitous with the genre / style of game, but that's what it used to be like before.
> Starting playing Dota. > Choice to ignore the tutorial. > During matchs "Wtf is that?" to something that has a tutorial about. Hahahahha Welcome to Dota dude. Hope you like it!
If the match duration is what's killing it for you, there is a Turbo game mode. It essentially gives everyone a huge XP and gold boost, so matches go much faster. It's a completely different meta from regular games because of it though, so a lot of the more advanced tips you may get for timings, farming patterns and map movement won't really apply
28:20 Tumultulous: "I have been blocked in by MINIONS!!!" Me: "YOU HAVE PHASE BOOTS!! YOU JUST DID A TUTORIAL ABOUT IT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BLINK RANGE" 🤣💀
Reminder to all my League players out there. In DOTA you defend the tower, not the other way around. Also you can click on any hero to check his abilities. Basically Q is the go home button for your COURIER.
Good game! Jakiro is a crazy strong support. best way to use his skills is to cast ult and ice path to freeze players in the ult. then cast Q and E to slow their movement. Some items strengthen your skills. Also since its an intelligence hero, check for items that increase mana regen coz you'll be casting spells quite a lot
26:50 huskar and terrorblade are heroes that want to be low health in fights (assuming there is no hard counter to that gameplay) because their abilities benefit more if they are lower health (huskar gets more attack speed and health regen the lower his health is and terrorblade can switch his health % with yours)
its so cool as an also newish player seeing somebody playing for the first time. you wanna scream "JUST RIGHT CLICK THE ITEM YOU ******" but have to remember how we were even more lost when first playing.
Regarding why the tutorial asked if you have played RTS games before is because in dota, you can manually control and pilot units you summoned and even use the spells of said unit/summon(if they have any) heroes like Meepo, Arc Warden, Beastmaster, Nature's Prophet, Lycan, Lone Druid, some of their summons and clones have spells and some don't, haven't played league in a while but if I recalled correctly, only Shaco can move around his clone by constantly pressing R(?), and Yorick too with his spells to control the movements of his mist walkers, even then the controls are limited to movement as you can't issue a manual attack for the clone or the mist walkers(kinda), so hope that clears up! Also, you made the right choice picking Wraith King! He's very beginner friendly and very similar to Yorick as hes quite tanky as well and he's one of the few "summon" heroes whose units can't be controlled, so he's very easy to use.
@@Tumultulous well given the fact the you already played one MOBA you can do that but every hero has its counter so i suggest played more than one hero so you can actually experience the game in a different way
You can change your mini map side through the options most people change side of their mini map to left side coz its more comfortable that way...and always remember to do tutorials & demo before trying out any hero the game also have option of bots mode in easy to difficulty mode...Good luck learning this accursed game though XD.
The reason why the shop UI is so small is because you're supposed to buy items while you're playing, so it can't cover the entire screen like in League or Smite.
Here is some trick. Try your hero at demo, try to focus what those skills can do and synergize with other active item> Then play against bot just to test the water> if you're confident, then play it against human. Here is some basic Pos 5(hard support): get the least farm. Your roles is to babysit your carry by harrasing your enemy, creep pulling, ward to prevent gank. During teamfight, your roles is to survive as long as you can and ensure that you activate all your skill. Jakiro is a great pos 5. E is such a great harrasing tools and ice path is like the best at saving your carry Pos 4(soft support): you need to farm for support item, normally like mekansm, arcane boots, drum of endurance. Pos 4 normally will take the lane after your carry go to jungle. Pos 4 reserve to support that can farm effectively. Like Enigma. Enigma roles is like jungler in Lol. You show yourself on the map after you got blink. Pos 3(initiator/tank): Choose your target carefully, disrupt them, and take damage. Normally resever to hero that can stun aoe. Sand king, eathshaker for example. You really need to scale, but you also will die a lot. So, start ganking after you buy some item to reduce loss. Pos 2(semi carry): Win mid, get item, help other lanes by ganking. It's the hero that can control the tempo of the game like Queen Of Pain. Buy big item, gank the enemy carry. Pos 1(carry): basically a hitter that have the highest DPS. Farm until you get your power spike, the, join the war, then farm again. Need very good farming skill but since you come from Lol, I think you definitely have the skill. Reseve to DPS hero like Wraith King, Drow Ranger, Sniper. easy to play hero but become hard due to you being the main target of your enemy. Have fun. Take your time. And use your mute button if you need to
@@TumultulousNo problem. Have fun! Dota have a lot of mode, ability draft for example, that is really fun. So try them out later. Oh also, never play ranked until you're ready to handle the pressure.
That video is insanely good for all dota players who sees someone playing like that and starting to flame them, calling dumb, reporting and ect. out of ranked matched Like yeah, can you believe it, dota still has new players and due to the lack of really good ingame tutorials its hard for them, be more poite ffs, or dota will die much faster P.s. check info about game roles (1-5 positions), i dunno is LoL rellevant to this
I'd say Dota has PROBABLY good tutorials. I'm just not fond of how it's laid out. And yeah Positions 1-5 in League terms are "Jungle, Top, Mid, Bot, Support"
I was about to lose my mind when I saw meepo, thank god you chose jakiro at the last second. By the interaction you had with the courier(you're controlling 2 units), it'd have been way too overwhelming with meepo.(6 units)
*looking champs interlude* "I think I'm going to probably try Meepo" Oh well that escalated quickly hahahah!!! Btw unless you want to move the courier to a specific spot (wich is rarely something) you can play the whole game without ever selecting it. The buttons at the corner of the screen (or their hotkeys) are more than enough to do whatever you want with the courier. You can even right-click the send button to send it to the secret shop. You can select allies or enemy heroes to check what they do and their skills. Specially usefull while you're dead. I seen you have learned a lot in the span pf this video, thanks to chat I assume. Like the use of quick-buy and such. A nice tip for Meepo: his Ult doesn't have any active so you can assign anything in its hotkey. Like "select next controled unit", so you can iterate between the different Meepos quickly. This worked really well for me but for you TAB may work better for that.
31:20 btw if you used your wand here you probably would have enough mana for your Ult. On a sidenote if you have mana problems to use your ult you can buy Aghanim's Shard so it doesn't cost mana.
It seems to me that the map appeared on the right for you because you initially said that you had already played LOL, in dota we play with the map in the left side
I also place my map on the right hand side. Muscle memory from league, but I also find that when playing on the Dire side it gives you better visibility of the lower left.
Welcome to Dota 2 where you must find order in chaos pro tip you can click on the hero portrait on the top (beside the timer) to see their skill/inventory, and also as a target for point target skill/item Also when you die you can expand the death summary on the right side, telling what and who the damages and cc come from (usually left for most dota players because the default map is on the left)
I love watching League players discover all the mechanics that give the game so much depth, that LOL doesn't have. Tower aggro manipulation, denying creeps, couriers, creep pulling and stacking, on and on i could go. League is baby's first Dota game, and that's fine. It's much more popular because it's infinitely easier to play and do well. Dota just shits on you and laughs if you suck, no mercy. Also, maybe do the tutorials. You kept becoming frustrated that you didn't know how the basic stuff worked, which the tutorials would help. You can change your settings so that when you TP or anything the camera automatically centers your hero on the screen.
I would LOVE to do A tutorial. But the tutorials in general have been aggravating even when done right. They even crashed my game a couple times. I just dont have it in me to commit to that xD maybe if it were one long tutorial
Complains how expensive everything is, then continues to invest into 2 addinional TPs while sitting on 5 already xDDD some people are buying BitCoin, while this guy is buying Dota-TPs
My guy, if you wanna learn dota learn how to pick lane first, laning phases is important, if you're not focusing on laning you'll lose the game, and of course, learn to use your role, if you're a support, help your carry by stacking camps, and giving them vision to the lane, also you need to participate on every team-fights/ganking. You will get to the point that you will learn how to do the basic stuff, also, you need to watch the timing of your teammates, if you know the situation is not very good, just try to play it out and stay positive.
If you like yorick gameplay of just staying on a lane and push it like crazy, try broodmother. She is yorick on steriods. Brood is a very thematic spider character. She likes to place webs in an area, like along a lane and surrounding jungle, and exert so much pressure by pushing, farming camps or just simply having kill threat and deny the area from the enemy. Her webs increases her hp regen and movement speed, but more importantly, grants her free movement: she can walk over any terrain and trees like they dont exist. Like yorick, she has summons too. She can spawn and have up to 24 spiderlings at a given time. But you can also micro each spiderling independent with each other.
@@Tumultulous my bad. TLDR Broodmother is great at pushing a lane like yorick. Her gimmick is having the most amount of summons in the game and free movement in her webs.
Even league players are doing better dota content than dota players Loved your video. Funny thing, when I first played league I was as surprised as you but for the opposite stuff. Flash is so short? And has a 5min cd?!!
You do not want the shop to be bigger, multi tasking is a very big part of dota, usually you shop if you know you are gonna die since dying decreases your gold
try nature's prophet or broodmother. If you want to be more active nature's prophet is your pick. While if you want to play on the same lane the whole game and eat away at their towers then broodmother is your hero
It says "i've played RTS games" instead of "I've played moba games" because dota have A LOT of RTS elements unlike League, a lot of heroes have summons or even permanent aditional units that you have to control while you play the hero.
You should really play all the tutorials, dota has been adding a lot of mechanics over the years and there are so many that all tutorials seem important tbh
"League of Legends Player Tries Dota 2 For The First Time" 2 minutes into the game: "I think I'm going to try Meepo" Lol my dude, I literally spit out my drink when hearing it
I play dota2 and LoL. Every other day. Makes me feel good someone is trying tho.😁 Btw if you're looking for a Yorick type in dota2 Nature's Prophet is the closest thing. Enjoy playing 😁
I did, just not all of them. Just too many + I didn't know which were more essential than the other. Personally I think I COULD'VE done them all if it were formatted easier on the eyes. Like maybe instead of 50 2 minutes tutorials maybe like 5 10 minute tutorials. Just feels like too much. Luckily I had some viewers to let me know which ones were more worthwhile. But I only covered 1 or 2 tutorials in the video but on stream i probably did about 15ish
I literally screaming when you choosing Meepo. You should try Blink dagger + aether lense + telescope (tier 4 token), you can go to the moon with that item combination...LOL
I find it funny how you said Jakiro's Ult was not as useful 😅. Keep at it bro snd you'll soon see the value of a perfectly placed Macropyre followed up by or preceded by the ice path! If you would like summons, play Natures Prophet, lone druid, beastmaster and even broodmother maybe. Have fun!
@@Mystikbvsn Hahaha xD I just meant in the moment. I get the synergy with his CC or teamfights. But appreciate the tips! Ill definitely try out those heroes :D
With love, and sympathy, this was hard to watch. I’m a dota player who came from league too. If you are gonna play more you should definitely do the tutorials or watch videos on it or both. It’s way more complicated than league
I totally get that Dota is tougher, but as i said in many other comments and i'll say it forever, DOTA's tutorial system sucks ass xD I'm good with learning through gameplay
@@Tumultulous game tutorials suck in general 😂 BSJ and GameLeap are the two channels I watch the most for coaching style advice as a core and for support I like quixotics or however it’s spelled. They are all great channels and have made me way better
My guy i recommend phantom lancer, sven and phantom assassin who are the most basic carries also anti mage since he can block spells and blink so you don't need blink daggers also he burns mana everytime he attacks someone (going for supports usually is key to teamfights) if you like more summons play chen and get helm dominator since his abilities can get neutral creeps as his own (pets) and even ancients (like those dragons that attacked you even though you did nothing) or nature's prophet since he is most likely the one who split pushes the most and broodmother, for nature's prophet he has treants he can summon and he can tp anywhere on the map with his 2nd skill. keep up the good work :))
@@minako2306 thanks for the compliment! Of all the summoners i havent given Nature's Prophet or Chen a chance but im recording a "testing all the summoners" video (at least the ones that look interesting)
Actually I'm just around 1.5k mmr on Dota 2 wayback 2014 when I first play LoL (1.5k mmr is noob elo for dota player) but I manage to reach platinum for about 5months playing it, in my opinion it will be hard for people that play LoL first to migrate on Dota 2, but it will be easy for people to migrate from Dota 2 to LoL
plays first time dota... chooses meepo..
@@exdev Is Meepo the Teemo of Dota? XD (In league Teemo is the universally hated "fuck you if you choose this guy" champion)
@@Tumultulous Incredibly difficult to pilot. His ultimate splits the hero permanently into a bunch of clones for the rest of the game. You're basically controlling 2-5 heroes at the same time who all have seperate cooldown on their abilities. So to play him you gotta understand how to macro since he's able to play several parts of the map at the same time.
He's also very hard to pilot in teamfights because it's chaotic to keep track of 5 heroes at once.
You can always demo heroes in the Hero menu to test them out before you actually play them.
Meepo is locked on new accounts because he's one of the hardest heroes in the game. Like 10 times harder than the hardest League champs.
@@Tumultulousclosest to teemo is techies iirc. Teemo was designed by a dota guy thats why its so hated lmao
@@Tumultulous
No, it's like the hardest hero in the game.
Meepo is scary in the correct hands. His advantage is that his power spike quite early. So you need to snowball, split push to create space, denied your enemy map control by moving your heroes all over the maps. His net is very strong disable, and you can prevent your enemy from moving like eternity if your timing is on point.
His disadvantage is he is very hard especially when your enemy hit their power spike. Unless you're as skilled as W33ha, or Notail, Meepo late game is kinda useless. Because now, you reaaaaaally need to micro your split.
You can one tricked him, pretty fun hero.
Btw, play with friends who can give you small trick and tips.
OHHHHH I didnt know that!
guys, remember to leave a sub for someone who went unbias and friendly into dota, we need more people like him
@@JButterZJ Thats so sweet xD thanks!
You mean we need more people to farm?
I burst in laugh the moment I saw Meepo.
@@DrDev1L He is such a fun hero!
"Do I need to buy him?" bro got me dead
yeah average LoL player think dota 2 is full of microtransactions (which is tbh for skins mostly xD )
@@BobanX1 Well no. That's not actually what I was referring to. In league of legends the ingame currency is "Blue Essence" So I was basically asking if there were Rotating Heroes weekly like league, do I have to buy the Heroes I want to use with in game currency, or if they're all free"
@Tumultulous as you can see all heroes available you have everything at your disposal there is dota plus for improved quality of life impovements but its not necessary if you know how to play then you dont need that doesnt improve the gameplay if you want to play easy heroes u can categorize heroes by difficulty or you can do the all hero challenge and try every hero to see which one u play the best
This was really nice and positive. Most LoL players come with a "The game is wrong, not me" mentality.
It also seems like you had a helpful chat that saved some headaches.
i saw meepo and i knew it was over
@@rexie8569 IN MY DEFENSE... Dota wouldnt let me ;-;
F1 is default bound to your hero. Double tap to center the screen on your hero. F2 is your courier. Same thing. Helps keep track of where everything is. Courier will also auto deliver/path towards you and return without micro
@@Itsuydamshame good to know! Thanks~
@@Tumultulous F3 is the deliver button it will auto Your courier to deliver You items and get back to base
as for what destroying trees does, it can sometimes open up juke spots and shortcuts that weren't possible before. It's just one of those micro optimizations that barely matter in the lower bracket but can make or break a laning stage in pro play. That, and several heroes actually RELY on trees for their kit. Hoodwink, Nature's Prophet, Treant Protector, Monkey King and Timbersaw.
Windranger you forgot 😂
So the reason it asks if you may have played RTS games before is because the original Dota All Stars, which both Dota 2 and LoL are derived, was a custom game in Warcraft 3 which was a full on RTS game. So the mod had elements of RTS even if it wasn't one completely. Then when Dota 2 was made a lot of the RTS mechanics were carried over like box selecting and controlling multiple units, control groups, all that good stuff. Meepo is a good example of where you'd have to use that. Not recommended for new players, its high ceiling stuff.
Dota can be pretty overwhelming, especially when you have learned habits from League. But just take in what you can, pick heroes you think are cool and just have fun learning. The games get long when both sides are bad at ending the game, but in the long games you can get crazy overpowered!
Meepo's issue is not high ceiling, its incredibly high entrance point. Back in the day it was even worse, coz you could have individual travel boots on each of the clones and it was meta.
For a league playing dota, your gameplay was not bad. Much better than mine
Appreciated xD To be fair being used to any moba will probably speed the learning process of most mobas. But it's all about keeping it up! Good luck!
Btw, crystal maiden (the ice mage) is called rylai, and that's where rylais' scepter got its name from.
That's actually so cool. I can't believe I didn't connect the two. I must've missed the name xD
Yeah. Since both guinsoo and icefrog helped the community build dota all star
Also she's the goat
this is wholesome as a Dota player I''ve grown addicted to these types of videos
I'm not a pro, nor a high ranked player, I'm just glad, many people playing this game to learn nowadays.
I'm a new player too, been playing for a week now. I recommend playing Turbo, it's right under All Pick and it's a gam mode with double xp and gold gain, it speeds everything up and just feels much better for a quick game when you don't have time(around 20 min game)
Thats a horrible idea for starters in my opinion. Dota is not designed for turbo, it is made for players who dont want to learn the game and just have fun. It has its place, but its honestly a very bad idea for anew player to start their journey
moral of the story : never skipped tutorials
Moral of the story: never skip English class
@@Octarinecore-00 probably tuff guy keyboard warrior with only English on his belt :) remember...English has
the poorest lexicon in all languages...let that sink in :)
@@rises889 ok. Come on sink. Come in.
Tutorials r for pussies. We learn as we play
@@rises889 im convinced people shout "i don't know what it's doing" for youtube/twitch acting, you can read the ability any moment, yet you keep shouting idk what its doing
As a dota player, seeing you want to pick meepo lit a fire in my soul 😂😂. Also you can press f3 to get items from the courier in 1 tap. Good content!
@@NotAGamer-69-f2p Any Champion/Hero with a shovel is the one to be in my book xD
I have 12 years playing dota and more than 15k hours... Even with that experience I will never play meepo. It is too complex for me
Hahaha no worries, I have about 12 years in League and i'll never touch super complex champs like Leblanc or Zed. (That didn't stop me from jumping onto Meepo right away.)
@@Tumultulous The complex hero is lol is like baby hero in dota 2
You should play invoker, he's really easy🥰@@Tumultulous
I alway love seeing new people playing dota 2
The have different Shop UI selected; on the top it allows you to chose how easy or complete you wanna see it
@@GearDiego23 ive been running down the list of summoners, but Meepo is so fun im trying to get good at him lol
if you want something like Yorick (mainly for split pushing), there's a lot in DOTA 2. If you want high damage hero that excels in Jungling, there's Nature's Prophet, Lycan, Beastmaster, Lone Druid and... I think that's it. I don't recommend Meepo since as others had said, they're a pain in the ass. If you want to create your own mob, then use Chen with an item called Helm of the Dominator.
I've played Chen recently. I'm not looking forward to making that video ;-;
Wraith King is the most similiar to yorick I would say, I don't count him as a summoner, but then again, there are no real summoners in league sadly.
Surprisingly good content for such a small channel. Clicked on the reddit link and ended up watching the whole thing. Meepo is generally considered the most difficult hero in the game due to his high skill floor and cap. Based on your description though (splitpush + summons) there is a lot of Dota heroes you would love. Lycan, Nature's Prophet, Lone Druid, Beastmaster, Chen, Enchantress, Enigma, all spring to mind. I love both games but I would say League is more action oriented and Dota is more based on strategy and knowledge. I hope you keep playing and posting as you try the game.
@@jellyboudoirjr.1235 Thanks for letting me know about the reddit post workin! And most of all thanks for the compliment! Means a lot! Maybe ill do a "ranking summoners on difficulty to learn" type video. Ill def screenshot this lidt to see who i like best
Great comment
Wow.. its not so often i laugh out loud.. but i had to pause at 2:33 xD
lol just started watching and he wants to play Meepo as his first hero, such giant balls.
@@kenpachizaza1179 My balls were shrunken by Dota. They wont let me ;-; A lotta people seem to be commenting about Meepo maybe i should keep playing until I get to play him lol
@@Tumultulous i suggest the page where you find all those turorials just go to the very last one it's a community made tutorial. Should be both good content as well as give you all you need to know to really understand the diffs between lol and dota. It was made with love.
@@Tumultulousif you have experience with rts games like StarCraft he isn’t as hard, but if you’re used to one hero at a time be sure to practice some fundamentals and definitely use the demo often, Dota has a great practice mode and is very configurable
@@Tumultulous Meepo requires playing and micro 5 heroes at once, the only thing similiar to Yorick in him is that he also holds a shovel
@@Tumultulousmeepo is like playing shaco with 5 clones that can skill xd
Seems like you have a few videos in dota for me to catch up on. I hope youre enjoying it! Its a hard game to learn and the comnunity can be brutal, but it's so rewarding when everything works out. Ive never played league but it seems like a fun game. Theres space for both! I also have fun in Smite too ngl
@@mcgoo721 Yeahhh you get it. There's space for em all! Ive been having a great time with DOTA
One thing is when you're on hero selection, when you were trying to find meepo on your first game, you can just type their names, and their portrait will glow, helps navigating heroes that way
I'm like 2 months late but as a Dota 2 nerd: the reason it says RTS game is because initially Dota 1 was a mod in warcraft 3, a RTS. When Valve hired Icefrog, the main developer associated with Dota, to develop Dota 2: they initially branded it as an Action Real Time Strategy game. League of legends, and RIOT Games by extension, popularized the term MOBA which is why most games nowadays use that term.
Whereas dota went by the term ARTS for a while during its early life span. That has since changed due to the term MOBA becoming so ubiquitous with the genre / style of game, but that's what it used to be like before.
> Starting playing Dota.
> Choice to ignore the tutorial.
> During matchs "Wtf is that?" to something that has a tutorial about.
Hahahahha Welcome to Dota dude. Hope you like it!
Dude you had me shouting like the guy in Office saying “NOOOO” when I saw you pick meepo 😂
Jotaro: YES YES YES YES YES
If the match duration is what's killing it for you, there is a Turbo game mode. It essentially gives everyone a huge XP and gold boost, so matches go much faster. It's a completely different meta from regular games because of it though, so a lot of the more advanced tips you may get for timings, farming patterns and map movement won't really apply
28:20 Tumultulous: "I have been blocked in by MINIONS!!!"
Me: "YOU HAVE PHASE BOOTS!! YOU JUST DID A TUTORIAL ABOUT IT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BLINK RANGE" 🤣💀
Tutoriaaaaaal~? No Idea what you're talking about~ OH YEAH I get'cha now. I just LOVE her in Udnertale!
Reminder to all my League players out there. In DOTA you defend the tower, not the other way around.
Also you can click on any hero to check his abilities.
Basically Q is the go home button for your COURIER.
Good game! Jakiro is a crazy strong support. best way to use his skills is to cast ult and ice path to freeze players in the ult. then cast Q and E to slow their movement. Some items strengthen your skills. Also since its an intelligence hero, check for items that increase mana regen coz you'll be casting spells quite a lot
26:50 huskar and terrorblade are heroes that want to be low health in fights (assuming there is no hard counter to that gameplay) because their abilities benefit more if they are lower health (huskar gets more attack speed and health regen the lower his health is and terrorblade can switch his health % with yours)
its so cool as an also newish player seeing somebody playing for the first time. you wanna scream "JUST RIGHT CLICK THE ITEM YOU ******" but have to remember how we were even more lost when first playing.
Regarding why the tutorial asked if you have played RTS games before is because in dota, you can manually control and pilot units you summoned and even use the spells of said unit/summon(if they have any) heroes like Meepo, Arc Warden, Beastmaster, Nature's Prophet, Lycan, Lone Druid, some of their summons and clones have spells and some don't, haven't played league in a while but if I recalled correctly, only Shaco can move around his clone by constantly pressing R(?), and Yorick too with his spells to control the movements of his mist walkers, even then the controls are limited to movement as you can't issue a manual attack for the clone or the mist walkers(kinda), so hope that clears up!
Also, you made the right choice picking Wraith King! He's very beginner friendly and very similar to Yorick as hes quite tanky as well and he's one of the few "summon" heroes whose units can't be controlled, so he's very easy to use.
It's funny you went for one of the hardest hero's to play as a new player
Meepo for the first ever hero... Insane
@@blackburnhouse the thing about insanity....
Advice to every new dota 2 player dont pick meepo invoker or any of the spirit heros as ur first hero...
OR! Choose that one Hero and play them nonstop forgoing all other heroes until you become a god
@@Tumultulous well given the fact the you already played one MOBA you can do that but every hero has its counter so i suggest played more than one hero so you can actually experience the game in a different way
You can change your mini map side through the options most people change side of their mini map to left side coz its more comfortable that way...and always remember to do tutorials & demo before trying out any hero the game also have option of bots mode in easy to difficulty mode...Good luck learning this accursed game though XD.
The reason why the shop UI is so small is because you're supposed to buy items while you're playing, so it can't cover the entire screen like in League or Smite.
Here is some trick. Try your hero at demo, try to focus what those skills can do and synergize with other active item> Then play against bot just to test the water> if you're confident, then play it against human.
Here is some basic
Pos 5(hard support): get the least farm. Your roles is to babysit your carry by harrasing your enemy, creep pulling, ward to prevent gank. During teamfight, your roles is to survive as long as you can and ensure that you activate all your skill. Jakiro is a great pos 5. E is such a great harrasing tools and ice path is like the best at saving your carry
Pos 4(soft support): you need to farm for support item, normally like mekansm, arcane boots, drum of endurance. Pos 4 normally will take the lane after your carry go to jungle. Pos 4 reserve to support that can farm effectively. Like Enigma. Enigma roles is like jungler in Lol. You show yourself on the map after you got blink.
Pos 3(initiator/tank): Choose your target carefully, disrupt them, and take damage. Normally resever to hero that can stun aoe. Sand king, eathshaker for example. You really need to scale, but you also will die a lot. So, start ganking after you buy some item to reduce loss.
Pos 2(semi carry): Win mid, get item, help other lanes by ganking. It's the hero that can control the tempo of the game like Queen Of Pain. Buy big item, gank the enemy carry.
Pos 1(carry): basically a hitter that have the highest DPS. Farm until you get your power spike, the, join the war, then farm again. Need very good farming skill but since you come from Lol, I think you definitely have the skill. Reseve to DPS hero like Wraith King, Drow Ranger, Sniper. easy to play hero but become hard due to you being the main target of your enemy.
Have fun. Take your time. And use your mute button if you need to
Hahaha xD i know about the demo, i just chose not to do it. Flows better in the video. Will read the rest in a bit!
@@gungrave10 alright thanks for letting me know this info!
@@TumultulousNo problem. Have fun! Dota have a lot of mode, ability draft for example, that is really fun. So try them out later. Oh also, never play ranked until you're ready to handle the pressure.
That video is insanely good for all dota players who sees someone playing like that and starting to flame them, calling dumb, reporting and ect. out of ranked matched
Like yeah, can you believe it, dota still has new players and due to the lack of really good ingame tutorials its hard for them, be more poite ffs, or dota will die much faster
P.s. check info about game roles (1-5 positions), i dunno is LoL rellevant to this
I'd say Dota has PROBABLY good tutorials. I'm just not fond of how it's laid out. And yeah Positions 1-5 in League terms are "Jungle, Top, Mid, Bot, Support"
Based take, moba players have the brains of children, they throw tantrums in non-ranked matches like it matters. They need real lives tbh.
I was about to lose my mind when I saw meepo, thank god you chose jakiro at the last second. By the interaction you had with the courier(you're controlling 2 units), it'd have been way too overwhelming with meepo.(6 units)
@@practic4l349 Meepo was fun!
"I only have 3 ablities?"
oh my sweet summer child
I meant ACTIVE abilities xD
but yes I was still confused lol
*looking champs interlude* "I think I'm going to probably try Meepo"
Oh well that escalated quickly hahahah!!!
Btw unless you want to move the courier to a specific spot (wich is rarely something) you can play the whole game without ever selecting it. The buttons at the corner of the screen (or their hotkeys) are more than enough to do whatever you want with the courier. You can even right-click the send button to send it to the secret shop.
You can select allies or enemy heroes to check what they do and their skills. Specially usefull while you're dead.
I seen you have learned a lot in the span pf this video, thanks to chat I assume. Like the use of quick-buy and such.
A nice tip for Meepo: his Ult doesn't have any active so you can assign anything in its hotkey. Like "select next controled unit", so you can iterate between the different Meepos quickly. This worked really well for me but for you TAB may work better for that.
Good to have you! This was an amazing trip and experience!
You did better than nemesis. Reading skills and Items
Thanks! .... Who is Nemesis?
@@Tumultulous one of the best LoL pro players?
31:20 btw if you used your wand here you probably would have enough mana for your Ult. On a sidenote if you have mana problems to use your ult you can buy Aghanim's Shard so it doesn't cost mana.
It seems to me that the map appeared on the right for you because you initially said that you had already played LOL, in dota we play with the map in the left side
I also place my map on the right hand side. Muscle memory from league, but I also find that when playing on the Dire side it gives you better visibility of the lower left.
You were so frustrated about the shop when the item was literally lit up for you if you just took a second to look 😂
Welcome to Dota 2 where you must find order in chaos
pro tip you can click on the hero portrait on the top (beside the timer) to see their skill/inventory, and also as a target for point target skill/item
Also when you die you can expand the death summary on the right side, telling what and who the damages and cc come from (usually left for most dota players because the default map is on the left)
@@manoi8 Thanks for the tips! Since this vid is doing well maybe ill do a part 2 lol
I love watching League players discover all the mechanics that give the game so much depth, that LOL doesn't have. Tower aggro manipulation, denying creeps, couriers, creep pulling and stacking, on and on i could go. League is baby's first Dota game, and that's fine. It's much more popular because it's infinitely easier to play and do well. Dota just shits on you and laughs if you suck, no mercy.
Also, maybe do the tutorials. You kept becoming frustrated that you didn't know how the basic stuff worked, which the tutorials would help. You can change your settings so that when you TP or anything the camera automatically centers your hero on the screen.
I would LOVE to do A tutorial. But the tutorials in general have been aggravating even when done right. They even crashed my game a couple times. I just dont have it in me to commit to that xD maybe if it were one long tutorial
"i think I'm gonna try meepo"💀💀
hey you can press the portal scroll to teleport whatever available towers.... i think thqts what recall you mention
Wrath knight minion you spawn them and after that they follow your stun
20:58 ah yes two boots, one for each foot
closest champ to yorick is nature prophet
@@TheShafara boy do i have a disappointing video for you!
2:29 I FUCKING YELLED *NO!* WHEN HE CONTEMPLATED MEEPO
Complains how expensive everything is, then continues to invest into 2 addinional TPs while sitting on 5 already xDDD some people are buying BitCoin, while this guy is buying Dota-TPs
@@athrondiralandriel1577 aint complaining. Just wasnt used to the prices back then
My guy, if you wanna learn dota learn how to pick lane first, laning phases is important, if you're not focusing on laning you'll lose the game, and of course, learn to use your role, if you're a support, help your carry by stacking camps, and giving them vision to the lane, also you need to participate on every team-fights/ganking. You will get to the point that you will learn how to do the basic stuff, also, you need to watch the timing of your teammates, if you know the situation is not very good, just try to play it out and stay positive.
If you like yorick gameplay of just staying on a lane and push it like crazy, try broodmother. She is yorick on steriods.
Brood is a very thematic spider character. She likes to place webs in an area, like along a lane and surrounding jungle, and exert so much pressure by pushing, farming camps or just simply having kill threat and deny the area from the enemy. Her webs increases her hp regen and movement speed, but more importantly, grants her free movement: she can walk over any terrain and trees like they dont exist.
Like yorick, she has summons too. She can spawn and have up to 24 spiderlings at a given time. But you can also micro each spiderling independent with each other.
@@juohan say less!
@@Tumultulous my bad. TLDR Broodmother is great at pushing a lane like yorick. Her gimmick is having the most amount of summons in the game and free movement in her webs.
@@Tumultulous Just don't pick Broodmother against an Earthshaker. Look up Earthshaker's ultimate and you will know why.
Even league players are doing better dota content than dota players
Loved your video. Funny thing, when I first played league I was as surprised as you but for the opposite stuff. Flash is so short? And has a 5min cd?!!
@@ggfargo The league map is too small xD itd break the game to be able to tp so far xD
@@ggfargo thanks for the compliment btw!
46:15 what's with your timeline youtube bro 😂, good content
AYE! MICHAEL REEVES IS A NATIONAL TREASURE! But yeah thanks :D
Hey man good content overall. Keep at it you'll make it
Thanks! Took a while to edit this bish
@@Tumultulous more power to you man
You do not want the shop to be bigger, multi tasking is a very big part of dota, usually you shop if you know you are gonna die since dying decreases your gold
Meepo 🤣 after almost 6K hours into Dota I have played like 3-4 matches with it max, that one hero is just not my thing
try nature's prophet or broodmother. If you want to be more active nature's prophet is your pick. While if you want to play on the same lane the whole game and eat away at their towers then broodmother is your hero
This is the 1st comment I saw about Broodmother that made me wanna play her lol
It says "i've played RTS games" instead of "I've played moba games" because dota have A LOT of RTS elements unlike League, a lot of heroes have summons or even permanent aditional units that you have to control while you play the hero.
You should really play all the tutorials, dota has been adding a lot of mechanics over the years and there are so many that all tutorials seem important tbh
@@b4sh936 Im a "Learn on the go" typa guy. Ill run the marathon without training, I may be slow n stumble but ill have fun gettin there xD
You need to be Mozart to play Meepo or Invoker
Why can he not read? Right click was clearly stated, he bought TP when it was clear that he had 6 of them already?
@@asmodean7239 Reading is fo bishes
@@Tumultulousokay😂
as a new player that has 30h the right click IS hella weird
AHHHH reminds me of my 18 hours of Dota 2
Ya stopped at 18 hours?
Dude, i choked whe you choose meepo lmao
@@Cpcp9696 I choked not being able to PLAY Meepo lol
"League of Legends Player Tries Dota 2 For The First Time"
2 minutes into the game: "I think I'm going to try Meepo"
Lol my dude, I literally spit out my drink when hearing it
when i saw that meepo pick i just laughed :D that was so funny. howto ruin your experience day 1 :D cool video, nice that you tried dota out
@@JButterZJ Ill try out any hero/champ with a shovel
surprisingly, buying two pairs of boots isn't that bad hahah, I remember doing The greaves and drum combo back when
I laughed like crazy when he picked meepo 😂
You might like my Broodmother video thumbnail then lol
When you skip the tutorial in Dota 2, you're missing out on crucial foundational knowledge that can greatly impact your gameplay as a beginner.
I'll get over it eventually
“I believe every game is winnable” - buys second boots immediately xd
@@WindOverTheVoid Gotta go fast!
@@Tumultulous"I got 2 feet, it's only logical"
HAHAHA HE BUILT DIF NOT DOING THE TUTORIAL
I play dota2 and LoL. Every other day. Makes me feel good someone is trying tho.😁
Btw if you're looking for a Yorick type in dota2 Nature's Prophet is the closest thing. Enjoy playing 😁
Nature's Prophet has been SO hard to play lol xD I think Wraith King is Closer to Him thematically at least
When he said something splitpushing that summons i thought he would choose furion, but...
Meepo? Oh boy will he have a rough time...
@@lowlight1063 it was moderately rough xD
"I played RTS games"
Oh sweet summer child.
why did league player never play tutorial in dota 2
I did, just not all of them. Just too many + I didn't know which were more essential than the other. Personally I think I COULD'VE done them all if it were formatted easier on the eyes. Like maybe instead of 50 2 minutes tutorials maybe like 5 10 minute tutorials. Just feels like too much. Luckily I had some viewers to let me know which ones were more worthwhile. But I only covered 1 or 2 tutorials in the video but on stream i probably did about 15ish
i wanna duo with someone who is new to dota 2!!! lmaooo
I literally screaming when you choosing Meepo. You should try Blink dagger + aether lense + telescope (tier 4 token), you can go to the moon with that item combination...LOL
Mwhahahaha >:D
Meepo is the most dificult hero in dota haha.
I find it funny how you said Jakiro's Ult was not as useful 😅.
Keep at it bro snd you'll soon see the value of a perfectly placed Macropyre followed up by or preceded by the ice path!
If you would like summons, play Natures Prophet, lone druid, beastmaster and even broodmother maybe. Have fun!
@@Mystikbvsn Hahaha xD I just meant in the moment. I get the synergy with his CC or teamfights. But appreciate the tips! Ill definitely try out those heroes :D
I laughed so hard in this video...😂😂😂 All I can say is follow the tutorial before playing 😉 (the meepo though 😂)
Never saw a single video but loved him immediately haha, keep playing the game bud!! 🥹
Hahaha Thank you so much!
My guy got miss leaded soo bad lol
If your looking for yorick like champ go for chaos knight, phantom lancer, or Naga siren.
i don't know if anyone told you that, but closest champ for yorick would be nature's prophet. Great for split-pushing
uhhhh my don't look at my video on him xD you will be disappointed
you know you have a league brain when buying an item is an issue in dota
Man welcome to the real original moba.
commend also passive agrresive telling you bad.
With love, and sympathy, this was hard to watch. I’m a dota player who came from league too. If you are gonna play more you should definitely do the tutorials or watch videos on it or both. It’s way more complicated than league
I totally get that Dota is tougher, but as i said in many other comments and i'll say it forever, DOTA's tutorial system sucks ass xD I'm good with learning through gameplay
@@Tumultulous game tutorials suck in general 😂 BSJ and GameLeap are the two channels I watch the most for coaching style advice as a core and for support I like quixotics or however it’s spelled. They are all great channels and have made me way better
I love your attitude. More please.
@@Mecanotech you got catching up to do xD but AM making more!
@@Tumultulous On it already, currently watching your second video 'favorites of dota'
Good video love to see u play some more
@@nonocheng3043 If you'd like I JUST uploaded a new video xD
My guy i recommend phantom lancer, sven and phantom assassin who are the most basic carries also anti mage since he can block spells and blink so you don't need blink daggers also he burns mana everytime he attacks someone (going for supports usually is key to teamfights) if you like more summons play chen and get helm dominator since his abilities can get neutral creeps as his own (pets) and even ancients (like those dragons that attacked you even though you did nothing) or nature's prophet since he is most likely the one who split pushes the most and broodmother, for nature's prophet he has treants he can summon and he can tp anywhere on the map with his 2nd skill. keep up the good work :))
@@minako2306 thanks for the compliment! Of all the summoners i havent given Nature's Prophet or Chen a chance but im recording a "testing all the summoners" video (at least the ones that look interesting)
@@Tumultulous Looking forward to it!
@@Tumultulous or just play pos5 or pos4, you may enjoy those 2 roles
This guy is funny deserved sub
Actually I'm just around 1.5k mmr on Dota 2 wayback 2014 when I first play LoL (1.5k mmr is noob elo for dota player) but I manage to reach platinum for about 5months playing it, in my opinion it will be hard for people that play LoL first to migrate on Dota 2, but it will be easy for people to migrate from Dota 2 to LoL
This is very frustrating to watch at the beginning :D I now understand how some players think when playing for the first time :D
Hope you enjoyed after the beginning xD
As a herald this hurts to watch
As a newbie, this hurt to make